I would choose the Polestar 2 without any doubt. My parents have a Model 3, every day I am with it, the more I dislike it. In this category of EV, range is not everything. You must have confort, quality, practicality graound clearance and good desing. Thanks Kris for bringing us this superb content !!!!
Agree. The quality just isn’t there on the Tesla. I use one every day and I also dislike it more and more. Toyota quality interior at best. Sure it looks all techy and nice at first until you really start to use it and see how cheaply made and unintuitive the whole thing is.
@@andatinyshiver fabric seats are a traditional automaker feature. Pano roofs don't exactly scream Toyota either. And I thought the biggest complaint about model 3 interior was the piano black consoles? The Polestar 2 has piano black buttons! If you're used to all of the buttons of a Toyota though, you'll feel at home in a polestar
@@zenmagnets I'm not sure where you're coming from with this. I neither mentioned fabric seats nor pano roofs. Neither did the person I was commenting to. We were both commenting on our personal experience with Tesla cars, specifically the Model 3. To address fabric seats, I couldn't care less and for me it doesn't have any bearing on how I feel about a car as I've seen some very well done fabric seats. They're not my personal choice, but it's fine. About pano roofs? Sure it's Toyota and just about every other manufacturer out there at this point, at least as an option. Pano sunroof or moonroofs are on Camries, Rav4, and Highlander for example. My Fiat 500L has a gigantic pano roof in which the whole front half of the roof opens. My Volvo XC60 has a pano sunroof as standard. Not sure what your point was about that though since i didn't bring it up in the first place. My comment was based on our experience with a Model 3 that my partner had as well as the Model 3's I drive regularly. Bottom line, the interior and exterior fit and finish is awful for what the car costs. Rattles, creaks, poor upholstery quality, poor plastics quality. Loose panels. I could go on and on. I'm in the SF Bay area and there are a lot of Tesla's here. So I see it regularly. More than I would like for what's supposed to be a more premium car. The car UI itself is poorly designed and gets in the way. Just too many random tech glitches too. If you like Tesla, great. For the reasons above, I don't. What are you on about with the comment about buttons? Toyota's have tons of buttons. I hate that. Both the Tesla and Polestar are pretty button free. The Polestar interior is very similar to my Volvo interior and UI. I can do pretty much everything with my touchscreen center display. There are remarkably few buttons. Unless you count the Play/Pause, Track select, and defrosters. Oh and parking brake . The majority of that can be done without the buttons. To compare a Polestar interior with a Toyota with regards to buttons is kind of silly. Night and day difference. Comparing a midrange Toyota interior to a Model 3 interior based on the qualify of the materials and workmanship is a much better comparison. They're both cheap and look it.
Thank you for the fine conclusion. Someone said, that TM3 is the better EV while Polestar 2 is the better car. I would prefer also the Polestar over the Tasla. Or to be precise, I preferred. I have one and I am so happy with it. The Polestar 2 is such a great car. Not to forget the practicality with the trunk.
After 1 week, I clicked again this vid to check one thing. And I am impressed how many downvotes there are in it. The thumbs up is used if you liked the video. Not the car. So sad people can not realize that :(
I am an early believer ! I had one of the first P2 in Belgium . I had many problems , converters, high voltage, dempers, problems with 4G ,...but Polestars service was great , pic and delivery , extra year warranty and € 500 Plugsurfing ! After all my Polestar is a fantastic car and I would by iT again ! Thanks for your review .
Super intriguing to see if Polestar can take it a couple notches more the next upgrade. The drive experience they already have pocketed. Very nice, comfy and quiet to drive, and the infotainement are no1, in my humble opinion. Thanks for your work, time and effort Kris. 👍😎👍
I agree that polestar is a rightly competitor to M3. The one you like and in the end buy is just a question of personal taste and preferences. In that way there is no winer! Big like for the video! 👍
This. I ordered a Polestar, but at least 75% of that decision was based on subjective points (Driving feel, aesthetics, etc). At the end of the day the cars are close enough that you're not in a bad place choosing either. Which is 100% good for the consumer. The EV market is getting increasingly competitive which I see as a pure win.
I've been a Tesla fan from day one (that's 2013 in NL). Now we have both a '18 model s 75D and a '19 model 3 LR DM. The only reason the model 3 is staying is because of the summer trips to spain and France with a trailer. Tesla is the only option with viable charging options via the Paris/A75 corridor to Spain. Ionity, Total and Shell are coming but there are large gaps still (Lille-Paris, no HPC around Orleans). Just test drove a ID4. Perfect car (aside from a few GUI mishaps). Miles better in interior space than the model 3. I will test drive the Polestar 2 and also the electric Volvo XC 40 later this month. I can only assume that those will also be better in all aspects except performance on long trips without propper HPC coverage. Once that is fixed -> Open the flood gates for the ID4's and Polestars of this world :-). I still highly respect Tesla for the disruption they've caused. But if other products are better, I'm gone :-)
It's completly legitimate your point of view. I am 23, and I've been a tesla fanboy until summer 2020. When I tested a Model 3, e-208, Model S MY19, e-2008 and VW ID.3. Then I realize that I was defending a brand that has no idea how to build vehicles. I agree is the best EV, but no the best vehicle.
I have ordered a Polestar 2, the range wasn't an factor since the Polestar has more than enough and I'll be charging at home/work. For me the styling of the Model 3 was a deal-breaker, the interior quality was another deal-breaker and the interior styling / lack of instrument display a third deal-breaker. The stories of bits falling off, poor paint and terrible service didn't help either. To me the Model 3 is an incredible drive-train in a dog of a car. Looking forward to the Polestar 2 with 19" wheels, real leather and some comfort.
Man I am glad you ordered the Polestar 2. My parents have a Model 3. And I am not happy with it. BTW my parents love it XD. Do you know some Polestar group in Telegram ? I am looking for some informations :) THanks ;)
@@mongoose000 Like I said glad you feel differently, now we have one less Tesla on the road or on order one less at the superchargers - good for us Tesla owners - thanx.👍
Not saying model 3 is perfect, but the interior is in my opinion much more clever than polestar. PS2 is small inside. That center console is so high it’s almost like a divider wall between the front seats! And it is either full of air or batteries, at least I couldn’t find much storage inside. And the gear knob is wasting space on top as well. Tesla feels airy with room to breathe and lots of storage in the car. The window lift buttons are so far back I had to pull my elbow back like a T-Rex to operate the buttons. And it’s heavy. Heavier than an I-Pace! In a straight line I didn’t notice it as it has plenty of power, and it didn’t lean in corners, but that weight is scary. In several roundabouts I got nervous about the handling as it would slide. Of course that meant I was driving too fast for it’s weight. The T3 is much lighter. PS2 springs were not that comfy at all over bumps etc. perhaps better than T3, but not comfortable like my old 3 series bmw. And back seat - being just 180cm my head hits the ceiling on the side and I’ve got only one finger width above me head. Notice Chris sits in the middle seat. I could not bring adults in the back seat on this. The driver screen is good but the center screen feels like going back to the very first iPad 1 with huge black frame. And many functions are not available during driving. Nanny mode. These are important points, not nitpicking.
Glad to hear that the Polestar 2 is a good Model 3 alternative. The road noise issue (at motorway speeds) is the one thing I'd like to improve about my 2019 Model 3. Like you say, we all value things differently. My personal scoring system would break down Autopilot, NoA, TACC, FSD (future), summon into individual features as well as tech: browser, maps, games, Netflix, etc. would all be scored individually for me. Really enjoying the series of reviews you're doing Kris, keep it up!
Judging by how Tesla is handling battery software updates (see the 2021 Model 3 SR+), the LG pack 2021 cars will most likely be able to get at least 200kW by the end of the year. That + the better efficiency, shows that Polestar can try to catch up, but Tesla is still still a few steps ahead.
That would be awesome if they up the speed! Seems like Polestar is taking the Model 3 serious, so hopefully that will push them to improve the P2 more and more 😊
@@KrisRifa good car companies making better and better cars will only help to push each other to innovate and push EV tech to new heights. Competition is needed.
It is nice to see why you prefer the polestar 2 above the model 3. I would personally give 1 or 2 more points to the Tesla, but in the end I ordered a polestar 2! Hopefully the updates keep on coming and make the car even better! Nice video, thumbs up 👍
I live in Australia and most cities are so far apart from each other that neither car will make the trip in one go anyway, so it almost nullifies the win for M3's range. Even with M3's greater range, it will still have to recharge halfway through the trip just like the P2. It will just have the advantage of not having to recharge for as long and given that half an hour is enough for a lunch break, I'm going to take just as long to order and eat my lunch whether I'm driving a Tesla or a Polestar. But if I do finish my lunch early, M3 has a few minutes head start which isn't much in the end. I'm looking to order a Polestar next year when they come out in Aus!!
Have a 2020 model 3 longrange and wen to try out he polestar 2.it felt a littlebit slower and not much more comfortable in the handling and suspension. However it is more quite in the cabin. But what bothered med the most is the center console which is very large and eats into my right knee.
I waited for 2 years for the Model 3, I put my deposit down the first day. Then when I sat in the first model I was unimpressed. Mainly because my wife drives a Volvo v60r with the polestar upgrade. the interior quality of the model 3 just felt more like a base model car. I know model 3 owners will say that they love how minimal it is and yes, that is true, but I know that solid volvo feeling and how great seats really feel and that solid feeling that you just know your car will always stay in one piece. I did wind up buying a Model S, because I just liked the air suspension and sunroof and auto liftback and well the alcantara and the Model S felt better.. still not as good as the volvo, Now I have an S p85 and the Volvo v60r, if we were to trade to just one car, it would be the polestar2 and you need to add one more thing.. Service. Tesla service has improved, but the personal level of service that I get at Volvo cannot be beat, I have had a few Volvos and I know my service tech Judd. he knows my car. we have had very little go wrong but when something needs attention, they are right on it.. I get a loaner vehicle and Volvo gives a brand new car, so that they can try to sell me one of course, but that wagon is so good. On long trips with the family, we don't take the S, we take the Volvo, because of the seats and it's a nice cruiser. Tesla fanbois will be angry with your decision, but it shows that it's not really all about that LONG range, that may not even be necessary or the faster charging, and if those 2 things are that important , wha does Tesla have over another company? I do think that the new Model S and X will start to rival the luxury cars, I can't wait to see them. For now, I will stick to my cars, as they work and it is so much cheaper to just stay in the car you have
Liked the review and comparison, Kris!. Here in UK Tesla has to win as shockingly bad charging infrastructure for BEV cars at the moment - most are 50Kw max and most of these seem to have faults of some kind
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It's kind of weird the UK isn't better with the charging networks. You've had tremendous development with electricity generation, one would think that EVs should fit well with that mindset.
Thanks for the Video Kris. I agree with your results. Only a minority needs the long range ability of a Tesla. But most will enjoy the quality in all aspects of the polstar. Too many adverts during the video though.
Some people may need or just prefer the longer range of the M3, and that is fine. I can totally respect that, but it is sad to see that Tesla people cant't seem to see past range and acceleration. IMO there is so much more to a car than numbers on paper!
Polestar 2 will come with the same size battery and rear wheel drive configuration and a heat pump, that's a real long range combo, who needs a 400+ HP in a car driven on European roads with speed limits all over the place.
100% Agree. I also wanna see some RWD with heat pump on Polestar 2. And my other wish, is if they could fit a 18 '' wheel. To have more confort, and to be more efficient :)
Great review Kris, thanks. There's one thing I think that might need to be added, especially outside Norway and that's the charging network. Nothing comes even close to the SuC network in terms of usability, reliability, price and comfort. Doing a long range trip on a non-Tesla in Europe, maybe crossing 3-4 countries can be a nightmare or very expensive. Disclaimer: Not a Tesla driver (yet?)
In Canada it's the oposit the supercharger network is abismal. In my province there's only 126 tesla stales on 12 sites and more than 600 public chargers in more than 400 sites
@Jadzia Dax, this might be true in some parts of Europe, but not true in The Netherlands (Fastned is king), Germany (Ionity and Aral), Luxembourg (Superchargy) and France (Ionity) ... all those combined do have more locations with fastchargers thqn en Tesla. Then there is Total, Q8 and Shell that is upcoming. The SuC USP is not as strong as it used to be.
@@philipclaeys6920 That's true, but you need a large number of charging card, have to pay insane prices (50-80ct/kWh) unless you pay a monthly fee or have some other 'mitigating circumstances', and way more aborted charging processes than you'd like.
@@jadziadax8658 that is also not always true, I drive an EQC and it comes with Mercedes Me Charge which gives access to approx. 95% of all chargingstations, maybe other brands offer similar charge options. And even with a Tesla you might need an additional card, the nearest SuC from my place is about 50 km ... there are alot of SuCs but not always on the road you're driving ... it might happen an other chargingstation is more practical (Avoidance of detours and/or avoidance of too busy SuC.)
Tesla fanboys are downvoting a video that does not say Tesla is the best again! Come on people, can we combat this and give this video a thumbs up? 👍😊👍
In the UK, the Heat Pump is only available as part of an expensive option pack. I think it should be standard and hopefully that will be the case soon. Otherwise, I like the Polestar more overall. The problem for me is that I can't test drive one unless I travel a long way to a test drive centre and there is a Tesla dealership in my town. Not ideal for Polestar.
Etron driver here. I don’t think the gap is as big as you have made it. I know it’s your opinion but I think the final score is much closer. You may have a bias to this car from being previously a Volvo driver - I have previously owned a Volvo and have to admit it was one of the best cars I’ve ever owned. The seats in particular are great and I guess the polestar seats are similar. Good review if not dubious awarding of points 😀
Not many car testers,are talking about the cost of Fast Charging your car.If you have to sit in line for 30min before plugging in,does it really matter if it charges 7min.faster? Would be interesting to see a race between Polestar 2 and M3 ,with time and cost .I think the cost of charging at a 150kw charger in Norway is about 5Nok..?Tesla charges 2,57Nok.Its almost half price ,and if you use a lot of SC,that will be a significant cost over many years.
That would be an interesting test! Circle K are 4,9nok/kWh. But Mer, Fortum, BKK etc are around 2,5-2,95nok/kWh. You also get 10-20% discount if you charge for a certain amount at those. Ionity with E-Tron card is the cheapest at 1,85nok/kWh 😊
Wow I really like your reviews... Good job! Your opinion is not driving your evaluation and you leave space for personal criterias... Thanks.. I in the market for a new EV in Canada... We are not as lucky as you in Norway, availability is an issue... But aiming toward the Polestar and waiting time seams not to bat.. My wife ad a Leaf SL 2014, we changed for the Bolt 2019 now she has the Bolt EV 2022... I use to own a eGolf 2017, sold it to my son... I also a lucky owner of a Harley Livewire.. :) Thanks again for you good job!
I've had 2 Model 3 and wanted to change (I wasn't sold on the Highland) so I bought a Polestar 2 awd since I found a great deal. I have it for a couple of weeks and I must say that I kinda miss my Tesla. Don't get me wrong: the P2 is great but it's not hassle free: I still haven't found a way to get the digital key and all of sudden, I lost all Internet connectivity (customer support didn't quite help for now). Android automotive is cool but not as practical and simple as Tesla OS. In fact it's sometimes quite stupid like when on reverse you either get the 360view or the back camaera but not both (and I dont understad how the car choses what to display). I also miss stuff like having everything on 1 screen and Sentinel mode to name a few. As for the driving dynamics: the feel of the acceleration is not as mad as in a Tesla since you kinda don't get the full power head on. As for the handling: the 300kg+ of extra weight are felt and cornering is clearly inferior. The high seating position is nice but front and, especially back visibility is lacking compared to the M3 (and you can't access the back camera when driving). Suspension might be better and the ground clearance is clearly superior in the P2 though. Some other pros: obviously the hatch opening, the door handles that need no explainations, the full frame doors and the far lower phantome drain. Since the highland offers a bit better in terms of suspension and NVH compared to the previous M3, it might be a better choice. I'll give the P2 a few months.
Buy a Tesla if you are not conditioning to like a particular brand. Not only their cars are improving gradually from the factory but the car you buy will improve dramatically over time with software improvements. AI driving computer in Tesla vehicles is just mind blowing.
In Canada the Polestar only comes in top trim level. 71k CAD. AWD long range Model 3 is 65k. AWD Mach E Premium standard range 64.2k. ID4 AWD and Ioniq 5 AWD haven't been priced yet but I'm expecting these to beat the Mach E and Polestar pricing. So the Polestar isn't really worth the money until they bring lower trim levels. Love the design but it's not in the running for me.
Fair point, and totally understand you perspective. These cars seem to be prices different in different markets. Haven't looked too much at the Mach-E (I will have one next week though). But I know that the M3 and P2 come with almost all the boxes ticked of at their base levels and VW don't. So the there may be a bigger price difference in actuality. Have you looked into that?
@@KrisRifa The ID4 hasn't been priced in Canada and neither has the Mach E although the ID4 undercuts the Mach E across the board in the US to the point that Ford had to immediately reduce the price of the Mach E by 3k dollars. I'm not sure what Polestar is doing with respect to bringing different trim levels. Right now it's fully loaded or nothing and I expect the ID4 to cost 15k dollars less.
@@kevinn1158 It sounds like comparing a Jetta to an S60. Yes, they're both great cars for what they are, but you notice where the money difference is once you check the interior or put them on a lift. I'm also in Canada, and, understandably, Volvo does not offer many models without AWD.
Fin test og sammendrag👍 Som vanlig konstruktiv og informativ. Jeg håper du snart vil utføre en test av nye BMW iX3 nå mens det er kaldt. Stå på videre😊👏
Tech in the Polestar 2 is far from Teslas. Both source maps from Google. The phone app barely works for polestar 2, and this is a trial run for Google'S OS in cars. Right now it feels a lot like the window's phone with the grid tile layout for everything.
Tesla currently uses Google Maps as the base and to pinpoint the points of interests, but the navigation data and routing engine are provided by another software company named MapBox. The P2s OS is Android and runs Google Maps native, so it integration in the infotainment system is amazing. P2 has 13" inch screen with Google maps in front of the driver, the M3 doesn't even have as screen. Google assistant is miles ahead of any other voice command, you can basically ask anything or tell it do everything. You can also integrate it with your home of equipped with Google assistant. I highly disagree that is feels like a Windows phone. I think the infotainment system in the P2 is much better than the M3, but when considering all the tech they are closely matched imo.
P2 won't reach the range of an M3 LR in a long time. Norwegian magazine Motor did a range test of many EVs this summer: Polestar 2: 467 KMs, Tesla Model 3 LR: 655 KMs. Night and day difference.
IMO, interior design and build quality/materials should have been two separate categories. Build quality/materials may be better in the Polestar, but design is better in the Tesla. There's just no excuse for the terrible front layout in the Polestar.... why does the gear shifter take up so much space and get in the way when it could have been used for storage? Why is the center console so large and obtrusive? Why is the second cup holder in the center console storage area? That makes zero sense. Other categories I think you should consider are things like HVAC performance and usability. Screen apps / performance. Navigation. Drivers assistance. And PRICE! If I were making a list of vehicle traits to compare, the first thing on that list would be price. How about dealership / service network?
One thing not covered was after sales service support. Tesla or Polestar service centers may not be convenient for prospective buyers but both feature mobile service teams.
Great video as always. Love the details you show in your review :) Funny story: I was watching tgis video, and suddenly my girlfriend noticed what I was watching. She burst out: HEY! WHAT! That's the guy that hired me at TM 😅 I was not aware I was watching her old boss' videos 😅 Anyway, keep up the great work. Look forward to seeing more videos 😃
I don’t remember if I commented on this video the first time I watched it, but I just watched it again and thank you for putting it together. LOL I currently have both cars on order, but can only keep one of them. I am leaning toward the PoleStar, and the $7500 tax credit definitely factors in. I sure love the Model 3 though....
Also, P2 is rated for towing which is not the case for the TM3 (here in Canada)... and although the P2 doesn't have a ''camp mode'' , Bjorn showed the belt trick in his trip to Artic circle :) If you ever come to Quebec... let us know :)
Not having controls for basic vehicle functions such as wipers and window demister on the steering wheel stalks is a big negative against the tesla. I don't want to mess around in menus when I need my wipers to work *now*.
Come on Chris! The charging speed is the same in your test (I tested the M3 LR even faster but ok) and you give only one point to Polestar? In the beginning you said a point for both, if they are close. Same for the battery size. Its pretty close and you factor in hypothetical future changes like different wheels for polestar but completely ignore that there already are bigger battery packs for the M3 Porformance which Tesla might fit into the LR in furure as well. Thats pretty biased here. In my mind that should be a point for both as well. So you manged this, the only relevant factor for an EV: How fast is it in real world? (Range+Charging Speed) where Tesla wins even according to your own tests, becomes a 2:1 win for polestar... 🤔 Looks of the cars are completely subjective and shouldn't even matter. I'm a little bit disappointed due to your systematic.
I understand what you are saying, and the M3 should maybe have gotten a point regarding battery size. As for charging the P2 is faster, and preheating is coming soon from what we heard from another source just the other day. I am not aware of any planned upgrades to the M3 charging speed, so based upon that I just have to give it to the P2. But yeah, it is still very close though!
@@Zupf1987 Yeah TH-cam usually deletes comments with links... But I watched you video now, very impressive! 😊 My German is a bit rusty, though I do understand a bit! What was the ambient temp when you did this test?
I have not bought an EV yet but have these two cars on my list. It seems you are lucky in Norway with your charging infrastructure. Here in the UK it is an unreliable gamble/shambles from TH-cam reviewer reports to get reliable charging. In my eyes, suffering from theoretical range anxiety this makes Tesla with their Supercharger network the best choice for now if planning long trips here or even in Europe.
This has been improving over lockdown, not amazing but the only provider that's specifically not always reliable is ecotricity until they install their new units
I don't know, I think those TH-camrs are maybe clickbating (*drama*) slightly - I've used both the Ionity network & Instavolt, the latter in particular being really impressive with reliability/contactless/number of stalls and they're only expanding further, sooo
It's disgusting that Polestar hide their heat pump in the 5.000 euro package when the rest of the stuff in the package is pointless... They just force you toward it just because of it while the more useful package is 3.500 euros with all the good things that you actually want to pay for
Again - on charging speed - what matters is Miles or KM added in a given time, not the total time to charge. I want to spend the minimum time and money at fast chargers needed to get to the destination. Given Tesla efficiency, almost certainly it wins here. And as you said, the new car has the changed batteries and you know that Tesla have already sent out 4 optimization updates for them, which appar6 already have this reverting towatd the more normal 250kw max.
"I want to spend the minimum time and money at fast chargers needed to get to the destination." This video is about why I changed my mind, and may not reflect upon what you want 😂 I understand your point, and I would recommend getting a Taycan RWD and it will go almost as far as a Model S LR on a charge, but charge faster due to its higher peak speed and flater charging curve 😊
I guess my point is, of all the things you could always points for, the battery size seems pointless. Lots of cars have a bigger battery then a Tesla LR, but so what? By having a bigger battery they also become less efficient, so maybe the P2 should actually have hasa smaller battery and then it would have been closer to the M3 on efficiency - no? We shouldn't be encouraging manufacturers to put bigger batteries in cars, rather the opposite. The only reason the P2 has a bigger battery is because they had to put it in to get the mileage anything like decent. If they could have saved the money then they would have. But as I said, you could give a point to the P2 for useable space, or for being 'open source' on the infotainment etc, but battery size - this was not worth a point.
@@KrisRifa I'd get a Taycan, but since the are twice the price and not really useful as a family car, then it looses several points out the door ;-) My example is not what I want (actually I almost never Supercharge), but the point is that it's what anyone that does need to stop and charge wants. High power charfi g is expensive here in the UK, and let's face it, still slow compared to refueling ICE. Both drive you to a 'Splash and Dash' strategy, where you (and the electricity vendor) want to spend just a few minutes and move on. If we are going to compare charging speeds (more generally I mean across the industry) then Miles added in 10 mins from 10% SoC seems the only sensible and reasonably consistent measure, and it's the only one that's important. Once we get home to our destination chargers all the cars charge at basically the same speed, and in fact on that measure the P2 looses a point because it will take longer to fill it's bigger battery at 7, 11, 22kw charging.
@@steveholliday1599 Totally get your point, but as I said the point system does not necessarily reflect upon the car like a review. I actually think it is a point worth giving, but we seem to disagree which is fine 😊
@@steveholliday1599 Sure, again totally get what you are saying. If you have browsed my channel I do a lot of standardized test like my 615km Range test agains the clock, where I put all the cars in a chart at the end of the video and you get to see all the juicy data. Here the M3 LR sits a top, but the P2 is not far behind and really puts it into perspective though. I also do a 10-80% SOC Charge speed and charge time test, so I am all for standardized testing that I think the EV industry is lacking, but this video is more of an opinion piece and not meant to be objective. I tried to be clear about that in the video though, but may not have been 😊 Cheers mate!
Lol 20% less range, AP over pro pilot, and a way better screen on the 3, and wait, a large charging network too. But you still pick the polestar? Volvo's do have better seats though and quiet interiors... If like to try one some day. Also how long will the batteries last in each? I would guess the Tesla will be better as it likely has a better bms. That is critical.
I thought the 2121 Model 3’s has 82kwh gross 77kwh nett batteries? Also Tesla will unlock more speed out of the charging when they are happy with the new battery / BMS mix.
@@KrisRifa my friend has a Fremont built 2021 Model 3 LR AWD and the car predicts 306 miles of range at 90% charge this is much more than my 2019 LR AWD car so I think he has the 82kwh battery. I think it depends if you get Panasonic or LG batteries (MIA - MIC) which is worrying for me. The Tesla Supercharger network is a big plus for Tesla too, here in the UK the other charging networks are not filled out enough yet.
@@scottwills4698 True, I've used the Instavolt network and it's quite impressive. That combined with Ionity should be enough for me, I don't do too many long trips.
@@ciaranwebb6871 You can check your trips on “abetterrouteplanner” Instavolt is great but many of their chargers are 50kw only. Ionity are good but expensive, I don’t mind the price as I rarely do long distance journeys and I only put in what I need. I heard someone say they were getting the short range ID3. When I said the range won’t be good enough in the UK for long trips they said they would hire a car using the saving from the battery size. 🤣😂
I like the Polestar and I will definitely check it out if it comes to Australia. However my old Polestar had the floating console and I found it too cramped in the front. Polestar also looks too light on storage. I look forward to the Polestar 3, or better V60 EV.
Hi Kris, great review! Now I wonder as the P2 is also quite close to the e-tron 55 if getting a one year old Audi or the P2 is the better choice. I actually wonder what's your opinion on a used e-tron and maybe issues you think the e-tron has that are worth to check, besides checking the battery via OBD. Thanks 👍
So that still means probably 7-9k€ difference as a used e-tron 55 means no subsidy. Also I'm still wondering if there are any known issues that a used e-tron might have (besides the battery that can be checked via OBD).
what is your opinion having an heat pump in a northern climate where it is cold and snow about 5 months of the year. thanks. I'm considering the P2 but should I wait for the 2022 with the heat pump?
The Polestar 2 offers value for money. But it pretends to be a Scandinavian car, while it is 100% Chinese (Volvo = Polestar = Geely). That's why I would never ever consider buying this car.
I'm buying the p2 but only cos insurance is insane for my partner on the m3. Love both cars. I prefer the interior of the p2 but wasn't impressed with the firm ride. I test drove 20 inch wheels so hoping the 19s are better.
I find it strange that almost every reviewer says that the PS2 ride quality is very stiff and bumpy due to the stiff suspension and here the reviewer is saying the PS2 ride quality is extremely smooth?!
Performance pack cars when adjusted to the stiffest setting is very stiff, but you can also adjust those to be softer. I have that car next week, so we will see how it compares. Haven’t seen any review yet that says normal suspension cars are stiff
Hi Chris, does the Volvo xc40 also get the same Softwareupdate like the PS2, and can Volvo increase the average charging time too? Thanks to your excellent Videos. I like them very much. Kind regards from Austria Harry
That could have been a point, but that differs so much upon county or region. This video was more about why I choose one over the other, so not a very objective look at it. Here in southern Norway (or Eastern depending on how you look at it) we have so many options that Teslas don't have a noticeable advantage. When I had a Model 3 LR for a few weeks it was nice to have the SC option, but I haven't actually thought about it or missed it since I used it. But it still a huge plus. many places around the world though.
@@KrisRifa Could have? :-) The biggest advantage of Tesla in any country where Tesla is officially sold is the supercharging network. 1.Many stations 2.Many stalls at each station (very important) 3. Plug&charge (no rfid needed) 4. Supercharging is not expensive 5. Great integration of superchargers in Tesla in-car route planning. 6. Also Teslas can use any other charger... Just for the record. I don't like T3 because it is sedan and service network is poor. Also it is too expensive where I live - Sweden. I have e-Niro and i3s. Keep up good work and Best regards!
Someone really really wants the Polestar to have the same range as the TM3 LR. Others knows that the TM3 SR+ have longer range than the Polestar (watch Matt and Carwow).
My range tests speak for them selves. PS2 post update 275km vs M3 LR 335km in winter. Matt drove the PS2 Performance which has a 440km WLTP vs 470 WLTP of the non PP. The fact that Matt doesn’t even mention this as well as not even talking about the February update which gives more range and better charging is a little concerning and makes the results hard to compare. Either way, I do my own tests which are much more detailed, varied and standardized than what Mat Watson does regarding EVs when it comes to range and charging. All respect to Mat, I’m a huge fan. But I’ve done extensive testing on both cars here on the channel 😊
Looks like you had decided to have P2 as number 1 before the test. Did you want to apologize for your first impression? Sounds weird! To me P2 looks like a tank compared to the sleekness of the M3.
Yes, from the title and the first 10 seconds of the video that should be quite clear. How do you not understand that? 🙈 Geez people, I explain that I explain why I choose one over the other within the first minute. I have done reviews on both, again something I clearly explain. Apologize for my first impression? Of what car? And from October last year? You sir are not making much sense 🙈
@@KrisRifa no need to be rude! What I mean is what’s the point of the comparison if you have chosen your car before it! I just think you have been biased. And I’m disappointed. But your reply explains it all.
@@atreyuidaho how is he rude? You are not understanding what this video is about, and the title is clear “why I changed my mind” and on top of that you want him to apologize? You are the one who is rude! It is very clear from the first minute of the video that he is explaining why he chooses the one over the other. And then you are telling him that he should be biased? You seem very confused or not that good at English
@@leahkantonreales2518 you don’t understand English! I never said he should apologize but that he felt the need to apologize! His words were not nice and I don’t think I deserve it! What I said was that I don’t understand the comparison with the points if his mind was already made! What’s more, his arguments for the P2 and against the M3 were not really correct. That’s all! And I was disappointed because I usually like his videos!
@@atreyuidaho Sorry but this time you are wrong. You should understand what others replying instead of keeping your guard up... He have ALREADY tested the Polestar and find it better. The video state the conclusion and the comparison explains why!
@@KrisRifa Basically summarizing: 63 kWh frontwheel drive version 224 hp for € 44.900 and and a 78 kwh frontwheel drive 231 hp for € 52.900. Now mind you they are base versions also in interior, lighting so no pilot pack, plus pack etc like in the introduction special we are driving today. I believe not glass roof either. So there will be option packs I am sure. All in all though i dont think the current introduction version is a bad deal considering the 4wd and the options you get with it ! Ow and they quote a (WLTP...) rang of 510 for the 78kwh 2wd version.
All the argumentation about the battery size is wrong for me. during all your speech you say "maybe in 2 years etc." it means you implied that nothing will change with Tesla during this time, which we already know that Tesla will also improved. Also if I remember correctly the model 3 has a 77kwh battery in the long range and a 82kwh one in the performance model, so I don't understand where you are taking this number of 70kwh in your comparaison ? Globally it seems you are trying to convince us that the polestar is better than a model 3 with borderline arguments and that's why it doesn't work, you should be more neutral.
Hei! Hva menner du virkelig om varmepumpe er så nødvendig? Tenker å bestille bilen i disse dagene og helt "basic" bil kunne passe for oss veldig godt (oppdater med 69kw/h) og standard utsytr. Tror ikke at jeg trenger noe mer av utstyr enn det man får som standard. Men er litt usikker om varmepumpe, var veldig dumt at man må betale hele luxuspakke for å få den... Mvh
Not the 2021 Models... me and others have documented this very well. Average speed from 10-80% is 85,6kW. Go watch my video on this as well as Bjørn Nylands video.
You seem to be trying to defend the Polestar throughout the video instead of being impartial. It has less range but not that much less, it has a bigger battery but the efficiency isn’t that bad.
Well this video is about why I choose one car over the other, so it is by definition not objective. It is all based on opinion and as I state in the first minute or so, this does not necessarily reflect upon how I evaluate a car for a review or for purchasing. It is all based on my preferences and what I value 😊
If we're realistic however the differences *are* quite minor. Few extra kilometres here and there, etc - other than the Supercharger network granted - but even that in a few years will become less of a problem as electric cars are being legislated in, at least in Europe. Where there's a great demand, there is money to install chargers.
How on earth you conclude the P2 wins because it has a bigger battery is beyond me. By your own conclusion even with the bigger battery, it will not catch the Tesla miles, BUT that isn't the point. All cars should be aiming for the smallest battery to get the most miles (Tesla wins) for sheer environmental factors, but also weight of the vehicle; then the bigger battery takes longer to charge to full, but at miles/KM per hour of range added (for any given power input and charging curve), the Tesla will win by a large degree. The winner of 'battery size' should be the smallest battery for a given range, not the biggest battery.
A bigger battery is a bigger battery, regardless of the vehicles efficiency. Bigger batteries also have more potential charging speed, which is a thing I didn't even talk about. The P2 can become more and more efficient (and will) with time. But the battery size stays pretty much the same in both cars though. (yes, they both can eat into the buffer). Where the M3 wins is in range and efficiency, and considering that it would make zero sense to give a point to the M3 for having a smaller battery.
Where are the facts? Did you show cabin noise levels to support your claims? Stating a Tesla rides like crap while the P rides like magic carpet, isn’t a fact, it shows your bias (and I’m not saying the P doesn’t ride better, but not that much better). You say the performance is the same, while it isn’t, the Tesla is faster has better slalom times, and can be upgraded even more with a boost! Where are the facts? What about the view out? Low dash in the Tesla and better seating position, where are your facts there? We get it, you prefer the Audi and Polster, and everybother ev over Tesla. Can’t wait for your video explaining how the Audi etron GT actually “feels” faster than the Plaid and Plaid +
From all the videos I have seen its incredible. It actually uses void spaces within the car as extra bass speakers. It also has a full EQ so if you know what you are doing (unlike me) you could fully customise your audio.
It's very good in the PS2. Very good! On par with the B&O on my Audi. The Tesla stero is a disappointment in comparison and gets worse when mixed with so much road and wind noise. The stereo is a huge disappointment in my GFs M3.
@@MrGamingCookie I had a PS2 for half a day to test drive last week, but I have to say I was not impressed by the sound system in the PS2. It was not bad, but nothing to be proud of in any way. Bass was good but the mids were somewhat wobbly. At higher volumes it really start to sound somewhat strained.
Hopefully the P2 will be available soon in Austria and other countries. And also the cheaper RWD version. The P2 with RWD and heatpump should have a range of 500km or more with the same size of the battery.
Would be cool if you and Bjørn could test polestar 2 vs polestar 2 PP, consumption, braking distance down from 100..and everything else :) Like is it worth 5K
@@1auditurbo it uses the same wide tires so consumption should be the same. You can just make the ride harder or softer with øhlins dampners. So that's it more or less. Also most tests done is with the PP pack.
I suppose Kris had an issue because he is using a phone case that increases the distance of the phone to the charging pad. It is advised to keep the phone directly touching without any gap.
Charge my iPhone xr every day, just have to push it to the little raised edge to the right. Before I discovered this I had the same experience as you Kris.
Thank you guys, I am replacing my 2018 XC60 with the 2021 next week and was curious about the wireless charging staff, (I suppose the system this car uses is same as iin the volvos) . Now I learn that locating the phone is important...
Another fanboy trying to hold onto the crown. The rest of the industry has almost caught up, they bring quality and service with it, haven’t you got an appointment in a few weeks for a service repair :( good luck with that
I can see how that came across a bit "only 20% advantage". To be clear, and I think I am in the video. 20% more range is still very good, but the point is that the WLTP numbers of each car would make you believe the difference is bigger, so hence "only 20%". 😊
I would choose the Polestar 2 without any doubt. My parents have a Model 3, every day I am with it, the more I dislike it.
In this category of EV, range is not everything. You must have confort, quality, practicality graound clearance and good desing.
Thanks Kris for bringing us this superb content !!!!
Agree. The quality just isn’t there on the Tesla. I use one every day and I also dislike it more and more. Toyota quality interior at best. Sure it looks all techy and nice at first until you really start to use it and see how cheaply made and unintuitive the whole thing is.
@@andatinyshiver fabric seats are a traditional automaker feature. Pano roofs don't exactly scream Toyota either. And I thought the biggest complaint about model 3 interior was the piano black consoles? The Polestar 2 has piano black buttons! If you're used to all of the buttons of a Toyota though, you'll feel at home in a polestar
@@zenmagnets I'm not sure where you're coming from with this. I neither mentioned fabric seats nor pano roofs. Neither did the person I was commenting to. We were both commenting on our personal experience with Tesla cars, specifically the Model 3. To address fabric seats, I couldn't care less and for me it doesn't have any bearing on how I feel about a car as I've seen some very well done fabric seats. They're not my personal choice, but it's fine. About pano roofs? Sure it's Toyota and just about every other manufacturer out there at this point, at least as an option. Pano sunroof or moonroofs are on Camries, Rav4, and Highlander for example. My Fiat 500L has a gigantic pano roof in which the whole front half of the roof opens. My Volvo XC60 has a pano sunroof as standard. Not sure what your point was about that though since i didn't bring it up in the first place. My comment was based on our experience with a Model 3 that my partner had as well as the Model 3's I drive regularly. Bottom line, the interior and exterior fit and finish is awful for what the car costs. Rattles, creaks, poor upholstery quality, poor plastics quality. Loose panels. I could go on and on. I'm in the SF Bay area and there are a lot of Tesla's here. So I see it regularly. More than I would like for what's supposed to be a more premium car. The car UI itself is poorly designed and gets in the way. Just too many random tech glitches too. If you like Tesla, great. For the reasons above, I don't. What are you on about with the comment about buttons? Toyota's have tons of buttons. I hate that. Both the Tesla and Polestar are pretty button free. The Polestar interior is very similar to my Volvo interior and UI. I can do pretty much everything with my touchscreen center display. There are remarkably few buttons. Unless you count the Play/Pause, Track select, and defrosters. Oh and parking brake . The majority of that can be done without the buttons. To compare a Polestar interior with a Toyota with regards to buttons is kind of silly. Night and day difference. Comparing a midrange Toyota interior to a Model 3 interior based on the qualify of the materials and workmanship is a much better comparison. They're both cheap and look it.
Are you NOOB? Compare PS2 to Model S then.... those two cars are NOT ment for same segment.
Bought the P2. Agree with all the points. I would add the “dog factor” - if you want a hatch then it’s no contest.
Thank you for the fine conclusion. Someone said, that TM3 is the better EV while Polestar 2 is the better car. I would prefer also the Polestar over the Tasla. Or to be precise, I preferred. I have one and I am so happy with it. The Polestar 2 is such a great car. Not to forget the practicality with the trunk.
Glad polestar is still improving. Such a nice Car
Looking at the downvotes already tells you the Musk fanboys are already raging at the keyboard.
After 1 week, I clicked again this vid to check one thing. And I am impressed how many downvotes there are in it.
The thumbs up is used if you liked the video. Not the car. So sad people can not realize that :(
I am an early believer ! I had one of the first P2 in Belgium . I had many problems , converters, high voltage, dempers, problems with 4G ,...but Polestars service was great , pic and delivery , extra year warranty and € 500 Plugsurfing ! After all my Polestar is a fantastic car and I would by iT again ! Thanks for your review .
Hi ! Do you know if is there some Polestar group on Telegram ? I am looking for owners experiences. THanks :=)
Super intriguing to see if Polestar can take it a couple notches more the next upgrade.
The drive experience they already have pocketed. Very nice, comfy and quiet to drive, and the infotainement are no1, in my humble opinion.
Thanks for your work, time and effort Kris. 👍😎👍
Thanks 😊
I agree that polestar is a rightly competitor to M3. The one you like and in the end buy is just a question of personal taste and preferences. In that way there is no winer! Big like for the video! 👍
This. I ordered a Polestar, but at least 75% of that decision was based on subjective points (Driving feel, aesthetics, etc). At the end of the day the cars are close enough that you're not in a bad place choosing either.
Which is 100% good for the consumer. The EV market is getting increasingly competitive which I see as a pure win.
another great video !! thank you Kris (my P2 will be delivered next Tuesday!)
Thanks, and congrats!
Do you know if is there some Polestar group in Telegram ? I am looking for some info. Thanks :=)
I've been a Tesla fan from day one (that's 2013 in NL). Now we have both a '18 model s 75D and a '19 model 3 LR DM. The only reason the model 3 is staying is because of the summer trips to spain and France with a trailer. Tesla is the only option with viable charging options via the Paris/A75 corridor to Spain. Ionity, Total and Shell are coming but there are large gaps still (Lille-Paris, no HPC around Orleans). Just test drove a ID4. Perfect car (aside from a few GUI mishaps). Miles better in interior space than the model 3. I will test drive the Polestar 2 and also the electric Volvo XC 40 later this month. I can only assume that those will also be better in all aspects except performance on long trips without propper HPC coverage. Once that is fixed -> Open the flood gates for the ID4's and Polestars of this world :-). I still highly respect Tesla for the disruption they've caused. But if other products are better, I'm gone :-)
It's completly legitimate your point of view. I am 23, and I've been a tesla fanboy until summer 2020. When I tested a Model 3, e-208, Model S MY19, e-2008 and VW ID.3.
Then I realize that I was defending a brand that has no idea how to build vehicles. I agree is the best EV, but no the best vehicle.
I have ordered a Polestar 2, the range wasn't an factor since the Polestar has more than enough and I'll be charging at home/work. For me the styling of the Model 3 was a deal-breaker, the interior quality was another deal-breaker and the interior styling / lack of instrument display a third deal-breaker. The stories of bits falling off, poor paint and terrible service didn't help either. To me the Model 3 is an incredible drive-train in a dog of a car. Looking forward to the Polestar 2 with 19" wheels, real leather and some comfort.
Man I am glad you ordered the Polestar 2. My parents have a Model 3. And I am not happy with it. BTW my parents love it XD.
Do you know some Polestar group in Telegram ? I am looking for some informations :)
THanks ;)
I'm glad you purchased the polstar 2, otherwise I would need to wait even longer for my model 3 to arrive.😁
@@RemoteSpeed007 Yes, you can fit in with all the thousands of others Tesla drivers driving the same boring thing!
@@mongoose000 Like I said glad you feel differently, now we have one less Tesla on the road or on order one less at the superchargers - good for us Tesla owners - thanx.👍
@@RemoteSpeed007 And vice versa!
Not saying model 3 is perfect, but the interior is in my opinion much more clever than polestar. PS2 is small inside. That center console is so high it’s almost like a divider wall between the front seats! And it is either full of air or batteries, at least I couldn’t find much storage inside. And the gear knob is wasting space on top as well. Tesla feels airy with room to breathe and lots of storage in the car.
The window lift buttons are so far back I had to pull my elbow back like a T-Rex to operate the buttons.
And it’s heavy. Heavier than an I-Pace! In a straight line I didn’t notice it as it has plenty of power, and it didn’t lean in corners, but that weight is scary. In several roundabouts I got nervous about the handling as it would slide. Of course that meant I was driving too fast for it’s weight. The T3 is much lighter. PS2 springs were not that comfy at all over bumps etc. perhaps better than T3, but not comfortable like my old 3 series bmw.
And back seat - being just 180cm my head hits the ceiling on the side and I’ve got only one finger width above me head. Notice Chris sits in the middle seat. I could not bring adults in the back seat on this.
The driver screen is good but the center screen feels like going back to the very first iPad 1 with huge black frame. And many functions are not available during driving. Nanny mode.
These are important points, not nitpicking.
Great video. If I think about it, you hit the nail on the head.
Glad to hear that the Polestar 2 is a good Model 3 alternative. The road noise issue (at motorway speeds) is the one thing I'd like to improve about my 2019 Model 3.
Like you say, we all value things differently. My personal scoring system would break down Autopilot, NoA, TACC, FSD (future), summon into individual features as well as tech: browser, maps, games, Netflix, etc. would all be scored individually for me.
Really enjoying the series of reviews you're doing Kris, keep it up!
Judging by how Tesla is handling battery software updates (see the 2021 Model 3 SR+), the LG pack 2021 cars will most likely be able to get at least 200kW by the end of the year. That + the better efficiency, shows that Polestar can try to catch up, but Tesla is still still a few steps ahead.
That would be awesome if they up the speed! Seems like Polestar is taking the Model 3 serious, so hopefully that will push them to improve the P2 more and more 😊
@@KrisRifa good car companies making better and better cars will only help to push each other to innovate and push EV tech to new heights. Competition is needed.
Bought tesla3 🙂
@Jason show them
It is nice to see why you prefer the polestar 2 above the model 3. I would personally give 1 or 2 more points to the Tesla, but in the end I ordered a polestar 2! Hopefully the updates keep on coming and make the car even better! Nice video, thumbs up 👍
I live in Australia and most cities are so far apart from each other that neither car will make the trip in one go anyway, so it almost nullifies the win for M3's range. Even with M3's greater range, it will still have to recharge halfway through the trip just like the P2. It will just have the advantage of not having to recharge for as long and given that half an hour is enough for a lunch break, I'm going to take just as long to order and eat my lunch whether I'm driving a Tesla or a Polestar. But if I do finish my lunch early, M3 has a few minutes head start which isn't much in the end. I'm looking to order a Polestar next year when they come out in Aus!!
Have a 2020 model 3 longrange and wen to try out he polestar 2.it felt a littlebit slower and not much more comfortable in the handling and suspension. However it is more quite in the cabin. But what bothered med the most is the center console which is very large and eats into my right knee.
I waited for 2 years for the Model 3, I put my deposit down the first day. Then when I sat in the first model I was unimpressed. Mainly because my wife drives a Volvo v60r with the polestar upgrade. the interior quality of the model 3 just felt more like a base model car. I know model 3 owners will say that they love how minimal it is and yes, that is true, but I know that solid volvo feeling and how great seats really feel and that solid feeling that you just know your car will always stay in one piece. I did wind up buying a Model S, because I just liked the air suspension and sunroof and auto liftback and well the alcantara and the Model S felt better.. still not as good as the volvo, Now I have an S p85 and the Volvo v60r, if we were to trade to just one car, it would be the polestar2 and you need to add one more thing.. Service. Tesla service has improved, but the personal level of service that I get at Volvo cannot be beat, I have had a few Volvos and I know my service tech Judd. he knows my car. we have had very little go wrong but when something needs attention, they are right on it.. I get a loaner vehicle and Volvo gives a brand new car, so that they can try to sell me one of course, but that wagon is so good. On long trips with the family, we don't take the S, we take the Volvo, because of the seats and it's a nice cruiser. Tesla fanbois will be angry with your decision, but it shows that it's not really all about that LONG range, that may not even be necessary or the faster charging, and if those 2 things are that important , wha does Tesla have over another company? I do think that the new Model S and X will start to rival the luxury cars, I can't wait to see them. For now, I will stick to my cars, as they work and it is so much cheaper to just stay in the car you have
100% Agree !!
If you can afford a Model S then you should go for the Mercedes EQS, buying a polestar 2 would be downgrading.
Liked the review and comparison, Kris!. Here in UK Tesla has to win as shockingly bad charging infrastructure for BEV cars at the moment - most are 50Kw max and most of these seem to have faults of some kind
It's kind of weird the UK isn't better with the charging networks. You've had tremendous development with electricity generation, one would think that EVs should fit well with that mindset.
Thanks mate! I follow a few UK TH-camrs and have been hearing this lately. Really hope they ramp up the speed on 150kW+ HPC chargers over there!
Thanks for the Video Kris. I agree with your results. Only a minority needs the long range ability of a Tesla. But most will enjoy the quality in all aspects of the polstar. Too many adverts during the video though.
Some people may need or just prefer the longer range of the M3, and that is fine. I can totally respect that, but it is sad to see that Tesla people cant't seem to see past range and acceleration. IMO there is so much more to a car than numbers on paper!
Polestar 2 will come with the same size battery and rear wheel drive configuration and a heat pump, that's a real long range combo, who needs a 400+ HP in a car driven on European roads with speed limits all over the place.
100% Agree. I also wanna see some RWD with heat pump on Polestar 2. And my other wish, is if they could fit a 18 '' wheel. To have more confort, and to be more efficient :)
Great review Kris, thanks.
There's one thing I think that might need to be added, especially outside Norway and that's the charging network. Nothing comes even close to the SuC network in terms of usability, reliability, price and comfort. Doing a long range trip on a non-Tesla in Europe, maybe crossing 3-4 countries can be a nightmare or very expensive. Disclaimer: Not a Tesla driver (yet?)
ehh maybe but id say people very rarely do that, and give it a year (basically till pandemic is over) and the difference might not be so stark.
In Canada it's the oposit the supercharger network is abismal. In my province there's only 126 tesla stales on 12 sites and more than 600 public chargers in more than 400 sites
@Jadzia Dax, this might be true in some parts of Europe, but not true in The Netherlands (Fastned is king), Germany (Ionity and Aral), Luxembourg (Superchargy) and France (Ionity) ... all those combined do have more locations with fastchargers thqn en Tesla. Then there is Total, Q8 and Shell that is upcoming. The SuC USP is not as strong as it used to be.
@@philipclaeys6920 That's true, but you need a large number of charging card, have to pay insane prices (50-80ct/kWh) unless you pay a monthly fee or have some other 'mitigating circumstances', and way more aborted charging processes than you'd like.
@@jadziadax8658 that is also not always true, I drive an EQC and it comes with Mercedes Me Charge which gives access to approx. 95% of all chargingstations, maybe other brands offer similar charge options. And even with a Tesla you might need an additional card, the nearest SuC from my place is about 50 km ... there are alot of SuCs but not always on the road you're driving ... it might happen an other chargingstation is more practical (Avoidance of detours and/or avoidance of too busy SuC.)
I would add even one more point to Polestar for the massive boot opening practicality :)
And headlights
Wait, so both cars charge in the same time and tesla with LG batteries will charge faster in the future so the point goes to polestar?
lol biased review. Disliked and moved on and soon as i saw that.
@@AlwaysLoudAA Teslafanboy much?
Tesla fanboys are downvoting a video that does not say Tesla is the best again! Come on people, can we combat this and give this video a thumbs up? 👍😊👍
Too match problems
In the UK, the Heat Pump is only available as part of an expensive option pack. I think it should be standard and hopefully that will be the case soon. Otherwise, I like the Polestar more overall. The problem for me is that I can't test drive one unless I travel a long way to a test drive centre and there is a Tesla dealership in my town. Not ideal for Polestar.
Etron driver here. I don’t think the gap is as big as you have made it. I know it’s your opinion but I think the final score is much closer. You may have a bias to this car from being previously a Volvo driver - I have previously owned a Volvo and have to admit it was one of the best cars I’ve ever owned. The seats in particular are great and I guess the polestar seats are similar. Good review if not dubious awarding of points 😀
Hi Kris, thanks for tour video, Everything is clear and detailed , Do you think you'll be able to test the bmw ix3 soon?
Not many car testers,are talking about the cost of Fast Charging your car.If you have to sit in line for 30min before plugging in,does it really matter if it charges 7min.faster?
Would be interesting to see a race between Polestar 2 and M3 ,with time and cost .I think the cost of charging at a 150kw charger in Norway is about 5Nok..?Tesla charges 2,57Nok.Its almost half price ,and if you use a lot of SC,that will be a significant cost over many years.
That would be an interesting test!
Circle K are 4,9nok/kWh. But Mer, Fortum, BKK etc are around 2,5-2,95nok/kWh. You also get 10-20% discount if you charge for a certain amount at those. Ionity with E-Tron card is the cheapest at 1,85nok/kWh 😊
Thanks, great review.
Wow I really like your reviews... Good job! Your opinion is not driving your evaluation and you leave space for personal criterias... Thanks.. I in the market for a new EV in Canada... We are not as lucky as you in Norway, availability is an issue... But aiming toward the Polestar and waiting time seams not to bat.. My wife ad a Leaf SL 2014, we changed for the Bolt 2019 now she has the Bolt EV 2022... I use to own a eGolf 2017, sold it to my son... I also a lucky owner of a Harley Livewire.. :) Thanks again for you good job!
I've had 2 Model 3 and wanted to change (I wasn't sold on the Highland) so I bought a Polestar 2 awd since I found a great deal. I have it for a couple of weeks and I must say that I kinda miss my Tesla.
Don't get me wrong: the P2 is great but it's not hassle free: I still haven't found a way to get the digital key and all of sudden, I lost all Internet connectivity (customer support didn't quite help for now). Android automotive is cool but not as practical and simple as Tesla OS. In fact it's sometimes quite stupid like when on reverse you either get the 360view or the back camaera but not both (and I dont understad how the car choses what to display). I also miss stuff like having everything on 1 screen and Sentinel mode to name a few.
As for the driving dynamics: the feel of the acceleration is not as mad as in a Tesla since you kinda don't get the full power head on. As for the handling: the 300kg+ of extra weight are felt and cornering is clearly inferior.
The high seating position is nice but front and, especially back visibility is lacking compared to the M3 (and you can't access the back camera when driving).
Suspension might be better and the ground clearance is clearly superior in the P2 though.
Some other pros: obviously the hatch opening, the door handles that need no explainations, the full frame doors and the far lower phantome drain.
Since the highland offers a bit better in terms of suspension and NVH compared to the previous M3, it might be a better choice. I'll give the P2 a few months.
Buy a Tesla if you are not conditioning to like a particular brand. Not only their cars are improving gradually from the factory but the car you buy will improve dramatically over time with software improvements. AI driving computer in Tesla vehicles is just mind blowing.
In Canada the Polestar only comes in top trim level. 71k CAD. AWD long range Model 3 is 65k. AWD Mach E Premium standard range 64.2k. ID4 AWD and Ioniq 5 AWD haven't been priced yet but I'm expecting these to beat the Mach E and Polestar pricing. So the Polestar isn't really worth the money until they bring lower trim levels. Love the design but it's not in the running for me.
Fair point, and totally understand you perspective. These cars seem to be prices different in different markets. Haven't looked too much at the Mach-E (I will have one next week though). But I know that the M3 and P2 come with almost all the boxes ticked of at their base levels and VW don't. So the there may be a bigger price difference in actuality. Have you looked into that?
@@KrisRifa The ID4 hasn't been priced in Canada and neither has the Mach E although the ID4 undercuts the Mach E across the board in the US to the point that Ford had to immediately reduce the price of the Mach E by 3k dollars. I'm not sure what Polestar is doing with respect to bringing different trim levels. Right now it's fully loaded or nothing and I expect the ID4 to cost 15k dollars less.
@@kevinn1158 It sounds like comparing a Jetta to an S60. Yes, they're both great cars for what they are, but you notice where the money difference is once you check the interior or put them on a lift. I'm also in Canada, and, understandably, Volvo does not offer many models without AWD.
Fin test og sammendrag👍 Som vanlig konstruktiv og informativ. Jeg håper du snart vil utføre en test av nye BMW iX3 nå mens det er kaldt. Stå på videre😊👏
Tech in the Polestar 2 is far from Teslas. Both source maps from Google. The phone app barely works for polestar 2, and this is a trial run for Google'S OS in cars. Right now it feels a lot like the window's phone with the grid tile layout for everything.
Tesla currently uses Google Maps as the base and to pinpoint the points of interests, but the navigation data and routing engine are provided by another software company named MapBox. The P2s OS is Android and runs Google Maps native, so it integration in the infotainment system is amazing. P2 has 13" inch screen with Google maps in front of the driver, the M3 doesn't even have as screen. Google assistant is miles ahead of any other voice command, you can basically ask anything or tell it do everything. You can also integrate it with your home of equipped with Google assistant. I highly disagree that is feels like a Windows phone. I think the infotainment system in the P2 is much better than the M3, but when considering all the tech they are closely matched imo.
P2 won't reach the range of an M3 LR in a long time. Norwegian magazine Motor did a range test of many EVs this summer: Polestar 2: 467 KMs, Tesla Model 3 LR: 655 KMs. Night and day difference.
How about this angle: when do you think Model 3 can be as quiet as PS2? Night and day difference.
I think it would be nice if you had tabs in your video for each topic
IMO, interior design and build quality/materials should have been two separate categories. Build quality/materials may be better in the Polestar, but design is better in the Tesla. There's just no excuse for the terrible front layout in the Polestar.... why does the gear shifter take up so much space and get in the way when it could have been used for storage? Why is the center console so large and obtrusive? Why is the second cup holder in the center console storage area? That makes zero sense. Other categories I think you should consider are things like HVAC performance and usability. Screen apps / performance. Navigation. Drivers assistance. And PRICE! If I were making a list of vehicle traits to compare, the first thing on that list would be price. How about dealership / service network?
Interior and front cabin/practicality are separate categories.
One thing not covered was after sales service support. Tesla or Polestar service centers may not be convenient for prospective buyers but both feature mobile service teams.
Great video as always. Love the details you show in your review :)
Funny story: I was watching tgis video, and suddenly my girlfriend noticed what I was watching. She burst out: HEY! WHAT! That's the guy that hired me at TM 😅
I was not aware I was watching her old boss' videos 😅
Anyway, keep up the great work. Look forward to seeing more videos 😃
Haha! Awesome! What is you girlfriends name? 😊
@@KrisRifa Maria :)
Awesome! Please send my regards 😊
I don’t remember if I commented on this video the first time I watched it, but I just watched it again and thank you for putting it together. LOL I currently have both cars on order, but can only keep one of them. I am leaning toward the PoleStar, and the $7500 tax credit definitely factors in. I sure love the Model 3 though....
Also, P2 is rated for towing which is not the case for the TM3 (here in Canada)... and although the P2 doesn't have a ''camp mode'' , Bjorn showed the belt trick in his trip to Artic circle :)
If you ever come to Quebec... let us know :)
Not having controls for basic vehicle functions such as wipers and window demister on the steering wheel stalks is a big negative against the tesla. I don't want to mess around in menus when I need my wipers to work *now*.
Come on Chris! The charging speed is the same in your test (I tested the M3 LR even faster but ok) and you give only one point to Polestar? In the beginning you said a point for both, if they are close. Same for the battery size. Its pretty close and you factor in hypothetical future changes like different wheels for polestar but completely ignore that there already are bigger battery packs for the M3 Porformance which Tesla might fit into the LR in furure as well. Thats pretty biased here. In my mind that should be a point for both as well.
So you manged this, the only relevant factor for an EV: How fast is it in real world? (Range+Charging Speed) where Tesla wins even according to your own tests, becomes a 2:1 win for polestar... 🤔
Looks of the cars are completely subjective and shouldn't even matter. I'm a little bit disappointed due to your systematic.
I understand what you are saying, and the M3 should maybe have gotten a point regarding battery size. As for charging the P2 is faster, and preheating is coming soon from what we heard from another source just the other day. I am not aware of any planned upgrades to the M3 charging speed, so based upon that I just have to give it to the P2. But yeah, it is still very close though!
@@KrisRifa Who is deleting my comment with the link to my charging video? Is that TH-cam automatically because of the link?
@@KrisRifa did you see my Video about charging my car with Panasonic Battery Pack in under 28 Minutes?
@@Zupf1987 Yeah TH-cam usually deletes comments with links... But I watched you video now, very impressive! 😊 My German is a bit rusty, though I do understand a bit! What was the ambient temp when you did this test?
@@KrisRifa 5-7°C after a longer Trip.
I have not bought an EV yet but have these two cars on my list. It seems you are lucky in Norway with your charging infrastructure. Here in the UK it is an unreliable gamble/shambles from TH-cam reviewer reports to get reliable charging. In my eyes, suffering from theoretical range anxiety this makes Tesla with their Supercharger network the best choice for now if planning long trips here or even in Europe.
This has been improving over lockdown, not amazing but the only provider that's specifically not always reliable is ecotricity until they install their new units
Zap map and plugshare are very helpful
I don't know, I think those TH-camrs are maybe clickbating (*drama*) slightly - I've used both the Ionity network & Instavolt, the latter in particular being really impressive with reliability/contactless/number of stalls and they're only expanding further, sooo
@@ciaranwebb6871 shell is also getting around to putting jn multi charger locations and gridserve is also a good sigb
Most important: the car has a norwegian plate on 🇧🇻👍
Does the ride comfort of this regular polestar 2 differ significantly over polestar 2 performance?
Dude try and not repeat yourself again and again and again and again
It's disgusting that Polestar hide their heat pump in the 5.000 euro package when the rest of the stuff in the package is pointless... They just force you toward it just because of it while the more useful package is 3.500 euros with all the good things that you actually want to pay for
Again - on charging speed - what matters is Miles or KM added in a given time, not the total time to charge. I want to spend the minimum time and money at fast chargers needed to get to the destination. Given Tesla efficiency, almost certainly it wins here. And as you said, the new car has the changed batteries and you know that Tesla have already sent out 4 optimization updates for them, which appar6 already have this reverting towatd the more normal 250kw max.
"I want to spend the minimum time and money at fast chargers needed to get to the destination." This video is about why I changed my mind, and may not reflect upon what you want 😂 I understand your point, and I would recommend getting a Taycan RWD and it will go almost as far as a Model S LR on a charge, but charge faster due to its higher peak speed and flater charging curve 😊
I guess my point is, of all the things you could always points for, the battery size seems pointless. Lots of cars have a bigger battery then a Tesla LR, but so what? By having a bigger battery they also become less efficient, so maybe the P2 should actually have hasa smaller battery and then it would have been closer to the M3 on efficiency - no? We shouldn't be encouraging manufacturers to put bigger batteries in cars, rather the opposite. The only reason the P2 has a bigger battery is because they had to put it in to get the mileage anything like decent. If they could have saved the money then they would have. But as I said, you could give a point to the P2 for useable space, or for being 'open source' on the infotainment etc, but battery size - this was not worth a point.
@@KrisRifa I'd get a Taycan, but since the are twice the price and not really useful as a family car, then it looses several points out the door ;-)
My example is not what I want (actually I almost never Supercharge), but the point is that it's what anyone that does need to stop and charge wants. High power charfi g is expensive here in the UK, and let's face it, still slow compared to refueling ICE. Both drive you to a 'Splash and Dash' strategy, where you (and the electricity vendor) want to spend just a few minutes and move on. If we are going to compare charging speeds (more generally I mean across the industry) then Miles added in 10 mins from 10% SoC seems the only sensible and reasonably consistent measure, and it's the only one that's important. Once we get home to our destination chargers all the cars charge at basically the same speed, and in fact on that measure the P2 looses a point because it will take longer to fill it's bigger battery at 7, 11, 22kw charging.
@@steveholliday1599 Totally get your point, but as I said the point system does not necessarily reflect upon the car like a review. I actually think it is a point worth giving, but we seem to disagree which is fine 😊
@@steveholliday1599 Sure, again totally get what you are saying. If you have browsed my channel I do a lot of standardized test like my 615km Range test agains the clock, where I put all the cars in a chart at the end of the video and you get to see all the juicy data. Here the M3 LR sits a top, but the P2 is not far behind and really puts it into perspective though. I also do a 10-80% SOC Charge speed and charge time test, so I am all for standardized testing that I think the EV industry is lacking, but this video is more of an opinion piece and not meant to be objective. I tried to be clear about that in the video though, but may not have been 😊 Cheers mate!
‘Best all rounder’ - considering the pros and cons of each car, the Polestar 2 is the most versatile for most people’s needs.
Lol 20% less range, AP over pro pilot, and a way better screen on the 3, and wait, a large charging network too. But you still pick the polestar? Volvo's do have better seats though and quiet interiors... If like to try one some day. Also how long will the batteries last in each? I would guess the Tesla will be better as it likely has a better bms. That is critical.
That's how bad the rest of the car is.
I thought the 2121 Model 3’s has 82kwh gross 77kwh nett batteries? Also Tesla will unlock more speed out of the charging when they are happy with the new battery / BMS mix.
2021 LR net 70kWh, 2021 Performance net 76kWh. And yes they could of course unlock more 😊
@@KrisRifa my friend has a Fremont built 2021 Model 3 LR AWD and the car predicts 306 miles of range at 90% charge this is much more than my 2019 LR AWD car so I think he has the 82kwh battery. I think it depends if you get Panasonic or LG batteries (MIA - MIC) which is worrying for me. The Tesla Supercharger network is a big plus for Tesla too, here in the UK the other charging networks are not filled out enough yet.
@@scottwills4698 True, I've used the Instavolt network and it's quite impressive. That combined with Ionity should be enough for me, I don't do too many long trips.
@@KrisRifa Kris, don’t give out wrong information. The 2021 performance has 82🔋. 75KWh usable. If you don’t know go look at Björns Chanel.
@@ciaranwebb6871 You can check your trips on “abetterrouteplanner” Instavolt is great but many of their chargers are 50kw only. Ionity are good but expensive, I don’t mind the price as I rarely do long distance journeys and I only put in what I need. I heard someone say they were getting the short range ID3. When I said the range won’t be good enough in the UK for long trips they said they would hire a car using the saving from the battery size. 🤣😂
Pheeew, thanks for the confirmation, i‘m getting my ps2 in 2 weeks!
What you want to know is at 21:10 secs.
I like the Polestar and I will definitely check it out if it comes to Australia. However my old Polestar had the floating console and I found it too cramped in the front. Polestar also looks too light on storage. I look forward to the Polestar 3, or better V60 EV.
What do you need to store?
Hi Kris, great review!
Now I wonder as the P2 is also quite close to the e-tron 55 if getting a one year old Audi or the P2 is the better choice. I actually wonder what's your opinion on a used e-tron and maybe issues you think the e-tron has that are worth to check, besides checking the battery via OBD. Thanks 👍
E-tron is on another level. Airsuspension, really quiet, fantastic charging and great quality. I would pick a slightly used e-tron for sure.
@@hampuskallin3565 Is the Etron a bigger car?
@@almac9203 Yes it's almost 40cm longer. And bigger boot, more space inside the cabin.
@@hampuskallin3565 thanks!
So that still means probably 7-9k€ difference as a used e-tron 55 means no subsidy. Also I'm still wondering if there are any known issues that a used e-tron might have (besides the battery that can be checked via OBD).
what is your opinion having an heat pump in a northern climate where it is cold and snow about 5 months of the year. thanks. I'm considering the P2 but should I wait for the 2022 with the heat pump?
You have heat pump with the plus pack.
The Polestar 2 offers value for money. But it pretends to be a Scandinavian car, while it is 100% Chinese (Volvo = Polestar = Geely). That's why I would never ever consider buying this car.
So. Dual motor + Pilot + Plus pack is 11k more expensive than the Tesla Model 3 Performance... (Australia)
I'm buying the p2 but only cos insurance is insane for my partner on the m3. Love both cars. I prefer the interior of the p2 but wasn't impressed with the firm ride. I test drove 20 inch wheels so hoping the 19s are better.
I find it strange that almost every reviewer says that the PS2 ride quality is very stiff and bumpy due to the stiff suspension and here the reviewer is saying the PS2 ride quality is extremely smooth?!
Performance pack cars when adjusted to the stiffest setting is very stiff, but you can also adjust those to be softer. I have that car next week, so we will see how it compares. Haven’t seen any review yet that says normal suspension cars are stiff
Tesla needs a new suspension system; a single cast might diminish the road noise but there is a need for adaptive or air suspensions
Hi Chris, does the Volvo xc40 also get the same Softwareupdate like the PS2, and can Volvo increase the average charging time too? Thanks to your excellent Videos. I like them very much. Kind regards from Austria Harry
Can other people confirm the wireless charger is really so weak? Volvo should be replacing these for free under warranty if this is the case!
I would guess the center console is so big to store the Mid air bags.
Do you have a point about the ease of charging and the charging infrastructure?
That could have been a point, but that differs so much upon county or region. This video was more about why I choose one over the other, so not a very objective look at it. Here in southern Norway (or Eastern depending on how you look at it) we have so many options that Teslas don't have a noticeable advantage. When I had a Model 3 LR for a few weeks it was nice to have the SC option, but I haven't actually thought about it or missed it since I used it. But it still a huge plus. many places around the world though.
@@KrisRifa Could have? :-) The biggest advantage of Tesla in any country where Tesla is officially sold is the supercharging network. 1.Many stations 2.Many stalls at each station (very important) 3. Plug&charge (no rfid needed) 4. Supercharging is not expensive 5. Great integration of superchargers in Tesla in-car route planning.
6. Also Teslas can use any other charger...
Just for the record. I don't like T3 because it is sedan and service network is poor. Also it is too expensive where I live - Sweden.
I have e-Niro and i3s.
Keep up good work and Best regards!
Hi! Does the standard 2022 model of the Polestar 2 still get these updates?
For some reason the Polestar is not available in Ireland, I can't buy one, I can buy a Tesla but would prefer the Polestar
Here in Spain we can not buy the Polestar :(
Good video spoilt by numerous adverts!
Someone really really wants the Polestar to have the same range as the TM3 LR. Others knows that the TM3 SR+ have longer range than the Polestar (watch Matt and Carwow).
My range tests speak for them selves. PS2 post update 275km vs M3 LR 335km in winter. Matt drove the PS2 Performance which has a 440km WLTP vs 470 WLTP of the non PP. The fact that Matt doesn’t even mention this as well as not even talking about the February update which gives more range and better charging is a little concerning and makes the results hard to compare. Either way, I do my own tests which are much more detailed, varied and standardized than what Mat Watson does regarding EVs when it comes to range and charging. All respect to Mat, I’m a huge fan. But I’ve done extensive testing on both cars here on the channel 😊
Looks like you had decided to have P2 as number 1 before the test. Did you want to apologize for your first impression? Sounds weird! To me P2 looks like a tank compared to the sleekness of the M3.
Yes, from the title and the first 10 seconds of the video that should be quite clear. How do you not understand that? 🙈 Geez people, I explain that I explain why I choose one over the other within the first minute. I have done reviews on both, again something I clearly explain. Apologize for my first impression? Of what car? And from October last year? You sir are not making much sense 🙈
@@KrisRifa no need to be rude! What I mean is what’s the point of the comparison if you have chosen your car before it! I just think you have been biased. And I’m disappointed. But your reply explains it all.
@@atreyuidaho how is he rude? You are not understanding what this video is about, and the title is clear “why I changed my mind” and on top of that you want him to apologize? You are the one who is rude! It is very clear from the first minute of the video that he is explaining why he chooses the one over the other. And then you are telling him that he should be biased? You seem very confused or not that good at English
@@leahkantonreales2518 you don’t understand English! I never said he should apologize but that he felt the need to apologize! His words were not nice and I don’t think I deserve it! What I said was that I don’t understand the comparison with the points if his mind was already made! What’s more, his arguments for the P2 and against the M3 were not really correct. That’s all! And I was disappointed because I usually like his videos!
@@atreyuidaho Sorry but this time you are wrong. You should understand what others replying instead of keeping your guard up... He have ALREADY tested the Polestar and find it better. The video state the conclusion and the comparison explains why!
As an Etron owner, can you speak to the PS2 vs Etron? We're trying to debate between both.
How about a 2wd version of the polestar 2? Do you know if we can expect that?
I think they may announce that sooner than we think!
They allready have anounced a cheaper 2wd version with the same battery capacity and a 2wd version with a lower battery capacity
@@mrbambix link please?
Weird seems my reply goes away after i post it ?
@@KrisRifa Basically summarizing: 63 kWh frontwheel drive version 224 hp for € 44.900 and and a 78 kwh frontwheel drive 231 hp for € 52.900. Now mind you they are base versions also in interior, lighting so no pilot pack, plus pack etc like in the introduction special we are driving today. I believe not glass roof either. So there will be option packs I am sure. All in all though i dont think the current introduction version is a bad deal considering the 4wd and the options you get with it ! Ow and they quote a (WLTP...) rang of 510 for the 78kwh 2wd version.
Behave 46 grand for a converted ice car.
nice vid
Thanks 😊
Hope polestar make faster car's soon. P1 and P2 are too slow... I want fast cars. only tesla taycan atm
The ideal to go shopping....
All the argumentation about the battery size is wrong for me. during all your speech you say "maybe in 2 years etc." it means you implied that nothing will change with Tesla during this time, which we already know that Tesla will also improved. Also if I remember correctly the model 3 has a 77kwh battery in the long range and a 82kwh one in the performance model, so I don't understand where you are taking this number of 70kwh in your comparaison ? Globally it seems you are trying to convince us that the polestar is better than a model 3 with borderline arguments and that's why it doesn't work, you should be more neutral.
Remember; Kris is a Volvo guy😉😂
Love a car with a dashboard...
Hei! Hva menner du virkelig om varmepumpe er så nødvendig? Tenker å bestille bilen i disse dagene og helt "basic" bil kunne passe for oss veldig godt (oppdater med 69kw/h) og standard utsytr. Tror ikke at jeg trenger noe mer av utstyr enn det man får som standard. Men er litt usikker om varmepumpe, var veldig dumt at man må betale hele luxuspakke for å få den...
Mvh
Polestar en Apple iPhone 12 wireless charger don’t work. No problems with my S10 en IPhone X
Will you change your mind again in a month's time or are you still procrastinating over it?
Asking for a friend or maybe not!
It will be interesting to see when the aerodynamics software update for the P2 arrives. Until then you shouldn’t hope for any bigger improvements.
basically you put the p2 at twice as good as the m3. nope
no way that polestar 2 gets the point for charging speed. TM3 can charge at up to 250kw.
Not the 2021 Models... me and others have documented this very well. Average speed from 10-80% is 85,6kW. Go watch my video on this as well as Bjørn Nylands video.
Only a very short peak...also shown on Fastned...they have charging curves for nearly any ev on their sides
You seem to be trying to defend the Polestar throughout the video instead of being impartial. It has less range but not that much less, it has a bigger battery but the efficiency isn’t that bad.
Well this video is about why I choose one car over the other, so it is by definition not objective. It is all based on opinion and as I state in the first minute or so, this does not necessarily reflect upon how I evaluate a car for a review or for purchasing. It is all based on my preferences and what I value 😊
If we're realistic however the differences *are* quite minor. Few extra kilometres here and there, etc - other than the Supercharger network granted - but even that in a few years will become less of a problem as electric cars are being legislated in, at least in Europe. Where there's a great demand, there is money to install chargers.
How on earth you conclude the P2 wins because it has a bigger battery is beyond me. By your own conclusion even with the bigger battery, it will not catch the Tesla miles, BUT that isn't the point. All cars should be aiming for the smallest battery to get the most miles (Tesla wins) for sheer environmental factors, but also weight of the vehicle; then the bigger battery takes longer to charge to full, but at miles/KM per hour of range added (for any given power input and charging curve), the Tesla will win by a large degree. The winner of 'battery size' should be the smallest battery for a given range, not the biggest battery.
A bigger battery is a bigger battery, regardless of the vehicles efficiency. Bigger batteries also have more potential charging speed, which is a thing I didn't even talk about. The P2 can become more and more efficient (and will) with time. But the battery size stays pretty much the same in both cars though. (yes, they both can eat into the buffer). Where the M3 wins is in range and efficiency, and considering that it would make zero sense to give a point to the M3 for having a smaller battery.
Don't believe an Audi driver :D I'll stay with my tesla.
So you don’t believe my opinion is my opinion? Or are do you think I am lying about the facts presented in this video? 🙈
@@KrisRifa no, you're miss reading my comment with an ":D"
Where are the facts?
Did you show cabin noise levels to support your claims? Stating a Tesla rides like crap while the P rides like magic carpet, isn’t a fact, it shows your bias (and I’m not saying the P doesn’t ride better, but not that much better).
You say the performance is the same, while it isn’t, the Tesla is faster has better slalom times, and can be upgraded even more with a boost!
Where are the facts?
What about the view out? Low dash in the Tesla and better seating position, where are your facts there?
We get it, you prefer the Audi and Polster, and everybother ev over Tesla.
Can’t wait for your video explaining how the Audi etron GT actually “feels” faster than the Plaid and Plaid +
One of my top feature now is the sound system that is very good in the Model 3, what about the Polestar 2 ?
From all the videos I have seen its incredible. It actually uses void spaces within the car as extra bass speakers. It also has a full EQ so if you know what you are doing (unlike me) you could fully customise your audio.
It's very good in the PS2. Very good! On par with the B&O on my Audi. The Tesla stero is a disappointment in comparison and gets worse when mixed with so much road and wind noise. The stereo is a huge disappointment in my GFs M3.
@@MrGamingCookie I had a PS2 for half a day to test drive last week, but I have to say I was not impressed by the sound system in the PS2. It was not bad, but nothing to be proud of in any way. Bass was good but the mids were somewhat wobbly. At higher volumes it really start to sound somewhat strained.
@@riedlrobI bought a Model 3 in the end... I hate it.
Trading it in for a Supra in a few weeks.
Hopefully the P2 will be available soon in Austria and other countries. And also the cheaper RWD version.
The P2 with RWD and heatpump should have a range of 500km or more with the same size of the battery.
Ohh dear incoming billion down votes from the T-fans 🤐
Oh yes... Tesla fanboys ofended with an honest review..... pathetic fanboys
Would be cool if you and Bjørn could test polestar 2 vs polestar 2 PP, consumption, braking distance down from 100..and everything else :) Like is it worth 5K
Why?
Its the same cars.
Only difference is bigger brakes and Øhlins dampers.
@@cofal79 Becouse it are good to know how it effect the range , what er + and -.
@@1auditurbo it uses the same wide tires so consumption should be the same.
You can just make the ride harder or softer with øhlins dampners.
So that's it more or less.
Also most tests done is with the PP pack.
Strange with the wireless chartering. I use that very often on my samsung s21 without issues.
I suppose Kris had an issue because he is using a phone case that increases the distance of the phone to the charging pad. It is advised to keep the phone directly touching without any gap.
@@onrbsr Have tried without the case, still same issue. And it charges with no problem in my E-Tron with the case on..
Charge my iPhone xr every day, just have to push it to the little raised edge to the right. Before I discovered this I had the same experience as you Kris.
Thank you guys, I am replacing my 2018 XC60 with the 2021 next week and was curious about the wireless charging staff, (I suppose the system this car uses is same as iin the volvos) . Now I learn that locating the phone is important...
@@onrbsr I also use a case. I think there must be something wrong with the qi unit on his test car.
Den bilen ser så sykt bra ut
Helt enig 😍
My choice: Polestar 2.
Going through this video, Polestar 2 may be comparable to Tesla Model 3 in future. Till then every comparison to Tesla is bullshit.
Another fanboy trying to hold onto the crown. The rest of the industry has almost caught up, they bring quality and service with it, haven’t you got an appointment in a few weeks for a service repair :( good luck with that
Only a 20% advantage in range... pretty sure most companies would kill for a 20% advantage in anything.
I can see how that came across a bit "only 20% advantage". To be clear, and I think I am in the video. 20% more range is still very good, but the point is that the WLTP numbers of each car would make you believe the difference is bigger, so hence "only 20%". 😊