So You Want a DSM
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Diamond Star Motors may have stopped producing vehicles, but they're still being talked about today. From the Eclipse to the Laser, these were affordable cars that people were buying and making BIG horsepower numbers with. Today Alex goes over some of the history, and some of the pros and cons of owning these cars. What's your favorite DSM? Comment below!
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So You Want is a series dedicated to talking about all things automotive. From engine swaps to cars such as the Toyota Supra, Mazda RX-7, Honda S2000, Subaru WRX, and many more. Strap in as Alex gives you the lowdown on what to expect if you are looking at owning, working on, or modifying any of these cars.
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So you want an Acura cl !
Have you done the tsx yet?????
So you want a pickup truck
So you want a Toyota starlet GT turbo.
Have you done a 3000gt before? New subscriber so haven’t had a chance to check all the videos out. I know you briefly brought it up in this video but it would be cool to go more in depth. Especially with the vr4.
Alex: “so you want a DSM”
Me: “ idk wtf is a DSM but, if it’s a car yeah sure I want it”
Littaraly what came to my mind when I saw this tittle
😂😂😂😂😂
Same
Millenials 😒
latino914 stfu old man
The 96 eclipse gsx was always a nice looking car to me.
It is...
I had some many damn issues with my 99 GSX. Bought it brand new and I will never again own one.
OldHunter Raziel yeah that’s kind of disappointing man. That’s one of the reasons why I never pulled the trigger on one, just cuz of the rumors I’ve heard. I didn’t want to always wrench on it especially with modifying it.
I was lucky enough to have this car in my 20's. The motor lasted 100K, but it took a lot of fixing to keep it going. Transfer case, clutch, etc..all replaced. Motor was rebuilt once under warranty. It was very fast and the Thermal Research exhaust for this car was the BEST!
BTW: I still have a 1999 VR4. ;-)
Jeff D I love the vr4s man. How’s it treating you? Have anything done to it? I’m 29 with a wife and kids and am lucky enough to have a 02 Mustang GT with the wife being a stay at home mom. I know it isn’t anything special but it is to me. Lower miles, couple of bolt ons, gears and a tune. Nothing crazy but it’s pretty quick. Want to eventually put a blower on it and forge the motor. I’m a car guy at heart so I love talking cars.
Next episode: So you want a Mitsubishi zoom up television?
They used to make great quality audio gear in their Diatone line
@@80s_Boombox_Collector they also made fighter planes during WW2, the same ones that kamikazes used to bomb pearl harbor.
@@soulassassin0g were they 4g63 powered? 🤣
DSMs are like a dark scary road that the little voice in your head is telling you not to go down, yet you do it anyways just to see what happens. I'm too far in now and can't find my way back out....
Love your videos
Thanks bro 🤙
Like what he said..one is going to end up dead or there's going to be a nasty divorce💀
Me with my caprice
DSMs are like a secret weapon for racing I can remember the first time my buddies Camaro got it's doors blown off by an eclipse at the time we had no idea what this thing was but once that turbo spooled and that little jelly bean zoomed off into the distance I knew that I wanted the triple diamonds in my garage
Before you consider a DSM, remember they're awesome cars however their owners are not.. 90% of DSM's reputation comes from bad owners
VRSol ain’t that the truth
Thats what they all say
True. Been DSMing for almost 18yrs. Never seen so many hacks as I have in the past years. People want fast for cheap overnight
My DSM is always good because o bugger modified it before me lol
100% agreed
Ooh, I learnt what DSM is today
Nachiketa Kumar Me too 👋🏼
They made some really fun cars.
As a person who's played with DSM for nearly a decade, let me tell you, it's quite a pain in the arse, especially owning one that's been pass around. People love to neglect these cars, trying to cut corners ruining these car. People tend to buy them, mess them up and then end up parting out the cars and junking them, which is quite sad
Mitsubishi Lifestyle my buddy just totaled his, going down the highway the strut tower decided it no longer wanted to work, 98 GS-T spyder
10/10 never buying a modded dsm, my stock gst did me very well even after I modified it
My brother has a 98 gs-t...we know what you mean about these cars being passed around a lot.the guys we bought it from (who had a ratchet strap ratchet jammed in the motor mount because the mount was bad.)...said...the people before them cut the trunk out in order to fit a big Subaru exhaust. So we have to fix that mess.🤦♂️
@Frank White the more I learn about my dsm the more I realize how much racing technology was in these cars. I'm not sure if the average person was ready or willing to spend that kind of money on a mitsubishi. A lot of the parts remind me of Audi and Porsche to be honest.
Yup. My brother didnt know anything about cars and bought a 98 eclipse. Trashed it and junked it for 400$
Can we appreciate that this channel actually likes our comments? Makes me feel special😉
You know it man!! One of the few that does this I swear! 🙏🏼❤️
@@FitmentIndustries is it the whole crew that monitors the comments or someone specifically?😉🔥🙏
@@FitmentIndustries nice knowing you guys actually read them too lol
It is mainly two of us but the rest of the crew does read them as they come in!
‘96 Eclipse RS was my very first car and it made me fall in love with cars in the first place. Eventually bought a ‘96 GS for parts to fix my first one then continued to buy a ‘96 GSX as soon as I saw it for sale because it was pretty much my dream car. Always loved how all DSMs looked. Thanks for this video!
I personally think the 2g is one of the best looking cars of the 90's. But I also think that the R33 was the best looking of the GTR triplets, so what do I know.
I had a 2g but im partial to the mr2 or the rx7 think they look better. I do have a hard on for my eclipse that i sold 12 years ago i miss that car.
My personal experience with my first 97 Eclipse Spyder
•Battery died because I stalled it by accident one too many times
•Throttle cable burned out
Had to go to 8 different junk yards to find the part
•Bought a new battery because the old battery was going dead and couldn’t turn on the car anymore
•Drove it some more
•Accidentally went by a speed bump too fast and broke something so the brake lights always stayed on
•Had to unclamp the battery until I fixed the problem
•Fixed the problem and put clamps back on
•Apparently burned the throttle cable again in the process
•Tried to open the door one day and the door handle broke (they’re plastic)
•A week later the right side skirt was coming off
•Ordered the part online but they weren’t for the same engine I had
•Eventually gave up and sold it. Rip.
Learned the hard way on buying a DSM that’s been sitting in a backyard with 180k miles. Never again.
Other than that. Fantastic handling. Fantastic sound. Would definitely buy another eclipse tho.
Dsm FTW 😎
I kinda figured you would make a appearance on this video cleanest dsm on TH-cam
I bought a 2g eclipse in college with over 340,000 miles...Still my fav car I ever owned...When it ran. Mine had a DSM sticker in the engine bay. After 1995/part of 1996 most 2g's had Mitsubishi sticker rather than DSM in the engine bay.
Someday I will find the one remaining unmodified low mileage 2g GSX, and I will buy it, and everything will be ok.
Good luck my g. You'll need it. Lots of it.
Lolol.... I have black 98 gsx stick... thats unmolested ..... what can I say.... hard to find these baby on the road anymore especially awd
@@PRINYATIP $100000 that's my final offer
@@Tyler-zf2gj lolol
Is 106k miles low enough on a '99 GSX? I've had it for almost 6 years at this point and love it.
"Do you have the DSM?"
"We got it sir"
"Good, that's one less loose end"
That's why I'm here I just wanted to see what the DSM was
"The next thing you know either one of you is dead" - This one hits close to home, as I lost my beloved 2g eclipse GSX in a rollover a month ago...
Im a simple man i see cars and a rs mention i press like!
JaseVlogs I wanna see him say argdoune
well, mine is an rs XD
Oh my god you guys actually listened to me 😢😱 I mean I have a 2005 so not a dsm but I said cover the eclipse and y’all listened, y’all no only have my sub now, i LOVE you guys now y’all listen more than some family members
Jesus Urbina must be nice
IVE BEEN ASKING FOR AN S197 VIDEO FOR A MINUTE
3g life bb
Mbn, I've been FIENDING for a fuckin '05 GTS
S197 lmao still at it I see
DSM GANG LETS GOOOO
“So you want a Lexus sc300/400”
I'd rather not after the so you want an IS300 episode. A GE is NOT a Supra motor
OldHunter Raziel it is the Supra engine lol, just naturally aspirated. The 2jz ge cane with usdm and jdm supras not all but some
@@oldhunterraziel5327 It is a Supra motor, the Supra had the 2JZ-GTE as the turbo option and the 2JZ-GE in the N/A model
@@AnthonyLivesTwice actually no it is not. It had higher compression and less beefier internals. A little different.
Acia da wolf it may have but it was still called the 2jz-ge lol
From Southern Wisconsin here. Bought my 92 Tsi awd November 2018, needed clutch and brakes. Thought no biggie, I owned one back in 2006-2009 I can get everything at the parts stores. True with the exception of the rear subframe and almost all of the control arms and trailing arms that attach to it. Car was rustier than I had initially thought, needed a complete new rear subframe and everything that goes with it. Only one shop makes what I need and that's Volk Metal Craft. Great stuff but really expensive, and they don't make 1g subframes yet. So I'm still out of luck. If anyone wants to buy one, just spend the extra money and get one that was loved. These are amazing cars, just do your homework on what is no longer available for them before you buy.
I owned a 1990 eclipse GSX for a few years. The previous owner damn near totaled it with "mods" but it drove and had a red talon that came with it as a parts car. The engine yeeted itself on first drive. Threw a timing belt within 20 minutes of owning it. After replacing the bottom end, the turbo had a couple blades that were cut up, but it seemed to be fine so I just kept driving it with a new bottom end. 2 months later, maybe 2 weeks of driving time, the turbo yeeted itself and sent shrapnel through the engine. This time, nothing survived. So, 1 crate motor later, I decided i was gonna be proactive in making sure it will be indestructible since I am a smart boy and learn from my mistakes(oh god how naive I was). Solid engine mounts, solid lifters, kevlar clutch(wtf was i thinking?). The cars already way to heavy clutch pedal was probably about 45lbs. The car shook so bad it melted the plastic that held on the front marker lights. I tried to fix them with zip ties but they disintegrated. Nothing less than full sized metal coat hangers held those things on. Of course the clutch master cylinder is in the middle of the car, since the AC(that I never even got to work) is directly behind the clutch pedal, so the 45lb pedal that operated the super clingy awful to drive clutch bent the bar that goes over the other 2 pedals to the master cylinder. All this happened in the first year of ownership. Even after all that, the car spent 90% of its time on jack stands.
Eventually I bent the frame on a hard launch because the previous owner cut the front frame up to fit the ebay turbo kit he put on it. I learned a lot about being a mechanic on this car, and it taught me many life lessons. Most the problems I had with the car were self inflicted but I would never lie to someone and tell them that DSM's are 'reliable'. Future buyers beware.
But with that being said, it may have been a POS. But it was a fast POS. And it was MY fast POS.
I had a manual 1998 2G Eclipse GS for about 13 years. I originally had been looking for a GSX but got impatient and picked up a non-turbo, it was still a great car.
"So you want a Galant VR4." I own a 91 VR4, I need this to happen.
Rare gem bro
Eclipse: I watched a lot of Fast & Furious
Talon: I watched a lot of Fast & Furious BUT i vape and wear monster energy hats!
Good one!
Still waiting on that "So you want a BMW E46", make me regret my life choices!
Fell in love with the GSX when the buster brought me back.
I need nos!!!
So you want wheels tires & suspension
Just bought a 95 Talon, guy before me has a bunch of aftermarket garbage on it, lord help me
Talk about the 3/4Gs. Great cars, have some decent tuning potential, nice community and criminally underappreciated. People love to judge them based on what they aren't (DSMs), but rarely on what they actually are. They deserve a chance.
YES!!! FINALLY!!! I have a 1997 Mitsubishi Eclipse RS and I been waiting for this for so long. THANK YOU FITMENT INDUSTRIES!!!!
Owned a 95 eclipse gsx around 05 when everyone laughed from my Honda friends.. now I will never find another gsx that isn’t over priced ...
I'm eagerly waiting for the "So you want" video on importing the Evo I, II, and III, maybe even looking forward to the IV, V, and VI over the next several years.
4g63> everything pull up.
2G Eclipse is what I aspire to own, wish me luck gentlemen
Crankwalk
U have to know about it
AWD launches over 4k kiss the transfer case goodbye and the timing cam holder tool is the best investment you gonna make
Nika Tskhovrebadze Yeah i heard, i also heard it’s prone to occur for 2GA 95-97 models, and is likely to happen the more horsepower it makes, but i’m not sure, regardless that will be a problem i’ll do my best to put up with and remedy
99 GS-T spider...
1day...
Love theses videos , all the host are real good to explain and know their thing's. They got their own way to do it to! Shoutouts to Gels, Dakota and Alex and the prod, keep it up!
Been waiting on this one! FINALLY.
My favorite DSM was the 2g Talon TSI I owned 2 only thing I didn't like was no one made aftermarket rear taillights for them only the eclipses unless you retro fit a eclipse rear bumper nd not officially off a DSM assembly line but I've always had a soft spot for the 3g eclipse to still stayed true to the DSM ways by using a Chrysler chassis and mitsu motor the v6 done right could rip!
My daily driver is a 99 eclipse gs (given time me by my aunt who was the only owner). 60k original miles and still going kinda strong. I only do reg maintenance cause proper mods are costly but it will be my project car in the future. Lol. Always loved the car
I love and miss my 96 TSI AWD. Had to have been one of the funnest cars I've owned. I purchased it new and finally parted with it in 2012. The 90's was a great time to build these cars.
That is easily the best intro spiel from Alex that I’ve ever heard in any video. I’ve never had to stop the video just to laugh before, but MAN that angelic choir for like a quarter of a second had me rolling
if you cant handle dsm mood swings, you shouldnt be in the custom car culture
I’ve been waiting for this too long! Thank you Alex!!!
I love my dsm!! People complain about reliability but mine ran strong for a long time on blowing up when I and I admit I cranked up the boost without a tune
Your car is beautiful man. This is the car the I loved the most as a kid, the looks never get old imo
Thank you for this I been waiting on this one ✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿
So you want a classic car, that would be a sick episode and would connect with a whole other part of the car community!!
The best part about a DSM is the daily walks with your crank
I absolutely loved my '97 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS-T. Such a fun, easily moddable car. That was, until ...CRANKWALK. I wish you'd have discussed this in this vid. Thanks for the fun trip down memory lane!
Kirk Kiyosada Tome 當銘清貞 In what year did that happen to you?
@@georgieperezjaiman9403 September of 2001 (yes, right before 9/11). It was my '97 GS-T, which required multiple clutch replacements and suffered two engine failures because of said crankwalk. I refused to repair it after the second occurrence and it ended up rotting away in my garage before I sold it for scrap.
Kirk Kiyosada Tome 當銘清貞 Ohh, I asked cause i haven’t seen someone said that had a Cranwalk in this decade. I guest all dsm have been already fixe from that issue or in a junkyard
@@georgieperezjaiman9403 Yeah, the issue was that while nearly every part of the engine came from the Japanese Evo, the major exception was the crankshaft (well, that and the Garret T25 turbo), which caused premature main thrust bearing failure, allowing the crankshaft to shift in the engine (hence, crank"walk"). You can imagine how bad things can get when something that is spinning at 7k rpm is allowed to wiggle back and forth. The typical cause for failure is destruction of the crankshaft angle sensor, which basically is like dropping a grenade inside of the engine, sending shrapnel flying everywhere. It was a major, major problem with the second-gen DSMs. I believe that this wasn't an issue on the first-gen, since the crankshaft was also from the Evo. By the third-gen, Mitsubishi was using a completely different V6 or the old NA I4 instead of a forced-induction I4 (4G63), so they wouldn't have experienced this.
98 and 99 did not crank walk fyi😂
I was just looking for this video by you guys yesterday and noticed you didnt have one. I got on today and you uploaded a video on it. What a coincidence.
So you want a Honda Civic SI? Can we get that episode
@@brianscofield6921 no-no, Honda Civic SI
Honda Civic SI
@@brianscofield6921 used to have a del sol, loved it
@@brianscofield6921 I own my dream car my 07 Honda Civic si sedan, but if it really were to be, either a jdm Honda Civic type r 1999 hatch, or 2008 Honda Civic fa5 Type R 4 door. Wat about you?
Yes, sol.
I have been waiting for this episode... just picked up a gst, been great so far lol
DSM love :)
been waitin for this for so long :D
@@DialoX ikr :D
Not gonna lie I always had been wanting to own a late 90s eclipse...dont care if it was slow, just looks really sporty and nice .
“Some odd interests” with the Ramen and OSRS character...😂 I’m dead 💀
It's funny because I'm working out of town... playing some OSRS... and watching delivery notifications stack up for my 91 Talon TSI AWD. 😂😂😂
I have 1999 Gsx sitting in my garage next to my Wrx....
Lowered my last Talon 2" for the summer. Best it ever looked.
I love my 98 GSX. Out of all 5 of the DSM’s I’ve owned it’s my favorite.
Oh my gosh this boy just broke out the plasma pistol BR combo in a car video. You have earned my like!
I'll always be here on time 😇
Bringing back memories when I witnessed a 1st gen Talon TSi ripping and FC RX7 Turbo II appart in them street races back in Caguas PR, back between 00-03!!
I waited for this video since ive subscribed and im not disappointed
I know this isn't the first time I've seen a Runescape reference in one of your guys' videos. All I wanna say is that I love it.
Picked up a 95' gst about 7 months ago and i already dumped 3k lol so many small problems but if you know what ur doing, it'll be fun and worth it in the end.
Thank you for teaching all the internet kids what dsm means 👍🏻
HE SAID VARROCK OR VARROCK LOOOL
Old school or rs3 though lol
Nice video. My DSM 2G is reliable even though its being built for time attack. The car never got modified before me so it was a freah start and its always done right!
Problems really are owners who half ass or dont know what they are doing
Finally! The video I've been waiting for. I love my 2G GSX.
i have daily driven my 91 mitsubishi mighty max / dodge ram 50 4 cyl 5 spd and so far i have loved it, no problems so far
Bro the eclipse gsx (2nd gen) is my dream car. Love it
I currently own a 91 awd talon a 97 gst spyder and a 98 gsx. The gsx is going to give its life so the spyder can be awd. I love my dsm's I've been driving them for about 20 years. If you build them right and properly maintain them they are great cars.
So you want an EF/EG/EK Civic?
We got the new boi Type R, time to throw back to the 90's JDM
ahh DSM... just when you thought you fixed the last thing.. the crank walks :D
I proudly daily'd a big turbo 95 awd talon for like 3 years back in the day
Finally. The video ive beeen waiting forrr 🥳🔥
Why do I relate to the ranch comment so much?
I have a 97 Eclipse GST that I'm building and man, that intro hit hard LMAO
yess thank you i’ve been waiting for this
The laser rs is the one too have. It's the only one you can have with basic trim and awd turbo while the eagle talon and mitsubishi eclipse get full loaded with the turbo and awd
Interesting iv always liked the uniqueness of the laser I never knew you couldn't get them fully loaded
DSM owner right here 🙋🏽♂️
I wonder if ill still be binge watching Fitment Industries by the next decade.. already been 2 watching for 2 years 🤷♂️
I love/like the Mitsubishi Eclipses and personally I recommend to be real PATIENT owning one. Anyways, 420a engine or 4g63. Doesnt matter. I have a Mitsubishi Eclipse 1997 420a/5speed. I'm fixing up my project car to be in good condition with temporary fix. Man it needs a lot of work and still does. 3rd previous owners or more idk, I bought it for 400$. The car was a miracle to even drive from Bakersfield to LA where I purchased it.
As of right now, here are the car condition it had and what I've done to it throughout the year (1/2019)
- Transmission pivot ball wear/bad (tip plastic made) - (temporary fix, shove 3-4 pennies between pivot ball and clutch fork to clutch/shift in gear properly)
- Transmission shifter cable literally hang by 1 thread and ripped apart after arriving to LA (replaced it)
- between the transmission and engine sheet plate is damaged/bend, it would contact with the starter & flywheel teeths (temporary adjust it but clutch pedal all the way down to shift gears smoothly)
- clutch slave cylinder was strip and leaked (replace it)
- some camshaft bolt was strip af (drilled out the strip thread and install pitch threads)
- Crankshaft pulley misaligned (replaced it correctly)
- Alternator was intermittently bad (rebuild it)
- Car overheated (Bleed out coolant system and replaced all coolant hoses)
- Gas tank had a drilled hole from a previous owner. For those who own a 1995-1997/2nd gen eclipse and plan to install from a 1998-1999 2gen 2piece rear seat. Please do not drill a hole. The gas tank literally 2-4inches away underneath the body. (drop gas tank and JB weld it)
- last but not least, engine bay wire harness was a half a** repaired and 7-8 connector was mimic over with electric tape. (I had to pro-solder the connector and redo/check the entires wire harness if repair needed. Including the signal light harness.)
- Overall, collect & replace interior/exterior and do service maintanence. Other than that, needs a paint job.
It drives great but has a small rough idle because old car and fuq me for being a car culture guy lol jk but the car has 260,000 mileage. All I need to do is smog the car.😭😢😫🙏🏼
This based on car work experience and professionally knowledgeable on cars. This is what its like to own a eclipse. This is for all car enthusiastic who love/hate your own car. Stay strong but save financially. 😎
as someone who owns a car from the Mitsubishi/chrysler partnership... they made some nice cars ;) got a 1977 chrysler lancer... yes lancer. AND best of all... rwd ;) hoping one day to do a series of swapping an evo motor into it but my channel is nowhere near the size to get the support for that yet ahaha. maybe a 20k subs special it can come.
Don’t forget about the pistol and the plasma pistol combo! Plasma pistol and br is 👌🏻
I was just near Normal Illinois and the electric truck company Rivian recently bought the plant and track.
I still love brand new bottles of ranch in the fridge. That's the best example to date. My eyes light up because I can buy carrots, eat them with chicken nuggets and barbecue sauce, It's always a win when a ranch bottle's new!
I just saw that it was posted I haven't even watched it yet thank you for posting this
history lesson is the best part of these vids :)
Got a 97 GST and 99 GSX. LOVE DSMs and looking for a decent TSi . The 4g63 is an amazing if not the best 4cyl motor you can put in a vehicle. Theres a reason it was used all the way into the Evo IX.
My first car was a 90 gsx when I was 16 in 1996. I went to h.s. in a small town and there were only about 10 cars worth racing each other. Pretty much 90's cars were slow unless you spent alot of money. I was able to get a larger turbo, fmic, clutch upgrade and many trinkets I've forgotten. Nobody thought a 4cyl could be quick but I soon became a top street racer. This car broke and broke over and over. My dad wanted it so we swapped and I got a 95 mustang GT last yr of the 5.0. Now people assumed I had a fast car with the flowmasters and burnouts but it felt like a slug compared to the eclipse. With bolt ons in each car my dad and I raced each time we put on new speed parts. The races were essentially the same. He would jump me 2.5 cars due to AWD and around 100mph he would be 5 cars ahead and I would hold that momentarily until the mustang fell flat on its face around 120mph and he became a spec in front of me. I couldn't get the mustang to go more than 135 while the eclipse topped out in the mid 140's. Alot of fun back then but even the quick eclipse wouldn't be any competition to the sports cars of today without alot more $ put into it.
there is some nostalgia... bought one of these in 2001 before the whole tuner thing got started. it was fun telling v8's that they got beat by a 2.0l i4.
Had 3 DSM's when I was younger. Talk about love/Hate relationship. When left stock, they were dead reliable. Anything north of 400HP and you were gluten for punishment!
So 600whp... what's that make me? 😂
Ughhhh miss my 94 Eagle Talon!
Great episode!
That intro is so accurate
saw the zoom up terubi commercial and liked this video immediately
You guys post this the SAME day I sell my 99 Eclipse for like a grand.
Do you guys have any MN12 aftermarket? I'm looking for some exterior moulding for my '97 Thunderbird V8.
The first gen version of the Mitsubishi version looked so cool.
I will not stop, I will never stop because I know my e46 brothers and sisters are behind me. As long as I draw breath and as long as my e46 runs strong I will never give up because I thank god I own my e46.
“So you want an e46”
she might be a none M but she is driven like one
She might be AWD but I fly when it’s raining and no one can catch me.
Please “so you want an e46”
👀👀👀