@@SudrianTales In fact, in one of the episodes of the Gundam 0079 series, Char Aznable has an intimidating conversation with Cameron, Mirai's ex-fiance, the helmswoman of the White base, and one of the administrators of Side 6, in which Cameron proceeds to finalize Zanzibar's resupply procedures, Char's ship. Cameron reminds Char to keep fighting between Zeon and the E.F.S.F. outside the limits of Side 6 and Char responds, in a harassing manner, that as soon as Zeon defeats the Federation, the neutrality of Side 6 will be useless, since there will only be Zeon and all other colonies, neutral or not, will be absorbed by the principality. Cameron made an expression as if something in his stomach was twisting.
@celiovicenteribeirofilho9740 Reminds me of star wars, the planet Alderaans destruction was the point where most of the galaxy turned against the empire because Alderaans leadership was doing shady stuff but it's people were good imperial and the planet was a beacon of light in the galaxy. The empires murder of some of the pinnacle of Imperial citizenry confirmed to the galaxy that no one was safe and they may as well die fighting
One thing I always wanted to see in this timeline was a revenge crusade for operation british by Side 2 and Earth survivors, ending with the destruction of Side 3
The Covenant from Halo would be disgusted by this too. And I'm not saying that because of most elites having the honor system of the samurai but worse, I'm saying that due to the fact that this single attacked killed billions. Hell, some commanders, like Thel and Rtas, would probably switch sides to the humans with their fleets.
If Zeon had done something like this, I can't possibly imagine the Earth Federation not out for Zeon's total destruction. Not defeat, *destruction.* You don't get away with killing half of Humanity like this, and such a strike would make it personal for virtually everyone left on Earth. They would be out for blood, and genocide against Zeonites would not be out of the question after their colony-drop on Earth causes what is by all intends and purposes a genocide.
I imagine it would be something similar to how the Allies treated the Nazi, and Imperial Japanese governments. Japan and Germany still exist as nations but the governments responsible for WWII were dismantled, and replaced.
EF lost so much in the Battle of Loum. Even during the final battle, EF pretty much just throwing meat fodders at Zeon just to force them to surrender.
It wasn't a world ending disaster. The colony drop was a decapitation strike, the only viable method to take out the fortress the federation had built underground. It was a valid military target, being hit with proportional force. The damage caused by the federation fleet is what caused the colony to break up and go off target, and causing the widespread devastation. After the federation withdrew from the peace talks, hoping to win a war of attrition versus zeon, it was zeon who agreed to outlaw weapons of mass destruction (something that wasn't a thing before this, the treaty of Antarctica). Zeon had full space superiority at this point, and could have dropped another colony unopposed, but chose not to, for humanitarian reasons. The federation was quick to tear up the treaty soon after the war, once there was more potential rebels to crush. At least, so I have read.
@@owlsayssouthDude, have you been sniffing glue? It was attempt at full planetary genocide, had the colony stayed in one piece humans would have been exterminated like dinosaurs Military target my ass
@@molybdaen11 "let them do it, we'll stop it and be heroes!" Probably went along those lines since it's gundam and the military is always that corrupt.
I wish they would included the scene with Ramba Rai refuse to take part in operation British. My respect for him for his decision show that he showed more honor than the rest of his fellow Spacenoids.
"Sir, should we maybe not kill billions of the Spacenoids we're claiming to be fighting for?" "Nonsense." It's absolutely disturbing how a lot of people actually like and support Zeon.
@@ennui9745 dude they're a fictional faction, just because people like the villains doesn't mean they support evil regimes in real life. Why are Gundam fans always like this?
To be honest, they Won if not by the speech of General Revil in the Antarctic Treaty Zeon already won the war, because originally that treaty was a surrender
Not really, they only did as well as they did because the EF was so devastated by their opening attacks, otherwise they simply did not have the numbers
First time pretty much anyone saw the actual event, tbh. It's been referenced time and again in the franchise, but only during Origin did we finally, actually see it happen.
Zeon: we seek independence and have no aggression with the Federation if they leave us alone Zeon, not long after: [depopulates Side 2 with G40 gas while not telling their operatives, basically screwing them over cause that's what non aggressors do] Zeon, immediately afterwards: [Drops a colony on earth and wipes out half the population, because that's what non aggressors do]
What do you expect from a literal nazi analogy, where the military is run by a literal Hitler analogy and the flag is literally the nazi german navy's flag with the swastika replaced with the zeon emblem?
This is one of Anime's worst War Crimes. Roughly half of the world's population was killed. The Zeon had only done the opposite by making matters worst for them.
Even if the attack occurred as intended and the Iffish colony reached the Jaburo base, the effects would still be the same, if not more aggravated, as the countries surrounding the Amozonia basin (Brazil, Guinea, Suriname and others) would be severely affected. and the region's entire biosphere would be destroyed with unimaginable fires and the destruction of river networks and the region's climate.
I think about this sometimes. Could you imagine the level hopelessness of seeing that thing tumble towards earth and not being able to stop it. Zeon basically became a rouge terrorist state.
Just for reference: the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs was around 10-15 km wide and *completely solid* The Space Colonies in UC Gundam are 6.4 km wide and 36 km long *but hollow*
Yeah the in universe measurement is that it left a 500 km crater in Australia. That would be by far the largest crater on Earth. I believe they claimed it had an effective payload of 60,000 Megatons which would definitely not leave that big of a whole, but it's at least the bare minimum equivalent.
While the interior is hollow (to a degree), the main structure of the colonies would likely be made from denser materials. And there is the question of velocity and impact angles to consider as well.
The colony spiralled in, which was probably the result of the Federation pouring its entire arsenal into the thing, likely in an attempt to raise its perigee above zero. Because of this, the shockwaves of it skimming the atmosphere and it breaking up in the atmosphere probably made the devastation even worse. However it likely avoided a total nuclear winter, -which was Zeon's aim (an utterly deranged solution to war - destroy your enemy's home and half their population to force them to live with you).- Mixed this up with Axis. Operation British was meant to destroy the Federation's super-hardened command bunker, killing untold millions in the process...
I think that most of the human population of around 12 billion had been moved to space colonies by this time, so Earth's population here was only over 2 billion. Nevertheless, Zeon killed more than a billion people with this colony drop alone, and their savage and brutal invasions and destruction of the other space colonies (you know, the people they were CLAIMING to be fighting for) killed billions more. The total death toll in the One Year War was around 6 billion, indeed half of the human population. It's utterly hilarious yet disturbing that people unironically support the Principality of Zeon.
Don’t think that colony had nearly the mass required to make that kind of impact on something the size of Earth, but I’m willing to let it slide for narrative reasons because dropping one of your largest colony bases on your enemy’s homeworld is one of the most metal villain moves of all time.
a quick bit of research suggests these colonies were large enough for millions if not billions of people to live on them, the colonies of the earth sphere had about 10 billion space colony residents at the outbreak of the one year war.
@teslashark a soace station, even this large would be incredibly less dense then an astroid. It might have broken into more then 3 pieces, and those pieces even if they were the large 3 seen here, would be more collapsible then any astroid. Like conpare deopping a 2x4 contruxted house vs a 20ft boulder. Its not the same. It would do alot but it probably wouldnt be the scale shown here. But its a anime so who really cares. Maybe all the metal was super dense idk
@@skie6282 This might be a bit of a long reply, so I'm going to try and put a TL,DR at the start. While yes, the station being hollow does make it appear questionable that it could create this much destruction, I think that it might not even need to hit the ground with most of it's structure to cause such a death toll. I'd also like to preface this by stating I'm not a gundam fan, and just stumbled into this because it looked cool. So, one thing I'd like to point out is that even if it's hollow, this station was built to be very robust. After all, if it's the type of station I think it is, it generates artificial gravity by "rolling" along it's long axis. It would need to be durable to withstand that constant outward force, and the fact that it took several space naval bombardments on it's way down with only surface damage proves that even more. My theory is that the breakup was actually intentional to maximize damage. But coming back from that tangent, I think that if the station crumpled as it flew through the atmosphere, you'd still have large chunks that would make it down in relatively large chunks that would be moving at a significant portion of the speed of sound. So while the damage done by these chunks could/would be closer to the impactor that made meteor crater than the dino killer, you'd still be shot-gunning the surface of the earth with these chunks. They'd probably have enough dispersion to hit some cities and cause damage to infrastructure, and would leave craters everywhere that couldn't be ignored. Another thing to consider is that these things don't even have to hit the ground to start causing damage. Events like the Chelyabinsk meteor have shown that objects exploding in atmosphere can cause a lot of ground damage. This meteor managed to wound almost 1500 people to some degree and damage over 7000 buildings (mostly by shattering windows) and even partially collapse the roof of a factory building by just exploding while about 40 kilometers away and 23.3 kilometers up in the atmosphere (about 46km in strait line distance). Not bad for a 20 meter wide object, even if it was going at 18.6km/sec. Before anyone complains about the mass, this thing was estimated to mass 7700 tons, so it had a lot of kinetic energy. And while chunks of this station may not be going as fast as that, they are defiantly larger and more massive. The explosive breakup of these pieces could do widespread damage and spread the non-exploded fragments even further. But even exploding chunks wouldn't be the worst thing that could happen. The sheer kinetic energy of this thing would probably heat the atmosphere up by a significant degree, which would mess with weather patters all over the globe. All this doesn't account for one other thing: Have you ever thought about what sort of toxic stuff was in the station when it came down? There's probably fissiles, toxic chemicals, and propellants that would rain down along with the debris, poising large swaths of the earth's surface. Besides killing people, this could kill crops and wildlife, not to mentions push medical services beyond their limit. Logistics would break down, and food and clean water would be very hard to come by. You could also have small particles suspended in the upper atmosphere, which could wreak havoc on the earth's climate in any number of ways. To put it simply; even if this thing doesn't have the mass to do a lot of damage via impact (which it defiantly does), it still has plenty of ability to cause widespread destruction even before it touches the ground.
As someone that saw the Original Series and read some material from the internet reguarding it, the Colony Drop originally just rendered Australia mostly uninhabitable. But the rest of the half of Earth's population was killed in the ensuing Nuke Exchange between the Principality of Zeon and the Earth Federation. Which led to the Antartic Treaty that ended up BANING the use of nukes in the war, as well as any more frigging Colony Droping. (Not that that would stop them for long.)
It is important to note that Origin as well as most supplementary material is not technically cannon. The colony drop would have absolutely been enough to kill all life. Gundam has multiple different takes throughout the extended UC universe that often conflict with one another. Stardust Memory has one of the most full breakdowns of the aftermath of the colony drop and its math is so far from possible that its clear even the 'mostly' cannon content is wrong on the science of it all.
Considering the population of Earth would be more than twice it is right now at this level of development being on it's way to a Type I spacefaring civilization this may be one of the most heinous acts committed by any foe in any fiction short of the destruction of Alderaan. The principality of Zeon definitely got what they deserved in the end.
Earth was actually depopulating though at this point wasn't it? That was essentially the issue is that the Federation was sending excess population into space and then not properly governing them. Not to take away from the war crime, just think UC is neat.
A Warhammer 40k hive city can house 10 to 100 billion people and there can be multiple of them per planet, so the loss of life is insane when a foe takes out a planet, which happens pretty regularly. 40K probably has the highest human body counts in fiction because there are something like 100 quadrillion humans in the galaxy while still being massively outnumbered.
You gotta read more then. Star Wars has several weapons of mass destruction, one of which can turn a star into a super nova, taking the whole star system with it. Then you got the Halo array of Halo, which wipes out every life form in the galaxy to prevent the flood from feeding of of it.
I'm sitting in a hot bath, and I felt chills down to the bone throughout my body at the very thought of billions of people wiped out from just one cruel choice. We could not comprehend that much death at once.
Zeon's atrocities were meant to be a parallel to 1930s and 1940s Japanese atrocities. Tomino has a habit of contradicting himself, so take it with a pinch of salt. Also there was probably a lot of Cold War era fear over nuclear war mixed in. But, in Japanese, Zeon is pronounced "Ji-on", which sounds suspiciously like a mashup of "Japan" and "Nihon".
@@TroySpace From a strategic standpoint colony drop made perfect sense. Unless you level the playing field, Earth would steamroll colonies with sheer industrial might. If Zeon won, its crimes would be swept under the rug just like the Allies' bombings were. 'We had to do it to win the war' or something.
Hmm, I just realized, but I found it funny that Sydney still had any sense of ruined structures when the maps shows how decimated the place is, you'd think it was sunk as soon as the water subsided.
I think they fucked up. They said it wiped out South Australia, but the imagery clearly shows the segment directly impacting Sydney - which is not even in South Australia.
@@roidroid They said it completely destroyed "Southern Australia" i.e. the entire southern half of the continent. And probably caused a fair bit of havoc in the northern half too. As a Sydneysider seeing this scene for the first time, it's pretty intense. I'm imagining hearing the rumble and roar as the remains of the colony shreds the atmosphere, then looking up and seeing it and not being able to do anything other than thinking "well, we're all fucked".
It would be a practical necessity to totally eradicate Zeon after they did this to make sure nothing like it ever happened again. I don't mean kill all the people, but you'd have to totally destroy their state, their culture, their nation, hunt down and execute every Zeon loyalist, just salt everything, so absolutely no one ever gets it in their heads that such a heinous act might be a good idea, might work to get the result you want. And in fact it's because the Federation almost completely fails to do this, basically lets Zeon off with a slap on the wrist instead, that colony drops reoccur in the UC-verse to the point that Earth almost becomes uninhabitable.
@@dark7element, this is pure, unrelenting pragmatism, actually. The thing is that we've nearly signed the death warrants of nations for _LESS_ historically (look up OPERATION STARVATION and the idea to permanently destroy Germany via sending it to pre-industrial times)... and this would make those look like chump change. To pull something like this? Oh boy, you'll have to go full GENOCIDE Man mode (i.e., go into an area and _outright exterminate (with complete overkill)_ anyone with the idea) to prevent any repeats.
Are you encouraging children to join the Titans then? Because it seems like it sir. Meanwhile I, an Autobot believe that freedom is the right to all sentient beings, especially different ones.
@@berandom2000 after seeing the damage that the colony drop enacted, it’s understandable why people joined and supported the titans. Zeon would also drop another colony on the earth post OYW, this caused the people of earth to become radicalized and gain a very fiery hatred for spacenoids. This is why the titans were very ruthless against spacenoids and did give a dam about the atrocities they committed towards them. All they wanted was revenge and they were going to get this revenge by any means necessary no matter how many spacenoids(innocent or zeon alined) they were willing to kill. In the end they became the earthnoid version of zeon. It’s sad when you realize innocent spacenoids we’re tired of Zeon because zeon target colonies that stood against them or didn’t want to take part in their conflict. Most of the colonies were probably happy to hear about the titan creation hoping they would finally put a end to zeon or any zeon remnants, but then the titans would target their colonies just for assuming them to be zeon remnants with no evidence. But after all of this one thing is certain: *ALL OF THIS IS ZEONS FAULT*
Imagine what that would've felt like. I'm sure it would have made the entire planet tremble. Not to mention the aftermath. That would be a disaster, to say the least
@@Ultrabozo I'm not one to let a little thing like reality get in the way of my proclamations... the Universe and its possibilities are infinite! ... someone weighed down by gravity wouldn't understand...
The only part I have a problem with is the fleet not destroying or diverting it. They just fired one salvo and threw up their hands and said "oh, well"? An otherwise excellent piece or art and pathos, but takes me right out when you have a space fleet with energy weapons just firing once instead of laying on the hurt until the whole thing becomes vapor.
Yeah, this was strange. Then again, seeing how the colony looked shortly before entering the atmosphere, they probably fired more than one salvo. I still think, realistically, more could have been done, but at least they likely did not just give up and let it happen.
Probably they did a strafing run, busy maneuvering out of the colony's way while still shooting at it the hardest they could. The colony was diverted and then broken into three, probably due to being pummeled by the fleet.
It's more likely that the space colony is too big that their attacks end up only poking holes in it. They likely would need specialized equipment to break the station or bombs to vaporize it. Gundam Seed Destiny actually has similar situation. Except that the falling space colony isn't a complete colony but just a huge chunk of destroyed space colony. Even then they still need to plant drills at certain points to break it into more smaller chunks.
Dozle was too trusting of Gihren. Gihren probably convinced him that the entire Side's population would fight tooth and nail. A gas attack was probably somewhat justifiable if you use the same logic the US had for the nukes. Obviously Gihren was lying though, and the reality slap from our favourite not a zaku pilot wasn't enough to convince Dozle. The plan probably would have worked though but I suspect the Tianem fleet unintentionally knocked the colony off course and it caused way more damage than intended. Not that Gihren minded.
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As someone that saw the Original Series and read some material from the internet reguarding it, the Colony Drop originally just rendered Australia mostly uninhabitable. But the rest of the half of Earth's population was killed in the ensuing Nuke Exchange between the Principality of Zeon and the Earth Federation. Which led to the Antartic Treaty that ended up BANING the use of nukes in the war, as well as any more frigging Colony Droping. (Not that that would stop them for long.) The Origin OVA that tries to tell the story form Chr's perspective made it worse on a vain attempt t increasing realism, the writers not realizing that Tomonobnd the rest of Sunrise at the time did their homework as best they could for 1979 standards.
I think one of the funniest parts of this, if there can be anything funny, is the fact that Zeon considered this a grand failure since it missed its target. All that work and they didn't even accomplish what they aimed for (destruction of EF HQ)
And this is exactly why I’m okay with Amuro and company killing hundreds of Zeon soldiers and the Zabi family. You don’t colony drop and kill billions of people and think it’s okay. If this was real life I’m supporting EF 100% take no prisoners wipe out every single Zeon from existence after that stunt.
At that point, the red flag would be raised and there would be only one end to the conflict: the complete and utter annihilation of one faction or the other.
How could an entire earth colony fleet not have any nukes? Or earth have sent any? Surely that would have blown up a relatively small asteroid like ship.
and after this, every single reincarnation of zeon be like "if we do exactly what we did last time, surely it'll make dem earthnoid/earthnoid sympathizer give up eventually!"
The Gundam universe really underpredicts/underplays it as well. In reality this would probably mean the death of almost all life on Earth, especially humans.
@@BANKSl I honestly believe that Zeon got off lightly after the war. Zeon was actually allowed to remain independent after they surrendered, the Earth Federation only required that they change their government. I think a lot of people from Earth, not to mention the other space colonies that Zeon invaded and/or destroyed, would realistically have wanted Zeon completely destroyed for this.
I wonder what the best way to stop the colony would be, I imagine it couldve been broken up a day or two before impact by boarding it and setting off loads of demo charges and the smaller pieces wouldve burned up more in the atmosphere and caused less damage.
@@molybdaen11 Unfortunately, by the time the Tiannen fleet realized they were using a colony as a kinetic missile, it was too late to stop it. Not to mention that Zeon kept an escort of ships accompanying the colony for a good part of the way. If Tiannen moved the second fleet to attempt an intercept, he would not be able to avoid the same mobile suits that destroyed Revill's fleet. He wouldn't have avoided the fall and still lost what little defense there was for Earth.
I'm curious how much of something like that would actually survive re-entry, I don't think it would have been as quite as devastating as shown. Considering it is mostly hollow and space stations are generally built with light materials, I don't think it would have had the same energy potential as an asteroid of the same or even half the size of those pieces. Although this would have been built entirely in space so lifting requirements wouldn't have been as strict. Were there people on it?
it was entirely build in space, its about 6,4km diameter and 36km long, it is hollow but still very thick walls, the "front part" is a whole space port which is also denser in mass. people who lived in the colony got killed by putting gas in the oxygen system after capturing the station, afterwards they put thrusters on the station, the stations themself dont have thrusters like this, only for adjustments
As someone that saw the Original Series and read some material from the internet reguarding it, the Colony Drop originally just rendered Australia mostly uninhabitable. But the rest of the half of Earth's population was killed in the ensuing Nuke Exchange between the Principality of Zeon and the Earth Federation. Which led to the Antartic Treaty that ended up BANING the use of nukes in the war, as well as any more frigging Colony Droping. (Not that that would stop them for long.) This is Gundam the Origin which is a Char narrated Alternate Timeline. And while it was constructed completely in space, and like the previous coment mentioned would be made of some dense material in some parts The Origin's depiction of events makes it worse than the original source probably in a vin attempt at further realism not understanding that the original Gundam tried its best to do it's homework back in 1979.
Surviving assault by an entire fleet of waships equipped with this universe's weapons is absurd. Large portions surviving descent through Earth's atmosphere is even more absurd. No one is going to build something like that to be able to survive either event. The cost just to build one would already be staggering. Armoring it against both super weapons and a ram-pressure atmospheric descent would make the staggering cost just mentioned look cheap. Even if the wealth and resources were available to build it, those on Earth would realize its possible use and they would scramble to prepare weaponry that could do the job if destroying it became necessary. Even attempting to use such a structure as a weapon, much less succeeding, would trigger an all out war response. Weapons of mass destruction would come right out of storage and be used with little or no mercy.
Can some one tell me the size comparison for this “colony”? I watched some science videos before and it looks like a “oniel” cylinder but what exactly is this objects size???
@@dododostenfiftyseven4096 It absolutely had to be. I couldn't find any information about weight of Gundam's colonies, but I did go down a bit of a rabbit hole and I feel it would be a shame to keep my research to myself. Please be advised though, I am a dumb dumb and am probably wrong. I'll put a tl;dr for you at the bottom. If we take the crater dimensions they give in 0083 as fact, then the piece of colony that hit Sydney made a crater 500km wide. That's insane, the largest ever impact crater left by an asteroid is under 200 km for reference. If we take a couple estimates I found on Wiki and WaPo it seems to be consistent that the the size of the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs and left the second largest crater ever recorded was somewhere in the ballpark of 1/3 to 1/2 the size of the colony. I found an estimate that claims that same asteroid, the Chicxulub Asteroid, was traveling at 20km/s, but we'll hold on to that for a second. The colony was located at Lagrange Point 4, which is directly in the Moon's orbit. Knowing that means we know how far it traveled to Earth and this video gives us a timeline of 5-6 days for the colony to hit Earth. With my noodle I can at least guess that that means the colony was traveling at around 1km/s. I just googled the formula for momentum and luckily for me it's a simple multiplication, p=mv. So, if you assume that's all you need to know to calculate crater size (which I sincerely doubt it is considering diameter isn't in that equation) then we're almost there. We would take that 20km/s, convert into m/s at 20,000m/s, then multiply it by the mass I found for Chicxulub at 2,000,000,000,000,000 kgs, and we have a number of 40,000,000,000,000,000,000 kg·m/s for our momentum of the asteroid that struck Earth and killed the dinosaurs and left only a ~180km crater. We would then multiply our momentum (p) by 2.777777777 to equalize out the sizes and now we can solve for m in our colony problem. So, 40,000,000,000,000,000,000 kg·m/s (2.777777777) = m·1000m/s is our problem and it gives us 111,111,110,000,000,000,000 kg. That means the colony would be ~3 times that number. Ummm... that can't be correct, like at all, but I'm honestly pretty confident that the crater size they gave is just outright nonsense as a third of a colony traveling at that speed would never create a crater THAT big. I already kinda knew that, but it's fun to fuck around with numbers sometimes. For reference they claimed the colony drop had an equivalent TNT tonnage of 60,000, but the wiki page says the Chicxulub asteroid created an equivalent of 72,000,000 tonnes of TNT. I found some estimates online that have people placing the mass of an O'Niel Cylinder at much closer to a few billion kilograms and I would put much more faith in those estimates than any of this nonsense I just put together. tl;dr The numbers Gundam gives for this stuff is just obviously a bit wrong and dated. I would imagine people taking stabs at what an O'Niel Cylinder actually weighed would be much more accurate than actually using Gundam's metrics, especially through the lens of my nonexistent math skills. It probably weighed a few billion kilograms.
You are correct, the makers of this, the original Gundam timeline, used Gerard O'Neill's O'Neill Cylinders as the space colonies in this setting. Some other comments have discussed how much one colony might weigh, I am not an expert. Yes it is hollow, unlike an asteroid, but even so I imagine it must weigh millions of tons.
Zeon was lucky they were in an Anami Otherwise earth would have started Nuking their colony cylinders. In the last episode Zion representatives would be screaming "You can't destroy our colony cylinders! There are women and children on board!"
I'm pretty sure the Earth Federation DID nuke Zeon's colonies back, or at least some of them. The main Zeon space colonies were safe because they were so far away on the other side of the sun, and Zeon had space superiorty through most of the war. When they lost their main defensive bulwark between their population centers and the earth fleet, they surrendered immediately.
Australia is the expendable continent; hell, look at Gunbuster- the Australian continental chunk was dug up and processed to form the outer shell of a black hole bomb, which was created by compressing the whole of Jupiter into a tiny singularity. Yeah, Gunbuster was ludicrous sometimes.
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I appreciate the fact that it takes 5 days for the colony to even reach Earth.
Gundam has always had solid science behind it, for everything except the Gundams.
@@TroySpace I mean, even then, they do their best.
@@mechanomics2649 unless it is turn A or unicorn or 00......
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@@TroySpace the amount of damage the colony made on Earth is debatable though.
“They might call it the cost of war, but in my book, it’s too high of a price to pay.”
-Eipher Synapse, Gundam 0083
How to lose war support:
How to drive recruitment in the enemy
How to ensure complete and utter destruction of your lands:
How to ensure every neutral colony suddenly decides the Federstion needs all the help they can
@@SudrianTales In fact, in one of the episodes of the Gundam 0079 series, Char Aznable has an intimidating conversation with Cameron, Mirai's ex-fiance, the helmswoman of the White base, and one of the administrators of Side 6, in which Cameron proceeds to finalize Zanzibar's resupply procedures, Char's ship.
Cameron reminds Char to keep fighting between Zeon and the E.F.S.F. outside the limits of Side 6 and Char responds, in a harassing manner, that as soon as Zeon defeats the Federation, the neutrality of Side 6 will be useless, since there will only be Zeon and all other colonies, neutral or not, will be absorbed by the principality.
Cameron made an expression as if something in his stomach was twisting.
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Reminds me of star wars, the planet Alderaans destruction was the point where most of the galaxy turned against the empire because Alderaans leadership was doing shady stuff but it's people were good imperial and the planet was a beacon of light in the galaxy.
The empires murder of some of the pinnacle of Imperial citizenry confirmed to the galaxy that no one was safe and they may as well die fighting
One thing I always wanted to see in this timeline was a revenge crusade for operation british by Side 2 and Earth survivors, ending with the destruction of Side 3
I remember reading a Gundam x Transformers fanfic where a Decepticon ambassador literally tells the Zeonites to chill out with the war crimes
You know you are a true monster when the alien criminal military faction, even see what you did is really horrible.
The Covenant from Halo would be disgusted by this too. And I'm not saying that because of most elites having the honor system of the samurai but worse, I'm saying that due to the fact that this single attacked killed billions. Hell, some commanders, like Thel and Rtas, would probably switch sides to the humans with their fleets.
Can I have the link pls I want to read it
@@sonofjack6286 The theocracy told by their leaders to genocide us would be "Are we the baddies?" by it?
wat
Unless ya mean pre-HCW...
@@sonofjack6286 Tell that to all the colonies Thel has glassed before he became Arbiter.
If Zeon had done something like this, I can't possibly imagine the Earth Federation not out for Zeon's total destruction. Not defeat, *destruction.* You don't get away with killing half of Humanity like this, and such a strike would make it personal for virtually everyone left on Earth. They would be out for blood, and genocide against Zeonites would not be out of the question after their colony-drop on Earth causes what is by all intends and purposes a genocide.
I imagine it would be something similar to how the Allies treated the Nazi, and Imperial Japanese governments. Japan and Germany still exist as nations but the governments responsible for WWII were dismantled, and replaced.
And don't forget, they gassed BILLIONS of colonists in space too. Like, those people were not even human.
EF lost so much in the Battle of Loum.
Even during the final battle, EF pretty much just throwing meat fodders at Zeon just to force them to surrender.
@@superspicysoysauce8231 And that excuse Zeon how...?
@@DerpEye Yeah. They were basically space Nazis.
Damn, the soul crushing feeling of being tasked with stopping a world ending disaster like that and failing
See also: 0083 and ZZ Gundam.
It wasn't a world ending disaster. The colony drop was a decapitation strike, the only viable method to take out the fortress the federation had built underground. It was a valid military target, being hit with proportional force.
The damage caused by the federation fleet is what caused the colony to break up and go off target, and causing the widespread devastation.
After the federation withdrew from the peace talks, hoping to win a war of attrition versus zeon, it was zeon who agreed to outlaw weapons of mass destruction (something that wasn't a thing before this, the treaty of Antarctica). Zeon had full space superiority at this point, and could have dropped another colony unopposed, but chose not to, for humanitarian reasons. The federation was quick to tear up the treaty soon after the war, once there was more potential rebels to crush.
At least, so I have read.
They had all this ships and many days time, still did not manage to at least change the course with they engines.
@@owlsayssouthDude, have you been sniffing glue?
It was attempt at full planetary genocide, had the colony stayed in one piece humans would have been exterminated like dinosaurs
Military target my ass
@@molybdaen11 "let them do it, we'll stop it and be heroes!" Probably went along those lines since it's gundam and the military is always that corrupt.
I wish they would included the scene with Ramba Rai refuse to take part in operation British. My respect for him for his decision show that he showed more honor than the rest of his fellow Spacenoids.
Ramba was the GOAT.
Gouf pilots tend more honorable than those zeon dogs that preach freedom over a grave of thousands, if not millions, dead bodies.
Same. He straight-up told Dozle Zabi to his face: "This is the work of the devil!"
That act is what got him demoted.
Demoted but never thrown out cause deep down dozle knew value of having such a man around. ❤
@@ROFLobster4884 this is no zaku boy no zaku!
That scene with every countrys flag at half mast was powerfull
And as the bay section brightened the skies over Australia, it was as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in dismay, “Ar nar…”
Lol
2:46 woah, the flags are all at half-mast. That's a really cool detail.
and earth's population too!
Zeon would of probably won the war if they weren’t too busy committing war crimes.
"Sir, should we maybe not kill billions of the Spacenoids we're claiming to be fighting for?"
"Nonsense."
It's absolutely disturbing how a lot of people actually like and support Zeon.
@@ennui9745 dude they're a fictional faction, just because people like the villains doesn't mean they support evil regimes in real life. Why are Gundam fans always like this?
To be honest, they Won if not by the speech of General Revil in the Antarctic Treaty Zeon already won the war, because originally that treaty was a surrender
Not really, they only did as well as they did because the EF was so devastated by their opening attacks, otherwise they simply did not have the numbers
I've heard this event referenced many times, but this is my first time seeing it onscreen.
Absolutely horrific.
First time pretty much anyone saw the actual event, tbh. It's been referenced time and again in the franchise, but only during Origin did we finally, actually see it happen.
Zeon: we seek independence and have no aggression with the Federation if they leave us alone
Zeon, not long after: [depopulates Side 2 with G40 gas while not telling their operatives, basically screwing them over cause that's what non aggressors do]
Zeon, immediately afterwards: [Drops a colony on earth and wipes out half the population, because that's what non aggressors do]
Yeah I mean they also surprise attacked their fleets to start the war didn't they? The Zabis were trash people, especially the eldest two.
If you're the only non-aggressor left, you write who was right.
What do you expect from a literal nazi analogy, where the military is run by a literal Hitler analogy and the flag is literally the nazi german navy's flag with the swastika replaced with the zeon emblem?
Looks like Russia took inspiration from Zeon.
@@JTMaster You mean Ukraine
2:28 “…children thought they were Roosters. It was all around a bad time.”
This is one of Anime's worst War Crimes. Roughly half of the world's population was killed. The Zeon had only done the opposite by making matters worst for them.
Giving the world some freedom
-Zeon
Even if the attack occurred as intended and the Iffish colony reached the Jaburo base, the effects would still be the same, if not more aggravated, as the countries surrounding the Amozonia basin (Brazil, Guinea, Suriname and others) would be severely affected. and the region's entire biosphere would be destroyed with unimaginable fires and the destruction of river networks and the region's climate.
I think about this sometimes. Could you imagine the level hopelessness of seeing that thing tumble towards earth and not being able to stop it. Zeon basically became a rouge terrorist state.
Just for reference: the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs was around 10-15 km wide and *completely solid*
The Space Colonies in UC Gundam are 6.4 km wide and 36 km long *but hollow*
Yeah the in universe measurement is that it left a 500 km crater in Australia. That would be by far the largest crater on Earth. I believe they claimed it had an effective payload of 60,000 Megatons which would definitely not leave that big of a whole, but it's at least the bare minimum equivalent.
While the interior is hollow (to a degree), the main structure of the colonies would likely be made from denser materials. And there is the question of velocity and impact angles to consider as well.
Each colony has its own multiple power reactors.
The space colony was accelerated by nuclear thermal thrusters, so it likely had a higher impact velocity than the asteroid that killed dinosaurs.
The colony spiralled in, which was probably the result of the Federation pouring its entire arsenal into the thing, likely in an attempt to raise its perigee above zero. Because of this, the shockwaves of it skimming the atmosphere and it breaking up in the atmosphere probably made the devastation even worse. However it likely avoided a total nuclear winter, -which was Zeon's aim (an utterly deranged solution to war - destroy your enemy's home and half their population to force them to live with you).-
Mixed this up with Axis. Operation British was meant to destroy the Federation's super-hardened command bunker, killing untold millions in the process...
I think that most of the human population of around 12 billion had been moved to space colonies by this time, so Earth's population here was only over 2 billion. Nevertheless, Zeon killed more than a billion people with this colony drop alone, and their savage and brutal invasions and destruction of the other space colonies (you know, the people they were CLAIMING to be fighting for) killed billions more. The total death toll in the One Year War was around 6 billion, indeed half of the human population.
It's utterly hilarious yet disturbing that people unironically support the Principality of Zeon.
Ejemplos de la vida real Primera y segunda guerra mundial así de idiotas somos los humanos.
@@CarlosChavez-37si... 😢
Think of how Russian and Chinese citizens support the war in Ukraine and china alone makes 1/6 of earth pop.
Cuz the Earth Federation sucks THAT much.
@@devastater97 You believe the Earth Federation sucks more than space fascists that routinely commit mass murder? Why? I'd like to hear your reasons.
They took “Colonization of Australia” a tad bit too literally .
To take out the fountainhead of all life is self-destruction for Zeon too.
Don’t think that colony had nearly the mass required to make that kind of impact on something the size of Earth, but I’m willing to let it slide for narrative reasons because dropping one of your largest colony bases on your enemy’s homeworld is one of the most metal villain moves of all time.
Bill Bryson has done calculations about asteroids, they'll do
a quick bit of research suggests these colonies were large enough for millions if not billions of people to live on them, the colonies of the earth sphere had about 10 billion space colony residents at the outbreak of the one year war.
@@rhino2960 They were very large, but hollow.
@teslashark a soace station, even this large would be incredibly less dense then an astroid. It might have broken into more then 3 pieces, and those pieces even if they were the large 3 seen here, would be more collapsible then any astroid. Like conpare deopping a 2x4 contruxted house vs a 20ft boulder. Its not the same. It would do alot but it probably wouldnt be the scale shown here. But its a anime so who really cares. Maybe all the metal was super dense idk
@@skie6282 This might be a bit of a long reply, so I'm going to try and put a TL,DR at the start. While yes, the station being hollow does make it appear questionable that it could create this much destruction, I think that it might not even need to hit the ground with most of it's structure to cause such a death toll.
I'd also like to preface this by stating I'm not a gundam fan, and just stumbled into this because it looked cool.
So, one thing I'd like to point out is that even if it's hollow, this station was built to be very robust. After all, if it's the type of station I think it is, it generates artificial gravity by "rolling" along it's long axis. It would need to be durable to withstand that constant outward force, and the fact that it took several space naval bombardments on it's way down with only surface damage proves that even more. My theory is that the breakup was actually intentional to maximize damage.
But coming back from that tangent, I think that if the station crumpled as it flew through the atmosphere, you'd still have large chunks that would make it down in relatively large chunks that would be moving at a significant portion of the speed of sound. So while the damage done by these chunks could/would be closer to the impactor that made meteor crater than the dino killer, you'd still be shot-gunning the surface of the earth with these chunks. They'd probably have enough dispersion to hit some cities and cause damage to infrastructure, and would leave craters everywhere that couldn't be ignored.
Another thing to consider is that these things don't even have to hit the ground to start causing damage. Events like the Chelyabinsk meteor have shown that objects exploding in atmosphere can cause a lot of ground damage. This meteor managed to wound almost 1500 people to some degree and damage over 7000 buildings (mostly by shattering windows) and even partially collapse the roof of a factory building by just exploding while about 40 kilometers away and 23.3 kilometers up in the atmosphere (about 46km in strait line distance). Not bad for a 20 meter wide object, even if it was going at 18.6km/sec.
Before anyone complains about the mass, this thing was estimated to mass 7700 tons, so it had a lot of kinetic energy. And while chunks of this station may not be going as fast as that, they are defiantly larger and more massive. The explosive breakup of these pieces could do widespread damage and spread the non-exploded fragments even further. But even exploding chunks wouldn't be the worst thing that could happen. The sheer kinetic energy of this thing would probably heat the atmosphere up by a significant degree, which would mess with weather patters all over the globe.
All this doesn't account for one other thing: Have you ever thought about what sort of toxic stuff was in the station when it came down? There's probably fissiles, toxic chemicals, and propellants that would rain down along with the debris, poising large swaths of the earth's surface. Besides killing people, this could kill crops and wildlife, not to mentions push medical services beyond their limit. Logistics would break down, and food and clean water would be very hard to come by. You could also have small particles suspended in the upper atmosphere, which could wreak havoc on the earth's climate in any number of ways.
To put it simply; even if this thing doesn't have the mass to do a lot of damage via impact (which it defiantly does), it still has plenty of ability to cause widespread destruction even before it touches the ground.
"Zeon did nothing wrong, stop believing in the Federarion's propaganda"
Meanwhile Zeon:
"The ideals of Zeon have never been actually applied."
SIEG ZEON!!!
I really wish they'd do a full remake of the original series along the lines of Gundam Origin.
As someone that saw the Original Series and read some material from the internet reguarding it, the Colony Drop originally just rendered Australia mostly uninhabitable. But the rest of the half of Earth's population was killed in the ensuing Nuke Exchange between the Principality of Zeon and the Earth Federation. Which led to the Antartic Treaty that ended up BANING the use of nukes in the war, as well as any more frigging Colony Droping. (Not that that would stop them for long.)
It is important to note that Origin as well as most supplementary material is not technically cannon. The colony drop would have absolutely been enough to kill all life. Gundam has multiple different takes throughout the extended UC universe that often conflict with one another. Stardust Memory has one of the most full breakdowns of the aftermath of the colony drop and its math is so far from possible that its clear even the 'mostly' cannon content is wrong on the science of it all.
Considering the population of Earth would be more than twice it is right now at this level of development being on it's way to a Type I spacefaring civilization this may be one of the most heinous acts committed by any foe in any fiction short of the destruction of Alderaan. The principality of Zeon definitely got what they deserved in the end.
Earth was actually depopulating though at this point wasn't it? That was essentially the issue is that the Federation was sending excess population into space and then not properly governing them. Not to take away from the war crime, just think UC is neat.
A Warhammer 40k hive city can house 10 to 100 billion people and there can be multiple of them per planet, so the loss of life is insane when a foe takes out a planet, which happens pretty regularly. 40K probably has the highest human body counts in fiction because there are something like 100 quadrillion humans in the galaxy while still being massively outnumbered.
Think Macross's "Rain of Death" was far worse. 70% of Earth's surface was glassed. Horrible times all around.
@@derpherp7432 Well 40k is all about the war and collateral damage is a blank cheque.
You gotta read more then.
Star Wars has several weapons of mass destruction, one of which can turn a star into a super nova, taking the whole star system with it.
Then you got the Halo array of Halo, which wipes out every life form in the galaxy to prevent the flood from feeding of of it.
At least Tianem managed to throw it off course just enough that it wouldn't hit Jaburo, which is a hollow achievement at best.
Not hollow, had it stayed in one piece it would have exterminated the whole planet
I'm sitting in a hot bath, and I felt chills down to the bone throughout my body at the very thought of billions of people wiped out from just one cruel choice. We could not comprehend that much death at once.
Yay, go zeon! Pretty girls, awesome mobile suits, and fighting for independence!
*sees colony drop*
Well screw you, Zeon!
Yeah while not necessarily as hateful or bigoted as the fascists they were based on they certainly were just about as evil.
Zeon was supposed to protect the space colonies, not gassing everyone in a colony and dropping it to cause mass extinction!
Zeon's atrocities were meant to be a parallel to 1930s and 1940s Japanese atrocities. Tomino has a habit of contradicting himself, so take it with a pinch of salt. Also there was probably a lot of Cold War era fear over nuclear war mixed in.
But, in Japanese, Zeon is pronounced "Ji-on", which sounds suspiciously like a mashup of "Japan" and "Nihon".
@@TroySpace From a strategic standpoint colony drop made perfect sense. Unless you level the playing field, Earth would steamroll colonies with sheer industrial might. If Zeon won, its crimes would be swept under the rug just like the Allies' bombings were. 'We had to do it to win the war' or something.
A colony drop is the price for Spacenoid independence, if this is what breaks you then you don't deserve freedom
Imagine being in Australia and thinking, "man it's a cloudy day" and than those clouds scoot out of the way. "Well shit" LMAO
The "LMAO" was unnecessary.
You probably hear an ominous divine rumbling first from atmosphere being heated
@@ZenStrive52 it would be faster than mach1, so no U wouldn't hear it coming
Now i know where Abaddon gets his Idea of dropping a blackstone fortress in cadia
This will likely negatively affect the salmon population.
positively
Hmm, I just realized, but I found it funny that Sydney still had any sense of ruined structures when the maps shows how decimated the place is, you'd think it was sunk as soon as the water subsided.
I think they fucked up. They said it wiped out South Australia, but the imagery clearly shows the segment directly impacting Sydney - which is not even in South Australia.
@@roidroid They said it completely destroyed "Southern Australia" i.e. the entire southern half of the continent.
And probably caused a fair bit of havoc in the northern half too. As a Sydneysider seeing this scene for the first time, it's pretty intense. I'm imagining hearing the rumble and roar as the remains of the colony shreds the atmosphere, then looking up and seeing it and not being able to do anything other than thinking "well, we're all fucked".
@@sixstringedthing it'd make more sense if they said it wiped out Eastern Australia
A piece hit southwestern Canada? Damn... There goes my province.
It would be a practical necessity to totally eradicate Zeon after they did this to make sure nothing like it ever happened again. I don't mean kill all the people, but you'd have to totally destroy their state, their culture, their nation, hunt down and execute every Zeon loyalist, just salt everything, so absolutely no one ever gets it in their heads that such a heinous act might be a good idea, might work to get the result you want. And in fact it's because the Federation almost completely fails to do this, basically lets Zeon off with a slap on the wrist instead, that colony drops reoccur in the UC-verse to the point that Earth almost becomes uninhabitable.
This could literally be a transcript of one of Bask Ohm's speeches
@@dark7element, this is pure, unrelenting pragmatism, actually. The thing is that we've nearly signed the death warrants of nations for _LESS_ historically (look up OPERATION STARVATION and the idea to permanently destroy Germany via sending it to pre-industrial times)... and this would make those look like chump change.
To pull something like this? Oh boy, you'll have to go full GENOCIDE Man mode (i.e., go into an area and _outright exterminate (with complete overkill)_ anyone with the idea) to prevent any repeats.
Titans literally exists for this reason.
Fr.@@dark7element
0:35 The Horror. 0:38 desperation. 2:26 Zeon's barbaric triumph.
No Mississippi Queen ?
I love the detail that all of the nation's flags are at half mast
Tfw I just started Gundam from G-witch and find this clip by accident.
Welcome to Gundam Proper, enjoy the Warcrimes!
And that, kids, is why the only good spacenoid is -Ramba Ral- a dead spacenoid.
So do your part, and make those spacenoids good!
Are you encouraging children to join the Titans then? Because it seems like it sir. Meanwhile I, an Autobot believe that freedom is the right to all sentient beings, especially different ones.
@@berandom2000 after seeing the damage that the colony drop enacted, it’s understandable why people joined and supported the titans. Zeon would also drop another colony on the earth post OYW, this caused the people of earth to become radicalized and gain a very fiery hatred for spacenoids. This is why the titans were very ruthless against spacenoids and did give a dam about the atrocities they committed towards them. All they wanted was revenge and they were going to get this revenge by any means necessary no matter how many spacenoids(innocent or zeon alined) they were willing to kill. In the end they became the earthnoid version of zeon.
It’s sad when you realize innocent spacenoids we’re tired of Zeon because zeon target colonies that stood against them or didn’t want to take part in their conflict. Most of the colonies were probably happy to hear about the titan creation hoping they would finally put a end to zeon or any zeon remnants, but then the titans would target their colonies just for assuming them to be zeon remnants with no evidence.
But after all of this one thing is certain:
*ALL OF THIS IS ZEONS FAULT*
@@magicalspooder8279 it sucks even more that Zeon wanted freedom for all spacenoids while literally killing them and dropping their homes on earth.
@@TimaeusEXE "Congratulations, you are being liberated! Now take deep breaths..."
The Titans now rise!
Imagine the guy standing where the colony landed... What should have been going through his head at the moment?
metal
You gave me the best video edit idea
The colony's leading edge, really
Imagine what that would've felt like. I'm sure it would have made the entire planet tremble. Not to mention the aftermath. That would be a disaster, to say the least
And after all that effort, they still missed.
They Almost succeeded if not Federation's attempts to stop them.
Zeon can never be forgiven for their crimes against humanity.
The Principality does not require your forgiveness... only your defeat.
@@MrCantStopTheRobot And ironically enough, your Principality was the one that got its ass kicked by the Federation.
@@Ultrabozo I'm not one to let a little thing like reality get in the way of my proclamations... the Universe and its possibilities are infinite! ... someone weighed down by gravity wouldn't understand...
@@MrCantStopTheRobot That's actually a good comeback. I'll take this L.
@@Ultrabozo excellent. Now, may I interest you in purchasing an exotic Mobile Armor...?
And then they built the Gundam X to stop future attacks 😅😂
...which is useless since in the After War's moment, the entire colonies were not existed anymore since all of it had been dropped to Earth.
Still can't stop it
They need something as strong as TBR to stop colony drop.
The only part I have a problem with is the fleet not destroying or diverting it. They just fired one salvo and threw up their hands and said "oh, well"?
An otherwise excellent piece or art and pathos, but takes me right out when you have a space fleet with energy weapons just firing once instead of laying on the hurt until the whole thing becomes vapor.
Yeah, this was strange. Then again, seeing how the colony looked shortly before entering the atmosphere, they probably fired more than one salvo.
I still think, realistically, more could have been done, but at least they likely did not just give up and let it happen.
It’s called a time skip, I doubt they only fired one volley my dude
Probably they did a strafing run, busy maneuvering out of the colony's way while still shooting at it the hardest they could. The colony was diverted and then broken into three, probably due to being pummeled by the fleet.
@@ZenStrive52 yeah I assumed that was the reason it split in three and missed Jaburo, makes sense to me
It's more likely that the space colony is too big that their attacks end up only poking holes in it.
They likely would need specialized equipment to break the station or bombs to vaporize it. Gundam Seed Destiny actually has similar situation. Except that the falling space colony isn't a complete colony but just a huge chunk of destroyed space colony.
Even then they still need to plant drills at certain points to break it into more smaller chunks.
If only heero yui had been there
0:37 You can literally HEAR the 'thud' as his shit hits the ground.
Dozle was too trusting of Gihren. Gihren probably convinced him that the entire Side's population would fight tooth and nail. A gas attack was probably somewhat justifiable if you use the same logic the US had for the nukes.
Obviously Gihren was lying though, and the reality slap from our favourite not a zaku pilot wasn't enough to convince Dozle.
The plan probably would have worked though but I suspect the Tianem fleet unintentionally knocked the colony off course and it caused way more damage than intended. Not that Gihren minded.
If Zeon Zum Deikun hadn't thought about spacenoid independence then this wouldn't of happened.
non of this would of happened if he wasnt assassinated
@@heymay724gundam origin retcon his methods from peace talk to straight up war at federation.
Never liked sydney anyway.
I hope this fixes the housing prices.
_everything_ drops to zero when you glass a planet, not just the housing market or unemployment rates...
What an awesome piece of art!
They wouldn't have to tell anyone who survived this to get in a robot, they'd have to fight them off from trying to steal them to get vengeance.
1:35 Sydney real estate Agents; "Fantastic development opportunity, green fields bargain investment. Do not miss. Only $100,000,000 for the cheapest land parcel!"
The corruption of the Zabi family and Zeon lead to the Death's of Many Many Lives
Also take note that Skylab fell the same year as this show debuted.
I'm absolutely sure this thing couldn't do so much damage, it's not an asteroid, it's mostly hollow
As someone that saw the Original Series and read some material from the internet reguarding it, the Colony Drop originally just rendered Australia mostly uninhabitable. But the rest of the half of Earth's population was killed in the ensuing Nuke Exchange between the Principality of Zeon and the Earth Federation. Which led to the Antartic Treaty that ended up BANING the use of nukes in the war, as well as any more frigging Colony Droping. (Not that that would stop them for long.) The Origin OVA that tries to tell the story form Chr's perspective made it worse on a vain attempt t increasing realism, the writers not realizing that Tomonobnd the rest of Sunrise at the time did their homework as best they could for 1979 standards.
Zeon clearly is the good guy
Yep
I think one of the funniest parts of this, if there can be anything funny, is the fact that Zeon considered this a grand failure since it missed its target. All that work and they didn't even accomplish what they aimed for (destruction of EF HQ)
> Sydney and Canada were hit
> everyone rejoices
the end
And this is exactly why I’m okay with Amuro and company killing hundreds of Zeon soldiers and the Zabi family. You don’t colony drop and kill billions of people and think it’s okay. If this was real life I’m supporting EF 100% take no prisoners wipe out every single Zeon from existence after that stunt.
And they didn't stop dropping a colony on earth. They also destroyed colonys with people inside.
I really hate how close they made the moon look to the Earth.
At that point, the red flag would be raised and there would be only one end to the conflict: the complete and utter annihilation of one faction or the other.
jesus and this is before the first gundam anime? no wonder the earth federation wanted to wipe them out.
How could an entire earth colony fleet not have any nukes? Or earth have sent any? Surely that would have blown up a relatively small asteroid like ship.
TOTAL ZEON DEATH
Marco Inarus would be proud.
Well living in Southwestern Canada, at least I would die quickly.
and after this, every single reincarnation of zeon be like "if we do exactly what we did last time, surely it'll make dem earthnoid/earthnoid sympathizer give up eventually!"
Unfortunately..it ends with them getting curbstomped.
Did I read that right? Canada got hit?!
That was easily mid teraton level detonations. How big WAS that thing? Looked like the size of a small nation.
Roughly 6km diameter and 36km in length
now imagine the events before the Turn A Gundam. in the legends the collapse of the Space and night turning to day that's how the dark war started.
0:52 It’s damaged, so it may been a day long barrage of lasers from the Federation fleet
Surprised the satellite stayed attached the entire time it was crashing down. Sure it was damaged but I sm just surprised it stayed attached at all.
I couldn't believe the fallout from that thing dropping...
The Gundam universe really underpredicts/underplays it as well. In reality this would probably mean the death of almost all life on Earth, especially humans.
@@BANKSl Civilization would probably entirely collapse around the world. Zeon wouldn't have much left to conquer at all.
@@matasa7463 Yeah exactly
@@BANKSl I honestly believe that Zeon got off lightly after the war. Zeon was actually allowed to remain independent after they surrendered, the Earth Federation only required that they change their government.
I think a lot of people from Earth, not to mention the other space colonies that Zeon invaded and/or destroyed, would realistically have wanted Zeon completely destroyed for this.
I wonder what the best way to stop the colony would be, I imagine it couldve been broken up a day or two before impact by boarding it and setting off loads of demo charges and the smaller pieces wouldve burned up more in the atmosphere and caused less damage.
Probably using all this ships to change the trajectory of the station to hit the eath in another angle to either burn down quicker or being repelled.
@@molybdaen11 Unfortunately, by the time the Tiannen fleet realized they were using a colony as a kinetic missile, it was too late to stop it. Not to mention that Zeon kept an escort of ships accompanying the colony for a good part of the way. If Tiannen moved the second fleet to attempt an intercept, he would not be able to avoid the same mobile suits that destroyed Revill's fleet. He wouldn't have avoided the fall and still lost what little defense there was for Earth.
@celiovicenteribeirofilho9740
Man, I feel sorry for the Federation commander now. There's lose lose, then there's your position
Oh, so that's why there's a battle over the Guiana Highlands in War Thunder
All those people gone. Reduced to atoms
With ships still in space, I'm pretty sure a nuclear counter would have been in order.
you gotta do what you gotta do
This really needs some Sawano Hiroyuki drop.
I don't understand TH-cam provides cc on English speaking video's but other languages they don't.
Where can I watch that movie? Title too?
I'm curious how much of something like that would actually survive re-entry, I don't think it would have been as quite as devastating as shown. Considering it is mostly hollow and space stations are generally built with light materials, I don't think it would have had the same energy potential as an asteroid of the same or even half the size of those pieces. Although this would have been built entirely in space so lifting requirements wouldn't have been as strict. Were there people on it?
it was entirely build in space, its about 6,4km diameter and 36km long, it is hollow but still very thick walls, the "front part" is a whole space port which is also denser in mass. people who lived in the colony got killed by putting gas in the oxygen system after capturing the station, afterwards they put thrusters on the station, the stations themself dont have thrusters like this, only for adjustments
As someone that saw the Original Series and read some material from the internet reguarding it, the Colony Drop originally just rendered Australia mostly uninhabitable. But the rest of the half of Earth's population was killed in the ensuing Nuke Exchange between the Principality of Zeon and the Earth Federation. Which led to the Antartic Treaty that ended up BANING the use of nukes in the war, as well as any more frigging Colony Droping. (Not that that would stop them for long.) This is Gundam the Origin which is a Char narrated Alternate Timeline. And while it was constructed completely in space, and like the previous coment mentioned would be made of some dense material in some parts The Origin's depiction of events makes it worse than the original source probably in a vin attempt at further realism not understanding that the original Gundam tried its best to do it's homework back in 1979.
I remember the colony drops in the original Gundam 0079.
Surviving assault by an entire fleet of waships equipped with this universe's weapons is absurd.
Large portions surviving descent through Earth's atmosphere is even more absurd.
No one is going to build something like that to be able to survive either event. The cost just to build one would already be staggering. Armoring it against both super weapons and a ram-pressure atmospheric descent would make the staggering cost just mentioned look cheap.
Even if the wealth and resources were available to build it, those on Earth would realize its possible use and they would scramble to prepare weaponry that could do the job if destroying it became necessary.
Even attempting to use such a structure as a weapon, much less succeeding, would trigger an all out war response. Weapons of mass destruction would come right out of storage and be used with little or no mercy.
Earth broke before the guard did
No way with the impact crater the way it is the colony actually hit Sydney
Can some one tell me the size comparison for this “colony”? I watched some science videos before and it looks like a “oniel” cylinder but what exactly is this objects size???
They were O'Niel Cylinders and they're 36 km long and a bit over 6 km in diameter
@@BANKSl thanks fam, the mass of this object must be insane
@@dododostenfiftyseven4096 It absolutely had to be. I couldn't find any information about weight of Gundam's colonies, but I did go down a bit of a rabbit hole and I feel it would be a shame to keep my research to myself. Please be advised though, I am a dumb dumb and am probably wrong. I'll put a tl;dr for you at the bottom.
If we take the crater dimensions they give in 0083 as fact, then the piece of colony that hit Sydney made a crater 500km wide. That's insane, the largest ever impact crater left by an asteroid is under 200 km for reference. If we take a couple estimates I found on Wiki and WaPo it seems to be consistent that the the size of the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs and left the second largest crater ever recorded was somewhere in the ballpark of 1/3 to 1/2 the size of the colony. I found an estimate that claims that same asteroid, the Chicxulub Asteroid, was traveling at 20km/s, but we'll hold on to that for a second. The colony was located at Lagrange Point 4, which is directly in the Moon's orbit. Knowing that means we know how far it traveled to Earth and this video gives us a timeline of 5-6 days for the colony to hit Earth. With my noodle I can at least guess that that means the colony was traveling at around 1km/s. I just googled the formula for momentum and luckily for me it's a simple multiplication, p=mv. So, if you assume that's all you need to know to calculate crater size (which I sincerely doubt it is considering diameter isn't in that equation) then we're almost there. We would take that 20km/s, convert into m/s at 20,000m/s, then multiply it by the mass I found for Chicxulub at 2,000,000,000,000,000 kgs, and we have a number of 40,000,000,000,000,000,000 kg·m/s for our momentum of the asteroid that struck Earth and killed the dinosaurs and left only a ~180km crater. We would then multiply our momentum (p) by 2.777777777 to equalize out the sizes and now we can solve for m in our colony problem. So, 40,000,000,000,000,000,000 kg·m/s (2.777777777) = m·1000m/s is our problem and it gives us 111,111,110,000,000,000,000 kg. That means the colony would be ~3 times that number.
Ummm... that can't be correct, like at all, but I'm honestly pretty confident that the crater size they gave is just outright nonsense as a third of a colony traveling at that speed would never create a crater THAT big. I already kinda knew that, but it's fun to fuck around with numbers sometimes. For reference they claimed the colony drop had an equivalent TNT tonnage of 60,000, but the wiki page says the Chicxulub asteroid created an equivalent of 72,000,000 tonnes of TNT. I found some estimates online that have people placing the mass of an O'Niel Cylinder at much closer to a few billion kilograms and I would put much more faith in those estimates than any of this nonsense I just put together.
tl;dr The numbers Gundam gives for this stuff is just obviously a bit wrong and dated. I would imagine people taking stabs at what an O'Niel Cylinder actually weighed would be much more accurate than actually using Gundam's metrics, especially through the lens of my nonexistent math skills. It probably weighed a few billion kilograms.
You are correct, the makers of this, the original Gundam timeline, used Gerard O'Neill's O'Neill Cylinders as the space colonies in this setting.
Some other comments have discussed how much one colony might weigh, I am not an expert. Yes it is hollow, unlike an asteroid, but even so I imagine it must weigh millions of tons.
Zeon was lucky they were in an Anami Otherwise earth would have started Nuking their colony cylinders.
In the last episode Zion representatives would be screaming "You can't destroy our colony cylinders! There are women and children on board!"
I'm pretty sure the Earth Federation DID nuke Zeon's colonies back, or at least some of them. The main Zeon space colonies were safe because they were so far away on the other side of the sun, and Zeon had space superiorty through most of the war. When they lost their main defensive bulwark between their population centers and the earth fleet, they surrendered immediately.
Marco Inaros took inspiration.
I would just like to say that Zeon went on to do more colony drops and an asteroid. Safe to say that everyone would be better off without Zeon.
Really surprised that it killed that many I was trying to do quick math and came with a casualty figure of 2 billion in today's population
That metal right here
Hey hey hey, that’s meant to hit somewhere in Murica, what have the animators got against Sydney huh!!!
Australia is the expendable continent; hell, look at Gunbuster- the Australian continental chunk was dug up and processed to form the outer shell of a black hole bomb, which was created by compressing the whole of Jupiter into a tiny singularity.
Yeah, Gunbuster was ludicrous sometimes.
OK WAIT. HOW. How did they hit Canada AND Australia XD. No way.
Come to Brazil!
Space colony Side 2:
1:40 I wonder would it be that slow, let me take a selfie
The Federation had 5 whole days to figure something out.
the gundams
It wasn't just one
The cruise ship in Australia at 1:45 landed in Canada at 2:10
Lol nope. That's Australia still