Remove the Elephant's Foot from Resin 3D Prints - Plus NEW FREE Bulge Buster App

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  • IMPORTANT UPDATE - Bulge Buster is no longer supported. The app was a proof of concept and not long after it was release the functionality was added to Chitubox. Look for a setting called tolerance compensation.
    The Elephant's foot can ruin your 3d resin prints when you print right on the build plate. In this video I discuss 3 methods for removing the elephant's foot bulge and show you how to use an app I made called Bulge Buster to process 3d print files and remove it. However as I said the app is no longer supported.
    The shirt I'm wearing in this video is not my own slogan but is from the Screen Rant Pitch Meeting videos featuring Ryan George. We find them pretty funny - check them out. No connection to this channel. I'm just a fan.
    My hat - well if you know it put it in the comments. It's custom made and not for sale unfortunately.
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  • @ayalde
    @ayalde 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Wow, That is some serious effort you did! Not only with the app develpment and testing etc, but also in the making of the video. I love that you show renders of how the resin printer works for example, and also the very detailed explanations, all acompanied with footage. Seriously a testament to patience and discipline! Well done and thank you.

    • @Nerdtronic
      @Nerdtronic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you very much! Check out my video on Why Resin Prints Fail which has more animations and explanations.

  • @peterteal880
    @peterteal880 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Thanks for all of your hard work. I'm sure that many resin printer users will find this tool invaluable.

  • @magoobtoys
    @magoobtoys 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I thought I understood enough about FDM and SLA printing until I saw your videos. The visualizations that you use are probably the easiest to understand that I've come across. Thank you!

    • @Nerdtronic
      @Nerdtronic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great to hear! Thanks!

  • @Hooverdreng
    @Hooverdreng 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is great! I also see this as something that will or should be standard in slicers. Absolutely brilliant. On of those things that seems obvious once it has been invented. I am looking forward to using it. You earned my subscription long ago, but it now comes with my admiration along side!

  • @nathanb62
    @nathanb62 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like that you don't rush projects and how thorough you are. SUBBED.

  • @Markovian_
    @Markovian_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Shirts from other youtubers is TIGHT!

    • @Mr1FTW
      @Mr1FTW 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well ok then! ;)

    • @jarrajoseph-mcgrath9142
      @jarrajoseph-mcgrath9142 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Came back from the future to say when it’s time for the wash that shirts gonna need to get aaalllllll the way off of his back!

  • @reprinted3D
    @reprinted3D 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I am absolutely blown away by this! The work you've put into this is stunning, and your presentation is excellent. I used to code clients server applications, so I appreciate what you've done here. So glad I've subscribed to your channel!

  • @yakovlevlt
    @yakovlevlt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That is incredible amount of research you made for this video, and all your videos explain perfectly hiw things work on a deeper level. Best 3D printing channel out there, thank you so much for you work!

  • @Krrrrrrk
    @Krrrrrrk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Crazy! Thank you for putting in so much time creating this solution!

  • @ecmo1226
    @ecmo1226 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fantastic work, sir! You have some of the best content and one of the most effective presentation styles on TH-cam. It's clear that you put a lot of work into each video and I look forward to where you'll take this channel.

    • @Nerdtronic
      @Nerdtronic  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. I hope to take it towards doing more project oriented videos. Build some cool stuff.

  • @donwoolf
    @donwoolf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh my! What a quaity of life improvement. TH-cam, where did this video hide so long?! Will try out right now...
    Keep up the good work!

  • @Rocknoob49
    @Rocknoob49 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    as a newbie diving into resin printing, finding your channel has been a godsent.
    the production value is great, the script straightforward and professional. And at the same time you seem like a great guy who just enjoys what he does.
    I am adopting your safety workflow, upgrading my printstation and now I can't wait to also experiment with printing straight on the plate.

    • @Nerdtronic
      @Nerdtronic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cool! Good luck.

  • @kelbertlima1192
    @kelbertlima1192 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing work! Congratulations!
    You are helping much more people than you can imagine.
    Nice to see smart improvements in this technology.

  • @marcbodewes1066
    @marcbodewes1066 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for all your effort and experiments. I will give this a try.

  • @SaturnsReturn77
    @SaturnsReturn77 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Overexposure is not the only culprit of elephant's foot. There is little time for resin to settle after the build plate has entered the resin, positioning itself as the next layer is exposed. Some printers allow per layer settings and can be tuned with UV tools

  • @archangeloliver
    @archangeloliver 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is absolutely something that needs to be integrated into chitubox and other slicers. Brilliant way of reducing the elephant's foot!

    • @Nerdtronic
      @Nerdtronic  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I assumed that they'd borrow the idea and put it in there, but I'm not sure they're going to. They have similar features but not exactly this. To really replice the functionality of the BB app you also need to print the test chips so you can find the best reduction for your resin.

  • @dennisdohogne4747
    @dennisdohogne4747 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As always your videos are VERY well done! Clear and helpful, but most of all you explain your logic and the testing of your theories. This helps us to understand rather than just "take someone else's word for it". By the way, I agree with your daughter - something dimmed 10% is 90% of its original brightness. I have shared links to so many of your videos, probably the most has been Calibrating Your Resin 3d Printer. This will be high on the list! BRAVO and THANK YOU!!

    • @Nerdtronic
      @Nerdtronic  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much!

  • @mallus1001
    @mallus1001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you ❤️This is pretty amazing work, you just became one of my heroes.
    Love that you did both windows and Mac versions.

    • @Nerdtronic
      @Nerdtronic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks.. and Linux 64 bit

  • @les0932
    @les0932 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you! Alot of hard work went into this. I can see this becoming a popular app!

  • @ryanleslie7425
    @ryanleslie7425 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The timing of this video couldn't be better, thanks for all your efforts! Photon Mono X is arriving today, and I'll predominantly be printing functional mechanical parts.

    • @Nerdtronic
      @Nerdtronic  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s possible that printer needs a .pws or .photons file (with an s) in which case it won’t work yet.

    • @ryanleslie7425
      @ryanleslie7425 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Nerdtronic I'm absolutely new to resin printing, but technically minded. If you need help in any way testing this or porting this to the newer version anycubic machines let me know and I'll try and help out.

  • @jasperjanderson
    @jasperjanderson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting stuff. Thanks for walking us through your process. I'm looking forward to giving this a try.

    • @Nerdtronic
      @Nerdtronic  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hope you enjoy it!

  • @Skoose
    @Skoose 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kudos to you. You obviously spent a good bit of time, sweat equity and intelligence into this presentation and the APP. This graphics and animations are very understandable and it helps to see how you drew your conclusions. I am new to Resin printing but not to 3D printing. I am confident this app will have a place in my work. Thank you

  • @ahmedalshaheen4432
    @ahmedalshaheen4432 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow this project is so valuable and you helped the whole community with this app, excellent job

  • @stingray4567
    @stingray4567 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is AWESOME! Selective dimming is a really elegant solution to this problem.

  • @Jonas_Fox
    @Jonas_Fox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You're a madman and a genius, in the best possible way! I just want to be able to make simple miniature bases printed straight to the bed without distortion and without too much elephant footing. I look forward to trying some of this science on my bases. Thanks for all you do Nerdtronic, you're the man!

    • @marcthibodeaux6710
      @marcthibodeaux6710 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was looking at this video for this exact reason. Have you had any success with printing miniatures directly on the plate without an elephants foot?

  • @PandorasFolly
    @PandorasFolly 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do development work and I can appreciate just how much effort you put into this app. Especially when combined with the very technical nature of what it's trying to accomplish and frankly the experimental nature getting rid of the elephants foot bulge.
    Just amazing work. Simply amazing. Thank you for all your efforts

    • @Nerdtronic
      @Nerdtronic  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. Yeah it took more work than I hoped or expected.

  • @chriskind
    @chriskind 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for sharing your hard work with us! I can't wait to try this.

  • @ryanturner3234
    @ryanturner3234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just discovering your channel. You are evidently a very clever person! Fantastic.

  • @Conracardenas
    @Conracardenas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    - No doubt you made a great effort doing this video, and then you top it up with the app; a million respect for you, sir.
    I resolve this issue of the Elephant's Foot by giving a 45-degree chamfer to the edge of the part, a chamfer slightly bigger than the resulting total height of the bottom exposure base.
    You did an excellent job!

  • @bobbytwoshoe8851
    @bobbytwoshoe8851 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is invaluable advice and knowledge, thank you for sharing it.

  • @dickmorris6310
    @dickmorris6310 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting and good explanation of the technical issues. Thanks.

    • @Nerdtronic
      @Nerdtronic  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are welcome!

  • @baccustomjewellery-498
    @baccustomjewellery-498 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing!! Clever ideas and a lot of hard work. Cant wait to use them on my projects.

  • @r00yce
    @r00yce 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kudos to your explanations and efforts!

  • @The1Verse
    @The1Verse 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely incredible, I have been struggling to fix the bulge on gears I am printing for a puzzle box. I appreciate all the work you put into this, very very well done :) Also, Fred Johnson would commend you for your hat :)

  • @davidriggle7825
    @davidriggle7825 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent, this will save me a lot work sanding off the foot on timing pulleys.
    I use my printer for functional functional prints and I tend to use the lowest possible exposure to get the tolerances as tight as possible and I get the best results when I print directly on the build plate. One disadvantage though, is the limited bridging distance.
    Have you ever thought about trying to improve bridging distance by increasing the exposure time on layers with an abrupt transition?
    It seems like your software allows you the ability to contract and over-expose arbitrary layers in the print which could enable stronger overhangs.
    Keep up the good work!

  • @frankmxparts
    @frankmxparts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing work, thanks for putting the effort into this. Will be trying this on the Saturn soon.

  • @markferrick10
    @markferrick10 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is terrific. I am just getting my first resin printer and I am looking forward to using your tool. Thank you.

    • @Nerdtronic
      @Nerdtronic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The tool isn't currently being updated and there are now issues with loading files since Chitubox locked up their file format. There are new ways to do it in Chitubox. Not exactly the same but will still work.

  • @jillmack8886
    @jillmack8886 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for all your hard work!

  • @rshahid93
    @rshahid93 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This channel is so under rated! Subscribed!

  • @anibalgonzalez7990
    @anibalgonzalez7990 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the pedagogic scientific approach to explaining and testing.
    The tshirt is hilarious btw.

    • @Nerdtronic
      @Nerdtronic  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. The shirt is from another youtuber's channel. Ryan George.

  • @typebin
    @typebin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you for your tons of effort into this and especially supports for the mac users!

  • @MiniaturePlayer
    @MiniaturePlayer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice work, been doing that already. You make it much more clear on so many points, good work.

  • @ethansdad3d
    @ethansdad3d 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is brilliant, and I look forward to trying it!

  • @lijath
    @lijath 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know a comment doesn't mean that much but I want to thank you for not just making a video but also making a meaningful contribution to the 3D printing community

  • @nicknewhousemusic
    @nicknewhousemusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is so incredibly thorough thank you so much!!

  • @torravengael4490
    @torravengael4490 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I am very intrigued by the 8mm film scanner. I worked for 13 years at a small video production company in the late 90's early 2000's. One of the things we did, pretty much continuously, was convert old home movies to video. I was constantly frustrated by the limitations of the equipment. I am very curious about what you have come up with!

  • @danieleschemann5446
    @danieleschemann5446 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is fantastic! Would be so nice to see this integrated as optional settings directly in ChituBox.

  • @readywhen
    @readywhen ปีที่แล้ว +2

    NEW FINDING OF THE MAIN CAUSE! Elephants foot is mostly caused by resin STILL FLOWING as it gets "squished out" underneath the built plate. This flowing resin cures as it flows, causing the elephants foot. How to FIX the elephants foot? Wait till the resin has stopped flowing before turning on the UV light. This pretty much completely removes the elephants foot. For details on how to do this, look up the blog by Jan Mrázek.

  • @jaredtangeman9669
    @jaredtangeman9669 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for working so hard at this problem. I am just starting out and gathering information and your videos have been extremely well done in a way that helps me absorb the information I'm trying to understand very thoroughly and in a way that fills in the tactile, practical, and conceptual details. I ordered the 4k Photon and I'm waiting for it to ship. You worked out a really great solution to this problem!
    I'm in the process of wrapping my brain around how printing and curing and light intensity all intertwine. Have you considered that the only time this is an issue is when the build plate is so close to the LCD that the light halo from the open pixels able to reflect diffused light back down at the intensity required to cure the resin?
    The light from underneath is not coming through at a specific angle, but the intensity of the halo is lower because the light source is farther away.
    If you have your intensity set properly, there isn't enough light to even partially activate the surrounding resin through the rest of the build, otherwise you would have a bunch of floaters. I am thinking it needs a certain intensity of light to start the activation, in addition to a certain exposure time to fully cure the layer before moving to the next layer.
    This would mean to me that the majority of the elephant foot is formed from light coming in directly perpendicular to the pixel. The fact that as the foot shrinks as the first layers build seem to confirm this hypothesis as the intensity of the reflecting light would reduce with each layer as it's absorbed by the cured resin.
    I'm curious to know if the problem is reduced by using an anodized black build plate or a matte black magnet mat like I use on my FDM printer.
    It may be as simple as adding a matte black adhesive vinyl over the build plate. I have some and I will try it out as one of my first experiments when my printer gets here.
    P.S. you're dimming the light intensity, not the pixel. A fully blacked out lcd TV display would be 100% dim, lol.

  • @Rsslbaker1
    @Rsslbaker1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing work! your channel is a lifesaver

  • @DavidMVFX
    @DavidMVFX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a great video. Thank you so much, will try it right away.

  • @ricklynch
    @ricklynch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done! Very clever approach(s)!
    I think the double exposure would be the most accurate. Ironically, I have Herringbone Gears to accurately print! When I saw this, I was quite impressed! 👍👍👍

    • @Nerdtronic
      @Nerdtronic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! In my experience actually the pixel dimming works the best.

  • @cavision
    @cavision 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for all your work. Very cool.

  • @SilverScreamX
    @SilverScreamX 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    2k likes? should be more like 200,000... we do know how much effort it took, because comes from passion! keep doing what u do, we love it.

  • @rickywong5551
    @rickywong5551 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing work. I don't sub often but you've earned it!

  • @leisureshoot
    @leisureshoot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is amazing innovation. Let's hope this catches on throughout the industry. Let's hope you get some reward for trailblazing.

  • @sanctusletum8522
    @sanctusletum8522 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You sir, are a treasure to the printing community. As a new maker I have learned so much from your content, which is clear, concise, and interestingly presented.
    Then to top it off you come out with something like this which is going to be literally a game changer for sp many people.
    Thank you. Seriously thank you for chosing to be an educator for this community.

    • @Nerdtronic
      @Nerdtronic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow, thank you!

    • @wilfdarr
      @wilfdarr ปีที่แล้ว

      No hyperbole! I love how he says "this project took me longer than I expected"
      I would expect it to take me ... Well I wouldn't even know where to start so literally forever? Dude is amazing.

  • @jackberlien8916
    @jackberlien8916 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is an amazing resource! You have a gift for this stuff, and for explaining it perfectly! I do have a question - in your experiments with bottom layers, do you have a feeling for what the actual thicknesses end up being? Is it possible, given the limited movement of the build plate to have additional thickness because of the long exposure, or is this physically limited by the build plate movement?

    • @Nerdtronic
      @Nerdtronic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It should be limited by the build plate movement. I wouldn't think a longer exposure could make that first layer any thicker in the Z. However, I have noticed that some 3d print files set the first layer Z value to zero and some to , and then also on z calibration maybe you use the piece of paper method. So it is possible that the first layer could be one of several different height - while the rest should be . And I don't have the expertise or equipment to analyze or measure it. For my test files I did a layer height of 5 microns so I could really tell what the build plate was doing.

  • @happyfarang
    @happyfarang ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool. Thank you for this and the effort you put in. I print a lot directly on the build plate so this is really good news for me :) You got a sub from me for sure

  • @freshmanfrenchman1
    @freshmanfrenchman1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing video, super thorough. I might add however, that when printing small parts that do not need overexposure, there is another technique i just tested. Step 1 lower the number of bottom layers slightly and bring exposure down as well. Step 2 when designing the part add a champfer on all edges that will touch the buildplate. Step 3 tweak the values of all 3 changes until the elephants foot fills in the champfer. Then if still an issues try the pixel dimming above.

    • @kimnielsen9320
      @kimnielsen9320 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just like we do on a FDM printer , except for the pixel dimming :-D

  • @Aaron.Reichert
    @Aaron.Reichert ปีที่แล้ว

    extreemly interesting and relevant to what I have been trying to do.

  • @dalel.d.9678
    @dalel.d.9678 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Doing an incredible job! looking forward to a photons addition.

    • @Nerdtronic
      @Nerdtronic  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hopefully I can add that. Can't promise when yet.

  • @wilkomirwilk110
    @wilkomirwilk110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks mate! Awsome work :)

    • @Nerdtronic
      @Nerdtronic  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you liked it!

  • @martinyoung2326
    @martinyoung2326 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can do this in Chitubox, go to print settings - advanced option - bottom tolerance compensation

  • @stvcolwill
    @stvcolwill 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What can I say, Michael? Except that you make me wanna be a better 3-D print Hobbyist. I tip my entire hat collection to you sir!Great job

    • @Nerdtronic
      @Nerdtronic  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wanted to wear a different hat on each video but I don't think I'd have enough room to store the hats. At least if I make all the videos I want to make. (life goals)

  • @robertflinch2447
    @robertflinch2447 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is just what I needed. Saved me so much grinding g

  • @rebeltaz123
    @rebeltaz123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was just looking for a way to reduce or eliminate elephants foot on my Mars 2. Thank you so much for this. And a linux version, even! Cannot wait to try this out.

    • @jaredjones6570
      @jaredjones6570 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Try out the tolerance compensation features that are now built into the newest version of Chitubox (1.8.1). I'm going to test nerdtronic's app and the tolerance compensation features in Chitubox on my mars 2 and see how they compare in terms of convenience and functionality.

    • @rebeltaz123
      @rebeltaz123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jaredjones6570 Thank you. I am new to all of this resin printing. I'll give that a try.

  • @MrSpudtheBinx
    @MrSpudtheBinx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought a resin printer to print planetary gearboxes, the elephant footing has been a critical problem for me. I will be testing Bulge Buster on an Elegoo Mars, I will let you know the results. Thanks for putting in so much time and effort!

  • @zachzee590
    @zachzee590 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this channel, can you please make the cleaning tutorial you mentioned in your dogtag video. My prints dont look as good as yours after post processing!

    • @Nerdtronic
      @Nerdtronic  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes it is coming soon. Q1 2021

  • @user-eg8li6no4u
    @user-eg8li6no4u 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    THX! Great explaning ))

  • @klaudio001
    @klaudio001 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! Thanks for this amazing and super detailed tutorial, excellent work ! I have a question, does the app work with Anycubic Mono X ?

    • @Nerdtronic
      @Nerdtronic  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What file format is that? I don't think it does YET. I have some other projects that I have to complete first and then I'll add some more file support. If Anycubic wanted to send me a printer to test I'm pretty sure I could get it working ;)

    • @MaximilianonMars
      @MaximilianonMars 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Nerdtronic The Anycubic Photon Mono X uses the file format .pwmx which is currently not supported by Chitubox, but is supported by Photon Workshop slicer (said to be very buggy) and Lychee Slicer which I have just installed as I need to start printing with my Mono X soon. Your videos and presentation style are excellent, I wonder when your next video is due from time to time as I always learn something. Thank you for your work!

    • @Nerdtronic
      @Nerdtronic  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Working on my next video now. Printing Chocolates with a 3d resin printer. Well... sort of :)

  • @liborferencak8297
    @liborferencak8297 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi, this is realy awesome video and it helped me quite a lot to understand how SLA works in etail. The program looks also really good, but I cannot use it, since I have only photon mono x. I tried to print some gears and shafts, but I was unable to do so, due to issue described oin this video. (with supports I was also inable to print because the gears are ussually not strait)
    I would like to kindly ask you if it would be possible to add support for *.pwmx files for anycubic?
    Thank you a lot.

  • @watsonstudios
    @watsonstudios 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very Nice. In Chitubox, you can also use the "bottom tolerance" setting in the advanced section to shrink the overall outline of just the bottom layers to compensate for the elephants foot.

    • @Nerdtronic
      @Nerdtronic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the info! Chitubox can't print the bottom reduction test so you can see how many pixels to reduce. I sort of think that's a key part of the calibration. It also doesn't have the pixel dimming method.
      Still, glad they are starting to put this functionality right in the software. I wonder where they got the idea? 🤔
      Bulge Buster was more of a proof of concept. I'd be fine with it just being part of the slicer.

    • @TheDomis4
      @TheDomis4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just figured out Lychee could also do this in the Resin Configuration -> Compensation -> Burn in Layers -> px

  • @vesslades
    @vesslades 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Impressive work! You just got a new subscriber :)

    • @Nerdtronic
      @Nerdtronic  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome, thank you!

  • @blueckaym
    @blueckaym ปีที่แล้ว

    There's also a simpler method at the only cost of spending a bit more resin - don't print on the build plate (which I'm always to do with miniatures bases for example), use some supports and the elephant foot will be left only on the supports/raft, which goes in the trash.
    This video is very interesting from the aspect to understand (and control) precisely the printing, but I don't think it's very practical for most people (unless it's somehow automated in next gen printers)
    Btw, if I understand correctly the transition layers purpose is not so much to reduce the elephant foot (they can't reduce it on the very bottom layers that take the full exposure anyway),
    but to ensure more gradual curing condition of these layers, to prevent delamination (by having two layers being cured at 10 times different speeds)

  • @AFV85
    @AFV85 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    On these larger printers the UV intensity is alway default to 100% it can have a massive effect of over exposure trying to dial in your exposure settings! Even dropping it to 90% makes a massive difference in getting that exposure dialed in! We follow a couple of professionals and trying out some of their findings over a few of our printers the light intensity works great on the elegoo printers and uniformation and Of course Phrozens printers as these seem to have a super stong UV light that needs dropped to around 80% light intensity

  • @ZeleBVoBVA
    @ZeleBVoBVA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job, thank you!

  • @user-yk4jc2ez5d
    @user-yk4jc2ez5d 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I also think the rough & reflective build plate will disperse the UV light to surround resin near bottom layers, causing elephant foot aswell.
    great video!

    • @user-yk4jc2ez5d
      @user-yk4jc2ez5d 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And due to the reflective of the build plate, i think the bottom layer resin tend to receive higher UV intensity, because the UV light will come through the resin to the build plate, and reflected by the build plate, and expose the resin again.

    • @Frankienoname0
      @Frankienoname0 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, this is true, I've noticed this more when I started using my reflective Flex Plate, and even more when using translucent resin.

  • @mikiauto73
    @mikiauto73 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    While it's commendable to acknowledge your efforts in testing and developing this feature, I must mention that Lychee Slicer handles elephants foot perfectly and with ease, especially with the grayscale feature. Additionally, I'd like to inform you that printing on the build plate is only advisable for flat and thin parts, such as the wheels you've tested. The bed offsets are not perfectly flat right out of the factory. If you desire perfectly squared faces, you'll need supports. Resin is not FDM. You need angles from the lcd screen for good balance of forces.

  • @glowing_kitty
    @glowing_kitty 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow, awesome video and project:) would love to have that also work with the Photon Mono X :o any update on supporting more printers? Or are there any other workarounds? (besides using support material of course)

  • @alex3d453
    @alex3d453 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, great content...thanks for sharing your expertise. I just got into resin printing for functional parts and I'd like to ask you a question. It seems the best way to print functional parts for dimensional accuracy and speed is bottom down (flat on the build plate). One problem with that, aside from bulge, is the large cross-sectional area makes FEP release problematic. I noticed your build plate at 17s is full of parts printed flat down. How do you ensure consistent FEP release?

    • @Nerdtronic
      @Nerdtronic  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stick the build plate in a ziplock bag and then in the freezer for 15 min. The parts will fall right off.

    • @alex3d453
      @alex3d453 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Nerdtronic thats a good tip thanks. But are you ever concerned with too much suction during the print from the large cross-section?

  • @anycost
    @anycost 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is such a fantastic initiative; explaining the issue, different approaches to combat it and then, the cherry on top, an application to assist us in combatting exactly that! What more could we ask for? Massive kudos!
    (Except for this little itty bitty thing, that might be user error, but I just can't get to work;
    I downloaded the latest version, got it running without issues.
    Dragged a cbddlp on it, loads just fine.
    Chose "Method: Pixel Dimming" and made a few adjustments.
    Exported the result to a new file (it still ends with cbddlp, cause I only have a Mars, so the PHZ-format won't work)
    Dragged the newly exported busted cbddlp file in, loaded just fine.
    Clicked "Unpack Images", and I can see the PNG:s just fine
    Here's the issue: No matter how I adjust the settings in Bulge Buster, for Pixel Dimming, the only results that are applying is the Contract Radius (and Bust Layers). The Dimming% does not apply, there are no grays in the resulting images, as you show in your video.
    Halp!)
    Extra question: Is there anywhere we would be able to discuss this (or other Nerdtronic related topics) other than TH-cam comments? I couldn't really find anything pointed out anywhere.

  • @Olechristianfoto
    @Olechristianfoto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is amazing! 👏👏
    Thanks!

  • @zedwizz
    @zedwizz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great work my friend. I was having trouble printing small letters and they would always end up with this elephants foot but not now!! I have used this on my Elegoo Mars 2 :)

    • @Nerdtronic
      @Nerdtronic  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh glad it worked. There is also a function inside chitubox now that does it. For when my app stops working, which it will as soon as you upgrade to the latest chitubox. :(

  • @SerialtheK
    @SerialtheK 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great work, waiting for Anycubic mono 4k.

  • @Tinetikon
    @Tinetikon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Genius genius genius. Amasing u solve big problem :)))
    Thankss

  • @voltage3d469
    @voltage3d469 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome work man

  • @IAMCUBEMAN
    @IAMCUBEMAN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In using BulgeBuster, I've discovered, at least on my Anycubic Photon and Elegoo ABS like, that even with pixel dimming, which I find very interesting, that while I can match dimensions for bottom and regular layers, there's still an Elephants Foot that's about 0.1-0.2mm larger, regardless of settings and bottom layers. I'm guessing it's because no resin is 100% opaque, and the uv light is reflecting off the bed for an arbitrary thickness of resin until the layers are thick enough to absorb all the light, over exposing the first few layers regardless of exposure time or busting. I discovered this whole printing a overhanging bevel directly on the bed and found it wasn't flush, but I noticed it on perpendicular faces as well. At first I thought it was just the nature of overhangs and sla printing, but I didn't see any similar artifacts when printing with supports. I haven't had the time to test this and I lack high precision tools, but I think I can alleviate this by a pure pixel contraction for the height and length of the ridge, and further doing a subsequent pixel dimming.

    • @Frankienoname0
      @Frankienoname0 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for this explanation Bradley. I think you've definitely figured why this is happening. I'm seeing this more with translucent resin. I have some Siraya Tech Blu Obsidian Black (more opaque than what I've been using) and this will let me test out this theory. I think this might also have something to do with fact that I'm using a highly reflective Flex Plate that is exacerbating the issue. Some prints just don't work well with supports unfortunately.

  • @leuizeknunes
    @leuizeknunes ปีที่แล้ว

    Great work indeed! Maybe you could also add the gears as a default test file in the installation?

  • @AlejandroHernandez-qd5bj
    @AlejandroHernandez-qd5bj 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just got my printer about a week ago, the Phrozen Sonic Mighty 4k is awesome but I'm having trouble printing mechanical parts with straight lines. hopefully printing on the build plate can help me get some more consistency. I'll try it either way, but I was wondering if you thought that the overexposure method would work on other Phrozen printers? or is it really just exclusively the transform?

  • @VnTCliffy
    @VnTCliffy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really appreciate the depth on this topic that only a true nerd would delve to (said with pride, as a fellow nerd and rabbit hole diver). The app is amazing! Even though I couldn't see how it would work with my Photon.
    Your work, and description of the problem (awesome graphics!) inspired me in two ways. First, that printing on the base isn't a sin; it actually might be preferable for parts that really need a flat base (like most of mine). Second, that there might be a way to counteract the bulge, and save all that knifing and filing and sanding (I just thought I'd have to live with that, as an artifact of the process).
    So, inspired by your work, I did something that wouldn't have occurred to me otherwise. I measured the height of the bulge, and put in a chamfered edge of that height (45 degrees), across the entire bottom surface of the source model. STL'd it out, C'boxed it using no supports, printed it out. And the bulge is almost entirely gone! With a perfect base!
    My hat's off to you Michael, great job!

    • @Nerdtronic
      @Nerdtronic  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome! That's great to hear. I assume you have a newer Photon? I hope to add support for .pws files and .photons files early next year.

    • @VnTCliffy
      @VnTCliffy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, the Photon S (.photons file) and Mono X (.pwmx file). Thanks!!

  • @diekellerwerft6932
    @diekellerwerft6932 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you very much for sharing this Programm to the Community. Hopefully it becomes in the Future support for the Anycubic Photon Printer. That is what i'm waiting for. Meanwhile i had to print a couple mm above the Platform...

    • @Nerdtronic
      @Nerdtronic  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope to add photon support in a few months.

    • @diekellerwerft6932
      @diekellerwerft6932 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nerdtronic I (and many others) are happy to hear that. I wish you a happy new year ... and may the force be with you😉

  • @thisplayer01
    @thisplayer01 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    great effort and really thorough - thanks a lot!
    Q: what's the advantage of build plate prints vs using supports?

    • @Nerdtronic
      @Nerdtronic  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Check out my other video on why resin prints fail. Printing on the build plate makes the bottom surface flat. Not bumpy like it gets with supports. Can’t always do it. But sometimes it’s better if you can.

  • @clintstlaurent4263
    @clintstlaurent4263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oy Beratna - Love the Tycho Station cap!

    • @Nerdtronic
      @Nerdtronic  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      2 points! Yeah I made these. Had a guy print the patches and put on a generic hat.

  • @JanKrummrey
    @JanKrummrey 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the comprehensive video. I was wondering if you could guide me on a problem you seem to have solved. I wand to print small printing plates for my OpenPress. The workflow would be similar. Start with a base, then switch to an image that is to be printed. To support it a number of intermediate layers that are dilated to give more support. I know how to generate the single Layers, I just can't figure out how to make them into a valid print file. Any help would be appreciated.

  • @pascallongpre7797
    @pascallongpre7797 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a lot, works great with the Phrozen Mighty 4K! Happy to see that I'll be able to print directly on the build plate and save a of time!

    • @Nerdtronic
      @Nerdtronic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just prefer it. My brain operates in terms of the ideal way that things should work. I'm an idealist. I often forget about the reality of the problems and issues like tolerances, weight of parts, inprecision of steppers or whatever. In a perfect world we wouldn't need any supports. But sometimes we do.

    • @pascallongpre7797
      @pascallongpre7797 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nerdtronic I'd like to run something by you about BulgeBuster. Is there an email I can contact you? You can reach me at longprep@hotmail.com if you prefer.

    • @Nerdtronic
      @Nerdtronic  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pascallongpre7797 michael@nerdtronic3d.com

    • @volleyballOCS
      @volleyballOCS 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      what settings do you use with bulge buster on your mighty 4k

    • @pascallongpre7797
      @pascallongpre7797 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@volleyballOCS I ran multiple tests and it the most versatile settings have been using the reduction only method with a contract radius of 2 or 3 and 4 bust layers. Of course this might change a lot depending on the part you are printing.

  • @alexandersherrod5196
    @alexandersherrod5196 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Truly Brilliant

  • @mrburns366
    @mrburns366 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is really cool! I think many of these methods are better than the compensation in Chitubox! The double exposure thing could be added with a firmware update if companies like anycubic would do it

  • @HelgeKeck
    @HelgeKeck 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Im from Germany, we have words for everything, but i cant find any appropiate words for what you have done. Thank you

    • @Nerdtronic
      @Nerdtronic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow, thank you! And I have an app update coming out tomorrow that should fix the international numbers issue. USA uses periods for decimal point where some of the rest of the world uses a comma for that. This was a bug in the app that is fixed in the 0.9.3 update

    • @HelgeKeck
      @HelgeKeck 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nerdtronic Im a X-Plat Dev and know these kind of issues very well. Numbers, Dates, ... its just anoying sometimes. You did an awesome job for the first version

    • @Nerdtronic
      @Nerdtronic  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks.