Camshaft Only Worth It For Hellcat? DYNO TESTED!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ม.ค. 2023
- Given how responsive Hellcats are to relatively low-cost modifications, and also that stock long blocks handle pretty crazy power, camshaft normally isn't first in line on the modification roadmap. But let's be real, we all love that chop-chop. And if that's all you're after, what kind of performance can you expect with camshaft only on an otherwise stock Hellcat? In this video, we answer that exact question!
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Nothing as intoxicating and mesmerizing as a lopey idle! That cam must have a longer duration and tighter LSA.
I’m loving the daily content and that you are solving questions people may have to save them future $$$$
Just had my 6.1 cammed and long tubes added. Highly commend National Speed.
Love it! Thanks again. I’ll be in touch
We love what you did with our Durango!!! It hits 80 sooooo much faster, thanks for featuring it!!!
How much did it cost?
Love the Mopar content lately keep up hellcat content
fantastic videos
With all the parts already removed, a pulley upgrade along with blower spacers would have made it. Despite that more amount for labor cost
The only time you should go cam in a 6.2L Hemi is when you stroke the motor. Outside of that you loose almost 60ft pounds down low which you need to get these land barges moving. Pulley E85 and tune for the best bolt on gains from stock.
Customer commented and said the 0-80 was faster after the cam so ur wrong
@@ByIntrosyou’re correct having just a little less actually helps to not spin tire.
Interesting video; I'm assuming you locked VVT, what cam specs was it?
I’m not sure why there’s so many folks coming on here throwing shade on your decision to go with the cam. The video was posted to show people what a cam does to a stock hellcat. Honestly that things a beast and sounds phenomenal. For your future plans with the Durango I hope it turned out well.
Tighten that LSA to around 110 and lower duration if necessary for clearance. You will gain EVERYWHERE! Running more duration with relatively wide LSA hurts average power numbers. You might get some top end benefits but lose everywhere else. Doesn'take semse except on all out race applications.
Thats not worth it.
🙁 maybe for higher mileage engine, if your doing refresh 🤔
I think it is for the sound 🥵
Hmmm....I got around 70hp from mine and also changed the rods and pistons with a 7k rpm
How much do you fellas think it would pick up running ported heads and 20 psi ?
2:54 I thought you snapped the bolt😂
The real gain is better traction with the power where you actually want it
Would've benefitted even more with a 2.85 upper 👍
Like he stated in the video you’ll get better gains in power doing many other mods, but couple that cam with those other mods and boy do these come to life. 🤙🏻
Hey did you lose boost with the cam? Can you increase redline a little?
Great subject and video btw!
When you increase efficiency you loose boost , (this is not bad) you just need a new tune because the stock tune is not enough, a great example is you don’t need to rev it to 15 psi , since at a lower psi you’re pushing the same amount of power
Add a catback and headers and she’ll definitely be pushing or just a catback if you aren’t crazy about super loud cars
Yep! Even mid-pipe and 2.85" upper supercharger pulley would set this thing off. When Brandy gets the itch for more, she knows the game plan!
@@NationalSpeedInc that’s what i wanna do to my 5.7 i already got long tubes and a catback i just gotta make the three hour trip to y’all this summer i wanna actually enjoy this car had it for two years and it’s still stock
@@Shawnie_sama Totally worth it on a 5.7L! We've got some super relevant content coming on that topic.
Dang truck made 686 wheel stock? That's pretty good.
Yeah I was wondering about that!
Stock cam looks like it has some wear on it
Don't guess we will ever learn. These engines want a tighter LSA, but the status quo rules the day. Try that same cam with a 110 LSA. The stock cam with a 108 LSA would probably make more horsepower and a LOT more torque than this aftermarket cam. I've also heard the argument that we don't need more torque and then they build a stroker motor. Go figure???? I guess logic is a rare commodity these days. Thanks for the vid though. I did enjoy watching knowing the gains were going to be minimal compared to the cost. Just the wrong grind for that motor.
I’m fairly new to the mopar community, would you mind explaining why these engines want a tighter lsa? I’m looking into cams and quite can’t wrap my head around it. Thanks
@@jacobwest5070You Rt on the Tq. Any street racer know like I do . I build my LS motors for higher HP under the curve with just enough tq to 60ft but my tq vs HP numbers seem a lot off but . Wk and keep me truning on win lights or Go pro finish line video ahead when it cm to small town not good prep drag strips and bk road or even no prep water burn out or glue prep . Regardless tq ant what you focus on dealing with big $ Grudge Racing. Not a Dodge nor Ford guy that pink blood don't run through my body. But just like SBC Gen 1, 2 an LS Gen 3, 4 an up to Lt stuff I remember old school drag racers telling me well that stall converter to loose a 36- an up was to loose for a nos motor then it was cam to big not understanding the new Gm Ls Lt motors have really no big clearance issues vs Sbc from the bottom end crank being able to fit a 4 inch stroker crank pull out stock crank directly drop in stroker crank due to GM LS Lt motors don't have clearing issues up tord the top end really no big clearance issues besides a slit bore and hone to fit the bigger stroker pistons rods on to a stock LS can fit 260/270 , 650ish I've seen more duration and lift I have ran these combos so I'm not making this due to GM LS factory pistons rods crank motors have no. Fly cutting clearance issues even on OEM stock Gm pistons. And being the 1st to have skirted blocks vs non skirted on Sbc Gen 1, 2 Ford older motos also slow a factory LS motors to perform an stay stroner then even the after market Dart ECT motors. Before Gm came along with the LS motors. It was unheard of reliable HP from a stock car maker motor vs aftermarket motors. And the worst Gm Ls heads out flow the best sbf bbf heads any day of the week
I’m curious how much boost dropped after the cam
None that I’ve seen. It was fast before but now it just teleports to where you want to go lol!!
I’ll double check max boost when she gets back from being out of town.
@@muricancars797please do less boost with a cam = less heat =more power=less chance of detonation
@@utahcountypicazospage5412 I see 11lbs of boost.
On na 6.1 or 6.4 with a good cam have seen 50whp, on a hellcat should be 80-100whp gain. Not 14 😂 u gain more with a intake or long tubes.
It’s unlikely you’re going to find a cam for a 6.2 that will make 80+ horsepower unless you stroke the engine and can fit a bigger lsa
Mopar baby
20 hp ?! 😂😂😂 just get it tuned
Lot of money for small gains.
How much did this cost?
It was right around $5k. But the base work is done to add on to if we want to down the road.
@@muricancars797 it sounds great! But personally I would not spend that much for sound alone. I would only do it if I fully intended to add on in the future but that is just me. Did you have the crank pinned while they were in there?
@@allengregory4067 you familiar with the phrase “happy wife, happy life?” 😂 I didn’t want to do just that either but at same time I didn’t want to crank it up to 850hp. We drive it everywhere, it has 55,000 miles. Been across country twice etc. so we need it to not be too crazy hauling us all around but she wanted the old school muscle car sound which I don’t blame her. Yes, we had the crank pinned at the same time!
@@allengregory4067 what really amazed me was the tune. I’m on the forums and see the horror stories, these guys did a phenomenal job. Absolutely zero issues runs and drives like stock. Turned out nice
@@muricancars797 oh my gosh you just cracked me up with the wife thing 😂! Guess I didn't think of that. I have to admit it sounds awesome.. one of the best hellcat engines I have heard. Was not aware of the problems on the forums but I hope it works out great for you. I was waiting until my warranty expires before considering any serious mods to my hellcat.
You exchanged all that horsepower just to get a cam sound makes a lot of sense you guys are don't know what you doing all that for the chop
Pretty much what every ls guy does…..huge choppy cam to gain 50hp
I didn't "exchange" any horsepower. I gained some. And my wife is the primary driver, she wanted the chop chop. Happy wife, happy life. It's got 40,000 miles on that cam with zero issues (other than adding oil).
@@slomango792750 is a lot more than 15
2023 with video cam footage from a 2008 Nokia... say it aint so
a cam on a hellcat just for like 20whp is hilarious asf XD when a cam on a 5.7 or 6.4 yields like 100whp yea its a definite no on a 6.2 lmao!
Definitely waisted money
total waste of time