INTPs in 20 Words
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INTPs walk around with a sense of not being fully understood, despite their best efforts. Videos like this are why we're overrepresented in this space...it feels so good to be seen. 😊
I've have often speculated about why certain types seem far more interested in typology. This theory is quite plausible. Any type who is more likely to be misunderstood or disconnected from people in that way would value these explanations much more. I think it's also more common for certain types to think about people in this archetypical way too ~ Nathan
I've definitely had this experience myself 😅. Ironically, typology can lead to a further disconnect when you want to ramble about cognitive functions, but the other party knows nothing about MBTI. Feels nice to know it's not just me
Exactly! A way of logic-ifying endlessly perplexing people as well as ourselves
@Kent Hartig yeah, I've neglected to bring up mbti around people I know mainly due to this very reason (granted I only know like 2 people). Almost like the people most into typology are hardest to meet in the real world especially if you're an introvert
@@lovewho Typing is THE way for INTPs to develop that unbearable noisy baby Fe of ours. Try to connect with others' emotions and you'll probably end frustrated; try to understand, categorize, predict and emulate them (and their outcomes) and you'll have a chance of success. It's a long walkaround, but with time and practice it can become somehow real. If it looks like a feeling, walks like a feeling and smells like a feeling it must be a feeling, right? ~ NotNathan
Here's 20 words that I've been wrestling with for years as an INTP:
"If I care about you, I care about your mind too. I'm not being a jerk just by correcting you."
If there was an "INTPs in a poem" video, this would be a great script for it! ~ Nathan
@@lovewho Oh really? Aww thanks! ^.^
Techincally it would be 21 since "I'm" is a contraction of "I am" and therefore they count as two words.
Sincerely, an INTP
Jokes aside, that's a really sweet phrase
@@feliperoa5821 The contraction is itself a word, not ontologically somehow two. At least, thats what I'd argue :P
But thanks ^.^ Didn't think it'd garner such praise but its nice to be appreciated :D
@@satyasyasatyasya5746 interesting
2:24 "there is an almost comical disparity between the craziness that goes on in thier heads versus what actually gets verbalized" uf, one of the best lines for sure, also, relatable
"Unless they're on the internet" lmaoooooo
Couldn't resist saying that... ~ Nathan
It's still surprising to me how you don't have a million subscribers, out of all the mbti TH-cam channels I've seen and their creators by far yours is focused on accuracy and getting the proper point out there
Feel free to spread the good word far and wide and convert people to the cause 😈 (also thank you!) ~ Nathan
@@lovewho The problem is you are presenting logical reasons why an INTP should subscribe. You would be better served excluding reasons why we should not subscribe…
@@lovewho I can't say for sure, but you scream INTP to me
@@marcusaureliusregulus2833 That he is.
Let's not forget the analogies and metaphors that set this channel apart from the crowd!
This is such a wonderfully perfect and complete description of my INTP son. 21 would be "goofy". A lot of INTPs are born teachers, I think, both because they are so verbally articulate and also because 4th function Fe can give an endearing and safe vibe. This can make the pedantry much less grating than when it comes (for example) from an ExTJ. And Ne makes them witty, perhaps also amusingly flaky at times.
I had a wonderful highschool history teacher who was an INTP. He was obsessed with the Napoleonic wars, but somehow the class was so peaceful.
This is the best MBTI channel.
Funnily enough, goofy was a word that I considered including!
In previous videos I've spoken about how the archetypical role of teacher (in whatever form it takes) represents a well-developed and fully realised INTP. It allows them to take their knowledge and insights and share them in that Fe way. Also, it counteracts one of their weaknesses - not being action oriented. By being conduits for knowledge in others they can out-source the effort of implementing it, so to speak ~ Nathan
I am INTP. I can identify with the Teacher trait, but only as a 1 on 1 tutor, because I can easily find the correct level at which to interact with the other person and provide appropriate explanations and analogies that neither talk down nor overwhelm the other.
I’ll give you an example of how an INTP relates to the world. In college, I was an engineer who would often do my homework assignments sitting in large lecture halls for classes that were outside my major and for which I was not enrolled.
I enjoyed listening to the lectures while I worked on the math problems that were part of my major. One day, in an economics class, they talked about a “new” form of packaging that allowed milk to sit unrefridgerated on shelves for 6 months.
The economics professor said that they had to market it to people who enjoyed camping and young mothers who wanted to pack milk for their children while on the go because most people wouldn’t buy milk outside of the dairy case.
As an INTP, once I learned the packing existed, I was sold. You can do away with refrigerated dairy trucks, the dairy cases in the stores, and all the energy wasted while having milk that lasted months instead of days. You even avoided frequent trips to the store for milk as you could buy three months at a time and keep it on the shelf in your pantry instead of taking up space in the fridge.
So many people want to do the things they always have done. They want to keep their routines. They would never accept room temperature milk from a box in a random aisle. If society were only INTPs, one day an announcement would be made listing the benefits of making the switch and 90% of INTPs would jump on board if the logic was sound.
This is why the world doesn’t always make sense to an INTP.
I grew up in a family of feelers, ESFP, ESFJ, ENFP, ISFP. Omg I was disliked just for being me. I learned I was somehow “not good enough” without understanding exactly why. I spent my life trying to “earn” good enough and realizing I was coming up short. This video is like the ice of winter melting and the river of appreciating who I naturally am to finally flow freely. Deep breath, and much gratitude!
I feel that. My family is great but I’ve got an ENFJ- A sister, ISFJ- T dad, and an ESFJ-A mom. Nobody here really cares about the random topics I’ve looked at, or the book I’m excited about.
It can be kind of exhausting to feel so out of place.
It's helped me so much to realize I'm an INTP after years of thinking I was extroverted and judgmental. I really was neither of those things but I'd developed them as means of coping with feeling like an outside all the time. I can still be judgmental of people (and systems) for being irrational and not having good answers though. But knowing I'm not a natural extrovert has helped me be more comfortable with myself and know that I just need to make more of an effort if I want to get out and be with others.
People can mistype themselves in so many different ways. I often advise that people take their time when typing themselves for this reason. It's so easy to assume you're a certain way only to find out it was the external circumstances that caused you to act that way, a way that is not natural for you. That last sentence of yours is really great to hear. After all, that is one of the main reasons for learning about personalty types - to foster more self-acceptance ~ Nathan
As an INTP, thank you for the the compliments ☺️
Anytime... ~ Nathan
I'm an INTP with an ENTP glitch which shows up in the form of very eloquent cuss words when surrounded by visionless morons.
That's just the Fe coming out of our mouths... Eloquent or not!
It's good to be able to channel ENTP troll mode when needed ~ Nathan
@@lovewho INTP here, can confirm, more often than not, I have my ENTP moments while I'm at work.
Why are entps being equated to "cuss words" here? 💅 I have never cussed on anyone 😌.
-an entp
ISTP mother here with an INTP teen. One of the things I love about INTPs is that curiosity and childlike joy/wonder. My kid impresses me frequently with their breadth and depth of knowledge too. I consider myself fortunate when they info dump the most random things lol.
It's also nice to think that they'll carry that sense of wonder into adulthood as well. So many people lose that it seems! ~ Nathan
@@lovewho Shit yes. It's a gift I think to be able to retain it. I look forward to seeing how it manifests in their older years.
Me, as an INTP, I have an ESFP mother, and Its not easy having an extroverted mom, **ptsd flashbacks of times being in a hurry and having to wait for her to stop talking to some random person in the store after its already been like an hour**
i wish i had an Ixxx for both parents, cuz im pretty sure my dads one too, but i dont talk to him, like, ever, i mean actually i guess that makes sense tho……LOL
Female INTP of mature years here. Absolutely spot on as usual. Hoping I'm not coming across as pedantic as I might have in my earlier years. As Sara Nonimus said, it does feel good to be seen. It feels especially good to be understood and valued. Spent most of my life just feeling odd and not fitting in, to be honest.
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That is one of the best parts of this field. People who don't often get the chance to be fully seen can be at least partially seen through these descriptions. INTPs are a type who definitely run the risk of being misunderstood or just not seen by the people in their life, even the people close to them ~ Nathan
Also being a female INTP, I have recently accepted that feeling odd or awkward is going to be something I'll know for the rest of my life. Although It's a comfort having a sibling who is an INTP. I don't let myself be upset by it it's just another part of life.
Another Gen-x female INTP. It's nice to see others. Do you think your inf Fe has matured as well? I spent a year awhile back trying to develop mine into a more useful tool. I also an trying to figure out what is "still maturing INTP" vs "INTP whose formative years were affected by culture (gen z)"...meaning maturing/lack of experience vs broadly cultural experience" when I come across them on the internet.
My husband is an INTP and this is so spot on. As a big-picture ENFP,, he can drive me nuts sometimes when he wants to nitpick my statements. But due, in part, to our love of our Ne has kept us together for 3 decades.
I find those inter-type dynamics fascinating. I've witnessed ENFPs and INTPs have their "Ne moments" together and it's a thing of beauty indeed ~ Nathan
Probably with a name like Squirl Girl a husband who drives you nuts is ideal. :)
I adore your Marvellous videos, Nathan. I know a few INTPs, and I have learned so much from them. They've helped me to use my tertiary TI more often, and to further analyse situations, as opposed to just jumping straight in.
Why thank you! Always great to hear that people enjoy the videos! That's a nice combination - having someone whose main function is your tertiary function. It's a good recipe for developing your lower functions in a natural way ~ Nathan
19/20. All good points, with the possible exception of "zen."
I particularly liked #2. I remember the moment, decades ago, when I read that INTPs tend to use qualifiers in their verbiage. I played back every conversation I'd ever had in my life and it suddenly clicked. Now, I notice myself doing it in real time, in both verbal and written conversations.
As for "zen"... that one's tricky. "Zen" is often a term used for physical actions taken without conscious thought... which isn't our strong suit. The noise in our brains isn't easily silenced, and our Ne is only half-controlled at best, tempting us with one rabbit hole after another. If we seem unbothered, it's likely we either didn't notice the problem or we ignored it because we find it uninteresting relative to our current pursuit... or we're scared to face the problem head-on and we're distracting ourselves so as not to feel our feelings.
I think there's a duality to our emotions that most other types overlooks. We like gallows humor, I think, because it exemplifies that duality. Emotions rarely stand on their own, but usually carry their opposite with them. Happiness brings anticipation and/or memory of loss. We can be in a crowd of people and feel more isolated and alone than when we're actually alone. We find joy in things other people find mundane and we find mundanity in things in which other people find joy.
I like your funny words, magic man. 😂
This is a good point. I meant zen in the sense of detachment from things, but I agree that the action part doesn't fit as neatly. That being said, there is a way to marry those things. Abraham Lincoln (who I consider to be an INTP) would often delay taking action, to the point where it would drive the more forceful and proactive people around him nuts. He'd wait until there was sufficient momentum behind the action he took, which often meant that the public were supporting it. That way he'd ride the wave of life more often than swimming against the tide. To me, that seems to be a zen-like approach that someone who's not naturally forceful and action-oriented would take! ~ Nathan
@@lovewho Zen for me is a state when a person becomes calm in existing, no ups and downs emotion, love and hate with people in his life, closeness and distance with world. The analyzing and thinking is done. He understands the world and himself thoroughly.
I do agree that intps are slow to embrace or act until reaching a threshold (or never reaching it). It is often seen as backwards, slow, or disinterested on surface level. Is it Zen? I am not so sure. I personally have not felt zen, not inside, for close to 60 years.
@@lovewho True enough... although I think of it as more "otherwise occupied" than "zen." Our focus is rarely in line with those around us, so we may be quite calm and rational while others are falling apart... or we may be agitated because none of our close associates has any interest in or furthering their understanding of time dilation and how it directly results in gravitational fields, leaving everyone around us wondering what kind of mental malfunction we're having or what kind of drugs we must be on... or calling us conspiracy theorists when we observe that, based on the available data, there was more than one shooter at the JFK assassination and Oswald clearly wasn't one of them (all based on simple math, by the way). YMMV.
@@lovewho i agreed with everything you’ve even said prior in the video about intp’s being “zen”. as an intp, i can very easily detach myself from reality and have a birds eye view like you said. on top of that, i always restrain myself from doing anything that i consciously know will harm someone (mental or physically) unless i ABSOLUTELY have to. sometimes to the point where i wait too long. but never act off of impulse. i am also able to calm myself down and i do this very easily by thinking of ways the other person is justified in their actions from their perspective.
I understand that everyone’s different, and it seems like intps in particular can be drastically different from one another. this could just come down to life experience (long story short, i grew up in a very militant household and did martial arts for 14 years while training in china and japan). but i feel like even with my experience in being able to control myself, it was never hard to restrain myself. i tend to be a very passive person by nature, i only act out when i’m pushed too far for way too long. and at that point i explode with everything i got with no restraint. but that takes a LOT of effort.
maybe zen isn’t the best word, but as of rn i cant think of a better way to describe my temperament in that way.
regardless, if ur reading this, this is one of the best videos i’ve seen analyzing my type. pretty accurate all the way though, good stuff 🤘
Best INTP video made to date. I loved how you had the definition of each word on the screen while you gave your personal interpretation and reason for choosing each one
That's awesome to hear. There are many other INTP videos on the channel. Feel free to check those out if you haven't already. Thank you for this comment. Much appreciated! ~ Nathan
😂 This made me laugh at myself….thank you. I’ve been struggling with friends calling me “negative”……..when I’m just pointing out the obvious.
I challenge myself in sports that I can compete with myself albeit in a group, like running, mountaineering, yoga, swimming. I love studying and knowing everything about my endeavors, more than doing it. When I felt like I had known enough I tend to lose interest. Then again, this is also why I always have something in the background subconscious. Right now my obsession is swimming (pretty technical). I am also eyeing golf because I was defeated by it 20 years ago. I have wanted to learn cycling, snowboarding, and rock climbing for 10/15 years. I am very risk aware therefore I have to watch enough body in action and about the endeavor before I reach a point to try. I had a fear of water for close to 50 years. However I watched a lot of swimming instruction videos over the decades before I moved to a community with a nice pool in 2021 (no convenient pool access before). Now some neighbors ask me if I was in a swim team or a master swimmer.
That's awesome. I wonder whether you get bored of those activities when you feel like you've mastered them, or solved enough of the problems to satisfy yourself? ~ Nathan
@@lovewho solve enough problems thus the only challenge remained is to push self to the next level. I was never sports inclined except learning about the sports; the physiology and psychology behind it. Money is another deciding factor, hence the reluctance to get into cycling, diving, sports fishing, and handguns.
People think INTPs are nerds most times (they probably are) but in my case i was also athletic. A lot of sports is just understanding of concept and form then imitation. If you can do those effectively INTPs can appear as natural athletes as well. Swimming, soccer, ice skating, skateboarding, skiing, surfing, tennis, jiu-jitsu, etc have been a couple of my hobbies in the past and people always wonder how a "nerd" like me is so good at this stuff.
Hi, Nathan,
I don't know if i'm an INTP, however, i think there's a great possibility that's one of the personality types i have more probabilities to be. In that case, i want to thank you for this video. Not only was very entertain it but also that INTP part of me felt very.... understand. So, thank you for it.
(That was me using my Fe? God, i feel so dirty.)
Thank you for spending a rare Fe moment on me. I appreciate it greatly ~ Nathan
Beautifully dissected!
LOL. I returned here for a giggle and found more than I expected. One rally struck was "Pedantic" because of situation yesterday,
In U.K we have general election this week. I've attended several "Hustings" (like "Town halls", for the non-Brits), mostly to protest for Palestine, but I've also attended the hustings themselves.
Yesterday the 3 main parties boycotted, leaving 4 minor parties, 3 right-wing (Christian People's Alliance, Social Democrats & Reform UK) and 1 left (Greens). It was poorly moderated, so there was unusually high amount of "audience participation", but a very British level of decorum was still maintained.
For sooo much of the 90 minutes my mouth was the largest bees nest in the world, as I tried not to constantly interrupt the absurd things being spouted by wilfully ignorant people, but several times I refused to hold myself back and had to correct or simply ask the question that challenged the logic of their silliness. It's just sooo hard to let silliness go unchallenged, especially when there's an audience of ~90 people.
I was already subscribed, Love
Well played ~ Nathan
I've been waiting for this video! This was absolutely spot on - there isn't one word I didn't identify with. At first I wasn't sure about fearless, because I'm the literal opposite of fearless in the traditional sense lol, but I definitely noticed what was described when talking to my friends lol
Infp with intp partner. I absolutely love him! I have thicker skin being an older infp but he’s super sweet and understands how to communicate in a direct but not shredding way 😂
This was beautiful. I feel like you just described me in the nicest way possible. Thanks!
I’m glad you enjoyed the video. Feel feee to check out the other INTP videos on the channel if you haven’t already! ~ Nathan
This is one of the most insightful, distilled descriptions of an INTP I have heard. Thank you.
11 and 18) At some point, most INTPs reach the self-analysis stage of, "figure out how my body functions in order to optimize my mind.". Thus why my p90x set has seen quite a bit of use, actually.
I spit my imaginary coffee out multiple times,especially the part about making preemptive caveats,corrections and qualifications.I am self concious that I do that and view that as the intitiation qualifier as to whether somebody will gell with me or not. Great content,this guy knows me better than myself😊
absolutely nailed it
Glad to hear it! ~ Nathan
LOL. I've been subscribed for some time. INTP. :p
And you are always spot on with INTPs. Too bad you never joined the mailing list.
Glad to hear it! Ok, I'm not sure what that mailing list is referring to... but allow me to shamelessly promote my newsletter which you can find via the linktree link in the description ~ Nathan
This is a perfect description of my brother. Great video as always.
Thanks for keeping it post
Great video, would be very interesting to see some of the unhealthy traits of INTPs too. Unrelated: I find myself jumping back and forth from video to video trying to get a bird's-eye view of the types, have you thought of making like a cheat sheet of, say, 20 healthy and unhealthy words for all types, or with the cognitive functions of the types and a brief overview of each, as a quick go-to refresher for those of us studying the system? Cheers from a happy subscriber!
I did a video series titled “The Darkside of the XXXX”. I’m pretty sure there’s an INTP episode as well! ~ Nathan
This is a great description of INTPs. Very accurate and unbiased.
You’re a legend man
Why thank you...! ~ Nathan
Love this :)
Good! ~ Nathan
I aspire to be as precise as you.
All the videos start off as scripts. If I were improvising and talking in real-time I'd be far less precise. There are a handful of livestream videos of me and Luann, and some where we're just talking to each other and then one interview that I did on a different channel. Those will show my... well... lack of precision in real time! ~ Nathan
@@lovewhoif I may add, it's not the precision per se that's very impressive, but the ability to articulate ideas. Even the off-scripted videos are a lot of fun.
@@olivia-performanceartist3693 Exactly. The ability to articulate thoughts concisely and creatively.
6:08 Eloquent "...usually in written form." Bang on the mark lol.
So I just had a conversation about various personality theories and such with someone and I figured "I know just the person to look up as an example of MBTI theory" and you upload this. About half of the words describe the conversation we've had so far, so this is just going to be hilarious to show them to just see how accurate it is.
Thanks for the upload, it was perfect timing.
Always fun when a video arrives at the right time for a person! Thank you for this comment ~ Nathan
perfect description!
Glad you think so! It's always nice to get good feedback on the videos ~ Nathan
@@lovewho I always appreciate you including the artistic/creative side so ingrained in INTP individuals. many people often totally miss that half of who we are.
I also have to thank you because every time I look at your INTP descriptions I feel invigorated. while I'm proud of my personality type in many respects, I'm also well aware of my flaws. and there are so many moments where I feel without a place in the world or totally disconnected from the world itself that I don't even care about having a place there. your INTP descriptions always help me get back on track.
ok, this probably would have been a better feedback, but it could definitely be summed up in "perfect description!" ;)
I've come to the conclusion of IN(TF)P lol. It is definitely an alternating factor that depends and molds itself according to the situation. I find it... Best of Both Worlds.
Same here, I seem to be a sort of mix between INFP and INTP. I'm not exactly sure how to get more accurate than that
I can relate to a lot of the INTP descriptions, but if the phrase “Even years later, I regret not listening to my gut when I made that decision” looks more familiar than “I regret not having done more research before making that decision,” you’re probably an INFP! 😅
@@elizabethl6187 I'm more of an INTP than INFP definitely.
@@hritviknijhawan1737That’s good. My son is an INTP and he is even less of a social “joiner” than I am, but you can always count on him to catch details and make connections that others miss. Even when he’s with other bright kids. The world needs INTPs, but unfortunately they don’t know that they need you!
Excellent Distillation Accurate Pithy. Well done.
Disembodied got me. I've always likened myself to an apartment building w/ an agoraphobic, penthouse dwelling landlord.
I could be here all day elaborating on all this, but I feel seen as an INTP. On pretty much every point.
That's cool to hear. I often wonder whether people will end up relating to the things in the videos or not! ~ Nathan
INTPs almost makes me wanna cancel my INTJ membership.
Since you're a member of the upgraded premium INTJ package I don't think you have anything to worry about ~ Nathan
i can’t describe myself the way you have done…. but first i have got to know more about these words (quick-witted)
Quick-witted, I think you'll enjoy that one ~ Nathan
All your videos are great.
As an INTP, sometimes I try to say what's in this video, but I fail to be ... verbally eloquent.
I wish there were more french videos like these. Sometimes I have trouble "translating" what's in my mind.
I feel lile being bilingual as an INTP is harder ... Or maybe it's easier. Hey maybe I could literally translate your videos? Do you have access to multi-language videos on your TH-cam studio?
Love your videos/ INTP here. Pretty much spot on. At one point in my life, I realized my favorite activities were sedentary and solitary . So I made an effort to be more physical and social. 🤗
That's really awesome. Many people don't realise their natural weaknesses, let alone make efforts to fix them! ~ Nathan
Well done.
Hey mr I have been watching your channel for quite a while but I only subscribed today u helped me know about the mbti community but I am having a crisis again I might be either intp 5w6 or either intj 5w6
It is so danged great to be understood.
Glad to hear it! ~ Nathan
ah. I like how there's an 11 written on the chapter so there's no need to count to which number I've jumped to! Nice. Kind of relate to every one of these to some degree.
I’m an INTP myself, and I think most of us do ourselves a disservice by saying “oh I’m so misunderstood”, because literally everyone most likely feels that way, even if they don’t always say it outright. I never feel understood but that doesn’t make me smart or special. As an INTP im not even that smart, I’m just an introverted over thinker who obsesses over dumb crap without usually doing anything. People are annoying af, but I’m also a person and by extension probably also incredibly annoying to at least one other person. I actually hate being an INTP because I know that I’m an egotistical bitch sometimes and really need to vibe check myself.
INTP-A 5W4 here, love it
Hope you enjoyed the video! ~ Nathan
I'm an INTP , I'm Subscribed , more INTP Content Please ... Thank you
Your point on disembodied is so fucking accurate.
Even after a couple of years investigating this mbti rabbit hole I still find myself surprised at the accuracy of this video.
Paradoxically, as naturals as we are at analyzing we fail to understand ourselves as hammers fail to hit themselves. ❤
I'm intrigued by how accurate this is and I'm now wondering if a lot of us have been wongly diagnosed with ADHD and spectrum disorders just because society isn't built with our personality type in mind.
I think what bothers me most is the lack of definined boundaries or appropriate definitions in conceptual arguments. What means one thing to one group, might have a different meaning in another group. This leaves people talking past eachother and leads to emotional outbursts or ad hominem attacks.
The majority of people focus on one tree in a forest and rarely consider that each tree individually is part of a whole. It narrows perspective and while this might be advantageous, if thats your only goal, fixation obscures the interconnectiveness all individuals play in the collective.
Definining your words leads to clarrification and understanding of context. Why read your mind, when you can communicate your thoughts?
Imagine summing up your whole existence in 20 words
Glad you found it accurate! ~ Nathan
I only recently learned that I might be an INTP. The definition certainly fits me.
I believed to be on the Autism spectrum or have ADHD, but maybe I'm just an INTP.
It feels good to see oneself represented and realise there's others like me around.
Thanks a lot for the video and the info, I'll use it well.
i didnt realize.. that button there😂
A fearless, playful, easygoing warrior of reason.⛵
Keep defining me😫
literally me pausing the video to go look up the definition for the word pedantic
In terms of discovering the "truth," are INTPs not the chosen ones? Literally Neo (the Chosen One) from the Matrix is an INTP. Winston from 1984 is an INTP. Everyone else is asleep, I'm afraid ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
As an INTP, it certain feels like I'm an outsider pursuing the Truth in a world filled with people who want to be numb and ignorant, yes. I'd say if you're the same way, let's be friends--except I innately don't trust anyone. 😛
@@elizabethkenobi1365 don't worry, internet is a safe place, unless you let your curiosity drive you to strange/unwished web sites/pages (it happens a lot to me)
(INTJ) I think of all the J vs P types, our two types are probably the closest, and there are a great many thing an INTJ can relate to here. As a tech writer and editor, however, I find INTPs can be infuriating.
Their text is often inelegant and messy, taking constant twists and turns (with plenty of annoying interjections like this), as the reader is expected to follow the winding trail of their internal logic. Especially with documentation and how-to guides, I would much prefer something from an ISTJ, who will probably have an INTP-like nerdiness, but understand the need for cohesive structure.
That's really fascinating! I would like to look into this more actually and see whether there are noticable differences between the writing styles of the various types. I've noticed that certain types will format their messages in a nice way even on places like discord where the chat is moving along fast. Other types will talk in small short bursts ~ Nathan
@@lovewho Ever noticed INTJs are highly likely to have edited their comments? I presume we're all cursed to make sure we've articulated a point as best as possible.
I would note that even though I find INTP documentation maddening (as do the folks who pay me to re-write it!), other INTPs seem to enjoy that style of text.
I think you'll find that if you can articulate a proof of how a certain aspect of their writing is flawed, INTPs will feel so embarrassed by failing at their lead function that they'll never make that mistake again.
@@cyberneticbutterfly8506 It would take work and a lot of discipline (though it would be well worth it). The main issue, as far as I can tell, is the internal logic of Ti combined with the explorative nature of Ne. It has a kind of 'come with me on my magical journey' nature, which does appeal to some types, but most people won't be able to follow it. The primary skill a writer like that needs to learn is structural elegance, which usually comes from simplicity and omitting needless information.
@berry Could you expand on what you don't like about your writing when you read it later? (That can be a good thing, however, real writing is in the revision, not the drafting.) I don't know if it will be of use to you, but perhaps I can share the chief points of my writing process over the years, and what I've found makes for good copy that is ready to publish.
For an INTP I would say concentrate on structure more than you would have thought to otherwise. Forget about the internal logic for the moment, you INTPs will probably have that down pat, but look at the overall structure of the document, the size of the paragraphs, the use of headings, and so on.
It might sound strange, but how does your text *look*? Great text looks pretty and is easy to digest. When someone writes huge paragraphs with difficult sentences, it could be off-putting despite having the best ideas in the world. I need my text to be pretty. I need it to snap together like haiku. So how do I do that?
Firstly, I don't write in a word processor, and I only use pen-and-paper for taking notes. I usually write in raw text ASCII -- most of the magazines I've written for use ASCII anyway -- so something like Notepad is what I go for, but slightly fancier. I use ASCII text editors like KWrite or Gedit under Linux, using a nice colour scheme and font so it's not headache-inducing and feels pleasant to write in.
Why do I write in raw text? Because I need to chop and change things quickly. I need to move around text without the formatting of a word processor getting in the way, and it helps to remove the visual distractions of all that superfluous interface. I particularly need to break paragraphs into pieces and shuffle sentences around, and move this paragraph above that paragraph, where doing so in a word processor is a constant battle against the formatting.
The next bit is the cutting -- and chances are that you will be over an assigned word count anyway. At the bottom of the page I write CUTTING ROOM FLOOR, and anything I cut gets pasted under that heading. The first rule you see in editing is usually 'omit needless words', and the first thing an editor will ask you to do is cut anything unnecessary. So go through your text and cut anything like redundant syntax, and if there's a shorter way of writing your sentence, shorten it. As for any ideas that aren't 100% necessary (so we're mostly talking whole sentences and paragraphs here), try cutting them and pasting them in the cutting room floor section.
Once you've done that, your text will be very tight, but probably a bit too short and clippy and lacking soul. Plenty of editors will run with that no worries, but for a magic formula, what I've found hits the spot for an editor is to strip it all the way to bare metal then come back one step. Stripping it all the way back will bring you under the assigned word count, and then when you look in the cutting room floor, you can find a few things to put back in that will give your text back its colour and soul while still being tight and nicely structured.
*Then* use a word processor at the end to catch your typos and spelling mistakes. ;-)
Im a ti-heavy, ambivert kinda entp, and relate to most of these words. (Not reserved ahahah)
That makes sense. There's a great deal of overlap between ENTPs and INTPs, especially if you're a more introverted ENTP ~ Nathan
Yeah, but all that Ti is lonely without healthy dosages of Fe world.
I am really conflicted if I am INTP or INFP 😅.
They both resonate completely with me 😅.
My nemesis type
Is there such a thing in reality as a nemesis MBTI (Yin Yang ☯️ is a thing).
Perhaps the nemesis factor is more about being immature versions of whatever MBTI is in the mix?
I ask because mutual trust & respect can flip a nemesis MBTI into a catalyst for counterbalance of strengths & weaknesses.
Groups engaging teamwork and collaboration benefits greatly when the maturity is well seasoned; Diversity is highly desirable in teamwork because it rounds out potential to a more full-spectrum situation. All in my on my opinion, so know it's not an argumentative post.
-- ability to answer to no one but themselves. 🥴
"head first pun intended" nyahaha
2 Precise: tautologies, INTPs speak in tautologies.
INTPs speak like they program... by default.
I’m a fucking strange INTP 🫣
When I was little one of my mom's friends said to me, "You are very inquisitive."
To which I replied, "What's that mean?"
Isfp video pleasee :((((
Let's turn that frown upside-down! 👋😁
Can you do a video on intp females
3:45
7:15
My bf is an INTP.
I'm an INTJ.
Is it a good combination?
(The answer won't affect my decisions; I'll always love him)
Yes it is
INTPs have the most compatibility with ENTJs and second most compatibility with INTJs. Think of two puzzles pieces that fit perfectly together, they are a great match, a lot of great things can come out of it. These type of relationships are not only about love but also about growth since these two types are almost shadows of each other. One person's weak areas will be compensated by the other person. But there are some common weak areas such as neither of them is an initiator type, both are withdrawn, unless they both work on their feelings , not being aware of their own emotions or low EQ can adversely affect the relationship. So the only thing I will advise that both of you work on your EQ and refrain from turing arguments into a competition of who is right, as both type has inclination to think only they are right, everyone else is wrong
I wish you the best, hope you stay together for a very long time ~ INTP
@@Ab-ub2ii thank you so much for such a detailed answer ☘️
People pay to exercise?
I'm confused because all these 20 words feel so like me but I also like build things and using tools to pull things apart and rebuild/repair it better than it was .
And apparently this is an ISTP trait.
It makes sense that there'd be lots of overlap between INTPs and ISTPs. At some point I will do the ISTP equivalent of this video too and we can see whether those words apply better to you! ~ Nathan
@@lovewho I think there's no hard line where you're one or the other , plus there's environmental ( nurture Vs nature) ,educational and cultural overlay to consider.
Your videos are very useful, thanks.
I still struggle to understand whether I am an INTP or an ENTP...
Do you feel energized being with people, or do you need time alone to recharge? That's how you determine whether you're introverted or extroverted. I thought for years I was an E when I was really an I.
@@kimberlee440 Look. I spend most of the time alone. I find it a bit of a hustle to go out with people. However, I do enjoy interaction sometimes and you will often find me debating with the teachers and calling their bs out. I am often called a sigma male by pears and very intelligent, although I barely believe this is true. Edit: I also find myself hiding my power since I believe it should be kept private.
@Leonardo Degenerate If you find being with people "a bit of a hustle" you're an introvert. Simple.
@Leonardo Degenerate
Your explanation seems more introverted. However, if you think of the scale as if it were a measuring stick you could be close to the line between I and E (hopefully that's an understandable description)
@Trapped in the Dunya That's a great way to put it. Sometimes I think I identify as an ANTP or E/INTP because I love performing and have a job that requires me to interact with many people every day, but I require a LOT of alone time to recharge. That's ultimately what led me to believe I fall more on the I side of the line than E.
I can say I am an Infp but when I listen to descriptions of intps in my head it goes "I do the same". Is it my explaining nature or my need for precision and accuracy that I have to point out to everyone if their way of talking is unprecise and hence not understandable at all... And also me explaining something for minutes because I don't wanna miss out something and even correct myself if I go into detail. XD on the hand if my intp fiance is doing the same explaining thing I get annoyed because I understood him the first sentence he said. Most people annoy me if they start explaining something that was obvious and clear the first sentence they said... XD I am kinda rude, i fear
But a difference I absolutely can agree on is the lack of interest in hypothetical or unrealistic scenarios. If he goes like "I want to time travel with a tank to the Neanderthal age" me answers "u have no gas for using the tank, what is the point?" 🤣 I answer stuff like this in a manner of realism. I can't help it
Ah, that type.
That godamn type
That type with the dominant Ti that makes you feel stupid 🤭
@@tytration more like that type with dominant Ti that make them clueless
Probably miss out sci fi.
Why do you... read everything... like... this... all the time... it really... gets... on my nerves... its.... hard to control... when... you once noticed...
And who likes us?
I disagree with the description of intps as abstract.
The the ne authority completely develops in their thirties,the process beginning around adolescence.
Ne is also much more closely attached to fe than ti because it's an extraverted lens of perception linked to an extraverted judging cognitive function fe.
Though indeed it does broaden the perspective of ti and improve the adaptability of ti frameworks to new paradigms as well as disrupt the pattern schemes (comfort zones😉)
Of si child.
Intps also use ne pessimistically not that that's a bad thing.
They use the foresight of ne to avoid pitfalls and undesirable out comes than to seek the realization of possibilities.
Though they can use it optimisticly (exploration, experimentation and visions realization)
Sort of like how entps use ti authority
To use the negative elimination method of seeking truth.(this and that is false therefore what so ever remains must be true as opposed to that is true therefore whatever fails to comply must either be false or closer to the truth)
Rather intps incline more towards being empirical sentinels of knowledge.
And ti hero doesn't mean ti hero users are rationalists that seems to be an arrogant assumption (pride and arrogance are not the same the inability to recognize other perspectives is arrogance)
Some ti users seek truth in various ways of life like religion.and use ti in service of a greater text.(not all ti users give their intellect more authority than it's due)
I'm INTP, and you've got me sussed. But the bit about us being pedantic? Perhaps in the sense of the origin of the word - making a show of one's knowledge, (from the French root pedant), in the sense we like debate and discussion. But in the modern sense of going into unnecessary, annoying and tedious detail, and being in any way boring? Surely not!
I might have missed it... is Nathan an INTP himself?
Yup
Intp, too smart for fart. I thought that sounded funny. Could it even be original?
Quick witted? I feel like the master of the "know what I should have said" 5 minutes later. It's the one thing I envy about my INTJ friends.
INTPs are never sure of themselves. Something that I've seen for decades in the INTP community. Yeah, I'm olds as fuck. In the beginning days of the Internet as we know it, there was an email list (it still exists in some form, but email is a lost art now, and it's rarely active now unfortunately), and we had fun things like "So and so is my favorite INTP, I'll kill you last", which lead to another chain on how he could be killed last, since the person saying so was also INTP. Unfortunately the person to be killed last managed to kill himself by locking himself out on a second story balcony to go smoke and fell to his death trying to get down.
That's a good point actually. Also, that's an awful feeling, realising that you had the perfect response but far too late. I think this is something that INTPs get much better at as time goes on though! ~ Nathan
There's too much sssss... in your speech sir
Do an INTP for 20 minutes can listen all day
There will definitely be many more INTP videos on this channel as time goes on! ~ Nathan
I am really enjoying your channel 😊. I just discovered it today. INTP here 😉