This thing really should have included the option to have a signal directly between the Portal and PS5 (as long as you are within a certain range of the console) for a consistent, solid experience. And then allow wifi for all other scenarios.
@@c1nnabun The Vita did allow this with the PS4. Though my experience with that wasn't great. Whether using wifi or the direct link between the Vita and PS4, sometimes it would be playable, but more often than not it wasn't. This was even with me holding the Vita inches away from the PS4. So even if they had included the option to do a direct connection between the Portal and PS5, I still would have waited for reviews to see how well that worked, but at least it would have been a step in the right direction.
Yesterday while playing the portal my son came in and said our WiFi had gone out. And it had. We had an outage in the area but the portal stayed connected the whole time and never disconnected. I even switched games to see what would happen and it let me play. I don’t know how this worked but it did.
@@michaelmyersplays4992it could easily. They could easily make a steam deck esque portable that could play psp in 4k, and ps2 and ps3 games. Devices like the ROG Ally can play almost all ps4 era titles at 60fps, they are missing a lot of potential here
Man I’ve been playing my vita lately and I’m pretty disappointed that Sony did not put charging contact pins like the 3DS And now they missed the chance again Even The Wii U game pad can be charged on a dock
@@subtegral I think the point was that it doesn't have a "no hassle" connector to charge, just a standard USB-C port (in an awkward spot). The Vita dock was just a Vita connector in a plastic housing to hold it up, similar to Switch's dock. Simply using it would wear out the connectors over time. 3DS and Wii U pad had exposed charging contacts so it just has to sit on top of a matching charging port (usually on a dock).
@@Appl_Jax I don't think the Vita 1000 charging dock wears out the USB connectors over time. I think owner abuse wears out the connectors over time. There was also a charging dock for the Vita 2000. It was small, black, and oval. I tried looking it up online a few years ago and it's almost like it never existed. I know it existed because I once had a 2000 model and the dock for it. Now I have a trusty crystal white Japan model 1000 that I installed a new battery into. I also rebuilt a sapphire blue Japan model a few years ago and sold it. TMI?
The sticks are very easy to replace so probably not. We’re likely to see a ton of returned systems from people who didn’t realize you needed a PS5 though
They should have added the replaceable sticks the edge controller has, I think it was really stupid not to incorporate them....its only a matter of time before these sticks start drifting
It would have been cool for an added bonus if it played digital ps classics, psp, and vita games natively giving it some form of use above cheaper competitor options that already do remote play, not really seeing the hook here besides "official branded in-house product"
It's an accessory not a new handheld console. If the PS5 doesn't natively have any of those you mentioned then what makes you think the Portal will have it? 😂
What competitors? 😂 Backbone is 100 dollars but worth 25 and an uncomfortable pos for what it's worth. This things an accessory it's not trying to compete in the saturated standalone handheld market which steam and Nintendo dominates. It's a niche like the ps headset and vr stuff. This is aiming at millennials and budding parents like me. im enjoying the heck out of it.
I'm loving mine. Playing Astro again along with Spider-Man 2 and Red Dead Redemption. As a gamer and a dad, this gives me the freedom to game how I want. And I can escape to the shitter and play without mounting a TV in the bathroom.
I returned mine. I have 600mbps internet with a mesh system and the lag was real. I even tried setting up a static ip for my ps5 . When it worked well it was great but it was a 50/50 shot that the lag was there.
Steam deck and rog ally both can do remote play. I tried the ally. Windows on a 7in display sucks . I sold my steam deck for it and retired it. I may grab the oled deck. It can remote play my pc and ps5
You didn't mention there is no web browser so some wifi connections that require a login cannot be used. Basically you are still locked to using it on your own WiFi.
"So I got the Ark of the Covenant from some warehouse. I decided to open it up, see what's inside and give you guys my thoughts." -Spawn Wave (if he ever gets the opportunity)
This thing would’ve honestly been more useful during the covid days when you’re just stuck in your room and if your ps5 is in the entertainment center just get your portal and play your ps5 while you’re stuck in your room
It's winter. Most people are at home. And if you work for a living, you probably want to spend the few hours you have each night sitting back or laying from the comfort of bed.
@@gamerstimes127certainly not cheaper at all if you wanted a monitor with hdmi 2.1 and vrr since the PS5 requires it. Portal is a much better solution. This thing exists for families that have gamers and non gamers competing for the tv
It bothers me when talking about something like the PS Portal or cloud gaming everyone seem to focus only on input latency and image quality, nobody seem to bring up the fact it eats up your internet cap. You know, not everyone has the luxury to have unlimited or lightning fast internet, most people outside of the United States use capped internet with varried download speeds, also unlike TH-cam and Netflix where the video is pre-recorded and is highly compressed streaming games require a constant refresh in high quality.
If you are using a portal its not using your internet connection to transfer data it's your inside wifi no data is wasted for steaming a game from your console. Streaming a game from a server outside of your home costs data. If you are somehow using data why streaming from a console in your home you have been hacked and someone is routing your data through them then back to you to monitor what you are doing.
The PS Portal streams from a PS5 using WIFI and not Internet, but SONY will probably enable PS Premium/ Cloud Streaming later. They even recently acquired iSIZE a company specialized in video and data compresion probably to address data volume
So does streaming TV shows and Movies and nobody brings up that when talking about netflix. This is no different. If your internet can't handle it, don't get it.,
@@PsychologyOK Yes it does get brought up. Data usage is always huge issue when it come to any kind of streaming. Game streaming uses way more data though than netflix/youtube.
@@ToxMod Most people agree that PS Portal is a E-Waste tier consumer product. It's reparability is 0 and achieves nothing you can't do with a Long 10m HDMI cable and a cheap $100 monitor
@@ToxMod Premature of what?! We all have plenty of specs\information and use case scenarios to make any informed judgment and opinion. You might not like it but anyone is entitle of it's own.
The fact that it doesn’t have a web browser to access hotel WiFi is a major flaw, how are you supposed to take this portability if you can’t access most free WiFi, and no I’m not going to hot spot it for an hour
@@michaelmyersplays4992Sounds like you don’t travel much or you’d know that cell service isn’t perfect is every city and can depend on your network provider too.
I believe that the SG4150P Is actually a downclocked SM4250AA aka snapdragon 460 (Nearly Identical to the 662 In every way). I wouldn't be surprised if QUALCOMM gave Sony a custom model number if they made a slight change or just binned version of the 460.
I got one. I absolutely love the thing. I had 1 disconnect during the roughly 15 hrs. I’ve had it connected to the console for. And it reconnected in about 5 seconds. No issues on Wi-Fi with frame rate or blurry noisy graphics. Even with 3 other family member streaming TH-cam I have had no hiccups yet over Wi-Fi. The ps5 IS NOT hard wired into my Starlink router.
Well you didn't tell the whole story, like how fast your internet is. I'm still on copper wire, the upload speed is really mediocre (30mbps), if I have multiple people streaming videos at the same time I may have very blurry video on the PSP.
I want one for remote play using an iPhone hotspot. How does it handle that? Won’t be playing any multiplayer games, just want one for when it’s slow at work
On third Dual Sense controller in 3 years also starting to suffer same stick drift issues. Original SKU and new. The ultimate stress test with Portal will be time, and I don’t think it will fair any better.
@@XVNRXThe DS4 that came with my launch PS4 got stick drift and the DS that came with my launch PS5 also developed stick drift. Had to get a new one to finish FF XVI because the game has like a zero percent dead zone. I never had any stick drift on any other console. Even my launch joy-cons are still fine. It’s been only DS that came with the console for me, so I’d also be cautious about the Portal if there is no easy way to repair it.
@@XVNRX have you considered the fact that you have 5 controllers means likely you cycle through them so each one gets less action. Less play will decrease the chances of any wear and tear, accidents, etc. Most players have 1 or 2 controllers at a time which just increases the rate of handling. There’s so many factors besides that too. Casual vs 6+ hour a day players. Clumsiness is an issue on my end. I’ve got the habit of letting my controller fall off my arm chair . Afraid it’ll land the wrong way someday. 😅
I added an antennas to mine, and it fixed a lot of the problems. I don’t know what PlayStation was thinking, having not very much signal on this thing and now I can walk between a wall of refrigerator and everything else and it does not get cut off anymore. I do not lose any more Internet signal or anything, it works so much better now I am happy I fix the problem myself I’m adding this part this is supposed to be a dedicated remote play device. It should work better than any other remote play devices or any remote play on your phone or any other devices Sony literally said it’s a dedicated device and it’s going to be working better on remote than other devices which is all untrue. It works way worse that’s just the sad fact they need to majorly fix this problem.
Shouldn’t have to do that, there’s handhelds that can play 35 years worth of games that have flawless Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and touchscreen out of the box for half the price. Sony should do better, no doubt within a year they announce a refresh with slight upgrades.
@@XRKGX especially when the psp and vita slap, they have the potential to really step into the market and they fumbled it, especially making it a ps5 companion. Most people don’t even have a ps5 still.
LMAO He just rambles on for 15-20 mins a video, most of the time he doesn't even have any visual stimuli. It's just him standing there. This man is a foot.
I get that it would limit its portability - one of its major selling points - but I don't get why Sony didn't offer the ability to plug the portal into the PS5 and use it like a monitor/screen directly rather than streamed. Would make it more appealing to people with poorer wi-fi connections. Just sell it with a 2-3m long cable.
This would of sold me on it. I have a 300Mbps connection and remote play still hiccups for me. This device would make me mad I think just like my tablet using remote play.
@@edgaryzen4925 when it works it's fine. But I get alot of poor connection notifications. I was hoping the portal would of connected different. Maybe more like how the Wii U. That thing worked great as long as you were 20 feet from the console.
@@asdfdc1946 The Wii U seemed to be an attempt to adapt the DS style of gameplay to a home console. But that idea was flawed from the start because the DS screens were attached to each other so they would always be in view for the player. I don't think anyone plays their home console with their controller in view all the time. Even developers didn't seem to know what to do with the Wii U since most games just used the gamepad for menus and maps. It didn't exactly justify the gamepad.
@@OtavioFesoares Not really. Like I said in my comment, the main gimmick of the Wii U was second screen features. The Switch follows more of something like the Sega Nomad or the Gameboy player or the PSP with video out cables.
Maybe one day Sony will get their PS3 backwards compatibility in a better state and you can play the Orange Box for PS3 on their newest console, and play Portal.
I *absolutely can not* believe that scalpers are *actually* making profit on these right now. Who on earth could possibly be desperate enough to get what is essentially a Wii U tablet for the PS5, especially considering your phone can literally do the same thing right now. Here's hoping the scalpers get stuck with hundreds of these paperweights soon.
Lol they aren't making money don't worry. Scalpers buy up almost everything big from name brands to try to flip it. This is going to lose a lot of scalpers a lot of money.
Yesterday I played the Portal most of the day. Late in the evening we had a WiFi outage but my portal continued to play and never disconnected. I even switched games just to see what would happen and it stayed connected the whole time. I don’t know how this happened or worked but it did.
Because WiFi and Internet are 2 separate things. You have a router that has a wifi connection. The router recieves "the internet" and sends it thru it's wifi signal. If there is no Internet you can still access your wifi network no problem. It would have been different if you were playing over the internet but you were playing over your network.
Why is everyone so bitter about a device? I like mine because I’m a new dad and I can game where my child is sleeping, or in bed at the end of the night. Everything isn’t for everyone and that’s okay. No need for the tears and tantrums. Do I wish it had more capabilities, absolutely! But I was using an iPad and my single controller and pairing it every time. Now I have one singular dedicated device to charge. My controller stays downstairs with my PS5 and I’m all good.
Ps portal is awesome! I used to stream games from 1 room away! It’s so convenient! I don’t need to move out of the kitchen away from the refrigerator anymore!
The controller being textured and white will make it a hand grime magnet, just like the regular dual sense. Expect to have to clean it a lot, no matter how clean your hands look.
Yeah, that’s just good practice anyway for hygiene. It’s disgusting whenever I see a game pad that’s full of grease, grime, what have you, on the internet. It’s like, how can you let that happen to you equipment? Just like cleaning a gun each time you use it at the range.
My controller is still perfectly white. Wash your hands and wipe it down with a microfiber cloth every month or two. Also can use a tiny bit of distilled water if you need it.
people who write these comments freak me out, ive never seen a dirty controller like these people describe, ive never cleaned my controller in 2 years it looks brand new, and im not a light user. i think if youre getting your controllers dirty you need to re-evaulate your hygene
Everyone's best use case for this device seems to be when someone else is taking up the TV. But has anyone brought up the fact that you could buy an entire TV for the price of this thing?
For me, its about wanting to be able to be out keeping an eye on the kids or just out with the family while having the option to game. I get way more use out of my Switch than i do my ps5 because i can play out in the living room while being with everyone. Playing on a console requires me to be in a separate room. With a handheld i can be engaged with the fam and play.
I bought one of these because I have real problems playing on a TV screen with my eyesight being the way it is and so far it's been great for me, it's made my games much much accessible. I'm getting sick of people saying 'It's a waste of time, bro' and 'Just use your phone and a Backbone, bro' and 'Just get a Steam Deck, bro' and other such comments, usually with 'bro' in them 🙄 If you don't want one, fine..just don't get one and ignore it. Not everything has to be made to cater to you, and sorry it's upset you so much that you feel the need to rage in every comment section about it to seem 'cool'. But do you also hate other controllers that people with disabilities use that are of no use to you, but amazingly helpful to them? And that's not to mention all the other people who find it useful if they have kids or family using the TV a lot and don't want to just 'get another TV, bro' either. I get that people are despatste for another 'proper' Sony handheld but this was never, ever promised as one if you actually followed the news about it. But there's still plenty of us who find stuff like this handy to have.
I'd like to think that the people who make those comments aren't referring to people in your use-case scenario. It's just that the device seems a little unnecessary when I can already do the same thing on my phone or tablet that I already have.
I have a counter argument without using "bro" in it. While certainly there is a percentage of people that might find it useful, busy families, people such as yourself etc. The discourse of people that have positive views of this product is overestimating the market for this, acting as if it is going to have the same success as a handheld console, the ps5 will have 50 million consoles in the market by early next year, this device will mainly sell in US and Canada, so reduce that amount by a lot. Now take less than 5% of that amount. I will really be surprised if it manages to sell 2 million worldwide due to how niche it is. It's great that it has a market but It's important that we do not pretend it has the same appeal as a handheld.
But bro! Why not just get your eyes fixed bro! Surely that’s cheaper and easier and less painful than this bro! Seriously bro! Brody bro brosephstein bro!
Here's what they didn't tell you: they weren't going to do literally anything to stop scalpers from depleting stock before the holidays. I don't care because I have a Steam Deck and can just be patient, but couldn't they more than absolutely nothing to make sure people can get one?
That was such a dumb thing to say. Wireless charging just means you have to set it down and leave it alone to charge. No gaming console has wireless charging and if they did it's just to charge morons more
The portal has way too many haters. As a dad who really only has time to play at night in bed, or while my girls are busy watching TV or playing around the house it meets all my needs. I look forward to knocking out my backlog.
I don't think you'd see a bluetooth chip on there even if it was supported, it's likely embedded in the SoC, the smoking gun would be a 2.4 ghz antenna printed on the PCB Also, what happens if you connect it to a PC? the SG4150P has a good wealth of known vulnerabilities, hopefully it will be jailbroken soon!
The DualSense Controller chip supports BT already doesn't it? That's how it connects to the PS5? So this technically should have it, just software locked
@@ru2225 yep, but that's in a different role (looking at motherboard pics though it looks like the antenna is connected to the SIE branded microcontroller)
If it's a standard Snapdragon 662 SoC then it should have a BT controller as part of the package, but it is software locked, possibly on such a low system level (hard coded to the bootloader) that it cannot be soft modded to enable it back.
@@elimalinsky7069 even if it's not locked, it still needs an antenna on the pcb connected to the radio on the SoC. If the antenna is not there there's nothing you can do.
Love it. Works great on the 5G hotspot network through my phone. I go out of town for my company and taking my PS5 with me was a hassle. Now I don't have to. ❤
If I had a PS5 and this portal, I would like to put it to the ultimate stress test. I live in an apartment and I have nephews come over using wifi, so would be interesting to see how it will play with my wifi setup.
Uhh.. Sounds like you're testing your network more than the portal. If your network can't handle that traffic then split the routing to a separate unit and get a better wifi beaming device like unifier or something 😂
Debatable. It's made by Sony so the connection might be slightly better and more compatible. Plus a larger screen and you can use your phone while playing
As someone who plays games away from my PS5 a lot like on work trips or travel or on break this is literally perfect for me I use my phone for remote play all of the time and the screen is just too small so the ability to have haptic feedback and the triggers while having a higher screen quality is exactly what I'm looking for and the $200 price range seems about right too
People will pay £200+ for a pro controller, but will shit on this as too expensive. I've played my PS5 more in the past few days as normally I would only play once the kids go to bed.
@@MURPHYL28 honestly. We have one TV in the house and have to share so I'm loving being on the couch playing while the wife is watching TV! It's perfect so far!
@@MURPHYL28 it's not an OLED but honestly it's a really good screen. Everything is a good size to read like subtitle wise it's better than using a phone. Plus it's 1080 so having the higher resolution really helps. My only complaint would be I wish it had a higher refresh rate but for 200 bucks it's really good!
I’m telling you getting rid of interference is a key thing. If you run it straight Wi-Fi, no hardwire my experience was terrible first day then I went into router settings and changed my 5 GHz network channels.and since then it’s been streaming great now ! I think my 5gh network was getting a lot of interference from neighbors WiFi possibly being on the same channel as me and I also changed display settings on ps5 to 1080p and turned off 120hz mode
A few thoughts on this: 1. I wish you could watch video on it. I understand pirecy concerns but I just want the convenience of watching an R rated movie without my son seeing it on the big screen. 2. It's great that it's 1080P but most people have 1080P -4K TVs now with a MUCH bigger screen. Unless someone is stuck with a 720P tv there is not much use to a 2nd screen. And besides if someone is able to get $200.00 odds are they are going buy a low cost 1080P TV first. 3. It's ok if you have 2 PS5s but most of us have only one. That means If someone is gaming on the big TV you can't use the portal since it mirrors what they see on TV. So if you wanna fire up the portal for fun it's not gonna go well if someone is playing on the big screen. 4. Should make it compatible with PS4 too. This is a "budget" device (budget compared to the PS5 pricetag) so it makes sense to market to those who still have only a PS4. This makes it inclusive to those on a budget as well.
Doesn't interest me, but might get one if it goes on clearance. I've heard it runs on Android so it shouldn't be too hard for hackers and homebrewers to crack it open. Despite the general negativity, there does seem to be a market for this device. I've seem comments from people who bought it and have a use for it and enjoy it. I think the people constantly ragging on it should just accept it isn't for them and move on instead of complaining about it. You don't like it, fine. Go find something you do like and talk about that. Why waste your time talking about something you don't like?
Here’s a work around for the whole headset thing. If you still want to use your Bluetooth headsets you can. Why’ll using the portal you can still connect your headsets to the PS5 mute the portals audio and you’ll still get the audio from the PS5 boom problem solved. Only downside is you still have to be in range of the PS5 with the headset but it’s a workaround for now.
This! This is the workaround. I have a wireless headset that connects to a dongle on my ps5 and I can hear the audio super far from the other side of my house which isn’t even how far I need it
Literally made for the dad/mom/room mate gamers that never have access to the one TV in the house and its all good until the internet goes out either intentially or not.
tbh it doesnt need a power brick, use your ps5 and if you happen to be in a niche situation where you actually manage to find good wifi or cellular outdoors it would either already be charged and if somehow its not charged use your phone charger
@@joshe272 so... the Dreamcast was the last game console they made and the controller had a unique design for it. Usually the wire or plug-in would be in the front however the DC Controller had 2 slots that took precedence mainly for the VMU integration. So in order to connect the controller to the system, the wire came facing downward in the same direction as the Sony Portal.
It would’ve been much better if they implemented a proprietary wifi solution similar to airdrop instead of remote play, to cut down latency and improve image quality - current remote play just aint it
What I don't get is why someone would get this PlayStation pad when you can get a Switch Lite for the same price that doesn't require an internet connection and you can connect any headphone to. Or just use your phone with a compatible Bluetooth controller.
When it comes to anti-consumer, Sony takes the cake, beating out companies such as Apple and themselves of all companies. This is almost, if not, on the level of the issue the PlayStation Vita had with the proprietary memory cards
While I think the lack of Bluetooth is clearly something Sony should be criticized for, I’d be lying if I said it affected me at all. Bluetooth audio devices are fine for music but syncing up video and audio I’m not a fan. Bluetooth latency sucks. I’d rather wire in some earbuds 10 times out if 10
I tried Astros Playroom with the portal and all the haptic feedback (rumble/adaptive triggers, etc) seemed quite weak compared to playing it with a regular dual sense controller.
@@XVNRX I compared both the portal to my ps5 controller, I feel the build quality of the portal lacks a bit. It doesn’t feel too notch like a ps5 controller while on your hand.
If the Portal had two missing features then I would totally get it (i) standard Bluetooth support (ii) play PS+ streaming games direct to the Portal The ability to play it on WiFi even when away from home is actually something which appeals a lot to me! If I were travelling for work every week still then I could take this with me and play when off work. The wait to play Persona 5 on my weekends was a nightmare!
It should have had its own little internal storage to download a few games and stream games off PS Now. The fact it lacks those makes it not a buy for me, when I can just use my current tablet and a Dualshock 5 to do the exact same thing. I guess the only perk is its a single device to charge and not multiple? The battery life alone on the device would have to be pretty massive to sell me on 'needing' it to have the perfect PS5 experience.
I may be one of the rare people this is for. I bought a PS Vita specifically to do remote play in the early PS4 generation. I put over a thousand hours into remote play and supposedly the streaming has gotten a lot better since then. Fingers crossed🤞
A lot of comments about what should have been included... Wireless charging, Oled 4k screen.... It's 200 quid for a reason guys. It's just an accessory. My main and only issue with this is the connection. In the UK the Internet is just trash so I'm struggling with that.
What they didn’t tell us? That we wouldn’t be able to play in most major hotels because the internet usually requires terms acceptance and an internet browser. Also, god damn Atlas. Nice off of Persona 5 already. They spent the last year going and shutting down all the SMT Imagine private servers and those weren’t charging anything.
@elcactuar3354 Exactly my point - if these companies that make tech aren't including the bricks with the expensive items that really should have them, then it's not a surprise that they don't include them with accessories like the Portal.
I’m a stickler for the rules, even on myself. Years ago, my then girlfriend(now wife) went half on the soon to be released Xbox 360. She reminded me that since it was a Christmas present and I had to wait. I did! As for my Portal, it wouldn’t help me as I am on the road and can play my PS5 or Xbox Series X any time I wish. I am also in a hotel room and the internet really sucks.
Pros- Great Connectivity on home WiFi. Can play CoD on MP even. Best feeling handheld-ish device. Think it’s cause it feels like an actual controller. Really good screen quality. This was a surprise to me. Ability to play PS5 games in another room where my system isn’t. Cons- Should be a fully capable handheld system, I.e a competitor to Steam Deck, Switch, etc. Needs cloud streaming.
The real thing Sony didn't tell people is the fact that just like the Duelsense controller, the analog sticks are _not_ hall effect so yeah, can't wait for this $200 portable device that is hard to disassemble, to just be permanently unusable in 1-3 years-assuming it doesn't kick the can within months just like the Switch lite. And if you want to just use the dpad and/or are into Fighting Games, its the same model from the duelsense as well which is just tragic.
All cell phones have the charger port at the bottom, the switch has the charging port at the bottom. Wireless charging isn't something that can happen for a $200 device.
what really bugs me is why does not have a proprietary wireless connection like the wii u that came out 10 years ago just up from 480p to 720p. The wii u was really impressive
Portal is FANTASTIC. It streams better than my phone or tablet somehow. The screen is bigger and you can play this at your friends. you DONT need to only be on your local wifi. I connected through my 5g hotspot and it worked. Then I went to my friends across town and connected to his wifi...was able to play from his place with basically zero lag. It was amazing actually and now he is thinking of getting one.
@@fseiba6718Yes, It's essentially just Remote Play. The connection searches locally first but if it recognizes that you're not on home wifi, then it broadens the search from whatever public hotspot (/or your phone hotspot) back to your PS5. However it will take a little longer depending on how good your connection is.
Streaming games will always be based on the connection you have. That remote play, cloud streaming of any type. I've had my port for a few days and use it at home an work. Yeah, some of us leave our house for work. From my limited use it works well for what I want to do. For the games that I want to play it works great that's both from my phone's hotspot and work internet. I know that the device my not be for everyone, but it doesn't have to. That's the point not everything is made for everyone in mind.
I'm still holding out hope that Sony will allow cloud streaming directly to this device. I pre-ordered it and have it, but haven't taken it out of the box yet.
@@drazzimusic it happens with every thing released. Something added, taken away, made smaller, made with oled, etc etc. Same will happen with the Portal. They are most likely working on it as we speak.
This thing really should have included the option to have a signal directly between the Portal and PS5 (as long as you are within a certain range of the console) for a consistent, solid experience. And then allow wifi for all other scenarios.
Vita allowed this right?
@@c1nnabun yes it did
@@c1nnabun The Vita did allow this with the PS4. Though my experience with that wasn't great. Whether using wifi or the direct link between the Vita and PS4, sometimes it would be playable, but more often than not it wasn't. This was even with me holding the Vita inches away from the PS4.
So even if they had included the option to do a direct connection between the Portal and PS5, I still would have waited for reviews to see how well that worked, but at least it would have been a step in the right direction.
@@FuturedynamoYou're right it wasn't that great... I even try to do a p s one game diablo thru remote play and it had a hard time..
Yesterday while playing the portal my son came in and said our WiFi had gone out. And it had. We had an outage in the area but the portal stayed connected the whole time and never disconnected. I even switched games to see what would happen and it let me play. I don’t know how this worked but it did.
I think Astro is a perfect mascot for PlayStation. They could even change his design throughout generations to align it with each console release.
That's what you gathered from this whole video?
it'd be ironic if playstation has a bot as a mascot and xbox has a pony as one.
if only they would release more games with him
Xbots and Sony Ponys
whoa! Touched a nerve there.@@no-barknoonan1335
I wish that Sony would have just made a damn PSP 3.
It’s not competing with Nintendo lol
Because there to lazy and want quick cash grab
@@michaelmyersplays4992it could easily. They could easily make a steam deck esque portable that could play psp in 4k, and ps2 and ps3 games. Devices like the ROG Ally can play almost all ps4 era titles at 60fps, they are missing a lot of potential here
@@droid4d279shocking a company doesn’t want to earn money 🤡
@@droid4d279 why are you bitter?😂
I love playing my portal sitting next to my router PS5 and big screen TV.
lol
I do this with my switch all the time. Sometimes I’d much rather game in handheld mode than my 65in oled
@@ap396z😂😂😂
@@ap396zlol..so dumb
For me its awesome I can play my ps5 everywhere I have great 5g speeds so I just use my hotspot and it works perfect for single player games
Man I’ve been playing my vita lately and I’m pretty disappointed that Sony did not put charging contact pins like the 3DS
And now they missed the chance again
Even The Wii U game pad can be charged on a dock
Vita has a charging dock though..
@@subtegral I think the point was that it doesn't have a "no hassle" connector to charge, just a standard USB-C port (in an awkward spot). The Vita dock was just a Vita connector in a plastic housing to hold it up, similar to Switch's dock. Simply using it would wear out the connectors over time. 3DS and Wii U pad had exposed charging contacts so it just has to sit on top of a matching charging port (usually on a dock).
They want you to stay in the ecosystem
@@Appl_Jax I don't think the Vita 1000 charging dock wears out the USB connectors over time. I think owner abuse wears out the connectors over time.
There was also a charging dock for the Vita 2000. It was small, black, and oval. I tried looking it up online a few years ago and it's almost like it never existed. I know it existed because I once had a 2000 model and the dock for it. Now I have a trusty crystal white Japan model 1000 that I installed a new battery into. I also rebuilt a sapphire blue Japan model a few years ago and sold it. TMI?
to be fair docks are so 2010, i was surprised to see pins on the ps5 controllers lol
Looking forward to seeing these flood the used market for sub $100 with stick drift.
scalpers r making money on these. ive never experienced dual sense drift in 3 yrs
@@solutionxerogood for you
But it's a known issue so why even comment that? Made yourself look like a fool
@@GiliverI just watched a breakdown where a guy said the sticks can be easily replaced in the case of stick drift. You're the fool now
The sticks are very easy to replace so probably not. We’re likely to see a ton of returned systems from people who didn’t realize you needed a PS5 though
@@Giliverbecause he's a fan boy
Great to hear Atlus sponsoring you. They have made some amazing games over the past few years.
I saw your comment before he got to the sponsor and was expecting the VPN instead lol
@@JonCrs10lol same and i was like "wow really? Atlus?" lmao
Indeed this. Enjoying Tactica right now :D
*Atlus
Which ones? Not that grim grimoire crap right?
They should have added the replaceable sticks the edge controller has, I think it was really stupid not to incorporate them....its only a matter of time before these sticks start drifting
So, it's only a matter of time before you need to buy another one? In other words, more money for Sony.
That's my concern to going to wait for the replaceable sticks if they ever come out going for the 3rd controller soon.
@@SakuraAvalon
Exactly. Sony clearly designed the Portal to be trashed when one thing breaks. It's a total cash grab.
It would have been cool for an added bonus if it played digital ps classics, psp, and vita games natively giving it some form of use above cheaper competitor options that already do remote play, not really seeing the hook here besides "official branded in-house product"
It's an accessory not a new handheld console. If the PS5 doesn't natively have any of those you mentioned then what makes you think the Portal will have it? 😂
That will be $300 - $400 dollars.
What other options? People keep talking about the Backbone but hell if I'm going to play PS5 with controllers attached to a stupid phone screen.
What competitors? 😂 Backbone is 100 dollars but worth 25 and an uncomfortable pos for what it's worth.
This things an accessory it's not trying to compete in the saturated standalone handheld market which steam and Nintendo dominates. It's a niche like the ps headset and vr stuff. This is aiming at millennials and budding parents like me. im enjoying the heck out of it.
@@FalconOfStormsexactly
Cnet should update their "The five most pointless Sony products ever" list. This thing should be top 1.
I would love it if you put it head to head against a PS4 remote playing to a Vita, and a PS3 remote playing to the PSP.
that would be an interesting experiment
dude remote play on the vita is so ugly and sucks to control. It couldn't even pass as an alternative to play for me. It's like I'll just wait lol
Thanks for doing the tear down and letting us know what’s happening with the tech inside. The information is appreciated. Keep up the good work.
Getting tire of these companies not providing a power brick
Bro stop crying it's been like 3 years
@@ChrisMaxCisnerosso according to you, its fine to accept bad treatment because its been a long time...
Do I think it’s ideal? No. But let’s not sit here and pretend that the vast majority of us don’t have 8 usb power supplies sitting around
@@isaiah123456wp7be real... do you not already have a usb charger?
(keep in mind if you have a PS5.... there's only one answer)
But who doesn't have a like 15 power bricks in a drawer?
I'm loving mine. Playing Astro again along with Spider-Man 2 and Red Dead Redemption. As a gamer and a dad, this gives me the freedom to game how I want. And I can escape to the shitter and play without mounting a TV in the bathroom.
I returned mine. I have 600mbps internet with a mesh system and the lag was real. I even tried setting up a static ip for my ps5 . When it worked well it was great but it was a 50/50 shot that the lag was there.
@OfficialRadmanthe Steam deck and ROG Ally don't play your PS5 library
Steam deck and rog ally both can do remote play. I tried the ally. Windows on a 7in display sucks . I sold my steam deck for it and retired it. I may grab the oled deck. It can remote play my pc and ps5
You didn't mention there is no web browser so some wifi connections that require a login cannot be used. Basically you are still locked to using it on your own WiFi.
"So I got the Ark of the Covenant from some warehouse. I decided to open it up, see what's inside and give you guys my thoughts."
-Spawn Wave (if he ever gets the opportunity)
Ahh yes, spawn wave terminating store warranty so you dont have to.
It took them 10 years but they finally made their own version of the Wii U gamepad
Given how Microsoft copies others we should see their version in the next generation after Sony pivots to something else.
EXCEPT the Wii-U one had much less latency
It’s not the same nigha
The Wii U Gamepad WAS the main controller for the console
Yall goofies need to stop saying that
@@XVNRXI agree it's not the same. The Wii U did it way better
@@OldMan_PJ they worked with logitech for the g cloud like a year ago but ok lol
At the end it's a more expensive "Wii U" Idea. I already hear ppl in my location, talking "i buy it's it get's reduced in price". "Not worth over 200"
This thing would’ve honestly been more useful during the covid days when you’re just stuck in your room and if your ps5 is in the entertainment center just get your portal and play your ps5 while you’re stuck in your room
It's winter. Most people are at home. And if you work for a living, you probably want to spend the few hours you have each night sitting back or laying from the comfort of bed.
@@mmstick that’s true and if you have a big family and don’t get much time with the tv you can just get out the portal
@@JacobGaming-zm6ec It would be cheaper and better to buy a monitor with that price
@@gamerstimes127certainly not cheaper at all if you wanted a monitor with hdmi 2.1 and vrr since the PS5 requires it. Portal is a much better solution. This thing exists for families that have gamers and non gamers competing for the tv
Might as well just get a G Cloud
Bit more expensive but can do hell of a lot more than this thing lol
It bothers me when talking about something like the PS Portal or cloud gaming everyone seem to focus only on input latency and image quality, nobody seem to bring up the fact it eats up your internet cap.
You know, not everyone has the luxury to have unlimited or lightning fast internet, most people outside of the United States use capped internet with varried download speeds, also unlike TH-cam and Netflix where the video is pre-recorded and is highly compressed streaming games require a constant refresh in high quality.
If you are using a portal its not using your internet connection to transfer data it's your inside wifi no data is wasted for steaming a game from your console. Streaming a game from a server outside of your home costs data. If you are somehow using data why streaming from a console in your home you have been hacked and someone is routing your data through them then back to you to monitor what you are doing.
"most people outside of the United States use capped internet" you need to travel more bro. US has worse internet compared to most countries.
The PS Portal streams from a PS5 using WIFI and not Internet, but SONY will probably enable PS Premium/ Cloud Streaming later. They even recently acquired iSIZE a company specialized in video and data compresion probably to address data volume
So does streaming TV shows and Movies and nobody brings up that when talking about netflix. This is no different. If your internet can't handle it, don't get it.,
@@PsychologyOK Yes it does get brought up. Data usage is always huge issue when it come to any kind of streaming. Game streaming uses way more data though than netflix/youtube.
What kills me about the Portal is that Sony aimed for the lowest bar possible with this device and called it a day.
It a lazy niche product. Definitely worst than PSTV, PSP GO, and Vita
It's great that Sony is giving us options on how we play. And not everyone always has access to their main tv.
I can use it while im at work so it was worth to me lol. But to each thier own ya know.
Main TV 😂it’s 2023 every child has a tv inside their room and adults have their own gaming room. More excuses to buy garbage 🗑️ 😂
@@jaydeebow6431 cope hard.
@@bearclaus2676 how exactly would one need to cope😀🤣nobody in there right mind would buy or even need that thing.
@@jaydeebow6431
"every child has a tv in their bedroom".
"Every adult has a game room".
BS
that moment when you can see the input lag simply by watching a video 😬😬😬😬
While this is an interesting device, it seems rather worthless to me. But I always enjoy you taking stuff apart!
That’s your opinion, although premature, but it was your opinion.
What part of "to me" did you not understand? If you enjoy it, good for you.@@ToxMod
@@ToxMod Most people agree that PS Portal is a E-Waste tier consumer product. It's reparability is 0 and achieves nothing you can't do with a Long 10m HDMI cable and a cheap $100 monitor
@@ToxMod Premature of what?! We all have plenty of specs\information and use case scenarios to make any informed judgment and opinion. You might not like it but anyone is entitle of it's own.
This device was released in mid November. It's a useless product for $215 with tax.
The fact that it doesn’t have a web browser to access hotel WiFi is a major flaw, how are you supposed to take this portability if you can’t access most free WiFi, and no I’m not going to hot spot it for an hour
It’s not major
I don’t mind using my hotspot
But again that’s me and my opinion
@@michaelmyersplays4992even "unlimited" phone data plans throttle after 50GB downloaded. Which will be reached fast if you are streaming your ps5
@@michaelmyersplays4992Sounds like you don’t travel much or you’d know that cell service isn’t perfect is every city and can depend on your network provider too.
They'll probably patch something in to address this eventually.
@@Afr0Punk I doubt it. Its Sony we are talking about. They release items then get no support after the fact.
I believe that the SG4150P Is actually a downclocked SM4250AA aka snapdragon 460 (Nearly Identical to the 662 In every way).
I wouldn't be surprised if QUALCOMM gave Sony a custom model number if they made a slight change or just binned version of the 460.
I got one. I absolutely love the thing. I had 1 disconnect during the roughly 15 hrs. I’ve had it connected to the console for. And it reconnected in about 5 seconds. No issues on Wi-Fi with frame rate or blurry noisy graphics. Even with 3 other family member streaming TH-cam I have had no hiccups yet over Wi-Fi. The ps5 IS NOT hard wired into my Starlink router.
Glad to know 👍
Well you didn't tell the whole story, like how fast your internet is. I'm still on copper wire, the upload speed is really mediocre (30mbps), if I have multiple people streaming videos at the same time I may have very blurry video on the PSP.
You lucky mine keeps on disconnecting
I want one for remote play using an iPhone hotspot. How does it handle that? Won’t be playing any multiplayer games, just want one for when it’s slow at work
@ricksanchez7250 why?
I disagree on wireless charging. Feels entirely unnecessary. Also the charge port location doesn’t bother me whatsoever
I like wireless charging and would like to see more devices incorporate it.
People are just bitter, I love my portal.
@@ToxMod1080p 60fps on the screen looks amazing. As an accessory for the PS5 I think it's perfect for gamer dads
100% agree
On third Dual Sense controller in 3 years also starting to suffer same stick drift issues. Original SKU and new. The ultimate stress test with Portal will be time, and I don’t think it will fair any better.
Yall be chewing on your sticks or something
I have 2 original DS4’s and 5 Dualsenses n none of them have drift
Yall interesting
@@XVNRXThe DS4 that came with my launch PS4 got stick drift and the DS that came with my launch PS5 also developed stick drift. Had to get a new one to finish FF XVI because the game has like a zero percent dead zone. I never had any stick drift on any other console. Even my launch joy-cons are still fine. It’s been only DS that came with the console for me, so I’d also be cautious about the Portal if there is no easy way to repair it.
@@XVNRXme too! Two controllers and no problems
@@XVNRX have you considered the fact that you have 5 controllers means likely you cycle through them so each one gets less action. Less play will decrease the chances of any wear and tear, accidents, etc. Most players have 1 or 2 controllers at a time which just increases the rate of handling. There’s so many factors besides that too. Casual vs 6+ hour a day players. Clumsiness is an issue on my end. I’ve got the habit of letting my controller fall off my arm chair . Afraid it’ll land the wrong way someday. 😅
@@BULL3T2B1NARY nah
I literally only use one lmao
But now I got the new red one ,
3 of them are dusty as hell
I added an antennas to mine, and it fixed a lot of the problems. I don’t know what PlayStation was thinking, having not very much signal on this thing and now I can walk between a wall of refrigerator and everything else and it does not get cut off anymore. I do not lose any more Internet signal or anything, it works so much better now I am happy I fix the problem myself
I’m adding this part this is supposed to be a dedicated remote play device. It should work better than any other remote play devices or any remote play on your phone or any other devices Sony literally said it’s a dedicated device and it’s going to be working better on remote than other devices which is all untrue. It works way worse that’s just the sad fact they need to majorly fix this problem.
How
Shouldn’t have to do that, there’s handhelds that can play 35 years worth of games that have flawless Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and touchscreen out of the box for half the price. Sony should do better, no doubt within a year they announce a refresh with slight upgrades.
@@Codename_aether yeah it’s a huge disappointment for a dedicated device and Sony lately is just a huge letdown
@@XRKGX especially when the psp and vita slap, they have the potential to really step into the market and they fumbled it, especially making it a ps5 companion. Most people don’t even have a ps5 still.
@XRKGX it's not a let down. If u buy it and use it for its intended purpose its a great product
Here he is, John the instigator.
This is one of those things that will be remembered like the PS3 3D TV where people will say "oh yeah that was kinda stupid"
This channel is the hard-working man that delivers all the news and reviews 👌😘😁🔥 Thank you for the hard work over the years
LMAO He just rambles on for 15-20 mins a video, most of the time he doesn't even have any visual stimuli. It's just him standing there. This man is a foot.
Where is sony's lie in this video?
30 second unskippable adverts in the middle of videos! I hate the way TH-cam is going.
You should bypass the compressor on the hyper drive while you were in there.
.."and make it Lame!." LoL
I get that it would limit its portability - one of its major selling points - but I don't get why Sony didn't offer the ability to plug the portal into the PS5 and use it like a monitor/screen directly rather than streamed. Would make it more appealing to people with poorer wi-fi connections. Just sell it with a 2-3m long cable.
This would of sold me on it. I have a 300Mbps connection and remote play still hiccups for me. This device would make me mad I think just like my tablet using remote play.
@@wolfy40oz🤔 interesting. How you like iPad remote play with dual sene controller?
@@edgaryzen4925 when it works it's fine. But I get alot of poor connection notifications. I was hoping the portal would of connected different. Maybe more like how the Wii U. That thing worked great as long as you were 20 feet from the console.
This just shows that the Wii U had it right lol
Not really. Wii U was built around second screen features. The remote play thing was only presented as a bonus.
@@fattiger6957 what he's saying is that the Wii U was a good idea, but perhaps not executed properly.
@@asdfdc1946that’s why the Switch exists.
@@asdfdc1946 The Wii U seemed to be an attempt to adapt the DS style of gameplay to a home console. But that idea was flawed from the start because the DS screens were attached to each other so they would always be in view for the player. I don't think anyone plays their home console with their controller in view all the time.
Even developers didn't seem to know what to do with the Wii U since most games just used the gamepad for menus and maps. It didn't exactly justify the gamepad.
@@OtavioFesoares Not really. Like I said in my comment, the main gimmick of the Wii U was second screen features. The Switch follows more of something like the Sega Nomad or the Gameboy player or the PSP with video out cables.
Few questions:
1) Does the ps5 have to be on all the time?
2) Can i play outside of my house with wifi?
3) Can I play off a personal hotspot?
Yes ,yes and finally yes
I wish i could play Portal on the Portal
You can play Bridge Constructor Portal, is that good enough?
the PS Portal as a portal to play Portal next to a porthole in a port-a-potty at a party? .. I'll stop.
Maybe one day Sony will get their PS3 backwards compatibility in a better state and you can play the Orange Box for PS3 on their newest console, and play Portal.
I *absolutely can not* believe that scalpers are *actually* making profit on these right now. Who on earth could possibly be desperate enough to get what is essentially a Wii U tablet for the PS5, especially considering your phone can literally do the same thing right now. Here's hoping the scalpers get stuck with hundreds of these paperweights soon.
Lol they aren't making money don't worry. Scalpers buy up almost everything big from name brands to try to flip it. This is going to lose a lot of scalpers a lot of money.
Yesterday I played the Portal most of the day. Late in the evening we had a WiFi outage but my portal continued to play and never disconnected. I even switched games just to see what would happen and it stayed connected the whole time. I don’t know how this happened or worked but it did.
If anyone knows how this worked or has an idea, please let me know.
Maybe ur wifi signal is still up but the internet is down. So as long as ur ps5 and portal in the same local home network, it should still work.
Because WiFi and Internet are 2 separate things.
You have a router that has a wifi connection. The router recieves "the internet" and sends it thru it's wifi signal. If there is no Internet you can still access your wifi network no problem.
It would have been different if you were playing over the internet but you were playing over your network.
Why is everyone so bitter about a device? I like mine because I’m a new dad and I can game where my child is sleeping, or in bed at the end of the night. Everything isn’t for everyone and that’s okay. No need for the tears and tantrums. Do I wish it had more capabilities, absolutely! But I was using an iPad and my single controller and pairing it every time. Now I have one singular dedicated device to charge. My controller stays downstairs with my PS5 and I’m all good.
Ps portal is awesome!
I used to stream games from 1 room away!
It’s so convenient! I don’t need to move out of the kitchen away from the refrigerator anymore!
The controller being textured and white will make it a hand grime magnet, just like the regular dual sense. Expect to have to clean it a lot, no matter how clean your hands look.
Yeah, that’s just good practice anyway for hygiene. It’s disgusting whenever I see a game pad that’s full of grease, grime, what have you, on the internet. It’s like, how can you let that happen to you equipment? Just like cleaning a gun each time you use it at the range.
My controller is still perfectly white. Wash your hands and wipe it down with a microfiber cloth every month or two. Also can use a tiny bit of distilled water if you need it.
people who write these comments freak me out, ive never seen a dirty controller like these people describe, ive never cleaned my controller in 2 years it looks brand new, and im not a light user. i think if youre getting your controllers dirty you need to re-evaulate your hygene
@@LeonZaneFigueirayou must not have kids.
Weird? Not had to clean mine at all.
Everyone's best use case for this device seems to be when someone else is taking up the TV. But has anyone brought up the fact that you could buy an entire TV for the price of this thing?
For me, its about wanting to be able to be out keeping an eye on the kids or just out with the family while having the option to game. I get way more use out of my Switch than i do my ps5 because i can play out in the living room while being with everyone. Playing on a console requires me to be in a separate room. With a handheld i can be engaged with the fam and play.
When analog sticks drifting happens. It's a nightmare to fit it.
No it’s not.
Citation required
RIP Jacob R's first portable...it was dedicated to science.
Or I could stream to the phone, tablet, and PC that I already own.
Na. They inferior device is _”quality”_ 😉
Cam someone explain what is meant by ‘the portal doesnt use internet’ .. why isi that many ppl have lag but others dont? Wat does it boil down to??
I bought one of these because I have real problems playing on a TV screen with my eyesight being the way it is and so far it's been great for me, it's made my games much much accessible. I'm getting sick of people saying 'It's a waste of time, bro' and 'Just use your phone and a Backbone, bro' and 'Just get a Steam Deck, bro' and other such comments, usually with 'bro' in them 🙄 If you don't want one, fine..just don't get one and ignore it. Not everything has to be made to cater to you, and sorry it's upset you so much that you feel the need to rage in every comment section about it to seem 'cool'. But do you also hate other controllers that people with disabilities use that are of no use to you, but amazingly helpful to them? And that's not to mention all the other people who find it useful if they have kids or family using the TV a lot and don't want to just 'get another TV, bro' either. I get that people are despatste for another 'proper' Sony handheld but this was never, ever promised as one if you actually followed the news about it. But there's still plenty of us who find stuff like this handy to have.
I'd like to think that the people who make those comments aren't referring to people in your use-case scenario. It's just that the device seems a little unnecessary when I can already do the same thing on my phone or tablet that I already have.
I have a counter argument without using "bro" in it. While certainly there is a percentage of people that might find it useful, busy families, people such as yourself etc. The discourse of people that have positive views of this product is overestimating the market for this, acting as if it is going to have the same success as a handheld console, the ps5 will have 50 million consoles in the market by early next year, this device will mainly sell in US and Canada, so reduce that amount by a lot. Now take less than 5% of that amount. I will really be surprised if it manages to sell 2 million worldwide due to how niche it is.
It's great that it has a market but It's important that we do not pretend it has the same appeal as a handheld.
THANK YOU THIS GUY GETS IT I love the portal can’t sit at a tv all day with a baby but can jump in during naps right on the couch with the portal
You could always use a tablet and your controller directly working off the PS5.
But bro! Why not just get your eyes fixed bro! Surely that’s cheaper and easier and less painful than this bro! Seriously bro! Brody bro brosephstein bro!
Here's what they didn't tell you: they weren't going to do literally anything to stop scalpers from depleting stock before the holidays. I don't care because I have a Steam Deck and can just be patient, but couldn't they more than absolutely nothing to make sure people can get one?
Wireless charging really isn't as big as some people like to think. Not surprised it doesn't have wireless charging.
I haven't seen a tablet with wireless charging, so why would he mention it here?
That was such a dumb thing to say. Wireless charging just means you have to set it down and leave it alone to charge. No gaming console has wireless charging and if they did it's just to charge morons more
Because its fairly standard for playstation controllers @@dustojnikhummer
Wireless charging makes no sense on a device like this... Very random thing to say by him.
The Wii U had contacts on the bottom to charge without wires, this is essentially the same thing so why is it strange to mention it?@@DeffecX
I'll stick with my backbone for my cell phone. And remote play that way.
The portal has way too many haters. As a dad who really only has time to play at night in bed, or while my girls are busy watching TV or playing around the house it meets all my needs. I look forward to knocking out my backlog.
Exactly
Can’t wait for my battery to get swollen and crack the screen in a couple of years
I don't think you'd see a bluetooth chip on there even if it was supported, it's likely embedded in the SoC, the smoking gun would be a 2.4 ghz antenna printed on the PCB
Also, what happens if you connect it to a PC? the SG4150P has a good wealth of known vulnerabilities, hopefully it will be jailbroken soon!
The DualSense Controller chip supports BT already doesn't it? That's how it connects to the PS5? So this technically should have it, just software locked
@@ru2225 yep, but that's in a different role (looking at motherboard pics though it looks like the antenna is connected to the SIE branded microcontroller)
If it's a standard Snapdragon 662 SoC then it should have a BT controller as part of the package, but it is software locked, possibly on such a low system level (hard coded to the bootloader) that it cannot be soft modded to enable it back.
@@elimalinsky7069 even if it's not locked, it still needs an antenna on the pcb connected to the radio on the SoC. If the antenna is not there there's nothing you can do.
Isn't essentially just making the PS5 a really fancy Wii U with a Wifi gamepad?
Love it. Works great on the 5G hotspot network through my phone. I go out of town for my company and taking my PS5 with me was a hassle. Now I don't have to. ❤
But I have to leave my 5 on though, right? 😢
@@TajographistYes. If the PS5 crashes and turns off, you won't be able to use the PlayStation Portal until the PS5 is powered back on
Can you use it across networks, like if you go to a friend's, can you stream off your ps5 at home?
You can switch to any wifi or 5g signal
If I had a PS5 and this portal, I would like to put it to the ultimate stress test. I live in an apartment and I have nephews come over using wifi, so would be interesting to see how it will play with my wifi setup.
Uhh.. Sounds like you're testing your network more than the portal.
If your network can't handle that traffic then split the routing to a separate unit and get a better wifi beaming device like unifier or something 😂
Just use remote play on your phone it's literally the same thing
How much Mbps do you have? Feels like your bandwidth might be the biggest factor here
@@VagrantValmarit’s not the same thing. Backbone is corny and not as dope.
@@2TrainWakefield I mean the latency, etc. Is the same.
And you can also use the dualsense with your android depending on your setup
What they don’t tell you is that the Backbone is much better
Debatable. It's made by Sony so the connection might be slightly better and more compatible. Plus a larger screen and you can use your phone while playing
As someone who plays games away from my PS5 a lot like on work trips or travel or on break this is literally perfect for me I use my phone for remote play all of the time and the screen is just too small so the ability to have haptic feedback and the triggers while having a higher screen quality is exactly what I'm looking for and the $200 price range seems about right too
People will pay £200+ for a pro controller, but will shit on this as too expensive. I've played my PS5 more in the past few days as normally I would only play once the kids go to bed.
@@MURPHYL28 honestly. We have one TV in the house and have to share so I'm loving being on the couch playing while the wife is watching TV! It's perfect so far!
@@Skekvar yep, people need to understand it's just a controller that offers another way to access your PS5 games. What do you think of the screen?
Screen is awesome. But the real test for me is to play today in the day time rather than at night to see how the glare comes in to play
@@MURPHYL28 it's not an OLED but honestly it's a really good screen. Everything is a good size to read like subtitle wise it's better than using a phone. Plus it's 1080 so having the higher resolution really helps. My only complaint would be I wish it had a higher refresh rate but for 200 bucks it's really good!
I’m curious if my old Homespot Bluetooth adapter would work through the USB-C port. I don’t think it would fit in the PS Portals location though.
Nope. Bluetooth does not work, you have to pay 150-200$ to buy their dedicated Bluetooth headsets along with a 500$ console to get it to work.
@@2023PerfectDark Homespot IS the Bluetooth.
I’m telling you getting rid of interference is a key thing. If you run it straight Wi-Fi, no hardwire my experience was terrible first day then I went into router settings and changed my 5 GHz network channels.and since then it’s been streaming great now ! I think my 5gh network was getting a lot of interference from neighbors WiFi possibly being on the same channel as me and I also changed display settings on ps5 to 1080p and turned off 120hz mode
Selling out and then scalpers actually being able to sell it at triple the price is insane! Sony sheep were more on this than I imagined.
Sell?? 💀💀💀 those aren’t selling
A few thoughts on this:
1. I wish you could watch video on it. I understand pirecy concerns but I just want the convenience of watching an R rated movie without my son seeing it on the big screen.
2. It's great that it's 1080P but most people have 1080P -4K TVs now with a MUCH bigger screen. Unless someone is stuck with a 720P tv there is not much use to a 2nd screen. And besides if someone is able to get $200.00 odds are they are going buy a low cost 1080P TV first.
3. It's ok if you have 2 PS5s but most of us have only one. That means If someone is gaming on the big TV you can't use the portal since it mirrors what they see on TV. So if you wanna fire up the portal for fun it's not gonna go well if someone is playing on the big screen.
4. Should make it compatible with PS4 too. This is a "budget" device (budget compared to the PS5 pricetag) so it makes sense to market to those who still have only a PS4. This makes it inclusive to those on a budget as well.
Doesn't interest me, but might get one if it goes on clearance. I've heard it runs on Android so it shouldn't be too hard for hackers and homebrewers to crack it open.
Despite the general negativity, there does seem to be a market for this device. I've seem comments from people who bought it and have a use for it and enjoy it. I think the people constantly ragging on it should just accept it isn't for them and move on instead of complaining about it. You don't like it, fine. Go find something you do like and talk about that. Why waste your time talking about something you don't like?
Atlus sponsoring you is a match made in heaven , I guess im buying Persona 5 Tactica now !
Here’s a work around for the whole headset thing. If you still want to use your Bluetooth headsets you can. Why’ll using the portal you can still connect your headsets to the PS5 mute the portals audio and you’ll still get the audio from the PS5 boom problem solved. Only downside is you still have to be in range of the PS5 with the headset but it’s a workaround for now.
This! This is the workaround. I have a wireless headset that connects to a dongle on my ps5 and I can hear the audio super far from the other side of my house which isn’t even how far I need it
@@benjimancha5515 bro you can just plug it in
I would totally throw 500 down for a full scale PS handheld that plays your PS Library anywhere
Literally made for the dad/mom/room mate gamers that never have access to the one TV in the house and its all good until the internet goes out either intentially or not.
tbh it doesnt need a power brick, use your ps5 and if you happen to be in a niche situation where you actually manage to find good wifi or cellular outdoors it would either already be charged and if somehow its not charged use your phone charger
You know what the position of the charging port of the Portal Reminds me of...
The Dreamcast controller.
what
@@joshe272 so... the Dreamcast was the last game console they made and the controller had a unique design for it.
Usually the wire or plug-in would be in the front however the DC Controller had 2 slots that took precedence mainly for the VMU integration.
So in order to connect the controller to the system, the wire came facing downward in the same direction as the Sony Portal.
It would’ve been much better if they implemented a proprietary wifi solution similar to airdrop instead of remote play, to cut down latency and improve image quality - current remote play just aint it
I think the USB port is perfect! You can play pretty well while charging. No other spot could make this possible 🙂
the top?
What I don't get is why someone would get this PlayStation pad when you can get a Switch Lite for the same price that doesn't require an internet connection and you can connect any headphone to. Or just use your phone with a compatible Bluetooth controller.
Prob bc PS5 games don't work on Switch. 😂
When it comes to anti-consumer, Sony takes the cake, beating out companies such as Apple and themselves of all companies. This is almost, if not, on the level of the issue the PlayStation Vita had with the proprietary memory cards
While I think the lack of Bluetooth is clearly something Sony should be criticized for, I’d be lying if I said it affected me at all. Bluetooth audio devices are fine for music but syncing up video and audio I’m not a fan. Bluetooth latency sucks. I’d rather wire in some earbuds 10 times out if 10
More anti consumer than removing the headphone jack 😂
@@ssjmonstaryou said it man!
does it scratch at a level 6 with deeper grooves at a level 7
I tried Astros Playroom with the portal and all the haptic feedback (rumble/adaptive triggers, etc) seemed quite weak compared to playing it with a regular dual sense controller.
I agree with you on that. The control handle motors make a funky sound as they rumble when you play.
Have you thought
They’re 2 different size controllers…
@@XVNRX I compared both the portal to my ps5 controller, I feel the build quality of the portal lacks a bit. It doesn’t feel too notch like a ps5 controller while on your hand.
@@XVNRX Yes but still, I didn't think it would be that much weaker though. It's very noticeable when comparing the 2.
@@XVNRXthat shouldn't matter
RESOGUN looks amazing on the Portal, feels like it was specially made for it
If the Portal had two missing features then I would totally get it (i) standard Bluetooth support (ii) play PS+ streaming games direct to the Portal
The ability to play it on WiFi even when away from home is actually something which appeals a lot to me! If I were travelling for work every week still then I could take this with me and play when off work. The wait to play Persona 5 on my weekends was a nightmare!
No cloud streaming is an absolute crime. I would upgrade my PS+ Extra to the top-tier one (Premier?) if I could use it on my Portal.
It should have had its own little internal storage to download a few games and stream games off PS Now. The fact it lacks those makes it not a buy for me, when I can just use my current tablet and a Dualshock 5 to do the exact same thing. I guess the only perk is its a single device to charge and not multiple? The battery life alone on the device would have to be pretty massive to sell me on 'needing' it to have the perfect PS5 experience.
If an exploit allows for installation of android apps then this quickly becomes and incredible Xbox and PC streaming device as well as PS5.
No sd card and no internal storage to install anything
I may be one of the rare people this is for. I bought a PS Vita specifically to do remote play in the early PS4 generation. I put over a thousand hours into remote play and supposedly the streaming has gotten a lot better since then. Fingers crossed🤞
Did you play any Vita games?
Meh. You can buy a tablet and something like a backbone for the same or less and have more versatility
@@phantomreaver85it doesn't need an internet connection.
It needs a wifi network. They are not the same thing
A lot of comments about what should have been included... Wireless charging, Oled 4k screen.... It's 200 quid for a reason guys. It's just an accessory. My main and only issue with this is the connection. In the UK the Internet is just trash so I'm struggling with that.
They made a WI U pad. Welcome to 2012, Sony.
The audio is not proprietary. It’s just their version of WiFi Direct.
What they didn’t tell us? That we wouldn’t be able to play in most major hotels because the internet usually requires terms acceptance and an internet browser.
Also, god damn Atlas. Nice off of Persona 5 already. They spent the last year going and shutting down all the SMT Imagine private servers and those weren’t charging anything.
Not surprised there's no power brick. They don't even include those on $1k+ phones, nowadays.
@elcactuar3354 Exactly my point - if these companies that make tech aren't including the bricks with the expensive items that really should have them, then it's not a surprise that they don't include them with accessories like the Portal.
Cool video, great teardown! I bought the Portal, but I can’t play it until Christmas. Oh well!
Same here. Can’t wait till Xmas!
Why wait to christmas?
I’m a stickler for the rules, even on myself. Years ago, my then girlfriend(now wife) went half on the soon to be released Xbox 360. She reminded me that since it was a Christmas present and I had to wait. I did! As for my Portal, it wouldn’t help me as I am on the road and can play my PS5 or Xbox Series X any time I wish. I am also in a hotel room and the internet really sucks.
Pros-
Great Connectivity on home WiFi. Can play CoD on MP even.
Best feeling handheld-ish device. Think it’s cause it feels like an actual controller.
Really good screen quality. This was a surprise to me.
Ability to play PS5 games in another room where my system isn’t.
Cons-
Should be a fully capable handheld system, I.e a competitor to Steam Deck, Switch, etc.
Needs cloud streaming.
The real thing Sony didn't tell people is the fact that just like the Duelsense controller, the analog sticks are _not_ hall effect so yeah, can't wait for this $200 portable device that is hard to disassemble, to just be permanently unusable in 1-3 years-assuming it doesn't kick the can within months just like the Switch lite.
And if you want to just use the dpad and/or are into Fighting Games, its the same model from the duelsense as well which is just tragic.
You mean the ps5 controller with a screen is based off a ps5 controller? Who the hell would've thought? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bitterness is oozing out your pores son.
No official controller uses hall effect. It's not expected so it's not a feature you have to say is omitted.
Sony cover stick drift issues, so it's a none issue if it does happen
@@MURPHYL28yet it was drama when it was Nintendo
All cell phones have the charger port at the bottom, the switch has the charging port at the bottom. Wireless charging isn't something that can happen for a $200 device.
what really bugs me is why does not have a proprietary wireless connection like the wii u that came out 10 years ago just up from 480p to 720p. The wii u was really impressive
Portal is FANTASTIC. It streams better than my phone or tablet somehow. The screen is bigger and you can play this at your friends. you DONT need to only be on your local wifi. I connected through my 5g hotspot and it worked. Then I went to my friends across town and connected to his wifi...was able to play from his place with basically zero lag. It was amazing actually and now he is thinking of getting one.
When i tried it on phone i couldnd play if its not the same wifi connection.
U say that this thing works anywhere you are in the world?
@@fseiba6718Yes, It's essentially just Remote Play. The connection searches locally first but if it recognizes that you're not on home wifi, then it broadens the search from whatever public hotspot (/or your phone hotspot) back to your PS5. However it will take a little longer depending on how good your connection is.
@@fseiba6718it's true
Streaming games will always be based on the connection you have. That remote play, cloud streaming of any type. I've had my port for a few days and use it at home an work. Yeah, some of us leave our house for work. From my limited use it works well for what I want to do. For the games that I want to play it works great that's both from my phone's hotspot and work internet. I know that the device my not be for everyone, but it doesn't have to. That's the point not everything is made for everyone in mind.
Really couldn't type "portal"?
So it can connect to the hotspot from your phone?
@@lupos10x yes. Any wifi connection
I'm still holding out hope that Sony will allow cloud streaming directly to this device. I pre-ordered it and have it, but haven't taken it out of the box yet.
that defeats the purpose 😂
@@chriswheeler5808how so?
Just open it
PS Portal 2.0 will no doubt iron out and improve on any issues.
Is that really a good thing? That we need the next version already?
@@drazzimusic it happens with every thing released. Something added, taken away, made smaller, made with oled, etc etc. Same will happen with the Portal. They are most likely working on it as we speak.
Portal Pro Slim is rumored to play Netflix
@@latinokid33 What a waste of a system
The sad thing about this is if you get stick drift that can't be fixed with Isopropyl Alcohol, all you have is a $200 paperweight.