The Big Picture - QUEEN OF THE MONSTERS
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THE BIG PICTURE offers an overview of the kaiju genre's undisputed First Lady and still one of the most unique and often underappreciated fixtures in the giant monster canon: "MOTHRA," the movie monster that breaks every rule of what the genre is supposed to be.
#Mothra #ContinueTheMonsterVerse #GodzillaVsKong
That clip of the guy just staring off as the fairies fly away while the forest behind him burns down, clearly trying to wrap his brain around what he just saw made my evening.
Mine as well.
That is such a "What The FUCK?!" face.
8:12 I love this man.
7:54 It's great!
That was me after the clipshow segment of the video.
The director of KOTM is actually a Mothzilla shipper (yes, this is what it's called) liking a lot of fanart on Twitter. Weird times we're living in, eh?
To be fair, I have seen some absolutely ADORABLE artwork of the two just cuddling. Thankfully, that's as far as I've seen it go, so to my mind, they are work-spouses.
@@grandpagohan1 Oh, I'm not dissing the pairing itself; from what I've seen it's adorable and there's a specific human version of it where they're depicted as a Japanese leather-bound Yakuza gangster and a kimono-wearing lady and they're stunning. It's just that I found that the director himself actually indulges in it.
@@Teachan ...shit, and here I was thinking I would spend my break while wfh on getting the mail.
@Teachan The artist who originated this depiction (to my knowledge) is Kat Hudson, and tons of people have emulated her art of them. Just for anyone in this comment thread who wants their Google search to go a little easier.
I mean. There are certainly worst things to like on twitter
It's funny how in the 90s, no one wanted princess magic sparkles and now we're very sick of Dark & Gritty. I already been through the darkness, please let me have glitter and pastels.
Sooner or later, people will have to reckon with the fact that "Dark & Gritty" is not actually adult or mature, but rather, is extremely juvenile.
@@SaiyanHeretic pretty much. I mean, it's not all bad- I really enjoy The Witcher, mostly because of Yennefer, I love her- but when it's everything, it's just this huge dark mass that is so boring and dreary.
I really should have seen it coming with Riverdale, but nope.
Dark n gritty has been dragged past the point of parody of itself. Princess sparkles is pretty much a breath of fresh air in comparison
Honestly, that is kind of a reflection of the word. If everything goes mostly right, people want to be reminded of the bad things they don't experience. And during the darkest times, they want some distractions.
@@SaiyanHeretic That was the barely-concealed subtext of the LEGO Batman movie. Too bad no one at Warner seems to have paid attention to the point they were making.
"nothing but wait 'til they're adults" might be the best line I've ever heard
This line out of context would be very problematic
It's the way she puts the emphasis on the wrong syllable.
Honestly if someone asked what i did with my childhood I'd say nothing but wait til i was an adult
Hell yeah! All Hail Our Resplendent Lady!
Mothsuraaaaa YA Mothsuraaaaaaaa
I love that Godzilla is popular with the algorithm right now. Means Bob can make all the Monster content he (and I) want.
Big G actually respect Mothra because hers Sparkling Dust is one of few things what actually can hurt him. Though it is suicide move, so she doesn't use it too often for obvious reason.
Okay but can we talk about the harmony on “Mothraaa~” (3:28)?
That was angelic.
Right? The Flower Duet from Lakme as seen through a kaiju lense.
Mothra Ya! Mothra~!
I always love the image of godzilla. The most powerful being in existence. Who only really listened to Mothra, the queen of the monsters
@@gsesquire3441 no one cares about Goku.
Mothra was (and still is) THE GIANT MONSTER of my childhood. All hail our anarchist, egalitarian moth mother.
As one of the people who was jumping up and down in excitement for King of the Monsters I can't say I'm unbiased but I thought her appearance and design were awesome. Somewhere between butterfly moth & wasp. Very cool design, I think there is much more than the basic surface level appearance going into the design of all the monters. Just make a dinosaur giant sounds pretty easy but I wonder if that isn't harder to pull off than we think.
I'm not a huge Kaiju fan, the only monster movies I've seen are the american ones. But For as long as I can remember knowing about monster besides Godzilla I've always like Mothra. A kaiju who isn't JUST about destruction and was basically one of the first GOOD ones. Plus she was unique in that unlike most Kaiju at the time she wasn't a mutant or alien, or even a prehistoric dinosaur. She was LITERALLY magic. one of these days I really need to get around to watching some real Kaiju films, and I'd definitely checking out the Mothra trilogy.
By all means, watch the trilogy, but don't start with it. They have their moments, but they were not meant to appeal to adults the same way the other films are. That is to say, there's fun campy cheese for everyone, and then there's fun campy cheese for 9-year-olds. The trilogy is very much the latter. But don't get the impression you'll hate them. They're good innocent fun with some spectacular kaiju action. Just know what you're in for, and save them for last.
@@SilkAMV any recommendations on where to start? I always hear the original Godzilla is the best place to begin.
@@nonspiderweb For Godzilla? Absolutely. The original 1954 film is an unqualified masterpiece, and essential viewing for understanding how he became such an icon. After that, I can't really tell you which you should watch. My method was just to watch all of them, and I'd do it again. If that's a bit much for you, there's any number of recommended viewing lists online. Pick whichever catches your eye and go wild.
@@nonspiderweb Alternatively, if a horribly depressing metaphor for nationwide trauma isn't your thing and you want a more traditional kaiju action movie the original Godzilla vs. Mothra is a great place to start.
@@DantheManIamIam I've heard Tokyo SOS (which is kind of a remake of Godzilla vs mothra) is also a good start.
Mothra is my favorite Kaiju ever thanks so much for giving her the spotlight
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In the Rebirth of Mothra trilogy I always found it odd that Mothra fought two different versions of King Ghidorah. Ghidorah is Godzilla's nemesis and there are plenty of other monsters that could be Mothra's rival. Like Rodan since he is also a flying monster, Batra was cool, or Gigan since in Final Wars it was said they fought thousands of years ago, and maybe Megaguirus since he is also a flying bug with a cool design and they fought once in the comics.
In their defense, the Gigan rivalry wasn't established until Final Wars and Megaguirus proper did not exist yet. (The larval form of it was actually in Rodan's debut film, however.)
It is odd that they used Ghidorah twice in these films though. I think Hedorah would have been a good matchup since these clips seem to have a bit of an environment theme.
@@KeithTheGeek Toho executives wanted known kaiju enemies instead of new monsters, since the executives thought it would bring in box office.
Been working through a lot of kaiju films over the last several months, currently wrapping up the Heisei era... and Mothra vs Godzilla is still my favorite. Even over classics like Vs Destroyah, Shin, The Host and even the '54 original.
I have never seen the 90s trilogy but that look at 8:15 into the video makes me want to watch this tonight.
I enjoyed the newest Godzilla movies way more that even I thought I would. And the Mothra-Godzilla connection made them even better. I’m definitely onboard for more.
I'm not really a kaiju fan, but I like Mothra on an aesthetic level.
I really like that strange alien furby thing purrs for some reason.
I will always appreciate a Mothra appearance. She's my baby. Not my favorite (Godzilla and Ghidorah take that spot), but my baby.
The original Mothra is one of my favourite monster movies. In my mind the original Japanese film is pretty much perfect. Just about everything from its characters, effects, story/world all work for me. It's a gorgeous, lovely film.
Mothra is easily my favorite kaiju, at least out of the ones I've seen while slowly getting into the genre over the last year (I've only seen the Showa era films up to Godzilla vs Gigan, some standalone monster films like Mothra, Rodan, and Varan the Unbelievable, and now all the Monsterverse stuff). She's just so cute and I love the premise of a peaceful monster that really only attacks if her people or her children are being threatened. Her theme, especially the one from her original film with the lyrics, is amazing and I listen to it pretty frequently when just relaxing.
I so very much wish that Mothra had shown up to stop the Godzilla v Kong fight.
Mothra:
Subtitles: Why are you fighting that nice gorilla?? I swear I take ONE nap and here you are wrecking things again! If you have to fight, go beat on the giant metal trashcan over there.
That was my hope too. I really wanted her to appear again!
I really expected Bob to gush over GvK. To me it was the best in the series so far.
KotM is a close second tho, imo.
Bob seems to really dig the mythology and lore. Which is cool. But yeah, personally I liked GvK better myself.
The Mothra rebirth trilogy is what got me into kaijus. I saw them long before I ever saw ANY Godzilla film. My babysitter would always take me to the library and I’d always check the VHS’s of those out. Sure they aren’t prestige movies or anything but I have a LOT of nostalgia for them. Mothra will and always will be my favourite kaiju. I sincerely hope they do continue the Monsters verse. I want to see more Moth Queen.
I kinda like the Mothra x Godzilla, I’ve seen a lot of adorable fan art of it and it’s cute as heck.
Ah, a nice retrospective on モスラ to cap off the week. Thanks, Bob!
I feel like people reacted really well to Mothra in KotM, I hope Legendary sees potential in giving her a solo film of her own, especially with CGI giving her a bit more range of motion than the puppets ever could.
I don't really see how they could do a standalone Mothra movie, now that she's already introduced into the series. The issue is that she's one of the weaker kaiju, so it would be difficult to come up with a credible threat that would make for an interesting movie without having everyone wonder why Godzilla or Kong doesn't show up to help.
@@jasonblalock4429 oh I’m sure they could think of something. While Mothra’s dead have Battra swoop in and take over her territory (infants island and the South Pacific islands). Mothra has to fight and reclaim her territory and save her tribe and priestesses. Why don’t Godzilla or Kong help? Well the conflict could be happening at the same time as Godzilla vs Kong or directly after and the two are resting. To beaten up to fight.
Not enough monsters? Well have Battra team up with Ebirah of the deep. Battra strikes a deal with Ebirah that he can have the waters of the South Pacific but the island are all Battras. All in exchange for the extra mussel.
Still not enough monsters? Have Rodan and Mothra make amens and work together.
Call the movie Mothra Queen of the Monsters. Have it be a sequel to king of the Monsters.
I thought if all of this in a minute, I’m sure they could do something similar. Or even a Mothra prequel story or something, the possibilities are endless with this universe!
Also Mothra has soloed King Ghidorah in the past. Don’t underestimate the Moth Queen.
@@infiniteoctopaw Hm, adding Ebirah to the mix just sounds like the set for a Godzilla cameo. And honestly, I'd rather see a Godzilla/Mothra team up kaiju flick that's based on their established relationship from KOTM. Though nothing too shippy mind you.
Final Wars gave Mothra and Gigan a bit of a rivalry, so I'd capitalise on that, having this evil alien cyborg be the rival of a more magical and 'natural' entity repsresented by mothra
I like this. Could you do a video like this for King Ghidorah too?
The Rebirth of Mothra trilogy is so good.
Oh man, Godzilla vs Mothra/Godzilla and Mothra, my first ever proper kaiju movie. Still remember renting the VHS, not even at a public library, but a small mobile public library inside a modified RV b/c the new local library was under construction. So many good times. Not my favourite now, but it will always hold a special place in my heart. To this day, she's still my 2nd favourite kaiju, after the big G of course. Every time she appeared on screen in King of the Monsters, I was smiling, and was a big part about why I enjoyed it so much.
There was a mothra novel made before the 60s movie and damn do I want to find me a copy.
They say in GTTHM that the second larvae died, so the one in Destroy All Monsters would have to be from a later generation, given that it’s set in 1999.
Did Mothra just Moses the ocean?
Are you watching the Netflix Godzilla series?
I'm just dressing up in a rubber monster suit for the algorithm.
Finally, the movieBob wheelhouse I’ve been waiting for.
Mothra: A FAAAAAAAMILY Pict-chah!
Honestly as much as I love Godzilla and King Kong, Mothra has always been a favorite of mine because she's so benevolent and different. Like especially when we start interpreting these giant monsters of forces of nature/modern day gods it makes sense that at least one of them is like "Yeah these human things are pretty neat." Although I did interpret the KotM version as less literal and more naturalistic IE. These giant species were singles out of many and some had symbiotic relationships. Like it's implied the Mutos were Godzilla's natural prey, so I'd imagine if those hunted Mothras then Mothras and Godzillas would have been natural allies protecting each other.
I don't know how that Rebirth series completely passed me by. I'm gonna have to see if I can't find those for my collection.
Mothra has always been my favorite of the Kaiju.
Mothra was my favourite from King of the Monsters; there was a great contrast between the incredible bombast of other monsters with their own dangerous weather patterns, and Mothra comes in with calm, grandeur, and (comparative) silence. And hard proof that beautiful absolutely does mean unintimidating.
Mothra's more capable LOOKING update in KOTM had me stoked to see her again, hope she returns!
Really appreciate Bob's extensive knowledge of the Toho verse.
Maybe it's just the way Bob edits these and that's how the footage comes out but I love how the KotM clips seem to fit in stylistically with some of the more modren Toho era kaiju works.
I'd be down to see a modern day Mothra movie in the Monsterverse. Don't have it be a remake of the original, and maybe don't go as out there as the
Rebirth Trilogy, but a new story. As much as I'm liking the new Kong and Godzilla movies, variety is also always appreciated.
I've always liked Mothra (she was very different to other Monsters when i was a kid) but i freaking loved her in KotM's, also helped that that film looked so damn good whenever they showed the actual monsters, given them a awe factor that i felt was missing from Godzilla vs Kong.
Gotta thank magic the Gathering for introducing me to battra.
Also the continuity approach you're describing is basically how it works in Kamen Rider and Super Sentai and those still do just fine.
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ALWAYS Dinosaurs and Monkeys!!! Next movie a Triceratops VS a Giant Lemur.
Well, Guilala is a giant chicken. But chickens are just newfangled dinosaurs. Def down for moar Lemur. Maybe call it Loris Ipsum.
Personally I'm a big fan of jet Jaguar
I liked King of Monsters more but I really enjoyed KongvGodzilla and do want to see them try making the KaijuVerse.
I've watched the first 2 Mothra movies and I love them, specially Mothra vs Godzilla that is such a good movie
Slight correction here Bob: In Ghidorah the Three-Headed Monster, it's explicitly stated that one of the two Mothra twins from Mothra vs. Godzilla died in the interim. So the surviving twin is the one in Sea Monster grown up and presumably lays an egg that hatches into the Destroy All Monsters larva. Still, an excellent look into one of Toho's most famous kaiju.
Firstly yes Mothra is queen of the monsters and a stand-alone film would be pretty awesome.
That said, there is another female coded kaiju that should get a film (or at least a role in one), Ogra (not to be confused with Orga) from the British kaiju film Gorgo. I have no idea who holds the IP on her, if anyone still does, but given the monster-verse has both completely crazy logic yet tries to make a kaiju ecosystem it'd be super easy to simply have her as a female of Godzilla's species and handwave the differences as sexual dimorphism (eg she's bigger and has ear like crests but no radioactive breath or back spikes).
Also because Gorgo could be summed up as; humans capture baby kaiju, mother kaiju flattens Britain's navy and most of London to rescue him it would be an oppotunity to add Godzilla Jr into the mix and maybe do a more solo "giant monster is scary" film whilst keeping said monster sympathetic and maybe throw in a climactic fight at the end (say for example Mothra flies in to protect the humans, fights Ogra to a draw and they reach some sort of understanding).
TL;DR Do a Gorgo remake, include Mothra for better results.
Godzilla vs Mothra was the first Godzilla movie I ever saw, and as such, she is my favourite and I will always love her.
Aside from Godzilla himself, Mothra is my next most favorite kaiju ever.
Mothra is best girl. All hail the queen!
Like a Giant moth to the atomic breath, I have come...
You gotta remember that Mothra Leo is fucking bullshit powerful. The dude can rip through space and time. I love it.
Mothra Best Girl.
Mothra: Best thing about any monster movie she's in... and also any monster movie she's NOT in.
3:07 oh Wow. That is just wrong. If I was mothra, I'd be staging a rescue too
I still have nightmares about Motha’s new design. Those damn legs man. They trigger a phobia I didn’t know I had.
Mothra is so cute !
I like how, while the other kaiju swing back and forth on moral compass, Mothra is always good.
Watching this in preparation for renting Godzilla v Kong tonight with my question filled daughters.
confused guy at 8:07 - basically me, watching _any_ toho film.
I would say that the lax approach to world building is what makes the monsterverse the only universe other than the MCU work
I just wanted to let who it may concern know that I've been given the opportunity to safely go to a movie theater this weekend, possibly more than once, so you bet I'll be watching Godzilla vs Kong this weekend.
I have always liked mothra and I hope we get more of her in the future
I unapologetically love Mothra.
I would totally pay $5 a month for an all Toho streaming service where you could just watch all this stuff easily
If it helps, there are a number of the old Godzilla movies on the Criterion Channel (streaming service like Netflix). All the Showa Era ones, anyway (the first era, which is the silliest but a lot of fun).
i actually would like to see mothra have more screen time -also yes bring back those 2 as the new priestesses of mothra.
I am just glad that we, as Western Civilization, have gone back to making cheesy giant monster movies. We've taken WAY too long of a break from that.
Love this series
I love the stabby insect arms of current Mothra. She can keep coming back.
5:29 Oh, look! Cross-over episode with John Carpenter!
I'm guessing 'Battra' is named that after 'batta', the japanese word for grasshoppers. Isn't it some sort of locust?
It's actually a portmanteau of "Battle" and "Mothra".
@@AdamYJ that makes sense! Though, I wouldn't put it part the Japanese to stack multiple puns and wordplay into a single name...
Basically what we are saying is more Mothra please!
Man the Heisei movies really liked their energy beams
See now I just want Godzilla vs. The Thing to actually be a thing. As in "John Carpenter's The Thing".
Although I'd take him vs. Ben Grimm also.
I wanna see it too, but I'm also really skeptical on how that would work.
@@erubin100 My idea is, essentially... justify this as the movie of "Godzilla vs. Godzilla".
...Have The Thing turn into SHIN GODZILLA.
... check out a comic called "godzilla in hell" for a taste of how that might go
Cool video!
#SaveMothra
I think I understand why Bob's niece likes Mothra so much (he mentioned it on Twitter, she's a bby kaiju fan)
Okay, I have to find that Mothra rebirth trilogy.
Hail Mothra, our resplendent lady!
10:44 maybe it's a spiritual thing.
Blood for the blood god, skulls for the skull throne, comments for the algorithm!
No bob, the 2000s era mothra appearances were not jut nostalgic references to the original. Only Tokyo SOS. GMK and Final Wars both completely reimagine mothra's lore. The shobijin aren't even in GMK, and Mothra never had a rivalry with Gigan before.
One interesting thing to point out is that in the Rebirth of Mothra trilogy, Mothra Leo the main monster in the trilogy is male instead of being female like all the other Mothra's. It is interesting to see what a male version of Mothra looks like and he does have a cool design but it is a shame that the most well know female kaiju finally got her own standalone movies after decades of being in Godzilla movies gets replaced by a male version in the first of three movies.
Godzilla is probably the best-known kaiju, who I grew up assuming was female because of the eggs, Minya, etc. There's only one, who they refer to as male - yet somehow eggs occaisionally appear, so Occam's razor etc.
Waiting for them to tackle in the monster verse the numerous aliens in the godzilla series that trick or mind control monsters
I'll be honest, I like having the "monsterverse" as a bit dumb (but not insultingly so like say TRANSFORMERS) but very entertaining thing I can hope for more of.
Wait, are we calling her Zee Ee Zang now? I followed her career quite closely back in the 00's, and everyone in my circles (practically none of whom had more than a rudimentary knowledge of Chinese) knew to put her name in "East Asian" order and knew that the "zh" in Zhang was pronounced differently from the "z" in Ziyi.
Left out one of the weirdest parts; she is explicitly linked with Christianity. Her sign is literally a crucifix.
9:04 Uh, did Mothra just part the Red Sea and lead out heroes away from a pyramid (Egypt)?
One of the big reasons I don't like most kaiju films - and which is fairly encapsulated in this Mothra stuff - is that it's like cheering watching a nature documentary. If Godzilla, Mothra, Gamera etc are these big animals, watching them get beat up is really just sad and heartbreaking. Even these clips of the big stupid puppets getting shot by fake lasers makes me feel bad for the moth. Watching Mothra DIE is KotM was awful.
9:10 - I don't know what that is but I know that I want it
One of many strong female characters that inspire me, along with the Xenomorph queen and the T-rex from Jurassic Park.
Can you talk about the “mst3k” kickstart that was announced?
Mothra grows into you.
A giant Cicada would make great monster. They crawl out of the earth and then they fly. Screaming.