I'm on the waiting list for the 2023 Toyota Corolla Cross Hybrid. I changed it from the Corolla Hatchback because the Hatchback you can not put a hitch to tow (as per the users manual) but you can with the Cross.
The RAV4 (and CRV) grew almost a class in size. Toyota needs the Corolla Cross like Honda needs the HRV to replace the size vehicles that the RAV4 and CRV left behind.
Seems like the reason they have to keep the non-hybrid around is to compete at the lower price. The hybrid drivetrain seems to add $5000 to the price of the non-hybrid equivalent. I totally agree that the hybrid takes it from a non-starter (for me) to something I would consider if I needed a CUV appliance, but at a starting price of $28k rather than $23k, there are a lot of buyers for whom the hybrid is over budget. In particular if you are only looking at fuel consumption (and ignoring the drivability improvement, as many non-enthusiasts will do), breakeven will take 10-12 years by my figuring at current gas prices -- too long for the price difference to be easily swallowed.
True but most won't buy the more powerful engine in a line up to get improved mileage but to get more power, the non hybrid seems too lethargic to be considered imho
I didn’t have a problem with the gas model XLE. It drove great, I thought it was effortless, maybe because of the “1st gear” help from the AWD. I got 35 mpg renting it for the weekend. I plan on buying one, preferably the hybrid model. But I would buy that XLE I rented. I may not have a chance at a hybrid. I can’t even check one of those for insurance cost. There aren’t any.
One thing to remember about fuel economy though, diminishing returns! While going from a 14mpg truck to a 23mpg truck will save you ~$1500 a year, going from 33mpg combined of say a non-Hybrid Nissan Rogue to the 42mpg combined for the Hybrid Corolla Cross will save you only ~$330 a year, even though both have a 9mpg difference. Go 9mpg better than the Corolla Cross, and now you're only saving $200 a year... so food for thought, as you may never recoup the added cost of the hybrid if you're paying the dealer markups that exist on most hybrids right now.
That's because efficiency ratings in freedom units is back to front. Other countries use L/100km ie consumption for a set distance, rather than distance for a set consumption. Improving from 6L/100km to 5L/100km is the same benefit as improving from 15L/100km to 14L/100km.
Hi, from Japan!! Sounds like Paul’s voice has not been healed yet. Are you okay?? Japanese car manufacturers are building a lot of types of SUVs. Many little SUVs are in Japan. Honda Vezel, Toyota Raize, Suzuki Jimmny. It doesn’t matter who you are. Many women want to own SUV. Many old people want to own SUV. Young people want to own SUV. That’s why car manufacturers build many SUVs. In Japan, some people believe Hybrid is way better than EV. They think other countries’ car manufacturers don’t want to adopt Hybrid because Toyota is very good at building Hybrid. For beating Toyota, they adopt EV for their future not Hybrid. We don’t know which choice is correct for car future. Let’s see it in our future.
I currently drive '22 Corolla, if I am interested in something bigger: there's Corolla Hatchback and now this choice. This vehicle seems to be nice..... And sorry if I sound mean, but you guys have not really told us (viewers) much of anything in this video EXCEPT the gas version of Corolla Cross shouldn't exist.
You go with the hybrid version ONLY if you wan the extra performance but if you're buying this to save money on gas, you won't break even at 10 years later driving this as a daily 50 miles round trip 5 days a week for work. On top of added up front cost of getting the hybrid plus additional sales tax, the insurance premiums on the hybrid is an added sunk cost.
i have the corolla cross with 2.0 engine. i use extreme driving style to get 5.0L/100km, which is 49 MPG. i never go over 100km/h, seldom let the engine go over 2500rpm when accelerating and hyper mill when ever possible. so l smile when i see the gas pump, and its a different kind of fun to squeeze for MPG.
This is all very well, but there are some ambiguities here. First of all, he mentions that this configuration costs $35K, although technically, the MSRP is less than $32K. What option packages does it have and what do they cost? Second, does the power liftgate come with the XSE, or is it an option? Do dynamic grid lines in the backup camera come with the XSE, or does it need a package (which, in turn might prereq yet another package, like the RAV4)? Third, what is the point of even mentioning prices when dealers are still tacking on $6K or $7K of "market adjustment" fees? You could be paying $42K for a Corolla Cross (I've seen that kind of markup for a regular Cross where I live). Is it really worth it at that price?
Imo they should bring over the big screen from the overseas model for 2024!! The bezels on this 8 inch is unacceptable on the XSE. It’s fine on the S and SE but not the XSE. It should have the 10 inch display. It’ll be great if they made this hybrid only like the sienna but I guess they want to be able to say the CC starts at 22K vs 28K🙃 also it’ll be nice to have the Corolla hatchback in hybrid form!
The main problem with the hatch IMO, and it really spoils such an amazing car, are these things: - No hybrid option - low roof -> worse seating experience/cargo flexibility - VERY cramped rear legroom - quite poor seats-down cargo space (only 41cuft combined!) The Cross Hybrid here solves these issues, especially since it has about 60cuft cargo space... though legroom is still a relatively cramped scenario in the back.
1) I would spend the extra money for the hybrid because I like to have enough power. (2) The cheaper L or LE gasoline powered Cross would make sense for like elderly people who rarely get on the freeway or long trips but just go to markets or local restaurants & places without spending too much money & just want a simple & versatile transportation. (3) The upper end gasoline powered Cross don't make sense. For the money, I would just pay a little more and get the hybrid version or RAV4. (4) I wish Toyota makes a larger hatchback version like the Civic Hatchback instead of current chopped-up-bud hatchback, plus this hybrid engine.
Between this and the CX-30 turbo, those are the only two I would trade my Elantra GT Sport hatchback for. I look forward to comparing the two. I'm only trading it in because I do want a smaller SUV that sits a little higher.
I bought a 2021 hatch SE 6spd in Nov. 2020 for $22,900. That was out the door with Florida tax and a dumb paint/cloth protection add-on that you can't decline. Now you can't get a clean used one for that.
I saw on another video that they aren’t going to make that many of the hybrid version. I want to say that they said 30% of their production is going to be hybrid.
I couldn’t personally ever drive anything with such low output, but have to at least admit that model (color & spec) looks pretty incredible as a very handsome relatively-affordable CUV.
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Do the wipers work in that car? It’s a pet peeve of mine when someone doesn’t use the wipers. Any weird (and completely logical) pet peeve when you’re in the car with someone else driving?
At 11:49 he finally gets to the point -- "This is what we're trained to like." Indeed, the car makers are training us to buy SUVs because they make more money this way. It isn't organic customer demand, it's cultivated.
My god. I had to stop watching the video. These guys would not stop talking about the power of the car. We get it, but make the point and move on and talk about other things.
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The Corolla Cross is the downscaled RAV 4 and the Venza is the upscale RAV4. Toyota is getting a lot of money for this platform.
I'm on the waiting list for the 2023 Toyota Corolla Cross Hybrid. I changed it from the Corolla Hatchback because the Hatchback you can not put a hitch to tow (as per the users manual) but you can with the Cross.
The RAV4 (and CRV) grew almost a class in size. Toyota needs the Corolla Cross like Honda needs the HRV to replace the size vehicles that the RAV4 and CRV left behind.
Well said. Even though CRV/RAV4 are getting bigger, their still efficient. I don't like the fact their getting bigger, but they are selling.
Seems like the reason they have to keep the non-hybrid around is to compete at the lower price. The hybrid drivetrain seems to add $5000 to the price of the non-hybrid equivalent. I totally agree that the hybrid takes it from a non-starter (for me) to something I would consider if I needed a CUV appliance, but at a starting price of $28k rather than $23k, there are a lot of buyers for whom the hybrid is over budget. In particular if you are only looking at fuel consumption (and ignoring the drivability improvement, as many non-enthusiasts will do), breakeven will take 10-12 years by my figuring at current gas prices -- too long for the price difference to be easily swallowed.
I can't agree more. The price of cross hybrid is too high. The corolla cross hybrid se is 30k, but you only need 33k to get a Rav4 hybrid se.
True but most won't buy the more powerful engine in a line up to get improved mileage but to get more power, the non hybrid seems too lethargic to be considered imho
I didn’t have a problem with the gas model XLE. It drove great, I thought it was effortless, maybe because of the “1st gear” help from the AWD. I got 35 mpg renting it for the weekend. I plan on buying one, preferably the hybrid model. But I would buy that XLE I rented. I may not have a chance at a hybrid. I can’t even check one of those for insurance cost. There aren’t any.
One thing to remember about fuel economy though, diminishing returns! While going from a 14mpg truck to a 23mpg truck will save you ~$1500 a year, going from 33mpg combined of say a non-Hybrid Nissan Rogue to the 42mpg combined for the Hybrid Corolla Cross will save you only ~$330 a year, even though both have a 9mpg difference. Go 9mpg better than the Corolla Cross, and now you're only saving $200 a year... so food for thought, as you may never recoup the added cost of the hybrid if you're paying the dealer markups that exist on most hybrids right now.
That's because efficiency ratings in freedom units is back to front. Other countries use L/100km ie consumption for a set distance, rather than distance for a set consumption. Improving from 6L/100km to 5L/100km is the same benefit as improving from 15L/100km to 14L/100km.
Hi, from Japan!! Sounds like Paul’s voice has not been healed yet. Are you okay?? Japanese car manufacturers are building a lot of types of SUVs. Many little SUVs are in Japan. Honda Vezel, Toyota Raize, Suzuki Jimmny. It doesn’t matter who you are. Many women want to own SUV. Many old people want to own SUV. Young people want to own SUV. That’s why car manufacturers build many SUVs. In Japan, some people believe Hybrid is way better than EV. They think other countries’ car manufacturers don’t want to adopt Hybrid because Toyota is very good at building Hybrid. For beating Toyota, they adopt EV for their future not Hybrid. We don’t know which choice is correct for car future. Let’s see it in our future.
I currently drive '22 Corolla, if I am interested in something bigger: there's Corolla Hatchback and now this choice. This vehicle seems to be nice.....
And sorry if I sound mean, but you guys have not really told us (viewers) much of anything in this video EXCEPT the gas version of Corolla Cross shouldn't exist.
You go with the hybrid version ONLY if you wan the extra performance but if you're buying this to save money on gas, you won't break even at 10 years later driving this as a daily 50 miles round trip 5 days a week for work. On top of added up front cost of getting the hybrid plus additional sales tax, the insurance premiums on the hybrid is an added sunk cost.
i have the corolla cross with 2.0 engine. i use extreme driving style to get 5.0L/100km, which is 49 MPG. i never go over 100km/h, seldom let the engine go over 2500rpm when accelerating and hyper mill when ever possible. so l smile when i see the gas pump, and its a different kind of fun to squeeze for MPG.
Never ever ill pay 35k on a second version of the Ford Cmax hybrid
This is all very well, but there are some ambiguities here. First of all, he mentions that this configuration costs $35K, although technically, the MSRP is less than $32K. What option packages does it have and what do they cost? Second, does the power liftgate come with the XSE, or is it an option? Do dynamic grid lines in the backup camera come with the XSE, or does it need a package (which, in turn might prereq yet another package, like the RAV4)? Third, what is the point of even mentioning prices when dealers are still tacking on $6K or $7K of "market adjustment" fees? You could be paying $42K for a Corolla Cross (I've seen that kind of markup for a regular Cross where I live).
Is it really worth it at that price?
@@markastzm Thanks. That must be the only dealership in the country not marking up.
Imo they should bring over the big screen from the overseas model for 2024!! The bezels on this 8 inch is unacceptable on the XSE. It’s fine on the S and SE but not the XSE. It should have the 10 inch display. It’ll be great if they made this hybrid only like the sienna but I guess they want to be able to say the CC starts at 22K vs 28K🙃 also it’ll be nice to have the Corolla hatchback in hybrid form!
Interior door pillar is red, but the exterior is gold? Should've mentioned at the beginning that B-roll is from Toyota..
The main problem with the hatch IMO, and it really spoils such an amazing car, are these things:
- No hybrid option
- low roof -> worse seating experience/cargo flexibility
- VERY cramped rear legroom
- quite poor seats-down cargo space (only 41cuft combined!)
The Cross Hybrid here solves these issues, especially since it has about 60cuft cargo space... though legroom is still a relatively cramped scenario in the back.
1) I would spend the extra money for the hybrid because I like to have enough power. (2) The cheaper L or LE gasoline powered Cross would make sense for like elderly people who rarely get on the freeway or long trips but just go to markets or local restaurants & places without spending too much money & just want a simple & versatile transportation. (3) The upper end gasoline powered Cross don't make sense. For the money, I would just pay a little more and get the hybrid version or RAV4. (4) I wish Toyota makes a larger hatchback version like the Civic Hatchback instead of current chopped-up-bud hatchback, plus this hybrid engine.
So this or a Honda HRV, if mileage isn’t the biggest factor?
Between this and the CX-30 turbo, those are the only two I would trade my Elantra GT Sport hatchback for. I look forward to comparing the two. I'm only trading it in because I do want a smaller SUV that sits a little higher.
Heads up, the manual Corolla hatchback doesn't exist anymore.
I bought a 2021 hatch SE 6spd in Nov. 2020 for $22,900. That was out the door with Florida tax and a dumb paint/cloth protection add-on that you can't decline. Now you can't get a clean used one for that.
@@robme3660 I heard it was discontinued when the GR Corolla was offered. I hope that wasn't the real reason because it hardly justifies it.
I saw on another video that they aren’t going to make that many of the hybrid version. I want to say that they said 30% of their production is going to be hybrid.
Toyota told us they expect to sell 15,000 hybrids a year.
How is this worth 35? The interior feels like a penalty box! What did you guys think about the HRV then :D ?
seafoam metallic was a GREAT color...
I couldn’t personally ever drive anything with such low output, but have to at least admit that model (color & spec) looks pretty incredible as a very handsome relatively-affordable CUV.
Zero to 60 in like 7.8 seconds...
@@johnsteele8073 I race cars and motorcycles, so that’s slow as hell to me personally tbh
It is.
@@johnsteele8073 Redline Reviews got 6.89sec . It's a solid 7 sec SUV with great fuel efficiency. This may be perfect for everyday car.
I like the 2023 Kia Sportage Hybrid best for this type of vehicle (no CVT).
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Do the wipers work in that car? It’s a pet peeve of mine when someone doesn’t use the wipers. Any weird (and completely logical) pet peeve when you’re in the car with someone else driving?
As mentioned. We didn’t turn the wipers on because it would knock the camera off the windshield.
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You guys are amazing as always.
Put this powertrain in the regular Corolla and tweak it for a lil more power and call it GR Sport
At 11:49 he finally gets to the point -- "This is what we're trained to like." Indeed, the car makers are training us to buy SUVs because they make more money this way. It isn't organic customer demand, it's cultivated.
My god. I had to stop watching the video. These guys would not stop talking about the power of the car. We get it, but make the point and move on and talk about other things.
sold out the minute it was announced. Keep launching paper launch cars while the scalperships continue to gouge vapor.
Turkiyede lansmani yapilip
Bayilerin bile 2024 de sansinizi deneyin dedigi araba corolla cross
Çağrı merkezi çaresiz ..
Kimse hiçbirşey bilmiyor
Filolar yollarda hemde çok sayida
Sari siteler dolu.. 300.000 daha yuksek fiyata..
Araç varmi Yok ...
Satış politikasi cok kotu bence
Toyota turkiye ne yapmaya çalışiyor anlamış değilim
Araç yok mu var mi ne yapildiğı belli degil
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Mitsubishi mirage vs spark. - race to the bottom
I just hope a GR Corolla Cross comes out. It would sell well
I guess Toyota has to have some unattractive vehicles. They gave us a good-looking Prius, so they get a pass on this.
This isn’t ugly but it’s probably the ugliest Toyota besides the BZ4X.
Only a Mother could love that mug
Only a handful of these are going to be made ... basically vaporware.
Toyota expects 15,000 per year of the hybrid model.
@@TestDriveVideos And I will be one of the new owners! My name is on the list at the dealership.