Intel’s RYZEN-KILLER - Core i7 8700K
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- It's Intel's turn to disrupt the mainstream market with SIX CORE Core i5 and Core i7 CPUs... But can they disrupt like Ryzen?
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I downloaded 3 cores from internet. Now i have 7core i7 2600. Downloading 16GB RAM atm. Its gonna be one hell of a PC
😂😂😂
Ahaha i almost fell for a website claiming to let you download RAM
Download 4 rtx titans
Man dude shouldve downloaded 12 cores
I gotta download more internet first...lol
Intel is finally making minor technological advancements? Thanks, AMD.
JustForTheTunes this is good now more competition better for consumer and more options but the fanboys of bpth groups are the problem
I agree that competition is better for consumer, that's why I'm applauding AMD. Their Ryzen lineup has really lit a fire under Intel's ass, as can be seen by their weird kaby lake x lineup, and now their move on coffelake to bring out higher core counts. I'm not a fanboy of either group (my gaming laptop has a 7700hq, and my desktop back at home has a 6600k.) But in this case, it's AMDs huge consumer-friendly advance that's forcing Intel to do the same, so fanboyism aside you have to thank AMD for bringing competition back. Maybe Intel will finally have something really special with Cannonlake, which is what I'm looking forward to in the next year or so.
JustForTheTunes true and i really hate fanboys they make me die inside
Normal Person, I definitely understand where you're coming from. I don't mind it in that the more vocal support each side has the stronger the community/consumer pressure for competition is under both AMD's and Intel's (and even Nvidia's) asses. But it can definitely get out of hand. Nothing like console fanboy wars, though, so it could be worse:P
For real. We (as consumers) win when there is competition. The comments make it quite clear who paid attention in economics class.
1:03 When you realised that the puns was too cheesy
What are you even doing here? lmao
Deoxide hi how to initial d guy
You can't drift a six core car!
Why tf are are you here?
shouldnt you be making a collab with purpleguy?
Deoxide you can see the regret in her face
Watching Linus eat salt was worth everything this channel has done.
Verified and now comments what
4 years LOL
That subtle Covfefe Lake joke at 8:27 doe
ZeronXepher
Donnie Trump for life.
was it Linus or someone else editing the slides? This may be a joke for more than just us...
I saw that too xD
Fuck you and Trump.
seeing zeron xepher in here feels wrong somehow...
The i5 2500K launched at $216 and the i7 2600K came in at about $319, and the dollar is stronger than in 2011, these prices are getting a bit cheeky
oof
Sooo in one video LTT got sponsored by Dollar shave, intel and tunnel bear... :O
its like how your comment shows 6 hour ago when the video is only a minutes ago
Intel?
that was almost a coherent thought.
Gakwaya David haha yeah wtf
Wacow CLY he hacked yt 😄
Still running my 8700k to this day
I’ll stick with my 7700k, it’s looking like next time I upgrade AMD will be getting my money
@@EX7RUD1CON So, did you ? What are the news ?
That's the thinnest crap of coffee I've ever seen. Looks more like weak tea. Kinda fitting a lackluster CPU, though.
Samsonite Dove my tea is stronger than that shit!
At first i was like: "What they released tea-lake?" but then he said coffee-lake and i was like damn.
how is the cpu lackluster
Sic Semper Beats I don’t have all the time in the world to explain watch this video and skip to the cpu part th-cam.com/video/Ij95GtRg07g/w-d-xo.html
Probably to not stain the white sofa.
Am I the only one who noticed "Covfefe Lake" at 8:18 ???????
Robinblitz good catch
Nope
now i saw it
Nice catch! xD
Very nice catch ^^
Linus: “You know, salt can taste good sometimes.”
Also Linus: Almost throwing up after putting salt in his mouth.
Covfefe lake!!!!
Who did this???
8:32
JigglyDo even tho we will never be sure, I choose to believe it was Nicky V from the other side. Oh God I miss him so much. (Cries like a baby)
Its still covfefe!!!
8:20
Erik MetalyRock me too
What kind of weak ass coffee is that? Is it coffee for babies? Who drinks coffee you can see through?
Daniel Lecoq I think that was tea
The kind of coffee that was used for a gag...
WalrusEmpire it's definitely coffee
*Agree! if i can see the bottom of the glass(cup) It's NOT a coffee! Here in Europe we drink very dark black coffee. Perfect 60-90ml with very strong flavor!*
the ppl of A M E R I K A
The face of freedom 1:03
Just finished my Intel i7 8700K build, and also made a video about it, you know where to find it ;).
I must say that I really like the performance of this processor. I combined it with the Asus Maximus X and overclocked it to 5.2 GHZ.
I kinda feel bad for ya mate
@@sgcs 8700k is a beast still. Best cpu to get at the time by miles
@@CaptainCanadaTV yeah, but you can get that same performance or better as an i5 now
@@sgcs Yes. But most people who got the 8700k were coming from 4 core CPU’s and 4 threads. You couldn’t wait 2 years to get an i5 equivalent.
@@sgcs stupid he bought it 2 yrs ago
That coffee is so watery, homeopaths could use it as medicine!
Good to see that there is finally some decent competition in the CPU market for gamers.
ARM is also slowly entering the game, with their most powerful designs to be as good as laptop CPUs.
I have a feeling it's going to be a while until arm breaks into the desktop market. For one, Windows and the majority of the programs for windows are only compiled for x86 processors. There's a reason why arm can't get into the desktop market when it dominates in the smartphone market.
Microsoft got windows running on arm using emulation.Its sooner than you think.
Yes, but... emulation
@suicidal you*
ARM will never enter the desktop market, it's a RISC based design, meaning it has lower IPC for lower power consumption. This makes it pretty bad for, as you're sacrificing performance for power, and power isn't much of an issue when your desktop is always plugged in.
Straight to the point.
I was only looking to the i5 - 7500 chip,
Because that's what I have,
And it sure didn't disappoint me.
Yeah, but in price/performance they not overclock, so it take main reason why R5 1600 is so good.
ShishiR I have the i5-7600 and I'm also quite happy with it
I have that too, very happy to see it almost always near the top for gaming!
Harry Messenger I play fallout 4, with that CPU , and Frame Doesn't Drop even when i fire 12 nukes ( Fatboy )
Yeah I was pretty surprised he was reviewing a i5 8400 (as I've a i5 6400 which is similar older brother.) The performance per dollar on that line is just amazing. (specially when paired with a relatively powerfull and budget friendly GTX1060.)
I still have one in my current rig. And I love it. This cpu was the only time overclocking wasn’t overrated.
If you're gonna hit Vega for power consumption, then skip over mentioning that Ryzen's power consumption is like HALF of the 8700k's people are going to keep thinking you're in bed with Intel. Just count on it.
Chandler Phelps jayztwocents said the 8700K can heat your whole house and higher your power bill.
Is he not long time ago? That's why he have to make explanatory video everytime he Is bashing Intel, 8700k 90watts more under load than last gen, and he didn't bat an eye!!
AD Gladium bullshit, 8700 was under Stock synthetic load and still was double!
Because its not the equivalent of a 1600x when its multi-thread performance is comparable, if not better than even an 1800x, at a much lower price point, and its single-core performance is incredibly better? Hurr durr same amount of cores so must be equivalent.
+WarmSoftKitty, this video has its power consumption nearly as high as a 1950x...
So glad i've invested in a ryzen 5 1600. Cool 'n quiet, does everything I want
It handle pretty well too! I mostly did Render + Gaming.
Hexacore ftw
planning to get 1600x. is spending more worth it? or would 1600 do?
1600X is literally an overclocked of 1600.
Better get 1700 for more cores instead
More Water than Coffee
Tobse1556
KEURIG = 100% Canadian! Need that?
lucas rem okey it's like Canadian Beer, btw i am from Germany. 😉
Tobse1556
Alles klar, die Senseo Kaffeemaschine, die Deutsche KEURIG maschine. Liebe Löslicher Kaffee? Liebe wasserich?
(Amsterdam)
There's always more water than coffee in coffee. Didn't know that? ;)
whos watching this in 2024
Yup
Ya got me
I got one this thing looks like it's still goated
@@eddie...2005 Yep. I have the laptop version of the same silicon, the 8750H, and it's served me very well for the last 5.5 years. Finally building a desktop PC now and getting an ultrabook for travel, but this thing is going to live on as my little storage server at home
Right here
16 PCIE Lanes? Wut?
"Would sir like a gaming graphics card or an M.2 drive?"
Thats CPU lanes + 24 lanes from the chipset.
8 lanes is enough for gaming, I looked it up because I was thinking exaktly the same
Chipset also delivers a couple of lanes, so you´re good to go.
Intel ark say max pci-e lane is 16.
CPU 16 lanes + chipset 24 lanes
Can’t wait to see what Linus does for Cannon Lake for the intro.
MIND NOVA US Civil War Era Cannons in a dry lake bed
thats not coffee thats tea.. i can see trough it
It's a tea trough
You can defenatley see trough coffee
karma police It is coffee but they didn't put a lot of coffee powder
Nick Karsten you can't
very trough
I'm just happy to see real competition from both sides again, it's been too long. Intel stepped up their game thanks to AMD being taken seriously again. This is great for all of us.
jw71291 competition is good in business. One reason I hate huge corporations.
Facts and stuff no its not are you insane?
The Pondering Critic I meant it's good for the customers, so as a customer I like seeing competition.
It's also good for businesses as it gives them a better direction for where they're going. "What do we do next? One-up the other guys." Businesses that have no direct (or serious) competition often assume what people want, and make horrible mistakes in doing so.
$359 RCP, not MSRP. You can expect the price for the 8700k to be $359 each if you buy 1000 of them.
Matthew Cole theres no way in hell the chips will sell at MSRP.. I'm seeing them at 430$ here
I just ordered the ryzen 1600.
it's a good cpu, just build ryzen 1600 1 month ago with mobo Asrock AB350 Pro 4, best price to performance, OC it to 3.6GHz
ziljin the Ryzen 5 1600 and Pentium G4560 are the best value CPUs of the past five years.
Suckes to be you
Your beard looks horrible
That's what I use at 4k and streaming best CPU on the market for gamers to be honest
Damn that looks like a weak coffee!
looks like tea ^^
Tea is better than coffee anyways.
0:57 "Like the kind of cpu we're reviewing" Then picks up a motherboard!
8:23 Covfefe lake, saw it here first
Was looking for this comment
Lmfaoooo
Edward Grant it's been going on for a while on sites like 4chan
Coffe leak
shit i am late
Coffee > Kaby, what even is a Kaby anyway?
Kaby lake is an abortion. Skylake is the Alcoholic granddaddy
Just Being Socially Awkward because it sucks
You think that's weird, imagine a "cannon lake"...
Racist baby.
Kaby Lake is an actual lake up in Canada. It's twice the size of Lake Tahoe.
I like how she took the time to change her clothes before bringing him the coffee. Somewhere out there is the untold story of that mug's amazing BTS journey.
Zeus Legion I am astounded how few comments are down here about the shirt change :O
Back in June, weren't you dramatically walking through the rain, folding your arms, and chastising Intel for "knee-jerk reactions," and "half desperate attempts to appeal to enthusiasts," and their anti-consumer socket abandoning? You directly called out Kaby Lake X for just taking existing Kaby Lake processors and stapling them on to socket 2066, which was already a retooling of Skylake. So they did the exact same thing with slightly better results 6 months later with Coffee Lake and all of a sudden you are back on Intel's jock?
We aren't witnessing technology advancing, we are witnessing corporate posturing and strategic releases of products to no one's benefit other than Intel. This i7-8700K sat below average if not middle of the road in almost all the benchmarks you tossed up, which were unsurprisingly missing the 1800X. Even when the 1950X had the best ratings in some of the benchmarks, you still visually ranked it lower than the i9-7900X. Then you brush over the thing being 30-40° hotter and its higher power consumption. Come on man, people count on you for these reviews... You gave a more unbiased plug to Five Dollar Shave Club.
It's almost as if when Intel called you in, they reminded you that your channel exists because of all that sponsored hardware they provide and heavily suggested that if you kept talking shit you'd be blackballed into oblivion. Surprised they let you wear your own shirt and not one of theirs.
Jason, You nailed it with your commentary. You took us back in time and pointed out everything that we are thinking about from watching Linus's previous videos. Kudos for the facts, I agree the videos are getting a little more cheesy biased based to suit a narrative for another video.
we must rise this comment.
Kaby Lake X didn't perform, and was out of the release cycle for Intel, clearly a knee-jerk reaction to Ryzen.
Coffee Lake does perform since it's new silicon, we actually got a bump in cores, and was a regular release from Intel, with no X299 BS.
Coffee Lake has been in development for probably two years, it is't just a rehash of a precedent architecture like Kaby Lake X was.
English?
You nailed it!
These benchmarks don't line up at all with Digital Foundry's... Wtf is going on here? What memory timings are you guys using?
See gamers nexus video, there are problems with firmware right now causing reviewers to have a 20% spread in results
Take a look at AdoredTV's vid. It appears that Linus was testing an overclocked intel CPU
They rigged results to make Intel look better, had OC'd CPUs vs non-OC'd Ryzen CPUs Link explains it across multiple tech reviewers: th-cam.com/video/O98qP-FsIWo/w-d-xo.html
Here is the reason:
m.th-cam.com/video/O98qP-FsIWo/w-d-xo.html
They call it deception - that is when somebody is bought or does a poor job as a reviewer...
People have found out why. Linus was running a 4.7Ghz overclock on the 8700k and calling it stock, lmao. You can't make this shit up!
7700k 100w during load...8700k 200w ?!?!?!?!??!
Funny how people forget that the first i7s ran as high 130 TDP. My i7 940 is one of those, and I'm still running it now after 7 years in my upgraded Dell system. I can only imagine how much power it must draw from the wall when running at full load. Doesn't seem to put a dent in it's performance, or cost me so much I can't use it. ;)
Only intel can manage to make a 6 core CPU run as hot and consume as much power as a 16 core threadripper... If we really want to stop global warming the paris climate agreement is useless, what we need to do is destroy all the intel CPUs.
Were you not listening and/or watching? The overclocked TDP and temps were lower than stock, Linus pointed out that it may be a firmware bug since that's completely stupid. See (or hear) 7:12
Shintel runs like chernobyl
Uh, 99% of PCs aren't even pulling 1kW from the wall... guess how much power an electric kettle pulls? More than 1kW.
Unless your PC is pegged at full output most of the day, it's not worth worrying about. Seriously, taking better care of turning the lights in rooms you aren't in will save you more money than buying a CPU based on TDP.
Well... for gamers, stick with your 4th gens for now. I still own the 4790k, 32GB RAM, gtx 970 gpu.
I can't even imagine why I'd change that CPU now.
I render in Premier pro cc, while I do something else.
My Nvidia experience:
GAME OPTIMIZATION: READY.
GAMESTREAM: READY
IN-GAME OVERLAY: READY
VIRTUAL REALITY: READY
Intel, see you 2019.
Yeah I OC my 4790k to 4.8ghz. 32gb ram, 980ti. No need to ever ugprade.
I have i3 4370 do u think i d be better off buying a used i7 4790k for the next 3-4 years?this is what i came up with but its a 2014 cpu...
+4790K, 32 GB RAM, MSI GTX 1080 SEA HAWK EK X SLI 2X, and it kicks ass. Why throw away a good system?
Why do you spend so much money on gpu though? Do u think that i3 4170 is enough for gaming?i want to buy 4790k new but it is more expensive here than last gen models...
vfddcv no dude get i5 8400 or ryzen will last you longer and they're just newer :)
8:20 "Covfefe Lake Value" lol
lmao
Hello
But can it run dank memes in 360p?
Why is the 7700k beating the 8700k in all the gaming bench marks?
OWL higher clocks and lack of multithread optimisation
Because intel have been determined to sell the people cpus with similar performance over previous gen for years and have finally taken the real piss.
just get a 6700k and call it a day, clock it to the same speed as any current intel CPU, nothing has really changed but the core count and clock speeds.
That won't happen when game developers start using more cores efficiently in their games. And as these core wars between cpu makers keep going, they will take advantage of them. Only time stands in the way. :)
For the majority of games right now single core performance is more important than core count. The 7700k has a higher stock clock speed than the 8700k, so assuming it has a similar IPC the 7700k will still be better in most games that don't take full advantage of multithreading, which is the majority of games still today. 4c/8t looks like it's still the cpu sweet spot.
She changed shirts in the time between pouring and delivering the coffee to linus. No way its still warm after driving home from the break room and then back to the office, c'mon guys. LinusTechTips has been lying to us!
Special effects... lol
You have an extraordinary sense of observation.
LTT steals all their benchmarks from other channels too. They just change the numbers slightly and publish them as theirs.
It was easy to see. At the first frame you can see her stomach. When she's by Linus, you can't. lol
Raben Linus is guy that likes to wear sandals with socks, so...
You could always use sugar instead of salt Linus :3
1:02 her face says it all
Covfefe lake??? 8:19
Either I drink strong coffee, or your coffee is pretty weak...
Linus Brendel his one is weak
Italian coffee isn't transparent at all so it's his coffee that is weak.
6:51 captions
"Thanks to its higher turbo and extra cash"
8:24 Covfefe Lake
One job
xNascentx it’s not a mistake, issa meme
i thought i was the only one who saw that
1-2 extra frames = huge Improvements😵
Omfg
**WE CAN ONLY SEE 1.53948303 MILISECONDS PER FRAME SIR STOP ASSUMING THAT WE NEED MORE FPS**
Lol no.
1-2 frames is a huge improvement when you cant even launch the game initially
Butthurt Ryzen owner😂😂😂 R.I.P Ryzen
the gpu was bottlenecking the performance
I upgraded to an i7 8700K / 16GB DDR4 3200 and I'm loving the performance increase from my previous 1st gen i7 920 / DDR3 1600, I ran the 920 config for 8 years and it served me very well also kudos to Gigabyte for the rock solid motherboard which ran this 1st gen CPU overclocked @ 3.3Ghz literally from day 1 without any issues the whole time, Currently using an Asus PRIME Z370-A
with the 8700k, so far all good and Asus has updated the BIOS several times already since I bought it almost a year ago.
7700k Users on suicide watch
The 7700k is still a better buy. Why buy a new board and processor and by the looks of it a new psu wow really not worth it
its still a good cpu. I would be happy if i would have it.
so basicly anyone who has just bought a 7th gen has been burned massively? nice..
Lightning_Flash I mean the 7700k is still a beast lol.
Not really because no one who bought a Kaby Lake will upgrade this year. You really don't need to upgrade every year
And my i5-7600k, which is only being used for gaming, is still a great CPU
Ye lol
Under a fucking year and u could of got major improvements for the same price lol
Plus Kabylake has temp problems
I got a 7700k recently... now I cri
Didn’t the 7700k get released like 2 days ago.
Gussamuel No,just no.
the 6600k was released like last week
Gussamuel I swore the 4790k was just released last month
lol I would be annoyed if I bought the 7700k in the last 9 months
my 4770k is going to be released in 3 weeks but I know a guy so I had it like 3 years ago.
LOL 0:08 the apple watch notification in the backround
Holy shit a BIT more coffee beans would not have gone amiss
I have a first gen i7-975 (2009) from the 1366 socket, and it still handles everything I throw at it just fine. And it was only $35, to boot.
Gonna upgrade my graphics card soon, though. The 960 is starting to struggle with the latest titles at 1200p.
one of the best intros from linus imo
I fully agree.
The build-up to the pun is executed excellently.
Excelente
yeah the intro is great
I think I eye-rolled so hard you could hear it, when the punchline came.
omfg, soon as I saw the coffee being spilled I was already saying "really??" out loud to myself. lol.
That is not coffee, that's Tea made with coffee...
Soon the war in comments will begin. AMD VS INTEL
That intel CUP is sexy though.
DIY Tech The war is for AMD fanboys, we Intel supporters know who is better and will always be.
Nah stop perpetuating that shit. It's all about performance/$. If you got the $ to blow on unhinged overclocks, good4u. If you buy AMD you're smart about getting your value.
well i made a comment on the video and i will just copy a part of the comment here: "Lastly the value proposition, claiming that they offer a great price/performance ratio on par and partially even better than the ryzen offers. In the ryzen systems for example, what motherboards were used. Intel is known for high priced motherboards while the ryzen motherboards can be bought rather cheaply, cause the b350 boards already include overclocking and enough pcie lanes. Secondly on the ryzen systems where aftermarket coolers used because normally when a stock ryzen cooler is included it is more than enough to cool the cpu and on some chips even suffice for overclocking. These infos should definetly be included in the video, cause they make a huge difference in the price/performance ratio."
Hehe xd beat it because it costs more lol. A 1600x is fantastic for the price, you really don't need more than that for gaming and if you spend more than that then you're doing it for the breaking rights. So the fact it 'beats'' the 1700x isn't really important.
200w on load change my mind from upgrading
When stupid fanboys try to change your way of thinking^
It's 150W when overclocked you pleb. The stock benchmarks are fucked up somehow.
I imagine 200W is when all cores / threads are running at 100% though. That's not going to happen often, unless you run Prime95 every day so you can use the CPU as a stove.
Yeah, gaming typically doesn't consume that many CPU cycles, really. When I glance at my CPU usage during gaming, it seems to hover at around 20-30%. Of course it depends on the game, and the rest of your system - you might see 50% load in a CPU intensive game (with a recent i7).
That first coffee clip was awesome!
Man....that Ryzen 5 is putting in work on the gaming benchmarks
sure, then buy that and stop whining
Cioby what? Take the cactus out of your ass
I think i3s are more interesting in the line-up, 2core CPUs are simply not enough for the upcoming days. Intel should really take advantage of their faster clock speed, 4 cores high clock speed works perfect with games.
But I m still getting ryzen:)
SUCK RYZEN
Yeah, the i3 line should have a better single core performance than the i5 8400. Most games just use 4 cores at all, you can save some money.
Yeah. Make the pentium 2 core. Drop the celeron. I3 budget 4 core. Then maybe i5 higher clock speed 4c w/hyperthreading. Then the i7 with 6+ cores etc. Using the g4560 rn and its amazing, even with only 2 cores
In terms of intel’s line-up, pentium is unbeatable with its price tag, but if you are just going for a pure budget gaming box, I believe core i3 coffelake will outperform some ryzen 3 even 5. With that said generally like my use of computer, will be half games half content creating plus media, a ryzen 1600 or above plus a 1060/70 will be more than enough.
That i3 overclocked probably won't bottleneck a 1080 ti
That i3 8100 looks pretty compelling for the budget side of things. 4 true cores means it can directly compete with ryzen 3 1200/1200x, and since intels lineup is already known to be better in ipc, I guess this means it might be stronger than 1200(assuming it stays within that sub $120 bracket).
But it doesn't overclock so no one buying Ryzen would consider it.
George Perakis To be fair, even if you overclock it, it still won't be as good as the 1200.
Yet consumers have to keep in mind that these motherboards will likely not even last a generation (arguable but it seems likely), and no overclocking ability.
It's still some nice competition, but I wouldn't buy it myself
The i3 8100 can't be purchased until budget boards are released.
No one in their right mind would pair a locked CPU on a Z series chipset.
If I was a gamer on a budget and was building a PC, I'd still go the r3 1200 path. You're not getting left behind in CPU socket support and you get to overclock! That's the biggest factor! Not to mention the fact it comes with a decent stock cooler. So it doesn't need aftermarket cooling!
Coffee Lake makes no sense because the hardware being offered is unacceptable for the price point. AMD is giving you 8 core variants as mainstream. To get the same from Intel you have to buy enthusiast hardware.
Coffee Lake is not a good architecture. It's not even a die shrink. It's the same 14nm process which is incredibly annoying.
Animated Person Very true. Also AM4 will be supported through 2020.
Crazy watching this in 2024 with now having upto a 24 core processor when 6 core at the timw was huge.
How did u get 1547 score on C R 15 when every one else got 1280?????????????? with the I7 8700K
Higher OC. At 5Ghz it gets ~1600 CB.
Also the ryzen cinebench scores are bullshit, they downclocked their ryzen's to make Intel look good.
yea obviously Ryzen is the best, hell with Ryzen you don't even need a GPU for games, or a cooler for the chip.
wat
Cioby, I actually ran games fully on Ryzen using GPU just for video output - CPU did all the 3D job. Ryzen 1700 3D performance was on par or just below GT210, so World of Warcraft was actually playable. That's what happens when you brootforce graphics on CPU.
that moment when you bought a 7700k and not at all cheap mobo and see how the next gen destroys it one month later ... fml
That's not Intel's fault. With the competition of AMD it was obvious they had to release something new and they announced it. You never upgrade or get a CPU/GPU that's not new and beats the previous hardware by a huge margin. Ever. You always wait for the best possible, like the 1080ti non reference cards instead of Titan X or 1080ti reference card.
I was gonna upgrade from my i3 6100, but I heard about coffee lake and decided to wait to see what that's all about
Cioby yes it is. They should've done this years ago.
The mobos for coffee lake are like $160 at cheapest aswell
Pricy cooler too
When factoring the cost/performance ratio of the processor, wouldn't it make sense to also factor in the cost of the cheapest motherboard to support the required features since you'll have to buy a new motherboard anyway? Like, B350 for AMD overclocking, and z370 for the i5 8400 intel because that's all that's available.
U r witnessing competition. Better thank AMD.
Actually I blame AMD. This would have happened years ago if AMD didnt decide to release shit CPU's for nearly a decade.
Michael Morgan uhhh not exactly, because then intel wouldn’t have even needed to release surpassing CPUs since they would have no competition from amd.
Exactly, AMD stopped making decent CPU's so Intel stop releasing them. If AMD didnt make shit CPU's we would have had better CPU's from Intel years ago.
Michael Morgan AMD had a different CEO before Ryzen was released, Liza Su knows what she's doing
Hahaha, you reckon? We wil see. So far Ryzen has been good but not that good. Id still pick Intel but then im not a budget buyer. Would love some seriously fast stuff from AMD rather than decent price to performance. Who knows what the future will bring? But if I was going to bet on it id pick Intel maintaining their dominance...
When Linus is vouching for Intel, he's like "Oh, its' OK. Salt can taste good, I'm glad you're upset. Technology is evolving blah blah".
But when it comes to AMD, he's like "Oh now THAT IS A DEALBREAKER TO ME, AMD dropped the balls here, I hope you can live with it, but I can't recommend blah blah".
Linus, the next time you want to tell everyone your review is unbiased, watch your own videos. They'll prove you wrong.
This review is completely an ad to sell Intel. People should stop watching this guy otherwise TH-cam will be paying him for pushing INTEL down peoples throats.
LMAO! Anyone else catch the covfefe lake @ 8:28 in the video?
Hahaha great catch!
Yeah.... I've been calling coffee Covfefe since Trump screwed up on that. Can't believe he actually meant to write "conference" though! LMAO
Cyberspacedweller Whoever told you he meant to spell conference has misinformed you.
Hmm, on checking the original tweet, you're probably right based on context. Did anyone ever find out what he was trying to type?
8:19 How is the 8400 taking the back seat? its score per dollar is higher than all the rest. Total system performance difference is about the same as the 7900X and 7700K. Am I missing something?
That 8700k is overclocked!
I like this new covfefe lake.
Based on other peoples results in cinebench the 1700X was running at 3,2Ghz in this test. Its score is abnormally low. Assuming other scores are skewed the same amount the whole conclusion of this video is significantly skewed.
but who watches ltt for actual information anyways.
R7 at 4Ghz gets is ~1740 CB, and the i7 at 5Ghz should be ~1600 CB.
My r7 1700 at 3.6 ghz is 1600 CB
Stock speed was compared with stock speed. As always. That said, it is interesting to hear these skews. Fortunately, I only use these to compare intel CPUs, so I don't care if the AMD stuff is wrong.
who the fuck actually cares about AMD? They are more expensive and less powerful in gaming even compared to the old i7.
5:35 the 8700k only got the best in a single game out of all the test, which isn't great considering it should be faster with more cores than a 7700k
*insert the same comments as in every AMD fangay video about AMD stuff* "yea but with drivers and shit and more shit and stuff it will run 5 times better than the AMD in 1 year!!!! hurr durr"
Obviously pre-release Intel stuff is at the peak of it's life but AMD stuff always gets 10 times better after patches. Yet on every game release every AMD fangay complains about the game not working properly. And blames Intel/Nvidia/the gaming company/the publisher and never AMD (even when the game is developed and supported by AMD).
That isn't how PC gaming works. Very few games support more than quad core CPUs, so a 7700k's high clock speed will almost always beat a slower clock speed 8700k. Until 6 and 8 core CPUs become the norm, faster cores will always out perform more cores (in terms of gaming).
more cores doesn't equal more fps we've been saying that for almost 8 years where have you been?
Camino377 but isn't the 8700k faster, as it easily got to 5ghz overclocked
Sic Semper Beats yes but the 8700k runs faster than the 7700k
performance mode actually works in windows now. dial back to balanced and cool temps return. same thing for skylake-x
6:40
My 1700 gets over 1600 in Cinebench at 3.7 GHz..."1440" score.
Well you said yourself "3.7GHz"
Get liquid cooler for cpu rocking 4.0 all day on my 1700
Who care years old intel chips like the 4790k and even newer i5's smash your junk ryzen in gaming. This video isn't for your slow kind
The stock cooler gets it to 3.6 or 3.7. A liquid cooler costs 20%+ of the price of the R7 1700, and the improvement in accoustics and performance over stock isn't particularly great value.
ElteeMullet Hahaha, keep dreaming. I had 4790K and IT DOES NOT "smash" 1700.
LOL THAT INTRO
Now we wait for the second generation of Ryzen. 😈
yup
the next disappointment
Nick G
Right next to Intels existence
well not until Intel Releases the better gaming cpu
Nick G at double the price
Your benchmarks aren't factual comparisons. Running the Asus board with MCE on is essentially running the cpu at a 4.7Ghz all core OC. Go ahead and check the clocks and power consumption. Also, why were you and others so quick to point out Vega's power consumption and heat yet these cpus from Intel use substantially more power per core compared to AMD and almost require an AIO or water to hit higher clocks? Yet again Intel gets a pass from you for their absolute crap TIM under the heat spreader too.
+T51B1
AdoredTv has provide good insight into these questions you are asking Linus...
link: th-cam.com/video/O98qP-FsIWo/w-d-xo.html
U salty?
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Boi, he salty and has a reason
@T51B1 salty much?
The thermals are better than a few years ago. None of this is perfection. The cores need the power per core because they are more powerful cores than AMD. Choose what you want out of the options available.
I hope that we will see ITX boards for coffee lake =]
Carlsson there are some leaks of them, hopefully they're actually gonna be affordable. I know for a fact the asus one wont be...
Invitix you’re right.
I haven’t paid attention to any forums.
Covfefe Lake
Golden
Coffee Lake is a result from AMD bringing us Ryzen.. Intel could've launched 6-8 cores for mainstream years ago, but no.. gotta milk everyone!!!
if there is no competition, there is no need to rush.. now they kinda had to.. if not, people gonna keep switching to ryzen..
That is be because Intel had no one to compete with
They were free relaxing And enjoy
But AMD took that Opportunity And Launched Ryzen Processor Which was a huge access for that
I think AMD from the start is always
Price$/Performance
Always giving their products Cheaper Then Intel
Whereas Intel is 💰 Hunger 😑
Now Ryzen Is In the way they will make more Good Processors like this In the Future
So this is a non stop ending Competition :v
Ali Sami Why shouldn't Intel be money hungry? If no one else can compete, why innovate? You're already getting all of the money.
DevilDude4427 ask that To the Poor Gamers
Don't only think about Yourself 😑
@Alief Patra
I have a strong suspicion Intel had these chips for well over a year, just sitting on the shelf. Just waiting for the milkman to finish his last delivery.
7:15 weird, as if the stock 8700k results are actually from an overclocked 8700k ;)
Btw can we expect an update video on that? Like the one from Jay?
sometimes I think if posts were written in native language so we can translate it ourselves..that we might actually understand the reply and have a conversation
Wooooo Windsor Salt! Yeah baby! I work there!
My Ryzen 7 1700 gets at stock almost the same score as the 1700X in your cinebench r15 benchmarks (1400 something). Are you comparing an overclocked 8700k to an underclocked 1700X or something?
Same, my 1700x has stock 1532points in cinebench r15
not every chip shows the exact same performance
Mine too, I got 1545 cinebench. I don't even have fully compatible RAM.
My 3.8ghz 1600 is in the 1200s in cinbenchr15.
not suprised cause Linus and Jay are the 2 biggest Intel/Nvidia sellouts on youtube. fucking assholes
Good to know my 5GHz 7700k is better for gaming.
Also stop Tunnelbear is useless, they don't support torrenting, and don't even have a proxy. I had them for a week and ditched them for PIA, which is actually cheaper with more features.
Yea when I tried it I couldn't even get it to let me game on it. Useless.
mudfish better
Daelin Asura better than PIA? How so?
XOLiD they have so many nodes for each country, $3 / 3months without promotion, u also can refund if u not match with this vpn. Just go try it
XOLiD and they do log users, they're infamous for snitching people in for stuff apparently lol
People who bought into Kaby Lake-X must be so happy right now.
8:20 COVFEFE LAKE . Haha
Was wondering how far I'd have to scroll down in the comments to see someone pointing out the genius trolling of the editors. But how far was it? Too far tbh.
The Cow Named CAU so let's make this comment go up right to the top.so no one has to scroll this far down....
I saw that and was wondering how many people saw it too.
hat films sure loves their covfefe
that was the cringiest intro they've done in a while
I have no social skills outside of my room so I cringe at everything
TurboCMinusMinus You can't even afford coffee
And still no reason to "upgrade" from a 4790K @ 5GHz. Good job Intel...
We have to thank AMD for this, tho. You can feel Intel being salty, as they release 6, not 8 core chips. You'd start arguing that it's same or better performance, but this is exactly my point. They only did what was required and no more.
Ed. B. Well you see the 9900k and uh that may or may not have triggered intel and now amd
„Intes has good excuse for it”
Yeah as always
They actually do for this one. If you're dumb enough to buy a new cpu every gen then you're probably dumb enough to buy another motherboard ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Intel has a good excuse for not bringing out a 6 core from haswel onwards?
Yeah, they were too busy counting money.
For the normal desktop , ..
Cor, blimey!
Yeah my 4 year old i7 4770K OC to 4.2 ghz is still quite competitive. No reason to upgrade ... ok the GPU but that is it
i will buy one for my little rig when they drop to ~ a ton on ebay.
Easter I reckon.
So we can call it "COPY LAKE" as they have just copied there last gen cpu AGAIN!
Just Frank no improvement? Do a benchmark between the first i7 and the 8700k and say no improvement
Totally agree!! If they had made 6 cores for Kaby Lake last year, that would have been a good move.
Spektrik: Yeah it's absolutely better, but the thing is that a first gen i7 is still viable for serious gaming. My brother still rocks my watercooled i7 930. No problems with performance.
Covfefe lake
Copy and paste 2 additional cores=)
After linus ingested that much salt he died.
Coffee Lake HAHAHA
X Blocky man you stoled my comment lol
*Coffin
Ice Lake is next
Good luck getting one of these until Q4 2018 at the earliest. Nice to have a product that they only produce enough volume for reviewers to have.
Plenty available here in the UK.