Jim Cornette on the Origin of Wrestling Terminology | DARK SIDE OF THE RING
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 เม.ย. 2019
- Commentator Jim Cornette explains the early 20th century origins of the wrestling terminology of today.
Subscribe Now: vice.video/SUBSCRIBE-TO-VICETV
Follow VICE TV:
VICETV.com | www.vicetv.com
VICE Video | video.vice.com
Facebook | / vicetv
Twitter | / vicetv
Instagram | / vicetv
Newsletter | bit.ly/1kpnyN6
#wrestling #darksideofthering - บันเทิง
I love hearing Jim talk about wrestling.
Because even if he's still stuck on the 80s, he is passionate about wrestling. Unlike Russo.
Same. Even though I disagree with what he says sometimes, it's always entertaining to hear him go
Tsssss
We all do fam
I looooove cornette. Dude is so knowledgeable.
Jimmy Cornette is a walking history book of professional wrestling. I can listen to him talk for days.
Me too
He really is! I may not always agree with him, but I respect the hell out of him and could listen to him all day as well
Me too; also, I like Paul Heyman too; the unscripted spontaneous and off the cuff promos are the best ones.
Yeah it's too bad he's such a fucking idiot when it comes to modern wrestling.
Yea just to bad he's a psychopath.
Honestly, the pride he takes is really touching.
Imagine if you were passionate about the job you do. You would take the time to learn study and learn the history.
How did they get Cornette to talk for nearly two whole minutes without dropping a swear word?
Careful editing
🤣🤣🤣
Loaded him up on Sprite and Wendy's beforehand and then it's just down to masterful editing.
When you have to say F you in so many other words So many times it makes for some creative insults...
He only swears when he's talking about stupid idiots, when he's giving a history lesson he keeps it classy.
Jim Cornette strikes me as one of those people who would have been a genius in whatever field he was passionate about. It just so happened that he fell in love with professional wrestling, but he could have been a great statesman or philosopher.
@Tippi Gordon I've been saying that for years.
Most every extremely successful person is like this. It isn't what they are doing, but how they are doing it. It helps to be passionate about your work though.
Jim Cornette
*Former WWE Executive*
😔 How about wrestling historian?
How about one of the greatest wrestling geniuses of all time?
@@rasgulla3412 How is he a genius when he rejected the Raven character and also rejected Mr. Anderson?
I'll maybe give you Raven, but Anderson has been nothing but an embarrassing fuck up since day one.
@@joebob8706 no one bats a Thousand as they say
Historian definition.
"An expert in or student of history, especially that of a particular period, geographical region, or social phenomenon.
i.e a military historian"
In this case we are for a wrestling historian. That's something that describes Jim Cornette perfectly as he has studied the history of professional wrestling as much as anyone has. He has also authored and co-authored some wrestling history books.
Vice should make a one hour special just on Jim talking about Vince Russo, it would be hilarious!
I definitely would watch That Show !
The Anti Life Equation yeah bro. They should do a one hour special bro.
@650 Rolo
What.....who wants to know what that nobody thinks? He hasn't been relevant since he put WCW out of business! Then he got fired from TNA because Spike TV lost their shit when they found out he was working for the company! He even admits he doesn't know much about wrestling, in fact he probably knows more about the Jerry Springer show and reality TV than wrestling history. If you asked him on his thoughts on the NWA, he'd say "bro...their a great rap act bro!"
Season 2 of “Dark Side of the Ring” will have an episode on “Brawl For All” that generated between negative $5-10 million, which was a Vince Russo concept. Let the burial commence!
@@JusCuz410 I guarantee Cornette will be on there trashing Russo, and I'll watch just for that!
The guy has been doing the same thing since he was 15 years old. He truly LOVES the business. Love him or hate him you gotta respect that passion.
That's along time doing nothing when you think about it. start at the beginning of his wrestling career till now what has he done and actually been successful at he is a guy with a big mouth and that's it.
@@diameadozen Either your the biggest troll, or you know nothing about wrestling...
@@jimmybenyoucef4416 That's all you got? You have no response to what I said? I know more about wrestling and I've been around wrestling alot longer than you young buck and I don't even know you "thank god" and Just because I'm calling out jim corny for what he is,a failure as far as the creative part of wrestling goes and his complishments and someone who has all these ideas yet has been fired from every promotion he's been in, can only get a gig with mlw, "helped" bring down a promising company like tna with his stupid creative ideas,is bitter because no major promotion wants him and his 80s ideas AND is only relevant because of his 80s run and his tennis racquet gimmick. So you come on and start talking crap but yet you have nothing to say to defend the guy, all you have is you know nothing about wrestling or your a troll 😂 A you tube troll is some one who talks trash just to get a rise out of people without any facts,truth or reasoning behind what they are saying. Everything I say about the piece of shitt is true backed up with facts, so shut your pie hole you piece of shitt jim corny ass kissing idiot.
I never said he doesn't love the business,don't put words in my mouth and what has he done since he started at 15 in the business besides the 80s name some acomplismants? what major wrestling promotion has he ever ran successfully, name me a few? Let's go, tell me if he has ever come even close to having the success of Paul E, with ecw, Eric B with wcw,Vince M with wwe now Cody R with aew, HHH with nxt. He loves to bash everyone on the creative side of the business and has all the awnsers, but what has he ever done creatively when he had the chance with wcw, wwe,tna? He did a good job in ovw working with some wrestlers that ended up having good carres I'll give him that.
@@diameadozen diameadozen Smokey Mountain Wrestling, OVW, he's managed some of the best, his passion for the business and knowledge is enough in my book. Like I said before, it doesn't matter if your successful or not, as long as your goal is to strive for what's best for the business, is enough to be successful.
Success doesn't mean that you win all the time. Success to me is having a goal, a vision, doing it full hearted, winning or losing. Let me ask you something, would you like to run a company that is a mess, but is successfull. Or, rather run a company that's has the same vision from the beginning, you know what you strive for, the goal is clear, every employee know their role, but fails in the end?...
I grew up with Jim cornette. I knew it was bs, but it was my bs. This is worth watching. I've been watching. Fine job
You may not have believed in the wrestling, but we believed in the people - JC
Man, so is Game of Thrones, but nobody feels the need to address that every time it's on.
A deleted scene!! Jim did mention on his podcast a lot of his interview didn't make it on air.. if there is more deleted scenes. Posted up please. We would love to see it
I'll give that a hell yeah
@paru paro I do the same thing though
@@Derpkoduh LOLLL
It's probably 3 hours of ranting about Russo and Dunn
Cant wait to see the full episode. Love when you guys do anything pro wrestling.thanks
I'm a Jim Cornette Guy
me to and Kenny the starmaker Bolin
But do you have a burger towel?
@@williamschutz4982 i do. bought from him in person.
Me too, love his commentary on MLW
Jim cornette talks way too much shit about wrestlers that could run right through him 😂
Jim is a goddamm genius, yeah he can go on rambles about ranfom shit, but the man knows his craft like a god.
Gewk Hunter couldn’t agree more, he really knows his stuff
He is a genius just hard to get along with for some people. He refuses to apply modern wrestling thinking is an issue to a fault. I love Jim except for the BS with the Bucks and Kenny. Like you should be able to give an honest opinion and it gets juvenile. I agree with him 100% on Russo. This asshole Russo even says 'its just wrestling' showing zero respect for the business and he tries to lecture Bret?
I’ll have a goddam triple cheeseburger!
@@stay_l0811 You think we're fuckin' joking!?
@@davegoldberg3282 oh yes cornette is a fucking legend I listen to him for hours sometimes when I'm on my way to somewhere on a long distance drive
Russo is just a douche that talks s lot of shit and takes credit for everything
If Russo was so great as his fanboys would say why is he out of work?
Jim has more knowledge in his little finger than Russo has in his fucking brain!
I used to watch wrestling when I was a kid. I stopped when I was about 11, but I can listen to Jim Cornette every day. The way he talks about it, it trascends wrestling; What he says can be applied to many things in life.
Jimmy my boy!! Cornette is the man when it comes to old school wrestling. Thank you to vice for putting his voice out there
Jim Cornette,whether you hate him or love him,believe this or not is the product of what professional wrestling is suppose to be about.
He came from the days where it was more action and less crap,when promos was just a short skit for in-between matches.
Now you can't turn on WWE or even Impact Wrestling without being subjected to lengthy promos and bullshit shenanigans before you even get to see one match or else the next match.
19buseye71 Long winded promos actually started to in ECW with Shane Douglas ramblings going on and on 4 ever
So tonight I was flipping channels between hellboy, nba playoffs and Raw. Saw that becky lynch was about to start talking so i turned to hellboy until it went to commercial. Went to the bucks/pistons until it went to commercial. Go back to raw and this bitch is still talking.
@mak0321 It's a bit complicated because every territory had its own rules, but basically, these guys wrestled almost every day even back then, sometimes twice a day on the weekends. A lot of these guys that came up in the business in the 70s have talked about how they'd wrestle at one town in the morning, then get in a car and drive all day to wrestle another show at night in a different town. They'd just bounce from town to town in the territory working house shows if there wasn't a TV taping; that's actually where a lot of their promo work and refinement of the move set was done. Often, a veteran was placed with a rookie/younger wrestler to serve as a mentor/travel buddy, so they could talk shop during the drives between shows.
However, there was a lot more emphasis on wrestling as a story-telling, especially with kayfabe in place. The advent of cable made it more of a soap opera, and when Vince essentially killed kayfabe in the early 90s, it was a matter of time before the product lost its luster. Watch a WWE show now, and the crowd is fucking dead more often than not, unless there's some stupid high spot where the wrestler damn near kills himself (thank ECW and its slack-jawed fanbase for making that a feature of the business).
I like the long promos, but not everyone can do them. They should be reserved to the Punks and Stone Colds of the world, and no one else
This is fascinating. The history behind it is amazing. And of course Cornette knows his stuff
If there's one word I can use to describe Jim Cornette, it would be passion. Dude's so passionate about wrestling that he goes above and beyond for the very thing he loves. Whether you love him or hate him, you have to respect his passion for the business
Would love to see Viceland do a piece of Cornette. Have him show The Vault in Castle Cornette and talk about the history of the businnes.
he lives in a legit wrestling Hall of Fame memorabilia damn
I can now understand why vince mcmahon pisses him off so much.
I think you got the wrong Vince there hahahaha
This man should have his own hologram on the history of wrestling in the future in a museum.
"Former" WWE Executive?! If Corny was a Current WWE Executive the company would definitely be in better shape.
Doubt that. I love Cornette as much as the next fan but his creative juices are stuck in the 80's.
@@JSchaffer214 Not only that but Vince McMahon rejects ideas like crazy. It's his show and he has final say. It's the reason that shit product has sucked fo the last 10 or so years.
@@JSchaffer214 possibly. but I think he could bridge the gap. Possibly bring back some of the ex-fans.. As Corny correctly says there are WAY more people who used to watch wrestling than are currently actually watching it now.. Thats a big potential market!
Cornette can't go back to WWE because they won't let him go off on WWE Television V.P. Kevin Dunn (and his Bucky Beaver teeth).
@@antoniochasten3192 Believe me, it has sucked a lot longer than 10 years. One of my favorite old-time matches is an old VHS of Paul Boesch's promotion featuring Dusty Rhodes vs. Maniac Mark Lewin. The match is remarkable because they do 3 or 4 spots and spend the WHOLE rest of the match just working the crowd clockwise...and the crowd is going APESHIT. The people are up out of their seats raising enormous hell, and everybody's just too worked up to realize how little those two really did. Nobody in the business today can do magical shit like that.
Who else wants to go to Castle Cornett and see his Museum of Awesomeness
That would be incredible
If anything could be considered a National Archives for the wrestling business, Cornette's house is it. I hope he has a good plan in place for who is going to take care of it once he passes.
@@cmc5394oparva oh I'm sure he does lol he was saying in one of the episodes that he has arranged plans to piss on Vince rusos Grave 😬 and there will be a picture taken that will hang on his wall when he passes away LOL and if his family doesn't follow through, they are out of his will lol he's Savage
Corny is the best. Well done to Vice for being sensible and using Jim. Such a fountain of knowledge.
Lmfaooo wooow I was a fan of the attitude era but one day I was stoned and I came across a Jim cornette video and man I fell in love with his content ! He’s witty and hilarious happy to see vice land getting him across to younger audiences
Love listening to Jim talk
Ive never seen Jim talk that long without cursing 100 times
The wrestling world has a true treasure in Jim Cornette. An unparalleled knowledge of wrestling history in a sport whose legacy is rapidly changing.
I want more of this. I want viceland back in Canada!
Dark Side is starting Aug. 3rd on MTV Canada & CraveTV :-)
Love that santa tennis 🎾 from the bret bulldog match from in your house truly underrated classic
Man I would love to get a tour of his home. I started watching wrestling in 1985 at age 6. A tour there would bring a flood of memories back.
Jimmy, you sir are a national treasure.
1:23 I have a feeling if William Shakespeare was alive today, he'd totally be a wrestling fan.
I mean it basically is a different form of theater I see it
Jim Cornette is a treasure to the wresting business. NOT the present garbage called "Sports Entertainment".
Brant Hall as if current wwe is popular? lol
@Lucien Hicks AEW aint doing shit lol
@Lucien Hicks AEW has a long way even though their storylines are better than WWE's currently they haven't touched Raw or Smackdown in ratings yet so they aren't even close yet.
@Lucien Hicks this comment didnt age well 😂😂😂
@@dylanjennings7376 😂
That was just enough tease to piss me off lol
Jim Cornette is to wrestling, like Bert Sugar was to Boxing. The guy was an encyclopedia of boxing. And Jim Cornette is a living, breathing Encyclopedia of all things Wrestling! I enjoy listening to his interviews and podcast clips, and I'm sure you could spend hours talking to him about the entire history of wrestling.
He is THE wrestling encyclopedia!
Jim is awesome . One of the best ever in pro wrestling minds .
This man is a wrestling Lord of Knowledge
You should've asked him about Wrestling Legend Vince Russo.
Lets keep the spot light off that tattle tale turd
jimll tell you. russos the best writer in the history of wrestling. just look at those year at raw and wcw 😃
Have always loved his passion for the business
I would love for vice land to do a doc on corny. Take us through his collection that would make a wrestling museum blush. Have him give us wrestling history, etc. like the “gold dust trio” says one sentence about it now I gotta do homework lol
Jim is a legend. He was one of the best talking managers ever
was he epic too?
imo
Great vid...Jim knows wrestling like few-if any-others...AND he's a great storyteller.
imo
Cornette on viceland is all i needed to hear, give this man a show
Someone give this man an army to begin digitizing all his memorabilia, history, etc.
I need to go in that room and check that stuff out!!
Jim Cornette is now perfect fodder for a Dark Side of the Ring episode himself. In fact, he might even make a joke about it, given that it has "dark" in the title.
I have Marcus Griffin's book. It's a fascinating read but it does exaggerate some info on the Gold Dust Trio. Steve Yohe's biography of Ed Lewis serves as a great companion piece. I think the footnotes which point out the skewed info in Fall Guys is still available on wrestling-titles for the beta version of the book.
Just Got a Paperback Edition of "The Fall Guys" Thanks to Jim's Talking About It So Much Over the Years
Jim is a historian when it comes to wrestling... more videos , more videos with Jim please.
Anyone know where we can get a copy of that book Jim was talking about?
He’s like a character out of a Christopher Guest Movie
Jim Cornette is an absolute legend. I love that you guys are covering this kind of stuff, even people who are not fans of wrestling can enjoy the stories that people like Cornette can tell
I don’t agree with Jim’s takes on modern wrestling but I 100% respect him as a wrestling historian
Half of what he says of modern wrestling is right
@@franklinmardy8171 yeah half
The passion in his voice is infectious when he talks about wrestling
When will the full thing air?
Right i want to see all of this
Watches Orange Cassidy.
Jim - WTF? Contagious laughter begins.
Would love to read that book
#Viceland Needs to do a segment in season 2 of Chris Benoit.
Your wish has been granted as that was their latest episode.
Murderers deserve to be forgotten
I am not gonna lie...!
I would LOVE to watch a 90-minute-documentary with Jim in his "Castle Cornette"...!!!
A room tour would be absolutely amazing...! 👍🏻😀😀😀
Jim could show us where the goddamn raccoon was threatening his peace!
And maybe Jim could go outside and show us the poor fence that got annihilated by that goddamn Ford Mustang...!
And maybe (just maybe) we could get introduced to Jims already famous neighbors, the MONROE BROTHERS...!!! 🚜🚜🚜
😊😊😊
When can I expect to see the whole thing?
Where can I watch the show?
When Corny dies one day (which i hope is still years away) All of the Wrestling memorabilia needs to be put in a museum. Some of these are probably one of a kind and invaluable.
not a wrestling fan but I love hearing about how the business works. I will definitely watch this!
THE most interesting and smart man about the business... more people need to listen to his stories and his thoughts to understand the business as a whole
Fascinating!
I would love to find a copy of that book.
Cheers VICELAND to another amazing series. Best channel on TV.
Jim is the greatest heart and mind in wrestling, and he’ll be the among the first to tell you! Love Cornette
"If you read this book-"
Does it even _exist_ outside of a wrestling museum? _Maybe_ there's another one at the Mechanic's Institute or other speciality library. I hope none of the copies've been dumped to Goodwill; best case is it'd be part of a showpiece bookshelf at some botiquey restaurant.
_checks_
Huh, looks like there _are_ plenty of copies of it floating around. : )
I love that his attic is full of wrestling memorabilia. I respect the genuine passion that he has for pro wrestling.
I would love to read that book.
I have the book “Fall Guys”. Great read, a must for anyone interested in “how’s and why’s” of professional wrestling.
I have very mixed feelings on Jim Cornette but one thing you cannot deny is that it is fascinating listening to him talk about the history of wrestling.
What episode is this from?
The need to make a docu series about Jim and wrestling
where can I see this series?
What a hero!! *opens cold can of Sprite*
I want that book!
1:15 Jim holding the book like it's the holy scripture...😅😂🤣
See this reminds me of the Vice stories I use to enjoy😀
I freakin love Jim. He always gives me a great laugh. I dont agree with 100% of what he says but i respect him and love his passion. Pretty damn close to a genius
Finally, a video where he doesn't rant on Vince Russo or Kevin Dunn.
Goina purchase this book
See if you can get Paul Heyman in on some of the inside stuff, too. Hearing him talk about the business side of wrestling is fascinating.
Jim is a real gem. I enjoy his input.
Wrestling is Jim's life and I love hearing him talk about pro wrestling
Where’s the full episode?
Jim is one of the only men who can talk so eloquently and then flip a switch and curse every other word.
Been a fan of Cornette for years and never found a shirt of his that fit his personality till recently
in 2 minutes and 23 seconds, you know that this guy is in love with wrestling. a real passion!
Cornette may be the greatest wrestling mind alive today. This is a guy who never wrestled himself (one-off gimmick match with Heyman aside), but all the greats of his era have the deepest respect for his knowledge and expertise.
Cornette is awesome.
He’s a cranky old man when he’s talking about modern in ring action, but he knows everything about the business. A lot of respect for him.
I tried getting my hands on a copy of the book but I believe it’s out of print.
What's the title and author of the book?
Corny is amazing when he is cool, calm and collective just talking the history of wrestling.
I love jim cornette, I’d pay 4 years tuition to hear him teach a class about the territory days or anything wrestling
I wanna read that book
Wow I remember reading this book as a kid