That has happened ever since first cars came out. Same happens with tech like mobile phones. Features that once were premium are available for wider audience, etc.
If you press and hold the climate/radio switch option, it will allow you to select a default and if you switch it will also go back to default after a few seconds. That will eliminate the need to switch back and forth if you usually only use it for climate and the steering wheel for volume/skipping.
remember when doug used to read the friggin owners manual and skim for funny pics or phrases?? now he misses key functionality like this in his videos...
@@wolf0491 I totally agree with you on these things being complex, and it’s not fair to expect reviewers to dig into every tiny thing. Except he *did* call it out as an issue, he said that if you leave the controls on climate mode and forget, you’ll try to change the volume but you’ll end up changing the temp. And he said “I bet this happens all the time in this car” which is a pretty irresponsible comment without double checking
Part of the reason it’s there is because it’s needed. In my current car I can shoulder check with ease. In my wife’s Ioniq 5, if you try to should check the B pilar is in the way, so the blind spot camera is essential.
This isn't a new feature in the auto industry - my wife had this on her 2014 Honda Accord which was awesome; I loved driving the car for that specific feature. From what I was told, it was a workaround to having lane changing sensors installed because those were more expensive at the time, so adding a blind spot camera was cheaper and an easy alternative. It's a shame Honda and other automakers never pursued this feature in all of their vehicles moving forward - the sensors became the standard as they got cheaper, I guess. Glad to see Kia brought it back! Tesla has it too I think.
Ive noticed this in ALOT of EV car videos. I think that it’s at least a little bit more noticeable because there is no engine noise but there may also be extra road debris noise due to the flat bottom skateboard platform.
@@austinwells678 I have one and driving in Normal mode with occasional bursts in GT I am getting fantastic range - 270+ miles on a full charge and that includes some freeway driving. The EPA rating is ridiculously easy to beat if you don’t drive like a hooligan all the time.
I drove a Genesis GV80 and the auto steering that all these cars share is absolutely insane. It works wayyyy too well, even in my buddies Kia K5 it works the exact same. Extremely impressive
recently drove this car for a lil 2 hour test drive - the center control column is honestly the best design for an element of this category that I have ever seen. All the essential control to operate the car are literally in reach of the length of your hand.
I've driven many, many cars.. the EV6 I've been in has one of the most incredible rides of anything I've been in. Unbelievably smooth while still reining in the roll. Especially compared to the Model 3 which rides like garbage. It wasn't a GT And yeah the height is closer to my wagon than most small/mid sized crossovers
Nice review :). Got mine 3 months ago and it's been great car. One of the first EV that is actually fun to drive, not just a A to B car. Doug could have mentioned this 4 things: Battery optimizer - If you have over 68% SOC you can put the car in battery optimizer for full power. Drift Mode - Uses almost only the rear motor so you can actually drift. My Drive Mode - You can config how you want it. So you can have full power, soft suspension, ESC on and use cruise control. V2L - Vehicle 2 Load. You have 16A power plug in the middle at the rear seats and a adapter you can plug in the car where you charge it to power what you want.
Did you do any roadside/campsite cooking on that V2L yet? Seems so awesome to enjoy real food while on the go. Bring some real home cooked food from the fridge and just warm it up or refry it as an alternative to a truck stop caloric supplement.
@@caleblea8630 It gives you different versions of the EV spacecraft sound for both interior and exterior. ie. You can have one sound for outside and another sound for acceleration inside.
@@Cloxxki I have in the Ioniq5. Went camping last feburary used a air fryer, electric grill, small space heater, electric kettle, and lights. The heater was on all night and I had about 35% left starting from about 75% when parked. This is with the rear hatch open and a tent covering it. So I drained about 40% in one night. For what its worth, I also inflated a mattress and charged my phone, and had music on, etc. You could probably get away with two nights without the heater but anything longer than that is a no.
The look on Doug's face when he hits the pedal and gets a quick acceleration - it never gets old 😁 The Korean automakers are really knocking it out from the park with the EV6 GT and - soon - with the IONIQ 5 N, very excited to see the latter one come out soon! FYI, it is very funny to see that some of the features of the '23 EV6 GT are EXACTLY the same in my 2018 Hyundai Ioniq Electric (the classic one, first gen), e.g. LKAS.
I WANT THIS IN TELLURIDE FORM. I got an X-Pro and the electric version will be my next car in 5-7 years. I love this thing. Kia is really getting crazy good.
I convinced my mid 50s parents to get the GT Line (a step below, not as fast), they love it. Their first EV. It's taken them a while to get a hang of all the features but it's cool
There is a large number of people who would never even consider paying 50K for a vehicle, let alone 63K for one. It'll be the same people driving 8000 pound SUVs, so a lateral movement at best.
Its actually 10-80% in 18 mins! Tested and verified by my own charging at 350 kW Electrify America chargers. You get about 240 kW charge rate. Im always gone before anyone else. Love my Wind AWD! I even owned the 168 HP Light RWD for 9 months and then upgraded because I loved the car/platform so much. It is possible I get a GT or Ioniq N next year but the range needs to be better for me to consider it.
Yes. 20 vs 30 min does make a big difference in waiting than you think. Most stops and shopping takes 20min, so it’s perfect. I wish Tesla steps up to Egmp’s charging speeds.
@@jaydenp.6243. EXACTLY. I have a short on my channel of me proclaiming my love for it after I drove it and it was definitely $63,000.00. Lol. I don't give a damn about the manual seats either since I'll be the only one driving it!
@@wantapgt. Lol. Hell naw. You have to pay to play. Charging stations are everywhere now and the thing is capable of DC fast charging. I'm all about making the impractical stuff work for my lifestyle.
I'd like to point out this thing feels at home in a track. It's probably the only mass market EV right now that can do a proper track day without ruining the battery or having to restrict output. I did about 50 miles worth of track time on mine (in a very short technical track so it was an entire day's worth) in it so far, and it feels amazing, and was lapping everybody else like they were standing still. I was shocked I could touch the brakes with my finger and not get burned after every session, they're definitely oversized. I probably could've done about 70 or so track miles if I really wanted but the track is very far from chargers. This thing reminds me a LOT of my MK7 GTI, just feels a bit heavier (again an accomplishment since it's nearly 2x as heavy). My only real complaints in 6 months months of ownership is there were some minor rattles almost immediately, which ended up being the cabin pressure vents. And there's many idiosyncrasies regarding the software. My Chevy Bolt was MUCH better in that regard, shockingly. Especially with stuff like pre-conditioning and convenience features. The bolt could do 45 minutes, EV6 only does 10 for preconditioning. And extremely frustrating too is that the EV6 will NOT allow you to lock the doors with it running, unlike the bolt, which was awesome because you could park at a grocery store on a hot summer day, leave it running, do your thing, and come back to a very cold car and you could keep it that way for 2 hours. It would also lock automatically once it detected you walked away and was smart enough to not do it if the keys were inside. The EV6 will not do either of these things which is absurd given it definitely has the necessary hardware to do so. Lastly, no freaking wireless phone connectivity, in 2023! it's ridiculous that at this price point that is not a standard feature, so I have to settle with a dongle which is pretty flaky.
These are valid yet minor complaints. I have a Carlinkit 5.0 wireless adapter, and it's completely seamless in providing wireless carplay and Android Auto as if it was natively implemented in the car. Again, if you're an enthusiast, this thing is far more of a hoot and has better driving dynamics than the Mach-E GT or the Model Y -- and that was one of the things most important to me.
Regarding the missing wireless Apple CarPlay… the car is capable of doing it, but it’s been disabled because of an agreement between TomTom (who delivers the navigation-software for the EV6) and KIA. I guess TomTom hopes, that fewer people will use Apple CarPlay (and their navigation), when you have to go through the hassle wiring the phone to the car… 😊
Question about the range, if you kept the GT in eco mode where it reduces the available HP, does the range approach that of the regular EV6? I'm assuming the motors are bigger which would use more watts in any case, but still wouldn't the range be closer to non GT?
@@alsheremeta Not that's not how that works in any EV. MAYBE you'll get an extra 20 miles if you turn off the AC and annoy everyone on the road driving extremely slow. You do not buy this car for the range, you buy it for the performance. The range is more than enough for my purposes since I can go to the furthest edges of my metro area at least 4x before I need a charge. I rarely do road trips, but this is the perfect EV for it as it charges so fast, it takes about the same time as your average gas/pee/snack break in a normal car.
I just bought the ev6 GT and I LOVE it. I got it a ridiculously low price because EVs are so much lower right now. Got it for 60 percent less then when this video came out with low miles. The range is the only downfall but for my driving and working remote, it’s perfect for me and I have a diesel suv for other adventures! This car is a sleeper and now ridiculously affordable
I really like KIA's new logo and it is really clear to me. No misundarstanding of the I and the A makes sense to me too. Good choice keeping it like that.
My mom rented a Hyundai Sonata back in 2021 and after driving it all week she told me that she thought it needed an alignment. It was basically brand new so that didn't make sense. After some investigation I found out that she was driving around all week with "lane keep assist" activated and the car was steering itself the whole time, even when she was steering too. City streets, county roads, and on the highway, she thought it needed an alignment because the steering was making minor adjustments on its own while she was driving.
The one time I had a Kia as a rental (about 12-14 months ago), I had to turn that feature off because it was insanely annoying. Felt like the car was suddenly jerking in weird directions when I had perfect steering angle to negotiate a turn, off ramp, etc. Intrusive to a fault.
This just makes me more excited about the Hyundai Ioniq N, which is something I never thought I'd be saying about an electric car. Granted, Hyundai, Kia, and Genesis have somehow found a way to make electric cars cool to enthusiasts, especially Hyundai's N Vision 74 concept that took the world by storm. Yes, you can make the argument that Hyundai's track record isn't the greatest currently, but I'm still grateful that they're making some cool stuff despite the flaws they may have.
Same, it's the Ioniq N I'd want because of its styling. Not that I could afford it lol. Also kinda want to wait until solid state batteries, makes me wonder if they'll have retrofit options in the future to change old batteries out for solid state.
I just got this after my 2020 m340i was totaled (I was rear ended). Having owned only bmw’s for the passed 10 years, it was hard to come to terms with the fact that I like this car more than the m340i. The ev6 gt is SO fun to drive. It also has the tech and interior build quality and materials to rival the bmw. The power in this car is insane and the best part is I got $16k off of msrp. The m340 and the ev6 gt are both AMAZING cars and you honestly can’t go wrong with either of them. But I’m very happy with my choice
@@patricksoon85 Kia gives you $7500 off if you lease the car. But then they try to make back up their money by giving you a horrible money factor (interest rate) on the lease. The workaround is to just set up your own financing and buy the car off the lease right away (you need to wait 45 days before you can buy the car off the lease). I live in California which gives you an additional $2,000 off when you buy or lease a new Ev. And then I negotiated in the additional $6,500 off. At this point in time I guess the ev6 gt is a hard sell and I showed them I was motivated and wasn’t playing games.
@@Yukikazehalo they do if you lease the car. Set up your own financing and buy the car off the lease and you’ve effectively received $7,500 off the car (with a better interest rate than kia financial would probably offer)
We rented a Kia Niro hybrid crossover (in Europe and it really was a joy to drive! It's a very easy and cool car, this coming from someone who has never driven anything newer that 1991.... It really was a cool car
@@jcherestal What are you talking about man? Its not "almost dead in another 16 mins", the GT is made for power and speed, and that is what it delivers on. If you want more reasonable range, get the standard 320 HP AWD model. You will get around 300 miles of range and still do 0-60 in 4.5 seconds. Also, its a lot cheaper too, by about $10k. The GT is made for those that want power and nothing else. Thats what its a "GT" model with racing seats.... I bought my AWD EV6 for $39k and get 300 miles roughly per charge.
@@jcherestal unfortunately, the car tops out at 161 miles per hour. Maybe going downhill you could reach 750ish mph (or 4.5 seconds per mile) for that to be true? I normally only drive about 20 miles per day. I hear you also plug these cars in every night when you get home vs going to a gas station?
Manual adjusting seats - for the win. It might be a little shocking, but you can quickly reach down, pull a lever, and use your legs to adjust the seats. You can also use those things called arms that protrude out of your body on each side. Automatic seats are heavy, very heavy and slow. Since the car is already very heavy, you have to cut weight where you can.
The biggest issue with this car is that dealerships are typically charging $15k over MSRP for it. It is fine for $62k but not at $77k. A Tesla Model 3 Performance is $53k right now with no markups and it is $46k if you qualify for the tax credits.
And this is why Tesla is killing it right now. I’m in for a new car and I’m seriously thinking to get a Tesla Y given that I have another ICE vehicle as a backup. I’m not paying any dealer any markup
Doug is the type of guy to store paper maps in the back of the seats in his 2024 fully electric sports car with fully tricked out modern navigation system that has every type of maps app available.
This car makes me sure the Ioniq 5 N would be the perfect ev for me (if I could afford one), at least until Volvo brings out an ev wagon. Good looks, super fast charging, spacious, right amount of tech, fast.
Kia/Hyundai dealers don't have a great reputation and that was my experience shopping for an EV-6 last year. Dealer marked up the car $5K and added $4K worth of useless mandatory options (like etched glass). Ended up with a BMW i4 at MSRP and have been very happy since.
Thats an american problem. In most countries, new cars at the dealership are cheaper than the msrp. In germany where I live, japanese and korean cars arent very popular and doesnt hold their value very well. You can get a brand new EV6 GT for 55K€ wich is 15K€ less than the msrp here.
It's true. All of these brands keep talking about releasing "affordable" EV's and there's absolutely nothing affordable about them once the stealerships get their hands on everything. I'm all for businesses making money, but I'm not for businesses gouging people because they're a middleman who forces you to go through them. That's why I like the Tesla sales model where you buy directly from them and the price you see is the price you'll pay. Zero sleazy salespeople trying to sneak in a few charges here and a few markups there. I'm glad you were able to get that i4 at MSRP, I've always thought those were really neat vehicles!
ioniq 6 in henderson nevada/ las vegas.....10k for vin etching. EV6 at kia, 7k in add ons, like wheel locks, window tint, and some PPF and gps tracker (that the phone app already does). the dealers made me run to tesla for a much better car anyways
I do like the dual climate/audio buttons -- I generally set my cabin temperature once and then forget it, while I can fiddle with the music/radio constantly. This is a great solution to the extreme minimalism that some EV manufacturers are pursuing with their all-in-one-screen approach.
I think the DougScore for the Model Y Performance needs adjusting. The Model Y Performance now starts at $54,490, which IMO makes it a solid 8 value score. The Mach-E GT and EV6 GT both come in at least $5,000-$8,000 more expensive currently (without any options).
I have a plaid S and really love the car for the insane speed but it's far from refined. The YP is more noisy and just blahh. I didn't care about the extra $7500, race a neighbor's YP and our GT walked from it on every pull. Way quieter and much better suspension. Sorry Elon. Range is lower for the GT but I plug in nightly so it's a non issue. I'm sure the YP range is not so accurate if you're on it all the time. My plaid has never gotten 389 range but then I can't keep my foot out of it.
It took me SOOO Long to understand what K backwards N was ... I really thought it was a new car brand but knew it looked like a Kia... Glad I was not the only one who knows cars !!
I really wish that he would at least give just a quick 5-10 seconds in each review on what CarPlay looks like when in operation to get a better idea of what happens to the screen and how it looks when supported. I know car play is fairly standard across vehicles , but it’s definitely a little different in my 2018 GM versus my mother's 2023 GM.
I don't mean to downplay what you are saying, but many channels are born from simple wishes like yours. If it's not being done, you should do it! Maybe you can meet Doug one day and thank him for your successful channel showing the features of the infotainment system a little deeper. If you want it, I bet many other do too!
What others said - he doesn't dive deep into technical/electronics specifics and that's good - there are others channels for that. Also, Android Auto as well as Carplay.
I assume you didnt see it IRL. When parked - you can compare it with Model Y (meh, 6/10) and when you see it on the road its still meh (Model Y on a road looks great). Mustang Mach-E looks much better. EV6 reminds me a frog
@@thomaswilliams1533I can name a few crossovers that I think look nice, like the volvo xc90s, 1st gen rav4, and the 4th gen kia sportage (of course this personal preference)
I’m surprised you didn’t talk about the range. House part is compared to the competitors. That would be my beef, and then the charging infrastructure other than that I love the style of the car and definitely the performance. I wonder if they’re going to make a EV six GT to go against the ionic andsince it has a lot more dynamic tweaks done to it❤
Hey Doug! I am looking to buy a first car soon. I want something that is practical/cheap/reliable or easily repaired. As it will be my ”learning to drive car”. Maybe that is a video idea? List a few cars? What would you buy used? What are the common misstakes with a first car buy?
This is perhaps the first EV I would consider getting. I do love having "sufficient" power available under my right foot at any time, especially mid-range acceleration for passing on the highway. I like the hatch and folding rear seats for greater utility. However, my remaining hurdle, besides the price, is the lack of an exhaust note or satisfying engine noise at high RPM. I would also dearly miss rowing the gears, but I could live with that. I guess they will have to pry that steering wheel of my ICE car from my cold dead hands. LOL.
@@saultknutz1166 of course, but for me, part of the enjoyment of driving "an enthusiast car" is the engine note. I guess I will have to take a test drive to see the push in back and blur of the landscape themselves can impress me enough.
I own the Wind AWD trim of the EV6 and have to say my biggest complaint is the lack of the auto-unlock feature when approaching the car. The mirrors will still fold out so it knows you're there, but doesn't unlock. Baffling!
There's a setting for that! I had to turn it off in mine since it would keep locking and unlocking when I walk past it in my garage. Mine is a 2023 GT, but I'd be surprised if that was not a setting on other trims too.
I loved the review. I own a Stinger and I get more compliments on this car than anything I’ve driven. If I buy another car it will be this car. Stealth value is amazing for an EV!
I appreciate a lot of what is said in this review especially towards the end. Hes right. As sad as it is, the USA wants crossovers and its hard to deny that they ARE better cars for people that can only afford or only have the space for one car. Im a former Stinger owner. Same model, trim and color as the one you had, Doug. But now I drive the EV6 GT-line and it _is_ despite what the haters are going to keep saying, everything to me that my Stinger was, just more practical and cheaper to own being that the Stinger "requires" 93 Premium gas. It's still got the "thats a Kia?!" factor, the value packed in for the money, and the GT-line has the same, if not a little bit quicker, 0-60 time as the Stinger GT did. You dont even have to go all the way up to the $63K EV6 GT. My GTL was $57K. $4K more than a Stinger and that difference will be made up in just another year of charging rather than going to the gas station every 3 days and paying $60 to fill it up. The EV6 is better. . . Crazy to say it. I love both, but if I had to keep just one, give me the EV6 lol. Cooler looking Cheaper running costs Slightly better technology Practicality+ Electric isnt a turn off for me. I dont need noise. Not like the Stinger made a lot anyway. Wasnt a V8
Have one, ordered it in Dec. 2021, got it in May this year (2023), so I waited around 1,5 years, and it was worth waiting! It's great, as a former BMW driver I must say: it streers as good as a BMW.
One cool fact, It was designed with Albert Biermann as their lead, BMW's former M division R&D chief who now works for KIA, Hyundai/Genesis group. He brought with him a lot of his former engineering team. He's highlighted on EV6's offcial video talking about the design.
Great review Doug. There was no mention of the 161MPH top speed which allows one to break away from potential madness behind you. We have one and love it. It's quick, agile for a 4800 lbs. car and way quieter than the Y. It's not a fast as my plaid S but that's another animal all together.
They have been for years. Their old reputation is still in a lot of people's minds unfortunately, and people automatically disregard them. Their reliability these days is supposed to be really high too.
They are doing even more for the Ioniq N! Better cooling, more body stuff, even more power (I think). Weird simulated engine stuff too (which you can turn off or on).
yes, the EV6 GT is a good car but the AVATR 11 also has 570bhp, Lidar sensors, can drive itself not only on the highway but also around cities, 4 electric doors, passenger lcd screen, massage seats, road noise cancellation, 340 miles of range, V6/8/10 "engine" sounds and costs under 60000 USD. The single motor version has a range of over 400miles.
Agreed. It's almost as if the green-subsidies, and the green tax credits for EV purchases, and the green-tax rebates for solar panels, and the like, are for the benefit of people who need handouts from the government the least.
Sure it is, the efficiency is worlds better than any gasoline vehicle capable of the same. No one said it was going to save the world but factually it far more efficient than any fossil fuel car.
Thanks Doug for a great review of an apparently great car. I’ve been driving hybrids since 2008, and anticipate moving to full EV next vehicle. Your reviews are great help deciding what it might be.
20:53 I'm so glad I'm not the only person who looks at "KИ" and sees "KN". I must have spent most of a year thinking it was just some new manufacturer.
Honestly how often do you change your seating position? It should be one or two times when you buy the car. I see the probem, when you share the car with a partner, but in this case you need memory seats which still isnt that common.
Its because they are racing bucket seats, you trade power and speed for less creature comforts. In the standard AWD trim you get full power adjustable heated and cooled seats as you would expect.
The Honda Civic has had the blind spot cameras for years. I knew someone with a Honda Civic (probably 2016/2017/2018?) that had it. It was amazing, but its not new. A few things I think that should be STANDARD in all vehicles: 1. blind spot cameras for switching lanes 2. rear view mirror camera display 3. auto up AND down windows for ALL windows IF the car comes with power windows 4. WIRELESS CarPlay/AndroidAuto IF it has ANY display 5. adaptive cruise control IF it comes with any form of cruise control Won't become STANDARD for another 15-20 years, but I can dream, right?
How does this get the same value score as the Model Y Performance?? EV6 - $63k (doesn't qualify for tax credit) - 206 miles - 3.2s 0-60mph MYP - $47k (after $7,500 tax credit) - 303 miles - 3.5s 0-60mph
This is the first time I'm seeing this vehicle, and quite frankly, it's pretty damn good looking! I would be interested in buying one if there was a gasoline engine option.
@@TheFinnishTanker, they're also extremely HORRIBLE if you want to travel across the country with one. Whenever I take road trips, I pretty much only stop for fuel which only takes about 5 minutes... 10 minutes if I have to the restroom. This vehicle only goes 200 miles off of a charge. I can't even begin to tell you how irate I would be from having to stop every 150 miles or less for a charge that will surely take more than an hour to do each time. Also, you roll the dice and HOPE that the charging stop you plan to charge at has proper functioning charge stations.
I don't get why he seems to have such a strong preference for automatic seats. Manual seats can be adjusted so much more quickly. Automatic ones might be better for people with certain movement limitations (bending down to grab the adjustment bar), but that's about it.
"racetrack setting kia crossover" are words I never imagined to hear in the same sentence lol. Honestly, props to Kia for stepping up in recent years. Also love the look of the Telluride
They hired the Chief Designer from Audi, who changed the entire Style...last car he has done was Kia Stinger...and other Europa Designers followed after Peter Schreyer. And they hired the Development Lead from BMW M Departement...
I drove behind one of these yesterday and it's absolutely terrifying because the brake lights don't come on when the regenerative brakes come on. The car slowed down very quickly in front of me and there was no indication from the brake lights whatsoever.
Technology Connections had a video about this recently. He owns a Hyundai Ioniq 5 and came to a near-stop without the brake lights turning on. These cars need a deceleration sensor as well as the brake switch.
The 2023 EV6 GT has different logic and does put on its brake lights when regen is on. This. is different than I've seen in the videos demonstrating this problem. Hyundai has stated its eGMP cars will have a software update available sometime soon to address the issue.
Like you said it's hard to spot the GT from afar maybe from the brake calipers since it looks almost the same as the regular model. But with the latest Ionic 5 N, the insane front design and rear defusers makes you spot it easily.
My wife and i bought this car and absolutely love it. It is insanely fast, yet feels safe, smooth and is so much fun to drive. The only thing that bothers me is the doors don't auto lock when you walk away from it. Our 2012 Chevy Volt could even do that. Whats more insane, is that this car will SEND US A TEXT MESSAGE THAT THE DOORS ARE OPEN. Seriously, dont send me a text, just lock the dang doors. 😂
Police: "Doug, we're on our way to your house. Shouldn't have recorded yourself going 15mph over the speed limit." Doug: "THIIISSS... is a police chase in my Porsche Carrera GT!"
Can you explain why you feel this way? Is it the weight? The lack of convenient charging options? I'm sincerely curious. We are a two EV household for going on two years now, and neither of us has any interest in ever owning another ICE car. No more trips to fuel up, $40 maintenance appointments at 10k intervals. Such a better ownership experience if charging isn't an issue, can't imagine why people are disinclined to switching unless home charging is an issue or they tow or spend an extremely high amount of time on the road in areas of the country where the public networks are lacking.
@MLHunt let me ask you these questions as a response. These are my answers to your questions but in the form of questions instead. It's an exercise in rhetorical debate. Where does your electric charge come from for your cars? Would you have bought them if not for Government tax rebates? Where do the minerals for the batteries come from? Can the batteries be recycled? How accessible are these vehicles for the average middle-class or lower-class person/family? Could those same people afford to pay the electric bill associated with the charging? How is the climate being helped by the pillaging of Africa for its resources once again? Are electric cars beneficial to those who mine the rare earth minerals to make those batteries? Do you believe electric cars are better for the environment than gas wehicles? Do you make an above average salary? Are you in the top 10% of wage earners? Top 1%? Can the Government turn your electric car off remotely if they wanted? Can you fix your electric car in your own driveway if need be? And finally, does your electric car make you feel virtuous? Does it make you feel like part of the climate solution in your opinion? Do you own electric cars because you like them or because your political ideology tells you to? I think I've answered your questions to thr best of my ability. IMO, electric cars are nothing more than a means to an ends....total control. I will believe this until the means to store and transport the energy is completely autonomous and singular. Just like I can store gasoline or propane at my home for later use which no one can shut off or control otherwise. Call me a conspiracy theorist if you want....doesn't make me wrong. 🤷♂️
@@JayTSteele Thanks for the long, thoughtful answer to my question. To summarize, your opposition to EVs is not based at all on the practical aspects of their day-to-day ownership and operation; it is, rather, political and philosophical, based on concerns around the environmental impact of their production, economic justice, social control, etc. Is this a fair characterization of your stance?
@MLHunt it's close. I'm concerned with the power which EV's give to those who already have too much power. As well as the mental anguish caused the citizenry by the marketing and advertising associated with the idea that electric vehicles are gonna save the Earth. Save the Earth from what? They wont save the planet from the people whom are doing the most damage. Like whomever blew up the Nordsteam 2 pipeline. Which ceeated the worst environmental disaster in the history of Mankind. IMO, the push for electric vehicles goes hand-in-hand with the push for a Global government, CBDC's and social credit scores. I do not believe electric vehicles will be beneficial to the broader citizenry in comparison to the benefit to those who are invested in the creation and implementation of the use of said vehicles. Follow the money to the source. The power has to come from somewhere and then it has to get from the source to the end product. I, personally, think that is way too tempting NOT to corrupt for those whom are already corrupted. I know Governments lie more than they don't....because Governments are comprised of humans. Typically not the best of humanity either. I will leave it there. I don't aim to denigrate or impugn your motives or morality. That is not my intention. I have 2 small sons and I'm very concerned for the future....I want freedom and self-determination to be revered in 100yrs, 200yrs, 1000yrs. Men AND women have been imbued with life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness by their Creator....NOT by their Governments. God Bless🤲✝️ Continued prosperity to you and the ones you love. And to the ones who follow in our footsteps. ❤️🇺🇲♾️
Just traded out my Porsche Cayman and Mustang Mach E for one and loving it so far! It's the perfect combination of sporty, practical, and electric. It's the perfect one car garage car.
I’m torn. For a corvette, I love the traditional sound. For an exotic, I love the higher pitched sound. And everyone loves more power. I think I would have to choose the traditional setup.
After awhile, you guys have to stop being impressed by the torque on an electric motor vs ICE. 2:04 It's just math SMH. The minivans of this class will outpace sports car ICEs in the future undoubtedly. Once we stop focusing on that, and more of HOW DANGEROUS it is to improve the torque.... *(now you want people racing to pass other people? sounds great.)*
Never thought a day would come when a 5 door family kia would have the same bhp as a lambo gallardo
Never thought the day would come when a Lamborghini Gallardo would make a better tow vehicle than half the "suvs" being produced.
Also never thought a midsize Kia would get to the high 60K price tag
Five?
That has happened ever since first cars came out. Same happens with tech like mobile phones. Features that once were premium are available for wider audience, etc.
The future is now
As a Stinger owner I have to say Kia has really been nailing styling on their upper end cars over the last few years.
This is a blatant copy of the Jaguar Ipace.
Yeah a stinger is a ripoff
@@jeremysomeoneYou say that as if the I-Pace invented the concept of a crossover electric SUV.
@@calum5975 Lay off the paint chips bro. The topic was design.
But I think their is no General Design Line-up. I think every Manufacturer should have a General Design Line-up.
If you press and hold the climate/radio switch option, it will allow you to select a default and if you switch it will also go back to default after a few seconds. That will eliminate the need to switch back and forth if you usually only use it for climate and the steering wheel for volume/skipping.
remember when doug used to read the friggin owners manual and skim for funny pics or phrases?? now he misses key functionality like this in his videos...
@@DJ_MikeyBI almost can’t remember, because it’s been a very long time since he’s done that.
@@wolf0491 I totally agree with you on these things being complex, and it’s not fair to expect reviewers to dig into every tiny thing. Except he *did* call it out as an issue, he said that if you leave the controls on climate mode and forget, you’ll try to change the volume but you’ll end up changing the temp. And he said “I bet this happens all the time in this car” which is a pretty irresponsible comment without double checking
@@DJ_MikeyB🎉
I wonder how much profit the automakers lose by adding another knob to their infotainment system.
That blind spot camera is actually insane, like it’s so simple yet so helpful, and it could literally save so many lives hypothetically. awesome.
Part of the reason it’s there is because it’s needed. In my current car I can shoulder check with ease. In my wife’s Ioniq 5, if you try to should check the B pilar is in the way, so the blind spot camera is essential.
@@av_oidIoniq 5 has some words for this EV6 GT.
This isn't a new feature in the auto industry - my wife had this on her 2014 Honda Accord which was awesome; I loved driving the car for that specific feature. From what I was told, it was a workaround to having lane changing sensors installed because those were more expensive at the time, so adding a blind spot camera was cheaper and an easy alternative. It's a shame Honda and other automakers never pursued this feature in all of their vehicles moving forward - the sensors became the standard as they got cheaper, I guess. Glad to see Kia brought it back! Tesla has it too I think.
It would help if people learned how to set up their side mirrors. You can position them to eliminate blind spots.
i dunno why Honda gave up on that, they had that around a decade ago, of course not as refined, but yeah.
I was in a Kia dealership just yesterday, and can confirm this car looks really, really sharp in person. Was very impressed.
This comment really puts me on edge. It's cut from a different cloth.
@@WalterM-762x55 The green calipers are beautiful. Better than boring no color
Lmao the car is absolutely hidious
Thank the designers at Jaguar. It’s a ripoff of the I-pace.
Yes I was in a Kia dealership today and I must say it’s nice
Did you intentionally find a gravel parking lot to film this in 😂 all those rocks kicking up for the sound test is killing me
Same lol
It's part of the drive mode. Makes it more authentic.
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Ive noticed this in ALOT of EV car videos. I think that it’s at least a little bit more noticeable because there is no engine noise but there may also be extra road debris noise due to the flat bottom skateboard platform.
Right. I'm listening with high quality earbuds. All audio modes sound the same. 🤦🏾🤷🏾♂️
Some corrections from our daily use... It usually gets around 216-230 miles of range. Fast charge from 10% - 80% takes around 18 mins
Any severe hiccups with public charge stations?
Do you get the closer to ~250 mi when in a mode besides sport/gt?
@@austinwells678 I have one and driving in Normal mode with occasional bursts in GT I am getting fantastic range - 270+ miles on a full charge and that includes some freeway driving. The EPA rating is ridiculously easy to beat if you don’t drive like a hooligan all the time.
@@michaelc2254 yup, like any car, the actual efficiency will depend on how you drive it.
@@truckford2416 not sure what that means but no.
I drove a Genesis GV80 and the auto steering that all these cars share is absolutely insane. It works wayyyy too well, even in my buddies Kia K5 it works the exact same. Extremely impressive
I've had my Stinger for 3 years now and still love it
My little forte also has that automatic steering! Took me by surprise the first time I drove it 😅
Does the Hyundai sonata have the same?
Can confirm. I have a highway commute of over an hour. The auto steer/highway assists make it fly by in no time.
@@TheDeathvice187yes
recently drove this car for a lil 2 hour test drive - the center control column is honestly the best design for an element of this category that I have ever seen. All the essential control to operate the car are literally in reach of the length of your hand.
I've driven many, many cars.. the EV6 I've been in has one of the most incredible rides of anything I've been in. Unbelievably smooth while still reining in the roll. Especially compared to the Model 3 which rides like garbage.
It wasn't a GT
And yeah the height is closer to my wagon than most small/mid sized crossovers
EV6 GT kinda reminded me to Delta S4 WRC 1985 due to how mindboggling the acceleration rate is.
Man I was looking forward to Doug mentioning the drift mode on this car. Pretty cool feature that he never mentioned
They partnered with Elec Co Ltd. Releases a warm tasty taco at command every 15 minutes
@@ElectricVehiclesAreGoodF-ti7xd I heard about that, it is an add on feature. Same company that makes Asian food vending machines.
@@ElectricVehiclesAreGoodF-ti7xdNot really a taco lol, it is like an egg roll chimichanga thing. Refrigerates/cooks it.
@@tannerpaisley-ve6dq Built into the car! Could not believe it makes sense since the two companies are chinese or asian or whatever
@@tannerpaisley-ve6dqseems like this is not going well
3:05 the EV6 is capable of doing 10%-80% charging in 18 minutes not 30 minutes like Doug said.
seriously?!🤯🤯
Can confirm. I've seen 17 minutes on mine,
Correct
Doug lies all of the time. He's 6'4"-6'7" so he does the best that he can.
**** with right charger and conditions
Nice review :).
Got mine 3 months ago and it's been great car. One of the first EV that is actually fun to drive, not just a A to B car.
Doug could have mentioned this 4 things:
Battery optimizer - If you have over 68% SOC you can put the car in battery optimizer for full power.
Drift Mode - Uses almost only the rear motor so you can actually drift.
My Drive Mode - You can config how you want it. So you can have full power, soft suspension, ESC on and use cruise control.
V2L - Vehicle 2 Load. You have 16A power plug in the middle at the rear seats and a adapter you can plug in the car where you charge it to power what you want.
What is the custom sound on the drive sound modes he skipped over it for some reason 🙄 even scrolled over it and showed us
Did you do any roadside/campsite cooking on that V2L yet? Seems so awesome to enjoy real food while on the go. Bring some real home cooked food from the fridge and just warm it up or refry it as an alternative to a truck stop caloric supplement.
@@caleblea8630what if the EV6 GT has super drift mode.
@@caleblea8630 It gives you different versions of the EV spacecraft sound for both interior and exterior. ie. You can have one sound for outside and another sound for acceleration inside.
@@Cloxxki I have in the Ioniq5. Went camping last feburary used a air fryer, electric grill, small space heater, electric kettle, and lights. The heater was on all night and I had about 35% left starting from about 75% when parked. This is with the rear hatch open and a tent covering it. So I drained about 40% in one night. For what its worth, I also inflated a mattress and charged my phone, and had music on, etc. You could probably get away with two nights without the heater but anything longer than that is a no.
The look on Doug's face when he hits the pedal and gets a quick acceleration - it never gets old 😁
The Korean automakers are really knocking it out from the park with the EV6 GT and - soon - with the IONIQ 5 N, very excited to see the latter one come out soon!
FYI, it is very funny to see that some of the features of the '23 EV6 GT are EXACTLY the same in my 2018 Hyundai Ioniq Electric (the classic one, first gen), e.g. LKAS.
LKAS has been on every Kia since 2017, its not special man
Well Demuro loves those cars obviously.
I WANT THIS IN TELLURIDE FORM.
I got an X-Pro and the electric version will be my next car in 5-7 years. I love this thing. Kia is really getting crazy good.
I convinced my mid 50s parents to get the GT Line (a step below, not as fast), they love it. Their first EV. It's taken them a while to get a hang of all the features but it's cool
My daughter is trying to do the same, I am tempted ;)
God bless the Boomers.
@@darthtrader511 people in their 50s are genX :)
@@darthtrader511you must be a gen Y 😊
@@spinnymathingy3149u must be beautiful
Hey Doug, when your having us listen to subtle sounds, it might help if your not driving over a gravel factory’s driveway 🤣🤣
Give Doug a break. He's obviously hearing impaired. This is the only possible explanation.
brooo, I needed to find that someone had made this comment already. like is this guy even serious? lmaooo
@@logicn.reasoning9744no I think the mic picks up more sounds than he could hear while driving
I thought that was the dashboard rattling.
Mormon churches seem to not have asphalt every time😁
I’m a little scared since the main market will still be upper class moms and now they’re going to have 600 hp and insane torque 😂
Gonna be soccer moms at takeovers instead of hellcats
Same, foresee lots of these in horrible wrecks
@@xxyvng6831Starbucks parking lots and school drop off lines about the be treacherous 😂
There is a large number of people who would never even consider paying 50K for a vehicle, let alone 63K for one. It'll be the same people driving 8000 pound SUVs, so a lateral movement at best.
@@KartKing4everso people who aren’t used to 600 hp and instant torque of electric which is why it’s scary😂
This is the first EV to come to market that I'd consider buying. Very impressive!
So we have to call a small hatchback a crossover to sell it? I'm so glad Doug said that because I see a really nice hatchback that is not a crossover
Its actually 10-80% in 18 mins! Tested and verified by my own charging at 350 kW Electrify America chargers. You get about 240 kW charge rate. Im always gone before anyone else. Love my Wind AWD! I even owned the 168 HP Light RWD for 9 months and then upgraded because I loved the car/platform so much. It is possible I get a GT or Ioniq N next year but the range needs to be better for me to consider it.
Have one, as a daily driver, and this is 100% correct!
My RWD Wind got 409 miles the other day at 88F overnight temps
Yes. 20 vs 30 min does make a big difference in waiting than you think. Most stops and shopping takes 20min, so it’s perfect. I wish Tesla steps up to Egmp’s charging speeds.
This is my favorite “affordable” EV on the market and I’m really working toward getting one. I test drove a white GT and instantly fell in love.
idk but to me the white looks so nice with the GT spec rims
@@jaydenp.6243. EXACTLY. I have a short on my channel of me proclaiming my love for it after I drove it and it was definitely $63,000.00. Lol. I don't give a damn about the manual seats either since I'll be the only one driving it!
Neither of you care about the 140-160mi real world range of this?
@@wantapgt. Lol. Hell naw. You have to pay to play. Charging stations are everywhere now and the thing is capable of DC fast charging. I'm all about making the impractical stuff work for my lifestyle.
we really don't care, this video is not the "What car might Hungry buy" channel
I'd like to point out this thing feels at home in a track. It's probably the only mass market EV right now that can do a proper track day without ruining the battery or having to restrict output. I did about 50 miles worth of track time on mine (in a very short technical track so it was an entire day's worth) in it so far, and it feels amazing, and was lapping everybody else like they were standing still. I was shocked I could touch the brakes with my finger and not get burned after every session, they're definitely oversized. I probably could've done about 70 or so track miles if I really wanted but the track is very far from chargers. This thing reminds me a LOT of my MK7 GTI, just feels a bit heavier (again an accomplishment since it's nearly 2x as heavy).
My only real complaints in 6 months months of ownership is there were some minor rattles almost immediately, which ended up being the cabin pressure vents. And there's many idiosyncrasies regarding the software. My Chevy Bolt was MUCH better in that regard, shockingly. Especially with stuff like pre-conditioning and convenience features. The bolt could do 45 minutes, EV6 only does 10 for preconditioning. And extremely frustrating too is that the EV6 will NOT allow you to lock the doors with it running, unlike the bolt, which was awesome because you could park at a grocery store on a hot summer day, leave it running, do your thing, and come back to a very cold car and you could keep it that way for 2 hours. It would also lock automatically once it detected you walked away and was smart enough to not do it if the keys were inside. The EV6 will not do either of these things which is absurd given it definitely has the necessary hardware to do so. Lastly, no freaking wireless phone connectivity, in 2023! it's ridiculous that at this price point that is not a standard feature, so I have to settle with a dongle which is pretty flaky.
Yea TheTopher did a great video about taking the EV6 GT to the track and his didn’t overheat or run out of battery either.
These are valid yet minor complaints. I have a Carlinkit 5.0 wireless adapter, and it's completely seamless in providing wireless carplay and Android Auto as if it was natively implemented in the car. Again, if you're an enthusiast, this thing is far more of a hoot and has better driving dynamics than the Mach-E GT or the Model Y -- and that was one of the things most important to me.
Regarding the missing wireless Apple CarPlay… the car is capable of doing it, but it’s been disabled because of an agreement between TomTom (who delivers the navigation-software for the EV6) and KIA.
I guess TomTom hopes, that fewer people will use Apple CarPlay (and their navigation), when you have to go through the hassle wiring the phone to the car…
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Question about the range, if you kept the GT in eco mode where it reduces the available HP, does the range approach that of the regular EV6? I'm assuming the motors are bigger which would use more watts in any case, but still wouldn't the range be closer to non GT?
@@alsheremeta Not that's not how that works in any EV. MAYBE you'll get an extra 20 miles if you turn off the AC and annoy everyone on the road driving extremely slow. You do not buy this car for the range, you buy it for the performance. The range is more than enough for my purposes since I can go to the furthest edges of my metro area at least 4x before I need a charge. I rarely do road trips, but this is the perfect EV for it as it charges so fast, it takes about the same time as your average gas/pee/snack break in a normal car.
I just bought the ev6 GT and I LOVE it. I got it a ridiculously low price because EVs are so much lower right now. Got it for 60 percent less then when this video came out with low miles. The range is the only downfall but for my driving and working remote, it’s perfect for me and I have a diesel suv for other adventures! This car is a sleeper and now ridiculously affordable
How much you paid for GT? I'm about to get a new 2024 GT for 51k.
I really like KIA's new logo and it is really clear to me. No misundarstanding of the I and the A makes sense to me too. Good choice keeping it like that.
My mom rented a Hyundai Sonata back in 2021 and after driving it all week she told me that she thought it needed an alignment. It was basically brand new so that didn't make sense. After some investigation I found out that she was driving around all week with "lane keep assist" activated and the car was steering itself the whole time, even when she was steering too. City streets, county roads, and on the highway, she thought it needed an alignment because the steering was making minor adjustments on its own while she was driving.
That's pretty hilarious tbh, and I like their Lane keep assist system, my parents have a 21 sonata too
Sounds like she sucks at staying in her lane while driving
Sounds like she needed the alignment
So you're saying driver 'assist' really is a lie, just like I've always thought? #nice 🙂
The one time I had a Kia as a rental (about 12-14 months ago), I had to turn that feature off because it was insanely annoying. Felt like the car was suddenly jerking in weird directions when I had perfect steering angle to negotiate a turn, off ramp, etc. Intrusive to a fault.
This just makes me more excited about the Hyundai Ioniq N, which is something I never thought I'd be saying about an electric car. Granted, Hyundai, Kia, and Genesis have somehow found a way to make electric cars cool to enthusiasts, especially Hyundai's N Vision 74 concept that took the world by storm. Yes, you can make the argument that Hyundai's track record isn't the greatest currently, but I'm still grateful that they're making some cool stuff despite the flaws they may have.
Same that it is going to be a hot hatch EV rocketship
Reparation. Nobody talks about it.
What a car, it looks like you could put it in Cyberpunk 2077 and it would feel right at home with its styling.
Same, it's the Ioniq N I'd want because of its styling. Not that I could afford it lol. Also kinda want to wait until solid state batteries, makes me wonder if they'll have retrofit options in the future to change old batteries out for solid state.
@@AkarZaephyror even FM 2023.
“Most drivers don’t use the front cargo compartment.”
Well obviously they won’t if it sucks. I use mine all the time.
Me too. It is great for takeout; I don't like food smells in my car and it holds two large pizzas securely plus room underneath for a bag.
agreed, I use it daily, and it’s a deal breaker if not sizeable….waste of space otherwise
I just got this after my 2020 m340i was totaled (I was rear ended). Having owned only bmw’s for the passed 10 years, it was hard to come to terms with the fact that I like this car more than the m340i. The ev6 gt is SO fun to drive. It also has the tech and interior build quality and materials to rival the bmw. The power in this car is insane and the best part is I got $16k off of msrp. The m340 and the ev6 gt are both AMAZING cars and you honestly can’t go wrong with either of them. But I’m very happy with my choice
How did you manage to get 16k off sticker?
@patricksoon85 id like to know too, EV6s dont qualify for the big EV rebates because they arnt made in the US.
@@patricksoon85 Kia gives you $7500 off if you lease the car. But then they try to make back up their money by giving you a horrible money factor (interest rate) on the lease. The workaround is to just set up your own financing and buy the car off the lease right away (you need to wait 45 days before you can buy the car off the lease). I live in California which gives you an additional $2,000 off when you buy or lease a new Ev. And then I negotiated in the additional $6,500 off. At this point in time I guess the ev6 gt is a hard sell and I showed them I was motivated and wasn’t playing games.
@@Yukikazehalo they do if you lease the car. Set up your own financing and buy the car off the lease and you’ve effectively received $7,500 off the car (with a better interest rate than kia financial would probably offer)
@@YukikazehaloEV6 GT had 500bhp despite had 190kgs heavier than Marcos Mantis.
We rented a Kia Niro hybrid crossover (in Europe and it really was a joy to drive! It's a very easy and cool car, this coming from someone who has never driven anything newer that 1991.... It really was a cool car
The EV6 charges from 10-80% in only 18 minutes, not half an hour! (Provided you have a capable charging station)
Thanks, was wondering too. I hardly manage 1 smoke before it’s done 😂
And then it's almost dead in another 16 minutes. 60k for 206 miles range is crazy
@@jcherestal What are you talking about man? Its not "almost dead in another 16 mins", the GT is made for power and speed, and that is what it delivers on. If you want more reasonable range, get the standard 320 HP AWD model. You will get around 300 miles of range and still do 0-60 in 4.5 seconds. Also, its a lot cheaper too, by about $10k. The GT is made for those that want power and nothing else. Thats what its a "GT" model with racing seats.... I bought my AWD EV6 for $39k and get 300 miles roughly per charge.
@@jcherestal unfortunately, the car tops out at 161 miles per hour. Maybe going downhill you could reach 750ish mph (or 4.5 seconds per mile) for that to be true? I normally only drive about 20 miles per day. I hear you also plug these cars in every night when you get home vs going to a gas station?
I came into the comments to say exactly this! Get it right, Doug :)
Manual adjusting seats - for the win. It might be a little shocking, but you can quickly reach down, pull a lever, and use your legs to adjust the seats. You can also use those things called arms that protrude out of your body on each side. Automatic seats are heavy, very heavy and slow. Since the car is already very heavy, you have to cut weight where you can.
Yep. My '13 C63 AMG has a manual passenger seat which makes adjusting the power driver side very slllloooooowww and heavy in comparison.
Power seats with memory though are a game changer when you have multiple drivers of different sizes.
@@JebHogeor a cruising and sport mode preset for us single folks
I've always thought this, less weight, and less electronic stuff to go wrong.
The biggest issue with this car is that dealerships are typically charging $15k over MSRP for it. It is fine for $62k but not at $77k. A Tesla Model 3 Performance is $53k right now with no markups and it is $46k if you qualify for the tax credits.
And this is why Tesla is killing it right now. I’m in for a new car and I’m seriously thinking to get a Tesla Y given that I have another ICE vehicle as a backup. I’m not paying any dealer any markup
I checked one out in Novato, CA a month ago, they had two they were selling at MSRP. May be worth checking out if interested!
@@maati5914 typical Kia dealer bait and switch tricks once you show up
@@ItsAlive111 Not really... I was there at the dealership.
And Doug agrees with dealership markups 🤦♂
Doug is the type of guy to store paper maps in the back of the seats in his 2024 fully electric sports car with fully tricked out modern navigation system that has every type of maps app available.
I saw one of these coming towards me on the opposite side of the road today and it absolutely caught my attention. Good looking vehicle.
This car makes me sure the Ioniq 5 N would be the perfect ev for me (if I could afford one), at least until Volvo brings out an ev wagon. Good looks, super fast charging, spacious, right amount of tech, fast.
I just hope the 5N has more range. 206 max on the 6gt hurts.
@@tronbonnwith 18 min charging from 10 to 80% it's not a deal breaker imo. Especially in europe, where the distances are much shorter
I need that Volvo ev wagon whenever the day that is made
@@tronbonn I'm hoping the majority of the reason is wheels and tires and you can get a standard set for road trips
Kia/Hyundai dealers don't have a great reputation and that was my experience shopping for an EV-6 last year. Dealer marked up the car $5K and added $4K worth of useless mandatory options (like etched glass). Ended up with a BMW i4 at MSRP and have been very happy since.
i had zero problems when i bought my tucson.
Thats an american problem. In most countries, new cars at the dealership are cheaper than the msrp. In germany where I live, japanese and korean cars arent very popular and doesnt hold their value very well.
You can get a brand new EV6 GT for 55K€ wich is 15K€ less than the msrp here.
It's true. All of these brands keep talking about releasing "affordable" EV's and there's absolutely nothing affordable about them once the stealerships get their hands on everything. I'm all for businesses making money, but I'm not for businesses gouging people because they're a middleman who forces you to go through them. That's why I like the Tesla sales model where you buy directly from them and the price you see is the price you'll pay. Zero sleazy salespeople trying to sneak in a few charges here and a few markups there. I'm glad you were able to get that i4 at MSRP, I've always thought those were really neat vehicles!
@@Deetroiter Well, you have your state laws that basically protect dealerships to thank for that.
ioniq 6 in henderson nevada/ las vegas.....10k for vin etching.
EV6 at kia, 7k in add ons, like wheel locks, window tint, and some PPF and gps tracker (that the phone app already does).
the dealers made me run to tesla for a much better car anyways
I do like the dual climate/audio buttons -- I generally set my cabin temperature once and then forget it, while I can fiddle with the music/radio constantly. This is a great solution to the extreme minimalism that some EV manufacturers are pursuing with their all-in-one-screen approach.
I think the DougScore for the Model Y Performance needs adjusting. The Model Y Performance now starts at $54,490, which IMO makes it a solid 8 value score. The Mach-E GT and EV6 GT both come in at least $5,000-$8,000 more expensive currently (without any options).
I have a plaid S and really love the car for the insane speed but it's far from refined. The YP is more noisy and just blahh. I didn't care about the extra $7500, race a neighbor's YP and our GT walked from it on every pull. Way quieter and much better suspension. Sorry Elon. Range is lower for the GT but I plug in nightly so it's a non issue. I'm sure the YP range is not so accurate if you're on it all the time. My plaid has never gotten 389 range but then I can't keep my foot out of it.
It took me SOOO Long to understand what K backwards N was ... I really thought it was a new car brand but knew it looked like a Kia... Glad I was not the only one who knows cars !!
I really wish that he would at least give just a quick 5-10 seconds in each review on what CarPlay looks like when in operation to get a better idea of what happens to the screen and how it looks when supported. I know car play is fairly standard across vehicles , but it’s definitely a little different in my 2018 GM versus my mother's 2023 GM.
I don't mean to downplay what you are saying, but many channels are born from simple wishes like yours. If it's not being done, you should do it! Maybe you can meet Doug one day and thank him for your successful channel showing the features of the infotainment system a little deeper. If you want it, I bet many other do too!
Other reviewers cover stuff like this, I don't really think fits in with what Doug looks for in his reviews.
Doug isn't a tech guy.
What others said - he doesn't dive deep into technical/electronics specifics and that's good - there are others channels for that. Also, Android Auto as well as Carplay.
I own one. CarPlay looks reallly good on this car. It utilizes the full screen and it looks very crisp. No cropping to fit the screen at all
The GT here in New Zealand is $NZ139000… that’s roughly $US86000…absolute madness
and I thought NZ loved EV's, seems like they don't want them to be sold
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*Doug is the type of guy to drive with the rear seats down even though he has nothing to put in the boot*
My 2018 Honda Clarity can turn on auto steer while cruise is off. I use it all the time.
This deserves a better styling score. Looks better than any other crossover. Looks better in video than I've seen the pictures of it too.
I assume you didnt see it IRL. When parked - you can compare it with Model Y (meh, 6/10) and when you see it on the road its still meh (Model Y on a road looks great). Mustang Mach-E looks much better. EV6 reminds me a frog
A turd that's better than other turds is still a turd. No crossover will ever be "good looking".
@@thomaswilliams1533this mf spittin'
@@vitaliyleonov8958 19:15 looks way better than a Y, never seen a Mach-E in the wild.
@@thomaswilliams1533I can name a few crossovers that I think look nice, like the volvo xc90s, 1st gen rav4, and the 4th gen kia sportage (of course this personal preference)
I actually think changing the logo from what it was before was a fantastic decision for them... I always thought their logo is a deal breaker.
i actually really like this car, one of the best EV's design (and apparently performace) wise
Kia has really stepped up their game. I have a 2023 Forte GT and the quality is great, it’s quick and has a ton of features.
I don't like SUVs nor EVs, but a "classical" video from Doug like this is able to make me loving both 😊😊
The instant torque of EVs are so fun.
Great comprehensive review Doug. Nice work as always. 👌🇬🇧nice well thought out dynamic touches like power charging door, rear lights, stylish!
I’m surprised you didn’t talk about the range. House part is compared to the competitors. That would be my beef, and then the charging infrastructure other than that I love the style of the car and definitely the performance. I wonder if they’re going to make a EV six GT to go against the ionic andsince it has a lot more dynamic tweaks done to it❤
The rattles and rocks in the wheel well are louder than the fake sounds lol. That will be unbearable on a daily basis
Did you see the road he was driving on?
Hey Doug!
I am looking to buy a first car soon. I want something that is practical/cheap/reliable or easily repaired. As it will be my ”learning to drive car”.
Maybe that is a video idea? List a few cars? What would you buy used? What are the common misstakes with a first car buy?
This is perhaps the first EV I would consider getting. I do love having "sufficient" power available under my right foot at any time, especially mid-range acceleration for passing on the highway. I like the hatch and folding rear seats for greater utility.
However, my remaining hurdle, besides the price, is the lack of an exhaust note or satisfying engine noise at high RPM. I would also dearly miss rowing the gears, but I could live with that.
I guess they will have to pry that steering wheel of my ICE car from my cold dead hands. LOL.
I hear the "it lacks engine noise" comment all the time, to which I respond "You can have more than one car,lol"...
@@saultknutz1166 of course, but for me, part of the enjoyment of driving "an enthusiast car" is the engine note. I guess I will have to take a test drive to see the push in back and blur of the landscape themselves can impress me enough.
I own the Wind AWD trim of the EV6 and have to say my biggest complaint is the lack of the auto-unlock feature when approaching the car. The mirrors will still fold out so it knows you're there, but doesn't unlock. Baffling!
There's a setting for that! I had to turn it off in mine since it would keep locking and unlocking when I walk past it in my garage. Mine is a 2023 GT, but I'd be surprised if that was not a setting on other trims too.
Yes, this makes zero sense.
Kia nailed it! love this thing.
Doug is the type of guy to go on a test drive with the seats folded down
I loved the review. I own a Stinger and I get more compliments on this car than anything I’ve driven. If I buy another car it will be this car. Stealth value is amazing for an EV!
I appreciate a lot of what is said in this review especially towards the end. Hes right. As sad as it is, the USA wants crossovers and its hard to deny that they ARE better cars for people that can only afford or only have the space for one car. Im a former Stinger owner. Same model, trim and color as the one you had, Doug. But now I drive the EV6 GT-line and it _is_ despite what the haters are going to keep saying, everything to me that my Stinger was, just more practical and cheaper to own being that the Stinger "requires" 93 Premium gas. It's still got the "thats a Kia?!" factor, the value packed in for the money, and the GT-line has the same, if not a little bit quicker, 0-60 time as the Stinger GT did. You dont even have to go all the way up to the $63K EV6 GT. My GTL was $57K. $4K more than a Stinger and that difference will be made up in just another year of charging rather than going to the gas station every 3 days and paying $60 to fill it up.
The EV6 is better. . .
Crazy to say it. I love both, but if I had to keep just one, give me the EV6 lol.
Cooler looking
Cheaper running costs
Slightly better technology
Practicality+
Electric isnt a turn off for me. I dont need noise. Not like the Stinger made a lot anyway. Wasnt a V8
I really like that the power is linked to the drive mode. You don’t need all the speed all the time, and I hope this trend continues in new electrics.
Have one, ordered it in Dec. 2021, got it in May this year (2023), so I waited around 1,5 years, and it was worth waiting! It's great, as a former BMW driver I must say: it streers as good as a BMW.
One cool fact, It was designed with Albert Biermann as their lead, BMW's former M division R&D chief who now works for KIA, Hyundai/Genesis group. He brought with him a lot of his former engineering team. He's highlighted on EV6's offcial video talking about the design.
@@h.m.8589 that's a nice fact! 😊
Am I the only one who thought Doug tested on a gravel lot! The sound of all those rocks hitting the car was cracking me up 😂
Great review Doug. There was no mention of the 161MPH top speed which allows one to break away from potential madness behind you. We have one and love it. It's quick, agile for a 4800 lbs. car and way quieter than the Y. It's not a fast as my plaid S but that's another animal all together.
I test drove one today and loved it. It’ll be my first EV if I take the leap. Anything you personally don’t like about it?
@@four9ines annoying intermittent rattle coming from the rear. Thought it was from the body vents but not so lucky, still need to trace.
I cant lie, Kia is making some seriously nice looking vehicles.
They have been for years. Their old reputation is still in a lot of people's minds unfortunately, and people automatically disregard them. Their reliability these days is supposed to be really high too.
I've always wondered why cars didn't have blind spot cameras
I like the look of the Ionic better. Hoping it gets the same treatment as this.
They are doing even more for the Ioniq N! Better cooling, more body stuff, even more power (I think). Weird simulated engine stuff too (which you can turn off or on).
Ionic 5 N is supposedly coming
July 13th, Ioniq 5N reveal
Kia and Hyundai have really upped their game when it comes to car design. They are really producing some good looking vehicles.
yes, the EV6 GT is a good car but the AVATR 11 also has 570bhp, Lidar sensors, can drive itself not only on the highway but also around cities, 4 electric doors, passenger lcd screen, massage seats, road noise cancellation, 340 miles of range, V6/8/10 "engine" sounds and costs under 60000 USD. The single motor version has a range of over 400miles.
I don’t want a fast EV, I want a reasonably priced EV. Given the state of EV sales I’m not alone.
But how could you have a sense of superiority if your ev is reasonably priced?
Agreed. It's almost as if the green-subsidies, and the green tax credits for EV purchases, and the green-tax rebates for solar panels, and the like, are for the benefit of people who need handouts from the government the least.
buy the base model then?
@@LukeEsther I’m happy for you, that you can consider a $50k vehicle reasonably priced. But you’re wrong.
There is no way something that consumes enough electricity to move 3 tons to 60 MPH from a standstill in 3 sec~ is "environmentally friendly", Doug.
Sure it is, the efficiency is worlds better than any gasoline vehicle capable of the same. No one said it was going to save the world but factually it far more efficient than any fossil fuel car.
@@Clapxiomatic fossil fuels lol
@@Clapxiomatic mmm god yes please go on about how nickel poisoning isn't making children look like Megamind in Africa.
@@Clapxiomatic being efficient doesn't make it environmentally friendly
Thanks Doug for a great review of an apparently great car. I’ve been driving hybrids since 2008, and anticipate moving to full EV next vehicle. Your reviews are great help deciding what it might be.
My pal has a blue standard EV6 320bhp even that’s speed caught me by surprise so can’t imagine what this one is like!
20:53 I'm so glad I'm not the only person who looks at "KИ" and sees "KN". I must have spent most of a year thinking it was just some new manufacturer.
So happy we got to see the car from Doug and only Doug’s perception on a new interesting car like this! Love the Doug only reviews
Keep your toxic crap to yourself.
These things are amazing. Finally a car from the future, even if it is a crossover.
The manually adjusted seats are shocking considering my '15 Forte has electronically adjusted seats.
I'm pretty sure the seats are shared with the Elantra N??
Honestly how often do you change your seating position? It should be one or two times when you buy the car. I see the probem, when you share the car with a partner, but in this case you need memory seats which still isnt that common.
Its because they are racing bucket seats, you trade power and speed for less creature comforts. In the standard AWD trim you get full power adjustable heated and cooled seats as you would expect.
What's the point of having umpteen driving modes with different power levels? You already have an accelerator pedal to control how much power you use.
The Honda Civic has had the blind spot cameras for years. I knew someone with a Honda Civic (probably 2016/2017/2018?) that had it. It was amazing, but its not new. A few things I think that should be STANDARD in all vehicles:
1. blind spot cameras for switching lanes
2. rear view mirror camera display
3. auto up AND down windows for ALL windows IF the car comes with power windows
4. WIRELESS CarPlay/AndroidAuto IF it has ANY display
5. adaptive cruise control IF it comes with any form of cruise control
Won't become STANDARD for another 15-20 years, but I can dream, right?
How does this get the same value score as the Model Y Performance??
EV6 - $63k (doesn't qualify for tax credit) - 206 miles - 3.2s 0-60mph
MYP - $47k (after $7,500 tax credit) - 303 miles - 3.5s 0-60mph
This is the first time I'm seeing this vehicle, and quite frankly, it's pretty damn good looking! I would be interested in buying one if there was a gasoline engine option.
'gasoline option'
Gross.
i would love to see a gasoline version honestly, electric cars are lame, no sound=no fun.
@@TheFinnishTanker, they're also extremely HORRIBLE if you want to travel across the country with one. Whenever I take road trips, I pretty much only stop for fuel which only takes about 5 minutes... 10 minutes if I have to the restroom. This vehicle only goes 200 miles off of a charge. I can't even begin to tell you how irate I would be from having to stop every 150 miles or less for a charge that will surely take more than an hour to do each time. Also, you roll the dice and HOPE that the charging stop you plan to charge at has proper functioning charge stations.
I love it when Doug sees manual adjustable seats and has a tiny rant every time.😅
I don't get why he seems to have such a strong preference for automatic seats. Manual seats can be adjusted so much more quickly. Automatic ones might be better for people with certain movement limitations (bending down to grab the adjustment bar), but that's about it.
"racetrack setting kia crossover" are words I never imagined to hear in the same sentence lol. Honestly, props to Kia for stepping up in recent years. Also love the look of the Telluride
I have no idea how Kia and Hyundai have managed to become one of if not the coolest car companies in the world in the past 3 years but they sure have.
They hired the Chief Designer from Audi, who changed the entire Style...last car he has done was Kia Stinger...and other Europa Designers followed after Peter Schreyer.
And they hired the Development Lead from BMW M Departement...
@@josefv-y8m I see, well it's certainly paid off.
I drove behind one of these yesterday and it's absolutely terrifying because the brake lights don't come on when the regenerative brakes come on. The car slowed down very quickly in front of me and there was no indication from the brake lights whatsoever.
Known problem with KIA/Hyundai.
There's a software update for it, but it's hard as hell to get a service appointment for it.
Technology Connections had a video about this recently. He owns a Hyundai Ioniq 5 and came to a near-stop without the brake lights turning on. These cars need a deceleration sensor as well as the brake switch.
The 2023 EV6 GT has different logic and does put on its brake lights when regen is on. This. is different than I've seen in the videos demonstrating this problem. Hyundai has stated its eGMP cars will have a software update available sometime soon to address the issue.
Like you said it's hard to spot the GT from afar maybe from the brake calipers since it looks almost the same as the regular model. But with the latest Ionic 5 N, the insane front design and rear defusers makes you spot it easily.
If you press the accelerator and brake pedals at the same time, the EV6 takes a screenshot
My wife and i bought this car and absolutely love it. It is insanely fast, yet feels safe, smooth and is so much fun to drive. The only thing that bothers me is the doors don't auto lock when you walk away from it. Our 2012 Chevy Volt could even do that. Whats more insane, is that this car will SEND US A TEXT MESSAGE THAT THE DOORS ARE OPEN. Seriously, dont send me a text, just lock the dang doors. 😂
The only thing from those sounds I can here is the rocks hitting the car 😂😂😂😂
Police: "Doug, we're on our way to your house. Shouldn't have recorded yourself going 15mph over the speed limit."
Doug: "THIIISSS... is a police chase in my Porsche Carrera GT!"
It won the World Performance Car of the Year 2023!
I would buy it...
If it wasn't an electric car. 🤦♂️
Can you explain why you feel this way? Is it the weight? The lack of convenient charging options? I'm sincerely curious. We are a two EV household for going on two years now, and neither of us has any interest in ever owning another ICE car. No more trips to fuel up, $40 maintenance appointments at 10k intervals. Such a better ownership experience if charging isn't an issue, can't imagine why people are disinclined to switching unless home charging is an issue or they tow or spend an extremely high amount of time on the road in areas of the country where the public networks are lacking.
@MLHunt let me ask you these questions as a response. These are my answers to your questions but in the form of questions instead. It's an exercise in rhetorical debate.
Where does your electric charge come from for your cars? Would you have bought them if not for Government tax rebates? Where do the minerals for the batteries come from? Can the batteries be recycled? How accessible are these vehicles for the average middle-class or lower-class person/family? Could those same people afford to pay the electric bill associated with the charging? How is the climate being helped by the pillaging of Africa for its resources once again? Are electric cars beneficial to those who mine the rare earth minerals to make those batteries? Do you believe electric cars are better for the environment than gas wehicles? Do you make an above average salary? Are you in the top 10% of wage earners? Top 1%? Can the Government turn your electric car off remotely if they wanted? Can you fix your electric car in your own driveway if need be?
And finally, does your electric car make you feel virtuous? Does it make you feel like part of the climate solution in your opinion? Do you own electric cars because you like them or because your political ideology tells you to?
I think I've answered your questions to thr best of my ability.
IMO, electric cars are nothing more than a means to an ends....total control. I will believe this until the means to store and transport the energy is completely autonomous and singular. Just like I can store gasoline or propane at my home for later use which no one can shut off or control otherwise. Call me a conspiracy theorist if you want....doesn't make me wrong. 🤷♂️
@@JayTSteele Thanks for the long, thoughtful answer to my question. To summarize, your opposition to EVs is not based at all on the practical aspects of their day-to-day ownership and operation; it is, rather, political and philosophical, based on concerns around the environmental impact of their production, economic justice, social control, etc. Is this a fair characterization of your stance?
@MLHunt it's close. I'm concerned with the power which EV's give to those who already have too much power. As well as the mental anguish caused the citizenry by the marketing and advertising associated with the idea that electric vehicles are gonna save the Earth. Save the Earth from what? They wont save the planet from the people whom are doing the most damage. Like whomever blew up the Nordsteam 2 pipeline. Which ceeated the worst environmental disaster in the history of Mankind.
IMO, the push for electric vehicles goes hand-in-hand with the push for a Global government, CBDC's and social credit scores. I do not believe electric vehicles will be beneficial to the broader citizenry in comparison to the benefit to those who are invested in the creation and implementation of the use of said vehicles. Follow the money to the source.
The power has to come from somewhere and then it has to get from the source to the end product. I, personally, think that is way too tempting NOT to corrupt for those whom are already corrupted.
I know Governments lie more than they don't....because Governments are comprised of humans. Typically not the best of humanity either.
I will leave it there. I don't aim to denigrate or impugn your motives or morality. That is not my intention. I have 2 small sons and I'm very concerned for the future....I want freedom and self-determination to be revered in 100yrs, 200yrs, 1000yrs. Men AND women have been imbued with life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness by their Creator....NOT by their Governments.
God Bless🤲✝️ Continued prosperity to you and the ones you love. And to the ones who follow in our footsteps.
❤️🇺🇲♾️
@@JayTSteele Thanks for yet another courteous and thoughtful reply. Yes, let's leave it at that.
Just traded out my Porsche Cayman and Mustang Mach E for one and loving it so far! It's the perfect combination of sporty, practical, and electric. It's the perfect one car garage car.
When those drive sounds were being demo'd....the road noise sounded like they were driving a hmmwv
It doesn't matter how good it is, it will always be a KIA
@Real_Doug_Demuroyeah a prize for the idiot category
He thinks it's environmentally friendly! 😂
1 like = Electric car haters want to destroy the earth for no reason
The person above me likes men
I’m torn. For a corvette, I love the traditional sound. For an exotic, I love the higher pitched sound. And everyone loves more power. I think I would have to choose the traditional setup.
We just got the 2023 Kia Carnival. I loved the dynamic gauge cluster. It changes to the time of day and the weather.
Unfortunately the Kia EV6 doesn’t have the dynamic gauge cluster screen 😢
After awhile, you guys have to stop being impressed by the torque on an electric motor vs ICE. 2:04 It's just math SMH. The minivans of this class will outpace sports car ICEs in the future undoubtedly. Once we stop focusing on that, and more of HOW DANGEROUS it is to improve the torque.... *(now you want people racing to pass other people? sounds great.)*
Wait am i just now noticing the chapters or is this a new thing, i enjoy how much easier this makes identifying specific quirks and features