In summary these bikes are better than 99.999% of riders' ability and so a choice would come down to which feels best and which makes you smile the most.
@@PilotGigi hahaha in that case, R1 here I come!!!! No no, I do love the look of the S1000rr, but I wouldn't do the M, I'd do the Red with the race package, minus the carbon wheels, lithium battery... I think that'll keep it at around 20k otd.
All modern superbikes are exuberant and extravagant machines 99% of their owners will never barely use at full potential, so... buy the one you like the most! (yes: that one you keep staring at before and after every sunday ride!)
I agree. As an ex-racer I used to run rings around “experienced” riders on 1000s when I was on my R6. These bikes are all fast AF, so yeah just get the one you want/that appeals to you :)
Jay Drenth the other bikes have up-down shifting with auto blip too. The V4R with its dry clutch is much, much smoother than any of these. Still no cruise control though.
We live in the golden age..... when talking main stream.... there are no crap bikes. You can really just buy what you like and you will not be disappointed. All three bikes within 7 tenths on the track..... nice.
That's the truth. Too many people now days are corporate fan boys in the sense that they believe they're way better than the others. You really can't go wrong.
@@cranky1812 the used market is where it's at. Here in the states I got a really nice green zx10r 16k miles for $4500 no joke and minimum insurance for a whole year is $200 now I have to pay that upfront BUT it's nothing seriously. Just save and get a second hand bike. Not 200hp but 180+hp is fine with me and I dont track just do freeway pulls lol
@@cranky1812 Insurance on my RSV4 and my GSX-R 750 (known to be ridiculous to insure) is less than 150$/month @ 23 years old with a reckless and negligent on my record from 2015. Just saying.
The Aprilia feels 10 years older because it`s an Aprilia, cant compare to a BMW or a Ducati, they have tons more research and development money. but the "old one" still beats the "newer" bikes.
Really enjoyed Michael's review. He's calm, and tells you everything with complete honesty, and with a straight attitude. I wish all reviewers followed this style, and equally, his recommendation is very common sense. Thank you Michael!
yes but the bmw was equipped with the m package it should be compared to the v4r and rsv4rf. the fun is that the base model aprilia rsv4rr is still faster than a fully equiped s1000rr.
He also points out (rightfully so) that lap times for stock bikes are kind of a moot point, 99% of riders will never race them, and those who will will certainly customize them. It's particularly irrelevant when the differences between modern superbikes are so small. Truth is even the slowest superbike today is stupidly fast. It makes more sense to compare them on things that matter on the road and characteristics that are not easily changed. If I won the lottery I'd buy the Ducati, because 1100cc is better than 1000, and because I love the way it looks and sounds (not in that colour though) and you get wonderful details like the single sided swingarm. More realistically I'd buy the S1000RR which is maybe not as quick or exotic but very close, more practical as a road bike and far cheaper. In fact it's so good that unless the Japanese come up with something really incredible soon I can't think of a reason why anyone would buy any of their superbikes over BMW's.
@@QuikNik14 Oh ya I have, my buddy has the V4s and its fantastic bike. Its like sitting on a lazy boy in comparison to the twins. The setup is much more long ride friendly and the power is smooth as butter. I really like it BUT I feel like I'd be more enthuised riding on the s1000RR. Ill have to ride one to find out though.
I have been excited for a comparison with just these 3 out of the superbikes out there. These appear to be the top tier of the class currently. Counting down the time so I can watch it.. at work lol
it does tell something about the aprilia's qualities if a 10 year old tuned bike still manages to be the fastest of the group. i'm really curious to see how they will improve it when €5 becomes mandatory
Yep. These are way too expensive for the track and not suitable for the street. The tuono does better on the street and very well on the track. Much better option imo
@@Abhishek-150 i know it but BMW M Edition is also very expensive around 38Lakh Rs. To 40Lakh Rs. For India, n V4R is like 52-54Lakh Rs. But these are top of the line...so either they must have gone for the Base variant for all of these three or for the top end only...!
What a fantastic review. Build-up (almost a story), images, editing, all great - and some truly insightful commentary. More real information in this than 20 magazine reviews combined. Neeves should stop doing any writing and just make this his full-time role, he's too good at it. Hitting it out of the park MCN!
I ride Tuono 1100 Factory on the street and Pani V4S on track. I cannot be any happier with this combo. I had S1000R before, great machine for sure, but Italians just won over my heart. It took me a bit of time to get used to Panigale, but now I am in awe every time at how good this bike is on the track. Maybe in some future I’ll change my mind, but for now I want nothing but Desmo!
@Evo Shift I strongly disagree. All black bikes, especially matte black, are boring to look at and annoying to own. I'll take Motorsport colors, please.
@@dfw_motorrad1329 yes n no,, we humans are stupid, originally I wanted a blu 2016 R1 but no dealers couldn't deliver. So my closest was 2016 R1 matt gray as of April, 2016... Super happy with this beast!!! I can kick your ass with any bike or car(cage) year as far as speed goes,.. But yeah is kind boring lol.. Not static with BMW color but... Features... Simple as how many miles you have before running out of gas... Is a win winn. Plus I already have a German car, amg e55 hahahaha, WHT d yu have?
@@inmoneywetrust3292 02 CBR954RR race bike, spare 954 and a third spare engine, sprinter van to haul them and a trailer to haul my cars, 89 turbo MR2, Legacy GT, and soon a G310R Cup race bike. I'm starting a local 310R spec series. Come race that R1 against my 954 around a circuit. Or send that E55 around a circuit against my MR2. I'm up for it.
The S1000RR seems to be winning over everyone in the end. Every major review has basically concluded "they're all amazing but if we had to chose one it would be the BMW"
@Mila Space When BMW launched the first S1000rr in 2010. They set the standards of what a superbike can be and shocked all its competitors with it's power figures and specially electronics. BMW is anything but boring.
@Mila Space I give you that the BMW feels "boring" because it lacks the character of the Italian bikes. Just like Germans are considered "precise" and rather "cold", while Italians seem more passionate, so do the bikes. That said, though, I'd pick up the Beemer over anything the competition has thrown out on the field recently without a second thought.
I have one, 24000 km and counting not a single problem. It is the best bike ever. Not kidding, the only bike I would trade mine for is the newest one for the electronic ohlins, but mine is only 3 years old so why bother.
I have an 18 RF with the race ECU/SC Project MotoGP pipe, ceramic bearings, and yea I upgraded the brake master cylinder for an upgraded unit which allows me to come to a glorious halt with the finesse of just one finger upgraded the brake fluid to match and its fantastic! Hearing these reviews makes me want the new 1100 desperately. Im terrible.
Really enjoyed This. Thank you! Michael is such a good rider. I like how humble he is about how these bikes are too fast for him and us but he is an amazing rider from what I have seen. Thank you again!!
Great review! Details are on point.. i have the rsv4 1100 factory and v4 base. I think v4 feels slow steering side to side is because the rear tire is taller v4 has 200/60 and rsv4 has 200/55. The shorter the tire, the easier it is to flip the bike side to side.
I mean it's an awesome bike but that's a very presumptive statement. You're assuming that if they had made a new 1000cc instead that it would automatically be slower because their 1100's are where they are now. That's a hard thing to prove. They're all great bikes and they keep making each other push the limits which is good for us.
1. Neither are a full 100cc more than the bmw. 2. They are using the M version of the bmw and not the R version of the Ducati. The v4r is 999cc and generates more power than the v4s. Just sayin.
@@evanhall7681 They are comparing bikes within the same price bracket. The V4R is a $40,000 motorcycle. The M Package RR is $22,000. The V4S is $21,500. The 1100 Factory is $24,500. You want to compare the M Package to the V4R? Fine. Compare the V4R to the HP4 Race.
Absolutely s1000rr, just can’t get over that sexy looking beauty, so far the best headlight design I’ve ever seen, and still love the inline4 screaming sound
Aprilia really needs to update the styling for the RSV4 and Tuono BAD, it still looks the same as the old 2012 RSV4! How long are they going to rock halogen lights? Sheesh!
MCN You should not be taking the manufacturers word for it when it comes to power output and weight as they always lie. 650ib has already dynoed them and a Ducati V4R and also weighed them stock. Beamer made most HP with Aprilia closely following. Aprilia made the most Torque with the beamer in 2nd. The Ducati was least powerful in HP and Torque. The Bmw M sport was also the lightest edging out Ducati by 1 pound. With the Rsv4 being the heaviest.
When BMW gives a power figure, that is the minimum you are going to see. Not an "estimate" but the absolute minimum they will allow out of the factory. Every other brand over-estimates.
Fantastic review have waited so long for this brilliant bike review and absolutely loving the sound and looks of new BMW S1000RR what an all rounder winner 👍
TBH, I think the only thing that let the BMW down against the other two bikes was the sound. Love the sound of the V4 engines, but if I was to buy one of these for road riding it'd have to be the BMW hands down.
It’s been some time since there has been a 1000cc test without a Japanese contender. And that is something that’s more exciting than it seems to have been in a couple of years.
@m stegs - hahaha right. Next next year the same words would be use for the Next big bike and the BMW will be the slow and heavier bike of the bunch and push back the line like Ducati was this year.
Have to admit I’m bummed out you’re not doing the entire fleet comparison like you did in 2017. There are enough new bikes in the mix it’d be a great video!
@@Utahforrest They're not ahead of the pack. They might accelerate slightly faster, but lap times won't be that different and the GSX-R1000R and the Fireblade SP are a lot better as road bikes (ergos, reliability, etc).
Mr.Michael Neeves, compared hayes brakes to brembo and marzocchi to sachs.do you think bmw made the right choice ? do you think the suspensions and the braked are better from the old model >? thanks
Great video guys and top notch editing. I currently own a Panigale 1299S and I believe I'm ready to trade in and move on. I'm just not sure whether to purchase to V4S Corse or the 2020 BMW S1000RR M. Thoughts anyone?
Hi I'm living the same like you in UK and I'm the owner of RSV4 19 plate but because of some issues with the bike I just want to step to R1 or S1000rr so what you suggest. I'll appreciate if you can give me an answer
The V4R is double the price of these bikes. Why would you not use the HP4 Race? Why would you not use Aprilia's MotoGP bike? This is a $22,000 price bracket of European road-going superbikes.
Interesting video. It would be fantastic if Michael can explain the BMW brake fade a bit further. What would leads to a conclusion from the video that Hayes caliper is better than Breambo but Nissin M/C is the weakeast link apart from the final stoke? Did you use the same brake pads acorss all 3 bikes to compare against? Thanks in advance.
Another no-nonsense, brilliant review from Neeves. Now we patiently wait for the keyboard warriors, who not only have in-depth knowledge of superbikes, but are also the fastest in the track and road.
I would really appraciate your choice/advice between the bimmer and the RSV4 1100 for 80% road and 20% track use. Thanks and congrats for your great reviews and channel! Cheers
Great review. Didn't seem biased in any way and you guys continue to up your game with better footage and sound. I've had my V4 Panigale for two seasons now and have ridden both of the other bikes you reviewed and it really comes down to character and looks for me. The Ducati still wins for me since I still bust out laughing every time I power wheelie the thing on to the freeway and can't help but look back at it every time I park it :). Keep up the great content!
MCN I know you are NOT testing the V4r because of price in comparison to the bmw and aprilia. But let's get real here the Ducati v4r is the G. O. A. T. I would have liked to see ducati top spec against bmw and aprilia top spec which u have here.
The s1000rr is on the optional carbon wheels which is a nice option that only bmw offers. How much do those carbon wheel account for the agility and fast laptime of the s1000rr do you think?
They are all just different flavours of amazing. There's so many great bikes around these days, I wish I could own them all and have homes next door to Oulton Park, Silverstone and Jerez 😉
In summary these bikes are better than 99.999% of riders' ability and so a choice would come down to which feels best and which makes you smile the most.
And it has forever been thus.
@@RRSmurf haha yeah it has been this way for a very long time.
@DONALD TRUMP yes, but it's an old old bike. So if its 30% lower priced than the rest, ok...otherwise, why buy old technology?
The one you can afford the most 😂😂😂😂😂
@@PilotGigi hahaha in that case, R1 here I come!!!! No no, I do love the look of the S1000rr, but I wouldn't do the M, I'd do the Red with the race package, minus the carbon wheels, lithium battery... I think that'll keep it at around 20k otd.
I can predict.
S1k : absolutely stonking
V4S : absolutely bonkers
RSV4 : absolutely mega
Winner : triumph daytona
@@FancyAnimal lol
@@FancyAnimal Fun at parties aren't you?
> Winner : triumph daytona
Sadly there was a yellow Porsche near the track, and the Daytona didn't finish.
@@xorbe2 yammie noob!?? 😂😂😂😂
@@FancyAnimal 🤣
So, savage then.. 🤔
All modern superbikes are exuberant and extravagant machines 99% of their owners will never barely use at full potential, so... buy the one you like the most! (yes: that one you keep staring at before and after every sunday ride!)
acidnaught the sound of the aprilia makes it stand out for me, That’s what you’re going to hear every day!
So, the S1kRR for me then. I have never desired a piece of technology like I do this thing.
Exactly lol
Buy the one you like the most...…. and the one you can afford. Italian exuberant and extravagant pleasure can get very expensive.
I agree. As an ex-racer I used to run rings around “experienced” riders on 1000s when I was on my R6.
These bikes are all fast AF, so yeah just get the one you want/that appeals to you :)
Do those cable-ties come free with the Aprilia or are they optional extras? 5:38
Aprilia Security System ( ASS ).
@@TheMezzy712 Aprilia Advance Security System， only approved dealer with PADS can fit and check it.
new for 2019! factory kit!
Sorry guys it comes only on S models
@@TheMezzy712 A S S
S1KRR wins on the heated grips category.
Cruise control? Up- down shifter?
Wins on track too.
Navagation too
Jay Drenth the other bikes have up-down shifting with auto blip too. The V4R with its dry clutch is much, much smoother than any of these. Still no cruise control though.
@jlwlondon s1krr wins on the dyno to, it has more power than a v4r. Bmw claimed its 204 hp and on dyno its 207 hp full stock 2019 bmw s1krr
We live in the golden age..... when talking main stream.... there are no crap bikes. You can really just buy what you like and you will not be disappointed.
All three bikes within 7 tenths on the track..... nice.
Great bikes but most of the riders can't afford them. Insurance on these are ridiculous.
That's the truth. Too many people now days are corporate fan boys in the sense that they believe they're way better than the others. You really can't go wrong.
@@cranky1812 the used market is where it's at. Here in the states I got a really nice green zx10r 16k miles for $4500 no joke and minimum insurance for a whole year is $200 now I have to pay that upfront BUT it's nothing seriously. Just save and get a second hand bike. Not 200hp but 180+hp is fine with me and I dont track just do freeway pulls lol
Love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@cranky1812 Insurance on my RSV4 and my GSX-R 750 (known to be ridiculous to insure) is less than 150$/month @ 23 years old with a reckless and negligent on my record from 2015. Just saying.
I’ll have me an RSV4 thank you.
Just can’t go past that V4 for sound and feel. Looks a beast too.
You should also check the Duc with the Akrapovic full system...
That’s why I have one.Best out there.
Loved that - great video with a really good edit I thought....and on the bikes front a great conclusion too!
Aprilia RSV4 1100 Factory - What a sound!!!
Michael Neeves, best allround bike journo of them all. A great, to the point review and great edit..;)
Not the best at all. One needs to ride them all onesself, then make a decision. You can't take Neeves opinion.
@@sdipper7 because he's a BMW fan boy. Funny listening to him slate the RSV4.
implies that you haven't seen Sagar Sheldekar yet (ex powerdrift host)
I can@@sdipper7
oh right @@mrgreen9388
The Aprilia feels 10 years older because it`s an Aprilia, cant compare to a BMW or a Ducati, they have tons more research and development money. but the "old one" still beats the "newer" bikes.
Look at the rs660 concept, if the next rsv4 look like that it gonna be 🔥🔥🔥
@@q3m210 they already confirmed it for mid 2020. bet ya that that look will come in the 2021/22 models of the RSV.
@@andrewkim9881 It came First. Beaten the s1000 M sport by 2 tenths.
@@andrewkim9881 Race bikes belong in the Track
@@andrewkim9881 good for you!! =D
Terrific comaprison!! I took your advice and went with the Tuono.
Always wait for y’all’s videos. So well done
As always, a very direct and on-point review and comparison. Love the technical aspect review for each bike. Great job MCN ❤️👍👍👍
Those cable ties make this test invalid
Technically they count as two detachable pieces of luggage.
Gary Alexander Lol 😂
Hahaha
From dyno numbers and majority press input: RSV4 Factory. Cant wait for Neeves side!
Really enjoyed Michael's review. He's calm, and tells you everything with complete honesty, and with a straight attitude. I wish all reviewers followed this style, and equally, his recommendation is very common sense. Thank you Michael!
Something about Aprilia that always attracts me.
Me too. The one uncompromizing bike.
Aprillia to me has the best sound
The fact that it’s amazing???
My brother has that bike that thing is a monster
The sounds is amazing, but I’m 6’2” and it’s too small.
You keep saying the bmw wasn't the fastest on track like it was a million miles off. It was only 0.003 slower
yes but the bmw was equipped with the m package it should be compared to the v4r and rsv4rf. the fun is that the base model aprilia rsv4rr is still faster than a fully equiped s1000rr.
He also points out (rightfully so) that lap times for stock bikes are kind of a moot point, 99% of riders will never race them, and those who will will certainly customize them. It's particularly irrelevant when the differences between modern superbikes are so small. Truth is even the slowest superbike today is stupidly fast.
It makes more sense to compare them on things that matter on the road and characteristics that are not easily changed.
If I won the lottery I'd buy the Ducati, because 1100cc is better than 1000, and because I love the way it looks and sounds (not in that colour though) and you get wonderful details like the single sided swingarm.
More realistically I'd buy the S1000RR which is maybe not as quick or exotic but very close, more practical as a road bike and far cheaper. In fact it's so good that unless the Japanese come up with something really incredible soon I can't think of a reason why anyone would buy any of their superbikes over BMW's.
@@T1000ruless also is cost!throw that money at an s1000rr and things change.
@@AbhishekAnandRaj v4r is a 1000 cc and it's better then that s model
Yes that could be riders fault
Good interpretation as always Michael, I think you always tend to give very accurate reviews as your experience can fully understand what is going on.
I own a Ducati currently BUT man i would have to go with the new s1000RR. BMW has stepped up
V4 or twin?
@@R6ex Twin 848 Evo
Ride the V4 1st
@@QuikNik14 Oh ya I have, my buddy has the V4s and its fantastic bike. Its like sitting on a lazy boy in comparison to the twins. The setup is much more long ride friendly and the power is smooth as butter. I really like it BUT I feel like I'd be more enthuised riding on the s1000RR. Ill have to ride one to find out though.
The Last ten years BMW hast been the best
Bloody hell..rsv4 still looking hot
danial johari ..it’s sick..totally sick
When posting text information don't put white text in front of clouds. 🙂👍
Boy am I glad someone else noticed this also. Double check the editing next time people. 👍🏾😌
I have been excited for a comparison with just these 3 out of the superbikes out there. These appear to be the top tier of the class currently. Counting down the time so I can watch it.. at work lol
I'd be lying if I said I don't keep click on this tab to see if it's streaming yet .. :P
Nathan Ollerenshaw lol I’ve been doing that all morning! Really enjoyed this review!!!
Well done Aprilia 10 years and the bikes still up the top. Time for a complete new bike #gamechanger now
The one made 10 years ago was consistently violated by the old s1krr... Don't be ridiculous. It's a 10 year old look, not a 10 year old engine.
Can’t wait to pick up my 2021 RSV4
it does tell something about the aprilia's qualities if a 10 year old tuned bike still manages to be the fastest of the group.
i'm really curious to see how they will improve it when €5 becomes mandatory
add an extra 100cc to the bimmer and Im sure it is gonna be the fastest
@@afletra they cant get the ergos. or the electronics right, otherwise they would have, just look at their 1200xr and the like, lifeless bikes.
@@Juxtaposed1Nmotion yet
@@afletra no, it wont
it has carbon wheels etc.
if there will be light version like v4 superleggera with carbon wheels, bimmer would stand no chance
@@23zuska that's not fair anymore then
Love it, after everything you said! Go n buy a Tuono.💪👍
Yes...and that's exactly what I did...
Yes! His review of the 2019 tuono factory helped me make the decision to get one. Picking it up on Monday! :)
Yep. These are way too expensive for the track and not suitable for the street. The tuono does better on the street and very well on the track. Much better option imo
The Tuono is the best bike on all rides.. anywhere..the end
Or BMW S1000XR!
Why the hell are bikes still being reported in crank bhp outside of the manufacturer. Wheel hp is all that matters.
Because reasons
When u compared then S1000RR M-Sport and V4 Factory version then why u had not come up with V4R ? ?
v4r is super expensive
@@Abhishek-150 i know it but BMW M Edition is also very expensive around 38Lakh Rs. To 40Lakh Rs. For India, n V4R is like 52-54Lakh Rs. But these are top of the line...so either they must have gone for the Base variant for all of these three or for the top end only...!
@@lakshaytewatia6205 m edition cost around 22 lakhs ex showroom in india
@@lakshaytewatia6205 BMW 1000 vs 2 1100????
Would like to see the new S1000RR vs the V4R.
Ducati has a embargo on that.
Typical Neeves quality reporting. Best bike journo in the world. May you deliver videos to us forever.
Excellent review. For me, EVERY stock bike Ive beaten around a track gets brake fade with stock lines. Change to braided. 99% fade free
Finally a presenter that mentions a bikes faults and also most importantly how the issue can be sorted out !
What a fantastic review. Build-up (almost a story), images, editing, all great - and some truly insightful commentary. More real information in this than 20 magazine reviews combined. Neeves should stop doing any writing and just make this his full-time role, he's too good at it. Hitting it out of the park MCN!
Was glad to hear of the discussion of rideability and size of the cockpit. Most often everyone talks about engine, engine, engine.
I ride Tuono 1100 Factory on the street and Pani V4S on track. I cannot be any happier with this combo. I had S1000R before, great machine for sure, but Italians just won over my heart. It took me a bit of time to get used to Panigale, but now I am in awe every time at how good this bike is on the track. Maybe in some future I’ll change my mind, but for now I want nothing but Desmo!
I love my 2020 s1000rr m. The best bike I ever ridden :)
@Evo Shift you can wrapped it. But i know what you mean. We all like stock bike
@Evo Shift I strongly disagree. All black bikes, especially matte black, are boring to look at and annoying to own. I'll take Motorsport colors, please.
@@dfw_motorrad1329 yes n no,, we humans are stupid, originally I wanted a blu 2016 R1 but no dealers couldn't deliver. So my closest was 2016 R1 matt gray as of April, 2016... Super happy with this beast!!! I can kick your ass with any bike or car(cage) year as far as speed goes,.. But yeah is kind boring lol..
Not static with BMW color but... Features... Simple as how many miles you have before running out of gas... Is a win winn. Plus I already have a German car, amg e55 hahahaha, WHT d yu have?
Pls reply🙄
@@inmoneywetrust3292 02 CBR954RR race bike, spare 954 and a third spare engine, sprinter van to haul them and a trailer to haul my cars, 89 turbo MR2, Legacy GT, and soon a G310R Cup race bike. I'm starting a local 310R spec series.
Come race that R1 against my 954 around a circuit. Or send that E55 around a circuit against my MR2. I'm up for it.
Very good review Micheal. The quality has improved vastly. Nice and conclusive as well
For speed and character and sound I'd buy the aprilia but that s1000rr is growing on me..
The S1000RR seems to be winning over everyone in the end. Every major review has basically concluded "they're all amazing but if we had to chose one it would be the BMW"
@Mila Space When BMW launched the first S1000rr in 2010. They set the standards of what a superbike can be and shocked all its competitors with it's power figures and specially electronics. BMW is anything but boring.
@Mila Space I give you that the BMW feels "boring" because it lacks the character of the Italian bikes. Just like Germans are considered "precise" and rather "cold", while Italians seem more passionate, so do the bikes. That said, though, I'd pick up the Beemer over anything the competition has thrown out on the field recently without a second thought.
@Mila Space That's ok, I am not dissing your opinion. It's just that my preference is different. No hard feelings. :)
If the Beemer didn’t run so hot and had that dead midrange I would actually consider one but US regulations 👎🏼
Hail hail MCN are back, superb editing, excellent sound and a fantastic review 👌🤘🤘🤘
Aprilia for me. Tuono, one day you will be mine!
I have one, 24000 km and counting not a single problem. It is the best bike ever. Not kidding, the only bike I would trade mine for is the newest one for the electronic ohlins, but mine is only 3 years old so why bother.
Hallo i am 1 90 CM which bike is better for me ? Thank you !
I have an 18 RF with the race ECU/SC Project MotoGP pipe, ceramic bearings, and yea I upgraded the brake master cylinder for an upgraded unit which allows me to come to a glorious halt with the finesse of just one finger upgraded the brake fluid to match and its fantastic! Hearing these reviews makes me want the new 1100 desperately. Im terrible.
Really enjoyed This. Thank you! Michael is such a good rider. I like how humble he is about how these bikes are too fast for him and us but he is an amazing rider from what I have seen. Thank you again!!
Great review, well balanced with pros and cons, both on the road and track.
Great review! Details are on point.. i have the rsv4 1100 factory and v4 base. I think v4 feels slow steering side to side is because the rear tire is taller v4 has 200/60 and rsv4 has 200/55. The shorter the tire, the easier it is to flip the bike side to side.
Best looking S1000 so far. It's beautiful.
Not as beautiful as the Panigale though, obviously.
@Evo Shift I agree.
I'd like to point out both Aprilia and Ducati require an extra 100cc's to keep up with the BMW.
I mean it's an awesome bike but that's a very presumptive statement. You're assuming that if they had made a new 1000cc instead that it would automatically be slower because their 1100's are where they are now. That's a hard thing to prove. They're all great bikes and they keep making each other push the limits which is good for us.
1. Neither are a full 100cc more than the bmw.
2. They are using the M version of the bmw and not the R version of the Ducati. The v4r is 999cc and generates more power than the v4s. Just sayin.
Actually the aprilia has 1073cc, and the V4 layout is generally heavier than an inline 4
@@evanhall7681 They are comparing bikes within the same price bracket. The V4R is a $40,000 motorcycle. The M Package RR is $22,000. The V4S is $21,500. The 1100 Factory is $24,500. You want to compare the M Package to the V4R? Fine. Compare the V4R to the HP4 Race.
@@dfw_motorrad1329 but the V4R can be taken on public roads, where as the HP4 Race can't as its just a track bike.
This guy provides the best motorcycle a commentary on TH-cam. Hes hes like the Chris Harris of motorcycle commentary
Absolutely s1000rr, just can’t get over that sexy looking beauty, so far the best headlight design I’ve ever seen, and still love the inline4 screaming sound
true !
Aprilia really needs to update the styling for the RSV4 and Tuono BAD, it still looks the same as the old 2012 RSV4! How long are they going to rock halogen lights? Sheesh!
If it ain't broken, don't fix it.
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MCN
You should not be taking the manufacturers word for it when it comes to power output and weight as they always lie.
650ib has already dynoed them and a Ducati V4R and also weighed them stock.
Beamer made most HP with Aprilia closely following. Aprilia made the most Torque with the beamer in 2nd.
The Ducati was least powerful in HP and Torque.
The Bmw M sport was also the lightest edging out Ducati by 1 pound. With the Rsv4 being the heaviest.
When BMW gives a power figure, that is the minimum you are going to see. Not an "estimate" but the absolute minimum they will allow out of the factory. Every other brand over-estimates.
BMW is an M version that do not compare with Ducati and Aprilia models shown
@@dariogs61 the m version just has more electronics.thats it.. otherwise it is mechanically identical to the regular s1krr
Well I tested both panigale v4 and BMW R1000, and they make 201 and 191 hp respectively
great review mate! i'm stoked for the panigale V4 streetfighter.. cannot wait to test one
Fantastic review have waited so long for this brilliant bike review and absolutely loving the sound and looks of new BMW S1000RR what an all rounder winner 👍
TBH, I think the only thing that let the BMW down against the other two bikes was the sound. Love the sound of the V4 engines, but if I was to buy one of these for road riding it'd have to be the BMW hands down.
My dream bike Aprilia Rsv4.....just f%$#g love that bike...
You could probably do another 2019 Blade, R1, ZX, GSX review too.. "the not so updated ones.." We'd still love to watch.. ❤️
It’s been some time since there has been a 1000cc test without a Japanese contender.
And that is something that’s more exciting than it seems to have been in a couple of years.
Interestingly, the V4 is the only bike with counter rotating crank shaft (as far as I know), yet labeled as the slowest to steer.
@m stegs - hahaha right. Next next year the same words would be use for the Next big bike and the BMW will be the slow and heavier bike of the bunch and push back the line like Ducati was this year.
Have to admit I’m bummed out you’re not doing the entire fleet comparison like you did in 2017. There are enough new bikes in the mix it’d be a great video!
Was thinking the same, but suppose these three are so far ahead now maybe not worth including R1M, Fireblade GSXR etc...
J Niv for sure. I think they’re likely ahead of the pack but it’s always fun to hear the strengths/weaknesses when directly compared :)
@@Utahforrest They're not ahead of the pack. They might accelerate slightly faster, but lap times won't be that different and the GSX-R1000R and the Fireblade SP are a lot better as road bikes (ergos, reliability, etc).
João Soares for sure. Whoever does the full shootout will win in view count that’s for sure ;)
What a greatly respected tester and presenter neeves is. Great video
This was a really nice comprehensive comparison video.
The fact that the S1KRR will ALWAYS get you home is THE reason it should win by default IMO.....
UK Citizen it’s gonna breakdown on the way home. Japanese bikes for the win
Love my 2018 test rode the new one maybe in a couple of years but not yet , cheers neevsy
Mr.Michael Neeves, compared hayes brakes to brembo and marzocchi to sachs.do you think bmw made the right choice ? do you think the suspensions and the braked are better from the old model >? thanks
Top quality vid thanks MCN. Bavarian brawn and smarts came out on top it seems.
Great video guys and top notch editing. I currently own a Panigale 1299S and I believe I'm ready to trade in and move on. I'm just not sure whether to purchase to V4S Corse or the 2020 BMW S1000RR M. Thoughts anyone?
Both Amazing.
Get the one who speaks to you.
s1ooorr
Of course it's the Corse
For the road, looks best sounds best
I know man! I want them both! lol
True, but also $5k more and the Akra exhust is another $5K!
Hi I'm living the same like you in UK and I'm the owner of RSV4 19 plate but because of some issues with the bike I just want to step to R1 or S1000rr so what you suggest.
I'll appreciate if you can give me an answer
In 25 hours and... I’m here with popcorn already!
Love the plug for the Tuono at the end of the review. Still the most versatile bike on the planet and at 16-19K USD !
Incredible video. I wish to own a few bikes in the future for sure. SV650 to start, then pick one of these. Next level.
Why would you not use the V4r? The brand new bike that released alongside the NEW Aprilia and the NEW BMW...
I've heard that Ducati have put a blanket ban on comparing the v4r against other bikes on and off track but not sure how true that actually is
The V4R is double the price of these bikes. Why would you not use the HP4 Race? Why would you not use Aprilia's MotoGP bike? This is a $22,000 price bracket of European road-going superbikes.
Interesting video.
It would be fantastic if Michael can explain the BMW brake fade a bit further. What would leads to a conclusion from the video that Hayes caliper is better than Breambo but Nissin M/C is the weakeast link apart from the final stoke?
Did you use the same brake pads acorss all 3 bikes to compare against?
Thanks in advance.
If Michael is going to review it sign me up. This man is epic..😍😍
The aprilia looks amazing and so current for 10 years old design
Another no-nonsense, brilliant review from Neeves.
Now we patiently wait for the keyboard warriors, who not only have in-depth knowledge of superbikes, but are also the fastest in the track and road.
Yeah my bro but what about the V4R ?
What a time to be alive! Have the 18 tuono now putting a deposit on the beemer :) best of both worlds
Don Cappo sounds like a plan! I would probably do exactly what you are doing!
Great review! Watching this in Guyana South America! I'm a 98 Fireblade owner and amazing to see how these bikes continue to evolve.
In 21 years even monkeys have evolved
That's everything I needed to know. In more detail than I expected. Thanks guys!
Love your videos for being so informative! Keep going guys!
Comparing these bikes is just like comparing current generation RC213 V vs YZR M1 vs Desmosedici GP 19.
I would really appraciate your choice/advice between the bimmer and the RSV4 1100 for 80% road and 20% track use. Thanks and congrats for your great reviews and channel! Cheers
If 80% road I'd go the old s1000rr, it's still an amazingly capable bike on track.
The BMW-Sounds incredible!!! They all sound epic, he is 100% correct about the Aprilla being the worst for tall people
Aprilia 191.55 HP... 83.43 ft/lbs...457 lbs
BMW 192 hp...80 ft/lbs...436 lbs
Ducati v4R(not S) 184 hp...74 ft/lbs...437 lbs
Same Day Dyno from 650ib
Love the honesty and detail ! Keep them coming
Great review. Didn't seem biased in any way and you guys continue to up your game with better footage and sound. I've had my V4 Panigale for two seasons now and have ridden both of the other bikes you reviewed and it really comes down to character and looks for me. The Ducati still wins for me since I still bust out laughing every time I power wheelie the thing on to the freeway and can't help but look back at it every time I park it :). Keep up the great content!
Long live Superbikes
V4s instead of v4r?
what helmet is that, I don't see it on arai's site
Love the S1K, you can always swap brakes, and setup the ECU! It's the 2JZ of the SuperSport world, it decimates all!
www.bmwhp.com/2020-m-sport-bmw-s1000rr-2020-track-sport-bmw-s1000rr/ you know I can help you
MCN I know you are NOT testing the V4r because of price in comparison to the bmw and aprilia. But let's get real here the Ducati v4r is the G. O. A. T. I would have liked to see ducati top spec against bmw and aprilia top spec which u have here.
Ducati won't allow the v4r to be in any of these comparison tests
Why dod you emphasise bmw is not the fastest, when difference to Aprilia is 0.003s
And BMW has smallest engine out of 3..
Bozi Miletic yet it’s actually the most powerful
How’s the Aprillia a small bike when it’s the tallest out there ?
Very thorough explanations covering a lot of issues, thank you.
Can a expect a drag race at last...😍😍😍😍
The s1000rr is on the optional carbon wheels which is a nice option that only bmw offers. How much do those carbon wheel account for the agility and fast laptime of the s1000rr do you think?
Carbon fiber wheels are trinkets? Wonder how much that upgrade package costs... Do all the new Aprilia Tuonos come with all that carbon fiber?
Any answer would be good - best japanese 600cc supersport bike 2010 and earlier?
Truly excellent review, well done sir!
They are all just different flavours of amazing. There's so many great bikes around these days, I wish I could own them all and have homes next door to Oulton Park, Silverstone and Jerez 😉