I’m currently dealing with the Canadian distributor on my 2023 tm300en fi It had a electronic issue that came evident in 2.5 hours Cam has been amazing I’ve had ktm brands in the past and will NEVER go back I seem to have issues with everything but in this case the support is next level and while it was running good I can’t believe what an animal it is Feels so good and the build quality is fantastic I’m also from Alberta Canada and everyone watching this please do not hesitate to buy one of these 2 wheeled Ferraris
Had one (450 EFI) and rode several. VERY good race bikes. Your assessment is spot on. I like the smaller brands because you often times have more response to issues and parts. As you said, they need to go above and beyond to keep the brand viable.
i have owned almost every brand of bike made but i have more recently owned two tm motorcycles a 2020 tm144mx and a 2023 tm125mx. I have nothing but good things to say about the support i have received from dealers/distributors everyone seems to be passionate about the brand, secondly the bikes are amazing not one other brand of motorcycle have i been able to uncrate and ride it how it comes. The TM's truly feel like a race ready machine straight from the factory !
Спасибо! ТМ индивидуальный аппарат и подчеркивает индивидуальность гонщика. Особенно лимитированная версия в розовом цвете =3 Из жалоб на них сейчас: - Часто ломается лапка тормоза. - Довольно горячий мотор, что нагружает вентилятор охлаждения. который относительно часто выходит из строя. - Устаревшее пружинное сцепление, которое довольно жоское. что приводит к затеканию руки. Ставят брембо - 9, но это не сильно помогает, но уменьшает зону полезного хода.
154hr on my 21 MX300 2t and not one issue, just look after the bike change air filters and oil regularly, grease linage and other suspension components regularly and you shouldn’t have a problem , I’m so impressed by it I have a 21 en300 as well now.
It hits hard everywhere but if you are lugging along it is a little slower to rev up quickly, could prob change the jetting to get a bit more drive of the lug.
Smartcarb with af-09 mettering can help give lot more bottom end. They are jetted rich from factory(carb bikes have lot more bottom end and more power everywhere while weighing 5ish lbs less). Dpr pipe gives better bottom end and more rpm up top.
Great review. I'm old, fat, and slow, and I get slower with each passing year. My 16 300rr with 110 hours on it will do me nicely for the foreseeable future.
I have a 2018 EN144 and really like it, it has more bottom than you would expect for a small bore and does just fine at elevation. And the low weight makes it a blast in the woods, it feels like a mountain bike. I do notice parts cost is a bit higher but in some areas it's comparable to other euro brands. I get about 60hrs out of a top end which I think is pretty fair for a small bore 2t. I'd love to upgrade to a '23 carb 144 or 250 but unfortunately the US distributor is changing hands. I'll probably keep the 144 and just wait out the uncertainty but it's a shame they can't get USA support figured out, they had a good thing going. The TM has really spoiled me handling and chassis wise and I haven't found any bike that's as comfortable to me. Your review was very honest and surprisingly positive despite the engine failure. It's cool to see you guys in Canada have great support for the brand!
I honestly don’t think the U.S distribution is much of an issue. If you need support you can contact the Canadian distributor. There’s an imaginary line dividing the continent. I get stuff shipped across it all the time, and the Canadian dollar is 35% cheaper.
@@ChuckfromTrueTech Cheers! Parts for sure are no issue and the Canadian distributor is very nice to deal with. With whole bikes I'm just not sure what the importation/customs/tax rules would be like, not to mention shipping. But you're right the currency conversion is definitely beneficial.
I picked up my TM a couple weeks ago. I went EN300 carbed. Reason for this is in northern Alberta, most of our riding is more well suited to the carbed version. Curious the FI has no bottom end, the carbed version is very torquey on the low end. The front end just wants to pop up haha. Suspension was very still starting out, I only have 3 hours on my bike though so I'm hoping it softens a bit. Great summary though! I do agree it is thirsty haha
The soft bottom might be due to fuel pooling because of the injector location, but that’s just a guess. I feel like suspension is barely a factor because everyone should be getting springs & valving set up anyway.
I didnt notice any lacking bottom end on the carbureted version. It grunts up any hill better than any CR250 I had by a huge margin. Also Ive found that they have a bit more variability in part dimensions than the mass produced bikes, such as location of weld tabs and what not (expected I suppose). But its made it hard to make parts that fit all the bikes.
This definitely has more bottom end than a CR250, but not as much as the other enduro bikes (KTM, Beta, Sherco) on the market. It does seem to be a common theme that the carb version has better bottom end though.
Are you talking about stock bikes? Im talking about motors. Man Ive been riding, racing and wrenching since the early 80's. Im not sure what your talking about. @@drsrsv8884
Got 24hrs on mine and I agree about the weak bottom end, I mostly ride hard enduro type tracks and hillclimbs sometimes I need a tractable power lower in the revs but it runs out of power then I shift back to first and it's a mission to keep the front wheel on the ground.
Take look at smartcarb and the df-09 metering rod or a dpr pipe. Both give better bottom. The dpr revs out longer as well. Hgs silincer suppose clean it up and bit more power.
@ChuckfromTrueTech the only remap I'm aware of is "mokim" and I'd have to send my ecu from Australia to America to get it, that terrifies me imagine it gets lost in the mail
@cowpker4life333 mines efi so no smart carb for me, I'd love a full cone pipe and muffler (scalvini) but not sure it'd fit with my p-tech pipe guard/bashplate
This is MY2023 edition - first put in production in 2019. Model 2024 has different fuel injection system with additional TPPS pressure sensor, new map, new power valve and more change in engine. Map from MY2024 can't be used in MY2023 and earlier. I wonder if the 2024 version also has a weaker bottom end of the engine ?
The distributor told me that this should have most of the 2024 updates, but it doesn’t seem to have everything. I think some of the lack of bottom end comes from the TBI vs the TPI, but I can’t be sure.
@@ChuckfromTrueTech Thank you for checking. I am going to buy TM 300 MY 2024 or KTM 300 MY 2024. When you ride in enduro group freind each week, much important is hard enduro support than speed support.
KTM300 is probably going to be as low maintenance as it gets. Bigger piston allows lower revs due to the extra torque. Depending on skill level, riding style & maintenance you could expect between 100 & 200 hours on a top end.
Super interesting to watch. I'm a newbie, about to buy my first 300-500 4-stroke enduro bike for "light adventure riding". You mention that this machine might be more expensive to run. Could you please recommend some good enduro bikes for my use which are more economical to ride, reliable, while still being fun. :) Thanks!
The most reliable and economical will be on the dual sport side of the spectrum. Anything Austrian or Japanese is simplest. The closer you get to exotic or motocross application the more power and the less reliable you’ll get.
@@ChuckfromTrueTech Thanks. I guess that means Austrian for me, living in Europe, where no new Japanese enduro bikes are available. Only Japanese bike is the CRF300L, and that is a very different kind of bike, and not what I am after. How about Beta, Sherco or AJP?
That doesn’t bother me at all. 2 bolts for the seat, 1 for the silencer and 2 more for the lower subframe bolts. The subframe comes up in 60 seconds flat.
Great review. How do you find the clutch pull? We had a local dealer where I live and I was looking at a 144. The clutch pull was so hard it felt like clutching an old Harley.
@@ChuckfromTrueTechstrange. The dealer had several on the floor and they all had a super heavy pull. I wonder if it’s been improved. Or maybe I’m weak!
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I’m currently dealing with the Canadian distributor on my 2023 tm300en fi
It had a electronic issue that came evident in 2.5 hours
Cam has been amazing
I’ve had ktm brands in the past and will NEVER go back
I seem to have issues with everything but in this case the support is next level and while it was running good I can’t believe what an animal it is
Feels so good and the build quality is fantastic
I’m also from Alberta Canada and everyone watching this please do not hesitate to buy one of these 2 wheeled Ferraris
Had one (450 EFI) and rode several. VERY good race bikes. Your assessment is spot on. I like the smaller brands because you often times have more response to issues and parts. As you said, they need to go above and beyond to keep the brand viable.
i have owned almost every brand of bike made but i have more recently owned two tm motorcycles a 2020 tm144mx and a 2023 tm125mx. I have nothing but good things to say about the support i have received from dealers/distributors everyone seems to be passionate about the brand, secondly the bikes are amazing not one other brand of motorcycle have i been able to uncrate and ride it how it comes. The TM's truly feel like a race ready machine straight from the factory !
Lol. Ready to race. The biggest beef I had was with the rear brake, but I fixed that with a crescent wrench in about 30 seconds & it was good to go.
@@ChuckfromTrueTech i actually am considering putting a brembo in the rear, the nissin i have issues with
One of the best reviews I've ever watched!!
Chuck, you’re an excellent ambassador for the TM brand. Thanks for the awesome videos
Спасибо! ТМ индивидуальный аппарат и подчеркивает индивидуальность гонщика. Особенно лимитированная версия в розовом цвете =3
Из жалоб на них сейчас:
- Часто ломается лапка тормоза.
- Довольно горячий мотор, что нагружает вентилятор охлаждения. который относительно часто выходит из строя.
- Устаревшее пружинное сцепление, которое довольно жоское. что приводит к затеканию руки. Ставят брембо - 9, но это не сильно помогает, но уменьшает зону полезного хода.
Being Italian snd having ridden tms since 2010, these observations are very accurate
Very well said. I own a 22 en144 and I second what you have to say about these bikes
154hr on my 21 MX300 2t and not one issue, just look after the bike change air filters and oil regularly, grease linage and other suspension components regularly and you shouldn’t have a problem , I’m so impressed by it I have a 21 en300 as well now.
Do you find your MX version is harder hitting and revs out more? Makes peak power at a higher RPM?
It hits hard everywhere but if you are lugging along it is a little slower to rev up quickly, could prob change the jetting to get a bit more drive of the lug.
How has your EN300 been treating you?
@@quentinleberg8650it’s been awesome mate, so much different to ride than the mx, still a powerhouse compared to the other 300s but very useable.
Smartcarb with af-09 mettering can help give lot more bottom end. They are jetted rich from factory(carb bikes have lot more bottom end and more power everywhere while weighing 5ish lbs less). Dpr pipe gives better bottom end and more rpm up top.
Great review. I'm old, fat, and slow, and I get slower with each passing year. My 16 300rr with 110 hours on it will do me nicely for the foreseeable future.
Thanks for a great logical review of the machine.
i don't now about the newer TMs but the older ones are really sturdy and can take a lot of abuse
I have had my TM 300 mx for just over 2 years with NO problems at all .
I have a 2018 EN144 and really like it, it has more bottom than you would expect for a small bore and does just fine at elevation. And the low weight makes it a blast in the woods, it feels like a mountain bike. I do notice parts cost is a bit higher but in some areas it's comparable to other euro brands. I get about 60hrs out of a top end which I think is pretty fair for a small bore 2t. I'd love to upgrade to a '23 carb 144 or 250 but unfortunately the US distributor is changing hands. I'll probably keep the 144 and just wait out the uncertainty but it's a shame they can't get USA support figured out, they had a good thing going. The TM has really spoiled me handling and chassis wise and I haven't found any bike that's as comfortable to me.
Your review was very honest and surprisingly positive despite the engine failure. It's cool to see you guys in Canada have great support for the brand!
I honestly don’t think the U.S distribution is much of an issue. If you need support you can contact the Canadian distributor. There’s an imaginary line dividing the continent. I get stuff shipped across it all the time, and the Canadian dollar is 35% cheaper.
@@ChuckfromTrueTech Cheers! Parts for sure are no issue and the Canadian distributor is very nice to deal with. With whole bikes I'm just not sure what the importation/customs/tax rules would be like, not to mention shipping. But you're right the currency conversion is definitely beneficial.
I picked up my TM a couple weeks ago. I went EN300 carbed. Reason for this is in northern Alberta, most of our riding is more well suited to the carbed version. Curious the FI has no bottom end, the carbed version is very torquey on the low end. The front end just wants to pop up haha. Suspension was very still starting out, I only have 3 hours on my bike though so I'm hoping it softens a bit. Great summary though! I do agree it is thirsty haha
The soft bottom might be due to fuel pooling because of the injector location, but that’s just a guess. I feel like suspension is barely a factor because everyone should be getting springs & valving set up anyway.
a good15hrs of jumping style riding is needed to run in that quality suspension , if you fit in the 70kg to 90 you will be sweet .
In usa it was cheapest bike besides beta. Also parts not bad. Heard they take lot more abuse then other brands(reading on thumpertalk etc)
I didnt notice any lacking bottom end on the carbureted version. It grunts up any hill better than any CR250 I had by a huge margin. Also Ive found that they have a bit more variability in part dimensions than the mass produced bikes, such as location of weld tabs and what not (expected I suppose). But its made it hard to make parts that fit all the bikes.
This definitely has more bottom end than a CR250, but not as much as the other enduro bikes (KTM, Beta, Sherco) on the market. It does seem to be a common theme that the carb version has better bottom end though.
Its a 2 stroke bike of similar displacement. I use the TM for motocross all the time, does great. What did you expect? @@drsrsv8884
Are you talking about stock bikes? Im talking about motors. Man Ive been riding, racing and wrenching since the early 80's. Im not sure what your talking about. @@drsrsv8884
They’re light blue KTMs, great bikes
This is nothing like a KTM. Completely unique.
Got 24hrs on mine and I agree about the weak bottom end, I mostly ride hard enduro type tracks and hillclimbs sometimes I need a tractable power lower in the revs but it runs out of power then I shift back to first and it's a mission to keep the front wheel on the ground.
From what people have been telling me getting it remapped should improve it.
Take look at smartcarb and the df-09 metering rod or a dpr pipe. Both give better bottom. The dpr revs out longer as well. Hgs silincer suppose clean it up and bit more power.
@@cowpker4life333 This is TBI.
@ChuckfromTrueTech the only remap I'm aware of is "mokim" and I'd have to send my ecu from Australia to America to get it, that terrifies me imagine it gets lost in the mail
@cowpker4life333 mines efi so no smart carb for me, I'd love a full cone pipe and muffler (scalvini) but not sure it'd fit with my p-tech pipe guard/bashplate
Good point! If you like TM i suggest you to try (if available) tm300 4 stroke.
I’m actually planning to do that.
I've heard some good things about them
Love my 02 en250.
This is MY2023 edition - first put in production in 2019. Model 2024 has different fuel injection system with additional TPPS pressure sensor, new map, new power valve and more change in engine. Map from MY2024 can't be used in MY2023 and earlier. I wonder if the 2024 version also has a weaker bottom end of the engine ?
The distributor told me that this should have most of the 2024 updates, but it doesn’t seem to have everything. I think some of the lack of bottom end comes from the TBI vs the TPI, but I can’t be sure.
@@ChuckfromTrueTech Thank you for checking. I am going to buy TM 300 MY 2024 or KTM 300 MY 2024. When you ride in enduro group freind each week, much important is hard enduro support than speed support.
anny sugestion of a low maintinance 2 stroke?
KTM300 is probably going to be as low maintenance as it gets. Bigger piston allows lower revs due to the extra torque. Depending on skill level, riding style & maintenance you could expect between 100 & 200 hours on a top end.
good video, but a little bit better quality would be cool.
It's just because he just uploaded the video come back in a few hours and it will be a higher quality
Thanks for the feedback. I do plan on switching to 4K, but first I’ll need a proper editing computer.
The bike or the video...
@@jacobhanson9009 ah ok thanks
Super interesting to watch. I'm a newbie, about to buy my first 300-500 4-stroke enduro bike for "light adventure riding". You mention that this machine might be more expensive to run. Could you please recommend some good enduro bikes for my use which are more economical to ride, reliable, while still being fun. :) Thanks!
The most reliable and economical will be on the dual sport side of the spectrum. Anything Austrian or Japanese is simplest. The closer you get to exotic or motocross application the more power and the less reliable you’ll get.
@@ChuckfromTrueTech Thanks. I guess that means Austrian for me, living in Europe, where no new Japanese enduro bikes are available. Only Japanese bike is the CRF300L, and that is a very different kind of bike, and not what I am after. How about Beta, Sherco or AJP?
The pain in the ass part you couldn’t find is the hard stiff plastic airboot!
That doesn’t bother me at all. 2 bolts for the seat, 1 for the silencer and 2 more for the lower subframe bolts. The subframe comes up in 60 seconds flat.
Great review. How do you find the clutch pull? We had a local dealer where I live and I was looking at a 144. The clutch pull was so hard it felt like clutching an old Harley.
That’s odd. Clutch pull was light on this.
@@ChuckfromTrueTechstrange. The dealer had several on the floor and they all had a super heavy pull. I wonder if it’s been improved. Or maybe I’m weak!
No current USA dealers it looks like? Know anything about that Chuck?
The U.S distributor closed but the dealers are still there and they have access to parts & service. The Canadian distributor can help if needed.
Ther is a Tm Racing dealer in Mexico since July 2023 🎉 @tmracingmexico
Next video "Why I'm selling my new TM."
Lol. It’s not mine. It’s a demo bike and it’s probably got about 30 hours on it now.
420th view!
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😂tm has mx gears not wideratio
🤷♂️ I never ran out of gears. I can’t say for sure but it sure feels faster than my TPI.