Lotus Emira | Beauty is Skin Deep

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  • We review and discuss the pros and cons of the engineering and design of the latest and last internal combustion Lotus Sports Car. We cover the interior, exterior and what it is like to drive on track compared to the Evora GT, Corvette C8, and Porsche 718. In the $100,000 range which car would you choose?
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    Index:
    00:00 Intro
    1:10 Interior and Exterior
    3:25 KEF Audio Testing
    4:18 Mechanical Impressions
    14:24 Driving Impressions
    20:18 Final Thoughts
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  • @DPCcars
    @DPCcars หลายเดือนก่อน +322

    It's clear that what really makes a car special isn't just its engine or aesthetics, but the memories and emotions it invokes. What's the one car under 100k that you think strikes the perfect balance between thrill, style, and reliability? 👍

    • @savagegeese
      @savagegeese  หลายเดือนก่อน +895

      Murano Cross Cabriolet

    • @Mo.Jo.
      @Mo.Jo. หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      @@savagegeese 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @joe718gt4
      @joe718gt4 หลายเดือนก่อน +84

      ​@savagegeese unfortunately he said UNDER 100K 😢

    • @DeanTrivi
      @DeanTrivi หลายเดือนก่อน +71

      ND Miata. Nothing comes close.

    • @patthonsirilim5739
      @patthonsirilim5739 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Toyota GR supra MT yes i know its pretty much a bmw cosplaying as a jdm car but here me out the car is quite faithfull to the mk4 formula inline 6 turbo front engine rear wheel drive 6 speed manual and is very agile and agressive in its handaling its probally one of the best enthusiast product out today plus its 60k anything that tick as much box as this car are 100k and over maybe the Z but it far less superior and the mustang but that quite heavy car.

  • @challacustica9049
    @challacustica9049 หลายเดือนก่อน +174

    Lotus is what we need more of today. Lightweight, no BS sports cars with clean looks. I'm really rooting for them to succeed with this, even if I couldn't or wouldn't buy it.

    • @Jay-xr3sb
      @Jay-xr3sb หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Not light.

    • @electric_boogaloo496
      @electric_boogaloo496 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Lightweight compared to a C8, but not compared to a 981 or a 718.

    • @Jay-xr3sb
      @Jay-xr3sb หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@electric_boogaloo496 comparable to a cayman in weight, but a fair bit wider.
      Not a traditional lotus, that would be an alpine a110.

    • @theapplepaul
      @theapplepaul หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      My daily weighs 3,117 lbs. And holds four adults with legs. Tons of storage.Has awesome seats and a world class manual. For a 1/3 of the price. So not impressed.
      ...and yet the Lotus is pure eye candy, and has the mid engine, rwd magic. So still very glad they built it. It is special. If I had room it would be keeping my Type R company.

    • @JamesJoyce12
      @JamesJoyce12 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      my 1970 911S weighs in at just over 1,000 Kgs - this is not light

  • @deanchur
    @deanchur หลายเดือนก่อน +688

    "It'd be better with a B58" - Jack (probably)

    • @dielaughing73
      @dielaughing73 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Jack definitely

    • @vindevhunta4905
      @vindevhunta4905 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Naah
      This Motor
      Is way more reliable

    • @Steve_Jaz
      @Steve_Jaz หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vindevhunta4905 you stupid? The b58 is one of the most reliable engines of all time and won awards for the design and capabilities.

    • @andrewrossnagel9433
      @andrewrossnagel9433 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      ​@@vindevhunta4905reliable? Maybe. Better? Not even close on any metric

    • @tinhinnh
      @tinhinnh หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      prob not enough room

  • @rmantena5954
    @rmantena5954 หลายเดือนก่อน +184

    Man when I had the evora gt, the handling and steering communication was unmatched.

    • @fastboy177
      @fastboy177 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Got to drive one off turo for a day and I have to say everything I had read about it was true. So glad to not have my dream car spoiled when I finally got to drive it. Now, I just wait for the day I can own one

    • @andrewrossnagel9433
      @andrewrossnagel9433 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Steering is amazing. But unless you have the right roads near you then you get bored of the power( or lack there of) very quickly. That and the dealership experience is what kept me from keeping my deposit

    • @moneyshift8190
      @moneyshift8190 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How was your experience reliability wise? Always interested in the Evora

    • @andrewrossnagel9433
      @andrewrossnagel9433 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@moneyshift8190you will have a lot of little issues that will either drive you crazy or you'll live with them comfortably. Some people think a cars reliability is based on the engine but until they own a lotus they will never appreciate how horrific British electronics are. If you don't have a dealer close to you then you better be really comfortable wrenching on it yourself. Also important mention Lotus will immediately terminate your warranty if they see mods. They also monitor the forums so keep that in Mind. I believe they own emiraforums. One of their reps knew who I was and knew all my posts, it was quite strange. I recommend driving one because they're fantastic but they're definitely not for everyone.

    • @2010ngojo
      @2010ngojo หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      They really need to tune the hp to at least 430 like the previous models. It's the last ice car from lotus, they have to make it special.

  • @practicaldriver
    @practicaldriver หลายเดือนก่อน +193

    Jacks final fudge at the end is amazing 😆

    • @woodchuckles47
      @woodchuckles47 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Literally went ape shit

    • @super8mate
      @super8mate หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      He's celebrating that it was a good take, right?

    • @infidel900rr
      @infidel900rr หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      I think he’s upset it wasn’t all positive.

    • @axiomic
      @axiomic หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@infidel900rr definitely. We all wanted this car to be perfect, to be the one to have. But it's still a compromise like all Lotus' seem to be in one way or another....

  • @vinhngo1894
    @vinhngo1894 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    My shop is located next to Earth MotorCars which is an authorized Lotus dealer. And man I will tell you, the Emira really does invoke that emotional response, outside and inside.

  • @tranc3porter
    @tranc3porter หลายเดือนก่อน +156

    In a world where logic and rationality doesn't exist, I'd be driving this car instead of my C7. Absolutely love everything about it.

    • @rondail5675
      @rondail5675 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      The Lotus is beautiful, unique, and fun. But the C7 and C8 are cheaper to buy and maintain, and there is a dealership usually within 10 miles.
      The C7 is amazing for looks, interior, powertrain, cost to maintain. Enjoy looking at the Lotus but smile sitting in your C7.

    • @bicboi1930
      @bicboi1930 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Do you love a 6 cylinder? I couldn't justify spending that much for anything less than 8cyl. Just feels and sounds much more special.

    • @tranc3porter
      @tranc3porter หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@bicboi1930 I hear you on that. My last three cars all had V8s. I think the Emira has a pretty sweet sounding six though. The driving experience also seems to warrant the cost. 6-cylinder aside, it's a rather special car.

    • @Promit
      @Promit หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I went from a C7GS to an Evora GT. It cost me a lot of money but I have no regrets. Well except for the regret of track day insurance costs.

    • @willramirez75
      @willramirez75 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Only a commie would give up a reliable American classic for some Eurotrash clickbait

  • @xuizhen9241
    @xuizhen9241 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    Already done 23,000 km on my Emira for one year. Love it.

    • @yukaigong7113
      @yukaigong7113 หลายเดือนก่อน

      94J8D❤

    • @Scorcher-ii1ty
      @Scorcher-ii1ty หลายเดือนก่อน

      Already did 40,000 on my Dark Horse. 500 hp. V8

    • @callummcintyre1877
      @callummcintyre1877 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Did you have any issues/repairs?

  • @MostlyHuman
    @MostlyHuman หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    Very much looking forward to your comparison of the Emira vs. Cayman GTS 4.0!

    • @LedNe0nDevil
      @LedNe0nDevil หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I wouldn't care which is faster.
      Which is nimbler ?!?!?
      Which is more communicative?!!??!

  • @WSS_the_OG
    @WSS_the_OG หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    I wasn't born into money, but I like nice cars. This car is attainable, and has the quirkiness I kinda want (masochist?) in my driving car. This is attainable! Thanks for the fantastic review, gents.

    • @Mark-eu6mc
      @Mark-eu6mc หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s funny. I feel like the Alfa Giulia has enough quirkiness and masochism I could rationalize in a pipe dream. So cheap too.

    • @WSS_the_OG
      @WSS_the_OG หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Mark-eu6mc The Giulia is FAR more sensible, and a great choice methinks.

  • @AdamMarcello
    @AdamMarcello หลายเดือนก่อน +178

    I test drove the Emira and a 718 GTS and put my deposit down on the Emira. The 718 is a great car but the manual wasn't a strong point. The rev matching takes the rewarding aspect away and the gears were very mismatched to the engine IMO. I don't think you'd ever see the top of 2nd gear outside a track environment and certainly wont make use of the top end of anything after. I'm not planning to use the Emira as a daily. Its a second car and for me that emotional fun factor scores higher in the weighting.

    • @bearclaw5115
      @bearclaw5115 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Yes, the gearing is just killing those cars. They had some garbage excuse but it's bs, we all know Porsche could do better.

    • @TheHoosiers2008
      @TheHoosiers2008 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      For some reason I just cannot get over the profile of the cayman. It just seems to have a feminine demeanor…and yes I would happily take a GT4 RS.

    • @judgedeath2614
      @judgedeath2614 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      You know you can disable rev matching right? And not sure what you drove but the manual in my GTS 4.0 is an absolute treat to drive.

    • @m1l3s27
      @m1l3s27 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's really not bs, it has to do with noise levels. They measure manual cars different from autos and it really penalizes them. ​Porsche is not the only long gear manual offender, but being one of the few remaining who makes manuals is oft singled out. @@bearclaw5115

    • @kabob21
      @kabob21 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@judgedeath2614 He meant that the gear ratios are too tall and he’s right they are but at least in the 2.5 turbo flat-4 the torque band is so wide you can shift most anywhere in the rev range for fun. I also installed the GT4 short shifter in mine to take out the rubberiness and now it’s as perfect as it can get 👍

  • @sorinsim
    @sorinsim หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    The production value of these videos is exceptional! On par with Jay Leno's car channel. Bravo!

  • @hrhgalaxy
    @hrhgalaxy หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I do appreciate you both taking the additional time to get the engineering/technical tidbits. And even though I enjoyed every minute of it, the summary really solidified the expectations one should approach this beautiful yet not perfect car. Thanks for all you do.

  • @483SGT
    @483SGT หลายเดือนก่อน +148

    The whistles go woo woo

    • @scotchbingeington6761
      @scotchbingeington6761 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Needs the Bubb Rubb treatment.
      D O U B L E W H I S T L E

    • @AM-uk7jv
      @AM-uk7jv หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      That's only in the morning. You're supposed to be up cooking breakfast or something by then so, that's like an alarm clock.
      WOOOOOOO WOOOOOOOOOOO

    • @LS3ftw15
      @LS3ftw15 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah I got it on my car

    • @zachplaysdrums
      @zachplaysdrums หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thassit an thassall

    • @dxcheong
      @dxcheong หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Definitely not the comment I was expecting in 2024 😂

  • @TexasRiverRat31254
    @TexasRiverRat31254 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for waiting until near the end to throw in the ads and making them brief. Excellent as always guys!

  • @sweatpantsclub
    @sweatpantsclub หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You guys (yet again) knocked it out of the park with this analysis. Amazing level of information and video content. Kudos.

  • @aurorajones8481
    @aurorajones8481 หลายเดือนก่อน +78

    Prior LC500 owner ive wanted this car but never actually had the blessing. But i think both cars are equally sexy.

    • @VetteMaro86
      @VetteMaro86 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Prior? ! The LC500 is so new and I still think about buying one. Curious to know what you drive currently?

    • @LucasFR11
      @LucasFR11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      LC500 was pure bliss on longer drives... Get one if you don't need to go to the track or really tight mountain roads.

    • @SelimxBradley
      @SelimxBradley หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      what does "had the blessing" mean?

    • @joeracer302
      @joeracer302 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@SelimxBradley they’ve never had the opportunity/experience of owning one

    • @joeracer302
      @joeracer302 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@VetteMaro86 they’ve sold the LC500 for over 6 years now, plenty of time for people to own/lease/sell.

  • @marlongreen8567
    @marlongreen8567 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was waiting for these two to review this car! They always cover all the major areas of what makes a car desirable in its "category"! Such a beautiful timeless vehicle!

  • @CrappyCar
    @CrappyCar หลายเดือนก่อน +117

    Buy a scale model and hold it really close to your face. You get the good looks, and none of the Lotus reliability issues.

    • @michaelp5663
      @michaelp5663 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Honestly, I think this comment is very outdated. The Evora and Elise have proven to be very, very reliable. It's too early to tell about the Emira, but it's far more likely to be in line with reliability of the Evora/Elise. The early cars in the 60's/70's definitely had reliability issues even when well cared for (too much lightness added :)), but the new cars are very good.

    • @truantray
      @truantray หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@michaelp5663this video literally has an Exige owner who complains about reliability. Only Lotus could make a Toyota unreliable.

    • @samgao
      @samgao หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@michaelp5663 about the only reliable component of the lotus is the drivetrain. And even though, lotus somehow manages to mess that up... Coming from a low mileage elise owner! :)

    • @opethmike
      @opethmike หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@michaelp5663 Evora, reliable?

    • @AliasProductions801
      @AliasProductions801 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@truantraymy Toyota powered Lotus has been just as reliable as my IS350, Sequoia, and ISF.

  • @adk7962
    @adk7962 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Always worth it to finish the video… God bless you Gents.

  • @d.nakamura9579
    @d.nakamura9579 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    very thoughtful, insightful commentary. Thanks!

  • @PaulEttridge
    @PaulEttridge หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really enjoyed the video. Thanks. I’ve had my Emira (in the UK) since last September. Perhaps it’s because I picked it up at the factory, but It’s been faultless in every way. I was convinced it would let me down somehow, but not so far. I now have that Lotus experience combined with 100% confidence, and that’s a great feeling. Can’t believe I still watch TH-cam videos for the car after I got it- that’s never happened before!😀

  • @drumnbass8
    @drumnbass8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What a beautifully shot video, especially the intro great job

  • @RockMiach
    @RockMiach หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Looking forward to the track comparison with 718. Great video.

  • @Tifosi5716
    @Tifosi5716 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have been waiting for this emira video for years! ! ! I was still laughing about the intro music of the suv video, and I saw this uploaded!

  • @pramey
    @pramey หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    my fav car reviewer reviews my fav car design rn WOOOO!

  • @billiondollardan
    @billiondollardan หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love the way the Emira looks. It's amazing

    • @jpve76
      @jpve76 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Possibly the best looking car under 250k

  • @PremiumUserUltra
    @PremiumUserUltra หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thanks for the content!

  • @Gtstreet84
    @Gtstreet84 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Man, you guys are awesome. You’re just killing your niche in reviews and honestly your videos are just really refreshing to watch.

  • @user-vd2zk4dz1l
    @user-vd2zk4dz1l หลายเดือนก่อน

    Self professed car guy - obsessed with R35 GTR and car related content from way back - This one is amazing. I was blown away by the transparency, editing, content and delivery. More please. Come drive a slightly modified R35 GT-R from the far north to bluff and back in NZ - a life changing drive. You guys are good at what you do

  • @andrewmcclellan1850
    @andrewmcclellan1850 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Have a new 2024 Emira driven 1100mile zero issues, love the car!

  • @claywhitehead8176
    @claywhitehead8176 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Love seeing some Sabbath as the music choice! 🤘🤘🤘

  • @DarkClosetOfTheMind
    @DarkClosetOfTheMind หลายเดือนก่อน

    You guys always do such a great job reviewing and presenting.

  • @jasonpilla
    @jasonpilla หลายเดือนก่อน

    That being said, don’t want to end on a negative. Great channel, love you guys. Great job.

  • @danieltackett4089
    @danieltackett4089 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Excellent video! Great analysis and honest final thoughts.
    I was cross-shopping the Emira and a Cayman GTS 4.0. Since the Cayman is in its final production year, it was now or never to order one to my spec. I want a second car for occasional track use, canyon runs, and future road trips.
    I’m glad I bought the Cayman for its build quality, relative reliability (and dlr network when away from home), bespoke Porsche engine, and practical luggage space. The driving experience is 95% of the Lotus (or maybe better?) and the interior is a generation older, but thank you for reinforcing my decision.
    Looking forward to the comparo video.

    • @marcosvaldes8910
      @marcosvaldes8910 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You hit it on the nail! This is my assessment as well. As an owner of the 981S, I love how fun my Cayman is and the reliability factor. My next logical move would be a GTS 4.0 or a preowned Emira after all the corks are figured out

  • @RealAvus
    @RealAvus หลายเดือนก่อน +76

    This car is more "1st gen NSX" than the NSX (2nd gen)
    Light weight, RWD, manual, easy to look out, easy to drive, not win by hp - a true 1st gen NSX spiritual successor.

    • @EvoraGT430
      @EvoraGT430 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      It's a Mark 3 Evora, basically.

    • @2010ngojo
      @2010ngojo หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Nsx is not suppose to be the same old stuff. Literally in name to be different or experimental.

    • @qx4n9e1xp
      @qx4n9e1xp หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​​@@2010ngojoThan the World Rally eXpiriment has long forgotten that meaning 😂 (unless the "sport" CVT is their experiment)

    • @actionfaction2558
      @actionfaction2558 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Right. I began to seriously look at this car when I realized the 2nd Gen NSX started way above my price point and the first gens were also too pricey. Plus Lotus history of driver focus aided this decision.

    • @2010ngojo
      @2010ngojo หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@qx4n9e1xp
      Yeah, Subaru lost it's innovation when Mitsubishi pulled the Evo out of the market. Maybe even before then.

  • @gmund317
    @gmund317 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Absolutely stunning car! Gorgeous!! But there is no way I could bear that supercharger whine. Cayman GTS for me...

    • @vindevhunta4905
      @vindevhunta4905 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      In this EV era That supercharger sound it awesome..seem you are not a true car person…

    • @Jay-xr3sb
      @Jay-xr3sb หลายเดือนก่อน

      981 S/gts for me, need to feel like a kid in a race car for a little longer

    • @Contractor815
      @Contractor815 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@vindevhunta4905 Some people don't like the sound of turbos and superchargers (raises hand). I definitely prefer my engines naturally aspirated.

    • @vindevhunta4905
      @vindevhunta4905 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Contractor815 fair enough

  • @ArneuTube
    @ArneuTube หลายเดือนก่อน

    another amazing video! thank you so much!

  • @goatsplitter
    @goatsplitter หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great production. What a car. Looks amazing, Jack saying it's like an NSX is a great review on its own. Plenty of people will be plenty happy to deal with its 'lotus'ness' to enjoy what seems like a fantastic car.

  • @willbobig
    @willbobig หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I have been saying this for sometime, but I feel that the Evora and now Emira are a better representation of the NSX that we have grown to love. Acura / Honda just had to replicate something not too distant from these Lotus in order to captivate our hearts again, but went off into a completely new direction with the latest (2017+) iteration.

  • @pompulousify
    @pompulousify หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    I had an Evora 400 - and dealing with the BS fit and finish issues made me never want to get a Lotus again. The driving experience is phenomenal - but if I ever get a pricey fun car again it will for sure be a Porsche as you don't have those issues.

    • @gazman9468
      @gazman9468 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      As a Porsche owner this saddens me. I feel like Lotus have always been on the cusp of producing something to rival the Cayman/Boxster and yet even after all the investment it still isn't quite there. I really hope Lotus get it right before this model disappears entirely as we now know it's the last of its kind.

    • @SSRstudio
      @SSRstudio หลายเดือนก่อน

      i own and Evora 400 - reliabble and easy car to fix, while Porsche problems can cost a fortune - especially things like the new engine

    • @chasejohnson6587
      @chasejohnson6587 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Also owned an Evora 400. I loved the car under 8/10ths (road use), but couldn't quite get along with it as expected on track. From my experience with multiple events, the front end (with the factory Bilstein dampers), wasn't as transparent and sure-footed under threshold braking and turn-in. If I had plenty of garage space, I would've kept the Evora as a street-only weekend car. Given limited garage space, my fun car(s) need to strike an optimal balance between street and track use. Bought a 981 Cayman S to replace the Lotus and it's much better on track but less fun, less of an occasion, on public roads. My M2C, on the other hand, is a blast on public roads but is heavier, worse on consumables, and requires more modification to hold up to extended sessions on track. Tradeoffs!

    • @fzr1000981
      @fzr1000981 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hopefully Lotus sorts out more of the issues, buying the first year is risky. I heard they are shutting down 2025 production though?

  • @quocanhphanho8969
    @quocanhphanho8969 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can’t wait for the comparo mentioned in the video!

  • @rcmustsee437
    @rcmustsee437 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video i think your best yet

  • @dannoyes4493
    @dannoyes4493 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Fantastic review of a fantastic car.
    Idiot light? Who's the idiot?
    Crummy stereo? I'm partially deaf.
    Wind noise? Compared to what? a convertible?
    Love it.
    Well Done.
    P.S. - I had no idea the Lotus Evija EV weighs 2,000,000 lbs.!

  • @aceofspades6667
    @aceofspades6667 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    As an ND2 owner I would love to tuoro one of these someday. But I love owned the nd2 for about 3 years now with 60k miles. I beat the piss out of it and not so much as a check engine light. The reliability and low maintenance cost I’d just insane. I understand the lotus is better in nearly every objective driving category I just don’t think i could buy one even if in the budget.

    • @viscountslappy5085
      @viscountslappy5085 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Especially when you could get multiple ND's for the price of one of these. Get the same feeling every time I look at vintage British sports cars, and then realize I have an NB in the garage.

    • @Rick1984FL
      @Rick1984FL หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I had an evora GT and now I have a nd2 rf (needed to buy a house) and while the GT was a unique car I was always nervous something serious was going to break on it having the nearest lotus dealer literally hours away… meanwhile I drive the nd2 and have no worries just smiles knowing ultimately it’s “just” a Mazda… and I have one of those dealers worst case 15 minutes from my house.

    • @joeracer302
      @joeracer302 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@viscountslappy5085 My BIL and sister have had multiple Miata’s while also owning Lotus, Jaguar, Aston, etc. so apparently it’s possible to own multiple Miatas and also own Lotus …

    • @shortstories3349
      @shortstories3349 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@viscountslappy5085 And the craziest thing is that you could have multiple Miata's and each one setup with it's own unique drivetrain with how plentiful the aftermarket support is; and probably still stay under what the Emira costs. The Emira does look sublime though.

    • @alb9022
      @alb9022 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      did you just butcher a third of your texts?

  • @onethousandtwonortheast8848
    @onethousandtwonortheast8848 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We’re going to test drive an Emira tomorrow. I feel like this video has me educated enough to manage expectations and make a decision that’s balanced with our situation and needs. We will see what happens.

  • @tombuckley91
    @tombuckley91 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I bought a GT86 10 years ago and I watched all of your series on that car, where you delightfully compared to a cheeseburger. I bought the Emira last July, and with great trepidation I clicked the thumbnail. Really glad you like it, I had it round Anglesey (a great little track on this side of the pond) and it was an absolute blast. I think you guys already said it, in an event that was dominated by GT4 RS’s, 911’s, and even some GT3’s, everyone commented on how special the little Lotus was.

  • @KZ-se4ik
    @KZ-se4ik หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Damn, Jack going deep with the Blade/Kris Kristoferson reference. Respect

  • @thepilotist7297
    @thepilotist7297 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    The real spiritual successor to the original NSX

    • @getthecats
      @getthecats หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nah

    • @EvoraGT430
      @EvoraGT430 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That was the Evora.

  • @HdHd-hp6qz
    @HdHd-hp6qz หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bang for buck this is the best sports car on the market imo

  • @DLNix
    @DLNix หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great Video. Own 3 Evoras but waiting for 400hp+ 4cyl cylinder models. For track use it will be much better then V6.

  • @Roddy451
    @Roddy451 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    No denying, IMHO, this is Lotus' best-looking car since the Esprit. It is that reliability thing that keeps me away from this brand.
    The C8 reminds me of the Alfa Romeo Milano. From the rear 3/4 view, it has a bit of that "a-crash-tested-car-that-has-already-been-crash-tested" look (aka Alfa Romeo Milano look). Still, I would go for the C8-after a priest blesses the transmission, of course.
    P.S. I can't believe I wrote Milano and was able to keep a straight face.

  • @ingaz6565
    @ingaz6565 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    For a car that starts at 99k this is very special.
    Easily looks like a 200k car and to the untrained eye would look like a direct competitor to a Mclaren or Ferrari.
    Lotus has come a long way.

    • @Rocket9944
      @Rocket9944 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I disagree , 99k and up is a lot of money for a tiny car with a V6, yes it looks good but I think it's overpriced.

    • @TheRandomMichael
      @TheRandomMichael หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Rocket9944 yep Z06 would probably beat this car at everything for just a little more. If you don't mind buying used there are a lot of options under 100k, including what I would pick up, a V10 Gallardo.

    • @ksegg_ffs
      @ksegg_ffs หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Looks like a $70K car to me.

    • @Sashazur
      @Sashazur หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@ksegg_ffsYou probably haven’t priced new cars lately!

    • @thedudeabides1443
      @thedudeabides1443 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Looks like a $70-80k car, overpriced at $99k. Not even in the same category as McLaren, much less Ferrari. And for a little more than $200k you are in older Porsche GT3 territory which is a better car by a mile in all regards.
      Other than that, I agree with you.

  • @ForeverDownByLaw
    @ForeverDownByLaw หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love this car. Hope to have one of these or an Evora someday.

  • @TexasVexes
    @TexasVexes หลายเดือนก่อน

    It may pay off to have waited, now with more information. Thanks for your work

  • @GadgetyMV
    @GadgetyMV หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    Odd that Lotus owner Geely doesn't utilize one of their other brand's dealer network for after sales support, which it will be needing.

    • @Spoolingturbski
      @Spoolingturbski หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      They will be able to go to some Volvo dealers

    • @karacha
      @karacha หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      They should absolutely try to go through Volvo. There are some nice interior elements by Volvo in there too. :)

    • @benjamindoyle668
      @benjamindoyle668 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@karacha Yes there are! Came here to see if anyone had noticed!

  • @jeffreysalzman1497
    @jeffreysalzman1497 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    It's. just. SO. damned. pretty! I can tell you, if I could afford this car, I certainly wouldn't mind a noisy window rubber or some HVAC glitches. I'd be as happy as a two peckered tom cat just driving this Lotus.

  • @faraz2498
    @faraz2498 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nailed every downshift 👌

  • @daner650
    @daner650 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    finally ive been waiting for thisss thanks

  • @juniormeghji2551
    @juniormeghji2551 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Now that California finally allowed Lotus to start giving out allocations to buyers like me to get their Lotus I'm happy. California really fucked up the delivery times for this car. As soon as I heard about this car I drove downtown Toronto to Gentry Lane and met with George and speced my allocation. Gave my deposit and have been waiting for the call that I'll be taking delivery of my Lotus soon. I have my Aston Martin DB9 Volante that I use for road trips to Niagara or Montreal, my FD rx7 for track days when I want to go 10/10ths and really push it. But this will be my everyday fun car to and from to work and Sundays to enjoy the back roads.
    Ever since I got a ride in my uncle's Lotus Esprit V8 turbo when I was 10 I wanted a Lotus. You don't buy a Lotus to say you have the fastest car in the group. Just like I didn't buy the Aston to say I have a faster grand tourer. It's emotional.

    • @fzr1000981
      @fzr1000981 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Single turbo FD? Dyno?

  • @paisis123
    @paisis123 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Hey Guys,
    I have a 2020 Lotus Evora GT that I put so far 92,000 miles on it since buying it new 3 years ago. I still daily it as my ONLY car.
    Love Lotus as a brand, but aftermarket, and support in general has always been a hit or miss.
    The forums are filled with very enthusiastic people to help with the little issues that WILL show up.
    I think you convinced me to go ahead and get the Emira as the new daily.

  • @humankapital2000
    @humankapital2000 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I went for the Alpine A110S. Love it!

  • @royo7706
    @royo7706 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another great video from the best video team on the internet! Thanks for doing what you do. I'll get an Emira at some point; gotta have the last NA Lotus to park next to my 85 Esprit. :)

  • @spireland5
    @spireland5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Part of me really wants to own a Lotus, but I just couldn't deal with the pain points. C8 is just such an easy car to live with.

    • @redcars72
      @redcars72 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I definitely don't align with their comment that the C8 is fugly, I actually like the proportions of the C8 more than the Emira.

  • @MohammedAso-lg5vr
    @MohammedAso-lg5vr หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    the stains on the upper door panel at 14:42 are sus

    • @Ian-oe9wp
      @Ian-oe9wp หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      sussy geese

    • @dougrobinson8602
      @dougrobinson8602 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Ian-oe9wp Beef 'N Cheddar?

    • @savagegeese
      @savagegeese  หลายเดือนก่อน +65

      Beef and white cheddar does not come off that leather.

    • @MohammedAso-lg5vr
      @MohammedAso-lg5vr หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@savagegeese bars

    • @mayamanign
      @mayamanign หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@savagegeese we need taco hat back!

  • @wass006
    @wass006 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These guys are the best American reviewers, they are sophisticated guys. Not the typical over excited American.

    • @jpve76
      @jpve76 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are Canadian.

  • @CarGuy11
    @CarGuy11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Would you go with Tour suspension if you were not tracking it or would it feel too floaty for spirited canyon drives?

    • @savagegeese
      @savagegeese  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sport suspension is soft. Just go that route.

  • @boostedmedia
    @boostedmedia หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Yaaaas!!! Been waiting for this one ;)

  • @nikosavo1393
    @nikosavo1393 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thanks!

  • @subnegro4946
    @subnegro4946 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    The best looking car starting under 100k I would say of all time!!!

  • @MilushevGeorgi
    @MilushevGeorgi หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love how the engine is in on the right, balancing the driver that is in the left

  • @Docinaplane
    @Docinaplane หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent review! I did a test drive with the Emira when it was first available in the US. I had a supercharged NSX at the time. I felt the NSX was a better car performance wise, so I did not get the Emira. However, the NSX was getting pretty old and so I got a Lotus Evora GT. I like the analog raw driver's car nature of it. That blew the NSX away. To top it off, I then dyno tuned mine to 504bhp and 403lbft of torque. That is a serious performing car. Yes, the view out the front of the NSX is better. My car is what Honda should have made as the new NSX in 2017.

  • @kaileysweeney4240
    @kaileysweeney4240 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I’m a Pisces. This is my dream car. Hope they develop a version with a removable roof.

    • @getdealtwithquick
      @getdealtwithquick หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Same. Unfortunately, I read somewhere that Lotus already confirmed they won't make one. Sad face.

    • @BaileyWiggebutt
      @BaileyWiggebutt หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What does being a Pisces matter? Or am I missing something? I’m a Pisces too 😊 I tried to buy one in 2021 but couldn’t get my hands on one at the time. I ended up getting something different.

  • @anthonye1028
    @anthonye1028 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Lotus has a tough road ahead as a purely EV company.
    I don't think they're going to make it.

    • @Zobeid
      @Zobeid หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well. . . My 2010 Tesla Roadster, which I adore, and which was in fact assembled by Lotus (as a "glider" and then Tesla installed the power train), is showing its age, and I am watching all my options for its replacement. I'd love to see Lotus come through. It gives me optimism that they're going all-in, not trying to develop an EV as some half-baked side project.

  • @ystebadvonschlegel3295
    @ystebadvonschlegel3295 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I pre-ordered one of these, put my deposit down, waited over 3 years checking almost daily on the Emira forums. After lengthly delays, slow 0-60 performance and a test drive that did put a big smile on my face but quality concerns went up - I canceled and bought a Z4. The emira is no doubt a much more beautiful car, but I love the convertible and I’d rek the Emira on the streets where I drive. For a pure weekend car - get one. The mid engine supercharger sound is a hell of a lot of fun. For a primary car, I would advise looking elsewhere based on my experience.

    • @zoner__
      @zoner__ หลายเดือนก่อน

      Congrats Z4 is a great car

  • @hafidrodarte3135
    @hafidrodarte3135 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome content!!

  • @17forever64
    @17forever64 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    It’s a beautiful car, but. I’m so over having a sports car that has issues. There are to many options out there now where you don’t have to deal with little problems all of the time. Then again, I have owned several Porsche’s and had many similar issues, I would never own one again. Interesting that you stated that the Porsche engine was more reliable than a Toyota engine, I don’t agree with that at all. Maybe the added super charger changes it, but I’m not sure. Great video and I’m glad you guys are finally getting the views you deserve. Your the best on the internet!

    • @andoletube
      @andoletube หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Tend to agree. If this engine is unreliable, it's the induction system, not the Toyota V6.

  • @AntoniusTyas
    @AntoniusTyas หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Erm... actually the chassis is very much the same with Evora, save for some ported holes for new electronics. The track width and wheelbase length are pretty much the same as Evora, which is weird for a car that was supposed to be 100% brand new.
    Don't take it as a criticism towards the Emira, though. Sharing the same backbone as one of the best driver's car ever made is no bad thing. I just wish Lotus would iron out the reliability issues.

    • @sgreensdlintl
      @sgreensdlintl หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, it's a joke that it's pretty obvious it's essentially the same car but people are willing to roll out the Lotus line of 'all new' as you say, that's not an issue but don't peddle the bull...

  • @ezsog8903
    @ezsog8903 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always Enjoy Savagegeese videos, I am entertained and educated. Don't know what you do , keep doing it. God willing I will be a pateron as soon as I can, just cause y'all are dedicated.

  • @KomosejamaB
    @KomosejamaB หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very professional review...

  • @hbullock
    @hbullock หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Nice review. A special car, but I’m not feeling the front bonnet slats or the supercharger whine. And I’m US, so lack of service is a deal breaker.
    My main question…when are you reviewing the Porsche spyder rs? 😎

  • @jire9831
    @jire9831 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    While it looks great on paper I'm not sure if it's worth the hassle of having to deal with dealership issues. For my money (of which there is none) it's going to be the Porsche.

    • @EvoraGT430
      @EvoraGT430 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You and 95% of people, sadly.

  • @RyanSheppard
    @RyanSheppard หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks to Patagonia for another great video

  • @PrinceOfHavendale
    @PrinceOfHavendale หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That hoodie is sick.

  • @stevezilla68
    @stevezilla68 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Why can't the Corvette look this good??

    • @svn5994
      @svn5994 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @twinturboray C5 is ugly.

    • @cbotten106
      @cbotten106 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Because the Corvette needs (and by needs I mean absolutely requires) a trunk that will accommodate a golf club bag. They start with that and engineer out from there. Lawyers and plastic surgeons need golf accommodations on toys.

    • @brq4cars
      @brq4cars หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @twinturborayC6 looks better than the C5 imo

    • @TML34
      @TML34 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Golf clubs

    • @stevezilla68
      @stevezilla68 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@cbotten106 I understand that, but a wide trunk doesn't explain the tacky exterior styling. I wish the Corvette borrowed more from the old CERV3.

  • @jubbalandcars
    @jubbalandcars หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Loved the video and itching to take mine to the track.
    Agreed on it giving way to understeer much more readily than the Porsche despite double wishbone up front
    Sport suspension surprisingly compliant and is great for canyon carving and driving around town. Touring too soft and gives up too much front end sharpness.
    Agreed on it being fun even when driving slow.

    • @darrena4048
      @darrena4048 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Can't you just dial the understeer out with some after market parts? Anti-roll bar, or more camber up front?

    • @grantrainey4200
      @grantrainey4200 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was wondering if I’d find you in the comments lol. hey doc! I’m surprised you were willing to forgive the under steer as such a rwd/steering fanatic. But I guess the feedback and ability to fix aftermarket makes it worth for you.

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@darrena4048 Just uprate the spring and/or shock rate in the REAR end? Sway bar only works mid-corner, whereas stiffer damping/wheel rate helps on initial turn-in too. Unfortunately most aftermarket springs and shocks also lower the car, it's hard to find ones that are uprated but keep the OE ride height. Edit -- Sorry I said front end at first, I got confused.

  • @davidbattaglia2336
    @davidbattaglia2336 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great ending!

  • @CreaminFreeman
    @CreaminFreeman หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Perfect ending

  • @ForgetfulFoot
    @ForgetfulFoot หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    981 Cayman owner here (former 987.2, NC3, ND and S2000 owner). I wish I was wealthy enough to get a new GTS 4.0, GT4 or Emira. But I just don't think I could risk committing to the Emira as my only car like I can the Cayman etc. Its just too risky. And honestly. I would give a 4C a go before this.

    • @fastboy177
      @fastboy177 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I love the 4C too but reliability is even worse and the interior is even more of a joke than the Evora's was (I say that as the Evora is my dream car). I think the Cayman would probably be the better daily or "only" car, but the lotus is just so special. The Evora GT I drove from turo for a day put everything else I've ever driven to shame as far as driver involvement, and I daily an s2000.

    • @BurnsRubber
      @BurnsRubber หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Just got my 981 CS last year. Had an allocation for new GTS 4.0 but passed on it after acquiring my 981 while waiting for my allocation. Is the GTS 4.0 really that much better? I didn’t think so. The 981 sounds much better. The 4.0 makes more power but they are otherwise the same cars. My next upgrade will be a GT3.

    • @clinth4891
      @clinth4891 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The 4c is by far the most fun on the road, it’s a absolute riot but definitely not a first or second car maybe a 3rd car

    • @racesuey
      @racesuey หลายเดือนก่อน

      981 has the worst feedback on modern sports car steering.

    • @ForgetfulFoot
      @ForgetfulFoot หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @racesuey the steering feel argument is so overblown. Every cars steering feels different as soon as you hop in. But once you adapt. I swear the only time you feel the difference with hydraulic is at ten tenths or if you're at a really high speed.

  • @vindevhunta4905
    @vindevhunta4905 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    A beautiful car❤
    V6 manual ❤
    Yellow ❤
    Oh yessssssssssss😊

  • @brianhighers4587
    @brianhighers4587 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I primarily bought a 2021 Evora based on SG's earlier video on the same. I loved the car and kept it 3 years without any issues. 2 or 3 track days and local spirited driving. I loved the fact that it was no compromise between comfort and sport. I sold it and bought a 718 Spyder just to try something different. The Spyder is great, but I still miss that Evora.
    With a decat pipe that card sounded great and the fact that I 'couldn't' hear the supercharger except on occasion was a bonus. It felt like a NA engine with that linear power delivery. I know I am in the minority, but I truly hate the way that supercharger sounds on the Emira. Everyone would put CAIs on Evora to elicit that sound and I never understood it.
    On the track portion of this video I had to check to ensure I hadn't switched over to the C8 E-ray video and it's ridiculous Tron sound.

  • @BasicDev
    @BasicDev หลายเดือนก่อน

    does the car have manual brakes? I've often seen the pedal box shifted to the right to make the right leg in line with the brake pedal if manual brakes are used to increased efficiency when going to the pedal... also keeps a nice anchor point for the heel when going between the two pedals when performance driving. just wondering since you commented the pedal box was more to the right!

  • @gbarton800
    @gbarton800 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Emira owner… 300 miles of break in and no drivability issues, only cosmetic and fitment issues but still glad I bought it. The issues should soon be resolved with a trip to the dealership.

  • @ragweedmakesmesneeze
    @ragweedmakesmesneeze หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Every time I watch a Lotus review, I think, "why can't Toyota take the Lotus version of their V6 and put it in a Camry?"

    • @EvoraGT430
      @EvoraGT430 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Or a Lexus, even. Oh wait.....

  • @_VelociDad
    @_VelociDad หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I can’t believe this is the last ICE Lotus. You can’t “add lightness” to a EV. The brand will never be the same, but the Emira is quite the send off!

  • @Venezuela305
    @Venezuela305 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I paused just to say Finally and Thank You....*play*😃

  • @michaelreis4789
    @michaelreis4789 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Pretty sure the Emira GT4 finished P1 this weekend and Silverstone British GT Championship - and set a LAP RECORD for GT4 class! - I know this first Emira is set up for the street, but based on what it is doing on the race track (P1 & P2 in Macao GT4) Lotus can clearly make a Porsche GT4 beater with the Emira. Perhaps a road review would have been better for the road variant of the Emira. Agree with the build quality issues and dealer network... biggest letdown of owning a Lotus... review was underwhelming for the type of car this is.

  • @TheSpread1
    @TheSpread1 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I picked mine up Saturday. I love it, but it has swirls all over the paint like its been washed improperly multiple times already. I will be following up on that today.

    • @yareyare74
      @yareyare74 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Is it a new car? That's unfortunate to hear bro. Hopefully it gets fixed soon.

    • @TheSpread1
      @TheSpread1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@yareyare74 brand new. Picked it up Saturday with 150 miles on it. I ordered it last April and waited just over one year.

    • @krzzzy19
      @krzzzy19 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's not brand new with 150. I wouldn't accept that.

    • @TheSpread1
      @TheSpread1 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@krzzzy19 I've read that 150 is normal.

    • @savagegeese
      @savagegeese  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You sure thats not a dealer or port issue?

  • @skywalk3x
    @skywalk3x หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I remember when it was announced and it was going to be $80K. Then it was released at $100k+. It has problems that other channels highlighted. Glad I didn’t put money down on it because it doesn’t matter how good It looks if you can’t drive it without problems.

  • @markmartin7384
    @markmartin7384 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im sold on the looks alone. One of the best looking cars to come out in last 10 years