@@DreadPirateRoberts121 aren't they using tools to play the game frame by frame so they can get pixel perfect inputs? A human is still doing the inputs or the coding of the inputs not a computer I thought.
@@TheFrostyrune sometimes, for games which allow AI generated perfect input scenarios where you tell it go from x to x in the fastest possible way, but many categories of TAS are done frame by frame as a human
this is actually how I learned to play DOOM, except i have hands so they gave me a proper controller. it took a LOT of time, patience, and sugar water but they were eventually successful and now I play DOOM every day
I would love if Animal-videogames became a real thing! Walmart sells Mini-arcade machines, so i got one for my Rats, but the buttons were a bit to resistant for the rats to push Still looked really cute in their cage tho, with the background screen running
In experiments on animals, it is often not taken into account that visual perception for them is not key in understanding the world. For a rat, the outside world is determined to a large extent by smells, data from vibris (whiskers), sounds (in the ultrasound spectrum). Without all this, the picture on the monitor does not make any sense to them.
Well said. You could test that hypothesis by removing the treats once they are trained to the system. But I still think it's a very valid study about how the brain can develop spatial understanding through various means of stimulus. In this case, treats are the stimulus. Imagine being able to find your way through something by taste alone. Or satiation.
I've probably missed something with my perception of this. On the surface level, I can appreciate that its cool that a rat can play Doom. On a more depth level however am I understanding right to say, positive behaviour is rewarded by the tube in the middle which gives something the rat likes, and the other tubes are to correct negative/undesired behaviour? If I've got that right, my further question for this experiment is questioning the rats motives. Is the rat actually playing the game with the visual stimulus of the game in front of it and moving the character based on knowing that's what they should be doing; or is the rat's motivations driven on the more basic level of ... "if i walk forward, i get my treat"?
You asked the correct question. In experiments on animals, it is often not taken into account that visual perception for them is not key in understanding the world. For a rat, the outside world is determined to a large extent by smells, data from vibris (whiskers), sounds (in the ultrasound spectrum). Without all this, the picture on the monitor does not make any sense to them.
Rat has no business caring about what happens on funny magic box, that's why it needs they need more motivation Can't wait for a rat to do a better vergil combo than me
Seems to be the case yes. The rat gets the treat when it moves forward. The demon blocks the movement so it has to shoot the demon to keep moving (probably button at the mouth part)
It looks like the rat is just trained to run on a ball to get a reward, and it just happens to be controlling a doom character. Maybe im wrong, but it doesn't seem like the rat is paying any attention to the screen. I'll be impressed if you are able to get them to navigate a room and find a key. Will say I did find this highly entertaining though 😂😂
If rats lived 20+ years instead of 2-3 we would be seeing insane amounts of intelligence from them, the potential is crazy. So sad they have such short life spans
Szia. Nagyon gartulálok! Nem semmi ahogy ezt kitaláltad és megvalósítottad! Zseniális! :D Minden elismerésem! Hajrá! Így tovább a továbbiakban. Sok sikert!
After graduating from his PhD, he went on to look for a professorship: "I can teach your students physics, or anything really, after all, I taught rats to play Doom"
I think the rat simply needs more sensory data, certainly sense of smell would probably be very difficult but sense of touch via whiskers is already being simulated here and probably just needs to be increased in accuracy.
That rat doesn't have a clue or even care what's on the screen. Their eyesight isn't good enough to perceive the optical effect from the screen. Also they can't see red, so when it flashes red, the rat stops for a moment because to the rat, the light went dark.
I have a difficult time understanding the point of this. Alot of technical effort to see that a rat can turn a ball and that ball can make the doom guy move forward.
I'd love to see this streamed. They should move the "carrot" away from the rat mm by mm if it doesn't run, inciting it to run after the thing it's licking. And then maybe add ammo boxes in game that make the food come closer temporarily.
im not sure that constantly moving forward is consistent with 'playing doom ' as the article that lead me here claimed . Drop me a line when his aim and problem solving kicks in . This is just a rat on ball in front of a screen but then ,what did i expect i guess ?! haha
Getting kills, beating a level should give them a treat. (Or if there was an ethical way for rats to activate their dopamine response if they shot enemies, etc)
Just imagine a rat playing gta online with a level 120+ account with all the OP vehicles and weapons in the game. That's the test to see what type of GTA online player a rat is
This makes me a bit upset. The setup does not allow turning so the only possible inputs eventually lead to success. If that's the requirement that needs to be satisfied to call it "play", I can teach rain to play doom.
Hát nem tudom de kicsit szkeptikus vagyok az eredményt látva. A partkány így kondícionálva lett valamire, de korántsem nevezném annak, hogy tudatosan a játékot irányítaná. Ez így csak az első lépése lenne valami nagyobb dolognak?
I can't wait for speedrun category where people place their rats and compete with other rats
So...speedrunning?
Rat race
Dude imagine rat deathmatch
*cruelty intensivies*
Lol Rat%
Doom Requierements:
Being human - optional -
Device - Any -
Input device(s) - paws, teeth
@@stephenmanuel9860 Anything -Optional-
Screen - Optional -
i hope i live to see the day a mycelium colony beats DOOM
Taking 'Gaming mouse' to a whole new level
The next generation of Gaming Bois
XD
BOOM BOOM! 😏🤟
i dont get it is that some kind of youtuber or something?
Razer in fulture
I've heard of playing DOOM with a mouse, but this is ridiculous!
*laughing track intensifies*
Correct, a gaming rat does not exist.
My sides
Didn't classic DOOM use arrow keys to turn around tho?
Introducing Rat. It's like a mouse but better in every way.
The year is 20XX. Rats now compete in all doom speed runs with TAS level perfection.
@Frames P3rSecond an acronym for "Tool Assisted Speedrun" used to describe speedruns that have been done by a computer.
@@DreadPirateRoberts121 aren't they using tools to play the game frame by frame so they can get pixel perfect inputs? A human is still doing the inputs or the coding of the inputs not a computer I thought.
@@TheFrostyrune sometimes, for games which allow AI generated perfect input scenarios where you tell it go from x to x in the fastest possible way, but many categories of TAS are done frame by frame as a human
RAS (Rat Assisted Speedrun)
@@TheFrostyrune it’s also that they can preform inputs in mini frames
I’d like to imagine this guy waking up one day and just saying: “fuck it, rat playing doom”
he said in an interview that's exactly what happened
This makes me smile
This guy staring at some rat he found: can it run doom?
Lmfao!
"Can he run in doom?"
It's from the Texas Instruments Rodentia series.
But can he run crysis
Can it speedrun DOOM?
2000: Guys I ported Doom to a TI86!
2021: I ported doom to a Rat.
Or a rat to doom in this case
2031: Rat beats Super Gore Nest Master Level.
@@pierreramirez2599 "Tutorial: How to train your rat to quickswitch"
Reading this comment back in 2000 with no context would be scary.
I miss playing games on my TI back in highschool. Mom wasn't too happy about getting tricked into buying a stealth gaming console though 😂
this is actually how I learned to play DOOM, except i have hands so they gave me a proper controller. it took a LOT of time, patience, and sugar water but they were eventually successful and now I play DOOM every day
Need more details
@@lordofbanana6869 its a rat that learned to type in youtube comments
@@stoneybalogne4821 Ohno i get it now. They are breeding rats with hands to take over e-sports! It all makes sense now
@@stoneybalogne4821 The joke is that this is a human that learned the game this way (notice how he said "except I have hands").
r/woosh moment
@@panthekirb7561 you are the woosh
Good job. My rats are wondering when this VR Rat system is releasing. They would love to test it out
I would love if Animal-videogames became a real thing!
Walmart sells Mini-arcade machines, so i got one for my Rats, but the buttons were a bit to resistant for the rats to push
Still looked really cute in their cage tho, with the background screen running
Where is the verified checkmark for this man? TH-cam, I demand satisfaction!
Yoooo how are the rats??
I knew I'd find you here.
Legit would love to see this developed more!
The rat really said "wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww"
-wwwwwwhat?
@@gamingfoxy_gamer4812 "w" is the key you press to move forward in PC video games.
@@davidtorazzi7650 i know it’s just a joke sorry
@@gamingfoxy_gamer4812 No need to be sorry.
Can't wait for Animal Speedrunners to become a thing
Did you ever see the goldfish that played a Pokémon game?
wait until vegans complain and say it’s animal slavery.
Peta: you can't do that to animals
Me: STFU you just mad cause this rat can Speedrun doom II and you cant
So Vtubers
In experiments on animals, it is often not taken into account that visual perception for them is not key in understanding the world. For a rat, the outside world is determined to a large extent by smells, data from vibris (whiskers), sounds (in the ultrasound spectrum). Without all this, the picture on the monitor does not make any sense to them.
This is true. The rat doesnt actually understand that its moving in the game, all it understands is that If it runs on the ball it gets sugar water.
Also, is the rat able to focus on the screen, at such a close distance?
It's never been more important than now that we should be able to smell video games
@@ChezzyKnytt i dont know man, can you imagine the stench of playing left for dead?
Well said. You could test that hypothesis by removing the treats once they are trained to the system. But I still think it's a very valid study about how the brain can develop spatial understanding through various means of stimulus. In this case, treats are the stimulus. Imagine being able to find your way through something by taste alone. Or satiation.
Can't wait to see animals play doom normally in the future
It's all fun and games until you playing cod and a dog starts aggressively barking into the mic
One day we'll play some Deathmatch with them
@@Vulcan_Logics I think they already are...
I hope you take good care of the rats even after they complete doom they’re beautiful creature and deserve respect and to be treated well.
must terminate
they keep making nests in my attic and if they dont respect me i dont respect them simple
#ratgang
"I hope you take good care of the rats even after they complete doom" is a sentence I never thought I'd see
I heard the guy puts them all in a blender after he's done with them
This is what a New York rat sees in the subway
That rat had NO IDEA what to do as soon as an enemy got introduced, but sure as the sun will rise: that rat had a gat and he knew how to use it
This is god dam ingenious you will go down in the History books
Yes
I agree
I'd be more curious if they can make turns instead of just going straight
Its not really playing
It's a rat, dude. What are you expecting? It's already a wonder of engineering if he can even walk around!
@UCJbyNNY-8EW7LtFS2XlxXiA fuck off. He walked, he shoot and he hit the switch. No different from when we play
It can make turns
That's why it's a ball instead of a treadmill.
PETA: "Animal abuser forces rat to engage in violent imagery in order to be fed."
Someone: 'Do you have a gamer mouse for me?'
Scientist: *Okay*
Watching the mouse shoot someone in Doom is a new emotion... the robots that will wipe out the human race will be controlled ratatouille style
I've probably missed something with my perception of this. On the surface level, I can appreciate that its cool that a rat can play Doom. On a more depth level however am I understanding right to say, positive behaviour is rewarded by the tube in the middle which gives something the rat likes, and the other tubes are to correct negative/undesired behaviour? If I've got that right, my further question for this experiment is questioning the rats motives. Is the rat actually playing the game with the visual stimulus of the game in front of it and moving the character based on knowing that's what they should be doing; or is the rat's motivations driven on the more basic level of ... "if i walk forward, i get my treat"?
You asked the correct question. In experiments on animals, it is often not taken into account that visual perception for them is not key in understanding the world. For a rat, the outside world is determined to a large extent by smells, data from vibris (whiskers), sounds (in the ultrasound spectrum). Without all this, the picture on the monitor does not make any sense to them.
Rat has no business caring about what happens on funny magic box, that's why it needs they need more motivation
Can't wait for a rat to do a better vergil combo than me
To me it loos like the rat has no business at all with whats going on on the screen. Its just interacting with the food dispenser.
Seems to be the case yes. The rat gets the treat when it moves forward. The demon blocks the movement so it has to shoot the demon to keep moving (probably button at the mouth part)
@@asgarzigel So this seems to be more of a "can doom be played blind" experiment rather than "can a rat play doom" experiment
By the year 2070 rats will take over speedrunning
It looks like the rat is just trained to run on a ball to get a reward, and it just happens to be controlling a doom character. Maybe im wrong, but it doesn't seem like the rat is paying any attention to the screen. I'll be impressed if you are able to get them to navigate a room and find a key. Will say I did find this highly entertaining though 😂😂
Yeah
baby steps
don't even being rewarded hahah it can drink anywhen it wants
or if they could just shoot when seeing an enemy
You're right dude I feel gyped
Still better than game jornalists
Looking good mirage
Dean Takahashi moment.
Doom community has four jokes
Doom fans trying to come up with a new joke
@@marekvincibr5884 No need to be this passive aggressive over a joke
"Is impossoble to beat Doom II without a mouse"
Now i know why
Razer really outdid themselves with this new gaming mouse
Not really, my rats have all lived longer than my Razor mice.
Now teach him to speedrun Doom on nightmare difficulty!
If rats lived 20+ years instead of 2-3 we would be seeing insane amounts of intelligence from them, the potential is crazy. So sad they have such short life spans
Szia. Nagyon gartulálok! Nem semmi ahogy ezt kitaláltad és megvalósítottad! Zseniális! :D Minden elismerésem! Hajrá! Így tovább a továbbiakban. Sok sikert!
Elárulod hogy mi a zseniális ebbe?
@@szilardolvedi4830 Ezt ugye nem komolyan kérdezed? :D
@@plokoon7491 De
This is pretty cool. Loved seeing the demons getting hit with the shotty. Knowing the mouse was the shooter lol.
After graduating from his PhD, he went on to look for a professorship:
"I can teach your students physics, or anything really, after all, I taught rats to play Doom"
It plays better than a game journalist.
It seems like the rat only had to move forward.. it doesn't seem like a huge achievement and I feel like this was pointless for the animal.
To me it seems he just figured out that spinning the ball gives him rewards. I doubt he cares about that monitor in front of him
I think the rat simply needs more sensory data, certainly sense of smell would probably be very difficult but sense of touch via whiskers is already being simulated here and probably just needs to be increased in accuracy.
So Brain, what do you wanna do tonight?
The same thing we do every night, Pinky…
That rat doesn't have a clue or even care what's on the screen.
Their eyesight isn't good enough to perceive the optical effect from the screen. Also they can't see red, so when it flashes red, the rat stops for a moment because to the rat, the light went dark.
Read the article in the description...
Now we have to make a .wad that looks like the 3d maze screensavers from the 90s
Saw this in an article.
Freaking amazing job my dude.
I have a difficult time understanding the point of this. Alot of technical effort to see that a rat can turn a ball and that ball can make the doom guy move forward.
Instead of porting the game Doom to something he's showing that you can port the ability to play Doom to other creatures
To anyone who hasn't played doom, by process of elimination this rat is officially better at playing doom than you.
i love the doom rat so much that i literally cried for the first time in like 4 years because of how goofy this little rat is
In fact, i think you should give them play Wolfenstein 3-D, he is more easy than doom, for rat perception
I don't know if there's custom Wolfenstein?
@@DembaiVT yeah, but so Hard to make a level. Trust me, i tried)
Can't wait to see some progress on that project, it's kinda fascinating haha
In an interview he gave. He has plans on opening a Twitch Channel for his great gamer rat
@@PlagiarizedG yeah, the internet is full with this info lol
@@richardtoth7240 Imagine playing Co-Op with your dog 🐕
Absolutely necessary science
This is awesome, I'd like to see the progress of the experiment... Please upload more videos!
I want to see that rat beating level1 and so on...
You won't. It's pretty obvious that it doesn't give a rat's ass (😬) about what's happening on the screen.
"Can it run Doom though?" Has a got a new meaning
Viktor! Te egy Zseni vagy! Csak így tovább! 😉
I'll be impressed if the mouse can strafe around Pinkies
Rat and tear
Fast forward 50 years into the future at some popular battle royal game chat room
"Dude, you human or rat?"
Criminally underrated
little dude going HAM on that water bottle
Interesting... I wonder how closely the learning maps to actual physical maze learning. Future study work...
This mouse will escape and train 4 turtles in modern warfare inside the NY sewers.
Next thing you know, we'll have rats speedrunning doom rat%
Who knew Hakos Baelz needed a special rig to play classic Doom
She has a quite chaotic setup
we gave you 1 million dollars for research purposes, what did you do?
We teached rats how to play doom2
speaking as the designer of many of the levels the rat is playing I 100% support this idea.
This is so cute and awesome!
This can either be an epic achievement or starting point for disaster but I’m here to love it 💜
I'd love to see this streamed. They should move the "carrot" away from the rat mm by mm if it doesn't run, inciting it to run after the thing it's licking. And then maybe add ammo boxes in game that make the food come closer temporarily.
Bro, this is a very very cool experiment!! Try to do a gameplay stream made by this excellent rat! 10/10
I recommend using a bigger ball so the rats dont get their tails accidentally stuck in the turning wheels
I think VR will be the next step for animals to play games. Maybe AR. Definitely subscribing !
Well. Remember: Rats are the most intelligent beings on this planet. Dolphins right behind them.
Also, remember: Don't forget your towel.
Damn,thanks for the towel.been sweating from watching this mouse
I've heard of small ant that is speedrunning games, but this is something new
0:03 i would love to take a look at the code that allows rats to slaughter demons
Yes, a rat deathmatch. Every rat for himself in Doom. The winner gets a giant trophy made of cheese.
im not sure that constantly moving forward is consistent with 'playing doom ' as the article that lead me here claimed . Drop me a line when his aim and problem solving kicks in . This is just a rat on ball in front of a screen but then ,what did i expect i guess ?! haha
he's just trying to move forward to reach the tubes better, how is this playing doom?
Alright now this is cool as shit, looking forward for more videos
Choose Skill Level:
☐ I'm too young to die
☐ Nightmare!
☒ Rat Slayer
"Mom, can I have a cool gaming mouse?"
"We have a cool gaming mouse at home."
Cool gaming mouse at home:
The rat gets a sugary treat, and I get a dose of sweet nostalgia from the guitar solo. Oh golly!
I can think of so many situations where a rat trained to play video games would be exactly what I need!
This looks like something Phineas and Ferb would build for Perry.
Getting kills, beating a level should give them a treat. (Or if there was an ethical way for rats to activate their dopamine response if they shot enemies, etc)
now this is the real gaming mouse!
When you realize a mouse has a better setup than you...
The fact this was in New York is just the icing on top
i am worried about the rat getting its tail caught between the back wheel but otherwise very interesting experiment
I love this, but I worry about a tail getting stuck in the back wheel.
here before this blows up this is really impressive
Next: Rodents playing 3D Pinball Space Cadet
Impressive setup. However I don't think the rat is doing what you think it's doing
BUT....can they play Crysis?
:>
This is so underrated we need to get this guy some more subs
Not even. The guy just modified doom to be a straight path and has the rat running on the ball for treats..... stupid vid.
Just imagine a rat playing gta online with a level 120+ account with all the OP vehicles and weapons in the game. That's the test to see what type of GTA online player a rat is
I've seen this video before, but I just read a article about your online. Congrats!
1940: we will have flying cars in 2021
2021: so today i made a rat play doom 2
Wow a brand new "gaming mouse"
Can't wait for multiplayer
should've used a gfuel drip instead
This makes me a bit upset. The setup does not allow turning so the only possible inputs eventually lead to success. If that's the requirement that needs to be satisfied to call it "play", I can teach rain to play doom.
Hát nem tudom de kicsit szkeptikus vagyok az eredményt látva. A partkány így kondícionálva lett valamire, de korántsem nevezném annak, hogy tudatosan a játékot irányítaná. Ez így csak az első lépése lenne valami nagyobb dolognak?
Ngl that's so cute seeing a rat playing doom
I hope a “gaming rat” will one day become commercially available
Now you just need train a rabbit named daisy to play it.