The 2023 Kia EV6 GT Is A Wickedly Quick EV With Compromises
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 มี.ค. 2023
- The #KiaEV6 has been a huge hit for #Kia when it arrived over a year ago, and now the company is looking to entice enthusiasts looking for speed and are willing to sacrifice range. The #EV6GT is the most powerful production Kia ever, with performance stats that would embarrass a lot of sports car. Just be sure you’re willing to lose about 50% of the range versus a GT-Line version.
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I’ve had my GT for almost two months now. I have an above average commute of about 70 miles round trip every day into Seattle and back. The range, for me, is not an issue as at the end of the day, I still have enough charge to do whatever I have to do after work and then I plug it into our level 2 charger we had installed and I’m good. However, I have not attempted a road trip in this car, nor would I. My wife’s Ioniq 5 gets nearly 300 miles of range (286, I believe? Maybe?), so we’d go that route if we wanted to head to the mountains or the coast. So in my average daily use of the vehicle, it suits me just fine. But those are a very specific set of parameters: I drive roughly 70 miles and some change a day, though it’s on the highway which impacts overall range, I only charge to a max of 80% and I’m able to do so at home on a level 2 charger. So while an extremely fun car, it’s certainly not for everyone. That could be said about most EVs, though. We’re still kind of the tip of the spear here. Range and charging times will improve and charging infrastructure will expand and improve once the government figures out the way to squeeze the most money out of us for it.
So what is the point of getting this car? Because it's fast? Big deal. People would be smart to save money and get the regular Kia GT. It's plenty fast, plus better range and cooled seats. 🙄🙄
@@wazgoodjj Because it's really fun to drive, as mentioned the range doesn't affect me, I can afford it and I don't give a shit about cooled seats? I don't know. 🙄🙄🙄 What is the point of buying any car? Because it meets at the apex of joy, value and required practicality for any given person.
@@wazgoodjj The point of this car? You get a car that can destroy 99.5 cars on the road, can haul a small boat, don't have to pay for gas, great for families, and is a complete sleeper on the road. I just drove my GT from Houston to San Antonio no problem with only 1 stop in a small city. It's a great car.
Please add pricing to the Powertrain Specs screen. That would be really helpful.
Other than the range being a bit low, I would consider one, I love the design. And for people complaining about manual seats, have you seen a Mustang with Recaros or a high performance Porsche? They also have manual seats and cost way more. Kia could have put power seats in it, they just didn't.
Yes but this doesn’t have recaros,. It has normal Kia seats with manual adjustment.
@@MitchM240 These seats are the same as in Hyundai N models, they gave them only manual adjustment so they could mount them lower.
I have one and I am getting much better range than in this review. I do live in the SF Bay Area where temperatures are more favorable. Yesterday it was 55-60 degrees and I drove 79 miles - almost all on the freeway at 70mph and got 3.2 mi./ kWh. which equals 240-250 miles of range. This was in Normal mode, not Eco. Normal has plenty of power. The day before I did 40 miles, half freeway and half surface streets and got 3.5 mi./ kWh. - roughly 270 miles of range. I have read many complaints about lack of range for this car but, so far, I am doing way better than I expected - and overall I love the car. The fit and finish is top notch, the seats are wonderful (I couldn’t care less that they are manual) and all the driving aids and electronics work very well. It’s also blazing fast. I had an order in for a BMW i4 M50, but after one test-drive in the Kia, I forgot all about the BMW.
Biggest reason it’s rated so low is the massive wheels and extra grippy tires. Swap it with the 19s and it can easily do 250-260 miles of combined driving range
@@ayushmalpeddi2793 sure, me too
Too bad Kia dealerships are some of the worst when it comes to dealer markups. Great review as always!
theyre coming down now that ev tax credits are only for american built cars
Yeah, this dealer here charging 30k extra markup. I ended up getting a Mach-E GT, plus I get tax credit. One car length in drag racing, who cares? lol
Holy cow. I thought I was the only one. They had a Hyundai ionic 6 base model at $67,000
If more people walked out on those stupid high markups they'd sell at MSRP once they don't sell anything on the lot. Mum got a car with 0% in December just because they wanted to get rid off it. 😅
Fast forward and I ended up getting the GT line after all. it's plenty fast for me and I just could not get comfortable in the seats of the GT. also it made my lady friends sick to her stomach lol. what a smooth and enjoyable car to drive.
Great review. I hope Kia takes your critique seriously enough to improve the 2024 release, starting with audio quality and the seats, followed by the acid green highlights would benefit from additional color options.
I had an absolute blast driving this car for a week but boy are you NOT buying it for efficiency or range. at least it can charge quick!
Let's not forget about the Genesis GV60 Performance. I own one. It's beautiful and almost as fast.
I recently test drove this GT model and months ago the GT-line and found the GT to be the only one I would buy. I never drive more than 100 miles in a day so I am OK with range. It is just that much more fun to drive and as one reviewer suggested might have a more comfortable and adjustable ride with its adaptive suspension settings than the lower trim levels. I found it to be surprisingly nice even in GT mode. The power does not seem crazy or harsh either but very usable in all the modes. I even parked it back in the lot in GT mode - no problem. Don't care about the power seats but rather the adjustability is what is missing and side bolstering is a little much for everyday driving. This can be addressed by upholstery specialists which is actually done in a lot of high priced cars so should not be a deal breaker. This vehicle is really the only EV I have driven that I liked enough to buy that is also less than 6 figures.
Yeah--If you punch this car it will destroy most cars on the road
Agree with you. Not a fan of only having a dark choice. Manual seat is a deal breaker. Ventilated seats is a strong must have for me. How much does it really cost to have 1 touch windows all around?? The sound system should be at least as good as a Stinger from 3-4 years ago. The display screens look really nice. No wireless CarPlay or OTA updates seems lazy. LOVE the charge time. They got that part right which is a good thing because the range is lacking. It would be great to see a bigger battery to allow for better range. Rear seat legroom looks really good!
Agree with you 100%. Especially at this price point, it's inexcusable to have those things lacking, and with such low range. I know people will buy this car, I just don't know why they would as there are so many better options out there.
@@zmarko 🎯
@@zmarko Agree 100%.
@@zmarkoplease name one better EV option around this price or less.
PROPER color... stuntin on central Pennsylvania w/ dat Runway Red. Enjoy Redline crew
I looked at this car. Dealers and manual seats killed it for me.
Excellent detailed review!
For better 0 to 60 times, put the regen to 0 :)
It does not matter who's car it is, reflector headlights will always be subpar. Ask Ford how that went for them.😂😂
Kia included the dead bug in the frunk for scale.
😂😂😂
A couple of miscues need correcting. In both Sport and Normal mode I have seen 429 hp listed not 480. Moreover I believe the GT-line only gets about 46 miles more of range so more like 250 in awd trim not 270. Perhaps you were listing what the 2 wheel drive gets which is a whole different animal with half the power. There is also a download fix for the stereo system available though my tester sounded pretty darn good. Lastly if you put the car in drift mode people are saying it is even faster to 60 mph maybe right about 3 seconds wow. Thanks
I can't understand why reviewers are so bothered about the seats being manually operated. I get a new car, adjust the seat and thats it done. I may have to adjust once per year after a mechanic has been in it but apart from that it never moves. Added to that, manual adjustment is much quicker. I just don't get the fuss.
576 HP?? that's like 4 corollas
4 prius 😂
Ain’t no way in hell I will buy a 60,000 plus vehicle and I have a manual seat. The manufacturers in that room need to all be slapped. I can’t believe they all were in agreement on the seat. Yes that’s a deal breaker
I almost agreed with you but then I realized I never have to even adjust my seat, and if I did for some reason one day, it's simple and not a big deal.
You will be surprised a lot of new car that is top of the line model come with manual seat
I've been waiting for a small electric sedan or hot hatch to hit the market. I broke down and spent some money on some expensive tuning upgrades for my S5 recently and now this comes out. Oh well, maybe I'll try and find one for a test drive anyhow.
Those tires cost $460+ EACH and the tires alone weigh 33 lbs EACH. it doesn’t look like you can reduce the wheel diameter much without hitting the brake caliper. This car could be much quicker than it is if it had smaller diameter wheels and tires.
one guy on facebook got 20s on his
@@bigdi77 it would need 18s to make a really big difference.
Test prove it doesn’t matter much in these high torque EVs.
Their dealer network has damaged their reputation when Covid started
What does this mean?
Word. Crooks, the lot of them.
What?
Thats every manufacture
The styling is fantastic. Option availability needs to be adjusted (no power seat, mediocre 'up-level' stereo?) 😲
Heated seat and steering wheel are useless features in my country. They should be ventilated. Manual adjustement seats, it's ok for me. I'm sure in my country it would a better range because of the weather and temperature 30 - 32⁰ C. However I think it's a good looking car
The Kia EV6 is very nice, but it needs to get better range. The short range of 200 miles will create range anxiety.
Most people purchasing a car in this price have other vehicles in the household.
Right, no point of buying EV that range 200 miles. I will buy tesla
@P40 you'd be in for a surprise if you expect 300 miles of actual range in a Y or a 3
@@kromahj or you can simply buy ioniq 5 or regular ev6. better looking for sure and it's much better put together.
Not really, my Vette had shorter range. The Kia charges in 18 minutes. There are charging stations everywhere.
I wouldn't compromise distance for speed,these EV's have to get better before I even consider one.
This is a performance model, the other trims have close to 300. Most gas cars maybe have a effective range of 350 at most. Also most people according to the data drive at most 100 to 150 miles per week. So what's your point?
Majority of performance gasoline cars have about 200 miles of range too. And in the real world for those already own EV, they learned they don't even use 20% of battery on daily basis
Felt the same way about the seat front portion by the knee is to pointed up, so youre leaned back, but I was much impressed with the interior. The seat was comfortable to me. 3.8 seconds in normal mode lmao, thats fast.
Should've had that new key that the Telluride has. It's so sleek
Was that ~3.4 0-60 mph with or without rollout subtracted?
from a dead stop
Now we are close to mid '24, there are no markups plus lots of discounts, Kia is offering/eating the $7500 discount directly plus dealer discounts upwards of $3k or more. Plus they have had excellent OTA updates with the navigation and sound improved, with the sound system sounding MUCH better than new with a few weeks of break in time. Yes, I was surprised myself that software updates and break in time helped the sound so much, but it really does. I ended up going with the GT Line, which has power and ventilated seats with all the rest of the GT features, other than power. It is still PLENTY quick and I easily can hit 260 miles of range.
This will be my 1st Kia EV to get it Sofyan.
We don’t need super fast ev’s we need economical ev’s that can atleast offer good range in my opinion tesla and Chevy bolt euv are the only options in the mkt that gives great range within price
Yep this thing will run out of juice really fast if you try having any sort of fun with, it's actually worse than many gas sports cars
Yes sir i totally agree with u
You can always pick up a RWD EV6 Wind model for around $38K.
I would love for you to do a comparison test between the Jaguar I-Pace and the EV6 . Although vastly different in price, it is very similar in many other ways .
Kia needs to solve their range problem. Beyond that the headlights in the EV6 are pretty lackluster it seems? They're so close to being a no-brainer decision
I'm curious how the range would be in Eco mode compared to the GT-Line AWD? Seems to me that if it also disconnects the front motor the range would be pretty close between the two models in Eco mode...
The cold going b killer don’t matter
Nope. Wheel & tire combination is what is killing the range. The disconnect helps, but it still won't get as much range as the siblings.
Yeah. If you poke around the owner forums you’ll see folk reporting a lot more range. The range numbers in this review are all over the place: comparing a week of cold driving with no mention of style with EPA or even WLTP figures for the other models is dodgy journalism. This car was driven on a test in Finland, in the cold, till it was dead at 238 miles.
In the U.K. it is advertised with its WLTP range of up to 265 miles.
In eco mode and driving super easy, I'm getting 250 mile range in ev6 gt. Commute is half highway and half city.
Can you drive this car as if you’re driving the regular EV6 and get the range of the EV6?
1:34 Wow. They gave it to you without the latest software update.
That's just not enough range. Yeah, I get that the draw of this model is the performance but that range is unusable and I'd even say worthless for that price tag. Even the model 3 performance can get 300+ miles on a full charge.
Do you own a Tesla? My co workers tells me take the Tesla stated range and take 25% off and you are there. And this is the SF Bay Area with a mild climate.
@@jml9550 Yes, that is about right. I'd say 15-20% off unless you never use the climate control and never floor the accelerator pedal. I'm in San Diego too, so it's mostly above 60 degree weather here. This is the case with all electric cars too, which is why the EV6 GT has a usable range of about 160 miles, or I should say unusable.
@@BN99239 completely agree on all EVs. Using heated and AC will bring down the range dramatically. In SD or Bay Area, I would say AC is a must on temperature above 75F. The GT range is just too bad. I Iove the design, build quality, performance, range is just not up to par on a $60K EV. That’s why I just bought my wife a Lexus NX hybrid. Reasonable priced at almost $47K +tax fee with a respectable 41MPG city. There is not much Luxury brand compact hybrid SUV out there. Lexus is the only game in town, besides the Toyota Venza Limited, which we also looked at, but passed at almost $44K.
@@jml9550 Toyota has a huge lineup of EVs coming up, so hopefully some of these will have 300+ miles.
@@BN99239 yeah won’t be another 5+ years thats for sure.
Also to get full power you need to go in the settings and push the maximum power button which will give you the full 577
Or just push the big ass yellow button on the bottom of the steering wheel?
@@jghall00no, that’s not enough.
Even without doing so, I ran 11.60@118
@@UnobtaniumsQuickReviews true, but with it, it’s 11.5@120 with zero grip. A tiny bit of power (my guesstimate is 20-30 hp) is still missing when the battery is not warm enough.
Hey, what’s the range ? 206 miles. Let me show you how fast it is…….wow,that’s quick…….what’s the range now?
Uh, 140 miles. 😂
I'd say it has a real world EPA range of 220-240mi. I got near identical effciency and battery percent used per range, in my volvo c40, rated at 226mi by epa. I say nearly, as the GT did better by a hair. 1-2%. Both are on Michelin psas4s.
I want one so bad. But they need to up the batter to around 90 to 100KWH like the Mache E the seats are so disrespectful. No power seats in 2023 is horrible
“Low and high beams weren’t high enough” that is exactly what’s wrong with reflectors. I remember when most manufacturers offered standard projectors granted they were incandescent bulbs but still. Now, and idk why they do this, base models, or like this, standard are reflectors and the highest trims get projectors.
Make projectors Standard! Literally whoever decided to put reflectors on 2023+ vehicles should be fired!!!
My wife wants this I want the Tesla model 3 performance.
Give your wife a good shaking (nothing violent). Hopefully, she'll come to her senses and you can buy the Model 3.
I drove this car for five days, and I can attest that it does turn heads. The range is terrible however.
no rear air vents. om a warm day, it is very uncomfortable in the backseat
Seen EV6 GT show room floor with 20k markup was over 80k!?
Fast forward 3 months and local Kia dealer here in Okc is knocking $11K off the MSRP on a AWD GT-Line.
I watched this and other reviews and Purchased a 2022 Wind awd....I just traded it for a Yacht Blue 2023 gt.
That KIA badge on the nose would be easy to remove. It would clean up the front end look.
I have read on forums guys are getting as much as 260 miles on a charge- so driving habits, temp and such will play into actual mileage. I’m not really concerned on the power seats- have that in my current cars and probably tweak the seats once a month?
Awaiting my arrival in Canada. No comment from Kia as to the little fellas arrival.
Yeah if you drive like Granny at 65mph. 😂 Do that in Calif interstates and you’ll get eaten alive.
I haven’t move my seat setting in 2 years.
I am getting 225 on back roads it’s getting warm out so I am pretty sure I will hit 240 easy
@@bigdi77 that’s fantastic!!! Any regrets with your purchase? I have read/watched so many reviews that I’m all over the place with my decision
My wife and I swap cars frequently, so power seats is problematic as she has a very different build and we don't use the same seating position. I suspect if I bought this car to replace our current EV she would claim it and I wouldn't be allowed to drive it.
I will never own a car that is substantially higher priced but comparable to the one I’m giving up with less capabilities. It’s insane. Hybrid for the win!
I initially wanted to purchase this for my wife and I. But then...I saw the Ioniq 5 N. I love that design much more. HIghly anticipating it's market debut.
That should have been the next gen Stinger
I seen this vehicle in person...man, I would buy it...just to drive around town....Sad, the range is not up to par....
How many times do you drive 200 miles non stop?
I'm getting the base model for $36k. I'm fine with 167hp and rwd.
5 year old Model 3 Performance design still wins out.. now only $46k with tax credit.. 33% more range.. it's still the benchmark. When will everyone else catch up??
Design is subjective, but agree with price wise aspect, which changed very recent. In 2022, you should have paid $65k -$70k for M3P.
For some reason in red it looks like a huge updated Veloster😀 So Hyundais can back over my motorcycle without the driver even being in the car? Great.
Beautiful! Kia is always on top of their game
not their base models
What exactly would u put in that “frunk”? Anything small enough you’d probably just let roll around inside.
Level 2 charge cable.
1000 bugs 😁
The manual seat and no cooling was a deal breaker for me.
Seems fairly compromised for the money but not by much, although I think it's a good effort on Hyundai/Kia's part overall - Might be a decent car to lease, but I'd be afraid of the resale value on this Kia compared to performance-trimmed Tesla and Mustang top-trimmed variants which both seem to retain an impressive amount of equity as they age so far. Time will tell.
The lime green accent on seats is a loser. The same color brake caliber isn’t great but the seat piping is not a favorite on a pretty cool ev.manual seats are not a problem. The range should get closer to 250 mile range . Imo
Does the in age capability go up in eco mode?
The seats are terrible unless you are really skinny. otherwise its a great car...
cool car but lacks some expected features. No electric memory driver’s seat 💺 which the Tesla Model 3/Y performance have. The range is much much less than what the Teslas can deliver
Absolutely DO NOT overpay the 61K msrp. You will look pretty stupid paying any ADM on a Kia EV.
people already did.
@@darkivaz-aaa1145 too bad for them 🤦
Very disappointing.Its a great looking car and was excited to hear about the performance.But the interior is seriously cheap looking .Like you said no power seats ,and everything looked cheap and plasticky.Wired carplay?! SMH ,and yes the 360 camera should show your exact vehicle and colour like other systems do .Its the small things that make or break a car .If it had more luxury features I would have considered it
200 mile EV range seems too little. But as usual I'd avoid first gen products and I'm sure they're working on the all new model for 2025.
Err still a toy. In Las Vegas for 9 months of the year you can easily knock 100 miles off estimated range once the a/c on full blast in 115 degree weather and our altitude of 2200 above sea level. Owned one for a few months the realistic range is pathetic.
For the price, along with so little range… it’s not worth it
Just call it a station wagon if you're gonna have that low clearance...
Wait, an electric vehicle doesn't have power seats 🤔
Nissan Aria same thing
EV6 GT-Line has power heated and ventilated seats for $10K less.
Manual seat. What was Kia thinking?
They're not really interested in selling this car. At least not in North America.
These guys always bring up the charging speed as if it makes up for what it lacks.
No, you are not going to charge 10-80 percent in 18 Mims because you're not going to find a 350 charging station that works.
I take trips down to fla from MA. I wish I could find 350s all the way down.
I love Kia, I have a PHEV Sportage to compliment my Model S but the EV6 felt very cheap when I test drove one. The GREEN brakes are gay and its over priced considering the mileage you get.
This is a fail, in my opinion.
Thanks for the great review ,
Range is over 400 kilometers?. 🤔
Rather ‘narrow’ 255 tires for such a high performance vehicle.
0 to 60 in 3 seconds in a whisper quiet smooth car... yay?
"...battery of tests..." Ha!
Wait wait wait, did I read and hear that correctly l, 200 miles of range? Where are you going with that?
green brake caliper and interior stiching make the car look cheap
It's not even long range. 400 miles is long range. My 07 Cobalt gets 350miles
Until that becomes the norm, EVs mean nothing to me.
Let’s stop saying 3.3, we clearly didn’t see this number in the video.
but it ok to say 3.5 for model y
@@bigdi77 he shows it on the stat sheet it’s 3.38 he keeps saying 3.3 which we never saw in the video. Was the model y in this video?
@@bigdi77 by the way when he tested the model y performance he got 3.4 and not 3.5
@@T3chAndThings th-cam.com/users/clipUgkxyx5DD9WW0mVOS8Cuw0nUV_Fm5CP3hXvA
@@T3chAndThings I sent you a video I even cut it right to the 0 to 60 and it shows on screen
they should make a sport touring model with more range and more comfort. ..while still keeping the 0-60 under 4 seconds
Disappointed!! 60k and no power driver seat with memory? Uncomfortable seats! Sub-par audio system? This was one of my EV considerations when ready to purchase. For those reasons, I’m out.
The wired Android Auto and Car Play is really getting old. Hyundai better figure that out soon
"Kia. Too bad it's a Kia!"
I like this car, but the range...
People don't buy sports cars for gas mileage. So why the range matters on a sport performance EV?
@J Raheem Jefcoat because this isn't a gas-powered car with stations at every exit. Imagine a trip from LA to Vegas. My anxiety would be going off the charts.
@Sky But it's a PERFORMANCE EV car! If you want range, buy the base EV6 or GT-Line. Like I said, no one buys a gas performance Porsche for good gas mileage. And I'm sure someone who wants the EV6 GT, is not thinking about max range.
@@wazgoodjj Same!
@J Raheem Jefcoat you're missing the point. People who buy a Dodge Charger Hellcat or Cadillac Escalade might not care about mpg, but they expect a gas station around every corner. 🙄
Who needs that much insane power in a daily commuter? Just give us a decent powered EV with at least around a 500 mile range and shorter charge times without degradation of the batteries using fast charging or a PHEV with at least 50+ electric range.
Ok. How much are you willing to pay? Lucid has one with stated 500 miles range and Lexus has one PHEV at close to 40 miles range, only $60K.
@@jml9550 I forgot to mention affordable. And a PHEV with less than 50 mile range is not really practical.
@@bubbalo3388 what is your definition of affordable and optimal range?
@@bubbalo3388 Yeah thats not possible anytime soon, you have to pay a big premium for that crazy amount of range.
@@TotallyJoel yeah it's not affordable for most people.
Good in so many ways but that rear end OMG, what happened? Thats a full stop for me…
Will catch fire soon park that car far from your house🤣
Car is somewhat appealing, but those seats look terrible.
is the bug included?
Anything over 40k for q KIA is wild 😅
Resale value will sink like a cartel fentanyl submarine.
Why?
@@alexanderverwest Kia, recalls aplenty, EVs do not retain value based on unknown history
@@alexanderverwest because the range is trash
Your comment is what sank 😂
@@whosdondada but it’s worth it. You can do so much worse for the same price and have 276hp less
Gettin' way better range than EPA on my GT. Shit, I can do 4.9mi/kwh on my way to work.
You must be driving like a granny at 35mph top speed to get those efficiency numbers.
@@mowcowbell I actually just hit 6.6 heading to work. I have a few hills to go down on the way. But the car does love 35-42mph. I often just use the cruise control and set a speed and let it do the work for me, and it seems to like it that way.
I do have a lot of downhill on my way; it drops to mid 3s on the return trip. Even still, 100% charge told me 257 miles the other day so... I'll take it.
It does have laucnh control
Small ass frunk. Butterfly for scale.
Meh it's fast , but most EVs are now , that interior just reminds me of a Elantra and this has abysmal range. They all sell for 63k in my area to .... Nope
Aren’t higher weight EVs less safe in the road because how heavy they are?
What?
@@krane15 More weight = more energy transferred in a crash. With EVs generally being heavier than gas cars of the same size, this means more dangeorus
KIA electric vehicles. That is scary to think of and be in!