2019 BMW S1000RR vs Ducati Panigale V4R Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ค. 2019
- Ducati Panigale V4R and the new BMW S1000RR are the superbikes of the moment. One of them replicates the performance of a MotoGP machine, while the other comes with lots of new features and capabilities. We took them to the circuit to see which one is the best.
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My head says Bmw S1000RR, my heart says Ducati V4R, my business consultant says Honda sh 125
What does your insurance agent say?
@@myname9252 1998 Toyota corolla
Love it lol
😂 same over here
LOL best comment
Damn I wanted to hear the V4R owner's comments but this guy kept interrupting him !
G I can tell you it’s the baddest thing out there from an overall perspective. I can daily ride it if I really wanted to because it behaves at lower RPM. It hits corners better than you can imagine, revs to redline extremely fast, brakes harder than anything else I’ve ridden. I also have a Speciale, which is just a kitted up V4 S and the R is a completely different feeling bike.
@@foolspeedahead you are the guy from video ?
s1mple enigma no, just a simple V4R and Speciale owner who beats the wheels off of the V4R.
@@foolspeedahead didn't realise you could daily ride one of these? Good on you!
I'm not really a Ducati fan, but man that V4R is a sexy looking machine.
Have you seen the new superleggera
Yeah panigale is the best looking bike ever.
@@krayzieegg7294 i was keen on the original v4 they put out in 08
Just like., I love you, but as a friend
Flipping hell! People wandering on the track about 19 mins in. Madness!!
The bottom line? On road price: S1000RR Mpack = AUD$32k, V4R = AUD$63k. For the road the V4S is a better comparison to the BMW but even it is AUD$40k. And the BMW includes heated grips, tyre monitors, cruise control, gps functionality, bluetooth link to your comms and phone...I really like the Duc but there's a battle going on in my head.
For $63k Ducati is taking the piss...BMW carbon wheels and and everything it has standard is a bargain.
Sure the Ducati will pull away quicker on an amateur track day, but at the end of the day you're still an amateur, while the guy on the BMW gets to ride home in comfort.
@@roccocarlino933 Rocco you forgot to mention the insane servicing and parts costs of the Ducati
stephen callil the service & parts for the BMW is just as bad as the Ducati and there are more things that can go wrong on the BMW
Rocco but thats the BMW main problem for me 😂😂 comfort i DONT want comfort😂 i like aggressive riding position bikes like Aprilia and ducati.. The Aprilia RF is even cheaper then the new BMW but that bike sets the best lap every time. Also Ducati but i agree those are WAY to expensive..In a BMW you sit much lower inside the bike.. on a Aprilia or ducati you sit on top of the bike this means ducati and Aprilia ate much more flickable, much quicker on the street.. Yess i ride hard on the street.. So for each and their own..
Well said
I so want either of these beauty’s LOTS OF LOTTERY entries this week 👍
Brilliant review cheers mate.
Haha cool review guys, for the main character in the clip with the glasses, you really found it hard to say the Ducati was better, that was quite funny :)
Dude you need to let guy answer your questions. You just keep talking and you dont let a such a good rider like that ducatii owner give us a good a real about the bike and its difference. Good video but improve on your interview.
Drigo Poster american actor Keanu Reeves actually repairs motorcycles down in LA such as Ducatis and BMWs.
Drigo Poster didn’t feel that at all. He let’s his friend talk freely. Great video as usual
All of his videos are like this! How selfish is he really!! Drives me crazy! Just let the guy speak and gives some actual info!
Bob Marley Mr. WTF... maybe you were too high trying to read my comment.. But I accept criticism no problem. And for the record English is not my first language. But I can speak and write Portuguese, English and xavante language that I’m sure you have never heard of it. Meanwhile what kind of WTF are you anyways.
ducatii? Get Italian lessons.
Great content. Love hear sound of engine without music background
I switched over to Ducati in 2003 with the 999 and was absolutely amazed at the difference in both handling and that low-end drive out of corners. I was riding in Okinawa with a 02 R1, a Gixxer 1000 and a Japanese local had the new 03 ZX-10 and not one of those bikes could match the Ducks drive out of the corners…..and for 4 riders who were matched pretty evenly skill wise, the Duck was hard to run down. In letting my buddies ride the Duck, they were amazed at the slim-ness, due to it being a v-twin, but also amazed at its nimbleness. When it’s related some of these bikes handle “like they are on rails”….I’ve never had a more stable, confidence inspiring cornering machine. Coming from 1990 Gixxers where I was used to controlling my tire slide, the Duck you could look, dive, corner, drive. Only bike I’ve had come close is a worked RC51.
In all, thanks guys for the chill review and great video. 👍 Can’t wait to see more from you all! Go out and get everything you can! 😁🤙
Ride safe and keep her sunny side up! 🙏
This was one of the most chill and honest review at the same time. Ducati people are the best but in terms of laptimes bmw is not far behind, but the pricing really changes the game here. Also i think a V4R should go with the HP4 head to head because ducati has given all they have on the V4R, but BMW also has a lot reserved to fight with. Nice review loved it.
I’d think the superleggera would be a better comparison, the V4r is the best Ducati can do “under $40,000” (to compete in word superbike)
The superleggera is the best they can do under any budget
But to be fair, the H2r just isn’t meant for the same type of riding. It’s a drag bike, where the superleggera and V4r are track racing bikes. Depending on what metric you test one or the other could win
These are not the motorcycles to be reviewed by amateur riders.
Joseph Sherman ouch
Yeah, the laps were way too slow for the bikes
In my opinion, these kind of bikes tested by amateurs... is just an offense for these performance machines.
Exactly my thoughts
Lol I was 💯 thinking this as well.
Bravo baieti , bine facut montajul !
Bv Bogdan, a iesit bine testul 💪💪👍👍
Both are great bikes!
It must good to have both bikes in the garage 💙🏁❤️
Enjoy the bike life 🤙
AeroR 😁
Ducati is by far the top machine for the track, however, for a guy like me, who wants also travel on supersport bike, BMW is a better choice, more road-oriented, cruise control, hill-start control and heated grips are not available on Ducati, simply is not designed to go on the road.
all superbike are pretty shitty on the road to be honest that why i own a ducati speciale for the track and a monster 821 for the road in fact pretty much any class of bike is a better bike for the road ive ridden many super bikes and own many of them there all shit after a long ride your back ache your wirst hurts the bmw slightly higher bars and heated grip will not change the fact that its still a race position ride with the edge slightly sanded down all super bike share the high seat low clip on position a few mm here and there wont change the comfort issue that plague this class of bike the 821 monster is not the most comfortable or practical bike you can buy but its leap and bound better on the road then any super bike can ever hope to become and in my opinion naked bike are more fun on urban street superbike are way to fast you cant really open them up on the road or take advantage of there superior lean angles so all your stuck with is a bike that way to fast to actually red line way to uncomfortable for anything more then a 2-3 hr ride and way more expensive to maintain and fix in case of a crash then your typical mid-super mid naked bike like the mt09 z900 street triple monster 821 and cb650r super bike are meant to be fun and exciting it need to light your heart on fire and that why i love the ducati every time i take here out i smile from grin to grin she was never meant to be good at everything she was only meant to be the best at one thing and that one thing is enough for me
Hill start control? Really? Just use the rear brake xD
But.... That's what sport tourers are for...
Let's face it, most of us won't be able to push these bikes to their full potential, so performance aside, looks and sound have made it difficult to choose between the two. The only thing that would seal the deal is price and what you get for it, and the BMW in that regard wins hands down. Not that I could afford either anyway. Haha
True... For poor people.
People who have the money, or who just want to spend for what they truly like, it's Ducati.
@@ThePowerMoves Yea...wrong. Just bc I can afford the V4R doesn't mean I'm gonna give out the extra money for those overheating italian machines always needing maintenance. The BMW offers way more and it's what I truly want.
You do realise that was going to be the case anyway. The V4 is meant for the track. The bmw is a hybrid meant for road and track. The tuning will be completely different
Original Geko 63 would probably be a better comparison with the hp4
Niels Hartman that would make more sense 👍
@@t26hsh but the hot costs a fat stack more than the pani. Also not Street legal. And full carbon 150 kg body.
V4r beats hp4 also
Was that fork oil collection on the BMW shock tube?
V4 looks incredible with the race kit, BMW less aggressive but no less intimidating. Amazing sound from both!
Ducatti doesn't have a racing kit, it comes like this original because it's the v4r
Reckon both front suspensions were about bottoming out 🤸😭 Cracking bikes Both😁
bought panigali v2 damn crazy machine its not even breaking in yet only 200 miles i did so far cant wait to go on tracks
I would be very scared to test drive this bikes,because if i broke one of them i have to work my all life to paid it!Amazing machines!
You will be broken aswell
i think it is great you got two machines together that people want to see go head-to-head in a comparison. You brought up some key points that are factual and make a difference. But the test was biased towards the Ducati from the start. I know its a great machine because I own one. I can attest to most of what you said. That said, I didn't like the fact one was on "STREET" tires and the other one was on "SLICKS." Not a real comparison. But them both on the same tire, piped and tuned...then let us know what you really think...more importantly the guy sitting next to you.
Pretty sure my lap times will be similar on both, as I’m just an amateur track day enthusiast, and both will put a huge smile on my face, which is all I care about. I’ll save the money and go with the BMW.
Great review
Somebody should review the lightning 218
LOL XD at 12:07 of the interview.That interviewer look like a fool as soon the Ducati owner continue is explaination after been stupidly interrupted!!
lmao right
😂😂😂
These two riders are not even leaning low while cornering because cornering low will give the tyres to touch the smaller diameter compared to the mid section of the tyre while riding straight. That smaller section makes a 13000 rpm engine to run at 15000 rpm at the tachometer and produces more horsepower and torque to move ahed, you can talk to any pro rider like I met and they will show you some interesting GoPro footages about what I spoke now. These bikes will show their full potential when they are driven in a proper MotoGP track.
I'm writing this because they unnecessarily overlooked BMW while comparing it to Ducati.
BMW S1000RR was the first bike to put all the electronic advancements in a bike and made it standard in their lineup. I vote for the inventor than the one who experimented and implemented that idea in an other way than the inventor.
If I say something good, they call me a BMW fanboy but I don't care.
Before the S1000RR all the bikes were just inline four litre class bikes but BMW revolutionized the modern superbike class.
He is saying that he will buy a Ducati if he had the budget of an S1000RR but BMW wants to offer the riding experience to everyone that's you are riding a racing machine without racing equipment on it and if you want the true machine BMW is ready to cook and serve you every part of the S1000RR with carbon fiber except the tank, swing arm and the engine.
In the past the Ducati Superleggera was one of the most expensive and leading bikes in the world but BMW S1000RR HP4 SUPER STOCK RACE EDITION was around 80000 dollars way cheaper than Ducati with all the technical advancements that you'll never find anywhere, especially in the Ducati Superleggera.
If S1000RR was not there, all the remaining superbikes, we're nothing but metal blocks with four pistons running at high speeds and killing the riders.
1) Active Suspension.
2) Cornering ABS.
3) Full racing carbon fiber wheels and carbon fiber kit.
4) Fastest running bike when introduced.
5) Very hard to spoil even in daily use when compared to the rest of brands.
6) It's the only asymmetrically designed with a purpose. (Check for BMW S1000RR ASYMMETRICAL DESIGN EXPLAINED)
All the above mentioned four were invented and introduced by the BMWS1000RR and the rest of the world, followed it and mostly the, riders were safe.
This guy is awesome👍
Man I've always wanted a ducati 🤤
I d have loved to follow the video, I was interested but guys...You are so soporific.....
That tail with registration number on BMW will slow the bike down a lot. I know cause I broke mine twice, very hard to get to top speed because of air drag.
Let's not forget the extra fuel too!!
Well race lines def are not your thing... yikes
Front suspension on bmw looked way more stiff than ducati... that could cause the mid corner instability as the very good ducati pilot was trying to talk and the guy didnt let him to.
Best comparison ever
Bmw is ment more to go head to head with the v4s not the R
That striking red of v4r is really intimidating.
Come pilota sei una vera schiappa 🤗🤗🤗
That ducati big guy was sensitive and not happy to listen anything against his bike 😂
That BMW is a sweet machine and I wouldn't kick it out of bed but I have been on nothing but Ducati since 2009 and before that it was CR's and CBR's. There are a lot of awesome Bikes out there but Ducati stole my heart the first rev and first half mile and its been that way ever since :)
Ducati sits mean with that one sided swing arm!
Still have to finish watching the video, but am I wrong or the bmw left fork seal was not at his best?
Thought so myself
Pumping oil out rofl
C'mon guys, ride the damn bikes, you are waaay too slow in corners. How can anyone take you seriously when you slam on the accelerator and take the corners with 50kmh
Are si frica rolul ei
@@alexsimion7190 Mda, atunci sa ramana la 250, nu sa testeze cele mai performante motociclete de pe piata!
Fiecare dintre cele doua au ceva special, al marci, look, acceleratie, frane,aerodinamica etc, testul nu e facut de catre piloti adevarati care mananca motoare si pista pe paine, debuteaza si baieti nostri in ale motocicletelor, tot respectul, eu fiind simplu un pasionat de super sportive pe 2 roti, vrei ceva profesional, MCN, 44Teeth.. Motovudu- pilotaj, dar cu toate aceste lucruri diferentele tin doar de gusturi, de la japoneze am trecut cat se poate de repede la Bmw s1000rr care m-a impresionat in toate privintele,are cate ceva din toate..
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theres a huge diffrence in track bikes and hybrid track/road bikes. Track bikes have no power limitations or safety requirments. However a street bikes needs to follow safety regulations and are restricted in power.
The RR is designed to be able to unclog the rear lights and number plate for the track with ease, you should of atleast taken it off for the test.
Awsomee ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
and the lap times?
Essa S1000rr ficou insana.
I still feel for the S1000RR, but I still appreciate & respect the Panigale for what it is.
Where's Waldo missed a few apexes.
Make a new vid You slob.. hehe love your shit man. You are very entertaining and your insights are thought provoking!
After I think about which one ... fix I prefer Honda Astrea :)
Ducati no doubt!
Thks guys.
From mixi with love
S1000RR ❤🔥
😍V4
I just want to talk about how many bugs can you fit on a helmet?
I picked up a 2019 panagale V4S preowned for 26k US with Ducati 3 year extended warranty and free maintenance. And the way it looks you know what is when see one.
Panigale and S1000RR>Orther Bikes!
If i had the money i go with the 1100 factory
a fair comparison would have been the track V4R and the track only HP4 Race
That dude needs a gag , let him talk back stop interrupting .... he’s like my Mrs !
I rev my S1000RR Sport higher on the way to work than the way these bikes sounded.
This Ducati are from Romania Liviu💯❤️🇷🇴
Bmw is the better bike for the ordinary road rider , not everyone buys these bikes to ride on a track , I ride 2019 s1000r sport & looking forward to seeing how the new model will look & perform when it comes out , looking like it’s going to be a 2021 or late 2020 bike now
I was waiting for someone to make this video. The Ducati V4R would definitely be the bike I would chose. It may be a little more difficult to ride, but that just adds to the experience in my opinion. Also looking at the way the V4R dominates in WSBK pretty much says it all. 230+ horsepower with the full race exhaust is totally insane; not to mention the look is definitely more aggressive than that of the BMW. Maybe a HP4 Race would have a better chance against the V4R.
The BMW HP4 Race would completely dominate all other factory bikes out there including the V4R
@@zsr2009 Doesn’t matter, it’s too expensive to compete. MSRP has to be under $40,000 to compete in word superbike. If you include the $78k HP4 race, you’d have to include the superleggera, which would dominate the HP4 race.
Ducati Panigale and Bmw S1000rr are the bests bikes of all time.
I dont feel like this is a fair comparison being the v4r has a full system and upmap and the s1000rr with stock map and stock exaust
Fan BMW s1000rr
Ducati is the way to go! I’ve got a monster 1100 and wouldn’t trade it for anything.
Where is the dyno test and where are the laptimes?
That V4R should be VS HP4
Not really. S1000RR M is sort of a match for V4R. If you want to compare HP4 Race then compare it against Ducati V4 Superleggera
One of my favourite bikes
Was that a zip tie on the front shock of the Ducati
I believe was the "ghost" used to set the SAG of the bike
@@scldma114
it's a trick I also use on track days, by looking at the position of the zip tie after going out for a few hot laps , it helps u gauge how much front compression to dial in ; if the zip tie has been pushed down to more than 5 +/- mm (depends on rider preference) from the very bottom of the front fork maximum travel, this tells you that u need to dial in a few clicks of compression on the front forks, too much dive under heavy braking can cause the bike to bottom out the front forks which creates instability under braking and can cause the bike to pogo if you any bumps or undulation's so to prevent this u need a bit of a buffer zone so this doesn't happen and using a zip tie to see how far the forks compressed in the hard braking zones gives a rider how much compression to add. Likewise if the zip tie is to high up after a test ride your compression is either to high or you need a lil more front preload. hope that helps, maybe I got carried away and just typing in that the zip tie is there so u know if the forks are bottoming out or not would have been all u needed to know and typing all that stuff was a waste of time and I coulda been asleep 2 hrs ago.
I love you Ducati ❤
ducati v4r is track focus compare the bmw hp4 not the stock s1000rr
Rider: *Speeds up *
TH-cam closed captions (auto-generated): [Applause] [Music]
Slowest reviewer I've ever seen he's a novice rider reviewing bikes. This is hilarious. Lol..
I could go the same speed and I'm new to riding
I appreciate the effort that goes in to this. But those v4r’s do not put down 230 odd bhp at the back wheel. No chance.
They’re around the same as the stock 1100 v4. Which is less than the bmw on a reliable dyno. Both epic machines and very much pole opposites.
Buy the one you like the look of/how it rides
Yeah you are right. I was at a local Dyno and the only bike we saw that hit 230 at the back tyre was a modified h2.
BMW 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
Now it's the time to compare m1000rr with v4r
Your comparing an exotic Ferrari to a corvette
Cameron The great more like a Ferrari to Bmw M
@@vicati7536 Exactly! Like comparing a 488 GT3 to an M5.
soul conjecture no It’s more like comparing a Ferrari 488 race spec with an Bmw M4 GTR/GTS race spec. Both great bikes, but the V4R probs has more millions invested into R&D for all motor power.
As Vicati said, Ferarri 488 to a BMW M4. The V4 wins in displacement, tech, and track setup. The BMW isn't even the HP4 (Not that the power jump is much between the Base S1KRR and the HP4) The BMW is half the price, and gives up a king can of displacement. Having owned Ducatis, and frequently riding on my S1KRR with a guy on a V4, the V4 is definitely the higher performance bike. But where I live, once you go over 1000cc, the insurance becomes prohibitive, not to mention that the V4 is WAYYY more money. Without some very, very serious modifications, the Bimmer is not going to touch the V4R. But I wouldn't care. I love them both. The BMW feels like a better bike on the road, and unless an H2 or a V4 rolls up, there's nothing short of a hypercar that's going to touch it. The BMW is still the best bang for your buck, in my opinion, but if the V4 was affordable for me without having to dig a big pit in my savings, I'd probably have it. Both are phenomenal. I don't know anyone owning either who regrets the decison.
should it be vs HP4 race?
Absolutely! This video is comparing a track-only bike to a street-bike that happens to go really well around a track.
True
That's because hp4 race would destroy that ducati
HAHA no NO you have 1299 superleggera for that.. hp4 race and the 1299SL are similar in every aspect
@@markosijeric4738
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2017
1 Kawasaki 549
2 Ducati 480
3 Yamaha 292
4 Aprilia 191
5 BMW 173
6 MV Agusta 154
7 Honda 105
2018
1 Kawasaki 570
2 Ducati 459
3 Yamaha 378
4 Aprilia 218
5 Honda 151
6 BMW 137
7 MV Agusta 101
8 Suzuki 3
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1 Kawasaki 673
2 Ducati 623
3 Yamaha 451
4 BMW 249
5 Honda 88
Sorry men but BMW is a TOY .... in wsbk to slow for redking!
What you think about this? Bro!!!! Let the guy in black jacket speak!!!!!!
That Ducati fights back
I think you should’ve pitted the s1000rr with the Panigale V4S.
The crew 2 irl
Is the panigale V4 more comfortable than A Yamaha R6?
The R6 was the worst feeling bike I have ever rode. No power and wrist killer.
Gsxr 1000 is very comfortable and good power.
Germany vs Italia 💓🖤
Suzuki GSXR please
Ducati looks like from another world
I have that Ducati Lego technic set, I, dad and mom built it
mah dream bikes
Ducati is another world❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I'm buing splendor 125cc single cyclinder sohc with carburettor and 0 60 yes it goes
Bravo băieti
Made in Italy ❤🇮🇹
The v4r also has a full titanium exhaust and it looks like you left on the stock exhaust with catylitic converter on the RR