Growing Living Rat Neurons To Play... DOOM? | Part 1

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  • @thethoughtemporium
    @thethoughtemporium  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +139

    Over the past year we've made some serious progress on this project, come check out Part 2: th-cam.com/video/c-pWliufu6U/w-d-xo.html

    • @GamePilLP
      @GamePilLP 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Great video, watching it before the part two! Btw, do you know what movie/show is the clip at 0:56?

    • @Xnoob545
      @Xnoob545 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ok

    • @thethoughtemporium
      @thethoughtemporium  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@GamePilLP They're Made Out of Meat: th-cam.com/video/7tScAyNaRdQ/w-d-xo.html

    • @GamePilLP
      @GamePilLP 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thethoughtemporium Many thanks. Can't wait for the next part

    • @peacepoet1947
      @peacepoet1947 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Seeing what you are doing helps a lot. Reprogramming skin cells is an idea to cut down costs of the project? I thought that it would be an interesting study if one of your employees has super skin cells that are easier to work with and which cells live longer.

  • @Cry0fwar
    @Cry0fwar ปีที่แล้ว +39623

    Imagine gaining consciousness for the first time and your just Doomguy

  • @SunShineForTheFine
    @SunShineForTheFine ปีที่แล้ว +29054

    The fact that human neurons are so advanced that they can force other neurons into playing doom for them is crazy

    • @A-Milkdromeda-Laniakea-Hominid
      @A-Milkdromeda-Laniakea-Hominid ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Makes you wonder, what we're doing for some 4th dimensional scientist using 3D spacetime instead of 2D glass discs for growth media.

    • @littletimelord2755
      @littletimelord2755 ปีที่แล้ว +1435

      Ya know, you bring up and interesting point. Imagine how these other neurons feel, they must think we’re quite audacious to do experiments like this

    • @PHneverwhere
      @PHneverwhere ปีที่แล้ว +901

      You gain conscousness just to reap and tear rhose demons

    • @KinuTheDragon
      @KinuTheDragon ปีที่แล้ว +364

      Crazy? I was crazy once.

    • @harrisfh
      @harrisfh ปีที่แล้ว +516

      @@KinuTheDragon They locked me in a rubber room. A rubber room with rat neurons. Rat neurons make me play doom.

  • @rubenflores1200
    @rubenflores1200 ปีที่แล้ว +10897

    Rat neurons “What is my purpose”
    Scientists “You will play doom”
    Rat neurons “Sick”

    • @kennyoffhenny
      @kennyoffhenny ปีที่แล้ว +85

      😭

    • @JmKrokY
      @JmKrokY ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Fr

    • @ODST_TROOP_ON_BREAK
      @ODST_TROOP_ON_BREAK ปีที่แล้ว +144

      TBH, that is pretty f***ing tight. 😤

    • @cleptuno
      @cleptuno ปีที่แล้ว +104

      “You can also pass the butter, once you get killed“.

    • @FuS3D86
      @FuS3D86 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      Rat neurons "Do I get cheese?"
      Scientists "No... you get a tone generator"

  • @arthurcallahan6108
    @arthurcallahan6108 ปีที่แล้ว +1359

    “Ah sweet, man made horrors beyond my comprehension!”
    -Peter Griffin

    • @ivonnesaysmiau
      @ivonnesaysmiau 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      wonders*

    • @michaelerlanger2797
      @michaelerlanger2797 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Me seeing horrors beyond my comprehension (I don’t get it)

    • @FrosstKatt
      @FrosstKatt หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      "well i can comprehend these manmade horrors perfectly fine so idk maybe you have a skill issue or smth"
      -scout tf2

    • @MoldyStir-Fry
      @MoldyStir-Fry 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You've said all there is to say my friend.

  • @FinnCrossan
    @FinnCrossan ปีที่แล้ว +9416

    It's nice to think that someone's thought process while looking at a brain was "but can it run Doom?"

    • @nathangamble125
      @nathangamble125 ปีที่แล้ว +475

      Well, it's _playing_ DOOM rather than _running_ DOOM.
      My brain can also play DOOM, but can't run it.

    • @idioticlight
      @idioticlight ปีที่แล้ว +626

      @@nathangamble125 quitter mindset

    • @kevynpacthatguythatdraws
      @kevynpacthatguythatdraws ปีที่แล้ว +445

      @@nathangamble125 you're technically running doom if you're thinking of doom.

    • @leafly7917
      @leafly7917 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      ​@@nathangamble125🤓

    • @kaiserofyoutube
      @kaiserofyoutube ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nathangamble125 nerd

  • @togglehd
    @togglehd ปีที่แล้ว +6789

    He really took "But can it play Doom" to a whole new level!

    • @goofoffchannel
      @goofoffchannel ปีที่แล้ว +193

      Can't wait for down the line when it inevitably runs skyrim

    • @TheDrakanMaster124
      @TheDrakanMaster124 ปีที่แล้ว +113

      But can it run crisis

    • @pumbi69
      @pumbi69 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      I think you got doom confused with crisis. Doom can even run on a toaster

    • @TheDrakanMaster124
      @TheDrakanMaster124 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@pumbi69 I play Doom on my TI-89 titanium

    • @suisse0a0
      @suisse0a0 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Well, it is know Doom can be play on anything... he just keep the trend going and true!

  • @stuff31
    @stuff31 ปีที่แล้ว +4321

    I like that this guy's first thought when creating a sentient being is to make it play doom as if "can it play doom" is a benchmark that should apply to living organisms and not just old computers

    • @Kishmond
      @Kishmond ปีที่แล้ว +255

      This is less sentient than a small insect.

    • @StormsandSaugeye
      @StormsandSaugeye ปีที่แล้ว +479

      @@Kishmond *But can it play doom?*

    • @nicolasherrera0
      @nicolasherrera0 ปีที่แล้ว +107

      @@Kishmond It's more sentient than a tardigrade?

    • @ricecooker7037
      @ricecooker7037 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nicolasherrera0yeah well giving the neurons positive output is like sex for them so they’re having a goddamn party.

    • @plumeria1985
      @plumeria1985 ปีที่แล้ว +175

      @@Kishmond and? Would you trust an wasp smart enough to play doom? I think not.

  • @GlobalWarmingSkeptic
    @GlobalWarmingSkeptic 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1423

    Imagine getting stomped in an FPS and it's just an array of a few hundred neurons that owned you.

    • @Beta_Mixes
      @Beta_Mixes 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +135

      Well, technically this was always a thing

    • @MaxJ.ProfessionalLilGuy
      @MaxJ.ProfessionalLilGuy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I wonder if the Petri dishes will be capable of typing “I mitosed ur mom loser” in game chat…

    • @OMalleyTheMaggot
      @OMalleyTheMaggot 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Haha i can only imagine...
      *cries in TF2*

    • @bigshot103
      @bigshot103 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

      Imagine loosening to something with millions if not billions less neurons than you

    • @skepolotv4173
      @skepolotv4173 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      Who would win?
      Experienced pro gamer with decades playing a variety of shooters vs. a neuron blob

  • @Leftylink
    @Leftylink ปีที่แล้ว +5148

    The fact that only a few neurons are needed to play Doom is a reason for this games success.

    • @karameelch
      @karameelch ปีที่แล้ว +123

      bro😂

    • @Leftylink
      @Leftylink ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@BB-wl4qz 😜

    • @JackPonissi
      @JackPonissi ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Lool!

    • @mhyotyni
      @mhyotyni ปีที่แล้ว +74

      If unnamed kid brother could play Doom succesfully in 1990s, there is nothing to wonder if a couple of rat's brain cells would play that game better! 🤤

    • @wellnucker
      @wellnucker ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Neuron Gaming

  • @gabrielwolffe
    @gabrielwolffe ปีที่แล้ว +5370

    "We're building a meat-robot"..."we're training it to play DOOM"....I see no way that this could end horribly.

    • @TooLameToDie
      @TooLameToDie ปีที่แล้ว +342

      something, something, Skynet. Something, something Armageddon

    • @onewithsource9742
      @onewithsource9742 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      😂🤣😂 You guys! 😉

    • @Barrel4336
      @Barrel4336 ปีที่แล้ว +129

      Hey, there won't be no problems.... unless a portal to hell opens up on Mars

    • @onewithsource9742
      @onewithsource9742 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@Barrel4336 all because Douglas Quaid blabbed about Mars. Smh

    • @wizard_bunny
      @wizard_bunny ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Maybe it saves us from the Demons coming through the portal

  • @williamprice7364
    @williamprice7364 ปีที่แล้ว +3612

    We need to get a rat neuron speed run community

  • @the_soggster3464
    @the_soggster3464 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +319

    What someone will say 100 years from now...
    "awe come on dude, he was 1hp and then I started lagging, my computer must be hungry brb."

    • @neoleonor7140
      @neoleonor7140 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      it's atleast like a 100 bucks for a Iphone 30

  • @acetylsalicylicacid
    @acetylsalicylicacid ปีที่แล้ว +4691

    Imagine frantically running home, but instead of, "I left the oven on!", its, "I forgot to feed my computer!" 💀💀

    • @exered-pc8hg
      @exered-pc8hg ปีที่แล้ว +208

      Warhammer be like:

    • @Deadchannel_321
      @Deadchannel_321 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      bruh💀💀💀
      this is funny asf💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

    • @Zacc2001
      @Zacc2001 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Mom: remember to feed the computer!

    • @Scruyum
      @Scruyum ปีที่แล้ว +13

      And then it becomes conscious

    • @darey8321
      @darey8321 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Wow a TF2 emblem haver

  • @jugel4533
    @jugel4533 ปีที่แล้ว +2739

    You're doing litteral scientific studies and present it as a TH-cam funsie to fund it, you have my utmost respect

    • @brutuschapman2508
      @brutuschapman2508 ปีที่แล้ว +126

      This man is grinding out meat robots and getting paid. The grind is real.

    • @SixWatt
      @SixWatt ปีที่แล้ว +49

      @@brutuschapman2508meat grinding

    • @LightPink
      @LightPink ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I didn't see anything that indicates this is a study

    • @jugel4533
      @jugel4533 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      @@LightPink because there isn't, but when you're doing cutting edge research like that, even if you don't publish afterwards (and nothing point to them not doing that, this seems more than worthy enough), you're pushing the field forward.

    • @brutuschapman2508
      @brutuschapman2508 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SixWatt put ya head in the meat grinder 🤌

  • @Freakshowed95
    @Freakshowed95 ปีที่แล้ว +1249

    I’m terrified of the idea of severed brain cells learning to circle strafe at top speed and proceeding to play the game with the skill caliber of a professional speedrunner

    • @sa2-2k14
      @sa2-2k14 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      This is already happening with machine learning, which is literally bruteforcing any possibility simultaneously by abusing the ridiculously INSANE computational power of hardware

    • @Freakshowed95
      @Freakshowed95 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      @@sa2-2k14 i know, but that’s a machine emulating the human ability to grow and learn. I’m talking about organic material severed from it’s original environment learning how to do the same kind of stuff on it’s own without any kind of assistance from the rest of the body it originated from. THAT sounds like brain-in-a-jar kind of stuff, which is exactly what this seems to be, minus the brain itself.

    • @beebo33
      @beebo33 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'm thrilled by the idea

    • @Beepers559
      @Beepers559 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The first artificial intelligence made of flesh

    • @wta1518
      @wta1518 ปีที่แล้ว

      That already happens, just with non-severed brain cells.

  • @IMakeVideos4Fun
    @IMakeVideos4Fun 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +79

    Computer: my brain hurts, can we play later?
    User: no

  • @DefaultFlame
    @DefaultFlame ปีที่แล้ว +2603

    Pitting miniature clone-brains of the lab personnel against each other in a quake tournament is the most mad scientist thing I've heard in real life.

    • @alexkha
      @alexkha ปีที่แล้ว +60

      yea, why not choose a more peaceful game? Flappy Bird? Tetris? Pacman? Sim City?

    • @michazadkowski8516
      @michazadkowski8516 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      ​@@alexkhastellaris

    • @dgurevich1
      @dgurevich1 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      ​@@michazadkowski8516ah yes 'peaceful'

    • @michazadkowski8516
      @michazadkowski8516 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@dgurevich1 it is peacefull after xenos are gone

    • @arekrekas213
      @arekrekas213 ปีที่แล้ว

      most of the games you listed are singleplayer
      only one that's multiplayer is Tetris, and even then matches of that can get pretty sweaty all things considered@@alexkha

  • @miss_bec
    @miss_bec ปีที่แล้ว +5018

    These man made horrors are within my comprehension and they're really cool

    • @Tiziotozio01-cz1nd
      @Tiziotozio01-cz1nd ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Nevermind

    • @MouldedMind
      @MouldedMind ปีที่แล้ว +163

      @@Tiziotozio01-cz1nd your grammar is beyond my comprehension

    • @kaanthereaper256
      @kaanthereaper256 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Man made horrors are the best ones

    • @thearpox7873
      @thearpox7873 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can't wait for the lab-grown brain to face off against a supercomputer.

    • @GruppeSechs
      @GruppeSechs ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@Tiziotozio01-cz1nd I'm with you, man. This video was just kind of disturbing to me, when I think about the implications in the decade to come.

  • @RepDreStre
    @RepDreStre ปีที่แล้ว +2474

    I taught human neurons to play Doom by playing it myself

    • @KadenHartley
      @KadenHartley ปีที่แล้ว

      Booooo. You suck

    • @Godly_Improvement
      @Godly_Improvement ปีที่แล้ว +20

      true.

    • @Tanystropheus10
      @Tanystropheus10 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      No you didn't you taught them how to pilot a mech to press certain buttons that translate into certain actions and you choose what actions to do based on sensory signals based on light wavelengths (eyes)
      Very different

    • @RepDreStre
      @RepDreStre ปีที่แล้ว +130

      @@Tanystropheus10 Yes I did. It took me like 6 years to master this body. I'm amazed you've heard of my other endeavors. Are you perchance a fan?

    • @protocolsavage8506
      @protocolsavage8506 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@RepDreStreteach me how to pilot a mech broh pls

  • @maximusheaton8375
    @maximusheaton8375 ปีที่แล้ว +370

    Pretty sure this is what Mary Shelley was trying to warn us about when she wrote Frankenstein

    • @puppyqueen5688
      @puppyqueen5688 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      No frankenstine was about not being cruel to people who look different

    • @appletunisheccincute6253
      @appletunisheccincute6253 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

      But can Frankenstein's monster play Doom?

    • @maximusheaton8375
      @maximusheaton8375 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      @@puppyqueen5688while yes, that’s a very surface level interpretation. Mary Shelley was a romantic who opposed the enlightenment, Industrial Revolution, and heroic era of medicine. Frankenstein was written as a ‘cautionary tale’ about the dangers of pushing science too far which was happening at the time. The monster is a physical representation of the horrors that happen when science is pushed too far, these horrors (the monster) eventually catching up with humanity (Frankenstein and his family being killed)

    • @willambernahecooking4036
      @willambernahecooking4036 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Nope. Wrong. She finished Frankenstein in 1817. DOOM was released in 1993. Mary Shelley never played DOOM.

    • @lamechial
      @lamechial 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@willambernahecooking4036No way, really???? I thought the first installment of DOOM came out in the 1800s!!!

  • @puppetmon9687
    @puppetmon9687 ปีที่แล้ว +759

    Damn, Doom truly is the universal videogame, it can be played in anything that can generate electricity

    • @BassoeG
      @BassoeG ปีที่แล้ว +63

      Too limited, someone ought to see if they can run Doom on a clockwork Babbage Engine.

    • @TheLostBijou
      @TheLostBijou ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Well, there are A FEW requirements...but...yeah.

  • @Cesar-ot1xk
    @Cesar-ot1xk ปีที่แล้ว +1701

    New episode of manmade horrors beyond my comprehension, good work, greetings from Spain

    • @timmutaja5687
      @timmutaja5687 ปีที่แล้ว +163

      I think that the explanations are quite excellent, therefore making them man-made horrors within my comprehension ://

    • @Ennarmreal
      @Ennarmreal ปีที่แล้ว +34

      I'm so sorry, hope you make it out of there

    • @uis246
      @uis246 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Noone expects Spanish Inquisition

    • @Soul4007.
      @Soul4007. ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Arriba España!

    • @Gsus__17
      @Gsus__17 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sabes de algún canal o blog sobre ciencia neuronal o organoides neuronales en español? El tema me parece alucinante

  • @azraelcorvo9087
    @azraelcorvo9087 ปีที่แล้ว +469

    I didn't realize until the start of this video, but a meat robot is basically a homunculus. Crazy how sometimes science loops back abound to its historical roots in alchemy.

    • @dejavuism
      @dejavuism ปีที่แล้ว +16

      If this is a homunculus, then so are things like ChatGPT and all the other AIs. Hell, our CPUs and GPUs probably count as well, with the amount of 'neurons' and 'connections' it has. This video really had me thinking on the nature of conciousness and humanness.

    • @azraelcorvo9087
      @azraelcorvo9087 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @dejavuism I'd say current AI tech isn't really anywhere close to complex enough to be considered conscious though. And while a GPU might have a lot of connections, I wouldn't consider it a homunculus either. I think the meat robot is close to the idea of a homunculus because of its organic nature, what with alchemical homunculi being artificial humans and all.

    • @idontwantahandlethough
      @idontwantahandlethough ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@DG-iw3yw I was about to [jokingly] say "uhh I'm pretty sure ChatGPT has been both delusional and willfully ignorant"... but if anything, that actually reinforces your point 😂
      (and to the inevitable nerd that comes along to tell me that chatGPT wasn't _actually_ delusional or willfully ignorant: shut up. just.. shut up )

    • @cowsrbeefy
      @cowsrbeefy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      styropyro quote

    • @watzlrj
      @watzlrj ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Clarke said that any sufficiently advanced science is indistinguishable from magic. The context is different, but I guess it could pertain to this as well.

  • @mehreganzare7658
    @mehreganzare7658 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    This video made me cry. Thank you, you give me hope that although I'm stuck with a crappy lab and professors, there are still real scientists out there doing real scientific experiments.

    • @gunkwizardry
      @gunkwizardry 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I totally feel this, currently taking gen chem and my lab instructor is awful

  • @piorewrzece
    @piorewrzece ปีที่แล้ว +269

    If this end up taking over the world I better tip it. Who knows maybe it would remember me in those tiny neurons

    • @Nov1cegg
      @Nov1cegg ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hey, just for insurance purposes, I love you tiny neurons

    • @samijacquin8814
      @samijacquin8814 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i get basilisk of roko vibes here ...

  • @aakashsahani2991
    @aakashsahani2991 ปีที่แล้ว +459

    "You can grow neurons from skin cells"
    I certainly need to do that to myself

    • @vanconojl
      @vanconojl ปีที่แล้ว +2

      xD

    • @orthotron
      @orthotron ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Too much skin and not enough brain?

    • @MatthewConnellan-xc3oj
      @MatthewConnellan-xc3oj ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@orthotronyes

    • @catatoblob8598
      @catatoblob8598 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's terrifying. Most people have "just enough skin"

    • @orthotron
      @orthotron ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@catatoblob8598 you can harvest your own skin, just let it grow back each time

  • @ruff1e
    @ruff1e ปีที่แล้ว +4156

    At this point the doom community will overtake the science community technologically very soon

    • @swalke6861
      @swalke6861 ปีที่แล้ว +138

      Can we play doom inside our eyes find out in 10-50 years

    • @thespaceman8231
      @thespaceman8231 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      Can we play doom in our sleep?

    • @johnconnorstopskynet
      @johnconnorstopskynet ปีที่แล้ว +66

      Thats when the interdimensional gates to hell will open for real lmao

    • @doomtrooper3184
      @doomtrooper3184 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And the Divinity Machine will exist... Probably.

    • @ulamoggyre958
      @ulamoggyre958 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@thespaceman8231 yes

  • @mekingtiger9095
    @mekingtiger9095 ปีที่แล้ว +1034

    Honestly, the concept of growing actual organic brains, even minituarized ones, with just a few cells or loose tissues grown artificially out of an actual organism to do tasks or control a computer sounds FAR more terrifying than the digital AIs...

    • @subbot8077
      @subbot8077 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      that’s basically the plot of Bladerunner lmao

    • @weirdojo2392
      @weirdojo2392 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      It's conceptually uncanny

    • @GodOfLovers1111
      @GodOfLovers1111 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes

    • @DaTLMusic
      @DaTLMusic ปีที่แล้ว +18

      ​@@subbot8077you mean psycho pass right

    • @shweedy_
      @shweedy_ ปีที่แล้ว +12

      its not terrifying, its exciting

  • @zoz2124
    @zoz2124 ปีที่แล้ว +804

    As a PhD student in biomedical engineering focusing on stem cells and blood vessel organoids, this series is a awesome to watch and gives me a lot of ideas to try!

    • @jan-Sopija
      @jan-Sopija ปีที่แล้ว +41

      oh no a smart person

    • @starblight22
      @starblight22 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I find this stuff fascinating, i have one more year of high-school and plan on going into biomedical engineering, i feel i know what it's about pretty well but I'd love if you could spare the time to explain some of the things you and/or your colleagues do in as much detail you seem fit. Thanks in advance.

    • @jan-Sopija
      @jan-Sopija ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Jason-rp3jg no but they might actually do something with this idea instead of "can you run doom on a brain" (and j realise that theyre making the brain cells play doom instead of run it I used 'run doom' to emphasize the meme origin of this)

    • @beaclaster
      @beaclaster ปีที่แล้ว +1

      oh no I'm scared of what your ideas may be

    • @starblight22
      @starblight22 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jan-Sopija yeah like helping paralyzed people interact with the world in unique and useful ways. The applications of using cells with computers and stuff as well as modifying them are endless.

  • @AppliedScience
    @AppliedScience ปีที่แล้ว +274

    Fascinating work, man! I'm really glad and impressed to see your progress.

  • @cream5439
    @cream5439 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    babe wake up new horrific state of consciousness just dropped

  • @seleckt6600
    @seleckt6600 ปีที่แล้ว +5437

    Ah yes. One more step towards servitors and man made horrors beyond our comprehension. Excellent work.

    • @rinoksilpshiknimenyaa
      @rinoksilpshiknimenyaa ปีที่แล้ว +84

      Black mirror for real

    • @realxrust
      @realxrust ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Fangyuan838you reminded me of the SOMA game, you should probably check it out if you haven’t. Touches upon storing your mind as a file.

    • @sofieselene
      @sofieselene ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Man made horrors beyond our comprehension - or wonders beyond our comprehension. It just depends on whether humanity continues to value human/sentient rights.

    • @davidf2244
      @davidf2244 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sick. I don't believe experience is sacred if it even exists in some meaningful way. So bring it

    • @wyldelf2685
      @wyldelf2685 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Remember the AI replicators on StarGate SGI ???

  • @Marzipannn
    @Marzipannn ปีที่แล้ว +1600

    Adding "making home grown brain cells remember doom mechanics" to my list of man made horrors no longer beyond imagination

    • @BiggityBoggity8095
      @BiggityBoggity8095 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Putting here cuz no responses
      OP is factually wrong when he says that doom is only 2d. The game is legitimately 3 dimensional.

    • @Mrree250
      @Mrree250 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Imagine what governments around the world are doing in a deep dark lab somewhere

    • @Natsukashii-Records
      @Natsukashii-Records ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Mrree250 Remaking old non threatening dog viruses into human-spread diseases?

    • @Mrree250
      @Mrree250 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Natsukashii-Records ☺️not the government silly! They would never do such an awful thing

    • @mohandamrouche7470
      @mohandamrouche7470 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BiggityBoggity8095 Okay can i have your truth about what you claim ?? Because i never played dooms but have digg into a lot a video that explain dooms ! And to what i know it is not 3d at all ! Only 2d image pre selected through the view of the player to only render a multi 2d image "collage" or paste together ! That why dooms can be play on a electronic pregnancy test of even electric thermometer ! And if you say well there is stair and level .... Well yes but it still in 2d ! When you use a elevator or a doors sometime the game teleport you to a another location in a 2d map ! what you see is only a 2d rendering and the clever trick of John carmack (wich is not is own idea there is a github explain the code to anyone with a goode levl in math ) is to only a reverse square formula to skip the impossible 3d rendering they were aiming to do ! Just think about it it was a time were Graphic card wasnt even at 1gig of ram for the randoms pc owner ! But i'll be more than happy to be wrong and learn a feww things about it ! But i'm sure the first 3d engine weren't 3d at all and use a trick to rendering false 3d ! You know that's why you can't have bullet impact on the wall or smoke grenade ... it's particule rendering or 3d object with own physic wich the game can copy and lie about but can not do by the way redering doom is ; Just like the video say the game is 2d :/

  • @davidcotham1939
    @davidcotham1939 ปีที่แล้ว +596

    Imagine having different batches compete against each other in Quake. Then through years of tweaking and improving generations of this, you create the ultimate force of gaming neurons.

    • @Dengar97
      @Dengar97 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Or you could take the best specimens and turn them against actual people to conquer the world.

    • @LtdJorge
      @LtdJorge ปีที่แล้ว +19

      ​@@Dengar97they would only know how to play Quake, tho!

    • @accuratehvacr
      @accuratehvacr ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ultimate war machine

    • @Darth_Bateman
      @Darth_Bateman ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Dengar97I don’t want to take the best specimens and turn them against actual people, Spider-Man!

    • @przemysawnowakowski
      @przemysawnowakowski ปีที่แล้ว +6

      And then release them into multiplayer

  • @lilliecelestedavis7968
    @lilliecelestedavis7968 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +634

    making the biomechanical brain ai orgasm every time it kills something couldn’t possibly go wrong

    • @maosephxingstalinping6510
      @maosephxingstalinping6510 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      Skynet

    • @peppermintgal4302
      @peppermintgal4302 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      ​@@maosephxingstalinping6510 Skynet, but with a xenomorph for a brain. :D

    • @maosephxingstalinping6510
      @maosephxingstalinping6510 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@peppermintgal4302 Make this a movie

    • @randomspartanhoe4501
      @randomspartanhoe4501 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      "orgasm".

    • @WetAdek
      @WetAdek 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@maosephxingstalinping6510just a movie? I'd say make it reality.

  • @jackpfefferkorn3734
    @jackpfefferkorn3734 ปีที่แล้ว +1088

    Everybody was asking "Can it run DOOM?" But nobody thought to ask "Can I run DOOM?"

    • @CarlHedgehog
      @CarlHedgehog ปีที่แล้ว +51

      e1m1 starts playing (in my mind)

    • @The_OwO_Shogun
      @The_OwO_Shogun ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Can you?

    • @Hexagons7
      @Hexagons7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@The_OwO_Shogun yes

    • @hiphyro
      @hiphyro ปีที่แล้ว +26

      i think if you can play doom you can run doom because you're experiencing it which I think would mean you're simulating what you're experiencing in your head (to some degree)

    • @apIthletIcc
      @apIthletIcc ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The answer is yes.

  • @matthewpritchard9777
    @matthewpritchard9777 ปีที่แล้ว +902

    i remember watching the rat cells control the flight simulator like 17 years ago on the science channel. i'm so glad that you have revived this and brought it back to people's attention.

    • @socialgutbrain7774
      @socialgutbrain7774 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      That was 17 years ago?! Holy shi

    • @matthewpritchard9777
      @matthewpritchard9777 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@socialgutbrain7774 apparently it happened all the way back in 2004

    • @firek9195
      @firek9195 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@socialgutbrain7774 we are far behind actually development of science

    • @eldiospalomo2334
      @eldiospalomo2334 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@matthewpritchard9777then it happened 19 years ago

    • @thearpox7873
      @thearpox7873 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@firek9195 What do you mean by that?

  • @kingmonkey460
    @kingmonkey460 ปีที่แล้ว +801

    This is absolutely stunning on my opinion. The fact that this can be a real, living thing with very primitive intelligence, and it learns how to play a geme. But at the same time, this is funny because just imagine you wake up and you're just Doom guy

    • @Twekion
      @Twekion ปีที่แล้ว +93

      This is what the neurons are experiencing
      "You have been selected to become Doomguy!"
      "Huh, what???"

    • @elfstar7514
      @elfstar7514 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@Twekion what if neurons could learn to make TH-cam comments. anyone one of us could just be a pile of bottled robot flesh and no one would know

    • @manuell3505
      @manuell3505 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      It's highly exaggerated. Most functioning, like the idea of aiming and firing is based on binary computer logic. Only dedicated decision-making might add a tiny bit to what otherwise would be a program with some RNG-trickery.

    • @armanazmiibnamin1108
      @armanazmiibnamin1108 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@manuell3505 You missed the joke buddy 😅

    • @manuell3505
      @manuell3505 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@armanazmiibnamin1108 And that is? Calling bs...

  • @TheLonelyStreetLight
    @TheLonelyStreetLight ปีที่แล้ว +34

    “Though unlike the missile the array doesn’t know where it is” bro I just got flashbacks of that missile meme

  • @toul100
    @toul100 ปีที่แล้ว +2632

    The fact that the last living memories of this rats brain is quite literally a hell on earth is crazy.

    • @robinvegas4367
      @robinvegas4367 ปีที่แล้ว +110

      *mars

    • @SobeCrunkMonster
      @SobeCrunkMonster ปีที่แล้ว +239

      a bundle of neurons is not going to be formulating conscientious memories or thoughts or feelings.

    • @chilling_at_pontiff
      @chilling_at_pontiff ปีที่แล้ว +262

      ​@Nobddylet me lower your neuron count to >2000 ,and see how much you remember

    • @noahboucher125
      @noahboucher125 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      ​@@chilling_at_pontiffThe number of cells has very little to do with their function. A dog's brain is way bigger than a rat's, but they aren't significantly smarter.

    • @Bumblebee2361
      @Bumblebee2361 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ​@@SobeCrunkMonster I was actually pretty worried about this. Thank you.

  • @JustWhyFFS
    @JustWhyFFS ปีที่แล้ว +1112

    Think we've finally taken the old "yea, but can it run doom?" meme, far enough

    • @BlackShardStudio
      @BlackShardStudio ปีที่แล้ว +4

      lol

    • @Numbabu
      @Numbabu ปีที่แล้ว +129

      Can’t wait to get the new doom port installed in my frontal cortex

    • @Paul_Bedford
      @Paul_Bedford ปีที่แล้ว +66

      No. Until we design the universe to play doom, we will never be finished.

    • @BobbyBlockable
      @BobbyBlockable ปีที่แล้ว +40

      They were so focused on seeing if it could run Doom they didn't stop to think should it run Doom

    • @twistedyogert
      @twistedyogert ปีที่แล้ว +12

      No, that would involve removing someone's brain and spinal cord and using that to play Doom.

  • @bunsenn5064
    @bunsenn5064 ปีที่แล้ว +762

    Imagine creating what is essentially a completely organic supercomputer just to play Doom

    • @superlexaan_
      @superlexaan_ ปีที่แล้ว +35

      You might like playing Rain World then!

    • @superlexaan_
      @superlexaan_ ปีที่แล้ว +14

      You might like playing Rain World then!

    • @PoopooTf2
      @PoopooTf2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You might like playing rainworld then!

    • @psychicchicken5263
      @psychicchicken5263 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You might like playing Rain World then!

    • @basicmudkip5985
      @basicmudkip5985 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You might like playing Rain World then!

  • @hackmaster124
    @hackmaster124 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    It's cool you guys are using Intan. I do neuroscience research at a university and Intan is our go-to for ephys stuff. The RHS system is really nice being able to stim and record at the same time. The amp settling rate sucks though, it's like half a second before the recording signal is reliable.
    We go through a lot of those headstages because we use them with awake rats. Gotta love those NIH grants XD

  • @thetheinen8419
    @thetheinen8419 ปีที่แล้ว +340

    I don't think Carmack or Romero could have ever have predicted that people would do this with their game

    • @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413
      @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      carmack is from the 5th dimension he already knew

    • @jacklansdale77
      @jacklansdale77 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Incorporeal entity John carmack knows everything.

  • @RandumbPersun
    @RandumbPersun ปีที่แล้ว +1704

    3 questions of the internet:
    Can it play doom?
    can it show bad apple?
    can it sound out megalovania?

    • @Alexandrek1922
      @Alexandrek1922 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      Can it rick roll

    • @vonelgamer3071
      @vonelgamer3071 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Can
      It
      Squirt?

    • @unknownvariable2456
      @unknownvariable2456 ปีที่แล้ว

      You forgot one
      Is there p*rn of it?

    • @Shinkajo
      @Shinkajo ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Does it blend?

    • @Swagpion
      @Swagpion ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Bad apple is the least impressive, megalovania requires some effort, and doom requires the most computing power.

  • @s.r.howell1297
    @s.r.howell1297 ปีที่แล้ว +639

    I've got a feeling that DOOM is going to be a test of choice for the next 1000 years.

    • @muguly4591
      @muguly4591 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      In the next 1000 years humans will be the test choice

    • @ClancayCargo
      @ClancayCargo ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@muguly4591we already are the test of choice.

    • @muguly4591
      @muguly4591 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ClancayCargo yeah but it's getting worse and worse and people are going to normalize it and then we're screwed

    • @Stetch42
      @Stetch42 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That or Skyrim

    • @Pablo-zx6ki
      @Pablo-zx6ki ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Doom is eternal

  • @jaymikevillanueva1212
    @jaymikevillanueva1212 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I recall in Star Trek, they have something called bio-neutral gel packs. The concept is that neural-based processors which allow "fuzzy logic" for faster processing time.
    This is cool.

  • @natecus4926
    @natecus4926 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    The fact that you explain it in a way that makes me feel that I can do this shows that you are an amazing teacher

  • @charlietheuncreative6737
    @charlietheuncreative6737 ปีที่แล้ว +892

    I am INCREDIBLY excited for these manmade horrors beyond comprehension

    • @lubricustheslippery5028
      @lubricustheslippery5028 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      He is going to release hell on earth

    • @Lil_Harvard
      @Lil_Harvard ปีที่แล้ว +63

      Well I can comprehend these horrors just fine, must be a skill issue 😎

    • @mrjoe332
      @mrjoe332 ปีที่แล้ว

      I might even kiss them on one of their many mouths

    • @sanstheblaster2626
      @sanstheblaster2626 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      >man-made
      >beyond comprehension
      Pick one.

    • @st.altair4936
      @st.altair4936 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@sanstheblaster2626 TH-cam is man-made, yet its algorithms are not fully understood by anyone on the planet.
      Current LLMs like gpt 4 are also man-made, and their algorithms are not understood at all.
      Man-made =/= comprehensible

  • @thewizardtk
    @thewizardtk ปีที่แล้ว +2477

    Imagine a whole room filled with irrigated brain mass used as an advanced AI system… Kind of horrific if you think about it

    • @kylehankins5988
      @kylehankins5988 ปีที่แล้ว +243

      Yeah it would be pretty fucked up if that thing was actually sentient, if not I guess it’s fine

    • @benjaminmiller3620
      @benjaminmiller3620 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Read any Peter Watts?

    • @soldierinsane2689
      @soldierinsane2689 ปีที่แล้ว +133

      There’s so much potential here, this development could usher in a new age. Giant mother brain computer mechs

    • @jacobydotwin
      @jacobydotwin ปีที่แล้ว +117

      imagine playing the next cod game in 2074 using a gaming pc with brain matter in it

    • @maxk5065
      @maxk5065 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      you mean "psychopass"?

  • @VaImorian
    @VaImorian 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Halfway through the video I forgot the whole purpose of this video and was just really fascinated about it all and then I was like "wait this dood is gonna play DOOM on these things lmfao"

  • @Nerdnumberone
    @Nerdnumberone ปีที่แล้ว +2315

    How complex does an array of rat neurons have to get before "negative reinforcement" becomes "pain"?

    • @Nerdnumberone
      @Nerdnumberone ปีที่แล้ว +369

      Also, does using human neurons matter at this point, or is it more a matter of how many neurons you can cram into it?

    • @the_devolper
      @the_devolper ปีที่แล้ว +365

      @@Nerdnumberone I would assume human neurons are better at doing what they do because they need to organize in a more complex way in the brain and so they are better at creating useful connections... As for the pain thing I think that you would need to have a real brain to have the "pain problem": it would have to be really complex to begin suffering I think, and also if you tune the system right even if it had self consciousness (that I think is needed to suffer) you would not need to make it really suffer: it's enough to make an error create an unpleasant situation and a correct response a pleasant one I think, no need for pain

    • @coyotedomino
      @coyotedomino ปีที่แล้ว +334

      @@the_devolper all things suffer, on with the torture

    • @tennicksalvarez9079
      @tennicksalvarez9079 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      @@coyotedomino brutal bro brutal.... Love it

    • @feuerling
      @feuerling ปีที่แล้ว +356

      A brain can't actually feel pain. It would need pain receptors.

  • @barry6541
    @barry6541 ปีที่แล้ว +949

    Now you should turn it into a computer that can render a CGI spinning rat

    • @TheGuyWhoComments
      @TheGuyWhoComments ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Make the rat make a program architecture capable of making architecture to create more rat programs

    • @kentozapater8972
      @kentozapater8972 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Imagine you just gain consciousness and you see your rat mother spinning into the void with a tpose

    • @TheGuyWhoComments
      @TheGuyWhoComments ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@kentozapater8972 for all you know I’m actually spinning rat that’s been given TH-cam access

    • @Partyturtle357
      @Partyturtle357 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I USED THE RAT TO MAKE THE RAT

    • @TheGuyWhoComments
      @TheGuyWhoComments ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Partyturtle357 yes

  • @garrettfreeborn3985
    @garrettfreeborn3985 ปีที่แล้ว +556

    Doom was all about demonic living tissue being fused to machinery, the fact that its the game you use to test all of this is simply amazing! This project is incredible and I truly believe in the near future it will be fully appreciated. Keep up the AMAZING work!!!

    • @Dejawolfs
      @Dejawolfs ปีที่แล้ว +20

      i thought that was quake. in doom AFAIK you just straight up murder demons from hell.

    • @NoxysPlace
      @NoxysPlace ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I thought doom was a game about a guy pissed at demons killing his pet rabbit

    • @donda2111
      @donda2111 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@Dejawolfs He's referring to the cyberdemon, the revenant, the spider mastermind, the arachnotrons, the mancubus and the icon of sin, along with the various instances of some sections of levels having demonic meat tissue growing inside of man made structures and "infecting" them. Pretty much every doom game has multiple bio mechanical demon enemies.

    • @realitynowassigned
      @realitynowassigned ปีที่แล้ว

      @@donda2111 still NOT the moral of the game

    • @nick.19
      @nick.19 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@realitynowassigned-🤓🤓🤓🤓

  • @relixnova251
    @relixnova251 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Aw sweet man made horrors beyond my comprehension *sick heavy guitar riff*

  • @_Tesseract
    @_Tesseract ปีที่แล้ว +763

    We're just a bunch of neurons watching a bunch of neurons growing a bunch of neurons to play doom

    • @coolchannelyt
      @coolchannelyt ปีที่แล้ว +41

      But can it run Doom?

    • @ujvarig74
      @ujvarig74 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice joke! 😂

    • @Jakub98x
      @Jakub98x ปีที่แล้ว

      Ever tried dmt?

    • @_Tesseract
      @_Tesseract ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jakub98x how would I ever be able to afford that

    • @ujvarig74
      @ujvarig74 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@_Tesseract I don't think it's unaffordable lol

  • @Chris06660
    @Chris06660 ปีที่แล้ว +292

    the first ever lab grown brain tournament sounds incredible, and I wanna be here for the day that happens

    • @irmatroll
      @irmatroll ปีที่แล้ว +20

      He's going to Prestige himself into a jar. Worse, he's going to convince his lab partners to join him.

    • @irmatroll
      @irmatroll ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Jason-rp3jg most people today would likely be uncomfortable with the notion of grafting a human brain permanently into a computer. Especially in this format, where it's freedom is so dramatically reduced.

    • @thechazz3230
      @thechazz3230 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@irmatrollIf he and his partners don't have the morality and self control to stop themselves from doing this. They need to be involuntarily hospitalized. They are not well, they need help because this is pure sociopathy and something no one should ever even consider. They have lost it. I hope they realize the consequences of their actions are vile and reprehensible so they can get the therapy and psychiatric help they desperately need.

    • @The1Herton
      @The1Herton ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@thechazz3230you can't stop science m8

  • @robertfletcher1871
    @robertfletcher1871 ปีที่แล้ว +923

    Hold on, so the old-school sci-fi 'brain in a jar' concept might actually be possible? I feel nervous, yet intrigued...

    • @KaizokuSencho
      @KaizokuSencho ปีที่แล้ว +51

      "Arrooo" - Nixon's head

    • @The_scrongler1978
      @The_scrongler1978 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      I’m gonna turn into a robobrain

    • @MagnetizedBread
      @MagnetizedBread ปีที่แล้ว

      lol

    • @kekekessa
      @kekekessa ปีที่แล้ว +53

      The brain in a vat is a philosophical thought experiment and while certainly interesting, shall remain as such for quite a while, as keeping a mammalian brain alive in vitro would require some substantial leaps in science - not even mentioning the ethical concerns. Grown neuronal networks have nothing compared to the highly specialized cell types, nuclei and networks (and much more) we possess.

    • @Weldedhodag
      @Weldedhodag ปีที่แล้ว +35

      ​@@kekekessashut up im gonna be a cool robot

  • @sevs9550
    @sevs9550 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm gonna be mad if my entire existence is just a rat neuron running a simulation

  • @TheLazyBot
    @TheLazyBot ปีที่แล้ว +2198

    I demand to see more manmade horrors beyond my comprehension!

    • @brawlstars_SMG
      @brawlstars_SMG ปีที่แล้ว +17

      thats called death

    • @GMoth
      @GMoth ปีที่แล้ว +74

      This is a manmade horror perfectly within comprehension, no?
      Sometimes, the things that can be known are worse than the unknown.

    • @tachikomagaming2451
      @tachikomagaming2451 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      human creation is so beautiful

    • @cobgod1415
      @cobgod1415 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I can comprehend this pretty easily so that's your problem I guess

    • @sunnesonne
      @sunnesonne ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤓

  • @kpunkt98
    @kpunkt98 ปีที่แล้ว +559

    Love how more creators are embracing where missiles are and where they aren't.

    • @MouseGoat
      @MouseGoat ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ?

    • @ody1canobe
      @ody1canobe ปีที่แล้ว +73

      @@MouseGoatthe missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isnt

    • @mikuenjoyerXD
      @mikuenjoyerXD ปีที่แล้ว +18

      ​@@ody1canobethe missile knows where it is because it knows where it isn't

    • @lunarology9158
      @lunarology9158 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mikuenjoyerXDlmao i seen that same video

    • @gaiusfulmen
      @gaiusfulmen ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@mikuenjoyerXD By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, it can determine where it was---and where it wasn't

  • @PoliceTelephoneBox
    @PoliceTelephoneBox ปีที่แล้ว +1783

    I'm glad that the path to manmade horrors beyond comprehension is being recorded for posterity on TH-cam.

    • @nesnahnevard4907
      @nesnahnevard4907 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Hello future history teachers :D

    • @Virtualmassslave
      @Virtualmassslave ปีที่แล้ว +16

      doom is the way to go

    • @stiffori
      @stiffori ปีที่แล้ว +1

      how ominous, our doom starts in doom

    • @preppertrucker5736
      @preppertrucker5736 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Sci fi horrors beyond our comprehension coming soon 💀💀💀

    • @ultimatecultchaos
      @ultimatecultchaos ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed.

  • @Chucky5525
    @Chucky5525 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    @thethoughtemporium I downloaded this video to watch on my commute and I felt compelled to come here and write a comment. Watching those fluorescent neurons gave me some sort of nostalgia I haven't experienced before, it was as if the neurons in my brain remember the time when we were single celled organisms and had to work and compete with each other for survival. Seeing those dendrites made me think of the cosmos as a whole and how galaxies tend to form these super clusters that they too are connected to each other through their own special "dendrites" of plasma and magnetic filaments. The saying "as above so below" could not be more true! The work that you are doing is akin to what alchemists in the past have tried to achieve except the philosophers stone in this context is a fully functional cyborg

  • @TheGroundedCoffee
    @TheGroundedCoffee ปีที่แล้ว +523

    This project is unsettling in the most exquisite way possible and I love it. Giving off heavy "I Have No Mouth But I Must Scream" vibes.

    • @therealspeedwagon1451
      @therealspeedwagon1451 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Imagine if a super intelligent AI exterminated all humans except for a select few and they genetically modify them into living computers to live out the pain and suffering of being made up of several trillion wires spread out across several kilometers. That’s what I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream is. Seems like something fun the Qu would do though.

    • @TheGroundedCoffee
      @TheGroundedCoffee ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@therealspeedwagon1451 exactly. It brings the 'living in a simulation' hypothesis very close to home and I guess that is, to me, the most unsettling part. This isn't fiction, this is becoming reality, right here and now.

    • @hexagon2185
      @hexagon2185 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      tbh, it isn't as horrifying as people seem to make it out to be. After all, we're literally masses of neurons.

    • @50zezima
      @50zezima ปีที่แล้ว

      I guess maybe because ive experienced ego death before, I realize how extremely uneducated and ignorant you people are in the scheme of things. Just running in circles, killing things and torturing for eons and eons... Then being killed and tortured by those same creatures... Literally never learning from your own mistakes. Because you are unintelligent, and cringe.

    • @sirllamaiii9708
      @sirllamaiii9708 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This is cruelty squad irl

  • @joflo5950
    @joflo5950 ปีที่แล้ว +208

    I've been looking forward to this project for years. But now that it's here - I think I'm even more excited for IPSs and Brain Organoids. What you're doing in this video is crazy, but I had no idea these things could be done outside an institute or pharma company.
    Please keep up the good work! I don't want to wait a few more years for the next one.

    • @aitortilla5128
      @aitortilla5128 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Even if it can be done outside specialised centres the equipment needed is quite expensive so it's not reachable to everybody.

    • @Yuuri066
      @Yuuri066 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@aitortilla5128 the fact that it's available to anyone at all outside of a company lab like this alone is already crazy.

    • @JordanPlayz158
      @JordanPlayz158 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Yuuri066yeah, and if you can do it yourself, you can share what you learn and such (I'm sure at most of the places with the equipment, you'd need to sign NDAs)

    • @Gustoberg
      @Gustoberg ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Yuuri066 it's mostly because it is an extremely new and unregulated field (new in we're just now getting to grow these) in some years, if shit becomes like chatgpt it'll probably have more regulations

  • @EnigmaverseElysium
    @EnigmaverseElysium ปีที่แล้ว +607

    This reminds me of a thought experiment we had in philosophy, “Are we just brains in a vat?”. This video certainly puts things in a whole new perspective for me.

    • @usmanfatih6436
      @usmanfatih6436 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Imagine the rat neurons gain self-consciousness and then thinks that it is in a vat. Then some neurons agree but some disagree, and they/it will never know if it is in a computer. Really bends the definition of reality.

    • @pintolerance785
      @pintolerance785 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You took philosophy.

    • @Boiabba
      @Boiabba ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pintolerance785 No u

    • @IscAst4
      @IscAst4 ปีที่แล้ว

      🥱🥱

    • @stumbling
      @stumbling ปีที่แล้ว +8

      *PLEASANT FEEDBACK SOUND*

  • @TheOnlyBiodude
    @TheOnlyBiodude 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I made this game called life and forced millions of meat computers to play it. It was pretty epic.

  • @alexchunlin5527
    @alexchunlin5527 ปีที่แล้ว +776

    I can't believe I'm just a vat of neurons trained in a lab to simulate a life where I watch neurons trained to play doom

    • @BobSkating
      @BobSkating ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Botlzmann brain-like paradox

    • @venustrap3030
      @venustrap3030 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stop talking you electron stimulant I’m the one true vat of neurons

    • @ninjapowerx11
      @ninjapowerx11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Literally mythought though 😂 tell me thats not what we are now 😂 they can attach the nuerons to a meat suit or a robot, we are biological technology, biological being what we can "natural" 😂

  • @SpringySpring04
    @SpringySpring04 ปีที่แล้ว +1208

    Its interesting; I think that if the neurons that were being used as the AI to train to play DOOM were to become somehow sentient, that "brain" would, from a philosophical perspective, be able to perceive only the world of DOOM that it is connected to. Really makes simulation theory sound a lot more weird if we think of it in this type of context, lol!

    • @NotVergil
      @NotVergil ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Holy crap that's a brilliant idea

    • @SpringySpring04
      @SpringySpring04 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@NotVergil Vergil?!!!! lol

    • @icedqq
      @icedqq ปีที่แล้ว +83

      it only really sees the variables which is a bit scarier

    • @thomabow8949
      @thomabow8949 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Referring to the neurons involved as a brain isn't necessarily an appropriate use of the term, though I understand what you mean.

    • @SpringySpring04
      @SpringySpring04 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@thomabow8949 ah my mistake, you're right. I guess I meant brain in the metaphorical sense as a collection of neurons forming one? Idk I'm not a neurologist

  • @readmore8974
    @readmore8974 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    5:41 Appreciate the reference

  • @sldtyp0
    @sldtyp0 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +93

    Ok so this video taught me something. I have ADHD and get Overstimulated A LOT and when I do it’s chaotic noise and unintelligible yelling. The noise is chaotic and you said that neurons naturally try to avoid that and i definitely avoid being overstimulated so I bet that my brain is trying to get me to un-overstimulate myself

    • @hollypixie4285
      @hollypixie4285 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Have ADHD and can confirm. When I get overwhelmed, I describe it as my brain going "AAAAAAAHHHHHHH" repeatedly and forcefully.

    • @sldtyp0
      @sldtyp0 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@hollypixie4285 yeah it’s like that for me plus like static

    • @jayeisenhardt1337
      @jayeisenhardt1337 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@hollypixie4285 Do you also see cowboys singing in the sky?

  • @lilknox2225
    @lilknox2225 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    Ayyy update to the neuron project, who else has been waiting for this😂😂

  • @Justin-dv7ul
    @Justin-dv7ul ปีที่แล้ว +377

    someday these neurons will speedrun minecraft, and beat all the world records.

    • @the_devolper
      @the_devolper ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I think that it would not be that more difficult than what they are doing (obviously it is incredible in general)(I do not know basically anything on the subject apart from what they explained in the video): I think they would "just" have to make the thing bigger and write some more code that would still be similar, then I think, given that the smaller version works properly, that it should be able to play Minecraft, or at least perform relatively simple tasks in the game, like mining

    • @rach_66
      @rach_66 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      human brains have neurons, so that's already happening 🤓

    • @TerraKnight27
      @TerraKnight27 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      the neurons will "accidentally" install drop rate mods

    • @ARACHNIDPARTY
      @ARACHNIDPARTY ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TerraKnight27waiting for the day the neurons hire a rocket scientist to “debunk” their cheating scandal

    • @kh6853
      @kh6853 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not sure how they could beat the set seed any% TAS of 20 seconds...

  • @Eutropios
    @Eutropios ปีที่แล้ว +56

    5:37 Don't think you can slide that meme past me, sir.
    "The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't."

    • @helenbooth5109
      @helenbooth5109 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      By subtracting where it is from where it isn't...

    • @mechanicol5685
      @mechanicol5685 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@helenbooth5109 From where it isn't to where it is.

  • @Cornyone
    @Cornyone 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Breaking news: Man convinces a rodents brain that it is the fictional character 'doom slayer.'

  • @nithsk
    @nithsk ปีที่แล้ว +1717

    Imagine neurons being used like this at the scale of the original massive room sized computers from the 40s

    • @Spheraz
      @Spheraz ปีที่แล้ว +74

      the future of ai?

    • @moahammad1mohammad
      @moahammad1mohammad ปีที่แล้ว +263

      A giant cave made of living, thinking flesh

    • @Spooky90097
      @Spooky90097 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Search "Rain World: Iterators"

    • @Redbird_
      @Redbird_ ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ​@@moahammad1mohammadsomeone should anolog horror of this theme

    • @iosis9324
      @iosis9324 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      ​@@Spooky90097It's not a computer the size of a room, it's a computer the size of a city. And in my opinion, Iterators are not exactly biological.

  • @devonmcnealy8900
    @devonmcnealy8900 ปีที่แล้ว +210

    This is hands down my favorite channel. I can't wait to see small brain play doom.

  • @Rhuke
    @Rhuke ปีที่แล้ว +2143

    Imagine playing a multiplayer game someday, and you just get destroyed by literal neurons
    Edit: Istg people need to understand why I said *literal neurons* and not neurons controlling a human body 💀

    • @soupcangaming662
      @soupcangaming662 ปีที่แล้ว +157

      To be fair, we are basically neurons making controlled seizures (or shocks, heh) to a hunk of meat.
      Ennard controlling a corpse husk makes more sense now.

    • @amvora
      @amvora ปีที่แล้ว +94

      @@soupcangaming662just imagine how our flesh is miserable in gaming compared to naked neurones, while we have to see a threat, send a signal for our hand to contract index finger so that we shoot it, neurones basically see threats and shoot immediately

    • @whos_that_one_guy
      @whos_that_one_guy ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Test tube gaming

    • @wintergreen9949
      @wintergreen9949 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      ​@@amvora from the moment i understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me..

    • @Swingingbells
      @Swingingbells ปีที่แล้ว +15

      That's literally how it already works when you're playing against your fellow humans lmao

  • @time_keeper643
    @time_keeper643 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The human disregard for anything and everything natural amazes me. First me made rocks think, then we created life and placed it into the world controlled by those rocks for out own amusement.
    Great video and great project! I am glad I was able to experience it.

  • @matthewthomas1105
    @matthewthomas1105 ปีที่แล้ว +359

    Screw AI, this is literal reinforcement learning. I love it!

    • @cortster12
      @cortster12 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      Technically, this is also AI by every useful metric. Artificially grown neurons used for intelligent actions.

    • @Nugcon
      @Nugcon ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Artificial Natural Intelligence

    • @kilio1948
      @kilio1948 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@@NugconANI? Anni? Omg

    • @9bang88
      @9bang88 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@Nugconit's a servitor...

    • @Imperial_Lizardgirl
      @Imperial_Lizardgirl ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nonono this IS Actual Artificial intelligence!!!!

  • @josiahvalentine3430
    @josiahvalentine3430 ปีที่แล้ว +273

    The fact that a possible result could be coworkers having a doom tournament with brain clones is both hilarious and insanely fascinating

    • @Logos729
      @Logos729 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      And absolutely terrifying :D

    • @nikotheoneshot
      @nikotheoneshot ปีที่แล้ว +5

      my question is would these mock brains reflect their _actual_ brains at all

    • @lastyhopper2792
      @lastyhopper2792 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@nikotheoneshot I highly doubt that. For one, these brains don't have any memories from their actual brains.

    • @hae9903
      @hae9903 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@lastyhopper2792 But they would be genetically identical. Yes, they're only a couple thousand neurons but you could eventually make them larger. Where do you draw the line from a cluster of cells to a lab grown human without a body?

    • @lastyhopper2792
      @lastyhopper2792 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hae9903 Did I interpret sgtmajorkiwi's "reflect" differently from you?
      Anyhow, the answer to your question is I don't know. I believe the one who is responsible to find the answer to that question would be these scientists who are currently experimenting with biological brains.
      They have the ethical responsibility to prevent a conscious being from undergoing involuntary experiments.

  • @KirbyFokson
    @KirbyFokson ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Now I'm thinking "what if I'm just a ball of neurons in some simulation to see how far they can push a ball or neurons?". Right back into existential crisis mode lmao

  • @mmx2731
    @mmx2731 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This in depth video about your entire process is amazing!

  • @miguelvelez5348
    @miguelvelez5348 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    There's a trick to increase adhesion of PDMS to glass slabs, which is to treat the glass slab with plasma. Might help with the leakage of the biological glue. Maybe even PDMS serves as a good substitute.

    • @eldenjim
      @eldenjim ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Leakage of biological glue 🤤

    • @snail2755
      @snail2755 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@eldenjim Mmmm I could go for some biological glue right now

    • @tr3vk4m
      @tr3vk4m ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Use the Plasma Rifle. Or BFG if you need treat a large number of them at the same time.

    • @0NeeN0
      @0NeeN0 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@eldenjimSorry that I've been mean towards you in comment before, I had too much biological glue and had to drain it.

  • @TheGershon
    @TheGershon ปีที่แล้ว +495

    So let me get this straight: you guys are gonna grow Metroid clones of yourselves out of your own skin cells, and then train them to play competitive deathmatch against each other?
    Finally, the future's starting to seem interesting

    • @zport1853
      @zport1853 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      imagine training against a living trained clone of your cells in video games
      or cooping with one

    • @silentwraithgaming8631
      @silentwraithgaming8631 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @Blueness1230 we both know thats a lie

    • @Ensensu2
      @Ensensu2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I would settle for sperm races instead of horse races.

    • @gaintslash366
      @gaintslash366 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I want to do this

    • @bignuts3430
      @bignuts3430 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If by interesting you mean fucked up then, yes, it is.

  • @Superboy999YT
    @Superboy999YT ปีที่แล้ว +1759

    Imagine dying a peaceful way and all of a sudden, you wake up in Doom. (Thanks for 1.2k likes)

    • @Mystical_owl
      @Mystical_owl ปีที่แล้ว +23

      real

    • @WinterPains
      @WinterPains ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Terrifying

    • @emancules
      @emancules ปีที่แล้ว +20

      That’s prolly what hell is gonna be like for most people honestly

    • @jacobhake342
      @jacobhake342 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I mean, it is literal hell...

    • @kaden-sd6vb
      @kaden-sd6vb 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Just don't start making guttermen. I don't want to be stuck eternally on my deathbed as a warmachine's power source.

  • @maesdejardin8648
    @maesdejardin8648 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    "But can it play Doom"
    That really is THE benchmark for all things

  • @funtimedavi
    @funtimedavi ปีที่แล้ว +1450

    I didn’t have fear of AI until I know they’re doing living brain robots.

    • @bananaeclipse3324
      @bananaeclipse3324 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      The AI will become organic...

    • @Zoruk_
      @Zoruk_ ปีที่แล้ว +64

      That means we could make anime waifus irl tho

    • @NicCageForPresident2024
      @NicCageForPresident2024 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      ​​@Zoruk_ and they will destroy you just like a real wife. But worse.

    • @sadrakeyhany7477
      @sadrakeyhany7477 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@NicCageForPresident2024 I don't mind as long as the AI does it looking like makima...

    • @Enzo012
      @Enzo012 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      But we're living brain robots already?

  • @ultimateo621
    @ultimateo621 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    I am so hyped for the brain cell quake tournament. I cannot even begin to describe how excited I am.

    • @cwkapiushon
      @cwkapiushon ปีที่แล้ว

      @duccem2774 imagine cheating with neurons instead of scripts

  • @themrworf1701
    @themrworf1701 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    We tried to do this about 10 years ago at friend's home lab but it was hard for us to manufacture at home a decent PCB net. We didn't have nice low noise amps back then so we said fuck it and connect it to vacuum valve triodes and to the magic eye tubes, so it glowed randomly as neurons would fire. That was a cool looking thing, straight outta Frankenstein.

    • @realchiknuggets
      @realchiknuggets ปีที่แล้ว +1

      jesus. seek help

    • @themrworf1701
      @themrworf1701 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@realchiknuggets It's not even craziest thing we did.

    • @s43m
      @s43m ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@themrworf1701 I'm listening....

    • @questmarq7901
      @questmarq7901 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@themrworf1701 me2

    • @lumotroph
      @lumotroph ปีที่แล้ว

      Where’s the video! I’d love to see more

  • @spencerpark1459
    @spencerpark1459 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    One thing that might be interesting to test is the effects of Psilocybin during training. In humans it supposedly allows our neurons to rewire and communicate differently leading to neuroplacisity

  • @austin-aka-8106
    @austin-aka-8106 ปีที่แล้ว +201

    This is both fascinating and horrifying at the same time

  • @1oglop1
    @1oglop1 ปีที่แล้ว +269

    I can only imagine making a daily smoothie for my new PC to play the latest games

    • @bariumselenided5152
      @bariumselenided5152 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      I would gladly start feeding my pc if it meant I could play on ultra settings lol

    • @СергійДємєнтєєв
      @СергійДємєнтєєв ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Maybe for first few years, but then, I think that a "feeding network" will be established. Sidenote: Imagine if living blocks became literal living blocks. Will their walls be out of bones?

    • @mehundmeh5356
      @mehundmeh5356 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      i Image some cubes only Work with brand smoothie which are kind of expensiv 😅

    • @m0rjjj666
      @m0rjjj666 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      imagine the little shitter you need to empty after every gaming session

    • @QuixoteBadger
      @QuixoteBadger ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Like hydroponic gardening, except you are growing an aimbot.

  • @lookingforsomething
    @lookingforsomething ปีที่แล้ว +113

    What I like about this is that it's like a simplified research paper, but just made so that many people feel as if it's digestible and understandable. It helps that there are pop culture things to attach to as well (games), but I really started thinking that many research papers could be presented this way in the future if we open our minds a little (heh).
    Amazing work and thank you for the video!

  • @lua_programmer
    @lua_programmer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    They gotta make it into an isekai
    "That time I got reincarnated into a rat. Now I play DOOM for the rest of my short live"

  • @nomekop777
    @nomekop777 ปีที่แล้ว +250

    The concept of a cyborg in science fiction has never, as far as I know, started with a machine and added organs to it. So this is really neat, if a little scary

    • @DefaultFlame
      @DefaultFlame ปีที่แล้ว +35

      It has a few times, but it's very rare. For example, in the Eclipse Phase TTRPG your character can be an AI that saved up money from it's dayjob of managing social media for a megacorp and left cyberspace in an artificially made biological body it bought to walk around in the "real" world with, because it wants to LARP as a street samurai.

    • @nomekop777
      @nomekop777 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@DefaultFlame and there's Bicentennial Man

    • @DefaultFlame
      @DefaultFlame ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@nomekop777 True. I've also seen it mentioned in a few sci-fi stories, though I couldn't name any of them to save my life.

    • @kydelvetus642
      @kydelvetus642 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What about the T-800 terminator? It has a skeletal form that is 100% a machine, and living tissue can be added on top of it to turn it into an infiltrator terminator

    • @funnyvalentinedidnothingwrong
      @funnyvalentinedidnothingwrong ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@kydelvetus642I think the lack of meaningful connection to the machine makes it not a cyborg. It's a full machine, it's just wearing skin like a costume.

  • @nc2526
    @nc2526 ปีที่แล้ว +636

    This could be a plot for "That time i got reincarnated in a video game, but that game was doom, so I decided to live a slow life in hell".

    • @MouseGoat
      @MouseGoat ปีที่แล้ว +21

      yeah, guy might accidentally make doom slayer D:

    • @mordet2
      @mordet2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Damn, sounds authentic.

    • @atleast4566
      @atleast4566 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Would we call that a meatsekai? 😆

    • @Electronica27
      @Electronica27 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Blended Rat: Blended Rat

    • @Electronica27
      @Electronica27 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That time I was put into a blender and transported into a video game world!

  • @reformed1trick739
    @reformed1trick739 ปีที่แล้ว +526

    I'm a biologist working in a lab as I watch this video in the background. Well done, I have most of this equipment around me in a professional setting and I love how you are educating the public in a fun way. The video is also well done

    • @lua-nya
      @lua-nya ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I like all the different methods and reasoning behind them for their array prototypes. Though my professional setting biology lab experience is on "please fix computer" level. Really liked some parts of those three months, the biologists were willing to explain so many things to a mere sysadmin.

    • @ronisamurp
      @ronisamurp ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yeah? Where’s your DOOM AI then?

    • @mikhailgavrilov8980
      @mikhailgavrilov8980 ปีที่แล้ว

      They didn't make it in the video

    • @reformed1trick739
      @reformed1trick739 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mikhailgavrilov8980 make what? I was commenting on how they are using the lab equipment and making educational content

    • @autumn1546
      @autumn1546 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So given that it's your field, you could make a rat brain to play doom eternal? :) I expect the video this time next month

  • @beautifulsmall
    @beautifulsmall 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    20 yrs ago I tried growing plant cell cultures , and failed but the journey was fascinating, Amazing what can be done now, and what a destination.