How to STOP Elephant's Foot on your 3D Prints

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 พ.ค. 2024
  • Elephants foot can ruin your practical prints and is really annoying to deal with! In this video I'll show you how to improve 3D Print accuracy by mitigating elephants foot in several ways, using CAD, Slicer and 3D Printer tweaks.
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  • @megaglowz8540
    @megaglowz8540 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1552

    I printed a model of an elephant's foot and enabled "elephant foot compensation". My printer disappeared and now I have a mini black hole in my print room. Thanks, Angus.......

    • @gladwintheawesome883
      @gladwintheawesome883 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Hate when that happens

    • @tdnam_9989
      @tdnam_9989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      I print the elephant foot now my house is full of nuclear radiation and melt my printer :/

    • @TestTest-eb8jr
      @TestTest-eb8jr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      😅

    • @Inventorsquare
      @Inventorsquare 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I’m shocked at how much I can relate.

    • @Dosbomber
      @Dosbomber 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      On the upside, a quantum singularity is an easy pet to maintain, and it'll eat anything. You have a great way to get rid of your leftovers and trash, and if you can train it to spin, you can generate power for the house.

  • @DD-DD-DD
    @DD-DD-DD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +331

    Go to any automotive shop and get an inexpensive set of "feeler gauges". These are a bundle of metal slivers of calibrated thicknesses used for setting spark plug gaps. Choose the sliver that corresponds to your bed offset and slide it under the nozzle until it barely fits. Attempt same with the next size sliver down, if it will not go, then your know your exact nozzle offset is somewhere between the two. Much more accurate and repeatable than the "paper pull" method and only costs ~$10.

    • @chuckthebull
      @chuckthebull 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Dude! I never would have connected the dots.. Thanks for this suggestion,,,I also do car repair so I have these too,,,genius

    • @gregoryconnors7370
      @gregoryconnors7370 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I preach the Feeler Gospel daily! It makes such a huge difference.

    • @n1elkyfan
      @n1elkyfan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Feeler gages are awesome. Not only does it tell you exactly what the gap is, it will also not change thickness or get damage as you use it.

    • @anastasiacline6159
      @anastasiacline6159 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      My 3D printer came with feeler gages so I was sort of shocked when he said people use paper to gage the height for the nozzle. Like people who sell these expensive machines don't give enough of an F to give you the tools to use their product correctly? Why?

    • @PatrickPease
      @PatrickPease 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Right on, these are old old old machinist tips that only the oldest and probably deadest old timers used to use before numeric control.
      Get a book from a guy named dave gingery (dead) titled "build your own metal working shop from scrap" it's filled with hundreds of tips like this to create precision machine tools without precision measuring tools.
      I just got my 1st 3d printer and so much of the advice online is watching people struggle to find these ancient answers

  • @mururoa7024
    @mururoa7024 3 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    In Cura it's called Initial Layer Horizontal Expansion. Works like a charm.
    Rafts produce an ugly finish on the bottom layer.

    • @darkshadow31415
      @darkshadow31415 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      thank you for directing me there.

    • @dragonthc
      @dragonthc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And I find rafts impossible to remove from PETG prints.

    • @RobertoTacconelli
      @RobertoTacconelli 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dragonthc yes they are in PETG. I need to use electrical tools and sand it loosing accuracy gained with it. I hate rafts lol

    • @jazzmeltsface
      @jazzmeltsface 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So what would you set the "Initial Layer Horizontal Expansion" at? Specifically

    • @mururoa7024
      @mururoa7024 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@jazzmeltsface -0.1 (YMMV) to slightly shrink the size of the first layer and eliminate the elephant foot.

  • @dicksmith3553
    @dicksmith3553 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Excellent. I just bought me ender 3 v2 and it’ll be delivered this coming week. Now you just made me more excited to start. By the way I’m 76 yrs young so I’ve got a lot of learning to do. Never too old to learn. Keeps your mind in tip top shape
    Thanks again and I’ll start using your Videos once I’m up and running

    • @yeldarb141983
      @yeldarb141983 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      got one a while back for me and the fiance. first printer, so take me with a grain of salt. Still working out the kinks, but I definitely like blue masking tape better than window cleaner for adhesion, though I havent tried gluestick yet (look around, you'll hear all about it). That being said, I definitely find that it can be a pita to get it off pla models sometimes, especially larger ones, but I prefer to not risk the print not coming off at all, even though it's more of a risk with petg, or so I hear.
      already did the spring upgrade. not really sure if it made it better or worse, but it's all a learning experience anyhow, so :shrug:
      The big thing I'm learning is practice, practice, practice and tweak, tweak, tweak.
      good luck!

    • @dicksmith3553
      @dicksmith3553 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well a follow-up to my message three months ago I bought some glue for my ender 3v2 glass top and I’ll tell you everthing sticks no Elephant’s feet nothing works perfect especially when you do multiple prints of the same object thru the new Cura slicer. It has a lot of settings to help with the elephants foot and helping things stick but I find glue is best and you can make two or three runs with the same glue on the top then clean it with just plain water ( wet a paper towel then clean) and then a little bit of Windex after the put more glue on and run your prints again.

    • @Allen-R
      @Allen-R ปีที่แล้ว

      nice

  • @Chlorate299
    @Chlorate299 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    One thing to mention: if you slice and print a 20mm cube, no matter how well calibrated your printer is it will *always* measure slightly less than 20mm in the end unless you compensate for material shrinkage by resizing the part slightly.

  • @ikew3150
    @ikew3150 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Good video. Have been printing for years and very surprised recently on the “lack” of videos to help with this. Thanks again for everything you do!

    • @exqueue3813
      @exqueue3813 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think it's one of those things people learn to live with because it means your first layer adhesion is really good. Most people don't need their parts to be dimensionally accurate to where it matters.

    • @ikew3150
      @ikew3150 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ex Queue yeah totally agree! My 3D printers create my living currently, so in the past I’d just take a fine rotary tool and take the flair off for closer to accurate dimensions, but still not perfect. Eliminating it all together is the best thing to do but requires a decent amount of tuning. On both design and hardware.

    • @GoatZilla
      @GoatZilla 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@exqueue3813 Because most people are printing useless landfill material.

  • @nachiket481
    @nachiket481 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dude your like the best guy on youtube who does not focus on just one printer model. I like how you make most your videos more general so those with a different printers can follow along anyways. Thanks angus! 😄😀😃

  • @yourgamesbeover
    @yourgamesbeover 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    what a good video! Due to other issues with my printer, I've had to make some tweaks that drastically increase the elephant's foot issue for me. It's interesting that this video focuses not on "fixing" the issue, but more on how to compensate for it. Excellent video that just got me re-inspired to print again!

  • @radsan3006
    @radsan3006 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much for all the time you spend teaching everyone all these tips and tricks to get by on our printers, it's much appreciated! Please, don't ever stop!

  • @alexandrugroza839
    @alexandrugroza839 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Exactly, if you home all the axis and level the bed with apiece of paper then you will have a .1/.2 mm gap at z 0 position so when the first layer is printing it will lift up another .2mm depending on the layer height resulting in a .4mm gap. So when i level my bed i lift up the z axis .1 mm and level there with a .1mm piece of paper resulting in a thiny little gap between the noozle and the bed at 0 position because the paper has a little room to play. I was looking for this technique online but didn't found anybody who used it and i didn't know if it was right but it works for me!

    • @JamesNewcombVO
      @JamesNewcombVO 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I used to do this too before I got an ABL system. I kind of still do it, but now it's done in firmware and for a different reason. In Marlin I have LEVEL_CORNERS_HEIGHT set to 0.4 and I use a 0.4 mm feeler gauge. Heat the bed, level the corners with the feeler gauge, run a G29 and that guarantees my leveling springs stay at the same level of compression essentially forever (having it set to 0 would compress the springs by 0.4 mm every time I ran a corner leveling sequence, having to at some point loosen the screws when one of them eventually bottoms out).

  • @chansepaskins1915
    @chansepaskins1915 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Found this channel earlier today. As a current biomedical engineering major, accurate and precise 3d modeling and printing is a necessary skill to master. Thanks for your outstanding videos, subbed for sure👍

  • @spikekent
    @spikekent 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great advice as always Angus. Those new models look amazing, can't wait to see and print, always love your fiendish puzzles.

  • @jalensailin
    @jalensailin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks so much for talking about rafts. I've always thought they seem super useful but haven't seen many youtubers using them often so I was a little nervous. but this makes me feel better about them!

  • @anoirbentanfous
    @anoirbentanfous 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    All your videos are amazingly useful even if we know about what you are talking about already but the fact you emphasize it make the information stuck and now I am finally convinced to use Rafts for the parts that I intend them to be precise.

  • @kevalinopicks5555
    @kevalinopicks5555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tremendous video, Angus. So much useful information. I get these problems and until a few days ago I didn’t know what a raft was!

  • @animationcreations42
    @animationcreations42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I don't get why people hate rafts, for some prints they're necessary, especially things like rings where there's not much contact with the bed.
    I find even a 1 layer raft can make a huge difference, and it really doesn't take that much longer, or use that much filament. I probably waste more changing filaments to make sure the colour has changed!

    • @twinturbostang
      @twinturbostang 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      For me, I don't like them because the surface finish of the bottom of the model is not as good. But I do use them if I have to.

    • @havenview
      @havenview 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A brim would be far more effective with your example

    • @animationcreations42
      @animationcreations42 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@havenview It totally depends, one of my printers absolutely hates printing circles smaller than 20mm on the first layer (probably down to the fake easy peelzy, but I'm too cheap to replace it because it works fine with everything else!) so a brim really doesn't help. My other printer on the other hand can get away with it just fine.

    • @CursedBrainJuice
      @CursedBrainJuice 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've started embracing rafts more than every in the last couple of months for lightsaber parts

    • @symmetryninja
      @symmetryninja 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If rafts didn't have a use, they'd not be in the slicer settings :) and people who argue that you don't need rafts simply haven't had the situation where they're needed or they've found an alternative solution... simple as that. They are wasteful of material and they do add some print time but they've really good in certain situations.

  • @pandajesus5052
    @pandajesus5052 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You’re so engaging that I somehow watched all of this when I don’t have any interests in 3D printing.. it was quite interesting, I gotta say

  • @RM_VFX
    @RM_VFX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for this, it validated something I've been doing for months. I needed to print some structural pieces on a resin printer without elephant foot and figured a 0.5mm chamfer would compensate for the 0.5mm elephant foot I've been getting. The nice thing is with resing elephant foot only occurs on the bottom layers that have been set to a longer exposure, so it's very easy to figure out how high to make the chamfer and the part is still very dimensionally accurate.

  • @cedriceveleigh
    @cedriceveleigh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love how the elephant foot compensation and whatever makes support material easily detachable are both things that are activated by default in the Prusa Slicer. I just switched over from using Cura slicer with a Creality CR10 Mini to Prusa Slicer with a Prusa Mk3S, and I'm very happy with these two features, in addition to the magnetic PEI bed and the generally excellent functionality of the Prusa Mk3S printer.

  • @miranda.cooper
    @miranda.cooper 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was the biggest problem I've had to deal with lately. Thank you so much for putting this out there! Found the "Initial Layer Horizontal Expansion" setting in Cura and I'm going to try it tomorrow :)

  • @philevans4021
    @philevans4021 3 ปีที่แล้ว +193

    It's time to talk about the elephant's foot in the room

    • @davidm8371
      @davidm8371 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol

    • @noahhall4906
      @noahhall4906 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😐

    • @jimster1111
      @jimster1111 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i read that in CHEP's voice

    • @steveharris2451
      @steveharris2451 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jimster1111 what

    • @Caleb_Guffey
      @Caleb_Guffey 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If the elephants foot is in your room you are probably dead
      Google it

  • @coltonames7535
    @coltonames7535 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Elephants foot compensation is “horizontal expansion” in Cura. I’ve used it in a pinch to give models a bit more play or to tighten up gaps for a better fit. Super helpful!!!

  • @kippie80
    @kippie80 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You've got the best points on design that are concisely and clearly presented. Thanks!

  • @Waltkat
    @Waltkat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    And in Cura it's called "Initial Layer Horizontal Expansion", but instead of a positive number, you have to enter a negative, i.e., -0.3mm or whatever. There's also the command "Horizontal Expansion" which is used to compensate for holes that print out too small (or large). Again, enter a negative number to compensate for holes that print too small and a positive for holes that are too big.
    Both of these work pretty well for me.

  • @Bajicoy
    @Bajicoy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great troubleshooting video!
    You can also set your first layer height in the slicer to 0mm or whatever with a piece of paper or even pause the printer at its first layer/temperature to level it then.
    Anyways, I just eyeball the level and either adjust screws or babystep/set home offset until things are level while printing. I assume a tolerance of .2-.3mm with a .4mm nozzle for projects so there is no need for a raft.
    Another tip is lowering the bed temperature. I was printing PETG at 85 on the bed and just reducing the temperature to 80 reduced elephant foot almost completely.

  • @johncontreras6190
    @johncontreras6190 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for your videos I’m currently saving up for a 3D printer and I’m already picking up tricks and techniques thanks to your videos

  • @DanBalan1
    @DanBalan1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Hello Angus, this issue has been killing me this week with a filament that I put a lot of trust in. I've only been at modeling and printing for about 2 months now, and your videos have been hugely helpful. This one takes the cake though. Thank you so much!!!

  • @mcsstudios101
    @mcsstudios101 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just started to try printing with Prusa. This is so helpful. Thank you!

  • @jamesfairfoul1265
    @jamesfairfoul1265 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    cool video dude, just recieved my ender 3 v2, not had chance to build yet, so been watching as many tuition vids to get up to speed!! great info thankyou

  • @octopus1613
    @octopus1613 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh! That explains that. I'm very new to 3D printing, and have so far printed one thing (on a library printer) and it definitely had elephant's foot. I was wondering why it was a little wider at the base. Nice to know that my plan of adding a chamfer round the base edge is actually a recommended solution.

  • @only3dprinting
    @only3dprinting 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are the channel that inspired me to create my own youtube channel about 3D printing. Keep making great videos!!!

  • @TheJaiger
    @TheJaiger 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great timing. I've been running into this lately. Thanks!

  • @SlendermanFreeman
    @SlendermanFreeman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This tutorial couldn't have come at a better time :V
    I had a whole plethora of issues that I only had myself to blame for - I'm a rookie and made the silly decision of doing my first ever nozzle and bed upgrades (despite the fact that my printer was dialled in to near perfection with my old nozzle & bed), right in the middle of a bunch of commissions for some pals. Looks like I was way too confident in my ability to troubleshoot because it was one problem after another, (bed levelling and the nozzle wasn't fitted properly, ontop of speed settings etc.) I kept my head on and solved everything pretty quick until this damn elephants foot which I've been at for days with little improvement.
    I was just about ready to call it quits and refund my friends till you uploaded this and now I'm happily on my way to finishing each commission. I think this calls for some more celebratory upgrades. :^)

  • @MD-NWWI
    @MD-NWWI 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish I would have had this info 3 years ago when I first started 3d printing! I knew nothing about 3d printing besides I was getting a computerized machine with a mini hot glue gun on it. The first 6 months or so of 3D printing was figuring out how to get the perfect first layer with no "squeeze out" was what I called it then. In the beginning I thought maybe my filament was too hot, or the heated bed was too hot and my prints were melting inside themselves!
    I just have to say you have done a glorious job of explaining what elephants foot is and how to compensate for it.
    Thank you thank you!

  • @samaipata4756
    @samaipata4756 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    THANK YOU! This was a very well done, very useful video covering the entire spectrum of the elephant foot issue and giving valuable advice and great solution options on how to remedy the issue! 👍👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏👏👏👏👏

  • @dragonslayor987
    @dragonslayor987 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I tend to just eyeball my corner leveling. I find its suprisingly more accurite than basing the height on how well the nozzle grips the paper. Just use babystepping to grt the hight perfect while you print your skirt. Also when leveling corners make sure there isnt any plastic on the tip of the nozzle. Made that mistake plenty.

  • @nimmen
    @nimmen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was the video I needed. My prints come out pretty well and I'm happy with the dimensional accuracy, already better than some stuff I've seen at Uni. Except for the first 3-5 layers.. I was looking on how to fix this. Trying it tomorrow!
    Next step: the remaining tiny bit of Z inconsistency and the infill structure slightly popping through

  • @diggraph
    @diggraph 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this video. I have a persistent EF problem on my Ender 3 but all the other videos I have seen only talk about the EF being on the first layer. Mine is visible up to as many as 10 layers and all protruding outwards, not concave like some you showed. I have tried many adjustments but I will now revisit the problem.

  • @OwnerOfOwn
    @OwnerOfOwn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    comment comment engagement. comment for the algorithm.
    Miss your face, glad you're keeping up on projects man.

    • @MakersMuse
      @MakersMuse  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks man ! Getting back into it

    • @NJDrew951
      @NJDrew951 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Comments for the comment god, and likes for the like throne!

  • @techheadfred
    @techheadfred 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent reminder of this and some great tips for mitigating it. Thanks for another great video!

  • @madkvideo
    @madkvideo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whoa, I was having this issue with a test print yesterday! Perfect timing!

  • @goonermark8565
    @goonermark8565 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid.
    Superslicer has a setting for elephants foot and also has another setting which lets you select how many layers to compensate for.

  • @spencerdiniz
    @spencerdiniz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Would’ve been nice to see a comparison of a cube printed with and without a raft to see if accuracy is improved.

  • @json9865
    @json9865 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for this, I really was having trouble with my printer giving me this.

  • @thequietcraftsman
    @thequietcraftsman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For very small parts I find chamfers especially helpful in keeping them dimensionally stable in the X and Y

  • @carbide1968
    @carbide1968 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much Angus. It's been a big problem for me and now i think my parts might fit.

  • @Thor110
    @Thor110 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You print some awesome things and make some great Videos, I am getting a Creality Ender 3 Pro soon as my first 3D Printer and have seen some interesting mods for it and I was wondering if you had any suggestions or improvements of your own, though I will likely re-watch your videos and watch many more once it arrives. Thank you for making great content for the community to help people get started with 3D Printing.

  • @zimmy1958
    @zimmy1958 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always love your content for years now, THANKS.

  • @markmccoy1207
    @markmccoy1207 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Top notch advice as usual, Angus. Thanks again.

  • @NackDSP
    @NackDSP 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Root causes of Elephant's foot, extruded width is wider than you spec'd due to wrong height, perimeter printed last gets nudged out by too wide fill, first layer stays too hot gets crushed. Fix these and get a perfect first layer: 1. Robust tuning to handle bed variation. First layer needs to be the thickest layer so changes in bed level are a small percentage of the first layer height. A 0.1 mm variation in bed level is 50% of a 0.2 mm layer, and results will always be crap. Use a thick first layer like 0.32 and pick a layer that is divisible by 4 full step motor steps for most Z accuracy. 2. Print first layer, stop, peel up and measure on all sides with micrometer. Adjust nozzle height and bed level manually until what you peel up and measure is as close as possible to the first layer specified in slicer. Measure near each level screw if possible. 3. Leave room for extra material due to variation. Set first layer extrusion width to the widest to get great adhesion, like 120%. This both increases flow rate and spaces the traces farther apart. Then set first layer flow rate to 90%. This will allow for variation in bed level before the print gets too big. 4. Print perimeter first on first layer. This avoids overly thick fill traces from bumping out the perimeter. 5. Slow down enough so first layer is cool before second layer goes down. Second layer with the fan blasting, to avoid crushing and expanding the first layer. Those setting at 1:30 are the opposite of what you want. Use First layer height 0.32 and First layer width 0.48, first layer flow 90 %, adjust as needed. Enjoy the perfect first layer.

  • @RavensEyeOffroad
    @RavensEyeOffroad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, I have been fighting with this for a week. Im really new to 3D printing and its been a bit of a nightmare to get it all going. CR10 but the glass was apparently warped out the gate. I bought 12x12 panes from lowes and it took me all day to dial that in. I just ended up using rafts like you said as I still must be off a touch or Z is somehow or being told to increase z height at the start. Thanks for the video!

  • @DarKNG
    @DarKNG 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Recently all of my prints have been a little off on the base, like it was squished, and i just couldnt figure out what was going on, thank you for this!

  • @philq01
    @philq01 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I printed you clearance castle on my new FLsun SuperRacer at 150mm and no problems everything was prefect!

  • @jackwhitman9278
    @jackwhitman9278 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice solution! To fix it in S3D, I just add another process just for the first layer and give it negative Horizontal Size Compensation

  • @wastedblues2
    @wastedblues2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Our 2 stratasys printers default to using rafts otherwise they would fuse, the markforged prints directly to the bed but it always looks fantastic. My guess is a combination of accurate leveling and software correction. My printer at home uses foam blocks with HIPS so that's fun.

  • @AdnanASyukri
    @AdnanASyukri 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is very informative... Thank you Angus!

  • @Jynxx_13
    @Jynxx_13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +300

    ...not to mention that the "Elephants Foot" is the most dangerous object on planet earth. Thanks Chernobyl!!

    • @ilikeyourname4807
      @ilikeyourname4807 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Help, my printer gives me radiation poisoning and is eating it's way through my floor

    • @peng6100
      @peng6100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@chrissieblossom if it does just put it in rice smh

    • @Caleb_Guffey
      @Caleb_Guffey 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ya thats what I was thinking

    • @canadianradiochemist4465
      @canadianradiochemist4465 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      you're welcome

    • @theskieshavefallen8408
      @theskieshavefallen8408 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Sorry but you're wrong.
      My Mother in law is the most dangerous object on Earth.

  • @avejst
    @avejst 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great updates
    Good points
    Thanks for sharing👍😀

  • @Steven42192
    @Steven42192 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much for this video you took me from needing tool to get 5 all the way to being able to do 3 with ease

  • @CarlosFandango73
    @CarlosFandango73 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Angus, this is really helpful

  • @stewarta899
    @stewarta899 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That happens to me all the time this was very helpful thanks Angus

  • @Kevccordion
    @Kevccordion 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Underside chamfer is GENIUS! Thanks!!!

  • @ipadaccount7059
    @ipadaccount7059 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I already use most of these things to stop elephants foot on my prints. What i suggest is putting a little bit of glue from a glue stick on the bed before the print and making the first laver height the same of higher than all the others. Really good tutorial. You did a really good job at explaining the fine details for people that are new to 3d printing. A++

  • @mozkitolife5437
    @mozkitolife5437 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, Angus. I'm dealing with this now on a complicated device with low tolerances. I'm sick of using a stanley knife to cut off the elepheet!

  • @pv8685
    @pv8685 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you are really smart angus! love your stuff!

  • @Liberty4Ever
    @Liberty4Ever 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this excellent tutorial.

  • @atrayyu3016
    @atrayyu3016 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your Channel, Thank you!! I purchased your clearance tolerance spinner file and no matter what I do, I can't get rid of the elephants foot on the first few layers. This fuses all the parts together on the first few layers. The rest of it seems to have really good clearance and would work well if the bottom layers weren't fused together. Could you possibly add chamfers to the bottom of that model to aid in this?

  • @geofferyshanen7758
    @geofferyshanen7758 ปีที่แล้ว

    Angus your awesome !! I have a cr10s pro and I have upgraded backlash nuts, micro swiss hotend. I am getting so frustrated with my parts coming out inaccurate. If you ever decide to come to the US on a holiday, I have a beautiful home in the mountains near Yosemite National Park! I would be more than honored to offer you a a private room in exchange for a few hours of instruction one on one… I have a Plasma Table and a Wood Carving Avid cnc machine…. you would be welcome to use any or all of them.
    All you need to do is get here, your food and lodging are on me…..
    Thanks,
    Geoff

  • @DioZambrano
    @DioZambrano 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm a newbie and your video took me out of 5 failures on my print, thank you so much. i was like on a time loop. :p

  • @danielsantrikaphundo4517
    @danielsantrikaphundo4517 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting and informative.
    I think it is also worth mentioning the *temperature of the bed:* the squeeze of the first layer is possible because the bed heats plastic enoguh to be able to deform.
    By reducing the temperature of the bed after the first layer from, say, 60 to 50 degrees Celsius (PrusaSlicer has a specific option to set this), also reduces the squeeze of the first layer.
    I don't like using chamfers to correct the printed object, as it is not actually a part of the object, just a trick to overcome the squeeze of the first layer. But it works ^^', just as rafts do; sometimes you have to do what you have to do in order to have the printer make the object well

  • @GraphicdesignforFree
    @GraphicdesignforFree 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tip of the raft, I will use that in Cura now, thanks!

  • @aserta
    @aserta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I haven't had elephant's foot on my prints ever since i got and started using Simplify3D on my paper leveled CR-10. It's nearly all in the slicer as far as i'm concerned.
    My paper method consists of me pushing the bed down out of the way of the head by .3 and starting a random print that puts the start in the center. I then stop the print (but keep the heat on).
    Using the paper i raise the bed on all four sides evenly until i can do the slip fit (on mine, because the fan motor got hit at some point, there's a bit of harmonics, not enough to hurt prints, but i can instantly feel when the tip is transmitting vibrations through the paper on the bed (and my hand by extension).
    Once that's accomplished, i do a half way square up, recent to make sure i didn't lose the center height, and finally do a (on bolts) square up. Obviously all this is done with a fully covered glass bed (classic paper tape, flattened down with a spatula).
    The paper i use is just a on old business card i have tons of, i think it's twice the thickness of regular paper. If i observe any issues, i raise the starting of the print via Simplify3D.
    Now, why do i say that it's all in the slicer? Because before, when i used Cura, i had inconsistency after inconsistency. Not enough to make me level the bed a lot, but enough for me to note it. With S3D i just start the thing, make sure i don't have any drip, and leave it be. I level the bed only once every 60 prints or so, because i like to clean the tracks and wheels and lubricate the bearings.

  • @morett91281
    @morett91281 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, great video. I have a question regarding your Clearance and Tolerance 3D Printer Gauge since I usually print with a 0.6 nozzle. If it helps me to buy your file and what layer height do you recommend.

  • @tugtrifeyt7078
    @tugtrifeyt7078 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    YES I needed this video so much ty

  • @grantholder4132
    @grantholder4132 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you!....I honestly don't know why I didn't think of a simple chamfer myself!

  • @ramrod126
    @ramrod126 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Currently printing your clearance test thing on m,y brand new (around 15 prints in) CR6 SE with the included filament. So far the prints i have done, including a benchy and the articulated octopus have come out very well. I hope this print does as well.

  • @alanjones3514
    @alanjones3514 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I first got my print I would use a raft more often than not. As I have got confident setting first layer height and bed adhesion, not so much now. Thank for the tips

  • @OnceShy_TwiceBitten
    @OnceShy_TwiceBitten 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    dont forget, you can also mitigate some with a well adjusted and leveled bed AND proper z axis comp. (provided that bed isnt warped) PLUS having a bl touch can help for beds that are not prefect.

  • @flymypg
    @flymypg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    One aspect to consider is bed texture. My Artillery Sidewinder X1 v4 has about a 1mm waffle pattern in the glass bed. It was driving me crazy, and no amount of bed leveling, slicing, or model compensation was giving me perfect parts. One "trick" was to cover the bed with glue-stick, let it dry, then scrape off as much as I could using a very sharp wood chisel.
    But what about when I wanted the bed texture to appear on the print? The brute-force method is just let the print do what it does, then do a quick pass with a deburring tool. Which works great where the first layer edges are straight or gently curving, but fails badly for tighter curves and sharp corners.

  • @nigmaxus
    @nigmaxus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for explaining this

  • @wuerfel_schmied
    @wuerfel_schmied 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just at 11:30, I love rafts. I don't need them anymore, but on my first days working on a makerspace machine it wouldn't have come along without a raft. This bit of extra material is often worth compared to failed prints.

  • @chucklamb3496
    @chucklamb3496 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative! Thanks so much!

  • @franksmit4914
    @franksmit4914 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice video, i use paper as well, but in the software i use a offset off the thickness of the paper to make sure the nozzle is where it should be, no matter what thickness it is.

  • @Cairdymakes
    @Cairdymakes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Angus, super helpful 🙂

  • @shurmurray
    @shurmurray 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A few words about crazy and complicated 3D designs: procedural generation and scripting helps A LOT. F.e. - using openSCAD in conjunction with Python and SolidPython library. It made possible create 3D models literally impossible to hand-draw in regular CADs, yet going to need at least elementary programming skills and intent to dig into it.

  • @CaIasanctius
    @CaIasanctius 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i used the rafts from the clearance gauge as coasters....its a nice shape.

  • @davisdiercks
    @davisdiercks 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I remember right Cura has an adjustable number of layers to apply elephant's foot compensation; I use it on almost anything that isn't printed on a raft. And yeah, when I really need that perfect accuracy, I do swear by using a raft. One of my prints required several copies of a part being printed on a hexagonal raft about 10mm wide, and since they pulled away so cleanly I made the resulting rafts into coasters for beverages! No wasted material, they look cool, and they actually work quite well!

  • @stevemitchell1265
    @stevemitchell1265 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    To mitigate the gap created by paper thickness when touching off, try using something other than paper, which is .003" in thickness. I suggest getting some steel shim stock, available in .001" thick so it takes 2/3 of the problem away. Another choice might be the cellophane wrapper on many cigarette boxes, if you know someone who smokes. It is most often .001" also, but a bit more flimsy and tears easily. I have used shim stock to touch off tools on a cnc mill.

  • @guidomersmann9744
    @guidomersmann9744 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use normal zikzak support instead of a raft. Usually I print a model 3mm in to the air. This works very well. Especially with ABS to protect against warping. Enable „brim for support“ to get more bed adhesion. Using support means less material, far less print time and basically the same result.

  • @Festivejelly
    @Festivejelly 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I lessened the effect by running a cooler bed. Lots of people have their bed temps way too high which means the bottom layer deforms and "flows" into a foot. I found around 50 - 55c being ideal for PLA.

  • @moimeme8827
    @moimeme8827 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    greatvideo ! thank's !
    and now how can we do to have better tolerance? My printer do 0.4 great, 0.3 medium (dependaing of the speed) and 0.2 very bad :(

  • @cptwingnut576
    @cptwingnut576 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Angus, I’m a bit late for this one, if your puzzle is really difficult please send one to Chris Ramsey.
    Great videos, very helpful, thank you.

  • @parkflyerindonesia8073
    @parkflyerindonesia8073 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the explanation and tips.
    I see you're using Ender as well as Prusa Slicer. Do you see Prusa Slicer better than Cura? I have some issues with missing layer in Cura and turns out it could be minimized as thinner wall at that particular missing layer but not totally fixed,

  • @sylvainlathuy2702
    @sylvainlathuy2702 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Concerning the "Elephant Foot": in Cura, look for "Initial Layer Horizontal Expansion". Putting a slight negative value there will do the trick. This would be a way more elegant solution than modifying the design of the model...
    Then if you have issues with tolerances and dimension accuracy, have a look on how to calibrate the "Horizontal Expansion" value. This value differs a lot between different materials and a little between different settings for the same material. (I get values like -0.07mm for PETG on an Ender-5)

  • @allliver123
    @allliver123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks! i just got my first printer (ender 3) and it is arriving in a week or so, so i want to get as many tips as possible

  • @thesteelcolonel
    @thesteelcolonel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Me: doesn’t even have a 3D printer.
    Also me watching this video: Hmm yes, interesting...

    • @wispblu
      @wispblu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Y=same

    • @krisknowlton5935
      @krisknowlton5935 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Col_Weab976 YT you should get one. They are a lot of fun to make things with. My grandson asked me what I was going to do with one. I told I didn't know. But since then I have made quite a few things that wood or steel was just not a good medium to use. Plus now you have a good excuse to learn a 3d CAD software to keep your brain from turning to mush (it may fry it though). At 66 I am still learning and having a blast making things.

    • @thesteelcolonel
      @thesteelcolonel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@krisknowlton5935 you know what? This. This comment is what’s pushing me over the edge. Imma get one.

    • @krisknowlton5935
      @krisknowlton5935 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thesteelcolonel I bought the Ender 3 Pro. It seems to be a good machine. Mine has made excellent prints.

    • @thesteelcolonel
      @thesteelcolonel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@krisknowlton5935 how much does it cost?

  • @bernardbockwurst
    @bernardbockwurst 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I level differently. I just print a bed leveling model, with let's say nine square areas, and I level just by looking on the lines while printing. I barely have an elephant foot, maybe 0.05mm and the overall size of for example a 20x20x20 cube is 20x20x19.9X. I will definitely try the raft, if that improves my prints. Thank you for the great video!

  • @tttuberc
    @tttuberc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perfect timing. I think i will print gears or gearboxes soon

  • @oliwally
    @oliwally 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Angus, heard you mention the UP printer in this video. We still have two of those at our school but since buying a Prusa it's not being used much, mainly because it seems like we can't use Slicer with the UP - have to use their printing software. What's worse is that their latest software doesn't support our UP printer so they have told us to use a legacy driver. Lot's of fails using that combo. Have you had any luck using Prusa Slicer or Slic3r with your UP printer?

  • @rpavlik1
    @rpavlik1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video!
    I never really notice elephants foot in my prints, but maybe I'm just trimming it off along with the brim or something - I love my deburring tool for print cleanup and rarely do print in place things. I'll have to buy your nice clearance test one of these days and see just how good I've gotten it. I do feel like I do a better job setting bed height using a feeler gauge instead of paper, but maybe that's because I have practice using a feeler gauge elsewhere and have a sense of how it feels at the right spacing. (I think it also helps to have the next size smaller and larger to check against, helps me get more precise, though given I have a thick aluminum bed that loves to warp, it's all relative)
    Kind of surprising you see more than one layer of elephants foot (not sure the mechanism for how that would happen, is the first layer also ending up a little taller than expected due to squish?) but prusaslicer only compensates one layer. Seems like that would be an easy improvement to make, though of course it wouldn't help with things like the part of your headphone holder that you intentionally didn't chamfer to keep the contact area large enough. (Could probably add features to the slicer to restrict compensation to areas with a sufficiently large and wide contact area, but that's probably a lot harder to add.)

    • @stevesclocks
      @stevesclocks 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could the multiple layers of elephants foot be caused by the part melting into the heated bed? It seems to be most visible on really long prints since these have the most weight pushing down for a long time.