488 Pista vs 720S // BOTB Track Shootout | SCD Driven

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  • @scd
    @scd  4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

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      @timoldland 4 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @Ssh52
      @Ssh52 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      BOTB only show the winners, they dont show the many people who payed *real* money to have the chance of winning a car and lost.
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      @user-tc7lm9yg3m 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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    • @nicholastan6828
      @nicholastan6828 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      00 00 AHAHAHAH LOL what the fuck are you doing on the internet lmao

    • @stubones
      @stubones 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Let's have a rematch when the Pista's direct rival, the 765LT is available for testing, or a SCD member buys one...

  • @DaveFuucck
    @DaveFuucck 4 ปีที่แล้ว +340

    Oli's analysis of the cars is fantastic - better than most full-time motoring journalists

    • @larssonk22
      @larssonk22 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Well he is a professional race driver and owns a few cars in this class

    • @scd
      @scd  4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      He certainly knows his stuff - very insightful as you say!

    • @djtimodj
      @djtimodj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Nice to hear someone tell it from a race drivers point of view!!

    • @tedtheturbot
      @tedtheturbot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes very good and nice bit of in-car as well. Although i would say better to have the forward view running throughout rather than cutting to see the driver. To follow the lap fully. Maybe inset the forward view then play with the other camera angles or visa-versa..

    • @djtimodj
      @djtimodj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@tedtheturbot agree, nice to see less cuts in the lap as this is why we kept them low. For the next one we can minimise the front view while showing other angles if this is what you want to see??

  • @TheTmat007
    @TheTmat007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +361

    That's why track comparison tests should be conducted by the same driver

    • @scd
      @scd  4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Hell yeah!

    • @scoobydoo5164
      @scoobydoo5164 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      And the same tires

    • @TheTmat007
      @TheTmat007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@scoobydoo5164
      True that. And I've also added that part under other track comparison videos...just did not do it here.

    • @nico2006t
      @nico2006t 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@scd with same tires

    • @TheTmat007
      @TheTmat007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nico2006t
      Yup. It think the difference here came down to tires. The ones on the Pista provide better grip.

  • @eyezenward4308
    @eyezenward4308 4 ปีที่แล้ว +146

    God bless for a track test and not a fking 1/4 mile

    • @willbennett4909
      @willbennett4909 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @obs1dian exactly😂. I love ferrari but it happens everytime against a 720s

    • @vernonyo271
      @vernonyo271 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      We all know the 720s is the king of the 1/4 mile. But being beaten by 8/10ths of a second round a track puts some perspective on its performance

    • @shaktisehrawat7479
      @shaktisehrawat7479 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@vernonyo271 and by over 8 seconds on nurburgring

    • @yibambe4ever74
      @yibambe4ever74 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vernonyo271 actually a 911 turbo s is faster

    • @stijnvanhees5281
      @stijnvanhees5281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yibambe4ever74 actually a 765lt is faster

  • @jayp.6166
    @jayp.6166 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Both of these vehicles are unreal.
    It's incredible what McLaren has been able to accomplish in barely a decade since re-entering the production/ consumer market with the 12C.

  • @gentnextdoor
    @gentnextdoor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +299

    The Pista wasn’t fitted with the lighter carbon wheels which Ferrari say are worth at least a tenth on track. Both cars are awesome competition is fun but with so much restrictions to performance cars these days we should celebrate manufacturers are still making cars like this. Long live the combustion engine!!

    • @YS9-9
      @YS9-9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I think it should be compared with 600lt not 720s

    • @brock5946
      @brock5946 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They should make more hybrids

    • @andrewlewis2671
      @andrewlewis2671 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@YS9-9 Autocar did a video on the same circuit with the pista and the 600lt and the pista was still faster

    • @YS9-9
      @YS9-9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@andrewlewis2671 so they are biased coz there is no way pista is faster than 600lt on a track

    • @andrewlewis2671
      @andrewlewis2671 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@YS9-9 well it was so how'd you figure that one

  • @ilemg82
    @ilemg82 4 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    The Ferrari sounds so good!!

    • @osamabinladen824
      @osamabinladen824 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Smogger911 458 definitely sounds miles better

  • @MarcSob22
    @MarcSob22 4 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    The Ferrari 488 Pista is perfect!!

    • @desteralberto4205
      @desteralberto4205 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @lange darm He felt fade, but it is not the same as if anyone who is not a world class racing driver would. Also it would't have done a great lap if the brakes were already fading after just 3.

    • @desteralberto4205
      @desteralberto4205 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @lange darm I have never heard complaints about Ferrari brakes fading. At least not in a way that it requires stopping to cool down. I know how fading brakes feel, what I meant is that brake fade is perhaps small or faint. What supports this idea? The fast time he managed and that the racing driver opened the statement about the brakes were unbelievable and that there was a a hint of fade "towards the end".

    • @ste9856
      @ste9856 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @lange darm ferrari way better

    • @emmanuelperrina6105
      @emmanuelperrina6105 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep the 720s is just overpriced.

    • @shinya1215
      @shinya1215 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @lange darm When McLaren's brake start fading you're not only lose the brake and also you lose the rear diff. to help the car turn and it also happens in few laps time when you really pushing hard so I am not sure which is worse.

  • @mauriziodileo6659
    @mauriziodileo6659 4 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    Ferrari 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

    • @iwshfg6
      @iwshfg6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ❤️🇮🇹

    • @luixitaly
      @luixitaly 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sempre ❤️🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹

    • @giovannicioffi2572
      @giovannicioffi2572 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Forza Ferrari🇮🇹🏎🔥❤️

  • @saucysimpson259
    @saucysimpson259 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    720s was at a disadvantage of carrying an air freshner

  • @AAde-or3qz
    @AAde-or3qz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Before watching this I had to give this a thumbs up and say: YES!!! FINALLY A TRACK BATTLE!! Thank you.

    • @djtimodj
      @djtimodj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Prefer this to the normal drag racing.

  • @thefinalmaru
    @thefinalmaru 4 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    Pista is so hot...❤️❤️

    • @aunmohammad241
      @aunmohammad241 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      720 is hotter

    • @jackjack8610
      @jackjack8610 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aun Mohammad actually not...compared to the Pista the 720s looks like a basic super sports car. And I would still pick the 720 tbh

  • @ahnafbinzakir9455
    @ahnafbinzakir9455 4 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    Wait till the LT version of the 720 s comes out. That thing is going to be out of this world

    • @lioneldherine6230
      @lioneldherine6230 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      For sure, even the Senna wil collapse...

    • @minimead368
      @minimead368 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Ahnaf Bin Zakir it’s a shame these two are being compared against each other when in reality they’re in a different class, like you say when the LT comes out then you could do a fair comparison

    • @SuperThe86
      @SuperThe86 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@lioneldherine6230 Porsche 911 GT2 RS is faster on track than 918 Spyder

    • @lioneldherine6230
      @lioneldherine6230 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@SuperThe86 Yeah of course. The 918 is some kind of a transition for Porsche and the hybrid range. Not the most focused car for laptimes despite all the technology inside.

    • @coolsahib
      @coolsahib 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      2021 750 Longtail i cant wait

  • @HesteBremse
    @HesteBremse 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Love the look of these Bronze rims on the 488 - Great Video, thanks ;D

  • @V3NG3ANC33
    @V3NG3ANC33 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    488 pista is a beast!

  • @canudeiro
    @canudeiro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I want to see comparison with its real rival now, the 765LT.

    • @Bailey.Holohan
      @Bailey.Holohan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      CrimsonRider i think its gonna be the quickest super car on a track and in a straight line

    • @mohamedalabdouli1738
      @mohamedalabdouli1738 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Exactly...it should be either 488 gtb vs 720s or the pista vs the 765LT. I'm a huge pista fan but sorry Ferrari can't win in a fair comparison to McLaren

    • @projectr2451
      @projectr2451 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      It’s real rival would’ve been the 675LT. You seem to forget that McLaren released the MP4-12C to compete with the 458 Italia. Since then, both have released two successors to those models.
      McLaren released the 650S in 2014 and Ferrari released the 488 GTB in 2015. Those two compete. Now, the 720S competes against the F8 Tributo. And both have lapped Assen, and the F8 Tributo set a quicker lap time.
      The 765LT would compete against the track version of the F8 Tributo.

    • @projectr2451
      @projectr2451 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Charles Asius
      It’s even over 780hp.

    • @hyena8385
      @hyena8385 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@projectr2451 This makes partial sense. Unfortunately you can only compare what's out. Then its the closest chronological order that matters not which nominal generation for a particular manufacturer. Wasn't Ferrari's fault that the 12C was rather quickly replaced, nor McLaren's that they had a faster product cycle at the time. Given Ferrari and McLaren have kind of alternated chronologically, the 765lt is just as legit comparison with a pista as the 675lt. And then when the F8 track focused version comes out, assuming it's within the next couple of years, that will be just as legit a rival to the 765lt.

  • @jessicamorris4415
    @jessicamorris4415 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great to see these two go head to head!! Thanks for the video!!

    • @scd
      @scd  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Our pleasure Jessica! Thanks for watching

  • @pneuma7828
    @pneuma7828 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Just keep in mind that's the track focus version of the 488. Love them both and can't wait until the track focused version of the 720s is released!!

    • @scd
      @scd  4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Oh yeah definitely - the 720S has track firmly in its DNA thought too

    • @pneuma7828
      @pneuma7828 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@scd Agreed

    • @Andrew-pi6mg
      @Andrew-pi6mg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      By that time the F8 tributo hardcore version will be out !!!!

    • @gamingcambo1260
      @gamingcambo1260 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Boi Senna is already 720s track focus stop thinking that McLaren will release 720lt or 750Lt anymore :'))

    • @jackmarstaeller7663
      @jackmarstaeller7663 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@gamingcambo1260 of course they're going to make one, just closer the the end of the model's lifespan.

  • @AnkitVerma-dj9dn
    @AnkitVerma-dj9dn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    really loved the music at the beginning....and of course great track comparison

  • @jorisvizgirda3101
    @jorisvizgirda3101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Honestly an awesome video, there's nothing more I want to know about these cars. Well done TheSUPERCARDRIVER.. :)

  • @Radiation580
    @Radiation580 4 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    Pista, 😍

  • @dmhops2410
    @dmhops2410 4 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    Pista all the day

    • @sandipsahota5707
      @sandipsahota5707 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      DMHOPS 24 th-cam.com/video/EDLb9oQzuu8/w-d-xo.html

  • @timmietz
    @timmietz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Phenomenal video! Many thanks!!

    • @scd
      @scd  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching Tim!

  • @duncanbleak3819
    @duncanbleak3819 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Magnificent video. Great fun to watch over and over again!

  • @BrendanEvan
    @BrendanEvan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Got my subscription with this epic shootout 👍

  • @kevind1447
    @kevind1447 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Fantastic Video guys, and bravo to the owners for making this video possible ;)

    • @scd
      @scd  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Kev!

  • @4SmokingTailpipes
    @4SmokingTailpipes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Such a good video!! I am in absolute awe of Ollie... Pista for me but fair play to Adey for lending the '20S!

    • @scd
      @scd  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Rob! Oli was unreal

    • @djtimodj
      @djtimodj 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fair play to both owners letting oli lose in their pride and joy!!! Always driven safely even at the limit though!!

  • @dariobaruk1849
    @dariobaruk1849 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really great driver ! nice track with the sea all around . Bravi !!!!

  • @taforth
    @taforth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very detailed analysis of the differences 👍

    • @scd
      @scd  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it!

  • @GohardGT3
    @GohardGT3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Very professional comparison by a pro with great comments and info about the cars > the best type of review I know!

  • @MUISHAGGY572
    @MUISHAGGY572 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    720S fast 1/4 mile.
    488 Pista fast lap time.
    Conclusion: its easy to make a car fast on a straight line, that's why Ferrari is Ferrari.

  • @Khutch18
    @Khutch18 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a lot of fun to watch

  • @wordsshackles441
    @wordsshackles441 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Ferrari is 8/10th of a second faster. Very impressive to nearly beat a 720s by nearly 1 second. I didn't expect the gap to be so wide.

  • @acharoja_bmw330CI
    @acharoja_bmw330CI 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    FERRARI 488 Pista. Love it!

  • @alyousuf
    @alyousuf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Without telling us what tires were on both cars the review makes ZERO sense. The 720s can come with a Corsa or a Trofeo R, and the Pista with a Cup2 and Cup2R which makes a huge a different.
    Also the difference is 850ms between the two cars, which is not half a second.

    • @nabushdinosaure
      @nabushdinosaure 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I completely agree. I was not able to tell if the 720S was on the Trofeo R with the few shots on the tires. Same for the pista...

    • @wlchan0916
      @wlchan0916 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      despite that, both are great cars, cant go wrong with any. would love to own a pista later on. currently own 720s spider. and i freaking love it.

    • @rickw8645
      @rickw8645 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And to think that Ferrari charge what they do for this car and they are selling for what they are as well 🤣

    • @cnscm2614
      @cnscm2614 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      your right.. you they always going to put that ferrari on top.

    • @Esco4Lifeee
      @Esco4Lifeee 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And fuel amount should be the same on both

  • @ltitus8900
    @ltitus8900 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    F1 has spoiled these things for me because you learn just how much a track can favor one design type over another. With that said though, this is also one of the few videos that makes all that irrelevant because Oliver's analysis is spot on and very detailed. He's also blisteringly fast so it's fun to watch him through these things around. You know for a fact that the assessment of both cars is dead accurate.
    Thanks for the vid.

  • @muhamadsaifulhafizimohdtau3036
    @muhamadsaifulhafizimohdtau3036 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wait for this duel for a looooong long time.............

  • @embakubmotoring
    @embakubmotoring 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Wow, both cars are phenomenal, brilliant driving machines.
    But because of my self preference I'd say Pista!🔥

  • @djtimodj
    @djtimodj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Pleasure to get to work with such great machines and team on this one!! Such a close call on lap times too!! 👌👌👌

  • @ccol009
    @ccol009 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn that was a good race! I’m taking the McLaren 720S. I like its design, creativity and innovation. Like with the head lights how they are air intakes as well, the cool air vents on the side of the doors that are in between the doors, the cool doors when their up, the McLaren is more Me. The interior also! I love how the driver screen folds up and down like that depending on what mode your in. I think I’ll take the McLaren 720S.

  • @pancho8334
    @pancho8334 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the Pista, but i think the winner is the 720s. 0.8s aprox for a road version vs the track focused Ferrari is insane! Great driving and review from the driver.

  • @DragTimes
    @DragTimes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    so Michelin Cup sport 2 tires on the Pista and Pirelli Pzero on the 720s? If so, the 720S did great with the much slower tire... great video!!

    • @the-Boss-rs
      @the-Boss-rs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      DragTimes
      Pista beats the 720s in 9 times in different tracks the 720s beat the pista only 1 time
      So 720s doesn’t have a chance in track There is no comparison in the track between pista and 720s

    • @DragTimes
      @DragTimes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@the-Boss-rs you can only really compare same day, same driver testing.... and in this case they are very close, even with better tires on the Pista......

    • @the-Boss-rs
      @the-Boss-rs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      DragTimes
      Pista made for the track not for straight line
      So i dont think so 720s have a chance even if it has the same tires pista still 1 second quckier

    • @DragTimes
      @DragTimes 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @OneAboveAll it's not, I've been on both tires....

    • @ds1599
      @ds1599 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@DragTimes Hi, a big fan here. I personally think you are the best car youtuber around. And a Big Thank you for all the great videos you have already posted online.About this track test, please don't forget that Ollie said clearly that he drove the 720S on this track several times before in the past. He said he knows the 720S very well. Instead he only drove the Pista for 3 laps on this circuit. He dosn't said how much experience he had with the pista in the past.His familarization with the 720S clearly it gives it to it a big advantage, how much it is not easy to say, but I would say at least another half second on this small circuit. It is the same when you drag race your 720S, you are ready to extract the best times from the car immediately. When you drive another car for the first few times you are trying to learn. understand the car. And your are not getting the best times. Also we need to consider that a 0.85 sec difference in a small twisty circuit like this one, is actually a huge difference, expecially when the driver is a pro. Also we need to remember always that the 720S is at least 70/90 hp more powerful than the Pista, and also over 100kg lighter, due to his carbon fiber frame. The 720S straight line performance is incredible, but compared to the Pista, Performante, considering the differences in weight and power, is not so amazing. Imagine the Pista or the Performante with a carbon fiber tub. How much faster they could be? the reason Ferrari and Lambo still keep using aluminium frames, is too keep cost down, due to the low production volumes of this models. Mclaren instead produce 2/3 times more 720S than a Pista or Performante. And it still use evolutions of the carbon fiber tubes since the realise of the MP4-12c. And I am only considering the mechanical aspect of the cars. Also people forgot that the tires used by the manufactures are choose considering a lot of aspects, not just performance, like wheels inertia, wheels camber, tire noise, tire wheight, ride. Using a faster tire (on paper) not always translate in better performance. Apologies in advance for any speeling mistake. Bye from London. Ciao

  • @franciscorodriguez-rm9hh
    @franciscorodriguez-rm9hh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Ferrari 👑

  • @joaodaniel5098
    @joaodaniel5098 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video... keep with that kind of videos

  • @archangelandre4180
    @archangelandre4180 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dang ...Look At That Super 720 Mane ...Great

  • @derbigpr500
    @derbigpr500 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    0.8 sec per lap difference between Ferrari and Mclaren. Just like in Formula 1.

    • @Biconnecc
      @Biconnecc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Damn right!

    • @rizkymahriza6349
      @rizkymahriza6349 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      renault engine

    • @girthvader889
      @girthvader889 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nürburgring lap times, even the old Aventador SV beats it, the SVJ DESTROYS it, it’s really nothing special, Ferrari hasn’t upped its games since the Laferrari came out

    • @soraaoixxthebluesky
      @soraaoixxthebluesky 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Josue Lopez Bring the damn lambo in F1 and see how it goes.

    • @matzepizzaheld8541
      @matzepizzaheld8541 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Josue Lopez @ dude you know the pista already beat the performance around the ring? And destroyed the svj around Hockenheim GP? The magazine Sport Auto has al the laptimes

  • @kylemarso2518
    @kylemarso2518 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Damn pista is a beauty and Crazy fast born for the track

  • @motorfab7014
    @motorfab7014 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bravi
    Competenza ed imparzialità
    Very nice video
    Thanks a lot

  • @KC-dv2rs
    @KC-dv2rs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You lot are forgetting that the pista is track focused and the 720s isn’t wait until the 765lt is out and in production

  • @wellingtoncastro6334
    @wellingtoncastro6334 4 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Ferrari, is Ferrari...
    Forza Ferrari.
    I'm Well from Brazil....
    Congratulationsssssss in the mobile...
    👊

  • @Jewsenburg
    @Jewsenburg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's insane that a standard 720S can compete against a track focust, more expensive car. INSANE

    • @matzepizzaheld8541
      @matzepizzaheld8541 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mr Hamilton @ the 720s competes with the f8 not the pista

  • @Artofwar3004
    @Artofwar3004 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tank god a good track test and not drag racing
    ...they are both insanely fast,and i love this track

  • @Bruce.-Wayne
    @Bruce.-Wayne 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's one of the ultimate comparison....you cant go wrong with either....

  • @stubones
    @stubones 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just wait until Mclaren's track focused version of the 720S is released.. 750LT... Great driving from Ollie, thanks for the video guys.

    • @josephjewellers
      @josephjewellers 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      stubones just wait until Ferrari track focused version of the F8 Tributo

    • @stubones
      @stubones 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Michael Joseph not even vaguely relevant because the Senna GTR exists but just wait for it to be slower than the 750LT 😂

    • @karlmalone11
      @karlmalone11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stubones F8 Tributo is the 488 replacement so it IS relevant

    • @adamv_1036
      @adamv_1036 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The track focus 720s is already out and its called the Senna. Honestly what is McLaren going to do. They are going to have the 720s LT and the Senna which are going to be so close together. If i was a senna owner I would be pissed.

    • @scd
      @scd  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exciting prospect!

  • @villaverdeeggs
    @villaverdeeggs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I picked up my pista in march 2019.....i owned and drove so many cars let me tell you pista the best car in world....but saying that for fun and excitement tge tdf is king

    • @supaahflyy
      @supaahflyy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      coz of the v12?

    • @villaverdeeggs
      @villaverdeeggs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@supaahflyy correct..the tdf engine is alive ....sometimes feeling is better then the stopwatch

    • @supaahflyy
      @supaahflyy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@villaverdeeggs i can understand what you mean by that. I got a tesla about 2 years ago and even though its quick as ill ever need a car to be on the road, you feel like its missing something because you cant hear the noise of the engine. Im guessing its similar to what youre talking about about from a Pista vs a F12. The v12 sound is just something else

    • @hertzer2000
      @hertzer2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Should have gotten a Fiat Panda.

    • @robertlulek1634
      @robertlulek1634 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@supaahflyy I have both a McLaren spider and Lamborghini performante spider. the Lamborghini is more fun to drive because of the noise and sound even though it is slower in a straight line. I actually loved my Lamborghini V12 Super Volace. I have never driven a Ferrari I kind of have a bias against them I think they overpriced that car is kind of like Richard Mille. Audemars piguet reminds me of Lamborghini. And Ferrari remind me of Richard Mille they put a premium on the price when they shouldn't

  • @joejoe8948
    @joejoe8948 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Pista is the most beautiful modern day Ferrari.

  • @StreetComp
    @StreetComp 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would like to know what kind of tires on both cars. Also the Ferrari is actually named Pista so...but well done by Oliver and enjoyed his explanation of lap

  • @Ale55andr082
    @Ale55andr082 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "just over half second", actually is 0.7s, seven tenths...it's a big difference

  • @DryUrEyesMate
    @DryUrEyesMate 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great video guys really appreciate you guys taking the time to make such a fantastic video but 🙈 you forgot the most important thing here and that is tires 🤦🏽‍♂️ both cars should be on the same tire to make this a fair race 👍🏽 and I can see the Ferraris on cups yet the McLaren is on normal road tires 👎🏽

  • @drsbi1
    @drsbi1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video!
    I just wish you kept the music down, so that we can enjoy in sound of the engines

  • @commandergeokam2868
    @commandergeokam2868 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Both cars are amazing

  • @motorrecon200
    @motorrecon200 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A track focused Ferrari and only 0.5s in it on a road focused McLaren. The 750LT tack variant of that will absolutely murder around a track 😍

    • @motorrecon200
      @motorrecon200 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      John Mitchell the F8 is just a Pista with more comfort it won’t be as fast. The SF90 is the near 1000hp one but that’s not a rival for this it’s the next model up.

    • @motorrecon200
      @motorrecon200 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      John Mitchell well that’s definitely not a compatible car to these. That’s Senna and above level. The 720 is a 488 rival.

    • @bigjdm5460
      @bigjdm5460 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Motor Recon don’t forget top gear track it killed the 720s and other tracks it went a lot faster . 750LT vs F8 tributo track version , won’t matter.

    • @titfortat5727
      @titfortat5727 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol stop thinking that some 720 lt will come out senna is already de track focused version

    • @motorrecon200
      @motorrecon200 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Neverrr Obey62 no it isn’t the Senna is an ultimate series and the 720 or it’s faster version when it comes which it is coming is the super series.

  • @jameswillard1
    @jameswillard1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wow Pista sounds a lot more angry and frenetic than the 720S .....that being said how can anyone not say the 720 is the real winner here?! It came within a half second of the Ferrari without the advantage of its much less aggressive tires, that’s insane. Mclaren 720 really is the best 👍🏻

    • @ShadowGodOfDarkness
      @ShadowGodOfDarkness 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't forget the 720s is 2 years older and not really meant for the track.

    • @kushcactushouse3821
      @kushcactushouse3821 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ShadowGodOfDarkness There is no McLaren that is not given track treatment not even the McLaren GT

    • @ShadowGodOfDarkness
      @ShadowGodOfDarkness 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kushcactushouse3821 not to the extent of the pista. But you have a point.

    • @gentnextdoor
      @gentnextdoor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Excuses excuses.... the 720s was treated on track tyres by Motorsport Magazine and came in 2 seconds slower than the Pista at Magny Cours. Cut the crap!

    • @maskito4256
      @maskito4256 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Calm down lady, 720 lost. Not a big deal. Stop making excuses.

  • @Ssh52
    @Ssh52 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How did autocar manage a 1 minute 11 second lap time from the 488 pista on their track battle video?
    Was it a different track configuration?

  • @prokopius1994
    @prokopius1994 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't usually like red ferraris, I'm always for blue/yellow, but the pista looks awesome in this orange-ish red with bronze wheels and that stripe..

  • @S2000Y
    @S2000Y 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Supervid chaps. However unless the cars are on the same tyres ( were they? ) the results are at best ambiguous. In the real world the time difference is a blink of the eye.

    • @scd
      @scd  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed - real world there is no difference

  • @GenaF
    @GenaF 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I just love the pista, it has such lovely curves. The front end is beautiful.

  • @tonertonermc3615
    @tonertonermc3615 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent review of two stunning cars! I would be delighted if anyone can tell me where i can download the excellent intro Soundtrack music up to 2m.11sec?? Many thanks.

  • @555Pleiades
    @555Pleiades 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you

  • @bargym2312
    @bargym2312 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just want to know 2 things. 1, was the ferrari a press car? 2, were they on comparable tires? Doesn't the Fcar come on R-comps vs the 720's summer tires?

    • @scd
      @scd  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      both were SCD members cars on their factory fit tyres.

  • @googleuser-th5hu
    @googleuser-th5hu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The less number of years that took McLaren to get to this level and give car manufacturers like ferrari, Lamborghini and Porsche hard times makes it a little bit superior and majestic for me. But I love all Japanese and European supercars.

  • @blackeyes3313
    @blackeyes3313 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Two of my Fav cars Mc and Ferrari

  • @zenozadra119
    @zenozadra119 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very well made challenge
    That's how cars should be compared

  • @DINU_R
    @DINU_R 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That 720s vinyl is SICK!!

  • @RadialSeeker113
    @RadialSeeker113 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Can't wait to see what the 750LT does. Keep in mind lads the posts is Ferrari's track specced 488gtb. The 720s' track specced car is coming next yr

    • @projectr2451
      @projectr2451 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      That doesn’t matter because the 488 GTB competed with the 650S...these are the successors of the MP4-12C and 458 Italia that competed against each other...
      The logical competitor for the 488 Pista would actually be the 675LT. But McLaren released it too early. The 720S competes with the F8 Tributo. Their track versions will compete too.

    • @lioneldherine6230
      @lioneldherine6230 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@projectr2451 The fact is that MCLaren has released a new model when Ferrari was making a hardcore version of the 488. Same happened when Ferrari came with the 488, MCLaren was focused on the 675 LT. These cars are being released on different intervals of time. Same happened with Lamborghini with Gallardo Superlegerra and Ferrari 430, then Gallardo LP560-4 with 430 Scuderia. So we'll probably see a McLaren 750LT vs Ferrari Tributo comparison, which is stupid I admit, same as Pista against 720S (base model vs hardcore one).

    • @projectr2451
      @projectr2451 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lionel Dherine
      That’s my point. McLaren are releasing cars too quick. Porsche, Lamborghini and Ferrari seem to be in line with each other.
      The 2008 Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4 competes with the 2009 Ferrari 458 Italia and Porsche 911 Turbo (997), the 2014 Lamborghini Huracán LP610-4 competes with the 2015 Ferrari 488 GTB and Porsche 911 Turbo S (991), and the 2019 Lamborghini Huracán LP640-4 Evo competes with the 2019 Ferrari F8 Tributo and will compete with the 911 Turbo (992).
      If we look at their track versions, we can see that Lamborghini, Ferrari and Porsche have managed to release their track versions before one releases their next. Example, the 2012 Porsche 911 GT2 RS (997.2) and 2013 Ferrari 458 Speciale came before Lamborghini released the 2014 Lamborghini Huracán LP610-4. Just like how the 2018 Porsche 911 GT2 RS (991.2) and 2018 Ferrari 488 Pista released before Lamborghini released their 2019 Huracán LP640-4 Evo.
      Same way their track versions are released after all road versions are released. The 911 Turbo S (991.1 & 991.2) and 488 GTB released before the Huracán LP640-4 Performante released. The 911 Turbo S (997) and 458 Italia released before the Gallardo LP570-4 Superleggera released.
      You see my point?

    • @lioneldherine6230
      @lioneldherine6230 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@projectr2451 Yeah sure. But the fact is that people use power as comparison, and that's all. They just miss the fact that both cars can have the same amount of horsepower, but being designed for different purposes. For example the 720S isn't meant to be track focused, compared to the 488 Pista. Same power but different paths. This is the mistake journalists usually make during car comparisons. But Lamborghini started with the Performante on the Ring, so Porsche had to find something quickly and they simply jumped into the GT2 RS instead of the regular GT2. So I assume this is purely competitive and not planned from Porsche. The Evo on the other hand is a street version, they'll probably build a more focused one in a few years and McLaren will probably have replaced the 570S, which will go against that Lambo because they have a comparable amount of power. You see my point ?

    • @projectr2451
      @projectr2451 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lionel Dherine
      I see your point definitely, and it’s true. Because a lot of people did compare the 458 Italia to the Gallardo LP570-4 Superleggera rather than the Gallardo LP560-4, because both had 570hp and 398lb-ft of torque, and also because the 458 Italia was just a much better all round performance car than the Gallardo LP560-4.

  • @jdlarson11
    @jdlarson11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can’t wait until the LT Version of the 720s

  • @op3l
    @op3l 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's a cool comparison. Now I know which car I will buy when i have the money, the Lambo Huracan.

  • @realitychecks2920
    @realitychecks2920 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Given that the 720 is ‘old’ and the pista is new and track focused - maclaren should be happy with that

  • @alexalsted-mahl7527
    @alexalsted-mahl7527 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Shouldn’t the Pista (being the track version) be compared to the LT version of the 720 when it comes out?

    • @devinb3397
      @devinb3397 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Alex Alsted-Mahl no.. because the regular 488 was compared to the 650s. So the pista is really the 675lt competitor. The 720s makes the same power and weighs less so is a fair comparison. To compare it to a 750lt or whatever it is will be stupid

    • @lionelrex1079
      @lionelrex1079 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@devinb3397
      750LT vs what then?

    • @devinb3397
      @devinb3397 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lionel Rex f8 tributo track version?
      Considering the f8 and 720s both have 710hp it seems fair.. the track versions will both have 750-760hp too

    • @lionelrex1079
      @lionelrex1079 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@devinb3397
      F8 Pista?

    • @devinb3397
      @devinb3397 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lionel Rex could be anything, possibly f8 gto

  • @ilyasyatman833
    @ilyasyatman833 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We already know that Pista is fast. My question is, what tires were used on the vehicles? If you don't have the Trofeo R in the 720s, this is a great lap time. Because Pista has a Cup 2 R.

    • @waltertroger8232
      @waltertroger8232 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you know about the Cup2 R? Isn't it just a Cup 2?

    • @matzepizzaheld8541
      @matzepizzaheld8541 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Standard pista is on cup2 which are maybe 2 tenth quicker then the corsas/ for comparison the gt2rs uses the same tyres like the pista

    • @ilyasyatman833
      @ilyasyatman833 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@waltertroger8232 michelin has description on the web.Special tire for Pista , cup 2 R

  • @Eddw5493
    @Eddw5493 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome cars quality video 👍 😁

  • @Z28Gaming
    @Z28Gaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    If this was drag times, the 720s would have won by 3 seconds. He just wouldn’t have told you that the Ferrari had a normal driver while the Mclaren had a veteran.

    • @milanista966
      @milanista966 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      U can’t compare 2 cars only on the straight. If a car win on the straight it doesn’t mean that this car is good in the circuits. You have to look at other things, and not only drag race time

    • @Z28Gaming
      @Z28Gaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Saivohx I agree 100%.

    • @milanista966
      @milanista966 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Z28Gaming 👍

    • @gentnextdoor
      @gentnextdoor 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      True story... he’s a typical McLaren fanboy.

  • @CarsCloseBy1
    @CarsCloseBy1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video but not fair... Pista has Cup2 semislicks while the 720s has its normal pirelli tire instead of the optional trofeo R semislicks

    • @scd
      @scd  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They are both on their factory road tyres - can't help that Michelin make the better tyre :)

    • @CarsCloseBy1
      @CarsCloseBy1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      TheSUPERCARDRIVER I know but mclaren has an optional factory tire that is semislick (trofeo R) which is also much better than the cup2

    • @projectr2451
      @projectr2451 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      AAlmohannad
      The Ferrari wasn’t on its best tires either. It used the Cup 2 and not the Cup 2 R.

    • @CarsCloseBy1
      @CarsCloseBy1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      j n21t4 cup2R is not a factory option or even size is available for the pista... only gt2rs

    • @WeirdBrick
      @WeirdBrick 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yet they still used the cup 2 r in every test done in Europe

  • @mitchlguzin
    @mitchlguzin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    PLEASE do what motorcycle reviewers do (I know it's expensive) and put them on a control tire next time =D

  • @okeyezeilo6187
    @okeyezeilo6187 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    On a circuit this short, just over half a second is quite significant...

  • @IknowBro145
    @IknowBro145 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    And the 720S isn't even track focused. can't wait to see what the LT is going to do

    • @svtrader
      @svtrader 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      But, with 800 actual hp it still lost.

    • @bigjdm5460
      @bigjdm5460 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      maarten : not to mention the 488 generation actually competes with 650s and 675LT. 720s can get an LT it’ll just have to beat F8 track version

    • @eventusvantos2770
      @eventusvantos2770 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@svtrader doesn't matter because Ferrari is way lighter. Mclaren murders pista in acceleration

    • @svtrader
      @svtrader 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@eventusvantos2770 because, as I said, it has more power.

    • @projectr2451
      @projectr2451 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      svtrader
      Better power to weight ratio. Just to correct and make the point that it’s not just power. But you are right. And the Pista has more downforce too.
      But just had to make that point because the Aventador LP770-4 Superveloce Jota has more power than the 911 GT2 RS (991.2) and 488 Pista, and will still get beat by both.

  • @JBL_61
    @JBL_61 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Forza Ferrari !

  • @OceanicOsprey
    @OceanicOsprey 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That 720S patterning and colour is unbelievable.

  • @borginator1493
    @borginator1493 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I figured the Pista had the advantage with the shorter gear ratios, both are truly badass.

  • @gqa9419
    @gqa9419 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nice video but if you used the best track available tires optioned from the factory on both cars i believe the 720s would be faster! But considering its not the 750lt I'm still impressed what a 9 year old car company has accomplished vs. a 60 year old company!!

    • @matzepizzaheld8541
      @matzepizzaheld8541 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gq a @ the Ferrari wasn’t on it best track available tyres aswell, watch motorsport magazine where it had cup2 r and got only beat by 2 s by the senna

    • @gqa9419
      @gqa9419 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matzepizzaheld8541i said factory option. Is the cup 2 R a tire you can option when you order a pista?

    • @matzepizzaheld8541
      @matzepizzaheld8541 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gq a @ yes like the tropheo r are for the 720s

    • @gqa9419
      @gqa9419 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@matzepizzaheld8541 really? where did get this info because i own a 720s spider and to double check I'm on the McLaren 720s configurator now and you can only option the Perelli P zero and P zero corsa for the 720s. So it sounds like you're LYING??

    • @matzepizzaheld8541
      @matzepizzaheld8541 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gq a @ maybe ask dragtimes if you don’t believe me

  • @hakimhamida8549
    @hakimhamida8549 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Piiiistaaa😍😍😍😍😍😍

  • @SmokeyJ69
    @SmokeyJ69 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    These two and a 992 Turbo S would be a great video

  • @dugeniadugeniadugeniadugen5266
    @dugeniadugeniadugeniadugen5266 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Chiron vs. The Jesko. :D

  • @the-Boss-rs
    @the-Boss-rs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Now we want to see Pista vs 720s in straight line ☝🏻

    • @dandylion1987
      @dandylion1987 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dragtimes did it on the autobahn. Close but 720s is a bit faster

    • @algebralineare1
      @algebralineare1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dandylion1987 dragtimes is a fake channel

    • @dandylion1987
      @dandylion1987 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@algebralineare1 no it's definitely a real channel. Has videos on it and everything

    • @matzepizzaheld8541
      @matzepizzaheld8541 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Officerd00fy @ yes but I want to see a standing 1/4 mile, should be very close due to the vbox data of the video

  • @gman9696
    @gman9696 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If the Pista didn't win I would've been shocked. The 720s is a GT lol

  • @tapantiryaki7655
    @tapantiryaki7655 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    488 Pista should be compared with 675 LT

  • @TonyStone3000
    @TonyStone3000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    McLaren's paint job look like an Affliction t-shirt.

  • @mamatamohapatra9207
    @mamatamohapatra9207 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The 720s after this tests "just freaking go to the nearest maclaren center, your car is half way broken with broken suspension from the powerslides"ahhh🤣🤣🙄🙄😵

  • @lakasngamatzko4523
    @lakasngamatzko4523 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    488 for me

  • @JTDLE
    @JTDLE 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gearbox in Pista is INSANE !!!