Your robots have a much more chaotic energy though. That's something to be... proud of? Yeah, probably :) Great results and inspiring videos in any case!
That's no forgery, that's real art. Part of what we admire in art is the skill of the artist, and the medium which you've used, digital, robotic, technical... I mean, just the fact that you had to engineer a robot and go through part iterations, the fact that you wrote software, and the fact that you made the art digitally anyways... this was insanely impressive. Very well done!
@@atruceforbruce5388 Nothing right now. Roybot had to be disassembled for home repair reasons and for an upgrade. The next Roybot project is very different and looks more like a mathmatical graph. And then I'll work on some new original pieces. Email art@nerdtronic3d.com and ask to be put on a list to get art updates.
It IS a cheap comic book print. All of Roy's stuff is just a cheap copy of work he didn't create. He's a plagarist, not an artist. He wholesale stole the work of over 300 struggling artists.
@@CookieTube Orella isn't talking about Nerdtronic when they mention Roy being a plagiarist. They are talking about Roy Lichtenstein, the painter that Nerdtronic is stylistically reproducing. Lichtenstein was well known for reproducing the work of poorly paid comic book artists, without credit to the originators.
@@CookieTube He DID 1:1 copies though and sold under his own name without giving credit though. It's the same crap like Andy Warhol. Just because a rich person wants to evade taxes, doesn't mean it's art. Roybot just did show in a way how Roy did it, no millions involved. (:
Roy didn’t always use stencils. I don’t know if it is still in Guggenheim, but there was a huge painting there of a living room and you, up close, could see the strokes of a painting brush.
I have a (much smaller) pen plotter robot. I've always wanted to fully automate the process such that somebody could request a commission online and immediately see a live stream of their print in progress. Would be cool to see you tackle this challenge!
I think, by tackling the problems the original artist may have faced, your own way, you (and Roybot!) created your own art form! And the outcome is spectacular!
This would be cool in an Art gallery where THE ROBOT IS THE ART PIECE, but it also makes art. If you could figure out a way to have a hopper of pens and make it self load and unload the pens, that would be epic. Great work, and dedication, this project is truly a work of art in itself.
Seriously! I think the last 6 months has been working non stop on this project. Except for the 6 weeks I was out with covid. I think I can paint the next piece same size in about 2-3 weeks. After I redesign the print head of course. Thanks for watching.
@@Nerdtronic Dude, this is something you can easily make side living of! Fine tune the software, sprinkle some AI in it to generate images, et voila, big canvas sized AI/robot generated art to sell for big (but reasonable) prices! .... Me jealous
@@CookieTube If he thinks it could take 2-3 weeks to do a piece the same size, now that he has one under his belt, it will take about half a year to finish an entire wall mural. You can't really make money like that, unless it's part of a display or show, like at a gallery or museum, which I do admit would be cool. He would need to rethink his rig in several different ways before it could crank out murals and make some decent money, i'm guessing. It is a cool thing though, not knocking it.
Next step is writing a software that generates the robot's path. To begin, make it so that you are able to feed a single layer of paint, and choose a stroke direction and type. The softwate will then fill that layer with lines or dots and generate a path. After a few iterations, the final software should be able to accept either single colored layers or any image with a set pallet of colors, and slice it up.
Maybe. I think part of the art part of it is designing the toolpath so that it looks like paint strokes and not all vertical lines. Thanks for the suggestion and thanks for watching.
I'd think a useful first iteration would be to detect outlines, convert those into tool lines and then remove that area from the input. Rinse and repeat. As a second step, remembering the ends of paths and then trying to align the starts of paths of the next iteration with those, so the pen does not need to be lifted by can just move over one stroke width, might be nice. This kind of paint looks like it can take a bit of double-covering without it showing up.
@@HenryLoenwind Seeing the paint strokes is part of the attraction (or you can otherwise just order a big digital screen printing on vinyl). At least, if that is your taste. Both ways can equally be very attractive. Compare it to all the different and literally unlimited ways you can use to convert a photo in photoshop in all kinds of simulated painting styles. Each their own I'd say.
Money aside, I'd rather have your work of art than the original! Amazing commitment to making this work. Wow! I've got a one ton cnc machine in my garage and can appreciate the level of tinkering this requires, having gone through a bit myself. Good job finishing it!
What an amazing project! And as always the video production is just perfect. Very entertaining to watch. Your content deserves a lot more viewers to appreciate it. Hope you get them soon!
@@Nerdtronic And on top of a nice painting or graphic, you make a very well recorded and edited vid. I suspect you’ll scrap version 1 and version 2 will address a lot of nagging things, things that annoy only you. Like the pens. And speed and XY registration.
Can I just say that your visualization is greatly appreciated. From those subtle text shadows to those 1 to 1 model renders, your visual language is a perfect matrimony of oral communication and visual storytelling. I’m not even into 3d printing but I follow along because of how meticulously presented your videos are. Know that you are appreciated.
Thanks! I am back. Trying to drag my channel in a new direction and do more stuff like this. It takes me 3 weeks just to edit a video like this. So my goal is to do a video about once every 4 to 6 weeks.
So, a few comments, observations: A. This is amazing, and you are amazing. I love it. B. You basically built a vertical 3D printer, but without the extruder and heating elements, and with custom motors? As such, I probably would have went the route of trying to make it work with conventional 3D printer software. Imagine if you used Klipper, configured the stops of the new motors, and set up the "pen in/out" mechanism to work with the extruder code. Then, all you'd have to do to create this kind of art is split your image into multiple layers with the shapes to print, then feed the flat image into some kind of CAD software to extrude it into a one-layer shape that you drop into a slicer and print. It would save you a ton of time having to manually create all the paths in illustrator, as well as have saved you the headaches of trying to get the paths to trace right. Still an incredible teaching video and overall process...but if you wanted to supercharge it and make it easier to make more art - this could be how. ;)
would love to see an episode covering the electronics and software design in more detail. Ie - what you coded with, what was used for the controller, etc.
I'll think about it. Meanwhile - The hardware is a raspberry pi using the serial pins on the gpio. That is connectd to a serial to can bus module and then to the motors. The motors are 48 volts but the one on the paint head is 24 volts so I have a converter. The software was written in xojo on a mac and it can compile a debug version on to the pi. I never made an actual executable I just always run it in debug mode. The print file format is basically svg but slightly modified.
@@Nerdtronic well, if you decide to make a video, I will certainly be excited to watch it. The amount you shared helps me understand what you did which is what I was after lol
And for the upgrades: You already have stable slides, you can very simply put a linear optical encoder on them for positioning. This would also allow you to use a simpler target-feedback positioning logic. (Calculate the intended path and timing. X times per second, check the actual current position and the intended position 1/(X+A) seconds later and feed the difference into the motor. That way, you can use the motor's automatic mode; the A value ensures the motor never reaches its target and stops as it always gets a new movement command before that.)
Just found the channel and I'm baffled about the small amount of subscribers you have, it needs more! Your content is amazing keep up the good work love the painting
This is an immense amount of work for 1 person, not only designing, printing and assembling the robot, but also making actual art with that whole document recording the whole process. Big thumbs up, that’s fantastic!
That painting is amazing on its own right, and it should definitely be displayed in a suitable gallery. Your work is impressive, both the technical and the artistic aspects!
Wow this is fantastic! And here I wondered why there were so few videos over the past months, then you come out with this absolute gem. Stunning work, both artistically and from an engineering perspective. Great stuff :)
Wow, thank you! It was one of the reasons it's been a while since I released a video. Also some family/house projects that I didn't do videos on, plus being out of commission for about 6 weeks with covid.
We need more people working hard to pop the ridiculous high-end $$$ Art Bubble. I know you would never do fakes and forgeries but thanks for showing how it could be done.
Some of the high-auctions are definitely ridiculous. But why the animus? If it gets people interested in art and the market interested in finding the next new artists, why do you want to "pop" that? That's a very small insecure perspective.
Above all I'm amazed you got the funds to do this. I've been doing DIY plotters since 2018 but I never got around to amassing the funds to build anything bigger than A0. When people started copying my artworks via instagram I had to close down all of my social media as those copycats without any talent were better at selling than me. It's been over half a year since I quit making plotter artworks but started working on a new project two weeks ago and I gotta say, the itch is still there. It was nice seeing your explorations, I came across many of the same issues, such as the pen ink feeds, and drilling them out which works really well. I work with high-flow acrylic inks which are a lot harder to control (drilling the caps means they tend to leak all over the place), but they have a nice fast flow if you're into speed. That's the main thing where our machines differ, mine are super fast and have zero backlash, but they can't go bigger than A0 and I didn't have the funds to get decent extrusions, so the frame is quite vulnerable. I'm currently working on a special design to minimize some motion artifacts and I think that's probably the most important step for you as well if you want to go faster. I'm also 100% sure that the backlash is coming from the inside of your motors. I know you got sponsored for the motors, but I really want to suggest using stepper or servo motors. Trust me, 0.9 degree per step motors are fine, you could even use a belt to increase the resolution further. And if you use closed loop motors you can do anything you want without complex movement planning. It looked as if you were using a Duet board, I'm not sure but it looked like that. If you are, that's great because Duet has expansion boards with which you can run closed loop stepper motors without problems. Anyway, a joy to watch your video, and it's good you also show your failures. I tried to get some sponsoring from pen companies etc with my 2k follower instagram back in the days and I managed to get was €100 worth of pens. I am very grateful with this but realistically it's not enough to sustain this on the long term. Do you have any advice for me how I can get better sponsorship deals with companies? Do they care more about exposure or are they also in a way showing goodwill when it comes to helping out artists that are not able to fund their practice even though they make unique quality projects with what little they have?
Sounds like you've had some fun. I'll be doing other types of plotter art with this as well. The other day I bought about 10 more very large canvases. But I'm going to fix the problems before starting the next painting.
@@Nerdtronic honestly keep going with these videos, the skill set you have + the want for these types of videos will get you so many views. Exactly what I've been looking for yt wise!
That's wonderful. I think the artists concepts being perfectly replicated by Roybot is a brilliant idea. Damien Hirst works out concepts and leaves paid employees to carry out the work so Roybot is just doing the same thing.
I have a CNC plasma cutting table that I’ve also added a sharpie holder to for funsies, but your painting is AWESOME!!! Subbed because of how fricken cool that painting looks! Great job to the both of you!
The machine was off by 2 mm, but hey - at least you had a resolution of 0.18 µm. 😂 Sounds like maybe the actuator was not completely necessary and a simple stepper would have done fine as well. Anyway - great work overall, and yes, I am impressed - thanks for sharing! I would recommend you use linear magnetic encoders for position feedback. That stuff is similar to what is used in digital calipers and is available relatively cheap even for huge machines like yours (well, at least the chinese stuff). Needs some skills to implement, but there's no doubt YOU can. Precision is 5 µm - so still way more than enough for drawings.🙂 But of course this would not prevent the head from sagging...
@@Nerdtronic Thanks for the answer, but sorry - there's a misunderstanding. Don't get me wrong: The Roybot including the software is a master piece and you can be very proud of it. And the actuators are fantastic devices - there is absolutely no doubt! But the built in encoder has absolutely NO clue of the head position. It ONLY knows about the motor itself. But the motor is just one part of the positioning system. The complete belt system including the pulleys plays a much bigger role. A linear magnetic encoder would completely remove issues due to belt and pulley accuracy, belt tension, including change of belt tension over time, plus backlash and even some issues due to temperature changes over such long periods of continous use. An alternative would be a refernce point to check (for example using a hall sensor) every know and then. But relying on a belt + pulley for accuracy is just not working well (as you have seen).
I see. Well assuming that nothing slips the motor returns an absolute position in the form of a multi-rotation angle, which simple math turns it into a position on the wall in mm (execpt for backlash). I said as long as nothing slips. Once when toward the end of the black pass I made a mistake and had the pen mech down when it was off canvas, then put a pen in and told it to draw something without raising the pen first. It was going to crash the pen into the side of the canvas. I went to quickly unscrew the thumbscrew and take the pen out and in trying to prevent it from ripping the paintng off the wall I caused the motor to slip in the gear and then the registration was lost. I was able to recalibrate it close enough to continue. I think the backlash will go away if I tension the belt tighter. But I'm also going to make a gear rack and try that.
@@Nerdtronic Thanks for the detailed insight. Well, accidents like those just happen. What I was trying to say is that even with perfect rotary encoder feedback and perfect calculation there will always be a delta between the computed and the real position. This could be eliminated by linear encoders. But I don't want to bother you with that any longer. One additional idea: Maybe you can compensate at least belt (tension) issues by using two reference points on each axis - one near each end. You can then measure the motor steps in between. The value should in theory always be the same, but over time it will not be the same in practice. I think higher belt tension might lower but never eliminate backlash. But maybe you can get it low enough for the purpose (i.e. to maybe 20% of the pen stroke width).
I’m so happy that TH-cam decided to lead me to your channel. This really is incredible, what you created here. RoyBot has a kingly name and it is fitting! Would this have been easier to do if the robot was oriented in the same direction as gravity, i.e. painting with the canvas laying on the floor?
Probably. But would take up a lot more space since it's 13x9 feet. Originally it was going to be a wall mural painting robot but then I decided to focus on the canvas.
This could be fun to combine with something like StableDiffusion. I've lost count of the amount of times I've generated an image only to think "Man this'd look great on my wall". There'd still be a bunch of human work involved (dividing the image into layers, all the pen replacement etc), but it'd be fun to see an almost entirely "machine generated" painting, with an AI generating the original design, and a robot making a real world painting of it.
Wow thanks. It’s so custom that I don’t think I will. The software was written in xojo which most people haven’t heard of. It’s pretty hacked together.
@@Nerdtronic It would be great to take a look at some of the code just to see how you handle the motion, and I’m sure some people would be willing to help clean it up a bit! Have you thought about using Bézier curves to generate the trajectories rather than segmenting curves? Or is the segment length just so small that it doesn’t make any difference?
13:55 I would just call that art imitating life imitating art imitating life! Roy based his artwork on printed illustrations where slight misalignments like that are common, he hand painted his artwork and now you’re copying his hand painted art with a computer controlled system that has simultaneously flawlessly reproduced the image as well as introduce a flaw akin to the original inspiration.
Haha yeah. I noticed that some of his dots weren't all that great either. Some of mine are more oblong than round near the top. I think it was caused because the canvas is a flexible cloth surface.
@@Nerdtronicit would be interesting to see other ways you could use this robot, beyond replicating existing works. One thought I had would be giant string art- you that thing where people use string as straight lines to create images. I wonder if you could do something similar only using the paint pens or permanent markers instead of string. I mean the whole point of using the string on a small scale is to create a straight line, but using your robot it would be easy to create a straight line with a pen. I’ve seen another YTr try to recreate string are using a CNC machine like yours, but all I could think is “why is he using string? Much easy to use a pen?”.
To be fair, Roy Lichtenstein stole all of his famous painting from comic artists so even if you had copied one of his paintings it would have probably been totally fair. There's blogs online documenting all of the instances of stolen art. The idea that he somehow "elevated" the art by printing it on a canvas is insulting to the artists who originally created these works. Look up "drowning girl" to see how badly he copies and comes out looking like the less talented artist.
You pulled it off 100 %. Absolutely perfect. Even the imperfections due to pen holder sagging added a bit of realism and similarity to cartoon inaccuracies.
This is really awesome! The painting looks great! Fantastic job by Roybot and you!! I would love to see Roybot do more Lichtenstein inspired paintings in the future.
Welcome BACK!!!! Amazing job and really nice 3d rendered graphics of your mechanical designs throughout this video. That's no easy task either. Great work all around!
This robot painting the art would be an amazing art piece. Feed it AI images in the style of famous painters and you already have a very solid concept. It says alot about the world we live in and the fear of AI and robots taking over the creative industry. You could sell this to any gallery. People would watch this thing paint for hours in a museum.
If you fill up a glass with water and turn it sideways... gravity is still helping move the paint out of the pen. The little sponge and the nib are also helping wick it out.
Would love to see Roybot with a “tool picker”, to automate pens swaps, maybe with a camera too. Maybe laying the gantry flat would also help ink flow. But what an awesome result to a brilliant idea!
Thanks. Flat wouldn't have helped ink flow because of that valve in the pen. The nib of the pen is bone dry when you open it the first time even though it's been shaken around in all directions during shipping. It might have actually flowed too much after modifiction if it was vertical. I mounted a camera on there but it was just too close up.
Amazing! Thanks for video. I argued for years a system like yours could be used to paint all manners of murals. But was told it was too complicated to make it worth while.
I like to think that extremely talented/smart people like nerdtronics and stuffmadehere have always existed but nowadays there's a platform to showcase their talents.
I'm Gobsmacked! What an Amazing Project and Superb Video!! Plus, you Answered several questions for me on a Project I have been working on with Stepper Motors!!! 🎉
There was a day when I almost ruined the painting 3 times. Once the pen almost crashed into the side of the painting which would have either ripped the painting off the wall or broke the pen spraying paint everywhere. I physicaly held the pen from doing that while I was unscrewing it and it slipped in the belt, kicking it out of registration. Later that same day I realized that the pen was leaking paint and somehow it only ended up all over my hands and didn't drip on the painting. Unfortunately I didn't get any of that on camera.
This is the most impressive project I've ever seen, it's not even close. Seriously impressive, really great work and a blast to watch (jaw dropped the whole time). Damn.
My wife said your robot makes better paintings than mine - and she’s right - very nice result!
Haha tell her thanks. I’ll send you guys an original Roybot painting soon.
Your robots have a much more chaotic energy though. That's something to be... proud of? Yeah, probably :) Great results and inspiring videos in any case!
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I would love to see you both collaborate on a build!!
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That's no forgery, that's real art. Part of what we admire in art is the skill of the artist, and the medium which you've used, digital, robotic, technical... I mean, just the fact that you had to engineer a robot and go through part iterations, the fact that you wrote software, and the fact that you made the art digitally anyways... this was insanely impressive. Very well done!
Wow thanks. It was a fun and fulfilling project.
@@Nerdtronic how much you wanna sell me that robot made painting for?
Ha this original is not for sale. But other original paintings by Roybot start at about 5 grand.
@@Nerdtronic got a catalog? I'm curiously wondering what "other" robot paintings are avaliable.
@@atruceforbruce5388 Nothing right now. Roybot had to be disassembled for home repair reasons and for an upgrade. The next Roybot project is very different and looks more like a mathmatical graph. And then I'll work on some new original pieces. Email art@nerdtronic3d.com and ask to be put on a list to get art updates.
I kinda liked the white gaps on the black lines, because it made it look more realistic. Like an actual cheap comic book print.
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It IS a cheap comic book print. All of Roy's stuff is just a cheap copy of work he didn't create. He's a plagarist, not an artist. He wholesale stole the work of over 300 struggling artists.
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@@CookieTube Orella isn't talking about Nerdtronic when they mention Roy being a plagiarist. They are talking about Roy Lichtenstein, the painter that Nerdtronic is stylistically reproducing. Lichtenstein was well known for reproducing the work of poorly paid comic book artists, without credit to the originators.
@@CookieTube He DID 1:1 copies though and sold under his own name without giving credit though. It's the same crap like Andy Warhol. Just because a rich person wants to evade taxes, doesn't mean it's art. Roybot just did show in a way how Roy did it, no millions involved. (:
As a nerd and an art fan I really appreciate this in so many different ways. You should be really proud of that painting.
Wow thanks. I have to say that I am. Will be making more paintings soon.
Lichtenstein just used stencils for the dots. So your version is technically more impressive how it was made. It is a great project.
Thanks!
Roy didn’t always use stencils. I don’t know if it is still in Guggenheim, but there was a huge painting there of a living room and you, up close, could see the strokes of a painting brush.
I have a (much smaller) pen plotter robot. I've always wanted to fully automate the process such that somebody could request a commission online and immediately see a live stream of their print in progress. Would be cool to see you tackle this challenge!
hmm... that could be a real neat way to do it if tool changes (pen swaps) were added to the machine.
@@zerumsum1640 yup! i can't find the link rn but somewhere someone made a pen carousel attachment that would rotate to select a pen
I think, by tackling the problems the original artist may have faced, your own way, you (and Roybot!) created your own art form! And the outcome is spectacular!
Thanks!
This would be cool in an Art gallery where THE ROBOT IS THE ART PIECE, but it also makes art. If you could figure out a way to have a hopper of pens and make it self load and unload the pens, that would be epic. Great work, and dedication, this project is truly a work of art in itself.
A local gallery is intersted in doing this as an art installtion but I want to wait until there is more art to showcase.
Awesome project! I love things like that and the painting looks great.
Why spend a week painting something when you can spend a year automating it ;)
Seriously! I think the last 6 months has been working non stop on this project. Except for the 6 weeks I was out with covid. I think I can paint the next piece same size in about 2-3 weeks. After I redesign the print head of course. Thanks for watching.
@@Nerdtronic Dude, this is something you can easily make side living of! Fine tune the software, sprinkle some AI in it to generate images, et voila, big canvas sized AI/robot generated art to sell for big (but reasonable) prices! .... Me jealous
@@CookieTube If he thinks it could take 2-3 weeks to do a piece the same size, now that he has one under his belt, it will take about half a year to finish an entire wall mural. You can't really make money like that, unless it's part of a display or show, like at a gallery or museum, which I do admit would be cool. He would need to rethink his rig in several different ways before it could crank out murals and make some decent money, i'm guessing. It is a cool thing though, not knocking it.
@mikemulligan5731 I don't know. One 42 million dollar piece and your can live pretty well for the rest of your life.
@@ThatOpalGuy Art doesn't work like that. You can't copy something and sell it for 42 mil there are a lot of factors that go into that made up price.
Next step is writing a software that generates the robot's path. To begin, make it so that you are able to feed a single layer of paint, and choose a stroke direction and type. The softwate will then fill that layer with lines or dots and generate a path.
After a few iterations, the final software should be able to accept either single colored layers or any image with a set pallet of colors, and slice it up.
Maybe. I think part of the art part of it is designing the toolpath so that it looks like paint strokes and not all vertical lines. Thanks for the suggestion and thanks for watching.
I'd think a useful first iteration would be to detect outlines, convert those into tool lines and then remove that area from the input. Rinse and repeat. As a second step, remembering the ends of paths and then trying to align the starts of paths of the next iteration with those, so the pen does not need to be lifted by can just move over one stroke width, might be nice. This kind of paint looks like it can take a bit of double-covering without it showing up.
@@HenryLoenwind Seeing the paint strokes is part of the attraction (or you can otherwise just order a big digital screen printing on vinyl). At least, if that is your taste. Both ways can equally be very attractive. Compare it to all the different and literally unlimited ways you can use to convert a photo in photoshop in all kinds of simulated painting styles. Each their own I'd say.
Unbelievably high production quality and you conquered every challenge in your way until it was done! I'll show this to my students for inspiration.
Thanks! Hope they enjoy it.
Money aside, I'd rather have your work of art than the original!
Amazing commitment to making this work. Wow!
I've got a one ton cnc machine in my garage and can appreciate the level of tinkering this requires, having gone through a bit myself. Good job finishing it!
Thanks. Well "Not Over The Phone" is my artwork. I used the robot as a tool to paint it. Thanks again for recognizing the hard work!
You did a really cool work making that robot.
The art looks amazing even with those little gaps.
What an amazing project! And as always the video production is just perfect. Very entertaining to watch. Your content deserves a lot more viewers to appreciate it. Hope you get them soon!
Thank you very much! I hope I get them soon too. View count is pretty depressing at the moment.
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And on top of a nice painting or graphic, you make a very well recorded and edited vid.
I suspect you’ll scrap version 1 and version 2 will address a lot of nagging things, things that annoy only you. Like the pens. And speed and XY registration.
Can I just say that your visualization is greatly appreciated. From those subtle text shadows to those 1 to 1 model renders, your visual language is a perfect matrimony of oral communication and visual storytelling. I’m not even into 3d printing but I follow along because of how meticulously presented your videos are. Know that you are appreciated.
Wow thanks Jason.
So glad to see you are back on youtube!!! I've missed the content. Hope you keep uploading!
Thanks! I am back. Trying to drag my channel in a new direction and do more stuff like this. It takes me 3 weeks just to edit a video like this. So my goal is to do a video about once every 4 to 6 weeks.
@@Nerdtronic I'm all for this new kind of content! So many more opportunities. 1 vid every 6 weeks is a heck of a lot better than 1 vid a year!!!
@@marcuspagel Ha True. Hopefully I can make that. Would you believe I've lost more subscribers than I've gained so far today on this video?
So, a few comments, observations:
A. This is amazing, and you are amazing. I love it.
B. You basically built a vertical 3D printer, but without the extruder and heating elements, and with custom motors?
As such, I probably would have went the route of trying to make it work with conventional 3D printer software. Imagine if you used Klipper, configured the stops of the new motors, and set up the "pen in/out" mechanism to work with the extruder code.
Then, all you'd have to do to create this kind of art is split your image into multiple layers with the shapes to print, then feed the flat image into some kind of CAD software to extrude it into a one-layer shape that you drop into a slicer and print.
It would save you a ton of time having to manually create all the paths in illustrator, as well as have saved you the headaches of trying to get the paths to trace right.
Still an incredible teaching video and overall process...but if you wanted to supercharge it and make it easier to make more art - this could be how. ;)
Thanks. Creating tool paths is part of the art. It's not visible on video but you can see some of the paint strokes.
dude. the effort. i was literally waiting for you to deal with paint flow and you nailed it.
Welcome back! That is an incredible project. I love seeing engineering used for stuff like this
Thanks!
This was absolutely insane. My god.
Massive props for putting the insane amount of effort in to make Roybot!!
Thanks. It was fun.
Lichtenstein is one of my favorites! This looks so similar to what I've seen in the met, so incredibly precise - it's almost TOO good!
Right? 😁 Thanks!
Didn't he plagiarized lots of his work?
The way I just kept saying "nice" as I watched this video 😭😭😭 so goooooood!!!!!!
Wow thanks!
You're actually a genius. Such a beautiful painting!
as a fan of both weird art AND cool robots, this is awesome! sometimes being lazy is more impressive than doing things manually
would love to see an episode covering the electronics and software design in more detail. Ie - what you coded with, what was used for the controller, etc.
I'll think about it. Meanwhile - The hardware is a raspberry pi using the serial pins on the gpio. That is connectd to a serial to can bus module and then to the motors. The motors are 48 volts but the one on the paint head is 24 volts so I have a converter. The software was written in xojo on a mac and it can compile a debug version on to the pi. I never made an actual executable I just always run it in debug mode. The print file format is basically svg but slightly modified.
@@Nerdtronic well, if you decide to make a video, I will certainly be excited to watch it. The amount you shared helps me understand what you did which is what I was after lol
Not only it goes to the point but the way it also showcases the challenges and problem silving along tge way is fantastic, thats a sub.
Wow thanks!
Whoaaa now that's a comeback video amazing content
Wow thanks. I'm starting on my next video on monday. So it won't be another year. 🤣
The gap is cool, looked like a missed print common in comics. It's a features !
Wow!
And for the upgrades: You already have stable slides, you can very simply put a linear optical encoder on them for positioning. This would also allow you to use a simpler target-feedback positioning logic. (Calculate the intended path and timing. X times per second, check the actual current position and the intended position 1/(X+A) seconds later and feed the difference into the motor. That way, you can use the motor's automatic mode; the A value ensures the motor never reaches its target and stops as it always gets a new movement command before that.)
Just found the channel and I'm baffled about the small amount of subscribers you have, it needs more! Your content is amazing keep up the good work love the painting
Thanks.
When you find out how simple the original was done, you'll kick yourself
Search for Mike Everman's servo -belt system, which uses a second belt section stuck to the frame as a rack for the drive belt
I'll check it out. Thanks
This is an immense amount of work for 1 person, not only designing, printing and assembling the robot, but also making actual art with that whole document recording the whole process. Big thumbs up, that’s fantastic!
Wow thanks. More to come.
That painting is amazing on its own right, and it should definitely be displayed in a suitable gallery. Your work is impressive, both the technical and the artistic aspects!
Wow thanks!
Wow this is fantastic! And here I wondered why there were so few videos over the past months, then you come out with this absolute gem. Stunning work, both artistically and from an engineering perspective. Great stuff :)
Wow, thank you! It was one of the reasons it's been a while since I released a video. Also some family/house projects that I didn't do videos on, plus being out of commission for about 6 weeks with covid.
We need more people working hard to pop the ridiculous high-end $$$ Art Bubble. I know you would never do fakes and forgeries but thanks for showing how it could be done.
Thanks - yeah I wouldn't recreate a real Lichtenstein. But strangely enough I think my Roybot art prints cost more than an actual Lichtenstein print.
Some of the high-auctions are definitely ridiculous. But why the animus? If it gets people interested in art and the market interested in finding the next new artists, why do you want to "pop" that? That's a very small insecure perspective.
i assumed the whole thing was just a money laundering front
Above all I'm amazed you got the funds to do this. I've been doing DIY plotters since 2018 but I never got around to amassing the funds to build anything bigger than A0. When people started copying my artworks via instagram I had to close down all of my social media as those copycats without any talent were better at selling than me. It's been over half a year since I quit making plotter artworks but started working on a new project two weeks ago and I gotta say, the itch is still there.
It was nice seeing your explorations, I came across many of the same issues, such as the pen ink feeds, and drilling them out which works really well. I work with high-flow acrylic inks which are a lot harder to control (drilling the caps means they tend to leak all over the place), but they have a nice fast flow if you're into speed. That's the main thing where our machines differ, mine are super fast and have zero backlash, but they can't go bigger than A0 and I didn't have the funds to get decent extrusions, so the frame is quite vulnerable.
I'm currently working on a special design to minimize some motion artifacts and I think that's probably the most important step for you as well if you want to go faster. I'm also 100% sure that the backlash is coming from the inside of your motors. I know you got sponsored for the motors, but I really want to suggest using stepper or servo motors. Trust me, 0.9 degree per step motors are fine, you could even use a belt to increase the resolution further. And if you use closed loop motors you can do anything you want without complex movement planning. It looked as if you were using a Duet board, I'm not sure but it looked like that. If you are, that's great because Duet has expansion boards with which you can run closed loop stepper motors without problems.
Anyway, a joy to watch your video, and it's good you also show your failures. I tried to get some sponsoring from pen companies etc with my 2k follower instagram back in the days and I managed to get was €100 worth of pens. I am very grateful with this but realistically it's not enough to sustain this on the long term. Do you have any advice for me how I can get better sponsorship deals with companies? Do they care more about exposure or are they also in a way showing goodwill when it comes to helping out artists that are not able to fund their practice even though they make unique quality projects with what little they have?
Sounds like you've had some fun. I'll be doing other types of plotter art with this as well. The other day I bought about 10 more very large canvases. But I'm going to fix the problems before starting the next painting.
Some premium content right there👍
Thanks. Hope to make more!
Wow, this is wild! Can't wait to see what you do next, hope to see more of RoyBot.
Thanks. I have another art robot project coming. It's much smaller. And you'll see more of roybot.
You're a real renaissance man. That being said, you're expert level at anything you apply yourself to.
Wow thanks.
The quality of this video is crazy good, from the animations to commentary, geez man
Wow thanks!
@@Nerdtronic honestly keep going with these videos, the skill set you have + the want for these types of videos will get you so many views. Exactly what I've been looking for yt wise!
I've owned Lichtenstein prints. This was such a treat. You took 7 weeks. Old Roy probably took the same time. Amazing.
Haha. Thanks.
I cannot imagine how he got his paintings to be so consistent. He must have invented some tools to help him step the dots properly.
@@dgillies5420 you would be surprised at what a steady hand can accomplish
@@dgillies5420 For some of them he used a stencil and a toothbrush to push the paint into the canvas.
I think my prints might be more expensive than a Lichtenstein print. 😂🤣
The painting came out fantastic but what is truly amazing here is your knowledge and skill in all the tech! Amazing work!
That's wonderful. I think the artists concepts being perfectly replicated by Roybot is a brilliant idea. Damien Hirst works out concepts and leaves paid employees to carry out the work so Roybot is just doing the same thing.
Thanks. Yes I think if Roy was sitll around he'd enjoy this project. He used a stencil to get his dots aligned. I used motors and software.
In 1996, my high-school computer lab had a plotter. This seems like a fancier version of that. Still very excellent project and outcome.
Yeah it’s a large plotter. But originally I designed it to paint on a wall. Thanks for watching!
@Nerdtronic kudos on your hard work, problem solving, and for building on the conversations of fine reproductions of pop culture.
I have a CNC plasma cutting table that I’ve also added a sharpie holder to for funsies, but your painting is AWESOME!!! Subbed because of how fricken cool that painting looks! Great job to the both of you!
Awesome! Thank you!
You and Roybot defiitely hit the mark, even given the drift in registration when painting the black.
Thanks
The machine was off by 2 mm, but hey - at least you had a resolution of 0.18 µm. 😂 Sounds like maybe the actuator was not completely necessary and a simple stepper would have done fine as well. Anyway - great work overall, and yes, I am impressed - thanks for sharing! I would recommend you use linear magnetic encoders for position feedback. That stuff is similar to what is used in digital calipers and is available relatively cheap even for huge machines like yours (well, at least the chinese stuff). Needs some skills to implement, but there's no doubt YOU can. Precision is 5 µm - so still way more than enough for drawings.🙂 But of course this would not prevent the head from sagging...
Thanks for the comments. The motors have the encoders built in. So I can just ask them what position they're in and they send that info back.
@@Nerdtronic Thanks for the answer, but sorry - there's a misunderstanding. Don't get me wrong: The Roybot including the software is a master piece and you can be very proud of it. And the actuators are fantastic devices - there is absolutely no doubt! But the built in encoder has absolutely NO clue of the head position. It ONLY knows about the motor itself. But the motor is just one part of the positioning system. The complete belt system including the pulleys plays a much bigger role. A linear magnetic encoder would completely remove issues due to belt and pulley accuracy, belt tension, including change of belt tension over time, plus backlash and even some issues due to temperature changes over such long periods of continous use. An alternative would be a refernce point to check (for example using a hall sensor) every know and then. But relying on a belt + pulley for accuracy is just not working well (as you have seen).
I see. Well assuming that nothing slips the motor returns an absolute position in the form of a multi-rotation angle, which simple math turns it into a position on the wall in mm (execpt for backlash). I said as long as nothing slips. Once when toward the end of the black pass I made a mistake and had the pen mech down when it was off canvas, then put a pen in and told it to draw something without raising the pen first. It was going to crash the pen into the side of the canvas. I went to quickly unscrew the thumbscrew and take the pen out and in trying to prevent it from ripping the paintng off the wall I caused the motor to slip in the gear and then the registration was lost. I was able to recalibrate it close enough to continue.
I think the backlash will go away if I tension the belt tighter. But I'm also going to make a gear rack and try that.
@@Nerdtronic Thanks for the detailed insight. Well, accidents like those just happen.
What I was trying to say is that even with perfect rotary encoder feedback and perfect calculation there will always be a delta between the computed and the real position. This could be eliminated by linear encoders. But I don't want to bother you with that any longer.
One additional idea: Maybe you can compensate at least belt (tension) issues by using two reference points on each axis - one near each end. You can then measure the motor steps in between. The value should in theory always be the same, but over time it will not be the same in practice.
I think higher belt tension might lower but never eliminate backlash. But maybe you can get it low enough for the purpose (i.e. to maybe 20% of the pen stroke width).
This is extremely impressive. Well done! Please keep the videos coming!
I'm finally back working on videos again and an update to Roybot.
Looks like lichtenstein to me
Right? Thanks!
What a beautiful channel! The design, construction, music, edition, absolutely brilliant
I’m so happy that TH-cam decided to lead me to your channel. This really is incredible, what you created here. RoyBot has a kingly name and it is fitting!
Would this have been easier to do if the robot was oriented in the same direction as gravity, i.e. painting with the canvas laying on the floor?
Probably. But would take up a lot more space since it's 13x9 feet. Originally it was going to be a wall mural painting robot but then I decided to focus on the canvas.
@@Nerdtronic Good call, it's amazing what you did and what your RoyBot can produce!
The fact that this has less than 20k views is criminal. Get off your ass TH-cam algorithm! This is gold.
Yeah youtube.. what's up? 🤣 Thanks for watching.
This could be fun to combine with something like StableDiffusion. I've lost count of the amount of times I've generated an image only to think "Man this'd look great on my wall". There'd still be a bunch of human work involved (dividing the image into layers, all the pen replacement etc), but it'd be fun to see an almost entirely "machine generated" painting, with an AI generating the original design, and a robot making a real world painting of it.
I'm a big fan of Lichtenstein's work and tech, the 2 combined truly is amazing. Very impressive and great job!
Cool thanks!
Such a cool project! Can't wait to see what it paints next! Are you going to open source any of the design or software?
Wow thanks. It’s so custom that I don’t think I will. The software was written in xojo which most people haven’t heard of. It’s pretty hacked together.
@@Nerdtronic It would be great to take a look at some of the code just to see how you handle the motion, and I’m sure some people would be willing to help clean it up a bit!
Have you thought about using Bézier curves to generate the trajectories rather than segmenting curves? Or is the segment length just so small that it doesn’t make any difference?
What an amazing art piece, and the machine being part of it makes it even better. Amazing.
Thanks
13:55 I would just call that art imitating life imitating art imitating life! Roy based his artwork on printed illustrations where slight misalignments like that are common, he hand painted his artwork and now you’re copying his hand painted art with a computer controlled system that has simultaneously flawlessly reproduced the image as well as introduce a flaw akin to the original inspiration.
Haha yeah. I noticed that some of his dots weren't all that great either. Some of mine are more oblong than round near the top. I think it was caused because the canvas is a flexible cloth surface.
@@Nerdtronicit would be interesting to see other ways you could use this robot, beyond replicating existing works. One thought I had would be giant string art- you that thing where people use string as straight lines to create images. I wonder if you could do something similar only using the paint pens or permanent markers instead of string. I mean the whole point of using the string on a small scale is to create a straight line, but using your robot it would be easy to create a straight line with a pen. I’ve seen another YTr try to recreate string are using a CNC machine like yours, but all I could think is “why is he using string? Much easy to use a pen?”.
The painting looks awesome
Bot Ross
Hahaha! That would have much more complex tool paths. No happy little accidents.
Robert Tolone sent me over, this is great stuff!!
He's great too. Thanks!
This is one of the most amazing things I've ever seen! Truly awesome, as in inspiring genuine awe. Congratulations on a phenomenal success!
Thank you so much 😀
Unreal. I can't believe how good it looks at the end! You're a genius!
To be fair, Roy Lichtenstein stole all of his famous painting from comic artists so even if you had copied one of his paintings it would have probably been totally fair.
There's blogs online documenting all of the instances of stolen art. The idea that he somehow "elevated" the art by printing it on a canvas is insulting to the artists who originally created these works. Look up "drowning girl" to see how badly he copies and comes out looking like the less talented artist.
What a killer result. Amazing accuracy, the finished painting was definitely worth it.
Thanks. I think so too.
Copying a Lichtenstein is perfect considering all of his art is plagiarized.
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I would love to see a part 2 of this! Maybe even integrate it with stable diffusion to create completely original artworks!
Awesome Michael! What development tool did you use to create your painting software? :)
It was written in Xojo running on a mac. It can compile a debug version for Raspberry Pi. Super easy way to quickly create a GUI on Pi.
You pulled it off 100 %. Absolutely perfect. Even the imperfections due to pen holder sagging added a bit of realism and similarity to cartoon inaccuracies.
This has to be a valuable “work of art” as it is one of a kind using this technology. Absolutely astounding engineering…
Thanks!
Both the result and the development of the robot are awesome. Great work.
Now you need to connect it to AI and make it generate its own artwork!
Not sure why this video popped up in my feed but I’m glad it did. Awesome work! Subscribed.
Thanks - welcome abord.
This is really awesome! The painting looks great! Fantastic job by Roybot and you!! I would love to see Roybot do more Lichtenstein inspired paintings in the future.
More artwork is coming. Some will be in this style, others not.
Welcome BACK!!!! Amazing job and really nice 3d rendered graphics of your mechanical designs throughout this video. That's no easy task either. Great work all around!
Thanks
I especially admire how you overcame the obstacles that occurred on the way... brillant!
Thanks!
You killed it, that is very impressive. That robot can compete with the other youtubers with millions of subs. Nice job.
You nailed it! It is 100% convincing. Amazing job on the design and software. You have super-human patience.
Thanks!
I love everything about this, not least that gorgeous painting at the end. Spectacular job, wow
This robot painting the art would be an amazing art piece. Feed it AI images in the style of famous painters and you already have a very solid concept. It says alot about the world we live in and the fear of AI and robots taking over the creative industry. You could sell this to any gallery. People would watch this thing paint for hours in a museum.
Amazing work! Loved this project
Thanks!
Interesting that it works in horizontal position, while you expect gravity is needed.
Anyhow huge respect for you !
If you fill up a glass with water and turn it sideways... gravity is still helping move the paint out of the pen. The little sponge and the nib are also helping wick it out.
Absolutely amazing! Glad TH-cam recommended this video. Great job!
Wow thanks. Hope to do more stuff like this in the future.
Would love to see Roybot with a “tool picker”, to automate pens swaps, maybe with a camera too. Maybe laying the gantry flat would also help ink flow. But what an awesome result to a brilliant idea!
Thanks. Flat wouldn't have helped ink flow because of that valve in the pen. The nib of the pen is bone dry when you open it the first time even though it's been shaken around in all directions during shipping. It might have actually flowed too much after modifiction if it was vertical. I mounted a camera on there but it was just too close up.
So you are an "real" artist AND an "real" engineer? Dam, another modern renaissance man.
Wow thanks.
This just makes me appreciate the real one. Goes to show how difficult it was to make perfect dots
Roy used a stencil. I used motors and software.
And he was a hack who stole comic artist's artwork and claimed it as his own.
This is amazing! Well done😲
Thank you!! 😁
Amazing! Thanks for video. I argued for years a system like yours could be used to paint all manners of murals. But was told it was too complicated to make it worth while.
Did you see the Expanse? When they paint the logo on the Rocenate with a handheld devide. I wanted to make that but it's too slow right now.
Wow! I would say you definitely pulled it off! The results are addicting!
Wow thanks
I like to think that extremely talented/smart people like nerdtronics and stuffmadehere have always existed but nowadays there's a platform to showcase their talents.
wow, awesome results!
I'm Gobsmacked! What an Amazing Project and Superb Video!! Plus, you Answered several questions for me on a Project I have been working on with Stepper Motors!!! 🎉
Thanks and Good Luck.
Love the way you approached this, and I bet there would be ways to turn this into a more automated system … but I see your point!
First video of yours I've stumbled across... your mix of art and mechanical know-how is brilliant. Thank you 👍
Wow thanks! More to come.
I would be so nervous watching it do the black after 6 weeks!
There was a day when I almost ruined the painting 3 times. Once the pen almost crashed into the side of the painting which would have either ripped the painting off the wall or broke the pen spraying paint everywhere. I physicaly held the pen from doing that while I was unscrewing it and it slipped in the belt, kicking it out of registration. Later that same day I realized that the pen was leaking paint and somehow it only ended up all over my hands and didn't drip on the painting. Unfortunately I didn't get any of that on camera.
Sooo cool, you can make such awesome art with this. The engineering on this is top notch
Thanks. More to come.
@Nerdtronic what is your background in? So curious on if your skills are homebrew or if you're some sorta retired legendary engineer
Amazing robot and software, beautiful painting, and terrific video. Subscribed.
Thank you very much!
This is the most impressive project I've ever seen, it's not even close. Seriously impressive, really great work and a blast to watch (jaw dropped the whole time). Damn.
Damn.......that is one of the most awesome things i've seen, kudos for the sheer engineering skill that went into this.
Cool thanks!