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There is Nothing wrong with the Chinese cars you can hardly tell the difference from the Western cars. This is NOT China 40 years ago. + check the New Lada and Volga and Moskvich. 2024. Who cares about VW or Nissan. so on.
@@Kruse1 Yea, our sanctions not only havnt touched their economy, BRICS+ filled in where the west left. May probably sanctioned ourselves by closing markets to ourself.
i love chinese cars, not because i'm gonna buy them. but as soon as the chinese cars enter market, all others legacy brands like toyota, honda, ford, hyundai, instantly cut prices 🤣
Same in Brasil and we couldnt be happier. Decent cars, fair price. European and American company suddenly dropped their prices to compete, byt a year ago they were saying they had no margin to drop and blamed on taxes. Lol. Now western companies are complaining about free markets and demanding higher taxes for chinese cars. Right Mr Musk?
I live in Moscow all my life. I do not have a car, never wanted a car and most possibly will never have one. Public transport is so much cheaper and convenient, shops are in walking distance. Delivery services working 24/7. Have to mention all this because sometimes it is difficult for US public to understand how unnecessary owning personal car in Russia is.
У меня машина появилась только в Европе, в Москве великолепно развит общественный транспорт и недорогие такси, быстрое метро, автобусы, троллейбусы и трамваи, машина была вообще не нужна и лишние расходы тоже.
I think the same, "if I live near the center of Moscow, why do I need a car?" Moscow's public transport is the best in the world, BUT now I'm thinking about buying a car because I bought my dacha on the outskirts 😂
@@samaya_lubimaya У меня есть машина, но выезжаю только за город, ты тупо можешь не успеть на работу поехав по москве на авто или вставать на пару часов раньше , хотя конечно стало лучше чем 10 лет назад, вообще закрой гараж в пробках можно бензобак спалить
What about the after sale service? Here in Kuwait Chinese cars are the most sold cars, but the problem is the servicing..... no third party garages work on them, all from the official dealership.
@@georgedang449But many in the west think that China are still playing catch-up. They caught up long ago and are now well beyond anything in the west.
In China Toyota and Volkswagen cars are sold very cheaply and their sales are getting lower and lower and not even competitive, but in the US and Europe these cars are not only sold at high prices but also sought after, so it can only be said that the western world does not have any advantage in the competition in the future.
The German auto industry is the first to die. But the future of the Japanese and American is also unenviable. The Russian car market today is what we will see in other countries tomorrow. It's just that Western companies committed suicide here in advance.
@@anlam1044 Chinese cars are out of this world - affordable, sleek design and futuristic. Russia should stick with Chinese cars and it is not a bad thing at all.
@@anlam1044 Under the hood of Western and Japanese cars are outdated and archaic ICE engines. It is a relic from the 20th century. Chinese EV cars are of very high quality but selling at affordable prices because Chinese production has achieved vertical integration from production efficiency with complete control of the supply chain. China's battery technology is also at another level where no other country can rival. Welcome to the 21st century. Note that this means Western and Japanese automakers who relied up to 30% of the Chinese market will be all gone in a few years. This is why Chinese EVs displayed at the Shanghai Auto show in 2023 sent shivers down the spine of US/European and Japanese automakers with their first reaction of shock, then fear and then angry as they know that they can never sell their ICE cars in China anymore in the very near future because they are behind Chinese EVs which they have neglected for too long. They have themselves to blame with their hubris arrogant. Looking down on the Chinese is their downfall.
You forgot LADA mechanic is simple, easy, and can be done 100% IN YOUR DRIVEWAY, I am so tired of my modern car that I can fix maximum 50% of what breaks from my garage. And LADA have parts EVERYWHERE, SAME DAY.
@@zxy8076 That's a lie, Siberia does not have 20% or less of what you can buy in Moscow. It's just that Siberian's have a soft ego and avoid reality. I understand, I come from a small town up north Canada and they react very much like Siberians. Don't say this, Don't say that, bla bla bla. Small and fragile ego in my town too. People prefer to live in dreams and lies, and tell themselves cutes stories for comfort. It's human nature.
@@ThereIsAlwaysaWay2Yo Homie, they’re very sensitive about Siberia especially Canadian guy is talking about their region. Greetings from Cincinnati, Ohio. I’m Russian.
The West leaving Russia has been a blessing for Russian businesses. They fill the void. China, being a strong supporter of Russia through thick and thin naturally also was allowed to flourish as well. That's perfectly fine and the growth of the multipolar world will enrich both nations much more going forward.
Chinese cars cost 3-4 times in Russia and have questionable quality. There is no blessing for Russian businesses, as they don't produce anything. Russia uses parallel imports for Western goods, which cost an arm and a leg. There is a shortage of everything, including advanced medicines, shortage of labor, and now gasoline for civilian cars.
America inadvertently helped pushed the multi polar world ahead by 10 years😂😂 the west is being pushed out of Africa through coups and now massive protest
Here in South Africa, the Haval Jolion is also the highest-selling Chinese car on our shores. While the top sellers are still Toyota, VW and Ford, the Chinese brands are making deep inroads to our market. And I am really glad for that for the increased choice and competition this brings to our market. Without this, we would be price-gouged by the legacy European brands. As the former owner of BMW, VW and Audis I have firsthand experience of this. My next car will be the Tank 300.
I am Italian, I bought a Lada Niva twenty years ago to go off-road on the roads of the Alps. It is not the car I use every day to go to work but it is still the car that gives me the most fun. It is not particularly reliable (moreover mine is 25 years old...) but it is very easy to repair even without the help of specific equipment. It is a car born for mud and dirt tracks, it does its job well now as it did in '77!
@@huskywr240 the key words there are "years ago" 😂 Years ago, people thought the VW Beetle, Fiat 500 and the Austin Mini were good, but by modern standards they're rubbish. The difference is, they're still making the Niva. They actually stopped production in 2021, but they started up again when the sanctions hit.
A few corrections to the video: 1. Ford has been out of the Russian market for quite a while even before the sanctions 2. Chinese cars are assembled in their own factories in Russia, or directly imported. Abandoned Western car factories in Russia are doing different things, but not a lot of car assembly actually. 3. Chinese cars in Russia cost more than in China because of the import tariffs. The lack of competition has nothing to do with it. 4. I was surprised Lada Vesta wasn't mentioned - the flagship model of Lada. Instead a very specific Niva Legend was talked about.
Yes, I had the same things on my mind. 1. Yes, Ford canceled sales of 3rd generation of Focus in 2017. They had problems with their factory , including strikes, long before sanctions. 2. True. For example, former Hyundai factory is assembling something called Solaris after Hyundai Solaris, Russian version of Accent / I30 line 3. Also true. Taxes as well some other reasons like pre-installation of alarm buttons (Era-Glonass) were a reason why most of automobile giants started to manufacture cars in Russia, as well as making "specific" models for the Russian market. 4. Indeed. Vesta is a good example of a new Russian car with more than 80% of parts made in Russia, a unique design, which makes it look good comparing to other B-class cars,produced in Russia prior to sanctions ! Although people may say that it has some "troubles", it's still a good car and a huge break through for Lada, which is known in the West for Niva or Classics' Lada, based on Fiat (e.g Lada.Riva), and nowadays it's quite modern.
after Russia joined the WTO in 2012, there is no more official tariff on imported cars.. but the Russian government still imposes 300,600 rubles (~3500$) recycling fee on every passenger car with an engine volume between 1.0 and 2.0 liters.. by the way, this recycling fee will be further increased starting from 1st of Oct this year.. however, the Russian government totally refunds the recycling fee for every car produced locally inside Russia.. so, one could think of the recycling fee as a form of tariff that protects Russian automakers from foreign competition..
I bought a Chinese TV here in the US... with all bells and whistles a qled 4k 46" TV cost me $500 while Samsung with the same specs is triple the price.. TCL
To be honest. But Chinese cars everywhere. Aus is full of Chinese brands. Haval, BYD, GWM Tank range etc. They provide better tech for a lower price and better maintenance/service plans.
Those Chinese cars he was talking about aren't even EV nor hybrids and outdated in China. So he isn't even testing the higher quality or top end Chinese cars but just label those low end car as "Chinese cars..." Very misleading or uninformed.
Shenzhen was one of the earliest cities to switch its taxis to electric vehicles, and it's now commonplace to see taxis with hundreds of thousands of kilometres on them, which speaks volumes about the reliability of Chinese-made cars.
I've owned a couple of old Mercedes years ago, they were built well enough but for a luxury car of their time they were very bog-standard, with very cheap feeling dogtooth interior.
@@fooleanperspective1426He's talking about "quality and cheap feeling to touch"...and he's right,my father is driving MB,not the same one but he's always buying E-class (before that W 124) and with every new "series" they deteriorate...yeah they look nice and flush but not so good quality...i owned CLS Shooting Brake and it had transmission problems with just 60k kilometers...
I just want to say I've seen every single video on this channel and it's not because of the content. I don't care about sanctions or cars but you're storytelling is off the charts good. I enjoy these videos on a ridiculous level. Keep up the good work. Молодец!
That guy is the type of seller everyone hates. Selling damaged cars and not telling anyone about it trying to make a quick profit at the expense of the buyers.
I agree he should tell (it's not clear if he doesn't, though), but if he does that and it's skillfully repaired, there are no real issues with it, me thinks.
I am from Malaysia. I got my Chery Tiggo 8 PRO in Feb 2024 for USD37,000. This similar model in China cost about half the price I paid. And mine is a castrated version without many features such as the HUD, zero-gravity seat, etc. Higher price mostly due to the local import tax. I am extremely happy with my new Chery. The quality is good. The Chinese are not stingy giving a lot of premium features which the Japanese can’t offer. And the after-sale service is very good. I also own a Honda Civic. I think the Honda service centre just want to suck my blood dry.
Niva is a great second car if you have a dacha. You drive from the city to the dacha in a minivan, and the next day you switch to Niva and drive to the forest, to the lakes, or to the river, without worrying about cross-country ability. Thanks for the work!
@@AniMageNeBy это не только загородный дом, но и огород, где можешь что-нибудь садить (например цветы или фрукты с овощами). А сходить потом искупаться на речку/озеро летом, мм.....настоящий кайф. Я живу в Смоленске, летом поехать на дачу - это удовольствие. Летом выдаются жаркие недели, когда температура по 33-35 градусов в тени, и после дачи нырнуть в озеро - это самое лучшее, что может быть в жизни. (А в городе ещё жарче, градусник стоит у меня, там утром когда солнце светит, 40 градусов).
I have owned BMW, Kia, Merc ,Nissan, Ford, Toyota , Buick ,VW , Honda and Hyundai and I like my current BYD seal EV the best being cute, cheap, hi tech , fast , comfortable well built , feel strong , functional , silent and never have to pay for petrol again !!!!!
Exactly- flush with revenues they will continue to innovate and make better cars. All western makers too made junk cars in the beginning and got better later on with their experience
For those of you not aware of how cameras work, that windscreen speedometer is not flickering for them, that's an artifact of filming it with a camera. To the human eye it looks steady. You'll see similar issues when cameras film computer screens, that's caused by the refresh rate compared to the camera's frame rate.
18:41 I am actually working in this business right now, exporting cars from China to Russia. To answer that question "why is it so expensive in Russia?", well, it is because the import tax & fees is around 48% right now in Russia. so, if the car is worth $10000, by the time it arrives the Russian dealership, the total cost is around $15000. besides, the Chinese seller and Russian dealer are expecting making some profit out of it, so the final price would be around $20000.
Is there any loopholes with the import tax? I’ve heard rumours of people in the far east importing cars from Korea and Japan cut in half for parts and then getting reassembled in Russia and used? Does the same tax apply to other vehicles like trucks, electric cars etc?
@@jackjoyce1744 *You have incorrect information! There is no loophole as such, but there is one peculiarity, if you buy a car from Japan, Korea or China for yourself personally, that is, as an individual, then you do not pay the recycling fee, but you do not have the right to sell the car for a year!*
@@UltraTotenkopf so for example, if I was living in say the far east, I import a car from Japan which is broken, I can fix it up and not pay import taxes on it?
Its very common at the central of Moscow! if you see beautiful girls driving them, thats because some rich man bought it for them, but if its an older woman in her 40s, then she worked for it 100%
I travelled in the rear seat of a C class merc once and I can officially tell you that it was the most uncomfortable ride I have ever taken in any vehicle! I hate mercs!
Why would anyone want a complex and unreliable Western car when there isn't the infrastructure to source spare parts and fix them when they inevitably break down or have serious software faults? The Niva is awesome... rugged, simple with no complex electronics, easy to maintain and spare parts are cheap.
They are rich people buying status. To improve sales of Jaguars in the West amidst the horrible reputation for quality that JLR has, they offered started offering best in class warranties. But they DIDN'T offer the same warranties for Land Rovers even though they have same piss poor reputation for breaking down. Why? Because people who buy Land Rovers just don't care. It is all about "status" and they don't care about the expensive repairs. Same thing with Western cars in Russia now. Look at the "dealer" in this video. Look at the way he dresses and carries himself. It is all about impressing rich clients that they are part of elite club.
@@mysteryileex5709 Lots of parts from western cars have chinese knock offs. You still can get original spare parts the same way you get cars, but knock offs are cheaper, by about a half.
Through this whole video: Bro really tried to put “Western” car manufacturers on a pedestal, whilst simultaneously tried to give some dumb backhanded “compliments” for Chinese ones. Essentially trying to paint them as market share robbers. Completely ignoring the fact that this has all to do with American “sanctions” which literally means nothing except giving chinese and many brands an insane once in a lifetime opportunity to rule a market without much effort.
@@someguy4512 Yes, so true. But if we all just do as we're told, isn't it just American sanctions again? I'm Canadian, we just matched all the US tariffs on China. We're just their hat.
@@jessec4677 this is why I said Western sanctions the sad reality is that you are right not just Canada its the west in general. U.S inherited UK's domain ( Australia New Zealand Canada) and added Europe as well plus south korea and Japan ( Nato in general ) its all under American thumb. when the war kicked off in around 2022 my French friends where some what pissed at America and their president, for he sold French companies like Astrom ( company that makes Trams and such) to the Americans and now its under American ownership, and also 2 century old German company that specializes in Metal refinery moved to America. also in more recent thing to happen Concentrix bought French call center webhelp. basically Americans are doing what the Soviets did to eastern Europe and especially eastern Germany after occupation except this time no one is talking about this nor batting an eye.
Chinese cars are taking over from European and America cars in many parts of the world. They look just as good, offer much longer warranties and are considerably cheaper. So much so that some countries are hitting them with tariffs to try and slow them down.
Because America Dont Want China To Grow And Become Number One Superpower,Because If It Happen Yuan Will Replace Dollar,And American Cannot Print Money As They Want!! What You Think Will Happen If America Cannot Print Dollar As They Like Can They Fund Military,Can They Pay Back Debt
If you set aside the stereotypes about Chinese cars, you'll see they offer great value for their price range, even though there are still some minor issues. For example, in Australia, many Chinese cars on the streets demonstrate that they can be trusted in developed regions. The U.S. imposes a 100% tariff on vehicle imports from China, which suggests that Chinese cars are very competitive. If Chinese electric vehicles were allowed in the U.S., they could potentially outcompete many traditional brands. In some developing countries, Chinese cars are already the top choice, and U.S. sanctions only accelerate this trend.
"which suggests that Chinese cars are very competitive". No it doesn't, it suggests they are hugely subsidised and built by workers earning a fraction of that in the EU or US.
indirectly sanctioned by the USA. rememeber when Turkey purchased russian S400 defense missiles, the US crashed the turkish liira 40% in 1 week. a lesson to any sovereign nation who makes domestic decisions best for their own people, not according to the world police state
There is simply no car in existence within this price range with the same off-road capabilities. The next competitor would be another Russian rugged military car UAZ Hunter which is +50% in price and eats over 20l of gasoline off-road. Or Suzuki Jimny which is more fuel efficient, a little less interior space, less capable off-road but costs 3x as much. I think I asked this question under over a dozen of YT Videos in which commentators ridiculed this car. Some suggested to buy a half dead, 20+ year old, used foreign brand models with over 300k km. But you can find a ton of videos here on YT where they compete against the Niva on the off-road and loose
@@cccpredarmy UAZ produces ambulances, and there are still settlements in Russia where it is impossible to drive except by off-road vehicles. "Niva" is not suitable for these purposes in any way
Situation with the chinese cars will go on exactly like the phones did. In 2013 everybody was laughing at chinese brands but in 2017 I got my first Huawei and never wanted to hear about other maker ever since. Car market is far more different and difficult than phones but attitude towards chinese brands will continue to change slowly but firmly all around the world. Most people don't realise most chinese makers are around from 50 to 70 years.
Your history is wrong but as Tesla and Volvo are mass producing cars in China, Chinese companies will soon learn how to copy and even improve on them especially when companies like SAIC / MG have design teams in the U.K. The same thing happened in Korea. A bunch of disgruntled British Leyland engineers went there to teach the Koreans how to make cars.
@@dennisrichards7994 What a dilemma. Buy a car from a vicious and human rights ignoring dictatorship, or a complete braindead egotistical muppet who just happens to be the richest man in the world? I'll stick to German, thanks.
Australia here. My postman who has a 290 km run, 3 times a week, drives a Chinese diesel crewcab 4WD ute he bought new and he swears its the best thing. Myself, being a Land Cruiser man, am a bit wary of anything I don't know, looked it over and had a drive of it. 240,000 km on the clock. Regular servicing and tyres. No Problems. Impressive. Just can't remember what brand it was. LDV?
I have a 3rd generation Haval H6 in China . Its a nice car when I bought it in 2021, But in today's perspective , Its a junk .Its expensive and lower performance compared to the cars selling in the market . You can buy a car that travel 1000km with 60L gasoline for 16k USD in China ,has big rotate screen ,360 view .etc everything you need for a good car.
22 thousand dollars for a brand new Haval suv is expensive? A new Dacia Duster costs the same in Portugal! And they are uncomparable in terms of equpment...
I am from Thailand. We use a lot of Chinese car too but mostly EV. The Chinese wage war try to swap Japanese out of the game so EV price here are very cheap just a little expensive then mainland China. However gasoline car are still bloody expensive here. I wish we have our own brand like Lada to sale cheap and no nonsense gasoline car here for people who think of a car like tools not passion. To this point because of technology drawback ev are for some people and not for everyone.
No own brand is not necessarily a bad thing for the public. You have no local brands to protect, then the imported brands will be cheap and you will have more choices.
If you have your own Thai brand, it'll be like Malay Proton. Have you driven Proton Saga? It's pretty bad. China is opening factories to assemble in Thailand. You'll get there.
Thailand got the most reliable vehicle, the bullock cart....The machine need to eat grass and drink water. Hardly break down and no need to visit pump stations.
I love your reporting! Pozdrav iz Zagreba!!! EDIT: my best friend had a Lada Niva, inside it was cold in winter, hot in the summer but the car was unstopable!!! We drove everwhere, even to te top of the high steep river banks :)
It’s kind wrong to think Chinese are making double profit, you need to consider transport and import cost plus also greedy shop dealers, I am sure in reality Chinese sell for the same sticker price maybe some typical marginal profit. The problem in Russian it’s not the brands but greediness from dealers. It was the same before sanctions as well.
Also the best tactics of dealers it’s to install some addons like alarm, better floor mats, etc with cost of let’s say 100,000₽ but sell the car ONLY with extra options for ₽500,000 on top of sticker price. And they won’t sell you the car if you don’t pay the extra options. This is why most people will not buy from big car dealers (also this was way before the sanctions).
Competition within China is fierce, and most brands want to explore overseas markets. The recognition of Chinese cars in overseas markets is still low. They can't sell vehicles at exorbitant prices. At least not for now.
hello from Kazakhstan! Western sanctions does not apply to us, however Chinese cars become best selling cars in my country. And the price also in two times higher than in China, but still cheaper than other not chinese brands.
i would like to point out one misleading thing at 17:15. Geely chevy and haval used to be main and leading car brands which produces traditional gasoline cars in China, and they sell pretty well before 2020 when new energy vehicles like BYD and other brands are becoming super competitive. So these brands like Geely are shifting to hybrids or electric in their latest models in China, but their gasoline models are still selling in China, especially in northern part of China where it's very cold, or western part of China where it's not very populated. You don't want to go to Beijing in search for dealership of gasoline cars because Beijing has almost stopped providing new registration plates for gasoline cars and hybrids these days ( yes, hybrids included), and even the registration plates for electric vehicles are strictly monitored. If you exclude Beijing and Shanghai, gasoline cars are still selling in China. In China these days , you can get whatever you want at decent price, gasoline, hybrids, electric, as long as you don't live in Beijing, where you can get nothing.
@@717pixels9 It's not "not providing", but in limited numbers, and all appliers have to go through a periodic lottery. According to news, in June 24th, 2024, Beijing held the first such lottery for ICEV and PHEV in 2024. 620k families (without cars) and 2.59m individuals applied for 5838 family plates and 3762 individual plates. You can calculate the chance. BEV plates is in another queue-based system. The estimated waiting time is calculated to be about 32 years in 2024.
Been to Beijing several times for the last decade. The place is very specific in terms of geography - being trapped down between nearby mountains it's a perfect place to keep polluted air not moving, like a soup in a plate. So I totally undrstand local authorities on strict switching from gasoline to electric cars - it's just a matter of a fresh air. But not every place in China has the same conditions.
There are many Geely 4S stores in Beijing, which are not very remote from the city center. Each store sells gasoline cars. I just bought a Geely Haoyue last year, so I am very aware of it.
Russia does not have the same EV infrastructure as China, so obviously they need to sell gasoline powered cars, at best hybrids. PS Regarding all the comments "EVs can't work in freezing weather comments", EVs in the near future will almost certainly have solid state batteries, not Lithium Ion batteries and therefore will be capable of working fine in freezing temperatures.
Wouldnt matter, EV vehicles cant take cold weather....they are useless in Russia. EV vehicles stop in the middle of the road if they get too cold....leaving you to die essentially...
@@EternallyGod по хорошему нужны гибриды, разработки ведутся обратите внимание на KAMAZ-6559 машина для промысла, но тем не менее.и у нас не круглогодично -50. Сейчас + 30 за окном живу в Сибири.
Rather, it's more about the EVs themselves. They are not very suitable for use in Russia, with harsh winters and huge distances between populated areas.
We also have different climate. All those electric vehicles won't survive during winter. You can watch the show called "Long way up" where Harley Davidson payed actor Ewan McGregor to ride electric bike from southest point of South America to Las Vegas. It was hysterical when they had to rent 4 diesel generators and 2 heat cannons so their e-bikes could charge in -2 C outside
@@ssrb3183here you are right, if I need to get from Tomsk to Novosibirsk in winter, I most likely won’t make it, but again, who knows what developments are underway in this direction, perhaps hybrids will be able to solve such problems.
Range Rovers became almost uninsurable in the U.K. as so many get stolen. I wonder how difficult it is to convert one to LHD if you have a LHD parts wreck on hand.
Don't blame the Chinese for high price tag in Russia, they left China 13% cheaper than China domestic market price (13% VAT return from Chinese gov. when exporting products).
I love the looks of the Lada Niva.. it checks the "retro" box very well for me. I first saw them in person when I was in Ecuador. There are quite a few of them there.
I know some folks who have Niva since I was a kid. 35 years later and those wheels still work on every kind of road. Not fancy at all, not fast, but for anyone with garage tools it will last.
From Colombia. I owned one of the first ladas back in the 70s that were imported to this country. I miss this excelent car, it was very popular here because it was very strong and reliable. You can still find one sometimes for sell.
The price of new vehicles here in Canada is outrageous. I bought a new Honda Pilot that cost me over $60,000 after taxes. This was for a mid-range version and the higher optioned ones cost considerably more.
Yeah, I heard that the situation with cars in Canada is even worse than in the U.S. Btw, heading down here won’t help you either, unless you are buying used. Dealerships in the U.S. are forbidden by their contracts with the manufacturers, from selling to Canadians.
I just bought a 2021 Acura RDX in the highest spec for 33k (36k out the door). 17k miles, 60k waranty, and perfect cosmetically. Was there a reason why you bought new?
The Niva and also the Shiguli are both "THE" Russian Cars. The Bread & Butter Transportation for everybody to every Pricelevel. The Last "People Car" i knew in Germany was the Golf MK2.
Russian here. A lot of my fellow Russians will shit on the Niva and UAZ, comparing them to Japanese SUV’s such as the Toyota Landcruiser Prado. But they forget to mention that you can get a Niva or UAZ for less than $15,000. Meanwhile, a base-model Prado (manual transmission and 2.7L 4 cylinder) would run you $50,000 - and that was before sanctions. The stupidity in comparing a $15,000 car to a $50,000 car is just beyond me.
@@RealPolitik-dy4it I would buy that Niva Legend for 11000 dollars tomorrow if they had them in the U.S. . A car the owner can actually work on is the exact opposite of what is sold here .
@@RealPolitik-dy4it почти все претензии валидны - патриот можно было просто собирать тщательнее. Даже ВАЗ продаёт уже готовую к эксплуатации машину, а не полуфабрикат, не кит-кар, тогда как на УАЗ сохранилась та самая полуфабрикатная ментальность из позднего СССР и нищих 90-х. Хотя бы просто начать рулевую рейку регулировать перед продажей!
AS AN AMERICAN BUSINESS MAN WHO HAVE TRAVELLED GLOBALLY, I AM LAUGHING SO HARD. OUR POLITICIANS ARE TRULY STUPID. PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS FIND A WAY TO MAKE MONEY.
You do have a low intelligence for a businessman. Avoiding sanctions is expensive and can land you an extradition to the US and a life prison sentence.
Didn't you see the video? They pay almost twice as much as in the US, so it's not many making money on this in russia, and russia economy is going too collapse in winter
We decided to spend summer holiday in St Petersburg last year. Went by ferry from Stockholm to Helsinki, and drove to St Petersburg (all paperworks prepared before trip ofcourse). It amazed me to see so many brand new european SUVs on the russian streets.
Most people don't know that top designers and engineers of the worlds famous carbrands which were considered quality for generations, left the companies and are now working for chinese car brands. Hence why chinese cars got that huge jump in quality, comfort and design. All the top notch inventions are being implimented in china first. Other car manufacturers have to stand in line until they can get it too
I got this list from another video, I am not sure how up to date it is, but you get the picture: Chief designer of BYD : Wolfgang Eggar, Ex designer of Alfa Romeo, Lamborghini Chief designer of Geely Group : Stefan Sielaff, Ex designer of Audi, Mercedez Benz. Chief designer of HongQi : Giles Taylor, Ex designer of Rolls Royce, Jaguar. Chief designer of SAIC motor group : Josef Kaban, ex designer of Bugatti, BMW, VW. Chief designer of Xpeng : JuanMa Lopez, ex designer of Ferrari
@@Storm4155 and they obviously took their closest team with them. I mean they didn't go alone but as a whole team package. I wonder what was the cause of leaving "such a nice work places"? Maybe... and it's only my speculation... the western car manufacturer couldn't pay them well enough and their policies and restrictions went so much overboard that those designers couldn't use their whole potential, while chinese manufacturers gave them all the freedom they needed? Speaking about western "freedom" btw...
THATS WHY CHINESE CARS are GORGEOUS Because The DESIGNERS ARE TOP AMERICAN and EUROPEAN CAR DESIGNERS who are UNEMPLOYED WORKING NOW in CHINA….NOT CHINESE DESIGNER !
First of all, those Chinese cars you can find in Russia are mostly outdated, even hard to sell in China, due to one main reason, they are not hybrid/EV. Secondly, your friend there, all those beautifully crafted EVs are not inexpensive even in China, importing them to Russia would be much higher priced, though there are some few have been and being imported into Russia, brands like Avatr, Li-Auto, and Yang Wang, but there won't be many want to buy at that range of price. Last but not the least, fossil fuel is cheap in Russia, and they don't have massive infrastructures of charging device built up like China, cars that showed in your video would do just fine to fulfill the gap of Russian market.
Well said. I think people forget that the Russian government slaps a 48% tariff on all imported products plus the VAT. I'm sure once Russia starts building up its EV charging infrastructure a lot of the newer Chinese designs will show up, maybe even have factories in Russia to assemble them.
@@magellanmaxbefore the Russian government will start building EV infrastructure, you'll have to develop an EV car first that can run for 1000 kms in -30 Celsius. EV are not that popular in the cold northern and sparsely populated western Chinese provinces either. The northern Chinese provinces are still to the south of anything Russia while the least densely populated Chinese region is still more populated than Russia east of Urals.
Chinese ICE cars is just above average quality. Chinese is really good at EVs. but the current batteries might not be suitable for Russian weather, maybe in the future, Russian can really enjoy the great price and quality of Chinese EVs.
@@ibrahimtouman2279 EVs are not only EVs, they’re now developing into smart phones on wheels. Pure ICE cars simply can’t handle that due to pure physics limitation. For example, BYD car operating system can control every single wheel speed up to accuracy under 1 second. No ICE engine can do that even with help of operating system. Moreover, gasoline cheap then Russians can choose BYD hybrid, which is also the best in the world right now.
@@华夏-u2x The Chinese ICE cars were based on old Western platforms like the Rover 75. With EVs most companies started from the same point. MG (SAIC) is selling lots of EVs in the U.K. It helped that there was already a dealer network to support them.
I've been working in Marketing with International Companies for almost 20 years. The Russian Market is unique, because the Average Consumer is typically far more "Brand Loyal" compared to other Europeans. So this will be a very interesting development, to see how things change after Sanctions are lifted.
I'm Russian. I had Nissan. Now I have Haval. Even if Nissan returns I won't switch back to it. Because Nissan essentially abandoned me. When I needed original Nissan spare parts I couldn't get them even though they WERE in European warehouses. That's exactly the reason why I decided to get rid of my Nissan. Some people search for alternative ways to purchase original parts, I didn't want to bother. If Nissan doesn't want to sell me parts, I don't want to jump through hoops to get them.
The main reason for the higher prices in Russia is the import tax (mostly lobbied for by Lada). It applies to both imported cars and foreign-brand cars which are assembled in Russia (in which case the tax depends on the percentage of parts which were made in Russia - less Russian parts = more tax).
after Russia joined the WTO in 2012, there is no more official tariff on imported cars.. but the Russian government still imposes 300,600 rubles (~3500$) recycling fee on every passenger car with an engine volume between 1.0 and 2.0 liters.. by the way, this recycling fee will be further increased starting from 1st of Oct this year.. however, the Russian government totally refunds the recycling fee for every car produced locally inside Russia.. so, one could think of the recycling fee as a form of tariff that protects Russian automakers from foreign competition..
Ничего удивительного, просто посмотрите на карту, удивительно другое, как руководство западных стран не смогло это предусмотреть, похоже решение принималось в большой спешке, с надежной на панику....
Russia has been fireproofing their economy since 2015 and by 2018 Putin was taunting the West to impose their so-called crippling sanctions rather than keep wielding it like some silver bullet.
From Brazil here. I remember when Lada flooded Brazil with Nivas and Laikas mid 90’s. I got my 1989 Niva in 2002, with CCCP stickers and all, and had great experiences with it. Unfortunately I had to sell it because I needed a pickup truck. But Nivas are tight brave little 4x4, and because of the short axel distance, can pretty much climb anything.
Lada Niva is notoriously spartan and uncomfortable, but also - very, very good for real off-road driving. And very cheap and easy to maintain. Snow, mud, cross-terrain - it is made for that. It is the total opposite of an S-class or 7 series.
It's a car build in different times. A solid car, simple, easy to fix, and allterrain. A working class car build in different times so that people could fix them to go to work. Now you have to work to be able to fix the car XD
This video was especially interesting for me. I'm an insurance adjuster, and I just spent all day getting total losses towed to IAA. Then I logged into TH-cam after work and found out where they're all ending up.
Have you seen the test of the Chinese SUV Yangwang U8? Let me just say that it is a real but real killer in a positive sense. It is not surprising that many countries hit them with extra customs duties. It seems that the others live on the old glory, that is, on the brand name .In terms of quality side by side they are even better with a low price.
I heard that YangWang is not a quite good name in English though LOL. It refers to "look upwards" in Chinese approximately. And also see Denza Z9GT, this is also an insane luxury car sold at 50,000 US dollar in China market.
Niva is pretty close to my realistic budget dream car. If I move to Russia I will definitely buy one. They used to be exported to here( Australia) back in the 80s.
@@slovak_redneck7922 ,всё это просто обман.На производство электричества тратятся всё те же углеводороды,турбина электростанции имеет тот же КПД в 40% что и двигатель внутреннего сгорания.Однако потом электричество теряется в процессе передачи потребителю.И получается что для того,чтобы вы проехали на своём электромобиле где-то сжигается больше углеводородов,чем если бы вы просто залили в бак бензина.
@@citizenofnetthat will not work. From a preppers point of view is dumb. Beginning with electricity availability/generation, range, serviciability to a EMP scenario, ICE hands down.
I bought a Yugo car in the 1990’s and it was great. It had 12 inch tires and it ran. Oh the wipers worked and heater worked. It was very small and scary to drive.
Well...don't laugh at the Lada Niva for where the fuel hatch release was finally found. Three decades ago, I was driving a rented Ford (forget the model) across the NY Thruway, past Buffalo, from Cleveland to Boston, when I had pull over at a gas station. The fuel cap release could not be found anywhere. One-and-half hours later, after numerous folks had tried to help - passing motorists, truck drivers, etc - we finally managed to find it. It was in the glove compartment.
To be honest, I moved back from US to China last year and I can only say that the Chinese automobile industry is light years ahead of everyone else. I’m bought an AITO M9 this year and I can say it makes the best german based car looks like garbage. The funny part is that I don’t even have a charging port since I live in an apartment, and the monthly cost of charging it outside is only about 10 bucks. Man how could anyone ever refuse that. EV in China is like from future.
The most beautifully designed, technologically advanced, reliably built, and financially affordable cars are being produced, sold, and driven in China, especially their EVs. If the US and EU don't impose ridiculously high tariffs on these cars, their own domestic legacy automakers will go bankrupt in a few years.
As engineer I would want to keep one car that uses minimum electronics which might get affected by sun spot activities , severe thunder storm or nuclear blasts, prefer the emergency brake just manual.
WOW This is a dramatic and hilarious report. l haven't yet lost hope in Japan,Germany and any western car makers,but there are lessons to learn,especially the makers from the western world. Umar from Uganda.
In 2023 I was in Bolivia. The taxi at the airport I took to the hotel was a Haval. I was impressed. It was the first Chinese vehicle I had seen or riden it. There are multiple Chinese brands in Bolivia. Taxi service is cheap in Bolivia. I rode in other Chinese brands while there. The Haval was the nicest Chinese vehicle I rode in while in Bolivia.
Forget Russia, Chinese cars are making inroads in the UAE. It is unlikely someone will shift from a Bentley, Mercedes, or Range Rover to a Chinese car but many people are shifting from a Ford Explorer, Kia Sportage, Mazda CX-5, Volvo XC60, or VW Tiguan to a Jetour Dashing, Geely STARRAY, BYD SONG, or GAC GS8.
I used to be a real car person, all be it without a huge budget. I've owned loads of different classic cars (UK), a few European and even a couple of US muscle cars but I've completely lost interest in modern cars so if I lived in Russia, I'd be quite happy to get from A-B in an old Lada or Buhanka, cars just don't have the appeal they used to.
I prefer cars without PCs and software. I don't need a laptop on wheels, I need a car. As a child I thought differently, but as an adult I see the world differently. I'm afraid of electric cars and I find them impractical. Chinese electric cars that don't have handles on the door, for example, are frightening. You didn't know how to open the fuel cap of a Lada, so how is the fireman supposed to know where an emergency button for the door is or if there is one at all?? It's a pity that there aren't more Russian car brands than just Lada.
You can stick to the old fashioned cars if you want. Young generations enjoy all the bells and whistles in new Chinese cars, including ICE ones. Software driven cars definitely have its downside, but privacy should be least of your concern if you live in the west, as they already collect everything about you via other means
I have a Lada Niva for 15 years now, it's my second purpose car, have a weekend house in the mountains, except for the regular maintenance things, and a few other not so serious issues, everything else is still perfect, believe me this car can climb on Everest!..a bit slow while climbing but it will climb 100%!
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There is Nothing wrong with the Chinese cars you can hardly tell the difference from the Western cars. This is NOT China 40 years ago. + check the New Lada and Volga and Moskvich. 2024. Who cares about VW or Nissan. so on.
Wich countries agree pay to Russia in Rubles?
@@kasperiization All of them
German car exports to Russia fell to zero. Miraculously German car exports to khazakstan up 7000% 😂
same as europe oil import from india (yeah we all know india is rich in oil:)
BMW still sells in russia and never stopped
@@Kruse1 Yea, our sanctions not only havnt touched their economy, BRICS+ filled in where the west left. May probably sanctioned ourselves by closing markets to ourself.
and then from Kazakhstan to Russia
Kazakhstan is not an independent country and it is still directly managed by Russia. It is literally Russia's back pocket and sidekick 😂😂😂
i love chinese cars, not because i'm gonna buy them. but as soon as the chinese cars enter market, all others legacy brands like toyota, honda, ford, hyundai, instantly cut prices 🤣
充分競爭才能讓人們買到了真實價值的物品，
@@ritawinson1101 send those Chinese companies to India, our car companies need a kick in the arse.
No rip-off from other brands
So true ,we are ripped off by Western cars
Same in Malaysia. Japan, German and America cars used to give us outdated spec. After China cars enter our market. Now they start to update it. 😊
Same in Brasil and we couldnt be happier. Decent cars, fair price. European and American company suddenly dropped their prices to compete, byt a year ago they were saying they had no margin to drop and blamed on taxes. Lol. Now western companies are complaining about free markets and demanding higher taxes for chinese cars. Right Mr Musk?
It's the time to mr. Musk sells the tesla with China car pricetag..
Ok Mr Chinese Bot
Ok mr. Western bot@@johnfenechdoe3148
Working FOR CCP?
China and Russia are world stabilizers.
Toyota Corolla priced in China below $10,000 brand new because of competitions. While in the US, the same car is priced above $20,000.
20k? Loughing at you with my 35K€ Corolla.
In Europe 30-35000 euros for Corolla and they are wondering why the Europeand manufactures are about to close their factories
Corporate greed, not to mention, American government greed
Corporate greed, not to mention, American government greed
Corporate greed, not to mention, American government greed
I live in Moscow all my life. I do not have a car, never wanted a car and most possibly will never have one. Public transport is so much cheaper and convenient, shops are in walking distance. Delivery services working 24/7. Have to mention all this because sometimes it is difficult for US public to understand how unnecessary owning personal car in Russia is.
У меня машина появилась только в Европе, в Москве великолепно развит общественный транспорт и недорогие такси, быстрое метро, автобусы, троллейбусы и трамваи, машина была вообще не нужна и лишние расходы тоже.
Same in China... No need for cars. More like for face. Public transport is incredibly toooo convenient
I think the same, "if I live near the center of Moscow, why do I need a car?" Moscow's public transport is the best in the world, BUT now I'm thinking about buying a car because I bought my dacha on the outskirts 😂
@@samaya_lubimaya У меня есть машина, но выезжаю только за город, ты тупо можешь не успеть на работу поехав по москве на авто или вставать на пару часов раньше , хотя конечно стало лучше чем 10 лет назад, вообще закрой гараж в пробках можно бензобак спалить
Stayed in St Petersburg for a month as a tourist so can confirm the public transport is awesome and very affordable.
Azerbaijani here, despite no sanctions, chinese cars are quite popular here because of what they offer for their price.
What about the after sale service? Here in Kuwait Chinese cars are the most sold cars, but the problem is the servicing..... no third party garages work on them, all from the official dealership.
Just wait, China turning their back to Russia soon. China just using russia to getting cheap stuff
WHAT U EXPECT RUBISH ALLWAYS CHEEP ..
I would have expected European military deals made in Turkey.
@@georgesbv1 why? US is more in involved with Turkey than any country in Europe!
Not gonna lie, i've been seeing alot of beautiful Chinese SUV's in Russia lately, many of them look cooler than Western cars! 100%
They drive better too. The tech gap is at least 10 years, and getting larger.
@@georgedang449But many in the west think that China are still playing catch-up.
They caught up long ago and are now well beyond anything in the west.
@@bubba842 sleeping on the wheel 😂😂😂
@@bubba842China car already won the marathon, Western meanwhile like Rabbit still sleep under the trees....
@@georgedang449they burn better too. Especially in winters.
In China Toyota and Volkswagen cars are sold very cheaply and their sales are getting lower and lower and not even competitive, but in the US and Europe these cars are not only sold at high prices but also sought after, so it can only be said that the western world does not have any advantage in the competition in the future.
The German auto industry is the first to die. But the future of the Japanese and American is also unenviable. The Russian car market today is what we will see in other countries tomorrow. It's just that Western companies committed suicide here in advance.
US gave China a huge market wrapped in a neat bow and removed all western, Japanese, and Korean competition as a cherry on top. 😂
now theyre stuck with made in china cars 😂
@@anlam1044 Chinese cars are out of this world - affordable, sleek design and futuristic. Russia should stick with Chinese cars and it is not a bad thing at all.
@@bldomain I care more about the quality under the hood than impressing someone with a sleek design and cheaply built car.
china loves the US stupidity
@@anlam1044
Under the hood of Western and Japanese cars are outdated and archaic ICE engines. It is a relic from the 20th century. Chinese EV cars are of very high quality but selling at affordable prices because Chinese production has achieved vertical integration from production efficiency with complete control of the supply chain. China's battery technology is also at another level where no other country can rival. Welcome to the 21st century.
Note that this means Western and Japanese automakers who relied up to 30% of the Chinese market will be all gone in a few years. This is why Chinese EVs displayed at the Shanghai Auto show in 2023 sent shivers down the spine of US/European and Japanese automakers with their first reaction of shock, then fear and then angry as they know that they can never sell their ICE cars in China anymore in the very near future because they are behind Chinese EVs which they have neglected for too long. They have themselves to blame with their hubris arrogant. Looking down on the Chinese is their downfall.
You forgot LADA mechanic is simple, easy, and can be done 100% IN YOUR DRIVEWAY, I am so tired of my modern car that I can fix maximum 50% of what breaks from my garage. And LADA have parts EVERYWHERE, SAME DAY.
Что за наезды на Сибирь?
@@DenKorsak Car parts
@@zxy8076 That's a lie, Siberia does not have 20% or less of what you can buy in Moscow. It's just that Siberian's have a soft ego and avoid reality. I understand, I come from a small town up north Canada and they react very much like Siberians. Don't say this, Don't say that, bla bla bla. Small and fragile ego in my town too. People prefer to live in dreams and lies, and tell themselves cutes stories for comfort. It's human nature.
@@ThereIsAlwaysaWay2 Что значит даже в Сибири? Здесь что, дальние уголки мира где цивилизации нет?
@@ThereIsAlwaysaWay2Yo Homie, they’re very sensitive about Siberia especially Canadian guy is talking about their region. Greetings from Cincinnati, Ohio. I’m Russian.
The West leaving Russia has been a blessing for Russian businesses. They fill the void. China, being a strong supporter of Russia through thick and thin naturally also was allowed to flourish as well. That's perfectly fine and the growth of the multipolar world will enrich both nations much more going forward.
Chinese cars cost 3-4 times in Russia and have questionable quality. There is no blessing for Russian businesses, as they don't produce anything. Russia uses parallel imports for Western goods, which cost an arm and a leg. There is a shortage of everything, including advanced medicines, shortage of labor, and now gasoline for civilian cars.
America inadvertently helped pushed the multi polar world ahead by 10 years😂😂 the west is being pushed out of Africa through coups and now massive protest
I hope western car brands will never return to Russia. Russians don't need them.
Какая чушь 🤦♂️
@@dmitrydmr9979why was it nonsense?
Here in South Africa, the Haval Jolion is also the highest-selling Chinese car on our shores. While the top sellers are still Toyota, VW and Ford, the Chinese brands are making deep inroads to our market. And I am really glad for that for the increased choice and competition this brings to our market. Without this, we would be price-gouged by the legacy European brands. As the former owner of BMW, VW and Audis I have firsthand experience of this. My next car will be the Tank 300.
tank 300 is very good,my friend have
What about Indian brand Mahindra
Mg
@@s_rajbongshi We have it in South Africa, even assembled in Durban South Africa. Not a big seller but the footprint is there.
I am Italian, I bought a Lada Niva twenty years ago to go off-road on the roads of the Alps. It is not the car I use every day to go to work but it is still the car that gives me the most fun. It is not particularly reliable (moreover mine is 25 years old...) but it is very easy to repair even without the help of specific equipment. It is a car born for mud and dirt tracks, it does its job well now as it did in '77!
Why did they put a heated rear window on new Ladas? To keep your hands warm while you're pushing it.
Everybody knows that Italian cars are trash. Or fancy, expensive and unusuable cars like Ferrari and Lambos.
@@steven-k. Not true, they are good cars, not so diffused but the classic lada years ago it was a good off road car
@@huskywr240 the key words there are "years ago" 😂 Years ago, people thought the VW Beetle, Fiat 500 and the Austin Mini were good, but by modern standards they're rubbish. The difference is, they're still making the Niva. They actually stopped production in 2021, but they started up again when the sanctions hit.
@@steven-k. No,no,no. That was for the Polish car 'Nicki'
A few corrections to the video:
1. Ford has been out of the Russian market for quite a while even before the sanctions
2. Chinese cars are assembled in their own factories in Russia, or directly imported. Abandoned Western car factories in Russia are doing different things, but not a lot of car assembly actually.
3. Chinese cars in Russia cost more than in China because of the import tariffs. The lack of competition has nothing to do with it.
4. I was surprised Lada Vesta wasn't mentioned - the flagship model of Lada. Instead a very specific Niva Legend was talked about.
Import tariffs are not applied to locally assembled cars, are they?
@@717pixels9 No, they aren't.
@@MajorTomMusic But the cars assembled locally are still 2x more expensive than chinese analogs
Yes, I had the same things on my mind. 1. Yes, Ford canceled sales of 3rd generation of Focus in 2017. They had problems with their factory , including strikes, long before sanctions.
2. True. For example, former Hyundai factory is assembling something called Solaris after Hyundai Solaris, Russian version of Accent / I30 line
3. Also true. Taxes as well some other reasons like pre-installation of alarm buttons (Era-Glonass) were a reason why most of automobile giants started to manufacture cars in Russia, as well as making "specific" models for the Russian market.
4. Indeed. Vesta is a good example of a new Russian car with more than 80% of parts made in Russia, a unique design, which makes it look good comparing to other B-class cars,produced in Russia prior to sanctions ! Although people may say that it has some "troubles", it's still a good car and a huge break through for Lada, which is known in the West for Niva or Classics' Lada, based on Fiat (e.g Lada.Riva), and nowadays it's quite modern.
after Russia joined the WTO in 2012, there is no more official tariff on imported cars.. but the Russian government still imposes 300,600 rubles (~3500$) recycling fee on every passenger car with an engine volume between 1.0 and 2.0 liters.. by the way, this recycling fee will be further increased starting from 1st of Oct this year.. however, the Russian government totally refunds the recycling fee for every car produced locally inside Russia.. so, one could think of the recycling fee as a form of tariff that protects Russian automakers from foreign competition..
I’m a European that lives in Canada now. Spent 2 months in china, the Chinese cars are fucking fantastics
I wouldn't want to live in Canada. The winters are so long.
@@ruemignon get yourself a 4Runner and throw in some snow tires,n you are good to go.
越来越棒，也会越来越便宜！
@@zakwang6713 Thanks for the tips, mate, but 'good to go' where, see more snow ?
@@ruemignon McDonalds and Tim Hortons of course.
I bought a Chinese TV here in the US... with all bells and whistles a qled 4k 46" TV cost me $500 while Samsung with the same specs is triple the price.. TCL
$500 for 46"? Wow, that's hard
太贵了亲爱的，我家的85寸4k也就7000人民币😂
To be honest. But Chinese cars everywhere. Aus is full of Chinese brands. Haval, BYD, GWM Tank range etc. They provide better tech for a lower price and better maintenance/service plans.
i have a BYD SONG PLUS, it's very good
We have too many massive US vehicles here taking up two parking places. Wish all US businesses left Australia, we would be far better off.
@@chippyjohn1 You mean American sub-compacts ? 🙂
Really😂?
If taxi drivers says that Chinese cars has no reliability issues, that convinced me it is well build
Those Chinese cars he was talking about aren't even EV nor hybrids and outdated in China. So he isn't even testing the higher quality or top end Chinese cars but just label those low end car as "Chinese cars..." Very misleading or uninformed.
Now they are all new.
Wait 2 years.
They only had it for a few months top. Also the one guy said compared to Toyota it's not as good. Check back in a year or 5-10.
Shenzhen was one of the earliest cities to switch its taxis to electric vehicles, and it's now commonplace to see taxis with hundreds of thousands of kilometres on them, which speaks volumes about the reliability of Chinese-made cars.
@@zero71er78you can only see those that survived
11:55 She perfectly described the state of German cars now. Nothing special beyond the glamour associated to the names.
I've owned a couple of old Mercedes years ago, they were built well enough but for a luxury car of their time they were very bog-standard, with very cheap feeling dogtooth interior.
Talking crap Mercedes have the best interior
@@fooleanperspective1426He's talking about "quality and cheap feeling to touch"...and he's right,my father is driving MB,not the same one but he's always buying E-class (before that W 124) and with every new "series" they deteriorate...yeah they look nice and flush but not so good quality...i owned CLS Shooting Brake and it had transmission problems with just 60k kilometers...
That's wrong translation. She says there is nothing in C-class in Russia now at all. Not "nothing special" in C-class)
I would say German cars are over-complex, over-engineered and especially over-priced. The majority of people in the Global South can't afford them.
That last sentence is very on-point. If you are self-sufficient, no one can hurt you, well except for yourself.
Lada Niva is such a legendary car! We still use it in Croatia...hunters, foresters and geologists above all!
Ахахахха
It's a great off-roader, despite its bad engine... It is considered the first SUV in history.
@@toy2day1Скорее первым кроссовером 4x4 с несущим кузовом вместо рамы.
I just want to say I've seen every single video on this channel and it's not because of the content. I don't care about sanctions or cars but you're storytelling is off the charts good. I enjoy these videos on a ridiculous level. Keep up the good work. Молодец!
Thank you! It’s very nice of you to say this 🫶
Mikhail speaks perfect English and speaks Russian with an accent. Interesting russian😂
@@Lapsontheboy 🤔 Wouldn't that be a half-brother, then?
Yes it's what journalism used to be here in the USA before the propaganda revolution we are currently in.
That guy is the type of seller everyone hates. Selling damaged cars and not telling anyone about it trying to make a quick profit at the expense of the buyers.
Да, перекупы хуже самокатчиков и вейперов. Те еще петухи😂
Also making a ton of profit doing so, i hope there are more honest and cheaper sellers out there than that guy.
I agree he should tell (it's not clear if he doesn't, though), but if he does that and it's skillfully repaired, there are no real issues with it, me thinks.
@@kebabaluba it is possible through a company in Russia, to order directly from auctions in Japan, the USA or Europe.
Super shady guy.
I am from Malaysia. I got my Chery Tiggo 8 PRO in Feb 2024 for USD37,000. This similar model in China cost about half the price I paid. And mine is a castrated version without many features such as the HUD, zero-gravity seat, etc. Higher price mostly due to the local import tax. I am extremely happy with my new Chery. The quality is good. The Chinese are not stingy giving a lot of premium features which the Japanese can’t offer. And the after-sale service is very good. I also own a Honda Civic. I think the Honda service centre just want to suck my blood dry.
Niva is a great second car if you have a dacha. You drive from the city to the dacha in a minivan, and the next day you switch to Niva and drive to the forest, to the lakes, or to the river, without worrying about cross-country ability.
Thanks for the work!
The most important thing is that you don't worry about the car, scratches and etc
I deduce "dacha" is an outside resort / vacation retreat / second house.
@@AniMageNeBy dacha is second house outside of the city
@@AniMageNeBy That's right, the house is in a more ecologically clean area of the countryside.
@@AniMageNeBy это не только загородный дом, но и огород, где можешь что-нибудь садить (например цветы или фрукты с овощами). А сходить потом искупаться на речку/озеро летом, мм.....настоящий кайф. Я живу в Смоленске, летом поехать на дачу - это удовольствие. Летом выдаются жаркие недели, когда температура по 33-35 градусов в тени, и после дачи нырнуть в озеро - это самое лучшее, что может быть в жизни. (А в городе ещё жарче, градусник стоит у меня, там утром когда солнце светит, 40 градусов).
I have owned BMW, Kia, Merc ,Nissan, Ford, Toyota , Buick ,VW , Honda and Hyundai and I like my current BYD seal EV the best being cute, cheap, hi tech , fast , comfortable well built , feel strong , functional , silent and never have to pay for petrol again !!!!!
wise move
Did you know Ev is bad for nature
True but You pay for electricity now and that gonna go up and up and up
@@suhailshabir9305Charging is much cheaper than refueling.
@@suhailshabir9305 now charging at night is more than 10 times cheaper than petrol so for now it's okay
The quality of Chinese cars will only get better and better - there is no going back.
Exactly- flush with revenues they will continue to innovate and make better cars.
All western makers too made junk cars in the beginning and got better later on with their experience
the best chinese cars are EVs/hybrids...the russians buy ICE cars that are outdated in china.
@@laifamily7804 Hybrids are no good !
Datt is true , future is the China's cars
@@mariamdjama2698 North American made cars has been junk since the 1980's !
For those of you not aware of how cameras work, that windscreen speedometer is not flickering for them, that's an artifact of filming it with a camera. To the human eye it looks steady. You'll see similar issues when cameras film computer screens, that's caused by the refresh rate compared to the camera's frame rate.
18:41 I am actually working in this business right now, exporting cars from China to Russia. To answer that question "why is it so expensive in Russia?", well, it is because the import tax & fees is around 48% right now in Russia. so, if the car is worth $10000, by the time it arrives the Russian dealership, the total cost is around $15000. besides, the Chinese seller and Russian dealer are expecting making some profit out of it, so the final price would be around $20000.
Do used cars have the same import tax %?
Is there any loopholes with the import tax? I’ve heard rumours of people in the far east importing cars from Korea and Japan cut in half for parts and then getting reassembled in Russia and used? Does the same tax apply to other vehicles like trucks, electric cars etc?
@@jackjoyce1744 *You have incorrect information! There is no loophole as such, but there is one peculiarity, if you buy a car from Japan, Korea or China for yourself personally, that is, as an individual, then you do not pay the recycling fee, but you do not have the right to sell the car for a year!*
@@UltraTotenkopf so for example, if I was living in say the far east, I import a car from Japan which is broken, I can fix it up and not pay import taxes on it?
@@jackjoyce1744 *No, you can’t, and I don’t understand why this is necessary?*
When I was in Moscow a few years ago I was amazed at the number of S class Mercs and G Wagons.
Its very common at the central of Moscow! if you see beautiful girls driving them, thats because some rich man bought it for them, but if its an older woman in her 40s, then she worked for it 100%
Russians love western brands
@@kasperiization hmm, i would argue
@@TsarOfRussCorrection: if a woman in her 40s, she divorced „successfully“…
I travelled in the rear seat of a C class merc once and I can officially tell you that it was the most uncomfortable ride I have ever taken in any vehicle! I hate mercs!
Why would anyone want a complex and unreliable Western car when there isn't the infrastructure to source spare parts and fix them when they inevitably break down or have serious software faults? The Niva is awesome... rugged, simple with no complex electronics, easy to maintain and spare parts are cheap.
You won’t believe it, they fix them in Russia, in any major city.
They are rich people buying status. To improve sales of Jaguars in the West amidst the horrible reputation for quality that JLR has, they offered started offering best in class warranties. But they DIDN'T offer the same warranties for Land Rovers even though they have same piss poor reputation for breaking down. Why? Because people who buy Land Rovers just don't care. It is all about "status" and they don't care about the expensive repairs. Same thing with Western cars in Russia now. Look at the "dealer" in this video. Look at the way he dresses and carries himself. It is all about impressing rich clients that they are part of elite club.
@@mysteryileex5709 Lots of parts from western cars have chinese knock offs. You still can get original spare parts the same way you get cars, but knock offs are cheaper, by about a half.
@@scottwillie6389 SPOT ON
Unreliable? Try Chinese, it will be a mess.
Through this whole video: Bro really tried to put “Western” car manufacturers on a pedestal, whilst simultaneously tried to give some dumb backhanded “compliments” for Chinese ones. Essentially trying to paint them as market share robbers.
Completely ignoring the fact that this has all to do with American “sanctions” which literally means nothing except giving chinese and many brands an insane once in a lifetime opportunity to rule a market without much effort.
its not just American sanctions, its western sactions.
@@someguy4512 Yes, so true. But if we all just do as we're told, isn't it just American sanctions again? I'm Canadian, we just matched all the US tariffs on China. We're just their hat.
@@jessec4677 this is why I said Western sanctions the sad reality is that you are right not just Canada its the west in general.
U.S inherited UK's domain ( Australia New Zealand Canada) and added Europe as well plus south korea and Japan ( Nato in general ) its all under American thumb.
when the war kicked off in around 2022 my French friends where some what pissed at America and their president, for he sold French companies like Astrom ( company that makes Trams and such) to the Americans and now its under American ownership, and also 2 century old German company that specializes in Metal refinery moved to America.
also in more recent thing to happen Concentrix bought French call center webhelp.
basically Americans are doing what the Soviets did to eastern Europe and especially eastern Germany after occupation except this time no one is talking about this nor batting an eye.
Cars are twice expensive here in Vietnam (a south neighbor of China) as well. Mostly due to high tax and low competition
Chinese cars are taking over from European and America cars in many parts of the world.
They look just as good, offer much longer warranties and are considerably cheaper. So much so that some countries are hitting them with tariffs to try and slow them down.
Because America Dont Want China To Grow And Become Number One Superpower,Because If It Happen Yuan Will Replace Dollar,And American Cannot Print Money As They Want!!
What You Think Will Happen If America Cannot Print Dollar As They Like Can They Fund Military,Can They Pay Back Debt
If you set aside the stereotypes about Chinese cars, you'll see they offer great value for their price range, even though there are still some minor issues. For example, in Australia, many Chinese cars on the streets demonstrate that they can be trusted in developed regions. The U.S. imposes a 100% tariff on vehicle imports from China, which suggests that Chinese cars are very competitive. If Chinese electric vehicles were allowed in the U.S., they could potentially outcompete many traditional brands. In some developing countries, Chinese cars are already the top choice, and U.S. sanctions only accelerate this trend.
"which suggests that Chinese cars are very competitive". No it doesn't, it suggests they are hugely subsidised and built by workers earning a fraction of that in the EU or US.
Prices are same in Turkey even though we aren't sanctioned 😂
Wow interestinggg
you are by your own country same as in Russia
You sanctioned yourself with Erdogan.
Tariffs
indirectly sanctioned by the USA. rememeber when Turkey purchased russian S400 defense missiles, the US crashed the turkish liira 40% in 1 week. a lesson to any sovereign nation who makes domestic decisions best for their own people, not according to the world police state
If Chinese cars are such poor quality, why is the West pissing it's pants at the prospect of competing against them? Hahahahahaha!
差在哪里？你开过吗？
@@baiyun7810 中国车好不好可能还需要时间检验，但你这英语确实应该多学学了。
Exactaly....why is the USA TAXING chinese cars in 100%?
check Tesla with Vermont build quality, that's why
usa & Eu politicans imposing high tariffs on Chinese cars... they are now very scared.
The rugged little Niva first took to the road in 1977. And 40 years on it’s still going strong.
There is simply no car in existence within this price range with the same off-road capabilities. The next competitor would be another Russian rugged military car UAZ Hunter which is +50% in price and eats over 20l of gasoline off-road. Or Suzuki Jimny which is more fuel efficient, a little less interior space, less capable off-road but costs 3x as much.
I think I asked this question under over a dozen of YT Videos in which commentators ridiculed this car. Some suggested to buy a half dead, 20+ year old, used foreign brand models with over 300k km. But you can find a ton of videos here on YT where they compete against the Niva on the off-road and loose
@@cccpredarmy UAZ produces ambulances, and there are still settlements in Russia where it is impossible to drive except by off-road vehicles. "Niva" is not suitable for these purposes in any way
@@baykal6 foresters use Niva
@@cccpredarmy I mean, these are different cars, the load capacity of the Niva is 450 kg. The carrying capacity of the UAZ exceeds 1000 kg.
@@cccpredarmy not many of them a left =) and who left dont do foresters job.
China and Russia should thank Europe and USA for the santions. They habe made them more self reliant and boosted their economies
Situation with the chinese cars will go on exactly like the phones did. In 2013 everybody was laughing at chinese brands but in 2017 I got my first Huawei and never wanted to hear about other maker ever since. Car market is far more different and difficult than phones but attitude towards chinese brands will continue to change slowly but firmly all around the world. Most people don't realise most chinese makers are around from 50 to 70 years.
Абсолютно верно
Такое ощущение, что люди не просто не интересуются историей, они не интересуются даже своим собственным опытом.
Your history is wrong but as Tesla and Volvo are mass producing cars in China, Chinese companies will soon learn how to copy and even improve on them especially when companies like SAIC / MG have design teams in the U.K. The same thing happened in Korea. A bunch of disgruntled British Leyland engineers went there to teach the Koreans how to make cars.
@@MrDuncl The Chinese have the best EVs on earth they crap all over Tesla!!!
+1 Got my Huawei P9 in 2016, never regretted buying that pretty device. Switched to Honor in '22 for obvious reasons
@@dennisrichards7994 What a dilemma. Buy a car from a vicious and human rights ignoring dictatorship, or a complete braindead egotistical muppet who just happens to be the richest man in the world? I'll stick to German, thanks.
Australia here. My postman who has a 290 km run, 3 times a week, drives a Chinese diesel crewcab 4WD ute he bought new and he swears its the best thing. Myself, being a Land Cruiser man, am a bit wary of anything I don't know, looked it over and had a drive of it. 240,000 km on the clock. Regular servicing and tyres. No Problems. Impressive. Just can't remember what brand it was. LDV?
It's Great Wall Motor (GMW). It makes best ute in China.
I have a 3rd generation Haval H6 in China . Its a nice car when I bought it in 2021, But in today's perspective , Its a junk .Its expensive and lower performance compared to the cars selling in the market . You can buy a car that travel 1000km with 60L gasoline for 16k USD in China ,has big rotate screen ,360 view .etc everything you need for a good car.
Ldv or great wall. Both are becoming increasingly popular on the road.
@@Elfangorlanzhou I think Ldv is from England.
As a Jamaican born in the 90's I still have to add a VW Beetle and a Lada to my vehicle collection 😊
wrg
22 thousand dollars for a brand new Haval suv is expensive? A new Dacia Duster costs the same in Portugal! And they are uncomparable in terms of equpment...
I am from Thailand. We use a lot of Chinese car too but mostly EV.
The Chinese wage war try to swap Japanese out of the game so EV price here are very cheap just a little expensive then mainland China.
However gasoline car are still bloody expensive here. I wish we have our own brand like Lada to sale cheap and no nonsense gasoline car here for people who think of a car like tools not passion.
To this point because of technology drawback ev are for some people and not for everyone.
No own brand is not necessarily a bad thing for the public. You have no local brands to protect, then the imported brands will be cheap and you will have more choices.
You do, they are called elephants!
想想台湾的纳智达和马来西亚的宝腾，小国很难有这个本钱发展汽车工业，除非你是第二个韩国
If you have your own Thai brand, it'll be like Malay Proton. Have you driven Proton Saga? It's pretty bad.
China is opening factories to assemble in Thailand. You'll get there.
Thailand got the most reliable vehicle, the bullock cart....The machine need to eat grass and drink water. Hardly break down and no need to visit pump stations.
I love your reporting! Pozdrav iz Zagreba!!! EDIT: my best friend had a Lada Niva, inside it was cold in winter, hot in the summer but the car was unstopable!!! We drove everwhere, even to te top of the high steep river banks :)
It’s kind wrong to think Chinese are making double profit, you need to consider transport and import cost plus also greedy shop dealers, I am sure in reality Chinese sell for the same sticker price maybe some typical marginal profit.
The problem in Russian it’s not the brands but greediness from dealers. It was the same before sanctions as well.
Also the best tactics of dealers it’s to install some addons like alarm, better floor mats, etc with cost of let’s say 100,000₽ but sell the car ONLY with extra options for ₽500,000 on top of sticker price. And they won’t sell you the car if you don’t pay the extra options. This is why most people will not buy from big car dealers (also this was way before the sanctions).
it is definitely Russian government that is profitting from the process 😂😂😂😂
Competition within China is fierce, and most brands want to explore overseas markets. The recognition of Chinese cars in overseas markets is still low. They can't sell vehicles at exorbitant prices. At least not for now.
这些中国车企肯定愿意和中国一样的售价抢占市场，问题是所在国肯定不愿意😂
The Chinese would rather sell cars at a lower price in order to capture market share if given the chance
hello from Kazakhstan! Western sanctions does not apply to us, however Chinese cars become best selling cars in my country. And the price also in two times higher than in China, but still cheaper than other not chinese brands.
i would like to point out one misleading thing at 17:15. Geely chevy and haval used to be main and leading car brands which produces traditional gasoline cars in China, and they sell pretty well before 2020 when new energy vehicles like BYD and other brands are becoming super competitive. So these brands like Geely are shifting to hybrids or electric in their latest models in China, but their gasoline models are still selling in China, especially in northern part of China where it's very cold, or western part of China where it's not very populated. You don't want to go to Beijing in search for dealership of gasoline cars because Beijing has almost stopped providing new registration plates for gasoline cars and hybrids these days ( yes, hybrids included), and even the registration plates for electric vehicles are strictly monitored. If you exclude Beijing and Shanghai, gasoline cars are still selling in China. In China these days , you can get whatever you want at decent price, gasoline, hybrids, electric, as long as you don't live in Beijing, where you can get nothing.
Its a very interesting piece of information (about Beijing not providing licence plates to cards other than electric)
Does make sense.
@@717pixels9 It's not "not providing", but in limited numbers, and all appliers have to go through a periodic lottery.
According to news, in June 24th, 2024, Beijing held the first such lottery for ICEV and PHEV in 2024. 620k families (without cars) and 2.59m individuals applied for 5838 family plates and 3762 individual plates. You can calculate the chance.
BEV plates is in another queue-based system. The estimated waiting time is calculated to be about 32 years in 2024.
Been to Beijing several times for the last decade.
The place is very specific in terms of geography - being trapped down between nearby mountains it's a perfect place to keep polluted air not moving, like a soup in a plate.
So I totally undrstand local authorities on strict switching from gasoline to electric cars - it's just a matter of a fresh air.
But not every place in China has the same conditions.
There are many Geely 4S stores in Beijing, which are not very remote from the city center. Each store sells gasoline cars. I just bought a Geely Haoyue last year, so I am very aware of it.
Russia does not have the same EV infrastructure as China, so obviously they need to sell gasoline powered cars, at best hybrids. PS Regarding all the comments "EVs can't work in freezing weather comments", EVs in the near future will almost certainly have solid state batteries, not Lithium Ion batteries and therefore will be capable of working fine in freezing temperatures.
Wouldnt matter, EV vehicles cant take cold weather....they are useless in Russia. EV vehicles stop in the middle of the road if they get too cold....leaving you to die essentially...
@@EternallyGod по хорошему нужны гибриды, разработки ведутся обратите внимание на KAMAZ-6559 машина для промысла, но тем не менее.и у нас не круглогодично -50. Сейчас + 30 за окном живу в Сибири.
Rather, it's more about the EVs themselves. They are not very suitable for use in Russia, with harsh winters and huge distances between populated areas.
We also have different climate. All those electric vehicles won't survive during winter. You can watch the show called "Long way up" where Harley Davidson payed actor Ewan McGregor to ride electric bike from southest point of South America to Las Vegas. It was hysterical when they had to rent 4 diesel generators and 2 heat cannons so their e-bikes could charge in -2 C outside
@@ssrb3183here you are right, if I need to get from Tomsk to Novosibirsk in winter, I most likely won’t make it, but again, who knows what developments are underway in this direction, perhaps hybrids will be able to solve such problems.
Buying imported cars from a parking garage sounds so NFS Most Wanted '05.
Range Rovers became almost uninsurable in the U.K. as so many get stolen. I wonder how difficult it is to convert one to LHD if you have a LHD parts wreck on hand.
@@MrDunclnewer cars aren't so easy to convert, so much wiring and conversion compared to an older car
Don't blame the Chinese for high price tag in Russia, they left China 13% cheaper than China domestic market price (13% VAT return from Chinese gov. when exporting products).
If you think cars in Russia are expensive, wait till you come Singapore my man
Different situation, singapore MUST limit the car
Singapore is a joke !! 😂
Second hand car transport from USA the price 3000$ but Cambodian government sell to Khmer peoples is from 20000$ to 30000$
All the prices you see in this video CANNOT be compared to what I am seeing everyday in Singapore. I can easily buy 5 new cars in Russia!
He is just trying to say that to widge the relationship.
I love the looks of the Lada Niva.. it checks the "retro" box very well for me. I first saw them in person when I was in Ecuador. There are quite a few of them there.
I know some folks who have Niva since I was a kid. 35 years later and those wheels still work on every kind of road. Not fancy at all, not fast, but for anyone with garage tools it will last.
The Niva is practically indestructible and off road very good.
subscribed for the cow, for the youtube content you seem to consume and for the conflict of nations ad. you are a legend.
Welcome aboard!
From Colombia. I owned one of the first ladas back in the 70s that were imported to this country. I miss this excelent car, it was very popular here because it was very strong and reliable. You can still find one sometimes for sell.
The price of new vehicles here in Canada is outrageous. I bought a new Honda Pilot that cost me over $60,000 after taxes. This was for a mid-range version and the higher optioned ones cost considerably more.
Yeah, I heard that the situation with cars in Canada is even worse than in the U.S.
Btw, heading down here won’t help you either, unless you are buying used. Dealerships in the U.S. are forbidden by their contracts with the manufacturers, from selling to Canadians.
I just bought a 2021 Acura RDX in the highest spec for 33k (36k out the door). 17k miles, 60k waranty, and perfect cosmetically. Was there a reason why you bought new?
The Niva and also the Shiguli are both "THE" Russian Cars. The Bread & Butter Transportation for everybody to every Pricelevel. The Last "People Car" i knew in Germany was the Golf MK2.
Russian here. A lot of my fellow Russians will shit on the Niva and UAZ, comparing them to Japanese SUV’s such as the Toyota Landcruiser Prado. But they forget to mention that you can get a Niva or UAZ for less than $15,000. Meanwhile, a base-model Prado (manual transmission and 2.7L 4 cylinder) would run you $50,000 - and that was before sanctions. The stupidity in comparing a $15,000 car to a $50,000 car is just beyond me.
@@RealPolitik-dy4it I would buy that Niva Legend for 11000 dollars tomorrow if they had them in the U.S. . A car the owner can actually work on is the exact opposite of what is sold here .
@@RealPolitik-dy4it почти все претензии валидны - патриот можно было просто собирать тщательнее. Даже ВАЗ продаёт уже готовую к эксплуатации машину, а не полуфабрикат, не кит-кар, тогда как на УАЗ сохранилась та самая полуфабрикатная ментальность из позднего СССР и нищих 90-х. Хотя бы просто начать рулевую рейку регулировать перед продажей!
Я владелец Volkswagen Jetta Mk2 это очень хорошая машина, очень надежная служит мне до сих пор, ей уже 35 лет 😄
@@Freedom_Half_Off в России даже есть некоторые блогеры, снимающие видео о том, как изменяют свои советские машины)
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My favourite car of all of the featured cars in this video would be the Lada Niva legend. There's no two ways about it. Brilliant video 👍
AS AN AMERICAN BUSINESS MAN WHO HAVE TRAVELLED GLOBALLY, I AM LAUGHING SO HARD. OUR POLITICIANS ARE TRULY STUPID. PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS FIND A WAY TO MAKE MONEY.
You do have a low intelligence for a businessman. Avoiding sanctions is expensive and can land you an extradition to the US and a life prison sentence.
Didn't you see the video? They pay almost twice as much as in the US, so it's not many making money on this in russia, and russia economy is going too collapse in winter
I couldnt have said it better people always find a way americans business losing out
@@MysteryClown y'all say that every year🤣
@@ryvcy who says that every year? you are delusional
Офигенный репортаж! Это настоящая журналистика, без пропаганды и предвзятости. Отдельное спасибо за возможность поучить английский )))
все равно показал ниву причем старую, чтобы задать побольше контраста, хотя мог показать весту
@@Slava-OsipovВот-вот. Не первый раз замечаю в его репортажах. Вроде бы непредвзято, но послевкусие неприятное.
We decided to spend summer holiday in St Petersburg last year. Went by ferry from Stockholm to Helsinki, and drove to St Petersburg (all paperworks prepared before trip ofcourse). It amazed me to see so many brand new european SUVs on the russian streets.
Proud to boast about your total lack of principles, eh?
Most people don't know that top designers and engineers of the worlds famous carbrands which were considered quality for generations, left the companies and are now working for chinese car brands. Hence why chinese cars got that huge jump in quality, comfort and design. All the top notch inventions are being implimented in china first. Other car manufacturers have to stand in line until they can get it too
I got this list from another video, I am not sure how up to date it is, but you get the picture:
Chief designer of BYD : Wolfgang Eggar, Ex designer of Alfa Romeo, Lamborghini
Chief designer of Geely Group : Stefan Sielaff, Ex designer of Audi, Mercedez Benz.
Chief designer of HongQi : Giles Taylor, Ex designer of Rolls Royce, Jaguar.
Chief designer of SAIC motor group : Josef Kaban, ex designer of Bugatti, BMW, VW.
Chief designer of Xpeng : JuanMa Lopez, ex designer of Ferrari
@@Storm4155 and they obviously took their closest team with them. I mean they didn't go alone but as a whole team package.
I wonder what was the cause of leaving "such a nice work places"? Maybe... and it's only my speculation... the western car manufacturer couldn't pay them well enough and their policies and restrictions went so much overboard that those designers couldn't use their whole potential, while chinese manufacturers gave them all the freedom they needed?
Speaking about western "freedom" btw...
THATS WHY CHINESE CARS are GORGEOUS Because The DESIGNERS ARE TOP AMERICAN and EUROPEAN CAR DESIGNERS who are UNEMPLOYED WORKING NOW in CHINA….NOT CHINESE DESIGNER !
@@Storm4155 Interesting stuff.
@@juanbabian172you stoopid?
First of all, those Chinese cars you can find in Russia are mostly outdated, even hard to sell in China, due to one main reason, they are not hybrid/EV. Secondly, your friend there, all those beautifully crafted EVs are not inexpensive even in China, importing them to Russia would be much higher priced, though there are some few have been and being imported into Russia, brands like Avatr, Li-Auto, and Yang Wang, but there won't be many want to buy at that range of price. Last but not the least, fossil fuel is cheap in Russia, and they don't have massive infrastructures of charging device built up like China, cars that showed in your video would do just fine to fulfill the gap of Russian market.
Well said. I think people forget that the Russian government slaps a 48% tariff on all imported products plus the VAT. I'm sure once Russia starts building up its EV charging infrastructure a lot of the newer Chinese designs will show up, maybe even have factories in Russia to assemble them.
@@magellanmax Giving it to the relationship between China and Russia for the moment, I would say it is highly possible, yeah.
@@magellanmaxbefore the Russian government will start building EV infrastructure, you'll have to develop an EV car first that can run for 1000 kms in -30 Celsius. EV are not that popular in the cold northern and sparsely populated western Chinese provinces either. The northern Chinese provinces are still to the south of anything Russia while the least densely populated Chinese region is still more populated than Russia east of Urals.
纯电在俄罗斯短期内估计没有市场，哈哈，俄罗斯地广人稀，油价便宜，混动还能打开市场，纯电市场就算是城市里估计也打不开。
then BYD qin L or BYD seal 06. they are PHEV, 65L tank, 1500km one run, 14k USD in China market. 30k num of cars sold per month in China each.
Chinese ICE cars is just above average quality. Chinese is really good at EVs. but the current batteries might not be suitable for Russian weather, maybe in the future, Russian can really enjoy the great price and quality of Chinese EVs.
gasoline and diesel prices are cheap in Russia.. I doubt EVs would succeed in Russia in the foreseeable future
@@ibrahimtouman2279
EVs are not only EVs, they’re now developing into smart phones on wheels. Pure ICE cars simply can’t handle that due to pure physics limitation.
For example, BYD car operating system can control every single wheel speed up to accuracy under 1 second.
No ICE engine can do that even with help of operating system.
Moreover, gasoline cheap then Russians can choose BYD hybrid, which is also the best in the world right now.
你的发言是比较客观的。作为中国人，我不会自大到说中国传统动力车比欧美和日本要好，毕竟西方国家发展传统动力商用汽车已经有超过100年的历史，而中国只有短短不到20年。老实讲，在传统动力商用汽车的顶尖技术方面，中国一定是落后西方的，所以很难与西方竞争。
唯一的办法就是切换赛道--用混合动力或纯电动车与西方同类产品竞争。考虑到混合动力或纯电车中国和欧美在同一起跑线上，加上中国内需市场的规模、境内全产业链的集群优势、锂金属的精炼技术以及电池技术的领先，中国在电动汽车领域将来是有可能打败西方产品的。
除此之外，中国相较西方还有一个明显的劣势：西方的媒体话语权是霸主级别的（普金也在今年某次接受采访的时候说过类似的话），中国产品只要有一点问题将被西方媒体无限放大，导致潜在客户受影响而流失。同样的问题出现在西方产品上，则负面影响要小的多。
@@华夏-u2x The Chinese ICE cars were based on old Western platforms like the Rover 75. With EVs most companies started from the same point. MG (SAIC) is selling lots of EVs in the U.K. It helped that there was already a dealer network to support them.
Having a Chinese car after Lexus. Brought them both when they were new. Think they are equally great cars.
I've been working in Marketing with International Companies for almost 20 years. The Russian Market is unique, because the Average Consumer is typically far more "Brand Loyal" compared to other Europeans. So this will be a very interesting development, to see how things change after Sanctions are lifted.
Не отменят или отменят но минимум лет через 10
I think the sanctiond are here to stay. This is the new Cold War.
@@SlavicButterbrot Это не имеет значения. Мы уйдем на другие бренды.
I'm Russian. I had Nissan. Now I have Haval.
Even if Nissan returns I won't switch back to it. Because Nissan essentially abandoned me.
When I needed original Nissan spare parts I couldn't get them even though they WERE in European warehouses.
That's exactly the reason why I decided to get rid of my Nissan. Some people search for alternative ways to purchase original parts, I didn't want to bother. If Nissan doesn't want to sell me parts, I don't want to jump through hoops to get them.
@@neverknowsbest2879😊 💯 ❤
The main reason for the higher prices in Russia is the import tax (mostly lobbied for by Lada). It applies to both imported cars and foreign-brand cars which are assembled in Russia (in which case the tax depends on the percentage of parts which were made in Russia - less Russian parts = more tax).
after Russia joined the WTO in 2012, there is no more official tariff on imported cars.. but the Russian government still imposes 300,600 rubles (~3500$) recycling fee on every passenger car with an engine volume between 1.0 and 2.0 liters.. by the way, this recycling fee will be further increased starting from 1st of Oct this year.. however, the Russian government totally refunds the recycling fee for every car produced locally inside Russia.. so, one could think of the recycling fee as a form of tariff that protects Russian automakers from foreign competition..
@@ibrahimtouman2279actualy is a tax de la akem from the citizens.
It's unbelievable how Russia adapted to all these Sanctions.
4000km border with China - sanctions impossible by definition
Ничего удивительного, просто посмотрите на карту, удивительно другое, как руководство западных стран не смогло это предусмотреть, похоже решение принималось в большой спешке, с надежной на панику....
People do the best they can and China were more than ready to move in big time
Thanks to China
Russia has been fireproofing their economy since 2015 and by 2018 Putin was taunting the West to impose their so-called crippling sanctions rather than keep wielding it like some silver bullet.
From Brazil here. I remember when Lada flooded Brazil with Nivas and Laikas mid 90’s. I got my 1989 Niva in 2002, with CCCP stickers and all, and had great experiences with it. Unfortunately I had to sell it because I needed a pickup truck. But Nivas are tight brave little 4x4, and because of the short axel distance, can pretty much climb anything.
Lada Niva is notoriously spartan and uncomfortable, but also - very, very good for real off-road driving. And very cheap and easy to maintain. Snow, mud, cross-terrain - it is made for that. It is the total opposite of an S-class or 7 series.
It's a car build in different times. A solid car, simple, easy to fix, and allterrain. A working class car build in different times so that people could fix them to go to work. Now you have to work to be able to fix the car XD
This video was especially interesting for me. I'm an insurance adjuster, and I just spent all day getting total losses towed to IAA. Then I logged into TH-cam after work and found out where they're all ending up.
Super enjoyable and interesting report. Thank you. Respect to Russia from Ireland. 🇮🇪💚🇷🇺
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Have you seen the test of the Chinese SUV Yangwang U8? Let me just say that it is a real but real killer in a positive sense. It is not surprising that many countries hit them with extra customs duties. It seems that the others live on the old glory, that is, on the brand name .In terms of quality side by side they are even better with a low price.
I heard that YangWang is not a quite good name in English though LOL. It refers to "look upwards" in Chinese approximately. And also see Denza Z9GT, this is also an insane luxury car sold at 50,000 US dollar in China market.
I bought a Haval Jolion last year, I like it, it's a nice comfortable car.
Niva is pretty close to my realistic budget dream car. If I move to Russia I will definitely buy one. They used to be exported to here( Australia) back in the 80s.
As a prepper I would love to have an American car like a Lada niva. I dont want any electrical gizmos. I miss driving a manual transmission.
I don’t understand why preppers wouldn’t embrace EV. You can produce your own electricity. You wouldn’t be able to jerk“freedom juice” from anywhere
@@citizenofnet when electro cars will get more advanced(battery life and range ) then it will make sense
@@slovak_redneck7922 ,всё это просто обман.На производство электричества тратятся всё те же углеводороды,турбина электростанции имеет тот же КПД в 40% что и двигатель внутреннего сгорания.Однако потом электричество теряется в процессе передачи потребителю.И получается что для того,чтобы вы проехали на своём электромобиле где-то сжигается больше углеводородов,чем если бы вы просто залили в бак бензина.
@@citizenofnetthat will not work. From a preppers point of view is dumb. Beginning with electricity availability/generation, range, serviciability to a EMP scenario, ICE hands down.
it does have some gizmos - like an electronic throttle. Ecology demands...
I bought a Yugo car in the 1990’s and it was great. It had 12 inch tires and it ran. Oh the wipers worked and heater worked. It was very small and scary to drive.
Well...don't laugh at the Lada Niva for where the fuel hatch release was finally found. Three decades ago, I was driving a rented Ford (forget the model) across the NY Thruway, past Buffalo, from Cleveland to Boston, when I had pull over at a gas station. The fuel cap release could not be found anywhere. One-and-half hours later, after numerous folks had tried to help - passing motorists, truck drivers, etc - we finally managed to find it. It was in the glove compartment.
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Those Havals are selling like crazy in south Africa
Tell them, they are selling like fresh hot fat cakes 😂.
To be honest, I moved back from US to China last year and I can only say that the Chinese automobile industry is light years ahead of everyone else. I’m bought an AITO M9 this year and I can say it makes the best german based car looks like garbage. The funny part is that I don’t even have a charging port since I live in an apartment, and the monthly cost of charging it outside is only about 10 bucks. Man how could anyone ever refuse that. EV in China is like from future.
The most beautifully designed, technologically advanced, reliably built, and financially affordable cars are being produced, sold, and driven in China, especially their EVs. If the US and EU don't impose ridiculously high tariffs on these cars, their own domestic legacy automakers will go bankrupt in a few years.
Chinese Cars are always value for money. They offer Modern design, Facility, Modern technology and Good customer service.
i live in Brazil & chinese cars are as vast as the blue ocean - as far as the eyes can see!
As engineer I would want to keep one car that uses minimum electronics which might get affected by sun spot activities , severe thunder storm or nuclear blasts, prefer the emergency brake just manual.
Moscow is awesome
St. Petersburg Is PRETTY 😍
@@KamBar2020 Moscow is like NYC, St. Petersburg is like Venice. Beautiful cities
Much better and clean that any american city by far
And Russian guys are very handsome.
@@Intel-i7-9700k So you're trying to say Moscow is a cesspool of degens?
WOW
This is a dramatic and hilarious report. l haven't yet lost hope in Japan,Germany and any western car makers,but there are lessons to learn,especially the makers from the western world.
Umar from Uganda.
The Niva is pure 4x4 fun. A bit of a weak gearbox though, but you find a guy go can refurbish those on every corner of every street in Russia 😄
In 2023 I was in Bolivia. The taxi at the airport I took to the hotel was a Haval. I was impressed. It was the first Chinese vehicle I had seen or riden it. There are multiple Chinese brands in Bolivia. Taxi service is cheap in Bolivia. I rode in other Chinese brands while there. The Haval was the nicest Chinese vehicle I rode in while in Bolivia.
LADA - perfect from beginning! 😂
It stands more for Bukhanka 😂
Forget Russia, Chinese cars are making inroads in the UAE. It is unlikely someone will shift from a Bentley, Mercedes, or Range Rover to a Chinese car but many people are shifting from a Ford Explorer, Kia Sportage, Mazda CX-5, Volvo XC60, or VW Tiguan to a Jetour Dashing, Geely STARRAY, BYD SONG, or GAC GS8.
I used to be a real car person, all be it without a huge budget. I've owned loads of different classic cars (UK), a few European and even a couple of US muscle cars but I've completely lost interest in modern cars so if I lived in Russia, I'd be quite happy to get from A-B in an old Lada or Buhanka, cars just don't have the appeal they used to.
,, буханка`созданна машина для войны.Сейчас их в огромных количествах отправляют на войну,там ей нет равных.
I prefer cars without PCs and software. I don't need a laptop on wheels, I need a car. As a child I thought differently, but as an adult I see the world differently. I'm afraid of electric cars and I find them impractical. Chinese electric cars that don't have handles on the door, for example, are frightening. You didn't know how to open the fuel cap of a Lada, so how is the fireman supposed to know where an emergency button for the door is or if there is one at all?? It's a pity that there aren't more Russian car brands than just Lada.
Aurus and Uaz are there)
Gaz also
Me too. They began to collect data that is not even useful for the user
In emergency we break doors bro. It's like there are no buttons in touch phone, so it's not reliable.
You can stick to the old fashioned cars if you want. Young generations enjoy all the bells and whistles in new Chinese cars, including ICE ones. Software driven cars definitely have its downside, but privacy should be least of your concern if you live in the west, as they already collect everything about you via other means
I drove a Niva once because they used to be sold in Canada. That thing was SOLID, as they said, like a tractor. I actually liked it.
Today Chinese car on their way to overtook Japan and Korea, forget about US and Europe car, they're in the niche market now😄
Not Toyota and Honda though.
What the fuck are you smoking 🤣🤣🤣 kia Hyundai and Mazda are best sellers in eu
I'd take a Lada with manual transmission and a hand brake over anything new without thought.
😂😂😂😂😂 Here in Russia, people buy expensive Lada because they don't have other options) Lada sucks))
@@tallmatch5866 I would prefer a Honda or a Toyota with a manual transmission and a hand brake but they've become impossible to buy in my locally.
3:04 Can't go wrong when you have Brock Lesner leading Russian forces. 😁
I have a Lada Niva for 15 years now, it's my second purpose car, have a weekend house in the mountains, except for the regular maintenance things, and a few other not so serious issues, everything else is still perfect, believe me this car can climb on Everest!..a bit slow while climbing but it will climb 100%!