Printer Fumes Gone - Designing and 3d Printing a Vent - 3D Printer Ventilation System
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.พ. 2020
- The 3d printer fumes really get to me. So I designed and printed a ventilation box with an integrated fan. In this video I go over the desin, show what went wrong, and print it and install it in the wall.
All printer files are here: www.thingiverse.com/thing:418...
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About the files:
The prints I did here I accidentally exported on Medium quility instead of High quality. So that's why the circles and curves are a little rough. The files on Thingiverse were re-exported for better quality.
Also I designed this with .5 mm clearance everywhere. This was an overkill. .25 would have been good enough. I tweaked some of this before posting on Thingiverse.
I also added screw holes to the outer corners of the baseplate as an option to use those.
Also note that while I didn't show it in the video I did use anchors in the drywall.
Finally - Newer versions of the Transform printer have 3 fans blowing in and only one blowing out. So in that case you would only need to print one of the adapters and you'd probably want to cap the extra intake on the vent. Or use it for a 2nd printer.
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More...more videos, please. I want to learn more about the transform. Anything.
Thanks! I do have more coming. The next video is mostly animated so it’s taking me 3 weeks to finish it. Then I have new projects coming after that.
Would this allow the printer to stay on your bedroom while operating?
I look forward to the fumes. That's when the leprechauns come out to play!
Love it. In that case install the fan backwards.
@@Nerdtronic what decade is this? Where am I?
@@walperstyle how you like the fumes so far?
@@readywhen what dimension are you messaging from?
@@walperstyle Sounds good, I'll definitely consider reversing the air flow on my fans!
I'm surprised you were able to make such a large functional part from an SLA printer, really that project falls much more comfortably in FDMs wheelhouse.
It's the reason I bought the printer. I'll have more project videos on here where I print functional parts. We'll see how they work out.
Nerdtronic I would be interested to see that!
I would do this on my FDM was exactly what I was thinking. If I had to do it on my SLA I would slow the print for a longer exposure and use a fiber resin. Not sure if this would help but that's my first thought.
Amazing effort on your part. If I had done it, there would have been a lot less CAD and a lot more duct tape. Once completed, I would have hailed my silvery spagetti-wire creation as an engineering masterpiece, pounded my chest, and declared myself master of the universe.
I was truly impressed with your effort and attention to detail. Thanks for the video.
Haha! That's awesome. My AC hookup does have a lot of duct tape. :)
"less CAD" "more duct tape" LoL!
The magnet connector part is a great idea. Thanks for sharing.
Hey this is great. About to be finished with your back-catalogue, can't wait to see what's next!
I just got my first printer and immediately had a reaction to the fumes. This is exactly what I needed. Awesome music choice during the Fusion 360 section! Reminds me of Justice.
Awesome job! Great walkthrough in print failure troubleshooting. 👍🏼👍🏼
I have my resin printer (Shuffle XL) in IKEA's "bostrak" wardrobe, along with all of the resin bottles and the ultrasonic cleaner. It really helps to contain be mess!
I like the vents and all but I'm more blown away that you made a room just for your Transform :P
Ha! True. I couldn't have it in the house with the fumes and the resin. Eventually it will be for other makers tools as well and a place to build robots and other things ;)
Thanks for making this video. I've been thinking about getting into 3d printing and your videos are super helpful. I was going to put my printer in my office (spare bedroom) but after watching this I'm thinking about putting it in my garage next to my Glowforge. That way I can hook up an exhaust hose and share the Glowforges air filter.
Another excellent video. Still waiting on my Transform to ship.
This is really good, big thanks to you Michael :)
Great video. Excellent content and clearly and well printed, oops, presented. Just fyi, it is usual to drill pilot holes for wood screws, even if using in wood. There are charts online specifying the drill bit size corresponding to the screw size. Keep the good stuff coming!
Thank you for the video, I was looking at making a full enclosure but this makes so much more sense.
Glad it was helpful! Now I have to redesign to include more printers. And carbon filtering might be a good video.
Thank you so much Michael. I appreciate you and your time. Well done.
You bet! :)
You are doing god's work here!!!!! Thank you so very much for all of this!!!!
Excellent video, as usual. I'm glad you let us see the errors and corrections too.
Thanks for watching!
Super Idea, big thanks to you Michael :)
I love the solution with the magnets to attach the adapter to the printer instead of taping or disassembling!
Sweet build
Great solution with the magnet fastenings!
The magnets were a nice touch on the application to the printer itself. Very nice!
Thank you! Cheers!
I was thinking rubber seals for around the lip of the printer mounts, and maybe a charcoal activated filter somewhere along your vent, but that may hinder getting fumes out of your space. Thanks, very informative video.
Great video. Thanks for the efforts.
Quick tip for CAD, try extruding the feature right where you want them instead of making a rectangle then moving it. It also allows changes to be made later on without having to re-do the entire model. Also, use the shell feature for parts like this.
Fusion 360 also lets you use parameters as dimension values. Then you can just change the parameters any time and it recalculates the features automatically.
Regarding your collision detection question. There is a simpler way to see that hidden area. If you are sliding in a panel from top to bottom on your fusion 360 display, click upper right menu "Inspection". From there click 'Section Analysis' in the drop down menu.
Now rotate your part a little and click on a wall/ surface on the right side of the main housing. Using the arrow, you will be able to view that panel moving down from the side, and when it bottoms out.
Thanks for the tip! I probably need to watch more Fusion videos. I know enough to get by.
The good news is, once you get good at parametric design this kind of change is literally seconds to change. Nice work bud!
I did something similar. But made to fit beside a window AC unit, and it also ties in with the exhaust from my airbrush booth. Used my Ender 3 FDM though. i don't like using resin for such large parts unless you need the detail/surface finish, too costly.
I've been doing a lot of research on VoCs produced by resin printers, youve got a great solution , but i wonder if an air quality meter would still pick up any residual VOCs from the other vents in the printer or if any fumes come out of those vents at all
Pretty slick
Pretty cool. I bought little filter ventilators from Anycubic for 23 dollars. You get 2 of them and they recharge battery on UBS. I am using ABS like resin, and I haven't really even noticed the smell or fumes from it, unless I get my face super near it. I have had more of an issue with the Alcohol. IPA, Denatured and E85 all make me dizzy, and or give me headaches, and contact high issues, so I have ventilated the hell out of the room and where a Paint Filter Respirator mask whilst performing the cleaning activities. That has fixed the problems.
Also I noticed that the video is over 2 years old and the advice is still relevant, but I do think that they have developed some resins that are way less fume producing than what was being used even 2 years ago. In fact Anycubic brags as a selling point that their resins are 65 to 80% less fumy than the competition/their older stock, The shelf life is 18 months to 2 years as compared to other companies/their older resins, etc.
I have some standard resin coming from them, so I can compare it to the ABS like resin from them when it gets here. Clever design on your unit there.
I just think I am going to put in the dryer vent with the bug screen, and run 4 in flex hose not to the machine directly but I might hose off the vent fans to the collection area.
IDK, at the moment. I might make a video about it. I have to get my camera mike working first. The last video I made about cleaning and printing I had to edit over on the other channel because my camera wasn't picking up the sound.
Good vid though, TY: th-cam.com/video/udyttBN1eV8/w-d-xo.html
Great video - came to this after watching your other video on Resin Handling tips. Looking for off the shelf solutions to venting and filtration, I find it odd that no hobbyist grade printers incorporate any sort of modular and/or heavy duty filtration or venting add ons. I know I'd be interested.
I think one of the Elegoo printers has built in filtration. I'll be checking out one of their printers in a video soon.
Kudos on the CAD, I don't have those skills
Awesome!!!! GJ~!
Absolutely awesome make! I could see using some liquid tape around the edge of the magnetic box just to create a bit of a gasket. But that's because I love finding any excuse to use liquid tape on every project haha
Haha. Never thought that it needed to be a tight seal.
@@Nerdtronic it probably doesn't haha but liquid tape!
use liquid rubber instead to make a 100% sealed connection so you are you gonna be sure that the voc arent escaping at all
Nice one
absolute madlad
Excellent design, setup and functionality of this system.. good work my friend.... I just wanted to put out there that SIRAYA Tech is producing awesome quality resins at amazing prices and truly have ultra Low Odor... I have printed some incredibly detailed strong and beautiful prints with it -and my faith in printing useful engineering quality components with a home SLA is restored. Thanks so much for this video.... I like this idea to vent the heat from my standard 3D printer enclosure when I print ABS :) PS. I am using grow tents for 3D printers now and ventilation is important for me and all these machines. So this may be my best alternative to cutting a hole in my ceiling (attic).
Thanks Again- Jeff
Cool. I'm using Siraya a lot now too.
really nice work! great design and explanations along the way. curious about the printer though? I have the Anycubic Photon S and really loving it. I just googled this printer and don't seem to be finding it for $1800 you mentioned? I would love a large format SLA printer like this! do you have any links to where you purchased from by chance? Thanks!
I got it on a Kickstarter which has ended: www.kickstarter.com/projects/phrozenmake/phrozen-transform-the-lcd-3d-printer-that-lets-you
It was 1699 plus extras so mine out the door was $1800 USD. Technically it isn't SLA. It's LCD which doesn't have a laser. Instead it uses an LCD panel to expose UV light to the entire slice at once.
Great Video :)
thumbs up for including mistakes
really nice mod
TIP: many times there is a set of arrows on the fan indicating the directions of the fan spin and air-flow.
good tip
Nerdtronic usually is sexy side pulls air in ugly side pushes air out.
+1👍 magnets 💪 could have ground down the screw lengths as well if not already mentioned
I like the montage music. I think that's "Rotate the beat about" by Georgia Esteban...
Must have been the influence. I license music from several places but not from actual 80s rockstars.
@Nerdtronic Re: Design. You mention that the fumes "just sit there," which implies (I think) that they are heavier than the surrounding air and therefore sink. You've also bored your exit pipe low in the wall, at, or even below table height (I think), and perhaps in order to remove them lower down because that demands less of your fans lifting or pulling them, in the case that your vents were higher up, perhaps even far overhead. So I conclude your print room is at ground level. Could you give advice to those of us who might be printing perhaps in a basement, or just in a half basement (halfway above ground)? Draw or push fumes up to a ceiling level vent, or take them out down low? As low as we can reasonably do anyway? Thx for any reply.
I'm just getting into resin printing and living in a climate with snow. So what I will need to do is design an air-to-air heat exchanger to swap out the fume-laden air with fresh but not vent all the heat in the Printer enclosure.
Hey there, Michael! Great design approach on your fume extraction system, as well as the video and editing! Are you still using this setup just as it’s displayed in this video? Also from one of the Valleys of the Sun.
That printer put resin fumes out those vents. A lot of the printers I’m using now don’t. So actually I’ve been printing in my office a lot this year. Although sometimes get complaints from the family about the smell - when I have the lid open or whatever. So that printer is still hooked up that way and it did help a lot. But don’t use that printer much at the moment.
Brilliant design and execution, but personally I wouldn't have glued the fan power connection into the baseplate so it could all be replaced easier if the fan failed...
If it failed I figured I’d cut the wire up a ways from the plug and crimp on a connector. And then do the same to the replacement fan. The plug wasn’t going to hold good enough in the case. Which is why I glued it.
Amazing stuff! Kutgw!
Great design. How is it working out for you? @ 5:50 for long, thin leading/trailing edges like this that are prone to warp, it's always best to add a continuous line of supports.
It's been working good. Honestly I hardly ever wear a mask in there any more. The resin fumes mostly get sucked out.
Any chance you could make a 2 1/2'' version of the Hose Adapter, trying to vent my ELEGOO Saturn, and all other venting makes on here are too large for my ender 3 v2 to print, this would be perfect if it was just a bit smaller, I'd just scale it but then the magnets wouldn't fit, current 4'' would just be too big for the Saturn.
I am looking forward to getting into 3d resin printing. So with this method the printer would not need to be inside an enclosure to keep the fumes from getting out into the work space? I would really appreciate any feedback on this. Thank you very much.
Have you had issues with long flat parts warping when printed at a 30 degree angle? I feel like my supports were sufficient but do you have to go like really overboard?
SirayaTech Fast Grey 70% + Siraya Tech Tenacious 30% will give you VERY durable parts. Its my go to mix for pretty much everything
Cool. I’ve been using Siraya Blu Clear with Monocure pigments added. Or 30% Blu plus the Phrozen resin.
Great video! But I just can’t let go of the fact that you installed the sheetrock vertically…
I know this is over a year old , , but if you ever remake this , don't epoxy the screen directly to the housing and the fan. instead put some wax paper between the screen pat and clamp it in place while the epoxy cures . when the epoxy is done , remove the screen part and the wax paper from it . you should now have a nice smooth perfect fit between the 2 and you can simply remove the fan to clean / wash the screen . Great stuff man, I have been FDM for years just getting to resin now myself.
Thanks for the advice.
I like. Keep going
Thank you, I will
@@Nerdtronic im new to this.I've just got the software photon work shop slicer. My computer is very slow when using this do you suggest any computer upgrades such as Ram or perhaps just going and getting a newer computer to run the software I'm also looking forward to using Fusion 360 to design programs to then be printed
I want to get into resin 3d printing but do not have a dedicated room for it, what are my best options?
I'm Asthmatic so i definitely can't smell these fumes for an extended period of time.
Is it enough to carbon filter the room air with a airfreshener instead of venting out the fumes?
Hi, I'm in an apartment and the only room with a vent is my bedroom and the windows won't open. I was thinking about getting a resin printer but I'm concerned about the fumes. Could this setup work out for me?
2 years later I want to know how this system holds up with 2, 4" holes exiting 1 smaller hole. Are the printers fans dead from the uneven pressure or still going strong?
Are you a resin only guy? Because FDM would have been great for these big low detail parts.
Does curing give off enough fumes to warrant its own hood? Or should I cure underwater? I have a grow tent with a carbon filter and fan that’s vented to outside for my printers but everything else (wash and cure, garbage) is all out in the open. My lungs and throat are killing me and I don’t know what to do
What respirator do you use?
Try repairing cracks with a little resin and s blue laser to cure it instantly.
Wow great video! What type of printer is this?
Phrozen Transform. It's a resin printer. LCD.
for around 5-6k you can get an ultimaker s5 that can do those prints first time, every time.
damn 0.25mm is just the same as my FDM.
i want an SLA for it's accuracy. but it seems like the accuracy is probably worse?!
Cool. Video. How is your 7 month review? Any effects on the printing?
I still love the transform. And the fumes are no problem now that the vent is in there. I don't wear a mask in my print room.
200-600 CFM would be ideal. Look into greenhouse fans
PS that's venting the room
I THINK (not positive) that you are removing non-resin air to the outside. I think those fans are cooling electronics in the lower part of the machine which is separate from the resin chamber. To remove resin fumes properly, you need a hole in the side of your machine, directly accessing the build chamber. I'm new to these machines, so I could be wrong.
What about the fumes from cleaning the print?
Have you run into longterm problems? Im not sure if its best to have your fresh air pulling from the same spot you vent... It seems like this would cause longterm issues...
what size screws did you use?
excellent project, thanks for sharing! I need to make something similar, but I have a quick question: are the resin vapours flammable? if so, I assume the electric motor must be brushless, right? are all PC fans brushless? thanks and keep the videos coming, you have a new happy subscriber!
My lawyer told me to say "read the resin data sheet" :) The IPA fumes are flamable but I don't think the resin fumes are.
the epoxy was likely overkill for sealing off the screen... simple tube of silicon would do just as good a job in this instance
I printed out the intake box that hon the printer what size is the hole suppose to be ?
If I remember right they're 4" holes. They fit the hose I was able to find at home depot or lowes.
Hm I dont get it yet. Most SLA Printer have Fans to cool the UV Lamps. Normally there is no Fan blowing Resin Fumes around. So I am not quite sure what this will help. I am rather thinking of building a Enclosure around the printer and venting this or doing a similar setup, like its used for kitchens or for airbrushing.
So my printer does have a vent inside the print chamber with a small filter in it. That connects down to where the electronics are. The filter doesn't do much. Most of the air can easily just go around it. And then it has fans that suck air in to the electronics portion of it and out of there. But yeah fumes do get sucked from inside the print chamber out the two out vents. When I added this vent system it got rid of most of the resin fumes in my print room. I can be in there now with no mask on without getting the headaches I was getting before.
What printer do you have?
Lol, I thought this was a big Lego piece at first 😂
a rubber gasket would solve some of the gap problem-and create a tighter seal
Good idea. I found some resin that would work to print a custom gasket like that. It's called F69 and I use it in the Cup Holder Robot video.
Wow I chose to use a fan for a Bouncy House to act as a fume extractor.... I think I have overkill in my design
In consideration of the neighbors' health, it would be better to look into carbon filters. Make some sort of casing and run the fumes through as many filters as needed until you can't smell anything coming out the other end. Then, instead of releasing fumes into the air, let them find their way to a landfill ensconced in a filter when the filter gets saturated.
Carbon filters eliminate odour, but not the VOCs.
@@daniellacasse7800 Is there anything that traps VOC's?
FDM print the parts. Use caulk instead of glue.
The noise is getting to me, wish there was a way o reduce the noise level.
I hear you can swap out the fans for quieter ones but have not attempted it yet.
@@Nerdtronic If u ever do, please make a video for it, would help a lot of Transform users, heard there needs to be a power conversion which is the tricky part, u should ask the people on the Transform group that attempted this.
What printer is that
It's the Phrozen Transform.
Nice
18k printer but no belt sander!?
Haha. Printer isn't 18k.. it's more like 1.8k. But I hope to be adding more tools eventually.
The vents in the base of your printer are for keeping the electronics and UV LEDs cool. The resin fumes do not exit from the vents. You wasted a lot of time and resin.
You are correct but he said it work for getting rid of the fumes too. So if it worked, I guess it was worth it.