Aston Martin Vantage | More Money, Less Problems
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 มิ.ย. 2024
- We do a first drive on the track and the street in the new V8-powered Aston Martin Vantage. We cover the technical changes, engineering, and pros and cons of this nearly $200,000 Luxury Sports Car. Would you take this over a Porsche 911 Turbo, Lexus LC500, or Mercedes AMG?
#cars #technology #business
Index:
00:00 Intro and Highlights
2:54 Engineering
13:03 Track Drive
17:37 Street Drive with @TheSmokingTire
23:33 Final Thoughts - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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Jack knocking it out of the park again. Good on Mark for giving him room to do so. What’s special about Jack in these interviews with engineers is the clear respect going both directions, but also the classic giggle and joking around the engineers get in on too. It humanizes them beyond what just putting them on screen does. Allows them to deviate from some of the crafted material they have to stick to, and be themselves. Jack does this very gracefully.
This car looks amazing. Great video.
Yeah i didnt expect hawaiian silver back gorillas being so adorable.
I know the 911 is probably a far better car dynamically, probably faster on the road and the track, and likely more reliable… But I don’t care. If I was getting a car in that price range, I’m getting this thing. At the end of the day, these types of cars will very rarely be driven at 9 or even 10/10ths, so who cares that the turbo S is a better driving machine at the limit? I’d prefer to turn around in every parking lot and see this thing sitting there waiting for me.
I'm with you. Astons just hit that perfect balance of beauty, power, and class in a way that Porsche does not for me.
That's what it's about. Stats and numbers don't mean anything, it's all about feel and emotions
Porsche might be more reliable but Astons are more rare, classy and elegant. A perfect GT car. If it weighed less it would be quicker to 60.
I would take a brighter color over a dark on this car. Silver with bronze wheels
If I am buying a 200K car, I don't want to lose 100K in a few years and drive a worse thing just because it's "more rare". Yes, some might not care, but depreciation is a giant issue with this, not Porsche, so taking such a big hit + worse driving + worse reliability + way more $ to fix and prob insure + far shorter warranty (porsche is up to 15 years) + less dealers and you question if it's really worth it. Just rent it for X months for like 5-20K and be done with it, then drive porsche and re-rent when you want it
@@autobausspov You act like buying a sportscar is a rational decision
An AMG engine wrapped in a gorgeous interior and exterior is hard to dispute.
Looks like ford mondeo
B58 ONLY!!!!! lol. there is a video of some old bmw sounding more like the usual v12.theres patent by ferrarito change exhuast flow for a better sounding turbo engine maybe coming soon to new ferrari . gma t50 sounds best inside car, more exciting than lexus lfa , 8 in 1 header, 12in 1 etc is nicer sounding but lot worse power .inline5, inlin3 i smost effceint , a youtuber put lambo exhuast on honda civic inline 4 , inline 3 sounds better
@@WhiteLivesMatterPLFor those that do not know cars, yes you are right
@@WhiteLivesMatterPL For a blind person, it's very impressive that you managed to write a comment that is in standard English.
Remember to attack the person, not the comment!
A great review and, so far, the only one to include an interview with one of the Aston Martin engineers, which is very much appreciated. For me, I'm just so glad Aston Martin are now building cars with no excuses needed. Beautiful inside and out, with epic performance and great handling, helped by excellent electronics. And I'm glad that Aston focus on it being a road car first and foremost. That's were most of them will spend 99% of their time and its why a ZF 8-speed auto is exactly the right transmission for it. So, GREAT JOB Aston Martin......now bring on that 824hp V12 Vanquish 🙂
no automatic is the perfect transmission. Fail
@@misternordberg3675 you dont own $100k+ sport cars right? in traffic, on a date, rolling through a countryside, going to dinner in NY City, the ZF auto is what you want. One cannot ever push any of these cars. the PDK by porsche is the only good dual clutch. ZF makes the most sense and can be repaired and refurbished.
Imagine if they banned geese from arbys
they would end the channel then and there.
casus belli for ww3
Oh, God, don't get them started...
They have the meat
There's just something about an AMG engine paired with stunning design that hits different. You can have the technical superiority of a 911, but the emotional connection of seeing this beauty in your driveway every day? That's priceless. Who else would choose heart over numbers?
I'm not good enough to exploit all of the performance from a fast 911, but my eyes can appreciate every bit of this Aston
Don't read my name!
I hear you. Who would you rather have hanging off your arm at a cocktail party, Serena Williams or Ana Kournikova? One hits harder, faster and is the better tennis player, but…
I’ll buy its in a few years for 60% off
I’ll take a GT3 with PDK
Not really shaken, but a lot of soul stirring from that engine. A beautiful dying breed.
I enjoy these reviews with engineering and designer input. There is some corporate and PR talk behind it, but they get asked a top question that gets them out of their comfort zone, and they try to answer it without stepping on the company's toes.
Lol "thanks Mark"
Jack confirmed that it's an joke carried over from the 2024 Nismo Z video from ~7 months ago. 😂
Lance stroll got a promotion from jr driver to owner of Aston Martin
😂 please tell me that's a joke
I'm sure he meant Lawrence but that made me laugh. 🤣🤣
if Lance is the new owner, it's time to be concerned about Aston's forward collision mitigation technology.
[And for readers many years from now who are not in the know about the most recent Formula 1 race weekend at the time of this posting: Lance Stroll, son of Lawrence Stroll who owns Aston Martin right now, rear-ended Daniel Ricciardo during a safety car, lifting the back of Danny Ric's car off the ground]
As a happy new 992 C4GTS customer, this does look like an amazing alternative. I doubt I would ever pull the trigger but it’s at least a valid alternative now. Good video Jack, absolutely class act.
I actually will choose this over the Porsche, it’s just that good now 👌
"It genuinely feels like a $200,000 car." That's quite a statement. 'Can't begin to understand how a car can feel like that kind of money - but I'd like to.
Just do one of those track day supercar things. I did one in a lamborghini. Honestly overrated IMO
Fortunately due to the generousity of the Aston Martin depreciation curve you just have to wait a few years and you can see what a $100,000 Vantage feels like.
Good point. Going from a Mirage to a Mazda3 to a 330i to a Macan to a 911, the differences in feel diminish. Especially once the jump to the ubiquitous ZF8HP on RWD platforms is made. Then, when you get into the Bosch, Continental, and ATE parts bins for steering racks, brake systems, and differentials, they can't feel that much different.
@misternordberg3675 assuming you drove a Huracan?
Bitcoin baby
Excellent work! Zack came across naturally and vibed with SG!
that's a little too much excitement buddy, let's take it down a notch.
This will be a timeless design, beautiful.
IMO it's ugly, the 4.3 V8 Vantage is gorgeous
As all Aston Martin are.
Jack + Zack = lethal combo
Omg, my favorite journalists having a play date! J-ack and Z-ack! 😊
keep your pants on.
Don't read my name!
Ack ack ack 👽
@@misternordberg3675lmfao 😂
I would loooooove to own either an LC500 or a Vantage one day. The LC is relatively attainable but the Aston would be an actual dream come true. What a beautiful car, inside and outside, and maybe just as importantly, beautiful to listen to as well.
I need to buy a new tv to fully appreciate SG and Hagerty vids.
Right? One of the only youtube channels that looks great on my 4K oled. use them to test the settings
they FINALLY redesigned that half-assed headlight on the pre-facelift cars
More like went back to the Ian callum design of the past 😂, love it though, it's timeless.. Those type of headlights are so sweet and charismatic. And I'd have to mention that the f type also has the same design, not anymore.. What a blunder.
@@rns6889 good point. The new design, or the old Ian Callum design are much more tasteful and timeless.
I'll miss the old headlights truthfully. The new headlights are way too large for the slim tail lights, but maybe it looks different in person. It certainly looks more like an Aston, admittedly!
Great to see Zack out from under the dark umbrella of The Smoking Tire (fire.)
The Vantage's interior looks incredible. Especially compared to previous Aston Martin's and even the Lexus LC.
Don't read my name!
At roughly double the price, there's no reason the Aston shouldn't be at or above the level of the LC. They've been on a slow trajectory for it, but at least they're there now.
Zach cameo was fucking sick NGL
the best part of this review is jack vs british jack
I know my local stiffness is greatly increase after seeing this video.
RIP in peace for being Quadriplegic
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Dayyum.. you beat me to it...😂😂😂
Savagegeese (and Jack in particular) have a gift when speaking to engineers that have designed these cars of getting them to describe their passion for designing cars people want in lamens terms instead of just asking the typical auto journalist questions (How much more power, what's the 0-60, why's it got a Mercedes engine) and that's why I keep coming back to this channel
Love the slip up saying Lance owns Aston Martin 😅
Awesome job, Jack.
Alpha in the interview, well composed speech and technique during the track segment 🤙
Thanks man!
Jack has been such a perfect addition to savagegesse. Mark's production quality has always been top notch, but adding a genuine engineer with insightful questions conducting sit down interviews of manufacturers engineers is just another way y'all separate yourselves from your peers. Mark in post using charts and graphs leading us through the interviews works so perfectly you almost have to wonder why your competitors don't use the same available information from the manufacturers.
Like Mark, I'm a bit older, jaded and cynical. No disrespect. But pairing that type of personality with someone a bit younger, with a less dry sense of humor and a healthy... very healthy.. sprinkling of gorilla ape-man tire frying knuckledragging cromag hyperintellingent engineer works perfectly. You're both complex gentlemen with a wide range of skills and dispositions. It just feels fully balanced and complementary. The Ying and the Yang. So many times, my feed gets blasted with 10-20 reviews the moment the embargo is lifted. I always wait to see if y'all had an opportunity for a crack at that launch. 80% of the time, I go straight to your review. Occasionally, I check out a shorter review by one of your less comprehensive peers, then I check out your's just to see the vast difference between the 2. When I take that route, quite often I'm surprised by something new or just reminded again why I feel y'all are head and shoulders above all of your peers. From the technical prowess and indepth interviews, to the look under the car (why does no one else even think to do this??) And the hilarious skits and jokes. The time, effort, structure, pacing, humor, production quality. It's not just one thing. It's every aspect, all the time
I know Mark has talked about and exit strategy. How you don't plan on doing this for another 15 years of your life. I can understand. Doing something you love as a business can burn you out. Especially when it's done to this level with a very small team. I've said before in your comment section, I would watch you guys review toaster ovens. I would, no bullshit. I'll also be watching Jack if he continues reviewing on youtube after Mark goes out for smokes and never comes back. To be honest, I'm kinda hoping I can get and in depth comprehensive comparison review of gorrila chow so I know which one crates the most tire smoke. That is if you guys can make it that far without having warrants put out on the 2 of you for premeditated murder of your competition.
Jokes aside, I really appreciate and resonate with the reviews y'all put out. The effort shows, fellas. Thank you for your hard work. Before you guys close the door for good, please give us a review on taosters or gorilla chow. Go into another review sector and s#!t all over them. They're phoning it in and someone should expose that. Who better than a jaded cynic and a gorrilagineer ?¿‽
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I love Zack and TST. Unexpected collab but great one! :)
Can't wait for the 1M follower special. You guys deserve it. Been subscribed for 23 years.
Looks like the Stroll influence has had a positive impact on the product line. A manual version will be smoking hot.
Maybe if they gave Cosworth a call to set them up with a proper NA engine and h shift transmission!
Love when my favorite channels combine forces
Appreciate the detailed overview and getting their engineers’ perspective. Great to have the TST touch point as well. Great (to me) informative video.
Very well done, Jack! That was an excellent interview. Please, keep it up.
The way a true sports car should be. Thank you for showing us this car.
Beautiful car…V8 sound…big smiles. 👍
Looks like a baby one-77 in a way.
The Jack & Zack spinoff continues!!!
Red Lobster closed 50 restaurants today, mark failed.
This car makes me day dreaming, what a beautiful art piece. Thank you again for spoiling us with this high quality content.
gorgeous cinematography!
What an unbelievable car. One of the most beautiful cars I have ever seen.
Amazing video production. Well done!
Good to see you James! Well done team
If someone were to ask me my favorite TH-cam channel, just one, it would be this one. They ask all the right questions. Savage Geese I love you guys!
Finally. A carmaker returning to "If you can afford it, it's worth it." Love to see it.
Gorgeous looking vehicle , interior is a major improvement on the previous one.
Love that blue color .
That engine has that great AMG grunt tweaked by Aston Martin it's own way.
A stunner !
Beautiful car, good sound, but I would still prefer the LC500 over this.
On a side note, Jack, say MarTin, not MarDin.
DCT if you want the feel of getting kicking in the nuts through your lower L2 disc in your spine. it's a feeling for sure, how the G80 went compared to the F80 i.e. this thing finally looks refined for the new Vantage-
Owner's name is Laurence, Lance is his son crushing cars in F1, blocking a seat from perspective drivers and keeping Aston Martin down in the midfield.
Agree 😂😂😂 although you could argue that any publicity about Lance, even if bad, is good for the brand.
Don't read my name!
Love the picnic on the Tuxmat.
Very nice car. Love the interior.
I got to walk around the new Vantage at the showroom in Midtown NYC earlier this year. The car is GORGEOUS and the one on display was in the F1 team color with the AMR bright green accents. The showroom is excellent too, they can darken the entire space and there’s essentially a 360 degree customization space. It was pretty incredible and clearly Aston is taking themselves and this new car very seriously. As a Porsche fan, I would think an equivalent 911 is the more “sensible” choice, but my goodness is this car special. I’d probably rather have one of these if I’m being honest and were also $250,000 richer than I am right now
I’ve had a 991 GT3 & 981-S and they are great cars especially from a resale value standpoint. But this thing just looks so good and it’s a V8. I would love to own one used in a few years.
Right, in like three years when it’s 120k it’ll be a great buy lol
Finally one of their cars almost warrants the price. I've Always loved them, but they are unique and special, and too expensive for what they are. But I want them to succeed, hope this one is a true banger.
If you want your infotainment system to be future proof, make it modular and and upgradeable
We used to have that with the DIN standard.
Driving an old 90's beater and wish you had some music? Slap in a few door speakers and a $100 single DIN head unit, done. Try changing the infotainment now though...
Stop it right now! You're talking too much sense!
@misternordberg3675 a car like this shouldn't even have factory infotainment, it ruins the cars ability to be timeless
Great interview, Jack.
love how this car looks!
Big Aston Energy
Love the surprise appearance of Zack and your video and he in your video. Keep doing the collaborations they're fun
Beautiful ride, I think this style will age greatly.
Great review. Shortlisted!
Very good review thanks
Perfect entrance onto 70-I in the beginning at Bentleyville. Engine is running good.
I realize the buyer for a new Vantage is very likely not cross shopping a C8Z, but it is interestingly a very similar tale with the current gen Vantage and Corvette. It’s a car that has to be everything to everyone and therefore is inherently a compromise between worlds. The Vantage is no doubt a much better looker than the C8Z, but with how exotic the drivetrain is from Corvette right now I think if someone was cross shopping it would be a very hard argument for the Vantage. I really appreciate though that the Vantage sticks to its identity rather than being so obviously a spec sheet numbers chaser.
The most obvious competitor is Roma, for many reasons (front V8, style/appeal, price), yet most reviewers barely mention Ferrari. I wonder why?
Roma is totally forgotten. I’m yet to see one on the street. Up until your comment I didn’t think of it at all, which probably says a lot.
@@camryt Or a Portonfino.
@@camryt you've summed up Ferrari as a whole for me lately.
Everyone was disappointed by the Roma.
A friend got a Roma only because he wasn't allowed to get a 296 without ordering one first. He said once his 296 comes in he's selling the Roma back
To put so much design & work into something only a few will ever experience
Excellent video. Dream car for me.
Absolutely Gorgeous Vehicle!!!!!
best AM ever...lets see if they hold their values now..
Interior now is absolutely gorgeous but that steering wheel is straight out of an E-Klasse Benz with an AM badge! they could change the airbag cover at least!
Effortlessly cool and sleek.
Aston just makes gorgeous cars.
Fewer things, less ‘stuff’ -> Fewer problems, less problematic. Sorry, had to succumb to my OCD or it would have bugged me all day. Love the channel!
It's a reference to the song "Mo Money Mo Problems" by the Notorious B.I.G. Using "less" instead of "fewer" preserves the number of syllables and keeps the same cadence as the song title. Think of it as poetic license.
@@jpl8878 I stand humbly corrected, with a good dose of, “Doh!” :)
@@doctormoonbass9616 haha it happens to the best of us.
I know it's very early but in my opinion this is one of the best looking cars ever created!
I had to put on the subtitles to hear the conversation during the street drive.Great natural sound track it was worth it.
Engine sounds awesome! Car looks heavy in transitions, but is confident and composed.
Nice to see Zack on here
Nice looking junior One-77
Man, look at this angle 4:36 🤤. Car is absolutely stunning.
3700 lbs ? That's not bad for a current lux sports car. The days of the Lotus Elise are LONG gone.
it's within a couple hundred pounds of a 2005 V8 Vantage. Astons have never been lightweights.
Ftype weighs less I think
Also, holy actual shit i might have a new dream car. That thing is absolutely GORGEOUS.
I love the profile of the Vantage. I don’t like the front or the rear anymore, they’re both too busy for my taste. I hope to see one of these on the road since I’m sure the road presence in person is different than on video. However, for $200k I doubt I will. Personally I’d rather see cars with lower weight, lower power, and a lower price. Keep the power to weight ratio the same, but lowering the weight will improve handling, feel, and braking performance. I think those days are gone though. I don’t see getting a new car for that reason.
"Aston Mardin"
Excellent video, super cool car. Why is Mark missing so much of these mew videos? He’s like a combustion engine, slowing getting phased out.
Damn, its face looks like its in panic, scared. I liked the designs that seemed serious, mean and elegant, this is just funny looking. Great video by the way, as always
I thought I remember hearing from you guys that we will be seeing more regular cars for regular people. I know it’s probably hard to pass something up like this however
Sounds great!
Great looking car
Hell yeah Zack
Drive off the dealers lot, cut the exhaust off, and tune it for E85 so you can say it has more power than a hellcat.
I bet this thing roars
The new Vantage is F***ing awesome!
Indeed. Fewer problems.
People love Red Lobster, I just think that like everything else, the customers wallet has been stretched too thin by the bean counters at every company. I think that greed has damaged public opinion of a majority of brands in most markets. Cuz line need go up...
You guys need to review a late model V8 Vantage manual (2012-2016). I think you’d be pleasantly surprised how good it is.
I’m between getting one of these and a 2021 Vantage right now, the manual is hard to pass up!
I drove a 2017 Vantage at Dream Racing (Las Vegas Speedway), other than the slow automatic trans shifting it was amazing. Nothing but burly V8 noise and lapped a GT-R (low performance driver) with no step-out despite ignoring my co-driver at times.
18:30 I totally agree!
Wish they depreciated as fast as an F type. Had one, by 30k was having some of the common issues, sold it for other reasons, been shopping another like a 2020 after the Y pipe update, but still scared it will far apart by 50k. But I'm not ready to jump into 100k cars yet for a vantage.
Gorgeous
As a current E63s owner, i never would have thought a day would arrive that I thought an Aston would be in my sights...... but with Merc looking to kill the 4L V8 (seemingly) any year now... the motor I've fallen in love with may lead me into an Aston... of all things
I don't understand any of the tech talk it goes completely over my head but I like the look and sounds of the new AM Vantage.