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- We are in Yokohama, the second-largest city in Japan, hoping to find out what the EV market is like and how Chinese electric vehicles are doing here.
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The thing is that EV shines on commuting with overnight charging. However most Japanese do not have their own garage that offers 200V electricity, nor do they have to drive a car to commute.
The only time I drive is for road trips - long distance with no overnight charging is one of the specific use cases where current EVs perform terribly.
Maybe NIO and their partners will come there soon with battery swap stations, might be more suitable.
You don't need to charge overnight, EACH night. A modern EV has a range of over 300km.
The average japanese driver has a 5000km/year, and 90% of japanese drivers on their private vehicles drive less than 10.000km
This translates in 100km / week for the average and 200km/week for the 90% of drivers.
Literally, a normal japanese driver would need to charge ONCE / month with a modern EV.
Because japan has a culture of dictatorship and poverty, eating low level food and living in low level homes, being oppressed at work, (one could say enslaved) being forced to use public transportation instead of owning private vehicles.
If you look closely, japan is a dystopian cyberpunk country, a bad place a toxic place, racist and hateful for anything not japan society.
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Excuses excuses. The real reason is protectionism. Just like the USA. Free trade when it benefits them only. 😂😂😂
how do most people charge in China? Surely if Japan wanted to they could implement similar charging systems.
i live in brazil and BYD chinese are everywhere here in brazil. we love BYD... from your good friends in brazil !!!!!
Same in Australia
chinese cars are just the best. @@jimgraham6722
good cars, ez to drive & fair price!
That just means Brazilians are poor...
A few years from now they'll be absolute junk.
The answer should be staring you in the face. Look at what are the most popular brands in Japan in any tech segment, be it TVs, laptops, appliances, motorcycles... or cars. They top 5 in each segment are Japanese. The only company that has managed to break through is Apple in mobile phones.
Not only are Japanese economically patriotic, preferring for their money to be spent on Japanese products, they have a strong belief in the superiority of their technology.
And BYD and Kia? The Japanese don't like either the Chinese or the Koreans (and vice versa), so it's hardly surprising neither of these brands have been successful in Japan.
It’s simple. Japanese will buy Japanese car not matter if it’s EV or ICE.
Nokia was also an enormous name in Japan when they were an enormous name elsewhere as well.
They don't necessarily reject the others, just they gotta match the Japanese market. Apple managed that (and design wise it's easy to understand, but functionality wise to be honest I have no clue how the Japanese even cared about it), the Xbox also did terribly there and that's no wonder either considering it's basically the "wrong box" in Japanese (they grade their tests with circle for right and X for wrong in case wondering).
Another commenter also said it simply: the biggest advantage of an EV is "fueling" it at home, which isn't even remotely a possibility, or need, for many Japanese.
Reason why BYD sells bad: 1. Wrong strategy. They export only EVs but in China mostly sell long range PHEVs. I bet PHEVs would sell better. 2. GREED. Dolphin cost 11k USD in China and 24k USD in Japan:)
@@habub500Japanese are racists with a history of horrible crimes against humanity.
@@GallAnonim-jx2cz Selling at higher price is NOT greed. Countries often have tariffs on imports. Japan has 10% tariff on BYD I think. There are transport costs. Also if BYD selling as cheap as in China, then many of those citizens from Japan and elsewhere will abuse China by shouting "China is trying to destroy the local industry, bad China".
1) japan has been having energy crisis for decades, fukushima incident and other nuclear power plans being scaled down make the issues more serious.
2) lack of garage and charging at home especially in the city. They use 120v default which has more than 15% ac to dc conversion loss when charging
3) those tiny kei cars are very cheap and efficient, they can get nearly 50 mpg us.
4) they prefer pushing for hydrogen since they have deposits on their shores that they can mine for hydrogen in the future if needed
@terradrive
In Japan's case hydrogen is the way to go hands down.
The only problem is getting manufacturers to make them because if Japan is the only viable market most won't bother.
It would probably take parts of Europe building up the infrastructure too because it can work there as well in a way it probably couldn't in America's case.
@@hollowgonzalo4329 the state besides me (same country) already building and going to start commission around 2025 to produce green hydrogens. Mostly for South Korea but we're going to export to Japan too. That state is currently have around 80% electricity produced by hydropower and thermal. They are adding another 15% hydropower next year. All while the domestic electricity consumption is around 20% (that's why they are building factories to produce green hydrogens to export.
A few extras:
1) It snows very heavily in Japan, and electricity can be unreliable in snowstorms. Many Japanese still use kerosene lanterns as space heaters. EV Range also falls in cold, slushy conditions.
2) Japanese in general don't buy cars from other Asian countries. I mean there are hardly any Korean cars in Japan. Like in Australia the BYD owners are more often to be ethnic Chinese immigrants.
3) Charging networks are pretty appalling in the rural prefectures, where people actually need their cars.
4) Japan has a giant LNG import network infrastructure (much of it after Fukushima to keep the lights on) that can be easily converted to hydrogen.
5) Fuel efficient hybrids and kei cars make the EV switch less appealing during times of high oil prices. (e.g. war in Ukraine)
6) The big Japanese car companies have implicit social obligations to financially support their small parts makers in their supply chain, many of which will go out of business if an EV switch happens. It's already happening in Germany with big layoffs among those who supply their carmakers.
We know better. We know EVs are propaganda shit. It is not just BYD not selling in Japan. Even Tesla is selling like shit. Our grid is similar to that of the US. No scarce. Stupid politicians and fools who believe EVs are the only answer. Technically, nothing advanced about EVs. How can I say that? China has had hundreds of EV manufacturers for over a decade. Most of them can't even build an engine but they can build an EV. Smart EVs...but you can't stop them from burning. I wonder why...
One of the critical reason for Japan going hydrogen only because Toyota says so, and Toyota's been blocking the industry from lobbying EV related proposals in the parliament. Mechanical combustion engines are what Japanese good at, Toyota is not ready to give it up and handover the market to EVs carmakers, especially Chinese brands whom the Japanese been looking down on.
EVs are for city commutes, but good public transport infrastructure is always better than EVs. Cars are for outside the city and that's the one aspect where EVs fail currently.
In your country probably. In China there are millions of charging stations so charging on long trips is not an issue.
This is funny to me, cuz I live in Hamamatsu, and it has some of the worst public transportation systems of the country. Accordingly, Shizuoma prefecture is the region with most car sales, beating even Tokyo.
Stop talking about pure EVs. BYD in China offers EVERY MODEL as EV and PHEV in same price! And these are long range PHEVs, category that doesn't even exist in the west or Japan. So, people in japan don't buy EVs because their market is 10 years behind China. In China capitalism and competition created great cars for every budget, for every needs.
Ultimately it's easier to promote a car-free lifestyle there than an EV-centric lifestyle.
Just back from Japan today where I spent a lot of time spotting EVs. About a dozen spotted over a 2 week period. Manly Tesla 3, Ys. 2x BYD (Atto3 and Dolphin) and a Porsche Taycan.
I went to a Toyota dealership and asked them if I could see a BZ4, they did not know what it was. They did not have any and said they don't sell EVs. They had a Miro (Hydrogen) car out the front.
Japan is very different to Australia. There is not much space. They really need to have an on street charging system to make it viable. Very rare to see a garage that you could charge in. To there credit their electric subway system with millions using it everyday trumps our EV efforts in terms of pollution reduction.
I also noticed that there is a huge solar uptake in Japan so soon the penny will drop that all the excess can go into transport.
Maybe they need battery swap stations, people living in high rises in China are enjoying this convenience.
What you have explained regarding the charging stations being limited makes sense. Most homes especially in the city are tiny most homes don't have a garage so you find most people park their cars on the street or in a parking lot. Like in the video their infrastructure is not made for charging stations to be accommodated there
Because they dont sell BZ4X in Japan but I think Lexus 450 or something basically the same car but far more expensive. BZ4X are for rental.
Evs are ideal for countries with no space with stop and go traffic.
Can charge EVs at home too. I guess they did not know too.
From Chinese perspective, reason is simple, their Toyota honda japanese vehicles is good enough for their own, that's why our EVs doesn't have any market in their country
Because the Japaneses don't like Chineses for historical reasons.
Mainly because Japan has lost the EV-technology to China, so in order to cut the loss, they have to suppress the EV market.
假如未来某个时候电车真的在全世界变成主流，你猜石油的价格会上涨还是下跌？另外，日本生产石油吗？
現在のEVは未完成なものである事を多くの日本人は理解している。
EVが脱炭素の絶対的な答えでないことは明らか。
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こんなところでそんなことを言ったらいじめられるだけよ。
コメントをよく見たらみんな EV が好きなので、
EVが答えじゃないを言ったら変な人が現れるだけ。
Li-ION はEVに合わないと思う。もっといいバッテリーができたら日本もEVを作ると思う。
This makes sense if you consider the fact that it's only now that their Government is beginning to phase out Fax machines and floppy disks from being in their local and central government's. Japanese society seem to very nostalgic. Which from eco perspective that is good for the environment. Means that they are not wasteful and will aim to look after and maintain their possessions before replacing them. I also love the fact we see many of the classic JDM cars like RX7, NSX and R34s still being driven on the roads.
NitrousXProductions Not wasteful? Every vegetable is individually wrapped in plastic. The government has even tried to stop this, but everyone rebelled! Single use plastic bags have been banned in Australia for a few years now, and the ocean and the future is thankful.
Or you know EV is not an "all-size solution" to "real" people's problems, the same situation in NY where people don't actually own garage and park in different spots every day. Also, the range anxiety is always there, charge two hours between your destination (that if you found a charging station) or spend 5 minutes at the gas station?
It was a massive change from horse and buggies to ICE cars 100 years ago. We’re going through a similar transformation now.
Electric cars were running around in 1830 bruh. Same problem then as now except they're blowing up nowadays 😂
Most people do not want to adopt electric cars. It's a very slow adoption because it's just not as good and convenient as ice cars
EVs aren't that different to regular ICE vehicles in terms of capabilities. All it did is change the fuel source and internals, outside of that, it's legit just the same 4 wheeled metal box that moves people along a road.
@madensmith7014 you clearly have not lived in different parts of the world to see the application and use case for ice vs ev can be totally different
Paying more money for a tool that is not as good at doing the job as the one I already have, just doesn't make any sense🙃
Very informative. Thanks. This is the first on the ground reporting that I have seen.
Its amazing how so many people seem to hate mentioning the Nissan Leaf was the first mass produced EV. A hybrid vehicle is not an EV.
A hybrid is definitely the most practical, better than plain EV only.
Great presentation, detailed insight and commentary. Keep up the good work!
Here is what I’ve learned living in a major city in Japan: It’s rare to see an EV or an EV charging station in the city. I am sure there are some, but they are difficult to come by and difficult to spot. I would guess the reason they are not more common here is that they are very expensive to install in most homes. Not only that, but also the garages here are much smaller than those found overseas, which leaves very little room for storage, much less a charging station.
probably the plethora of public transport, with the fact that most EV charging is at home but most people living in apartaments
They reject EVs because they have to no battery manufacturing on the scale for EVs. Japanese would rather get battery tech from local companies like Panasonic and use their current technology than to buy large battery packs from companies like BYD. They want EVs, it's just that they know they will end up killing their own peers from other Japanese companies faster. So they are delaying the inevitable and hope things will turn around but I think EVs will be the future. They are also buying time so that Panasonic and other battery manufacturers of Japan can get their tech up to car level battery packs and compete with China battery manufacturers
Actually Japanese people only buy their country car. You go Japan will see more than 99% Japanese car on the road.
Time to avoid Japanese cars.
@@Reddylion highly unlikely since toyota doesn't just make cars but trucks and other motor related products they also make cars for drag racing and look at their trucks they are soo good they are back bones of rebel groups around the world while byd is only making ev cars which is good for the people but if japan decides to make evs they would be overtaken
@@engineergaming3043当电车的原材料、知识产权和供应链被分配完毕以后，这个游戏可不是你想入局就能入局的了。另外，一个靠全球化壮大起来的国家，只买自己生产的东西，这听起来简直就是个笑话。
4.4mil yen? For a Chinese car? Yeah, that's not really going to sell in Japan. Maybe if it was 2mil JPY it would attract more customers. Even Korean cars really don't exist in Japan, I've seen 2 or 3 Hyundai in total in my 30 years here, and at least one of them was a South Korean diplomatic car.
Chinese car far better than Korean and jap car
@@numpopo lol
4.4mill is not high, after counting subsidize from gov, the total price become around 3.4 mill.. compare to ICE compact car it is affordable.. even more if u compare to new prius or bz4x it is totally affordable
@@hendrakho1710 Base Prius in Japan is 3.2m JPY, including tax. There will be very, very, VERY few Japanese who would spend that much on a Chinese car in today's world. Even Hyundai has an almost impossible time selling cars here, I have seen exactly ONE of their new electrics in Tokyo.
Same thing would be if you go to Korea or China. You'll barely see any toyotas or honda
The saying goes: Japan is living in the future
The problem is, that future is the year 2000, and this saying has been around since the 1990s.
In other words, Japan has been stuck in a time-bubble for the past 20+ years. Forget about the "lost decade". We need to add a S to decades.
Let’s remember that Japan was once a pioneer in EVs. If anyone would know what it’s like to push EVs, it’ll be Japan, and that’s why they could foresee the downfall of EVs because it all pre played in Japan first. Japan is living in the future because they predicted the fall of EVs by FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE.
@@mrgurulittle7000Bullshit! The future that you're talking is Hydrogen Enggine that goes to nowhere for two decades!!
@@mrgurulittle7000lol
@@mrgurulittle7000when did japan ever pushed for ev?
@@habub500Nissan leaf?
Honestly do we truly save the world by changing to EV cars?
This is a political game, and the Earth's climate does not need to be saved by humans, because before the emergence of humans, the Earth had already experienced five mass extinctions, and the environment was even worse than it is now. Now, the 1.1 billion people in Western countries have taken 44% of carbon emissions rights, while the other 5.5 billion people have 56% of carbon emissions rights. This means that if you want to develop industry, you need to spend money to purchase emission rights
Honestly, no especially if you live in the area where the materials for battery are mined, like Indonesia.. environment damage disaster.. so green for you, hell for them
I'm of the belief that China is hoodwinking the globe into buying the over abundance of EV cars nobody is prepared for. Also I think Japan is more conservative and sober in their planning. The car industry has been a major player in our world economy but all I see is China destabilizing it. We will buy the right car with the right technology that fits a sustainable future. EV cars make sense for rental or fleet cars right now but possibly Japan doesn't ses putting the entire world population behind the wheel of electric cars a viable option. Who knows?
It's in it's infancy right now.
Nope ! The opposite's true unless your energy supply is nuclear !
Yes!
I can't argue with how the Japanese view and make cars. I live in the US and I have a Toyota and Honda that I bought brand new 5 years ago. Both are amazing cars are are very fuel efficient especially when you consider the horsepower they produce. They are not hybrids and are not electric. They have given me zero problems and next month is my last payment for my Toyota and I will be done paying off my Honda soon after that. Because of this it will be like an automatic raise from my job because I will no longer have a car payment and both cars run better than the day I bought them. I am looking forward to owning them many more years trouble free years to come.
My Honda Civic is so special to me I am never selling that car and will give it to my children. One problem with EVs is that many will not outlast the payments making them a bad financial investment for the buyer. Both my Toyota and Honda still hold their value today with my Honda being worth more money than when I bought it so if I absolutely needed cash right now I could get good money from both of my cars. You just can't say that about a used EV.
US market,ev vehicle is a trend to use or not? I means,people prefer to buy ev or not?
Hondas are the best.
Yeah you should try buy mazda
当你听到这种话从“资本主义国家”的人嘴里说出来的时候，你就知道肯定有什么地方出问题了
Japanese work 14 hours per day and 6 days a week , they don't want to waste time charging their car
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All that time on work, while the economy is still stagnant lol
@@chateytung also only people in countryside have more car🤣 not like in Metro City with mass transportation
Japanese here.
In short EVs can’t meet standards most people here have.
Here is my take:
1) Japanese people don’t “reject” EVs. They are just not competitive enough to win buyers, because:
2) The first priority here is cost effectiveness. EVs are simply expensive to buy.
You need to double your budget compared to similar cars with an engine. This is a dealbreaker for most people.
Also the value declines very fast due to battery degradation. Few buy EVs second hand and it is considered as a stupid choice.
3) So many compromises compared to car with ICE. You need to wait half an hour to fully recharge. You need to install a charger (it is so expensive you can buy another used car!) if you want to avoid the infrastructure problem. You need to deal with battery degradation, and swapping batteries is expensive.
4) Poor protection against accidents made EVs unpopular. Many Japanese people fear battery explosion when EVs crash. (This is somewhat irrational because no one questioned the same to HVs…)
5) There are still doubts for the quality of Chinese or Korean products quality.
So many Japanese people don’t trust them, especially when accidents easily become fatal.
6) Not a few people doubt how ecological EV is. Zero emission is considered as a fancy “lie” (too much energy consumption to produce batteries).
Very good comprehensive feedback.
I also want to add that Japan gets very hot and very cold in almost all prefectures.
Heat management is very poor in EVs unlike ICEs, where to both heat and cool the car a lot of energy needs to be expended.
In the prefectures where the majority of vehicle sales volume occur, there are fewer charging infrastructure meaning the EVs are not practical especially when taking into considerations the heat management topic I mentioned above.
@@kakkeeyatsu Agreed. In Hokkaido (the northernmost prefecture), even HVs are considered as a bad choice since most cars go at cruising speed and heaters in EV consume quite a few energy, making EV less efficient.
This is so detailed! Thank you for the information. It's always nice to know more😁
People in EVs (wel built) are more protected than in an ICE car, as EVs have tougher structures. For example Zeekr, super strong and zero fire. But BYD not that premium.
Only seen 3 TESLAs here in the last 5 years in TKO, thinking how lucky I was to see such a rare breed. While the electric postal scooter sightings are often.
Go to Tokyo pal, the Model Y is used by one of the taxi companies and ply the streets in black color scheme
One of the posiible reason is Japan's years of cultural development, they are inclined to see non-japanese as Ganji means alien in everything. My opinion is this can lead to become doggedly & blindly be too loyal. To be different or stand out can rock the status quo. This mindset can be good and can be bad, this make a big difference in their choices.
This isn’t true. iPhones out sell Japanese phones, and European luxury goods outsell domestic luxury goods. So it isn’t true that Japanese just blindly hate foreign stuff. The fact is Japanese cars are well known for quality so they prefer their own cars.
@jamesl.o.h.6000
I could see that playing a part in it for sure but i think the biggest reason is just that the Japanese do indeed make the best and most reliable cars so it isn't merely blind nationalism.
This guy missed the EV best seller of Japan = Nissan Sakura, the car of the year 2023, the first commercially successful EV of Japan is not only an EV but also a Kei EV.
The only BYD that can compete with Sakura is BYD Seagull. Because, not just the Japanese, ppl worldwide want affordable Kei class size ultra efficient EVs. Not fullsize waste of money.
Isn't Japan have a very very good public transport?
Japanese choice Japan car. Chinese choice China car. America choice US car. This seem very fair to me. 😂😂😂
No, you are dead wrong. US chose cars from every country except China, because U.S. is afraid China will be bigger in GDP than U.S. China let her people chose cars without discrimination, depending on the market force. It’s only Japan and Korea that only select cars produced by their own.
@@mtcnew8353yeah bc us and china have bad relationship rn
@@mtcnew8353also bs.... China is heavily subsidizing domestic sale of domestic cars....
I do not like crap stories that is the point....
Byd is saviour for consumers around the world, hopefully prices will drop even more...
US is not afraid. They don’t want to give fuel to the dictator. Also China will never exceed US in GDP. Besides. You can’t even trust their reported numbers.
Saying China subsidizes their car industry is like saying other countries didn't does it.
Japan after getting bombed by 2 nuclear weapons by American imperialist,they choose to admire the perpetrators rather making distance with it .. Japanese society no double run in low steam
BYD is not the leading EV brand in Japan. Why didn’t you visit Tesla instead?
Cos he speaks with a Mainland Chinese accent ….
@@ddnn974 guy's from Singapore
Love your channel bro. I just subbed
Please review more BYD PHEV vs Japanese HEVs
Thanks for the sub!
I wonder why would japanese buy BYD tofu dreg cars when their national cars are way better and more reliable, i own a Honda and that thing hardly needs maintanance.
But that maintenance and gasoline cost a lot more than it cost to operate an EV.
Because your car a parked , no mileage.
There are many Japanese cars on the road that looked like sardines cans. Maybe the Japanese are tiny.Wonder how safe there are!!! Japanese car manufacturers have been giving false data's and certification. Many recalls on Toyota and Mazda.
My family went through multiple iterations of japanese cars (Honda, Mitsubishi, Toyota, Honda) and also own a BYD. I wouldn't say Toyota and Honda are much better than BYD.
I agree that they don't need as much maintenance as Ford and BMW, though.
maybe you should be more open minded?? not all hondas are reliable and not all chinese cars are "tofu dregs"??
the japanese are not stupid they know EVs are overpriced dangerous garbage.
😂😂😂😂
....such a sweeping juvenile statement.
Chinese EVs are pieces of crap built with low-quality materials. If you care about safety, avoid it at all costs. There are many videos showing Chinese EVs exploding.
That was the hybrids and problem ones. BYD blade batteries using the LFP chemistry should be fine, some of the safest.
Jealousy should not be a concern to EV buyers ya
Tons of videos about that. I saw a video where one guy's car started accelerating and his breaks weren't working. He crashed into traffic. The alarming part of the video was that it was a dash cam so it was like sitting in the drivers seat.
my dad lived in japan for 5 yrs as a uni student until he worked, not only does he have no reason to buy an electric car, he doesn't even have a reason to own a car, and that was in the early 2000s
The entire Japanese Auto Industry and economy will pay hard in a few years...
それ数年前も言ってたよね
There are videos in Japan where they can rent a small EV, to go places and charge-park it on another station. This means Japan already uses EV before it became a trend, but for convenient short distances only.
Nissan and Mitsubishi kei car... the sakura / ek x ev. Top selling ev.😅 kei car still favorit.
Our generation is just broke. We can't afford any vehicle. Kei cars sell well because it's the cheapest in the market. Even then it's still a hard sell.
Interesting , Thank You
In Japan, old people have money. But young people don't have it. Politicians are to blame.
I'm from the philippines.i see changes in trend about the car here little by little i see electric car here most if them are BYD TESLA BMW HYUNDAI!
Let's see if BYD cars will last 300,000km
A ton of BYDs are used as taxis in China.. Google it. so the answer is.. certainly
Try one million
why not?
@@hendrakho1710don't waste your time on trolls / haters😊
@hendrakho1710 well because it's made in China. Most of the world but China knows made in China is cheaply made.
interesting take from Japanese perspective... but Toyota is an 800lb gorilla and Japan invested 80 years building the best gas powered cars in the world and will continue to do so in the future... I understand why there's no "rush" to EVs... they understand the complexity, even expressed their admiration for the best player in space (Tesla) and didn't rush in w/ short sighted arrogance like GM, Ford, Dodge, even VW, etc... They didn't under estimate what Tesla had accomplished...
Most Japanese realise the pollution came with cars batteries, that is why the whole country is looking onto hydrogen fuel
第一，生产石油和生产电池可能都会产生污染，但是当汽车行驶在路上的时候，你猜哪一个还在继续产生污染？第二，至少在当下，氢气的生产不产生污染吗？最后，当你认为普及充电设施成本太高了的时候，你觉得普及加氢设施，能低多少？
@zhangguai on one condition, only if your countries' electricity is generated by renewable energy, even Nuclear energy is not renewable by definition so you are just shifting nuclear waste to the ocean causing more harm than fossil fuel
2025 BYD DMI with 2000km should be popular in Japan if there's a smaller version to fit the living environment there.
Japan is right to refuse Chinese electric cars. They have enough qualifications to develop their own cars. I agree with Japan.
Not true. Toyota ev BZ4 is a collaboration with BYD.
Japan sells millions of cars in China every year, and then refuses Chinese electric vehicles, which is an unequal trade relationship
It could also have something to do with styling and build quality. Chinese build quality and engineering still has a low status despite their dominance of the electronic goods market.
As for styling, Chinese cars tend to use poor interior materials and Try to make up for this build quality deficit by throwing in lots of tech and pointless ‘quirks’.
This doesn’t necessarily appeal to the Japanese or other markets when people want cars that, at least, feel like they’ll last 200,000+km.
Then there’s resale value, a new untested brand from a country with this type of reputation will struggle to hold value against other established brands, even if those cars are mostly made in China anyway.
Finally there’s chinas reputation for poor human rights. When you hear China is using slave and prison labour to build its products, when you see crackdowns on democracy and political dissent, are you actually going to feel good spending 30-40,000 on a car from such a country? A purchase such as this is as much a purchase of the heart as it is one of the head.
The main thing about Japan is they have brains and don't easily buy into hype, unlike most countries. The Japan consumer cares about Function over Form, and won't commit to something unless they're sure it'll work for them. Toyota, For example, has infamously not embraced EVs, Not because they can't or are behind the curve, But because they Don't Believe in the EV Future fundamentally. They think Hydrogen is a much more viable sustainable energy alternative technology, and that Hybrids (where you're using Electricity to Extend Gas Mileage as opposed to eliminating it all together).
And that's because they ARE. Look at the plethora of Issues coming to light with EVs in the US -- Huge issues with Cold Weather and Charging/Range (Usability issues). Huge issues with EV Battery Fires (Safety Issues). Huge issues with Repairability (Insurance and Maintenance/Repair Cost Issues). Huge Issues with Manufacturing -- 90% of the world's lithium comes from China, Making EV Car Manufacturers dependent on China, which most countries don't want (GeoPolitical Issues). Concerns over the Amount of Energy Needed -- If we need more energy for large scale adoption of EVs than we can produce with Renewable Methods, then we're not actually accomplishing ANYTHING by switching to EVs, We're just using Fossil Fuels to make the Electricity instead of directly putting them into the engine (Environmental Issues). And we're seeing with the Cybertruck and Tesla Semi (which convenient nobody is talking about anymore) that EVs for Carrying loads are insanely impractical (Workload Issues) . Not to mention the snake oil being sold regarding the technology, where the range is "theoretically" 500 miles on a charge, But you loose 40% of the range just from the normal charging range 20% to 80%, and further depending on extreme temperatures, age of the EV, Driving Style, Load, etc, and in the end you're only getting 100 Miles of the advertised 500.
Take all these issues as a single package, And the Japanese collectively and rightly say "Maybe this EV future isn't the smartest thing", and instead 1) stick to the tried and true technologies of the current and previous decades (ICE and Hybrid vehicles) , and 2) invest into future technologies that don't have ALL of these downfalls that we see with EVS (Hydrogen, etc).
Japanese, Unlike many consumers in most other places in the planet, Have some ACTUAL Intelligence when it comes to this kind of stuff, and that boggles the minds of many who just can't comprehend intelligent decision making.
When the fox can’t get the grapes it says that because the grape is sour
But you forgot to mention that EV motors are 90%+ efficient. And new battery technologies without lithium are on their way. And being beside an hydrogen tank is like having a bomb near you.
Tried and true technology: fax machines 😂
Rofl tell that to all the Japanese car companies shuttering their factories in China as their sales in the largest market in the world tanked year on year as they do not have a viable EV offering for that market, also there is not a single Japanese battery maker of note, the Chinese and Koreans dominate. The issue with EV adoption is the requirement to build new infrastructure to support deployment and you gotta start somewhere, if you never start, you will still be in the same spot a decade later. China has decided EV is their future and spent the last decade investing on that infrastructure so all the complains of no charging stations, no service centres, range, etc., has pretty much gone away. Most of ASEAN countries have also in last few years decided that EV is also their future and there are lots of infrastructure activities to have this change progress every year.
The one thing nobody talks about is noise pollution as well as air pollution in densely populated areas. I for one would love to have all that noise and air pollution moved somewhere else where it impacts the less number of people. I live in a small city of 12 million people, no I’m not in China, and it would be nice if those millions of cars spewing smoke in our daily traffic jams are all quiet and not spewing smoke in a densely populated small city.
You forgot "first-mover advantage". You should be at the forefront, constantly improve the tech, and get the fruits when it is mature. You are disguising laggards as "safety/reliability lover". Why need 5G network, one can wait til 100G network and start deploying accordingly?
I recently viewed another video about the shortage of charging stations in Japan is one of the main factors in lackluster EV sales. In the video, an EV owner attempting to take a trip out of the city was frustrated and stressed by inoperative charging stations when he needed to recharge. Some station operators had gone out of business due to high operating costs and inadequate return on their money and their now useless installations were abandoned but they weren't removed from the list of charging stations. Luckily, he was able to finish the trip, but the stress from range anxiety took a toll on him.
Infrastructure has to keep up with the sales. But maybe they just don't want to build more chargers.
during my 3 weeks in japan in Jan 24, i only saw one full electric car.... a Tesla Y
I saw ten Model Y taxis in four days 😂
A simple high temperature in Japan can create a energy crisis cause many peoples start using Air Conditionair..Imagine peoples using Electric cars..
China... # 1 in EV cars, head of BRICS, biggest project on the planet (belt & road), only nation with world class space station, manufacturing capital of the world, major infrastructure projects world wide, 5000 years of recorded history, # 1 in A.I., biotech, science, math, computer, etc. longest uninterrupted history, oldest surviving civilization & richest nation 1500 years ago, as well as the richest nation on the planet today. no other nation even came close. what china did this last 50 years was ground braking, albeit this next 50 years will be even more astonishing. this next generation is western educated, world traveled & they think outside the box. brave new world indeed...
also all dystopian future movies depict the environment as an always-raining chinatown.
no souls can stop china's rise....
@@rpgfightin4ever these days, its all china now...
Good intersting information concisely told.Eric 78 years old in England
Chinese EV brands should be extremely happy after watching this video as well as reading the comments here. This means the Japanese legacy car brands will not make EVs to compete with them. They will be able to capture market share country to country in the absence of Japanese car brands.
EVs are selling like hot cars in many countries around the world, growing 30%, 50% or even 80% year on year. Toyota, Honda, Nissan etc.. are losing market share massively in these countries right now.
In the bigest markets EVs are death.
Love Japan. the dondt wanne to run by China..
Japanese Car companies are next,
Nokia, Kodak or Blackberry.
hahahahaahahahahah
Laugh my ass off. Japanese won out with the hybrid boom of 2024. EVs are dead after 2023. They were dead and Japan knew it because they were the earliest adopters of EVs. Listen to the experienced.
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Akio Toyoda is laughing because he just toppled over the scam EV industry and is making shit loads of money. RIP Tesla and BYD.
Akio Toyoda is laughing because he just toppled over the scam EV industry and is making shit loads of money. RIP Tesla and BYD.
It's strange that Japanese don't give a crap about polutions while Japan has nucleus power and technology inovations to simply and easily mass produce EVs.
Too much sunk cost bias and rev heads at the top, they need to try the power of an EV, hopefully some of the Japanese auto brands will make it.
Evs suck. Japanese winters are cold, so the evs will crap on the road. They have super cheap alternatives. Toyota has a truck priced at 10kUSD. Why would they buy overpriced evs?
Yeah, you are using Ev but most electricity comes from coal and nuclear, seems clean
@@kealeradecal6091 Japan shouldn't be deficient in power, they should have a lot of thermal, solar thermal, tidal, wave, solar and wind power. Depends where you live, some states run completely on renewables at times, this will only get better. If you have solar on your house and charge the EV during the day, it's definitely green energy.
You may not know that Japan's low-quality nuclear power plant exploded, but you need to have a detailed understanding of how the Fukushima nuclear power plant cut corners.Half a month ago, another nuclear power plant in Japan caught fire
EV in Japan is been hurt by the lack of government push for such kind of mobility, I suppose. Unlike major EU car brands and few US cars, for some reasons mixed by consumers /government decisions haven’t yet fully embraced EV. Debates still exist on whatever EV is truly the future while other alternatives are developed including in China despite its clear technological advances on this topic. Guess we are still in the balancing cycle and a firm trend has emerged yet. Hence the moderate /mitigate consumers attitude
EVs are one of the technologies that will power the cars of the future. However it will not be the only one. Hydrogen fuel cells will be another technology.
EVs now are in their teenage years whereas hydrogen is in its infancy.
However there will be situations where hydrogen will be a better fit than EVs. For example in dense urbanised cities where people live in apartments and can’t have a home charger, they may opt for a hydrogen car as opposed to an EV. Also along lot of the existing infrastructure that stores and delivers oil and liquified gas, could be repurposed for hydrogen.
@@IMAN7THRYLOShydrogen is too volatile to make, store, transport, then store again, after a couple of refills, they need to fill the big tank again. For people in apartments or those who don't want to worry about the battery they go with NIO battery swap, 4 minutes and EV is full, choose the size of battery. Maybe this will work in Japan.
@@flukeylukey7559 NIO is a Chinese car manufacturer with almost no presence outside China. Battery swap is a great idea that it should be regulated and standardised.
A battery pack should be able to work in a vendor neutral way. Think AA batteries for example that work in any device that can hold them.
@@IMAN7THRYLOS I don't know what is the parameter for the swap but I wonder if this idea can work long term. Given the cost of the battery, how it has been used, I wonder how long the car manufacturer can keep up with the free battery life for the customer.
EV cars can improve further, but people tend to ignore that if they really want this to stick, they need to focus on EV charging infrastructure.
Electric Energy Generation in Japan is over 75% Coal and diesel and other petroleum fuel.
Why No Solarpanels in Japan??? 🙈🙈🙈
Bro. They use nuclear. Coal power plant are less than 30%
@@habub500 They pulled back from nukes after that tsunami hit Fukushima in 2011, they shut down all nuke powerplants for safety inspections.
In 2020, out of 54 nuclear reactors in Japan, 42 were operable but only 9 reactors in 5 power plants were actually operating. 24 were set to be decommission..
26 reactors have applied for restarting, 12 will be up by 2025, another 6 by 2030.
In India japanese cars are manufacturing CNG cars and are selling very well. The same goes with Hyundai. India too has the same problem like Japan, i.e less access to personal parking
I hope Japan brings new technologies Cars really love japanese cars It would be a shame to see them loose the market 🥲
China controls battery supply, R&D & mfg. They're also very good on SW which is vital to EV. Japan has no advantage in EV in comparison.
china is the future... with love from brazil.
That's Japan's choice, they could've had more than a half hearted attempt at EVs. Government and Toyota wants hydrogen, tell them they're dreaming 💤
@@raymonddon8875 China is not the future as long as she still has an authoritarian regime! LOL
@@flukeylukey7559 A hydrogen car is basically like sitting on a bomb.
I wouldn’t think Japan would let any BYD cars come into their country.
It's normal
I would take a corolla hybrid over ANY byd car, no matter the price difference.
That's because you're a 🤡
Here in 🇧🇷, I've been witnessing Land Rover, Audi, BMW, Volvo, Jeep, Honda customers tradinh their cars for BYD. A 🇧🇷 billionaire, Eike Batista, who is a car lover and who has Porsche, Ferrari, Mercedes Benz etc is now the happy owner of a BYD Seal. It's funny to realize that 🇧🇷 has more electric cars, EVs, PHEVs options that Japan and 🇺🇸. Brazilian🇧🇷 loves technology! ❤️😍❤️
It is easier and cheaper to get a local car serviced locally.
BYD Samurai to expand in Nippon.
Japan focuses on minimalism and efficiency. Busy work scheduled make charging an ev for hours a terrible drawback.
Made in China products are well known world wide as bad quality. While made in Japan products are known to be of high quality. Even the Chinese in China are complaining about how bad BYD cars are.
Meanwhile, BYD is no 1 here in Asean by a wide margin. They are everywhere when there was none a year ago. People here want affordable and reliable evs. Not pricey European brands.Japanese evs are non-existent.
95% of everything you known is Made in China, so 95% of everything that you own is low quality?
Products made in Germany are known worldwide for their poor quality. The products made in the UK are renowned for their high quality. Even Germany is complaining about how bad German products are. (Bringing you a news article from August 1887)
How on earth are they bad? Tesla uses BYD batteries. American propaganda industry is making it up
@@妮姆芙-o3zInteresting
if you look at private imports you should see more people going to EVs as well, as the Wulin Mini EV has been quite popular in Japan along with the BYD seagull, both are much cheaper to purchase. Also the two have a relatively big customization culture
similarly in countries where public transport is more convenient than having a car or most people are living in apartment. Those who can afford cars are those rich people and they don' t care about saving on petrol or if they buy EV, they will consider buying Merc/BMW/Audi, rather than BYD!! hence chinese EV sales will be low!!
The reason is that Japan has a large supply chain in gasoline car industry, too many people to feed, and can't afford to just have all those companies die out and that many people losing their job.
Also, it is because that the Key to the smart EVs, is the 'SMART', or data. But the Europe and Japan are just way behind in the mobile internet days. They are all using apps and platforms from the US, they don't have their own apps, they don't have the access to the data, so they don't do very well in the SMART part.
And even if they could overcome all those mentioned above, their relationship with the States could just kill all the possibilities. If you can not have your own independent industrial strategy, nothing could be done.
I always see Chinese driving Japanese cars and German cars. I'm sorry I just never saw a Chinese driving a Chinese car in my life.
Then ur eyes are closed .. i see Americans , Japanese , Dutch everyone drive chinese cars .
a channel only features chinese cars? not bias at all. why is it even in my feed
simple answer bc ive been to japan aswell is that they really respect their rules when it comes to emission and really take care their cars when you go there and one car passes you wont even hear the noise and wont even smell the burnt fuel so basicly japan is a perfect example if you want to have a clean air enviroment utopia you dont need to change to ev
这只是个错觉，一箱50L的汽油消耗完，他们变成了什么？看不到的是会产生100公斤的二氧化碳，全世界的负担！
你所认为的环保，比如日本欧洲，其实真实的内幕是，他们只处理好处理的污染，难处理的东西都转运到发展中国家，世界废塑料出口第一的是德国，第二是日本！
Could you please lover the background music while you're narrating? English isn't my first language and listening to you is quite a challenge
Both Tesla and BYD have fallen on hard times in Japan. Few people are interested in them because they take a long time to recharge and replacing batteries is expensive. Unless battery performance improves dramatically, the company will probably operate at a loss even if it enters the Japanese market.
could you make the music go louder? i can still hear some voices over it.
Without suitable charging infrastructure EV's will never work in any area
Where I live there is ample enroute charging.
And also how much time it takes to charge that is the most important thing for so many people.
Poor you.
@@naturewonderslive4169 If you charge at home overnight the time it takes to charge is inconsequential.
All will go for Ev will when price of pertol up x5........
BYD: Burn Your Dreams
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Just one question … can EV increase survive rate in natural disaster ? Japanese is well train for that and they know what is good for their life.
For survival you need new generation in which japanese currently lack.
Byd is a walking power bank.
@@soowo5942 then where those power bank get the power ? I just need few mins to fill up the tank but how much time u need to charge?
@@Extravaganza50667 also byd is more known for its hybrid cars.
@@soowo5942 then u already told urself … u still needs petrol…😂😂😂
Up to 5 years ago say, there was a per-mile cost in favour of EVs, if you accepted that charging at home was ‘normal’. There’s never been an argument that EVs were more comfortable in terms of cabin temperature capability - and that remains to this day. If we were to cost the price per kWh for heating the cabin of a vehicle, to THE SAME LEVEL AS AN ICE CAR, the high cost of battery capacity, the massive loss of range to heat the vehicle as much as a fossil-fuel car would be, etc, all hit against EVs. Now as energy has shot up in price in the UK where I live, either you make your home into a power station, and make 90% of your trips using that home-generated energy, or simply don’t buy an EV.
This still leaves the frozen-feet issue I have experienced both in a Nissan and a Tesla Model Y as a deal-breaker for EVs in my opinion. I think in some ways, the battery energy density has still not reached the necessary performance level and yet the fevered PR of several different battery innovations continually imply they will all arrive very, very, very soon! But they don’t. I haven’t even seen anyone with a new Tesla battery cell design showing it on youtube or anything…it’s perfectly possible, by the time the EV is price-comparable to fossil fuel cars, motoring will be an over-regulated bore. ?! Take care all.
Reject the change and the coming of a new era will make Japanese eat the bitter fruits. Japanese can't accept that BYD has become the No. 1 EV's maker and China has overtaken Japan as the
world's No. 1 cars exporter. Their narrow-minded mindset wil lead them to nowhere.
Thanks for the video. Here where I live in the USA it's basically the same thing. EV's are not popular at all. Most people here seem to like SUVS and pickup trucks the most. The most popular SUVS are Japanese Brands.
Remember if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it, nothing wrong with current ICE cars, and if people don’t want them, don’t force it on them. 😳👍🇦🇺
Surprised, BYD didnt bring in its whole lineup. BYD started selling officially here in the phils in 2024. They brought in the entire lineup. And the best selling model is the sealion which has an SUV inspired design. It only cost as much as mid range toyota corolla. The cute seagull cost as much as the cheapest susuki model. Though both countries have the same problem with charging stations. Some gas stations has charging stations as well as shopping malls. But you can also charge them at home. At the current rate, BYD sales will outpace many ICE brands next year. Nissan are selling its Leaf here but its 60% more expensive than the most expensive BYDs
This is an incredibly interesting video! Japan is definitely the furthest behind in terms of technology adoption out of all developed countries (and many developing countries) globally.
Japan has lost their lead in most industries, such as home appliances and rechargeable batteries, over the past few decades, so you would think that they would want to stay focused on keeping a foothold in an industry that they still do well in (automotive). Sad to see that they are moving slow, but not surpising.
Hopefully they are able to maintain their large presence in automotive globally. I have doubts.
Thank you for this deep dive, Harris!
Japan is still very ahead in many advanced industries.
Yes,@@mrmarkl328.
I'm talking about technologies that are disruptive TODAY. Japan is ahead in biotech and some facets of AI research, but behind in many other areas (autonomous driving, EVs, humanoid robots, etc.).
if its cheap, they will buy it.don't worry mate. compare the price with other Japanese ICE cars. why shud spend so much on EV's? cant pretend to be Green when so much price difference..
Exactly,@@Lore-mn2xx!
I always give the Balmer Microsoft example as well; Nokia had to completely change industries because they failed to see the smartphone disruption.
I'm rooting for the Japanese automakers, but it's been tough for them. History repeats itself in various ways.
@@dennisd9804FYI Nokia was killed
Public transportation is way better than cars in cities.
Ban private cars from cities.
and much safer
BYD Hybrid lineup would be a great product in Japan because they have the Prius/Hybrid market there
Nissan has an EV Kei car. The Nissan Sakura.
Japan makes very reliable little gas & hybrid cars. Letting their domestic brands be overwhelmed by less expensive Chinese imports in their own market would be bad optics
In Japan you do not see many foreign made cars(counting in streets, probably 3-5% foreign cars imported in Japan). Media, nationalist and Government put tariffs on imported cars are the fundamental reason.
Japan doesn’t have any import tariffs on automobiles. Foreign cars are fairly niche because they’re not tailored or particularly well marketed to Japanese consumers.
There are few reasons that I think why BYD sale is not much. Japan is staking on Hydrogen instead of EV for green energy, that's why they are more into building hydrogen infrastructure instead of EV.
It's war, and chances of hydrogen winning is not pretty.
Remember back in the days when Japan insisted on deploying their own CDMA mobile phone network and totally excluded GSM? It eventually faded out of the market.
@@MMLL369 Nope. Hydrogen is here to stay. EU countries esp Germany consider Hydrogen fuel for trucks.
Secondly, current breakthroughs are happening to make the Hydrogen have the economical sensibility.
Let's revisit this conversation in 5 years shall we?
I think Japan dont rely on cars to transport people, so the people mostly bought cars for a hobby, EV is not for hobby
Chinese cars in Japan? I don't think that the EV thing is the biggest issue...
After sale service is the main strength of Toyota..
Toyota does not service vehicles. Their dealers do.
Let's face it they don't want a substandard BYD, that would probably burn their mansion down if they park off street. If they want an EV they would buy a Tesla.
Lmao.. BYDs use mostly LFPs which are much safer than the NMC chemistry in most Teslas. BYD's blade LFP batteries in particularly are the safest batteries in the world. Do educate yourself before making stupid comments.
@kevinlin4895 must be working well with all those fires 🔥 with BYD in China.
Are you a BYD sales rep in the West?
What fire? The ones in your imagination of an alternate reality? BYD blade batteries can be pierced with a nail and the temperature barely rises whereas NMC batteries like Panasonic's 4680 used in most Teslas would explode in a bonfire of pyrotechnics. Did you know that even Tesla sources batteries from BYD now? Google it. Or are you afraid of letting facts get in the way of your self-propagating delusion?
@@ausmartin1 people who go around spouting fire hazard about BYD while at the same time lauding Tesla are either woefully ignorant of basic EV battery chemistry facts or have a hidden agenda, the most obvious of which is an anti-China troll. Which one are you?
Tesla uses BYD blade batteries.
Evs are absolute scam shit, i don't recommend anyone regretting their wallet if they're planning on buying one of those DEATHTRAPS 😂😂
Not sure what scam you've been taken into but my EV sure ain't a scam.
From a Japanese perspective, I don't see much merit in forcibly switching to EVs now.
There are cars in front of us that are made by really successful manufacturers and don't break down at all.
Editing is always on point.
Very true. But why isn't Harris speaking Japanese and interviewing the locals? Why is he using an English name? The man is clearly Okinawan.