Just rewatched this on the news that Chapek is being ousted as CEO because they're bringing back Iger (most likely as a form of damage control). It's still absurdly hilarious to have seen happen.
Not TOO much of a shock, is it? Chapek was always living on borrowed time after his blunders. The board just wanted to wait for the right moment to oust him.
He was the worst pick out of bunch of bad choices. Former head of the hotels, his go-to power move was to make everything as cheap as it could be to the point that the VIPs who came year after year started to notice how chintzy everything had become. The reason people wanted him out of that position was it was impacting park performance! So you make him the head of everything??? Dumb, dumb, dumb.
@@h3lldr0p It's called being "Kicked Upstairs." You give the idiot the promotion to the largely ceremonial/oversight position, where he can't do all that much damage.
The only damage this bad pr will do is to Disney's relationship with the politicians they were giving public money to in order to get political favors. Even then all this means is that they'll stop donating for a few months then when they start coming out with their next series of MCU films and everyone loves them again they'll start hiring politicians kids/cousins/etc to be extras or staff and give them cushy jobs as an apology. Nobody Disney wants to give money to in order to get political favors is going to go without that money for long.
Chapek is now officially walking on VERY thin ice thanks to his PR blunders. Can we just appreciate the kind of specialness it takes to be HATED by both sides of THIS particular culture war front? CEOs are a lot easier to replace than, say, Kevin Feige...a fact that will haunt Chapek from here on out.
@@HandofOmega I'd like to think he's a better human being than Gendo. Now, if you can have Asuka's English VA on the phone with one of your friends because he's at a different convention than you, and she's tearing into him, IN CHARACTER, as to why he's not there, complete with "WHAT ARE YOU, STUPID?" and not fall to the floor laughing....you have more willpower than I did, because I was punching the floor.
When you're so bad at running a business that your attempt to be in the middle and stay out of the spotlight to please both sides backfires so spectacularly that you have to pick a side that will put you at odds with the political party who will cut your taxes and depower unions and remove workers rights. It's like those odd comedies where the main character accidentally does the right thing when they were actively either trying to do the wrong thing or run and hide away from the situation. Before all this I knew of a few people who were trying to defend him and saying give him a chance but now I don't think that you'd find many arguing that he should remain in charge, all he seems to do is create PR nightmares and not show up/be forced to events, sure they may have been great at their previous job but they clearly aren't cut out for their current role.
As someone who follows the Disney Parks (the part of the Disney company he came from as head of that division) I can tell you he was not, in fact, great at his previous job.
@@KnightMc3 No he wasn't, but the parks still made a LOT of money and expanded. It doesn't matter as to -why- they expanded (like outside forces, the entire Disney brand being a big ad for the parks, the new parks being built due to other disney sector decisions.) He was the one in charge of the place that got expanded and made more money. And that's all these people look at whenever they put someone in charge. "Oh it looks like you made more money." "Yes it does look like that." "You sonovabitch you got the job."
@@SgtKaneGunlock My pleasure...it's a good analogy for any would-be reformer or upstart who thinks they can do better but forgets too many of the rules and conditions that got them where they are.
I think of the first half as more "Coming Attractions", trailers to the main event, laced with apologies on why they have yet to happen (i.e. shit refuses to settle long enough to get the analysis in).
Us theme park-heads could've warned everyone that Chapek was an awful choice for CEO...not that Iger was great for the parks, either, but the guy was ruthless and efficient enough that people just fawned over his acquisitions. Chapek, though, is another level in pure "ugh, this guy". Penny pinching, no regard for the treatment of the customer, stuffing sterile buzzwords down your throat in lieu of an actual creative product...again, not *terribly* different from Iger, but somehow an order of magnitude worse.
"a company was forced to do the right thing because the boss was too stupid to do the wrong thing with subtlety" That statement hit hard... You gotta be smart to do business. Evil to have perfect image. And stupid to be caught out to be controlled by the public into doing the right thing. God I hate modern business practices 🥺
@@blaster915 No one is served by such nostalgic delusions. Look at the history honestly, acknowledge the truth of what you see and act accordingly. Anything else is poisonous self-harm.
Are you some kind of loggerhead? The Walt Disney Company wasn't forced to do the right thing. They were perverted beyond recognition by Bob Iger's hiring practices. The activists infected the company like a virus under him, and it continued under Chapek.
I find it funny that Disney is now forced to take a side because Chapek couldn't pick no side with subtlety. He could probably have gotten away with not picking a side, if he hadn't tried to publicly not pick a side.
Wait until right-wing circles watch The Owl House and see an openly bisexual protagonist be all cutesy with her on-screen girlfriend? They’re going to lose it at all the fanart.
Too bad that basically cost that show its full third season and any future seasons in the process, because god forbid Disney risks offending bigots with their.... childrens cartoon.
@@jadedheartsz it was reportedly a Disney exec who thought it "didn't fit with the brand". probably using the same dumb ass logic of this genius of a CEO. In fact If I didn't know any better (and I don't. I don't know every executive personally) I would say that unnamed exec is in fact also said CEO. But that is a conspiracy theory and fuck conspiracy theories.
There's something deliciously satisfying about Disney's CEO finding himself in a no-win situation of his own making, doubly so because it's a situation he deliberately tried to avoid: by not picking a side, which in his mind meant he could theoretically appeal to both sides, he wound up being the target of both sides. It really is surreal to watch this play out, like, it's not just fans and potential customers, people within Disney are actively rebelling against this dumbass! It's incredible!
"To take a position of neutrality is to take the side of the oppressor." --Archbishop Desmond Tutu But yeah... Chapek just had to hang the rainbow-flags in Orlando, and this all could have been over with barely a feather ruffled. But instead Bobby Blubber-Brain wanted to have his cake and eat it too... and he'll be eatin' crow for a while because of it.
@@jimdotbeep Are you referring to his stint as President Of Hotels, where his cost-cutting measures caused the resorts to be so chintzy that people started complaining, which caused the rest of Disney to kick the big dummy upstairs to his current position, where presumably he wouldn't cause as much damage? Yeah, THAT went over like a lead balloon, didn't it? Chapek will likely be looking for a new job soon... and the deliciously dark irony of it all is that not only do GOOD people rightly despise him for trying to have his cake and eat it too, but the Neo-Nazis and the Grand Ol' Patriarchy won't be taking any more money from a company "so clearly on the dole from George Soros." Hell, not even a week after this nonsense went down, Ben Shapiro announced that his fashy propaganda-factory, The Daily Wire, would be producing children's media "to counter the obvious woke-propaganda of Soros-controlled Disney." And all because some idiot tried to play both sides against the middle, causing people to pay more attention and right-wing knuckleheads to double-down on their conspiracy-theory nonsense.
He's a hired CEO not a founder CEO so he just repeats what the board and majority shareholders tell him too. He's the public scapegoat for the people in the back rooms no more no less.
As a fan of Kingdom Hearts & Owl House, thank you for using those clips, it's great to see some love for my fandoms. Please, I would love to see you do a followup on this disney situation when the dust finally settles. I was willing to give Chapek some slack for earlier decisions because park nerds blame the ceo for everything they don't like & he took over in the middle of a plague. But his response to that bill was about as stupid as you could get.
Fellow Owl House fan reporting in... yeah, it's nice that Bob gave us our propers. As for "giving Chapek slack..." nah, the only slack I gave was to the people working under him. People like Dana Terrace, Alex Hirsch, Dan Povenmire, Matt Braly, Kevin Feige, Domee Shi and all those other fine folks at Pixar, Disney and Disney Television Animation working their butts off to give us quality content. My reaction to Chapek is best encapsulated by Homer finally givin' Mr. Burns the business. "NOBODY likes you, ya greedy old reptile!"
@@Launchpad05 Ugh... you again. Bugger off, man-baby... no one cares about your unhinged ramblings about the Bilderbergs or "Spirit Cooking," whatever the hell that means this week.
@@haltopen12 And apparently his propensity to expect a dollar's change out of seventy-five pence is what got him "Kicked Upstairs." That's where you give the incompetent idiot a promotion to a largely ceremonial/oversight position where the dummy can't do that much damage.
Any time a thing like this with the Disney CEO happens I'm reminded of a scene from the movie/play Inherit the Wind. Quick synopsis is that's a dramatization of the 1925 Monkey Scopes trial that dealt with science vs evolution. In the movie, a newspaper reporter asks the local hot dog vendor in town what his opinion is on the controversial matter to which the vendor responds: "I ain't got no opinions - they're bad for business!" I feel like every would be business exec should be required to watch this scene as a part of their education.
Beautiful... this video made me feel 5 years younger (seriously, I know that it sounds like something an spambot would said, but hearing how Disney's CEO self-inmolated himself out of cheer incompetence was suprisingly re-envigorating)
@@johnathonhaney8291 Good thing they've never taken COVID seriously. If Deltacron does become a real thing to worry about and it reaches Florida, all these antivaxxed twips will be taken out like (snap) that.
@@dudere Oh, for certain...just want to make people remember that there are human beings who WILL be impacted by some of the uglier players involved in this drama (and to be clear, DeathSantis' actions makes Chapek's cluelessness look as good as Sofia Vergara by contrast).
I think the real lesson here is the power of labor organizing itself to get a desired outcome. What started as a simple culture war turned into a labor war when Pixar workers told Disney to get fucked. Only then did we see any actual change.
I thought the funniest thing in the whole saga was the angry people who claim "oh yea well I'll make my own Disney, but only pandering to people who share my views". Then Bob points out there is so much to laugh at in this much wider mess. Thank you Bob.
Love the Owl House clips, would love to hear your thoughts on the series! Dana Terrace has been vocal about their ongoing conflict with the D's higher ups about the queer rep
@@lapislazuli5035 God, it would be AMAZING if this somehow led to the Owl House getting an expansion. Disney has already suffered bad PR from DRASTICALLY shortening it's third season. I imagine it's too late to just make Season 3 longer, but an extra season might be well appreciated.
@@rhymebeat1142 The problem is that they were already kind of working on the assumption they'd only have three seasons anyway. If they made a fourth season they'd have to introduce new plot threats to wrap up.
My understanding of Owl House is that it has less to do with LGBTQ+ representation and more to do with Disney moving away from series with long-term story-telling. They want episodic story-telling where the episodes can be scrambled into any order and no one can tell the difference. Having a larger continuity is hard and not worth the effort in their eyes. I'm not in their target audience so I can't say if it's a good business decision.
Gushin' Granny walked so that Boaty McBoatface could run so that Flash could enter the speed force. Oh shit, that's a banger, I'm literally cut-pasting that to Twitter next
Our Mr. Chipman has the same misguided faith in James Cameron as he does Zack Snyder. So what if Cameron is playing at being Howard Hughes in his perfectionism? It's going to work out, he thinks...and I don't agree.
Oh, it's coming out alright. There's a confirmed release date for next year. The thing is, no one gives a shit about an Avatar sequel. The film was hyped up in 2009, grossed over a billion bucks, and was quickly forgotten like a bad meal by the turn of the next decade.
Aren't there like 4 sequels or some such? Have I been mis reading that for like a decade that he's working on a couple of avatar sequels simultaneously? I mean , I have no urge to see any more avatar movies but still
Ya know forget the basic ethics of it for a moment; How did someone who got to the position of boss of the most powerful company on the planet get there while being *this* bad at basic P.R.? At the very least DeSantis has a powerful enemy now.
He's been with the company forever, ran the parks division which is the biggest most important part in terms of finances, was already Iger's chosen successor and the parks division DIDNT collapse during Covid so that sealed it. On paper he made complete sense. The issue seems to be that a year or so before the handoff, he had a HUGE falling out with Iger over some petty "Oh, they don't think I can do it!?" ego trip re: Iger staying around to consult for awhile during transition, which blew-up the dynamic between their teams and he didn't learn a WHOLE MESS of stuff it turns out he needed to about doing "The Steve Jobs Thing" as a public figure CEO
@@moviebobcentral In other words, Mr. Chipman, he let ego bring out his worst instincts...ugh. That NEVER ends well and certainly this time looks to be no exception.
I tend to go with the sort of special case of the Peter Principle, that factors in inertia. Some people gain so much momentum in their rise to their level of incompetence that they sail way above it, and end up like a turtle on a pole.
Wow, there was SO MUCH in this episode. How did you fit all that in 12 minutes? Seriously, what you covered here could have been like 3 different 15 minute episodes...also, I want to watch ALL OF THEM.
Say what you want about Eisner and Iger, but they sure knew how to ride that horse. Chapek just manages to constantly stand at one of the two wrong ends.
I'd argue that Chapek is only more inept than Kotick, but Kotick is actually worse because of all the people he's hurt. Might be splitting hairs, though.
Just because "Weird Al" Yankovic made a song called Dare To Be Stupid, that doesn't mean you should be doing the stupid things that went down these past few weeks.
3:16 And even THAT, Mr. Chipman, was overshadowed by The Slap Heard Around The World (the latter of which I still file under "Instant Karma"). Edit: And you mention that moment at the 5:00 mark...serves me right for jumping the James Gunn!
@@johnathonhaney8291 yeah... I'll have to admit the comment woulda been better using Iger, but I went off the top of my head instead of putting too much brain power into it. As a result, I remembered Eisner instead. ((Probably because of when he hosted the Disney Movie of the week on NBC back in the late 80s.))
@@Estolcles Yeah, I remember that about Eisner too, as I am in that age bracket myself. My favorite Eisner story still remains the one Leonard Nimoy told about wanting to Star Trek III when Eisner was still head of Paramount. As Nimoy put it, "You'd have thought he was my agent instead of a studio executive."
Eisner made one very big mistake (Eurodisney) that crippled the company's cashflow and expansion ambitions, leading to basically everything else the company did for a decade being put on a budget. Nobody *wanted* Budget Disney, but he had more or less been backed into a corner where it was all he could do. In contrast, Chapek just seems to be a plain-'ol idiot.
Great breakdown. I must admit I cant help but be taken away by little flights of fancy, thinking about a world were disney buys fox news to stop them being so anti corporate, sanatises it, and then pays for the fairness in news act to be reintroduced in congress to properly kill the monster.
Considering that it's been running for as long as it has, it would be surprising if you couldn't pull an almost complete text of Moby Dick out of the series.
Yep... Chapek beefed this one so hard, once again I'm hearing in my head the immortal words of the late, great William Hurt in "A History Of Violence." "...How do you f*ck that up? HOW!? DO YOU F*CK THAT UP!?"
That meme is perennial when it comes to this century's stupidity thus far. RIP Hurt, the problematic professional whom I shall always remember for Dark City.
@@johnathonhaney8291 "Lost In Space"(1998) for me... yeah, say what ya want about the crappy CGI spider-monster, I still loved that movie when I were a lad in high-school.
@@thetribunaloftheimaginatio5247 Buddy, you know there's no judgement with me on that sort of thing, right? And Hurt was the best thing about that film.
@@johnathonhaney8291 Between him, Gary Oldman honoring the late, great Jonathan Harris as Dr. Smith and Dick Tufeld reprising his role as the robot. I loved the revamped version of Robot... mainly because I'm a sucker for Robot Buddies.
The LGBTQ Disney Walkout is unlikely to result in employee protests in the “on stage” areas of the parks, but the associated work stoppages and sick-outs could result in longer than usual lines for attractions and food stands at Disneyland and Disney California Adventure.
literally only ONE person showed up to the protest at the Florida offices. the workers that showed up at the California offices did one lap around the office and the just went back to work. This is an astroterf movement.
@@foristrothbert568 Nonsense. Someone who takes a neutral position between firefighters and arsonists is someone who is, ultimately, OK with houses being burned down. They are either disinterested in the "is it OK to set houses on fire" debate, or they are tacitly approving of it but don't want to appear so. Not every debate works this way, but there are irreconcilable issues where there isn't a "neutral" position, where the status quo is that people are being harmed.
"Apolitical" in these days usually yeah means you have far right unpopular ideas and you are aware how unpopular and bad they are, but you still want to soapbox and use your status to spread them.
As somebody with zero knowledge of the oscars, movie industry going-ons or celebrity whatevers, I feel like I could have watched the first half of this clip in, say, Swahili and taken about as much away from it as it did just now. But thankfully Bob manages to bring things around and establishes some sense of order by the end of it.
"Too stupid to do the wrong thing with subtlety." Isn't that what made Trump get the support of all the bigots? That he was saying all the bigotted things that the regular Republicans only dog-whistled about? Maybe Chapek tried to do the corporate-liberal equivalent and found out that that isn't how shit works on what us Americans laughably call The Left.
@@johnathonhaney8291 Pretty much. Also, clearly this person we're replying to is one of those would-be Robespierres whose plans to improve the common good begin and end with "Murder All The Rich People And Take Their Stuff." Yeah, don't anybody @ me with "Liberal" as a curse-word or "Democrats Are Just As Bad As Republicans!" No the hell they are not. But don't bother explaining that to this person, who believes "Everyone's a Nazi! Except me, of course, because I sleep with a copy of 'Capital' under my pillow!"
5:02 I mean, out of that lineup I think Jim Carrey had a good point, at least. It's basically a tautology, but he wasn't wrong. Also, I think Disney being forced into the culture war was probably inevitable. They're too big to have kept up the act forever. But I expected they'd hold out at least another decade or two.
Yeah, seriously. They own 37% of the entertainment industry now, on top of obviously all other aspects related to business. This kind of f'up was inevitable for a company THAT big , THAT greedy and that divorced from reality.
Huh. Well, as someone who proclaims to be an ally, I won't look a gift mouse in the mouth. Doing the right thing because you were forced to is still better than NOT doing the right thing...
A quote attributed to Churchill: "You can always count on Americans to do the right thing after they've exhausted every other option." So it often is with big companies.
4:00 I'm still rooting for Snyder to get to do his long-desired adaptation of The Fountainhead at some point, because it will be a glorious clusterfuck and I've already got a camp boner just thinking about it. Plus the unspeakably delicious irony of it being adapted by exactly the sort of mediocre 'second-hander' that Rand wrote The Fountainhead to denounce. (To be clear: this isn't me promoting Rand's ideals. This is me giggling at the absolute horror she'd have at the very idea of "Zack Snyder's Ayn Rand's The Fountainhead." Because I'm a petty bastard.)
I've no love left for Snyder myself but lack your pettiness. At this point, I just want him to go away and am indifferent as to where. Mostly, it's because I suspect that he used the DCEU toxics far more than Mr. Chipman wants to admit but that may be unfair on my part.
The Cyborg subplot in Zack Snyder's Justice League already would have put him on her list of enemies already. I genuinely don't get what Snyder sees in her works.
@@johnathonhaney8291 I think you misunderstood my point. The Cyborg subplot has him using his powers to do things like transferring money to a single mother about to lose her home as an act of anonymous kindness. It's an act of actual heroism that is against everything Rand stood for, as well as Snyder's typical attitudes.
No, a decent CEO would have known not to aggro not only substantial parts of his fanbase but maker creative people in his own company. A decent CEO would realize that, in the modern day, loudly proclaiming that you're not taking a stand on an issue *is* taking a stand on that issue. The lesson is that only incompetence can force major corporations to change tactics.
Did not know that the Most Cheer Worthy Scenes was voted on by the internet, it makes sense now. I spent much time wondering both why Luke blowing up the Death Star wasn't even on it at all, AND why the Flash moment instead of, say, Superman showing up to smack down Steppenwolf...(Wait, could fans choose any moment from those movies? So, enough people thought *that bit* was good enough to warrant singling it out?? Huh...) Also, did *anyone* cheer Neo's bullet dodge?? Defeating Agent Smith, I could see, but that scene...?
I'll freely admit I voted for the Justice League scene because I legit like that film and it was the best out of all the options there IMO, but I had no clue you could vote more then once.
@@JnEricsonx Even more recent: The crowd went wild at Batman starting up his car...Wait, let me rephrase that: The new Batmobile's engine growling out of the shadows, shaking the entire theater like a maddened beast that just crawled its way out of Hell, headlights stabbing out of the darkness like the fiery gaze of the medusa herself...Hell, I want to see the movie in IMAX just for that scene alone!
And this doesn't even touch on the newest development where Florida is kicking around repealing the Reedy Creek Improvement Act and actually has a crazy enough government to go through with it.
I keep asking for Bugs Bunny or Palpatine or Gaea or SOMEONE to just cut it off at the panhandle so it won't bother us anymore. I am BEYOND sick of these idiots dragging America and by extension the whole world down with their uselessness.
I know WB keeps making bad moves, but I will be really just... depressed when/if WB archive closes, all the other companies barely release their back catalog and WB is the only one I've ever been able to get odder movies from, and the only reason I was able to completely watch Night Court.
Bob Iger is sitting in his study with a cigar, a glass of scotch, and a big smile on his face while all this happens. "One more fuck-up and they'll be _begging_ me to come back."
Another big factor is employees: Disney makes musicals & princess fashion & live entertainment. The creative side has always had a lot of gays & they are really pissing them off. Old Disney always stuck its neck out for the gays a little by having partner benefits & unofficial gay days, but never said anything politically, but if there's a big backlash & a lot of people are already upset about the lack of gay content in your movies, this plays out differently.
Also worth mentioning while Disney generally gives money to all sides, the gave way more money to Republicans in Florida the previous cycle, likely trying to get the parks open.
@@HandofOmega hmm if I'm thinking of time honored classics that everyone agrees are amazing but don't seem to get talked about alot beyond "woohoo this is great' I pick My Neighbor Totoro.
Fascinating. This has been talking point at the office lately, and I was hearing a lot of conflicting things. This was able to clear up a few of them, however I don't think the last few questions I have will be answered in this comment section. Oh well, at least I have an idea of what people are talking about now.
With the money they pay these top execs you'd think companies would have better standards to picking out good ones and quicker to pin problems on them.
The only thing Chapek did right was making Star for international Disney+ instead of releasing Hulu worldwide like Iger intended. This is going to be a short lived CEO. Iger should have stayed until mid 20s as previously planned.
Weird, how 'grooming a boring dude who was good at raising profits on merch' to vault into the seat of a transformatively modern and diverse media company - was a bad idea. Kathleen Kennedy would have made a better exec... and faceplanted in shit 100% less. ALSO - remember this is the guy who decided he could win a popularity contest against Scarlet Johansson. And close and consolidate a BUNCH of his white collar folks by MAKING them have to move from LA to Florida or lose their jobs! The MOMENT the Shareholders have someone who can step in - he is out. You watch.
Your prediction is a fairly safe bet. And you didn't even mention the part where he started beefing with Iger, arguably the start of his long line of mistakes.
The concept this overpromoted-bro would turn around and bite Iger is INSANE! Like... does this dude not know the board STILL WANTS IGER? Cmon Bob. Come back for five. Groom a human with a soul (and preferably one who is not the same gender-race as they last 10 Presidents) and leave a REAL legacy... before the company has to do something ugly. I mean. Its ALL going to be ugly, so there is no avoiding that now.
But Kathleen Kennedy fired actress Gina Carano for her public right wing political statements, which is a form of political persecution (I am left leaning btw). This stupid and pointless action has cost Disney Plus a lot of subscriptions, including mine.
2:27 oh yeah. I remember Amazon Prime's Cinderella. I think I dislike it more now than when I watched the movie. 5:02 that's the slap everyone is talking about? Really? Wow, I care even less now.
My thought on the slap are well-worn cliches: "fuck with the bull, get the horns", "paybacks are hell" and "what were you expecting?" Oh and "be glad it was Will because Jada would have made you very dead."
This was genuinely a list of "Something something something" and I somehow followed all of it. It was genuinely the most pure river of thought I've ever heard. Good on you Bob for managing to convey most of that plot through sheer feeling and ordering.
I really can't understand how Chapek got to be CEO without already understanding how these things work. Those political donations have been flowing for so long they're on direct deposit at this point. And especially in Florida where the politicians are batshiat crazy, and through the whole disaster that has been the Republican party for the last half century since Watergate, you'd think they'd all understand that all communication about these issues is crisis communication and it needs to be handled as such to minimize exposure and damage. He should have the pre-approved canned response to any of these questions on a laminated card glued to the desk in front of his phone from day 1. What a clown show. I'd call it looney tunes, but that's Warner Brothers.
I can only imagine what Walt Disney, who spent so much time and energy into putting Disneyworld in Florida, would have thought of DeSantis treating the state's biggest employer like this.
Oh, there are parts of it that are there: Denver, Mr. Chipman's native Boston. It's just too many other places waiting on Boomers to die off that are the holdouts.
Nah, culture went woke because of Me Too and Time' Up. The guys were like, oh damn, I banged that chick and I can fired for it, and I told that chick, No!, and I could get fired for it, so I'll save my own skin and join the agenda rebellion.
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All that review was missing was the Simpsons clip:
“Marge? Was that a good ending or a bad ending?”
“It’s an ending. That’s enough.”
I'm pretty sure he used that one fairly recently.
@@YellowMage True. But if one clip ever felt appropriate for this week...
Oh, we haven't seen the end yet. The fallout is still playing.
Just rewatched this on the news that Chapek is being ousted as CEO because they're bringing back Iger (most likely as a form of damage control). It's still absurdly hilarious to have seen happen.
Not TOO much of a shock, is it? Chapek was always living on borrowed time after his blunders. The board just wanted to wait for the right moment to oust him.
@@johnathonhaney8291 The Scarlett Johansson feud was Strike 1, the Florida fiasco was strike 2, the q4 earnings call was strike 3.
This episode covered two broad subjects.
0:00 The audience vote at the Academy Awards
5:20 Bob Chapek's disastrous PR
Thanks
It's been pretty interesting watching how terrible Chapek is at his job.
He was the worst pick out of bunch of bad choices. Former head of the hotels, his go-to power move was to make everything as cheap as it could be to the point that the VIPs who came year after year started to notice how chintzy everything had become. The reason people wanted him out of that position was it was impacting park performance! So you make him the head of everything??? Dumb, dumb, dumb.
@@h3lldr0p It's called being "Kicked Upstairs." You give the idiot the promotion to the largely ceremonial/oversight position, where he can't do all that much damage.
The only damage this bad pr will do is to Disney's relationship with the politicians they were giving public money to in order to get political favors. Even then all this means is that they'll stop donating for a few months then when they start coming out with their next series of MCU films and everyone loves them again they'll start hiring politicians kids/cousins/etc to be extras or staff and give them cushy jobs as an apology.
Nobody Disney wants to give money to in order to get political favors is going to go without that money for long.
Instead of rolling in dough, they are living from Chapek to Chapek
@@voltijuice8576 HEY-O! That was clever.
Between this and the way they handled the situation with Scarlett Johansson, Chapek is really batting 1000 since he took over.
Yeeah, he consistently puts his finger in the light socket, don't he?
yeah bet all the people bitching about Eisner look REALLY stupid now eh?
Anyone with X years of experience does not translate to having an IQ higher than the average shoe size.
@@johnathonhaney8291 More like wraps his pecker in tin foil, then sticks it into the light socket.
@@chwenhoou I always put it like this: you can skeet shoot for 20 years and still not hit a damn thing.
Chapek is now officially walking on VERY thin ice thanks to his PR blunders. Can we just appreciate the kind of specialness it takes to be HATED by both sides of THIS particular culture war front? CEOs are a lot easier to replace than, say, Kevin Feige...a fact that will haunt Chapek from here on out.
FYI, Feige is gonna end up running Disney someday. Try to look surprised when it happens.
@@chwenhoou It's the logical endpoint for a corporate lifer like him...which is probably why he's currently picking out successors over at Marvel.
@@johnathonhaney8291 Hard not to imagine him smiling, Gendo Ikari-style..."It's Feige-time!"
@@chwenhoou Shit, I'll raise a glass to him.
@@HandofOmega I'd like to think he's a better human being than Gendo. Now, if you can have Asuka's English VA on the phone with one of your friends because he's at a different convention than you, and she's tearing into him, IN CHARACTER, as to why he's not there, complete with "WHAT ARE YOU, STUPID?" and not fall to the floor laughing....you have more willpower than I did, because I was punching the floor.
Because watching conservative billionaires being forced to eat shit and smile about it is always the best kind of entertainment.
When you're so bad at running a business that your attempt to be in the middle and stay out of the spotlight to please both sides backfires so spectacularly that you have to pick a side that will put you at odds with the political party who will cut your taxes and depower unions and remove workers rights. It's like those odd comedies where the main character accidentally does the right thing when they were actively either trying to do the wrong thing or run and hide away from the situation.
Before all this I knew of a few people who were trying to defend him and saying give him a chance but now I don't think that you'd find many arguing that he should remain in charge, all he seems to do is create PR nightmares and not show up/be forced to events, sure they may have been great at their previous job but they clearly aren't cut out for their current role.
As someone who follows the Disney Parks (the part of the Disney company he came from as head of that division) I can tell you he was not, in fact, great at his previous job.
In terms of The Wire, he went full Stringer Bell. You NEVER go full Stringer Bell.
@@KnightMc3 No he wasn't, but the parks still made a LOT of money and expanded. It doesn't matter as to -why- they expanded (like outside forces, the entire Disney brand being a big ad for the parks, the new parks being built due to other disney sector decisions.) He was the one in charge of the place that got expanded and made more money. And that's all these people look at whenever they put someone in charge. "Oh it looks like you made more money." "Yes it does look like that." "You sonovabitch you got the job."
@@johnathonhaney8291 that is the best the wire based analogy ive ever heard thank you for that
@@SgtKaneGunlock My pleasure...it's a good analogy for any would-be reformer or upstart who thinks they can do better but forgets too many of the rules and conditions that got them where they are.
The first half plays more like a junk drawer episode; But tbh, most of that is stuff i missed (busy month too). Missed ya Bob
I think of the first half as more "Coming Attractions", trailers to the main event, laced with apologies on why they have yet to happen (i.e. shit refuses to settle long enough to get the analysis in).
That KH Mickey Mouse clip almost killed me. I haven't laughed like that in a while.
Us theme park-heads could've warned everyone that Chapek was an awful choice for CEO...not that Iger was great for the parks, either, but the guy was ruthless and efficient enough that people just fawned over his acquisitions. Chapek, though, is another level in pure "ugh, this guy". Penny pinching, no regard for the treatment of the customer, stuffing sterile buzzwords down your throat in lieu of an actual creative product...again, not *terribly* different from Iger, but somehow an order of magnitude worse.
"a company was forced to do the right thing because the boss was too stupid to do the wrong thing with subtlety"
That statement hit hard...
You gotta be smart to do business. Evil to have perfect image.
And stupid to be caught out to be controlled by the public into doing the right thing.
God I hate modern business practices 🥺
Oh, child, if you EVER thought that there was a time when Big Business was benign, I've some Chernobyl real estate to sell you.
@@johnathonhaney8291 guess it's just more apparent, just wish there was a time it was a good as we idealised it. Even in small pockets of business...
@@blaster915 No one is served by such nostalgic delusions. Look at the history honestly, acknowledge the truth of what you see and act accordingly. Anything else is poisonous self-harm.
Hurray. Progress fails Upwards.
Are you some kind of loggerhead? The Walt Disney Company wasn't forced to do the right thing. They were perverted beyond recognition by Bob Iger's hiring practices. The activists infected the company like a virus under him, and it continued under Chapek.
I find it funny that Disney is now forced to take a side because Chapek couldn't pick no side with subtlety. He could probably have gotten away with not picking a side, if he hadn't tried to publicly not pick a side.
Wait until right-wing circles watch The Owl House and see an openly bisexual protagonist be all cutesy with her on-screen girlfriend? They’re going to lose it at all the fanart.
Too bad that basically cost that show its full third season and any future seasons in the process, because god forbid Disney risks offending bigots with their.... childrens cartoon.
@@njrk97 actually I heard it got cut short cause of COVID.
@@jadedheartsz it was reportedly a Disney exec who thought it "didn't fit with the brand". probably using the same dumb ass logic of this genius of a CEO. In fact If I didn't know any better (and I don't. I don't know every executive personally) I would say that unnamed exec is in fact also said CEO. But that is a conspiracy theory and fuck conspiracy theories.
@@jadedheartsz that kinda sounds like a weak excuse. Imho. There are plenty of other shows that survived covid.
@@darkmyro I don't think it was cancelled for being "too gay" though.
There's something deliciously satisfying about Disney's CEO finding himself in a no-win situation of his own making, doubly so because it's a situation he deliberately tried to avoid: by not picking a side, which in his mind meant he could theoretically appeal to both sides, he wound up being the target of both sides. It really is surreal to watch this play out, like, it's not just fans and potential customers, people within Disney are actively rebelling against this dumbass! It's incredible!
Shorter version: it's nice to see the stupid bad guy lose for once. And I couldn't agree more!
"To take a position of neutrality is to take the side of the oppressor."
--Archbishop Desmond Tutu
But yeah... Chapek just had to hang the rainbow-flags in Orlando, and this all could have been over with barely a feather ruffled. But instead Bobby Blubber-Brain wanted to have his cake and eat it too... and he'll be eatin' crow for a while because of it.
he could have had a lot of the fabs on his side if he didn't fuck up the parks.
@@jimdotbeep Are you referring to his stint as President Of Hotels, where his cost-cutting measures caused the resorts to be so chintzy that people started complaining, which caused the rest of Disney to kick the big dummy upstairs to his current position, where presumably he wouldn't cause as much damage?
Yeah, THAT went over like a lead balloon, didn't it? Chapek will likely be looking for a new job soon... and the deliciously dark irony of it all is that not only do GOOD people rightly despise him for trying to have his cake and eat it too, but the Neo-Nazis and the Grand Ol' Patriarchy won't be taking any more money from a company "so clearly on the dole from George Soros." Hell, not even a week after this nonsense went down, Ben Shapiro announced that his fashy propaganda-factory, The Daily Wire, would be producing children's media "to counter the obvious woke-propaganda of Soros-controlled Disney."
And all because some idiot tried to play both sides against the middle, causing people to pay more attention and right-wing knuckleheads to double-down on their conspiracy-theory nonsense.
He's a hired CEO not a founder CEO so he just repeats what the board and majority shareholders tell him too.
He's the public scapegoat for the people in the back rooms no more no less.
As a fan of Kingdom Hearts & Owl House, thank you for using those clips, it's great to see some love for my fandoms. Please, I would love to see you do a followup on this disney situation when the dust finally settles. I was willing to give Chapek some slack for earlier decisions because park nerds blame the ceo for everything they don't like & he took over in the middle of a plague. But his response to that bill was about as stupid as you could get.
Fellow Owl House fan reporting in... yeah, it's nice that Bob gave us our propers. As for "giving Chapek slack..." nah, the only slack I gave was to the people working under him. People like Dana Terrace, Alex Hirsch, Dan Povenmire, Matt Braly, Kevin Feige, Domee Shi and all those other fine folks at Pixar, Disney and Disney Television Animation working their butts off to give us quality content. My reaction to Chapek is best encapsulated by Homer finally givin' Mr. Burns the business.
"NOBODY likes you, ya greedy old reptile!"
@@thetribunaloftheimaginatio5247 Nobody likes 'greedy old reptile' Joe Biden, either.
@@Launchpad05 Ugh... you again. Bugger off, man-baby... no one cares about your unhinged ramblings about the Bilderbergs or "Spirit Cooking," whatever the hell that means this week.
Chapek was in charge of the parks long before he became CEO, that was his division that he led before he was offered the top seat
@@haltopen12 And apparently his propensity to expect a dollar's change out of seventy-five pence is what got him "Kicked Upstairs." That's where you give the incompetent idiot a promotion to a largely ceremonial/oversight position where the dummy can't do that much damage.
Any time a thing like this with the Disney CEO happens I'm reminded of a scene from the movie/play Inherit the Wind. Quick synopsis is that's a dramatization of the 1925 Monkey Scopes trial that dealt with science vs evolution.
In the movie, a newspaper reporter asks the local hot dog vendor in town what his opinion is on the controversial matter to which the vendor responds: "I ain't got no opinions - they're bad for business!" I feel like every would be business exec should be required to watch this scene as a part of their education.
Beautiful... this video made me feel 5 years younger (seriously, I know that it sounds like something an spambot would said, but hearing how Disney's CEO self-inmolated himself out of cheer incompetence was suprisingly re-envigorating)
Glad you're getting SOMETHING positive out of this mess...sincerely. I say that because the lives being played with due to this bill are no joke.
*invigorating
@@johnathonhaney8291 Good thing they've never taken COVID seriously. If Deltacron does become a real thing to worry about and it reaches Florida, all these antivaxxed twips will be taken out like (snap) that.
@@johnathonhaney8291 Disney didn't create the bill, op is probably thankful Disney now has to come against it instead of saying nothing.
@@dudere Oh, for certain...just want to make people remember that there are human beings who WILL be impacted by some of the uglier players involved in this drama (and to be clear, DeathSantis' actions makes Chapek's cluelessness look as good as Sofia Vergara by contrast).
I think the real lesson here is the power of labor organizing itself to get a desired outcome. What started as a simple culture war turned into a labor war when Pixar workers told Disney to get fucked. Only then did we see any actual change.
That lightning round of the insanity of pop culture news had me rolling.
I thought the funniest thing in the whole saga was the angry people who claim "oh yea well I'll make my own Disney, but only pandering to people who share my views". Then Bob points out there is so much to laugh at in this much wider mess. Thank you Bob.
The usual troll suspects ALWAYS say that and ALWAYS fail. It never occurs as to why.
I’d love to see a follow up now that Bob Chapek is out as Disney’s CEO and Bob Iger came back.
The notification sound at 4:01 was driving me nuts. But very genuinely, this whole video was straight fire. Well done, well spoken, and appreciated.
Love the Owl House clips, would love to hear your thoughts on the series! Dana Terrace has been vocal about their ongoing conflict with the D's higher ups about the queer rep
Seconding the The Owl House love. It's such a stellar, stellar cartoon.
@@lapislazuli5035 God, it would be AMAZING if this somehow led to the Owl House getting an expansion. Disney has already suffered bad PR from DRASTICALLY shortening it's third season. I imagine it's too late to just make Season 3 longer, but an extra season might be well appreciated.
@@rhymebeat1142 The problem is that they were already kind of working on the assumption they'd only have three seasons anyway. If they made a fourth season they'd have to introduce new plot threats to wrap up.
My understanding of Owl House is that it has less to do with LGBTQ+ representation and more to do with Disney moving away from series with long-term story-telling. They want episodic story-telling where the episodes can be scrambled into any order and no one can tell the difference. Having a larger continuity is hard and not worth the effort in their eyes. I'm not in their target audience so I can't say if it's a good business decision.
Uh, Disney is suppose to be an entertainment company! Not a political organization fighting for 'groomer's rights!'
Gushin' Granny walked so that Boaty McBoatface could run so that Flash could enter the speed force.
Oh shit, that's a banger, I'm literally cut-pasting that to Twitter next
Bob, let’s not kid ourselves.
That “Avatar 2” ain’t never comin’ out
Our Mr. Chipman has the same misguided faith in James Cameron as he does Zack Snyder. So what if Cameron is playing at being Howard Hughes in his perfectionism? It's going to work out, he thinks...and I don't agree.
Oh, it's coming out alright. There's a confirmed release date for next year. The thing is, no one gives a shit about an Avatar sequel. The film was hyped up in 2009, grossed over a billion bucks, and was quickly forgotten like a bad meal by the turn of the next decade.
Aren't there like 4 sequels or some such? Have I been mis reading that for like a decade that he's working on a couple of avatar sequels simultaneously?
I mean , I have no urge to see any more avatar movies but still
@@jlev1028 True. But then again, they said the same thing about the original Avatar.
How long have I waited to see Bob make an actual _Kingdom Hearts_ reference in a video!
Ya know forget the basic ethics of it for a moment; How did someone who got to the position of boss of the most powerful company on the planet get there while being *this* bad at basic P.R.? At the very least DeSantis has a powerful enemy now.
DeathSantis stupidly thinks it's going to help him too. Is he in for a surprise...
He's been with the company forever, ran the parks division which is the biggest most important part in terms of finances, was already Iger's chosen successor and the parks division DIDNT collapse during Covid so that sealed it. On paper he made complete sense. The issue seems to be that a year or so before the handoff, he had a HUGE falling out with Iger over some petty "Oh, they don't think I can do it!?" ego trip re: Iger staying around to consult for awhile during transition, which blew-up the dynamic between their teams and he didn't learn a WHOLE MESS of stuff it turns out he needed to about doing "The Steve Jobs Thing" as a public figure CEO
@@moviebobcentral In other words, Mr. Chipman, he let ego bring out his worst instincts...ugh. That NEVER ends well and certainly this time looks to be no exception.
I tend to go with the sort of special case of the Peter Principle, that factors in inertia. Some people gain so much momentum in their rise to their level of incompetence that they sail way above it, and end up like a turtle on a pole.
Wow, there was SO MUCH in this episode. How did you fit all that in 12 minutes? Seriously, what you covered here could have been like 3 different 15 minute episodes...also, I want to watch ALL OF THEM.
Say what you want about Eisner and Iger, but they sure knew how to ride that horse. Chapek just manages to constantly stand at one of the two wrong ends.
It's incredible to me that there can be a worse CEO than Bobby Kotick. For different reasons mind you but the point stays.
My friend, NEVER say things can't get worse...because they always can. People too.
@@johnathonhaney8291 I never say it because they seem to see it as a challenge.
@@rog2224 Smart!
I'd argue that Chapek is only more inept than Kotick, but Kotick is actually worse because of all the people he's hurt. Might be splitting hairs, though.
Just because "Weird Al" Yankovic made a song called Dare To Be Stupid, that doesn't mean you should be doing the stupid things that went down these past few weeks.
Chipman boils it down perfectly once again
Thanks. That whole Florida thing was really confusing and murky before. Appreciate it.
3:16 And even THAT, Mr. Chipman, was overshadowed by The Slap Heard Around The World (the latter of which I still file under "Instant Karma").
Edit: And you mention that moment at the 5:00 mark...serves me right for jumping the James Gunn!
I mean.... who woulda ever thought we'd be at "Man, we really miss Michael Eisner. He was good."..... but. welp. Here we are.
In fairness, more people miss Iger and rightly so. But your point is well-taken.
@@johnathonhaney8291 yeah... I'll have to admit the comment woulda been better using Iger, but I went off the top of my head instead of putting too much brain power into it. As a result, I remembered Eisner instead. ((Probably because of when he hosted the Disney Movie of the week on NBC back in the late 80s.))
@@Estolcles Yeah, I remember that about Eisner too, as I am in that age bracket myself. My favorite Eisner story still remains the one Leonard Nimoy told about wanting to Star Trek III when Eisner was still head of Paramount. As Nimoy put it, "You'd have thought he was my agent instead of a studio executive."
Eisner and Iger had better business instincts.
Eisner made one very big mistake (Eurodisney) that crippled the company's cashflow and expansion ambitions, leading to basically everything else the company did for a decade being put on a budget. Nobody *wanted* Budget Disney, but he had more or less been backed into a corner where it was all he could do.
In contrast, Chapek just seems to be a plain-'ol idiot.
It was at 4:01 we all found out Bob had his Discord Notifications turned on during the recording of this video.
Great breakdown. I must admit I cant help but be taken away by little flights of fancy, thinking about a world were disney buys fox news to stop them being so anti corporate, sanatises it, and then pays for the fairness in news act to be reintroduced in congress to properly kill the monster.
Always an on point Simpsons reference when one needs one.
Considering that it's been running for as long as it has, it would be surprising if you couldn't pull an almost complete text of Moby Dick out of the series.
Bob really entered the speed force on this video!
Yep... Chapek beefed this one so hard, once again I'm hearing in my head the immortal words of the late, great William Hurt in "A History Of Violence."
"...How do you f*ck that up? HOW!? DO YOU F*CK THAT UP!?"
That meme is perennial when it comes to this century's stupidity thus far. RIP Hurt, the problematic professional whom I shall always remember for Dark City.
@@johnathonhaney8291 "Lost In Space"(1998) for me... yeah, say what ya want about the crappy CGI spider-monster, I still loved that movie when I were a lad in high-school.
@@thetribunaloftheimaginatio5247 Buddy, you know there's no judgement with me on that sort of thing, right? And Hurt was the best thing about that film.
@@johnathonhaney8291 Between him, Gary Oldman honoring the late, great Jonathan Harris as Dr. Smith and Dick Tufeld reprising his role as the robot. I loved the revamped version of Robot... mainly because I'm a sucker for Robot Buddies.
Nerd v Geek: Dawn of Justice
The LGBTQ Disney Walkout is unlikely to result in employee protests in the “on stage” areas of the parks, but the associated work stoppages and sick-outs could result in longer than usual lines for attractions and food stands at Disneyland and Disney California Adventure.
literally only ONE person showed up to the protest at the Florida offices. the workers that showed up at the California offices did one lap around the office and the just went back to work. This is an astroterf movement.
"I don't want to be political" means "I'm a far right lunatic, and I want to be extremely political."
Or "I don't want to say the quiet part about my regressive politics out loud."
Only an extremist would neutrality be seen as oppositional.
@@foristrothbert568 Nonsense. Someone who takes a neutral position between firefighters and arsonists is someone who is, ultimately, OK with houses being burned down. They are either disinterested in the "is it OK to set houses on fire" debate, or they are tacitly approving of it but don't want to appear so.
Not every debate works this way, but there are irreconcilable issues where there isn't a "neutral" position, where the status quo is that people are being harmed.
@@GeneralBolas that is a pretty good argument. I will so steal this.
"Apolitical" in these days usually yeah means you have far right unpopular ideas and you are aware how unpopular and bad they are, but you still want to soapbox and use your status to spread them.
I think the lesson is more along the lines of "sometimes the system fails in the right way."
Nah, that would presuppose the system wasn't actively protecting itself at all times.
So multiple Disney departments are in open rebellion?
This is the weirdest kind of corporate-dystopian civil war. I hope they declare independence.
Always a good day wakin up to a new Big Picture
As somebody with zero knowledge of the oscars, movie industry going-ons or celebrity whatevers, I feel like I could have watched the first half of this clip in, say, Swahili and taken about as much away from it as it did just now. But thankfully Bob manages to bring things around and establishes some sense of order by the end of it.
"Too stupid to do the wrong thing with subtlety."
Isn't that what made Trump get the support of all the bigots? That he was saying all the bigotted things that the regular Republicans only dog-whistled about?
Maybe Chapek tried to do the corporate-liberal equivalent and found out that that isn't how shit works on what us Americans laughably call The Left.
Ah, no, Chapek tried staying above the fray and failed miserably at doing so.
@@johnathonhaney8291 Pretty much. Also, clearly this person we're replying to is one of those would-be Robespierres whose plans to improve the common good begin and end with "Murder All The Rich People And Take Their Stuff."
Yeah, don't anybody @ me with "Liberal" as a curse-word or "Democrats Are Just As Bad As Republicans!" No the hell they are not. But don't bother explaining that to this person, who believes "Everyone's a Nazi! Except me, of course, because I sleep with a copy of 'Capital' under my pillow!"
5:02 I mean, out of that lineup I think Jim Carrey had a good point, at least. It's basically a tautology, but he wasn't wrong.
Also, I think Disney being forced into the culture war was probably inevitable. They're too big to have kept up the act forever. But I expected they'd hold out at least another decade or two.
Yeah, seriously. They own 37% of the entertainment industry now, on top of obviously all other aspects related to business. This kind of f'up was inevitable for a company THAT big , THAT greedy and that divorced from reality.
Just to clarify, companies don't want unions to have less power, companies want less unions.
The latter condition has been around for a while. But with the recent resurgence of unions, the former may well be the more achievable goal.
I'm honestly surprised the internet didn't nominate Filmy McFilmFace.
This is a great episode of the big picture.
Huh. Well, as someone who proclaims to be an ally, I won't look a gift mouse in the mouth. Doing the right thing because you were forced to is still better than NOT doing the right thing...
A quote attributed to Churchill: "You can always count on Americans to do the right thing after they've exhausted every other option." So it often is with big companies.
4:00 I'm still rooting for Snyder to get to do his long-desired adaptation of The Fountainhead at some point, because it will be a glorious clusterfuck and I've already got a camp boner just thinking about it. Plus the unspeakably delicious irony of it being adapted by exactly the sort of mediocre 'second-hander' that Rand wrote The Fountainhead to denounce.
(To be clear: this isn't me promoting Rand's ideals. This is me giggling at the absolute horror she'd have at the very idea of "Zack Snyder's Ayn Rand's The Fountainhead." Because I'm a petty bastard.)
I've no love left for Snyder myself but lack your pettiness. At this point, I just want him to go away and am indifferent as to where. Mostly, it's because I suspect that he used the DCEU toxics far more than Mr. Chipman wants to admit but that may be unfair on my part.
The Cyborg subplot in Zack Snyder's Justice League already would have put him on her list of enemies already. I genuinely don't get what Snyder sees in her works.
@@DantheManIamIam Sounds like something I'm glad I skipped.
@@johnathonhaney8291 I think you misunderstood my point. The Cyborg subplot has him using his powers to do things like transferring money to a single mother about to lose her home as an act of anonymous kindness. It's an act of actual heroism that is against everything Rand stood for, as well as Snyder's typical attitudes.
@@DantheManIamIam Ah, I see...sounds like a good idea that Snyder is getting credit for instead of the screenwriter who actually came up with it.
I voted for Shrek opening his outhouse door to Smash Mouth.
Surprised by how little I heard about this from the social media mill.
Nah nah nah. The lesson is, bully corporations and CEO's. Not regular people who don't have power, but those a-holes. Always
It is always morally correct to give CEO's the PR equivalent of a swirly 😄
A pertinent lesson but the wrong one here. Here's a better one: hire CEOs with a better grasp of PR.
No, a decent CEO would have known not to aggro not only substantial parts of his fanbase but maker creative people in his own company. A decent CEO would realize that, in the modern day, loudly proclaiming that you're not taking a stand on an issue *is* taking a stand on that issue.
The lesson is that only incompetence can force major corporations to change tactics.
And the constantly bribed legislators; don't forget them too.
Did not know that the Most Cheer Worthy Scenes was voted on by the internet, it makes sense now. I spent much time wondering both why Luke blowing up the Death Star wasn't even on it at all, AND why the Flash moment instead of, say, Superman showing up to smack down Steppenwolf...(Wait, could fans choose any moment from those movies? So, enough people thought *that bit* was good enough to warrant singling it out?? Huh...) Also, did *anyone* cheer Neo's bullet dodge?? Defeating Agent Smith, I could see, but that scene...?
I mean, a lot of people really did love that Flash scene. Its music was definitely my favorite score of the Snyder Cut.
I'll freely admit I voted for the Justice League scene because I legit like that film and it was the best out of all the options there IMO, but I had no clue you could vote more then once.
You want a more recent Cheer Worthy? Cap with Mjolnir! My whole theater went nuclear!
@@JnEricsonx Even more recent: The crowd went wild at Batman starting up his car...Wait, let me rephrase that: The new Batmobile's engine growling out of the shadows, shaking the entire theater like a maddened beast that just crawled its way out of Hell, headlights stabbing out of the darkness like the fiery gaze of the medusa herself...Hell, I want to see the movie in IMAX just for that scene alone!
This felt like more of a box of scraps, but the scraps are the tail end of all the juicy cuts going on right now.
And this doesn't even touch on the newest development where Florida is kicking around repealing the Reedy Creek Improvement Act and actually has a crazy enough government to go through with it.
I keep asking for Bugs Bunny or Palpatine or Gaea or SOMEONE to just cut it off at the panhandle so it won't bother us anymore. I am BEYOND sick of these idiots dragging America and by extension the whole world down with their uselessness.
Bro, calm your tits. The entire state isn't bad. Less hyperbolic, more sense, please
Florida: Determined to prove right every horrible thing you've ever heard about it.
So much for "get woke, go broke"
From the beginning, it's been more like "stay asleep, stay a sheep." And sheep always get fleeced.
This is the tenth piece of online media I saw/read about slamming Chapek, and I'm still hungry for more.
Been waiting for this coverage.
I know WB keeps making bad moves, but I will be really just... depressed when/if WB archive closes, all the other companies barely release their back catalog and WB is the only one I've ever been able to get odder movies from, and the only reason I was able to completely watch Night Court.
Bob Iger is sitting in his study with a cigar, a glass of scotch, and a big smile on his face while all this happens.
"One more fuck-up and they'll be _begging_ me to come back."
Another big factor is employees: Disney makes musicals & princess fashion & live entertainment. The creative side has always had a lot of gays & they are really pissing them off. Old Disney always stuck its neck out for the gays a little by having partner benefits & unofficial gay days, but never said anything politically, but if there's a big backlash & a lot of people are already upset about the lack of gay content in your movies, this plays out differently.
Also worth mentioning while Disney generally gives money to all sides, the gave way more money to Republicans in Florida the previous cycle, likely trying to get the parks open.
All while they have multiple scandals about not paying talent.
So many that 1 single person protested in Florida just 1. California it was hundreds but in Florida just 1.
It's a mad mad mad mad world
Do we know if there are anymore "Really that Good," episode's? I really like those.
there was a lord of the rings in the works if i remember correctly
I'm still hoping for a Star Trek RTG! Anything you want to see in particular?
@@HandofOmega hmm if I'm thinking of time honored classics that everyone agrees are amazing but don't seem to get talked about alot beyond "woohoo this is great' I pick My Neighbor Totoro.
@@carlostaffanelly418 yeah somewhere down the line
@@HandofOmega its just that they are happy uplifting content about thing that are awesome. Things like that feel very few and far between these days
Fascinating. This has been talking point at the office lately, and I was hearing a lot of conflicting things. This was able to clear up a few of them, however I don't think the last few questions I have will be answered in this comment section. Oh well, at least I have an idea of what people are talking about now.
This is Disney’s Blitzchung moment, isn’t it?
With the money they pay these top execs you'd think companies would have better standards to picking out good ones and quicker to pin problems on them.
If Channel awesome taught me anything, the best statements (public or private) shouldn’t be advertisements.
i was having a great day before I had to be reminded the 1/4'd One exists. thanks bob.
I was not expecting a double feature.
The only thing Chapek did right was making Star for international Disney+ instead of releasing Hulu worldwide like Iger intended. This is going to be a short lived CEO. Iger should have stayed until mid 20s as previously planned.
Woulda, shoulda, coulda...we are we are.
Weird, how 'grooming a boring dude who was good at raising profits on merch' to vault into the seat of a transformatively modern and diverse media company - was a bad idea. Kathleen Kennedy would have made a better exec... and faceplanted in shit 100% less.
ALSO - remember this is the guy who decided he could win a popularity contest against Scarlet Johansson.
And close and consolidate a BUNCH of his white collar folks by MAKING them have to move from LA to Florida or lose their jobs!
The MOMENT the Shareholders have someone who can step in - he is out. You watch.
Your prediction is a fairly safe bet. And you didn't even mention the part where he started beefing with Iger, arguably the start of his long line of mistakes.
The concept this overpromoted-bro would turn around and bite Iger is INSANE! Like... does this dude not know the board STILL WANTS IGER?
Cmon Bob. Come back for five. Groom a human with a soul (and preferably one who is not the same gender-race as they last 10 Presidents) and leave a REAL legacy... before the company has to do something ugly.
I mean. Its ALL going to be ugly, so there is no avoiding that now.
But Kathleen Kennedy fired actress Gina Carano for her public right wing political statements, which is a form of political persecution (I am left leaning btw). This stupid and pointless action has cost Disney Plus a lot of subscriptions, including mine.
This is what you get when you can't fall anywhere down but upwards.
This was one of your better videos in a long time!
2:27 oh yeah. I remember Amazon Prime's Cinderella. I think I dislike it more now than when I watched the movie.
5:02 that's the slap everyone is talking about? Really? Wow, I care even less now.
My thought on the slap are well-worn cliches: "fuck with the bull, get the horns", "paybacks are hell" and "what were you expecting?" Oh and "be glad it was Will because Jada would have made you very dead."
I have no strong feelings about that Cinderella film one way or the other.
They'll be donating to desantis in a couple of months
And Florida's state governemt dissolved the Reedy Creek improvement District. Which Disney will probably fight.
This was genuinely a list of "Something something something" and I somehow followed all of it. It was genuinely the most pure river of thought I've ever heard. Good on you Bob for managing to convey most of that plot through sheer feeling and ordering.
I really can't understand how Chapek got to be CEO without already understanding how these things work. Those political donations have been flowing for so long they're on direct deposit at this point. And especially in Florida where the politicians are batshiat crazy, and through the whole disaster that has been the Republican party for the last half century since Watergate, you'd think they'd all understand that all communication about these issues is crisis communication and it needs to be handled as such to minimize exposure and damage. He should have the pre-approved canned response to any of these questions on a laminated card glued to the desk in front of his phone from day 1. What a clown show. I'd call it looney tunes, but that's Warner Brothers.
Because as CEO or a public limited company he is an employee and follows the orders of his bosses the board and the majority shareholders.
@@Ushio01 Ah, spoken like someone who needs a conspiracy to keep justifying his hate.
I can only imagine what Walt Disney, who spent so much time and energy into putting Disneyworld in Florida, would have thought of DeSantis treating the state's biggest employer like this.
Disney should become a Worker-owned company, like…Ardmann but GIGANTIC!!!!!!!!!!
Wow, Ezra Miller has some anger issues
"I'm innocent, I swear! Its the Reverse Flash, he's behind everything!"
"That's what they all say, Mr. Miller"
Your intro about Chapek reminds me of your Fan4astic review. “This isn’t supposed to happen anymore. Drink in the spectacle!”
Love this episode, love your takes, amazed at the shortsightedness of so many people!
they met their destiny on the road they chose to avoid it on
Think I heard a Discord "blip" around the 4-minute mark.
you're awesome bob. thanks for this
I was wondering why the Flash was on my screen during the Oscars. I was very confused because i didn't know about the voted awards stuff lol
God I wish the US would move into the 21st century rather than be stuck in a trash version of the 1950ies.
Oh, there are parts of it that are there: Denver, Mr. Chipman's native Boston. It's just too many other places waiting on Boomers to die off that are the holdouts.
God, Bob Chapeck seems...well, cursed.
I think the word you're looking for is "stupid to the point of negative digits IQ".
Nah, culture went woke because of Me Too and Time' Up. The guys were like, oh damn, I banged that chick and I can fired for it, and I told that chick, No!, and I could get fired for it, so I'll save my own skin and join the agenda rebellion.
So these dumbasses learned that women actually DON'T like being treated like shit OR property? **eyeroll**
Ooh that kingdom hearts clip. That was funny.
Hearing you say Boaty McBoatface in a serious tone broke me ha ha
Jim Carrey' comments should not be in that compilation. It might have been a little hyperbolic but not as out of controle as the rest.
Chapek IS the weakest and most uncoordinated Disney boss