This is why I will NOT buy another Tesla - One year ownership review.
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Some people get bored with any car after a year - this guy is one of them. I buy a carefully selected car and drive it for 10+ years.
Perhaps!
Wow you're so smart 🤓
I'm guilty of that...
@@TommyLGarage honestly you sound a bit like a whiner , the things you complain about are petty, I have own plenty of different car brands and their is always something I am not a fan of because there is no perfect car.
@@user-oq6sc1qm4jthere is a perfect car and it is the car you drive when you are young and living adventures while growing. Road trips with your friends, back seat with your gf.
Then we grow up and we look for things that aren't good in everything we own instead of enjoying it like when we were young.
I gotta say, I agree about %10 of what you said. My wife got a model Y about 2 weeks ago, I’ve driven it 3 time, and there’s no way I can ever go back to a gas car again.
Wait another 6 months. You’re still in your honeymoon phase
"I started dating this cute lady here 2 weeks ago. I don't see myself having another partner in my life."
Be patient.
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I have MYL with FSD BETA(11.4.4) I go to work at 5 pm And come back 10 pm ( retired but work for fun(? Means not really for money). It is so relaxing it is almost therapeutic I love to go to work because I can drive. When my wife asks me to do errands I jump into my car with a big smile. Youth channels are showing only dramatic things(but it exists). Most FSD beta users enjoy the software. I paid 15,000 but I think it is worth every penny as of is now. But Elon will only make it better from here
Had mine for a year now and it still looks, feels and smells brand new. 30,000 miles on it and still have NOT had to replace anything, not even the wipers. I fall in love with it more and more every day.
Wipers I would replace … :)
No tire issues ❔️ 😳
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@@TommyLGarage I don’t need to just yet but probably soon. Haven’t had to use them very much where I live.
I bate to mine all the time
just wait till you have to sell it or the warranty expires on your battery lol
I've had my model 3 for about 2 1/2 years and 50,000 miles. I still look for excuses to drive it. Best car I've ever owned and I'll never go back to gas.
I can’t say it’s not fun
You admitted you are impressed with being unique. You want people to notice you. That’s you. Buy something that’s glittery and get admiring glances. I’ll take the Tesla any day. 🇦🇺
Not to one up you but Plaid is twice the thrill if you can imagine.
Have you owned any car more expensive than your Tesla? And if so which?
What a coincidence. “Tesla is the best car ever as the first comment.”
Complaining about a refresh when you have a Porsche in the garage that looks like one from 30 years ago.
Touché!!
HAAAA - Got 'em!!! 😂😂👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
That’s hilarious!!!!! 😂
Excuse me! I get it. The Porsche 911 is timeless. Ask any Porsche enthusiast. The design is unique. Ok. The Tesla is about as utilitarian a design as you will find on the road today. Blah. Boring.
That was lame, seriously. 911 styling is beyond reproach....true to the model. It keeps the tradition alive unlike so many other models.
Any issue with the tires wear from inside? What PSI do you keep the tires at? I have the same set of tire as you do.
No issue. 38psi all around.
Thank you.
Holy crap. Scrolling through the comments, there are dozens of complaints about repeated phantom braking, as if it is a minor annoyance rather than the safety hazard it is. The truth is, while the market is still growing, EV’s are piling up on dealer lots. They are a niche vehicle and will remain so for the foreseeable future.
True. Especially now that gas prices are dropping
Legacy auto has dealerships. Legacy auto has EVs sitting on lots.
Tesla is selling direct to consumers; as fast as they can make them.
No middle man or markups.
I would agree that the feeling I get when entering my M3LR is far from one of luxury and that continues while driving with a rattle here and there. However, I never assumed that luxury was what I was paying for in a Tesla Model 3. I consider it (Tesla) to be the best electric car available for the dollars paid. Acceleration, OTA updates, range, charging infrastructure and an overall feeling of technical excellence overtake the loss of a luxurious feeling.
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I agree with you and I'm thinking of buying a Model Y. My expectations of engineering excellence are met 100%, however with the cost of the vehicle I'd think they'd have added by now different interiors, colors, body improvements and variations...it is disappointing in these aspects but as a consumer, I think I'm going to stick with a vehicle that is top of the line in respect to engineering and function. What out there on the market can compete with that standard, plus have luxury interior/exterior, and price range? BTW...I'll NEVER own another Ford so don't even mention those POS!
The US gov't paid for that charging infrastructure thats so grossly underwhelmed and done so Elon can keep grifting more govt money and keep giving Teslas management like Kirkhorn a $600 million severance package for being a CFO for just 4yrs..........
The gov't should of made Tesla manufacture and install 1 charger per every 3 vehicles manufactured in order to get those carbon credits they profit highly from and install those chargers on or near the interstate near the points of delivery of the vehicles..Theres millions of Teslas made and yet theres less than 30,000 Tesla chargers worldwide and theyre selling their NACS adapters to other car manufacturers then gonna lean on the gov't in grifter mode...
Just think about that a lil too ..Where do you think the money comes from?...Taxpayers and the people who bought a Tesla or an EV that uses a Tesla charger..
Your tax dollars are funding your own charging infrastructure that alot complain about and then you are paying to use those chargers that rely on fossil fuels and pay taxes for the sale while Tesla profits from three ends!
Thats highly irresponsible as a car company in my eye to rely on the gov't to mop up a mess Tesla they themselves created also to mention has plenty of money to fix the issue but refuses to because most of Teslas worth is gonna be sliced and diced by the entire management and noone wants to chance their portions to make customers truly happy.... ....
Your model is afflicted by fraudulent range aswell as has inferior suspension parts...Just look up Whompy Wheels lawsuits...
Then theres the fraudulent statements about Safety with Tesla giving themselves 5.4 stars when theres 5 stars maximum plus the NHTSA had to tell Tesla numerous times not to claim those misleading claims they say are facts...
The NHTSA has over 500 pages on the subject of how Tesla claims fraudulent and misleading claims about its vehicles but Tesla asked them to only display 79 pages and withhold 450 of that report they show online.....LOL
Oh and then theres the crash test manipulation investigation too..
I love when people say theyre happy with buying dollar store goods that were displayed in the Macys window and priced accordingly...LOL
I get that, but the problem is you're paying luxury car prices. Maybe not so much now they have dropped the prices, but I can see their market beginning to slide once the EV novelty wears off as more competition emerges and more and more people realise exactly what it is they are getting, and more importantly, not getting.
Regen braking was not reduced via an over the air update. It just got cold outside. In fact, tesla increased regen braking in a cold battery via an over the update where it basically will create heat with the motors when the battery is cold and still provide regen braking when it did not before.
Also, the battery likely didn’t degrade much, the BMS estimate is likely just off due to charging habits
Not a perfect car but it’s very nice :)
You would think after a year of ownership that he would have figured that out on his own. Obviously this is his wife's car, and he says, "she loves it.", so there you go.
@@jayv72 Literally all his complains can boil down to "I got used to driving this in the summer, now its winter."
You saved me typing, this guy does not know what he is talking about. Cold weather and driving habits will show different full charge estimates, NOT degradation. This is why I will NOT watch another video from this channel... hence thumbs down.
They also added an update recently where you can have the physical brakes kick in to compensate for the reduced regen braking either due to colder weather, or if the battery is over 90% charge and can't do much regen.
Totally agree. There are some videos on YT bout ppl using a Model 3 as a Taxi. After 200k+ miles the battery lost 15% of its capacity. An that's the worst scenario benchmark you can imagine
Good video. I see this was 8 months ago. I wonder what you think of the refreshed Model 3? I have the impression many of the interior issues you raised have bee addressed there. I think I've heard there are plans to have an update for the MY.
My model 3 is new and so far i love it. Tesla fixed the wind noise problem on the drivers side window. I wonder if your front LP bracket will work on a model 3
Good question. I’ll check
I think there is a setting so you can have the app open in the background to unlock the car.
And there should also be a setting now to simulate regen braking when it's not fully available (of cause depends on your current software version)
Good points. The positive definitely outweigh the negative for me. My wife got one after her 530i was totaled. Many asked for my recommendation and bought Tesla. I spoke to Mach E owner who bought one when someone backed out of a contract. He said the one thing he did not like about the Mach E was the poor charging network when he drives long distance. I believe Tesla is not just an EV but an EV with a whole network of supercharging. The price you pay is part of the supercharging.
Great point. But for those who daily charge at home any electric car will do
@@TommyLGarage From reading all the comments. Definitely a mix bag of opinions. Just like Elon!
agreed, actually just commented the same. holding off on my reservation and 2 chances to order an F150 lightning because of the nonTesla charging network issues
It looks like Tesla may be opening up their charging network to all ev's. That will eliminate the largest advantage that they have over other ev's.
@@gild651 agreed!!
We were told by Tesla not to charge 100% most of the time. We only charge to 90% and after more than 2 years of ownership the batteries have shown no noticeable decline in charge. Phantom braking is a problem although not as bad as it was, but still a headache. Overall we are quite happy with the car. We would never road trip with it, just don’t want the hassle of finding charging stations. For local daily driving it is so nice not having to worry about gas prices. As you stated the acceleration never gets old, ours is a performance Y. When I really want acceleration I hop in the S plaid, that thing makes the Y seem slow. The S is one of the smoothest riding cars out there due to its air suspension, but that performance comes at a cost and the car sits so low that for me it’s difficult to get in and out of so I don’t drive it very often. For most people the Y is a great car, but never buy any EV until you do your research. There are some unique things that you must consider before buying.
I charge to 80% now. Used to be 90
There is no hassle finding Tesla Superchargers. When you use the navigation, the app will show you where they are, tell you how many chargers are available at each location and how long to charge there. If a location is too busy, you may be routed to another one during the trip. Relax and enjoy your trip.
@@Garrison169 it is a hassle, you're stuck to driving the route they nav wants to take. And I guess adding 6hrs to your trip isn't a hassle either. Teslastans are the most annoying twats on the interent.
good video. I have a jag ipace and charge to 60% unless I go on a road trip, then it's 80%. The jags done 60000miles and the battery has degradation of about 7% in 4 years.
@@walterk8602 wow that’s incredible and that’s a good strategy
Good video. Your comment about night time braking: I have not experienced this on my 2023 MY and I drive lots at night. What I do experience is hard braking as you described for crossing perpendicular traffic in front of me. I would normally not even reduce my speed as I can see the traffic has or will be well clear and yet I get the hard braking.
My chief complaint is that the car has no warning of vehicles/pedestrians crossing behind my car when backing up. My 2014 Camry had that! And the cameras do not have a wide enough view to see the crossing traffic behind me. This is my #1 safety complaint for the car.
You’re right! The car has so many cameras and sensors so it feels like an oversight
I have two Tesla's a 3 and a Y. I am all in on Tesla. I have had the 3 for approx 3 years. I will never own another ICE car, and not becasue of the environment, I just love the driving experience. I agree with a lot of your points, I still have not seen anything that can match the Tesla for price/performance/features/buying experience/dependability.
I drive a Tesla for both the environment and the driving experience. Personally I think his issues were pretty trivial.
I agree
yeah f*ck the environment lol
I will buy an EV for my next car, but I'm not at all interested in Tesla. I think they're fugly and the build quality and interior materials are really bad at the price point.
@@JustMe99999 that's your right! Enjoy whatever car you get.
i got the model Y LR. owned since Jan 2022 and have 50 K miles. my battery loss is very little maybe 10 miles but i also rarely charge to 100% so thats probably helped a good bit. I do agree the wireless chargers do suck. My car does Ghost breaking randomly day and night but sometimes it doesnt happen for weeks. FSD does work much better than the Autopilot program. I would buy another one a highly recommend one to anyone.
Does your Tesla have a rear trunk cinching mechanism? Have you experienced it failing? On our Model S it has failed 3 times. That causes the car to “think” the trunk is open when it is shut and you can’t open the trunk. It also disables cruise control and auto pilot.
No, I never had that happen to me but that’s interesting
Did you get the double layer glass for front and rear? How is the sound proof?
No single
Double paned glass in the front. Single pane in the back.
Only the refresh has the double pane glass in the rear.
There's a setting for using brakes to simulate regen braking when your battery is a 100 percent or for some other reason it cannot regen. It works very well and can't really tell the difference. In fact it was turned on by default in my model 3, I don't remember turning it on.
Unless you live at the top of a mountain I don't see how the battery could be charged to 100% when braking is required. Perhaps I am missing something.
@@frankeggers4024 What if you live and charge at the top of a steep hill?
@@frankeggers4024 Theoretically you are correct at least according to the first and second law of thermodynamics. However there are safety mechanisms on the battery itself not to fully regenerate near 100 percent. When I first pull out of my driveway it's basically full so no regen braking is done. Get down the road a few miles and it starts regening. There's also no regen in very cold environments until the battery warms up. The battery won't charge until 0c or 32f
@@Ryan-ff2db So far I have charged only up to 80% which is more than sufficient for me since I so rarely leave the metropolitan area. However, if I ever need to take a long trip I may charge to 100%. As for cold weather, here in the desert the temperature very rarely drops to 40F. But based on what you have written, I can see how it is possible for regenerative braking to be disabled sometimes.
@@frankeggers4024 Yeah, realistically its not issue if that setting is turned on. I have an LFP battery, so Tesla recommends charging to 100 percent at least once a week. I just went down to Costco which is about 5 miles away. I didn't really check the regen on the way there but it was definitely regen charging on the way back at 98 percent or so.
I have had a model Y LR for 14 months and I have over 25K miles. I mostly love the car. The phantom braking is really the only thing that would prevent me from buying another Tesla. That has gotten much better with software updates, but it is still an issue that I have my doubts will every be truly resolved. Until CCS charging gets better in the rural area I live in Tesla is really the only option. I do most of my charging at home, but I do road trips nearly once a month and there are far fewer CCS fast chargers along the routes I typically travel.
J I’m guess I’m not crazy after all!!
Is the phantom braking only during autopilot?
The phantom braking events always occurred while using basic autopilot. I should mention that with the latest software Tesla has finally fixed the problem and for the lasts 6 weeks or so I have very rarely experienced phantom braking. I a year and a half of ownership Tesla has provided the car I should have had the day I took delivery.@@cutlassrkt
I have a Model Y LR, and my experience has been good except for the occasional phantom braking issue. Otherwise, it is a fun car to drive even on long trips like a recent one from OKC to Shelby, Montana, and back. I do agree with the earlier writer that more supercharger stations are needed in rural areas as well as Western States. But, resistance to EV's is part of the problem, which eventually will be resolved.
Well, I'm not a car enthusiast; but I would absolutely have a Tesla. All of the reasons that you mentioned appear to be matters of personal preference rather than serious deficiencies (except for the unexpected breaking issue, which is a serious deficiency). because of that I would also not run autopilot at night. There is a lot to said for waking up to a fully fueled vehicle every morning. there are also a lot of factors that affect the rate of battery degradation; so that can be controlled somewhat.
Thanks for the review though. I really appreciate owners real world thoughts on a product.
You just select mechanical braking mixed into the regen when needed in software, creates the same feel when lifting. In brakes and steering control menu, enable mechanical braking when regen reduced. 11 months in and I would never consider a non Tesla EV, I travel upstate NY to Boston regularly, The charging infrastructure (non Tesla) is not reliable enough. The networks are not online and you do not know if the charger will be working or occupied when you arrive. Supercharging is the huge deal breaker for me, I have never been skunked.
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I tried it. Not the same feel
Absolutely love my Model Y. Safety, software, and SuperChargers are just too good to ignore. Incredibly comfortable, best cargo capacity in its class, excellent performance, great range... what's not to like. ;)
Lack of luxury inside is what kills me
@@TommyLGarage LMAO, yet you say Mustang Mach E is more luxury because of some cheap ass ambient lighting that ford installed for $100 bucks. Smh. How about keep your small children safe in the safest vehicle ever made by humans. Your children not being dead is the BEST LUXURY in the world
@@TommyLGarage Being able to avoid gas stations and always leave my garage on a full “tank” is the best luxury of all.
@@esquiredan2702 yes !!!
@@TommyLGarage tesla's software and level of tech is luxury for real
Returned my Tesla Y off of a 2 year lease yesterday. Agree with you completely. Love the handling and the acceleration, but that’s about it. Was happy the car was going back. Didn’t replace it with another Tesla.
I want a electric toaster on wheels.
But what did you get?
Our new 2023 Model Y Performance is a little better than our 2019 Model 3 Performance. The fit and finish still leaves a lot to be desired. The quality control is still not there. Maybe the incoming highland will be a level above. I feel as though we let a lot of things go by knowing it is a Tesla. Items that we would not accept if it was Lexus or Mercedes.
@@mocheen4837 If Tesla Shanghai is any indication the refreshed car should be much better. They have 95% automation on the line. But I am not sure that Fremont will get the same treatment. Shanghai rolls out a car every 40 seconds.
Now I love in Massachusetts do the Tesla come from Shanghai or Fremont@@danharold3087
Interesting video. Just bought a Model Y Performance last week (12/23) for about $8k less than last year’s price (including an extra $1k off for being a Cybertruck reservation holder) and did a road trip to Las Vegas. Easy to find superchargers and we watched Netflix on the Tesla screen while charging, fun! A lot to learn about the controls but I’m learning.
You lucked out !
Since you asked, after 3 years I still love my model 3. It handles like a sports car and passes everything in sight - especially gas stations.
That's pretty funny , you pass every gas station because you fill it up every night at home 😄, my conventional car I often go two weeks without even thinking about filling up , then I pull into a servo and spend 5 minutes filling up and don't even think about filling up again for another couple of weeks ,and my conventional car has the same range it had 6 years ago when it came off the production line , and probably will have in another 6 years.
In 3 years what is the state of the battery? That’s the main concern about buying a Tesla
That’s funny every time I pass a Super Charging station, I laugh at the people wasting their time charging.
@@mikldude9376 Your comment is funny too, times are changing. perhaps you already have a smartphone? is it electric or diesel powerd? electric, ok, lucky guy! so you are taking it once a week to the shop in the mall to fill it up? no? because its not convenient? you charge it at home? but this takes hours!!! oh you charge over night, so charging time doesnt matter, how clever!
@@mikldude9376 the only thing is every time I go fill the car up I'm worried about the price lol, shit's expensive af for even half the tank like somewhere around 50$ in Germany, would rather spend the money on some coffee n have it while I charge, much more chill but yea depends if ur always in some sort of hurry.
I have owned a Model Y Performance since last October and plan to keep it long term. It is a fantastic around town car. Plenty of storage space for our needs. It is a fun car but also appliance-like too. Not a problem for me as we have other vehicles for fun or utility.
Right on! !
@@TommyLGarage what about a 911. 993 😇
That seems to be the common denominator amongst Tesla people.
did you always charge your battery to 80% or you always did full charges?
Yes always to 80
what percentage do you think you fast charged the car vs lvl 2?@@TommyLGarage
@@TommyLGarage Telsa recommended I charge my 2022 Y to 100% at least once per week. My 2017 S to 80%. Depends on the battery type.
@@trafficlawvictoria6614 I wonder why??!!
@@TommyLGaragebattery chemistry. The standard RWD has LFP batteries, which can be charged to 100% daily, the AWD ones use NCM/NCA batteries and should usually be charged to 80% to slow down degradation, occasionally to 100% when you need it (like the night before road trip).
How do you know it's not the wider tires you put on it, that have reduced the range?
Because it just happened recently
I had the same issue with my Model Y. In the beginning they said charging to 90% was fine but the better way is only charging to 80% and staying above 20% . Also on trips that gives you a break every 2-2:30. The cars do need a refresh.
I’ve done 25,000 miles in my model Y.
It replaced an X5. (That I also liked !)
The Tesla is utterly brilliant. It’s fast, spacious and safe.
I’ll never look at anything other than a Tesla.
I learned a couple of things in this 1. It's generally an alright car but much of that goodness seems to come from the charging network. I've never seen a charging station here or maybe just didn't notice one. The centre is only about 20 minutes away tho. 2. A lot of people don't know the difference in spelling breaking (as in breaking something) and braking (slowing a car).
So many people make that mistake, I think some of them might be idiots.
@@notdan995 That is not fair! One should take these reports of a phantom credibly. Especially a phantom that is breaking things. Lock up those Hummel figurines, that’s my advice.
Autocorrect for the Braking comment dude...easily done.
The Tesla charging network will be open to everyone....Tesla will not have a choice. Also, like the Iphone lightning connector getting changed to USB-C, the same will happen to the Tesla chargers.
They will be forced to fit a common charging connector across ALL charging stations, Tesla, or 3rd party.
It is better for the consumer and better for the environment.
@@bricktop7803 Europe leads the way, here. 👍
Yes the only significant advantage Tesla had was it’s charging network, but musk squandered that by opening up the network to a big number of other cars.
I agree 100% with everything said. I'm stuck with my M3P due to recent price drops; otherwise, would offload it. Not getting another Tesla until or if quality improves.
Need to return it for a full refund and trade for an ICE CAR.
Price drops are so hard to swallow
Im not ready for electric yet, but always interested to hear owner's thoughts. Nice video.
Thanks for watching! I appreciate it
7 months in my model 3, I have to say 0 issues, I think the only problem is the cameras seem to get blinded easily that's it, other then that it's been an excellent car!!
@Ro Herms I’ve heard Mazda has that issue. I wonder what’s the problem that everyone can’t fix.
I have had the same car, with white seats, for almost 2 months and the things you don't like are the things I like best. I simply turn off the automatic high lights. Only the suspension is too low. If we could install air suspension in Tesla, it would be perfect. It exists, but we would lose the warranty if we did. The cameras are very low quality. But I am totally in love with the car.
ive had my model y for a year and a half and I drive this car like no other. 35 thousand miles per year. I fricken love my car, my only complaint is the stiff suspension for the performance model so I opt for 18" wheels and a bigger tire for more cushion, it's OK now. The car saves me $300 PER MONTH on gas. So I dont see it as a luxury option but a survivability option with a hint of luxury. I dont regret my decision
Wow that’s a lot of miles!
Er I spend 5mins in a gas station every 400 or so miles. Any EV needs at least 45 mins to fully charge. I don’t have the time. Fine for shopping when you park overnight but not a replacement for real car
Just one point: Elon Musk did NOT start Tesla.
Very helpful overview.
Do you charge your car to close to 100% every night? That might explain your lack of regen in the morning, and the relatively high range loss after just a year. I've had my M3LR for 4 years and have had similar range loss, although doing a couple of deep discharge cycles might bring it back up a bit. Not concerned because the most meaningful range is not 300 miles but the distance to the next Supercharger on a road trip. Anyway, I'm taking delivery of this same blue car but with white seats in a week, and wouldn't get any other brand until competing charging networks get their shit together. The way things are going with EA that may take a while yet.
I am considering of purchasing a Model Y a week or so. My biggest reason is saving money on Gas. I hate going to gas stations 2-3 times a week and costing me about $580 per month plus I don’t have to deal with oil change every 3-5k miles, I save Solar at home
Extra convenience and almost Free electricity. Supper charger are everywhere from Northern Cal to Southern Cal.
The Fed give 7500 Plus 2000 from The State and an Extra 500 from friend referral.
Do you think that good enough reason to purchase Tesla
Absolutely it’s a good enough reason. You’ll definitely see significant gas savings.
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Thanks
You won’t be disappointed and you will never look back. I’ve have model y for a little over a month and my only regret is that I didn’t do this sooner.
I'm curious, what battery chemistry is your model Y using ? Tesla is switching to the LFP chemistry for certain models but from what you say about your range I have to assume you have the older lithium ion battery chemistry which personally, even with my solar generators I won't buy lithium ion for anything.
Yes older lithium ion
I’m excited for my model y to be coming in. Wouldn’t have considered if it wasn’t for the reduction in price
Definitely a great deal!
but girls hated tesla cars though
@@jake9854 ???
Would your battery degradation/reduced range be due to the change in tires? Wider tires might cause more weight and drag? Just a thought 🤔
Good point. And likely a change in rolling resistance too.
I bought my 2023 Model Y LR because of the EV trend, reduced operation cost, and warranty. I must admit the initial costs to equip and charge my vehicle at home has been a downer. Additionally, the added expense by the State was unexpected. But the car is fun to drive except for phantom braking that tends to occur on a clear day, and as more EV charging stations come on line, access to electricity will be less of an issue. Oh, my car was built well, so that is not an issue, which was an issue in the past for some.
got my first phantom brake on the highway. having read that this is a real thing I didn't get worried. but if tesla is trying to convince bad drivers to go FSD shouldn't they first get that issue right? And why can't I put in gps coordinates to get somewhere like any other basic satnav? There are many places that do not have street addresses ...
Those are indeed real issues!
all good points. One thing that's helpful in the last couple of updates is the option to combine regen and the brakes together for when the regen is weak due to battery charge being too high. One that i found annoying at first and totally used to now is auto shutoff turn signals when the vehicle detects the lane change.
I tried combining brakes with regen but didn’t like the feeling honestly.
You can turn off auto turn signal turnoff
@@TommyLGarage If the cause is a 100% charged battery why not just charge it to 95%?
@@js32257 Not only that. In colder weather (even in Cali where I live at around 65F) regen is not fully available for a long time. Sometimes, it becomes available all the way, but then after more driving, some of the dots on the bar appear again to indicate less of regen. in short, it is just a weird way Tesla manages it. Perhaps, it monitors battery SOC and temperature. But, it could be annoying sometimes.
@@cobrachannel100 I don’t own a Tesla but I wouldn’t call the behavior weird. They are focusing on battery health. You don’t want to charge an already charged or “cold” battery. I see both sides, though. The problem I have is that disabling regen braking changes the feel of how the car drives and that is not safe. The only solution I see is an always warmed small auxiliary battery to take the charge when the main battery is cold or already fully charged but…who wants to pay for that?
So for you, if Tesla doesn't change the color of the paint they apply, there's "no innovation" ? Have you seen any of Munro Live's analyses of Tesla's continuous design improvements?
Appreciate your honest take… Question, after putting 21,000 miles on your Y, did you take for granted the conviene of the Tesla charging stations? Thanks
You’re right. The charging network is amazing
Thank you for this short but detailed information. I am thinking to begin getting into the EV car world. Lots to consider and think about. The Benz EQE is one of my considerations. I enjoy being comfortable now days when I’m driving, especially on trips. I’ve heard a lot about the sears not very comfortable as well on the model Y. Thanks again
I mean you’ll be fine with it. Just don’t expect Mercedes quality
Having done more than my fair share of repairs on S Class Mercs, I can tell you the Tesla is superior in terms of solid and reliable engineering. @@TommyLGarage
Seats are a very personal thing. Try them rather than listen to how somebody else feels about them. Not saying there is no such thing a bad seats.
@@danharold3087 I agree. Thank you.
Hey Tommy, In 2018 I picked up a new MS for my wife. To date it has 31k miles and she still loves it, to the point where she says she will never own a gas powered vehicle. For the wife its perfect and the minimal maintenance is a huge plus. I agree on the fun and not so fun part of driving an EV but that's why we have 911's. 😁
Good point! It is indeed a great daily
That phantom breaking is scary: hopefully, a software update will fix that. The roofline shape I assume has a lot to do with aerodynamic drag reduction so it depends on what tradeoff you are willing to make. While I can see the aesthetic reason for hiding the hitch, you would think the smart engineers at Tesla would come up with a better way to install a safety pin even if it means a custom solution.
Phantom braking has been a known issue for the last few years and does keep improving with every update. While you can get it with a tow hitch (I got one on my MY) I do not recommend buying a Tesla if you do a lot of towing, (I have a F150 for that). The rest is all nitpicking really & if his wife likes the car then that's all that matters. 🙂
Phantom breaking sounds more than just a patch that needs to be fixed, sounds like a deathwish waiting to happen.
I'll probably end up buying a Model Y in the next 2 months or so, but I've already concluded I won't be using auto pilot. Honestly, unless I'm doing a long road trip, I never use autopilot in any of the cars I drive.
With that said, however, clearly phantom breaking is unacceptable. I also feel it's something Tesla won't be able to fix. I might be wrong, but it seems the problem is due to them removing the radars in favor or cameras and if I had to guess, there's no way to not have the cameras occasionally get fooled. You need both cameras and radar. But I get it, it's hard to add all of these features and keep the price reasonable. We're just finding out that GM loses $9k with every Chevy Bolt they sell.
Even in the day I find it way too sensitive. If you are trying to pass a push bike it won't do it. If there is a crossroads ahead of you, and a car goes aross from one side to the other, it will brake like 2 seconds after the car has already crossed all the way over, even when it's like 200 yards away. The other time is when someone is wating at a T junction it will brake even if they aren't moving.
That being said I've just learned to turn off cruise control when those situations arise. Cruise control is no excuse for not paying attention, but it does make me all the more sceptical about full self driving arriving any time soon.
The bigger pain is the lane departure system that tries to yank the wheel at random times when I don't want it to. It wants you to drive in the middle of the lane, but if there is a truck on one side and nothing on the other then I want to be as far over as I can, but the car wants to violently steer me towards the truck that is snaking back and forth in it's lane... I know you can turn it off but it resets every journey and I don't always remember.
@@TygerByte if phantom breaking causes death, it's because someone was tailgating you very closely illegally like a total asshole. Assholery on wheels causes death, not phantom breaking.
Great video. Thanks for sharing. I was surprised to hear you mention the new Volvo considering you didn’t like the minimalist interior of the Tesla. That Volvo follows the same design language but with an arguably worse infotainment implementation. The exterior of the car is beautiful and the price is competitive, but the interior appears to be lacklustre (just like the hybrid XC range has been for years). Would love to hear your thoughts on this.
So actually Volvo has a minimalist yet premium feeling interior. I used to own an xc90 2018 and loved it
What is the overall comfort level from the suspension and seats? Also, 22 miles per charge decrease seems like a lot to me in just one year. I have never owned any EVs so I have nothing to compare it to. Were you regulating your charges per Tesla recommendations?
Suspension is harsh but I enjoy it. It makes it seem like a sports car. And yes I do charge do 80%
Harsh suspension and noisy cabin for sure.
People complain too much.....Cabin noise is adequate considering you have full glass ceiling with no overhead insulation and the seats are super adjustable and comfortable after our 24Kfirst year!
If you are coming from a BMW sedan or a bmw MINI cooper you will like the suspension. I personally came from driving both and I prefer the ride to be a bite more rough so I know what the road feels like especially at speed. I found the Tesla to be less harsh than a BMW or MINI.
I’ve had my x for almost 5 years, just got a y. For me it has everything I need and enough acceleration. Drive around 50-60k a year and no other car has been as good for that much driving besides maybe my older Toyota.
Battery degradation?
@@TommyLGarage around 8-10 percent. I charge a crap ton though so average is usually much less
I got my car within a few weeks of yours (next week will be a year), same config. Starting watching your channel because you got the car when i did.
Anyway, agree with your pros and my comments to your cons: Regen braking has always been limited in cold weather. they improved this with the option to turn on auto apply brakes, so you can drive it the same way no matter if its cold or warm.
Agree on the wheels, i actually only kept the Uberturbines on for a couple months, switched to aftermarket 19's with crossclimate2's on them.
I only have just over 10k miles on mine but i never got over 300 mi indicated, even when charged to 100% which I've only done a few times, now its winter it shows less though. I don't pay attention to the miles tho, just %.
Agree the hitch is kinda annoying to use, you basically have to lay on the ground to hook up a trailer.
I refused to pay $350 for a $10 garage door opener, yes it should be included...
yes there are more Model Y's out there but it definitely isnt a toyota appliance. Your comment of 'it never gets old' (its performance) is the opposite of an appliance car.
Interior lighting on the car does suck, but many new cars are doing that, they don't light up the interior, they put dim LED spotlights only on the certain area of your seat, its not just the model Y.
I still like mine, I've actually got 2 chances to order the F150 Lighting (I'm a reservation holder) and am holding off because of the limitations on the non Tesla charging network. mostly Non-Tesla charger reliability and availability.
Great feedback. I guess looking back it is still a decent value proposition. Maybe as I’ve gotten older I expect more luxury…
@@TommyLGarage yes, I think Tesla's luxury is in the features and software vs the 'stuff' on the interior. Like they don't have the wow factor of bmw or MB, but they do have the over the top performance and options on screen. Its like Teslas have been called luxury because the industry doesn't really know what to call advanced and never seen before quirks of the cars.
@@phtofl My wife and I traded our Mercedes SLK-250 for a new 2023 Model Y just last Wednesday. I don't miss all the buttons in the SLK if that is what luxury is all about. We actually prefer the minimalist interior as less is more for us. The new 2023 Y's have Ambient lighting if that is what luxury is all about. We have a 2013 Ford Explorer that we're debating on getting rid of except it has 7 person seating and our Y is only the 5-seat model. Lots to consider when you move to a Tesla, but I'm not wanting a lot more luxury. It's fine enough for us. Just my 2c.
@@TommyLGarage Show me once where Tesla markets its cars as luxury. Not in any website or document. They call them premium. You call it a luxury car not Tesla.
so when your tesla needs repairs or maintenance, where can you take it besides a Tesla dealer?
No one else really. But it won’t require much maintenance.
You take it to a Tesla certified body shop.
Thanks for the video. Ah…seems like there are some misaligned or odd expectations here. If you get a Mustang MachE, you won’t have the problems with two steps forward and one step back, because there are virtually no updates and they don’t make the car meaningfully better.
You won’t have phantom braking…and the software for driver’s assistance will never get any better either. It will have all of the same limitations as it does now - like having to disengage around some corners and not be able to use it on most roads. Efficiency is worse. Overheating issues. No present access to Supercharger network, no NACS. Uncomfortable seats? That’s entirely subjective. My M Y seats are the most comfortable I have ever had in an automobile. 🤷♂️. Battery degradation is normal and will happen with any electric car. Did you not know that when you bought it? Sounds like a bunch of subjective stuff that you’re using as excuses for just not liking the car. That’s fine, but getting another (objectively worse) electric car will not solve those problems.
There was one other thing, oh yeah, the regenerative break or breaking settings got better with that software update. Now, you have the option to select, whether or not the car uses its friction breaks to simulate the feel of the normal regenerative braking in the case of the car being at a high state of charge and or when the, vehicle is cold and regenerative braking would not be as strong as otherwise. So, that is a case of becoming more familiar with the vehicle, rather than the vehicle having a problem and being deficient in someway. The vehicle actually got better, but if you don’t understand that, that is not the fault of the vehicle. Also, if the vehicle gets two steps better, and one step worse, that means the net amount of betterment is in the positive direction. With any other vehicle, it is never going to get any better than the day you buy it.
Well said.
Good video! I have to admit I am a Model X fan and have driven the car 22,000 miles in a little over five years. The longest trip being over 600 miles round trip about three/four times a year. Covid kept me home bound, so mileage is low. I think this size is huge, in answer to all of you who have space issues. I did buy a new 'alternate' battery, and four new tires recently, plus sprung for another five years of warranty. I am 84 years young and loving the speed I use when getting onto the highway here in the Bay Area. I can avoid everyone!!
Listening to your likes and dislikes, I find your objections somewhat questionable...!
The only reason some car companies change their shape is to sell vehicles at the year's end. Tesla doesn't wait till the end of the year, it makes changes during the year. Tesla has superior software, which leaves others to shame.
what alternative EV would you move to?
Rivian
What are your thoughts on the model 3 refresh?
I quite like it actually. How about you?
@@TommyLGarage I like it a lot. It seems like they have improved quality at least a little bit plus they added cooled seats and I was planning on making it my first tesla because I’ve wanted one so bad for years. Now I’m having second thoughts because of your video and idk what to do lol
Tommy, I’m in the same boat as you. I really enjoy my MYP. We got ours around the same time as you. We even used your all season tire recommendation! Now, we are at 25k miles and our battery has degraded quite a bit…full charge is only up to 286 miles now (this is the biggest downfall imo)….I do still enjoy the car, just disappointed with the battery 😢
We are a two driver, three car household. Over the summer I purchased the first manual transmission car I’ve ever owned and now really enjoy it. I also owned a 2021 BMW M340. I wanted to trade the M340 to turn it into a more utility vehicle, but the X3M40 I wanted to buy they only wanted MSRP and the trade was fairly low. Once Tesla dropped the Y 19% in price, combined with the tax credit, it was a no brainer. Turn one gas car out of the 3 into an EV. Like I said, for combustion, I already have a manual. The best performance aspects are obviously the acceleration and steering ratio. When you really push it on a windy road, you do feel the weight.
Well said
Ya, I too noticed the phantom breaking issue. It's a great 2nd car but I miss being able to go wherever I want. Supercharger network needs to be extended to US highways.
Not sure why they don’t exist on highways
@TommyLGarage I think I'm going back to Subaru. I was thinking a Forester Wilderness. As soon as I get the Federal Tax credit in February the model Y is gone. It's not a bad car but I don't necessarily feel like it's the right car for me exactly.
One question. When you changed the tires did you update the tire size? If not those 21k miles in 13 months are a lil questionable....
The difference in diameters between the tires you have vs stock is enough to raise the speed on the odometer by 5 mph.[actually 4.7mph]
Normal use is roughly 12k a year so almost doubling the mileage means youre hardly ever home and basically living behind the wheel.....
When I put bigger tires on my truck it raised the mph by 5mph . Didnt realize that for 16years I was accruing more mileage on the clock than actually driven....With Teslas range fraud lawsuit odometer manipulation is gonna be another issue... You should measure the accuracy of your odometer against an actual measured mile on the highway using highway markers and do it at different speeds too....
Another fact is that some new car manufacturers set the odometers 5mph higher to err on the side of caution due to the facts that tires get smaller in diameter as they wear down so if your odometer is already set 5mph faster your odometer is reading almost 10mph higher than actually traveling....
Setting an odometer faster than actual is a blaintant form of odometer fraud thats considered kinda legal yet for every 1000 miles driven an extra 83 miles is accrued so youre actually traveling 917 miles so out of 21 k you actually traveled 19k miles and so you overpaid for recharging too and your battery range is miscalculating aswell as the 0-60mph time.....
I drive a lot! 2 kids and lots of family trips.
But no I didn’t adjust the tire size. Interesting point.
The wider tires have absolutely affected your range. I don’t believe your battery has degraded that much. The cars computer algorithm adjusts the range as you drive over time and with the wider tires there is absolutely no way the range has not been negatively affected.
No, it’s actually a well known fact that Tesla batteries degrade way faster than you’d expect. After about 7 years the battery would fail. And that’s with very economical driving such as no hard acceleration, ever.
@@SeamusOR Bs. I own two. My 2015 model with over 130k miles still charges to 225miles.
@@SeamusOR it's a 'well-exaggerated trope' that Tesla batteries degrade faster, but it's not way faster and not actually a fact. just an internet urban legend. there are more examples of the Tesla battery packs NOT degrading much as there are some that DO degrade more than expected. BUT ALL ARE STATISTICALLY CONSISTENT. TESLA BATTERY PACKS ARE VERY GOOD.
I’ve lost 40km of range out of 488km on my MYP in 18 months and 32k kms driven, stock tires.
@@SeamusORbull dung dude stop with your lies.
Regen braking did not change. Your weather or charging patterns changed. Plus, a feature was specifically added to address this where the manual brakes automatically applied slightly if your regen is limited. This provides the exact consistent behavior you’re looking for.
You’re right, the regen breaking only doesn’t work when you charge the battery to 100%. there’s no reason for the battery to be recharged when it’s already at 100% so it waits until you get down to about maybe 95% before it starts working that’s probably why his range is all screwed up because he probably charges to 100% every time which is not what they recommend
@@samueldion-nt8mg *Sigh* None of this nonsense with an ICE car.
bizarre and dangerous but consistent means it is still a defective design.
Before buying a NEW electric vehicle. Wait about 3 more years minimum for another couple iterations of the other makes and models. That gives time for any glitches to be worked out.
Great point!
we went with the Rivian R1s for the family.. but looking for a refreshed Model 3 for my son. Tesla design are OK but the superchargers, range and no haggle pricing is something you can't ignore. Try getting any EV with a dealership... be ready for mark ups.
I have had a model 3 (RWD LFP) for 13 months (and 16K kms) and still love it. Its a great handling car for our windy roads here in NZ. By far the biggest negative for me is the phantom braking - when you get a full on emergency brake then it certainly gives you and your passengers a big fright (not to mention the risk from cars following closely)! This problem is not unique to Tesla (or EVs for that matter) but they certainly need to improve it. On other big positives I find the frequent software updates are fantastic and the car is much better than when I first got it (many quirks fixed and useful new features added). Also the Tesla Supercharger network is a big plus - my experience here in NZ is that they always have bays available, they charge quickly and they always work with a minimum of fuss (definitely not always the case with other public chargers as I have found here - e.g. in one town there were 2 separate public chargers and both were broken!). I'm not sure a Mach E would work well for me, personally, as our public charging infrastructure (coupled with a higher energy consumption of the Mach E) would be frustrating on longer trips. In any case its a bigger car than we need now. So for me the Tesla positives greatly out weigh the negatives but everyone is going to have their own needs and its a matter of weighing up what you need.
Tesla are very specific about how often to clean the cameras. I wonder could a slightly dirty front cameras could be the main reason for phantom braking. To be honest, in my 10K kilometers with it, my Model Y only once did that. As for the chances of being hit from behind by another car, well for that they teach us to keep safe distance in according to the speed we are driving with. The irony is that we bought the Tesla, because a week earlier another BMW M5 stopped in the rear of ours. The damage was not huge, but since I have to drive our son to school on a daily basis, it became clear to us that we need a second car.
You're out of you're mind if you like your EV.
@@markmiller8903 Well in that case I can tell you its great thing to be out of your mind!
BEFORE…All of you should deep think about...IT'S REAL TRUE!! *Tesla Model 3 Total Cost After 10 Years =20k for Battery/10years + $ Suppercharged/Home (+) SERVICES/Maintainance = TOO MUCH?? *Hond/Toy 2024 Total Cost After 10 Years = 0,636k for 02-Battery/10years + $ Gas (+) SERVICES/Maintainance = VERY CHEAP!! Why... ??@@markmiller8903
Sorry but Phantom breaking is something that is pretty unique to only Teslas. Tesla are definitely trash.
Great video! There are 100 things I love about my 2022 Model Y. My dislikes are 1) phantom braking during a sunny Day; 2) walking up to the car with my hands full of grocery bags, with my phone in my pocket, and the car doesn't unlock right away; 3) the combination of the plain rearview mirror and the dark tinted glass - its hard for me to see what's in the rearview mirror on grey, cloudy days. That's it.
Okay Great point about walking towards it with full hands. Happens to me too
Before going to the car with your hands full unlock the car with the app...
FSD doesn't cause the phantom braking on the highway like autopilot I've heard.
You can add all those extra touches relatively inexpensively aftermarket and you should include links in the description. . .
Ambient Lighting.
Projecting the Tesla symbol on the ground when the door is open.
Rear Display Screen for A/C controls.
No way I’m paying $10k for FSD
Just bought a used model S, the lack of storage, cup holders and cell phone charging is insane. This is my first EV, range anxiety and rapid depletion in the cold weather and mountains of Utah are also incredibly frustrating.
You’ll get used to it. It’s not that bad
Lack of storage? I drove a model 3 for a year and was very impressed by the amount of storage given the overall frame of the car, and the model S is a bit bigger.
Thank you for the useful review. I own a Chevy Volt right now bc I have always tried to spend the least amount possible on cars. We can afford more, but it’s kind of a mantra of mine to spend as little as possible. That said, I am most likely going to buy the model Y in a year or two. I like the idea of this car bc of: 1. No gas 2. AWD, 3. Storage space, and 4. low maintenance costs. I appreciate the information you provided
Buy a corolla hybrid!
@@brunoheggli2888omg, NO!
After 4 years and more than 80,000 km in my Model 3 performance I am happy with it. The running and maintenance costs have been low (mainly charge at home off excess solar) and it still performs very well. On long trips it is still the best EV because of the charging network - where I live in Australia its a bit hit or miss for non-Tesla EVs. Importantly, I don't buy cars to 'love' them but to transport me and my family safely, quietly, comfortably, quickly and affordably. The Model 3P ticks all those boxes
Most of Mr Garage's complaints are about trivial BS. He had nothing bad to say about how the car functions AS A CAR! I am not a car guy, to me they're tools, like a hammer. When my hammer does its job, I'm satisfied. When the gold plating wears off my gold-plated hammer, I probably won't even notice. But I never bought a hammer to be unique or flashy or to stroke my ego. When I buy a hammer, it's to drive nails and all those other things a hammer does.
Same with my Atto3 that now joins the TM3 in the garage. The Atto is my preferred drive of the two (better ride and access) but the kids like the Tesla.
In the USA non-Tesla charging stations are a total joke! There are very few of them and half of them don't work and nobody bothers fixing them! I have a Nissan Leaf and even at Nissan dealerships they only have one L3 charger which is usually either broken, in use by the dealership to charge their new inventory, or occupied by another customer. Compare that to Tesla charging stations where they sometime have 50 units! I've go so sick of not being able to charge when I need to that I decided to sell the Leaf and get a Tesla. Don't get me wrong, the Leaf is a great car! I had it for 9 years and never had to do any maintenance aside from changing tires! It's the charging network that is the problem!
@@richardpark3054except it's a 40k$ hammer that doesn't do well compared to other hammer in that price range.
@@richardpark3054 sounds like a Corolla would fit the bill perfectly for you.
Some fair criticisms, but anybody who thinks that a Mustang Mach E is going to be a better car than a Tesla Model Y over the long-term must be smoking something really good
It’s green so must be good to smoke!
I recently drove my 2023 Model Y LR 3,300 miles from OKC to Shelby, Montana and back. I thoroughly enjoyed the four day trip, except EV supercharger stations are less prevalent out West. As more stations become available, and in better locations, trips will be even easier to plan and undertake.
Happy to hear!
The emergency breaking can be turned down or off. Mine is on medium and the breaking is not aggressive. On a 850 mile 14 hour trip, I think it breaked twice like 70 to 50mph then resumed 70. For when the car isn't using regen there is a new option to use the real break so you can simulate one pedal driving (this could have been part of the last update). There is an option for ambient light, it keeps the floor lights on while driving and they are not too bright.
But I’d like to keep emergency braking non as a safety feature.
Does anyone think that driving without using the break means you may lose some speed of reaction for emergencies? Ir does that just not happen? I park cars for a living and get to drive everything. but I don’t get to drive them very far. I always wonder.
LOL, he said. "breaking!"
If you think it is OK that the car ONLY breaks twice out of nothing, I am not sure were your priorities are. It should NOT just break out of nothing EVER, period.
@@gloofisearch Lol, your mom never told you the difference between brake and break??
I look forward to your comments on your next non-Tesla EV after 12 months of driving.
Thoughts on the Rivian?
I have a 22 Y LR and honestly, I like it a lot. Didn't buy it as a luxury car despite the price tag. Great daily driver it is.
Good choice!
I agree with you tommy. the tech is refreshing when it first launched and being a first adopter 5years ago with the model 3 the excitement is gone like a marriage 😂. I currently have model3 and Y but I see them everywhere like a white washing machine on wheels and the uniqueness is gone. The 300 mile range promises and no cooled seats for the price point. I drank the Tesla koolaide.. now I’m looking for something different!
It feels like they’re a bit stagnant now
Lmao they do look like an appliance
I think Tesla is doing the right thing by not doing "new" designs every year or so like the legacy auto makers have always done, trying to out-do each other with tail-lights that traverse the backs of vehicles and other absurd designs to get their latest to stand out against the competition. Instead Tesla simply makes the best and safest cars out there with the visual bonus of all Tesla cars look like Tesla cars.
How was the ride quality with your stock tires on those 21” wheels? Did you feel every bump, hear a lot of road noise, etc or was it average? And did the ride quality and road noise improve when you replaced your tires?
may I ask you and your viewers a question, when you lift your foot off the accelerator pedal does it apply the brake lights? the reason i asked is i followed one around Brisbane Australia for a while as we were going the same way and it would slow down without any brake lights coming on resulting in me nearly rear ending it.
So great question. Sometimes it does sometimes it doesn’t. It’s visible on the screen but there is no real reason
i was wondering if it had a software problem or a short. thank you for your response mate and much love@@TommyLGarage
It sounds like you were tailgating. Cars only apply the break light when.... wait for it.... breaking, not when decelerating by letting your foot off the gas.
@@NovaPrincess no would you like to see the dashcam footage?
If you regularly go to work at a certain time, the car will be able to automatically precondition the battery 10-15 minutes prior to your normal departure so you should have regen breaking immediately available. If you are topping your phone at 100% all the time, the longevity of the battery maybe compromised , why would a car battery be any different?
True!
I owned a model y long range for one year. Just like you, I was all giddy over it for the first few months, but then it's short comings started to manifest in my mind and at times I felt like I was driving an economy car instead of what has been labeled as a luxury car.
What made it feel economy?
Most notably was the lack of switchgear. The lack of a windshield wiper stalk in particular, imo should be illegal. Ergonomics is not a word that is ever muttered at Tesla. They strip everything that they possibly can out of the vehicles for 2 reasons...first and foremost is cost savings and secondly weight savings. To add insult to injury Tesla auto wipers are the WORST in the industry. Again, cost cutting by not including rain sensors but relying on the cameras for rain sensors. A glove box with no latch is a minor pita, especially if you are outside your car and want to reach into the car to grab your sunglasses or whatever from the glove box, you have to literally sit in the car and wait for it to power up just to open up the door..
Lack of blind spot monitoring is inexcusable. And the video feed does not qualify as blind spot monitoring....all that is is a camera based side mirror.
Lack.of cross traffic alerts is also inexcusable, period. No 360 view is outdated.
Maps does not allow you to choose a route "avoiding highway's". I lik3 to visit small cities and towns within a days d4ive from my house and I want to take the sc3nic roads every time...Tesla will auto route you on highway's if it's the most efficient way. I literally was using my phone to navigate in an 80kcdn car.
Plastic seats and no seat cooling is not good.
The list honestly goes on and on.
Now supercharger network is BY FAR the best and makes the Tesla a good road tripper. The app is the best in the business. Otherwise I can't see the hype.
I've since owned an ioniq 5, Polestar 2 and gv60 performance, all of which I prefer to the Tesla.
Well said. I agree on all fronts. Polestar indeed looks amazing!
My 2020 myp has been great for road trips and daily driver. The things you pointed out while valid are whiny. Why you ask there’s plenty of aftermarket fixes to many of the issues. In an ice car you see a sticker prices and when you leave the stealership 6 hrs later they have you for another couple of grand.i was able to fix most of the small things like a Jeda charge plate with more power outlets and256 solid state H drive. The garage door opener at first Iwas mad that its not included but the reality is that many don’t use it so its a cost savings to the manufacturer they have a seamless solution and it works you can even remotely open your door if your not home so better tech. Try sitting in the back of a Mach E if your 6 ft its a two seater car for adults.Ford is years behind Tesla in the complete package/charging range thermal management ( see Munro on their Mach e breakdown) the stealerships around here in CA are just another reason to avoid the ice platform. They design cars to be serviced to make a profit down the road. The interior is simplistically designed Ihad the guy who wrapped the exterior wrap the fake wood and piano console with carbon fiber looks great. My fuel savings are the icing on the cake a year the app says its about $1,400 for 6,000 kWh averaged out vs gas of $4,000 A $2,600 savings per year.The FSD while not perfect yet is getting better with every over the air update and is a great stress reliever in heavy traffic.it drives at freeway speeds and navigates door to door reroutes you to charger on road trip if your heavy on the foot it recalculates your next charging stop if you learn to trust the car it will give you a 20 min charge window and have you on your way. My next Truck will be the tri motor cyber truck. Yes its a little later than I had hoped for but I’m good with knowing I’m getting the most up to date vehicle that will be on the road. The acceleration still puts a smile on my face 2-1/2 years later.
There’s a setting to handle the “inconsistent feeling” with regen braking not being available yet.
And people confuse “battery degradation” with the car adjusting the range based on driving habits. For instance, mostly on the highway at 75+, your range goes down. Heavy foot, your range goes down. Even though your battery may be able to hold exactly the same charge.
I thought the phantom braking issue was pretty much handled now, no? Either way, the fact that this was happening to so many people is 100% unacceptable.
So the degradation is 100% real since I drive most of the time. It got a lot worse and I never ever get close to 300 now. Actual range is close to 200.
@@TommyLGarage - bummer. Since that’s the case, you should put in a warranty claim. I believe your battery is warranted to retain 70% (not degrade more than 30%) for 120k miles. Service should be able to take it for a couple days, fully drain the battery, then fully charge it and see how much goes into the pack (vs wasted). If it’s degraded that much, they’ll replace it for free.
@@SMWTheBar good idea thank you. And it’s already been replaced once before
@@TommyLGarage - 😳 daaaaaamn. That sucks.
I did test drive few times and I love it. With Various tax credits, I m Estimating model Y LR purchase price will be less than top trim CRV and much lower than Rav4 hybrid. I m not a rich person, hence cheaper Tesla at base price , and very low maintenance is my consideration.
The only thing holding me is I heard of annual $300-400 increase in car insurance and concern of fender bender may cost significant increase in insurance again.
Great video, and thanks a lot for taking the time!! What is your experience with servicing the vehicle? The video quality was awesome btw
Thanks for watching. Service has been none issue. The crew comes to the house.
Everytime I want to get rid of my Y, i realize that nothing else really compares. Once you get used to the tech and absolute simplicity and ease of use, you get into something from any other luxury manufacturer and you are left wanting. Especially when it's electric.
That’s a good point indeed
Absolutely 100% !!
"Nothing else really compares" is not an inherently good thing. Nothing else really compares to a Nissan CVT, for example.
Good points - I’m not a Tesla owner, partly because I am tired of seeing the same body style everywhere, and appreciate all kinds of interior features as opposed to the minimalist interior.
“Appliance” seems an appropriate description, eliminating the individuality that car enthusiasts and most people want.
Well said.
So you want to drive around in a less save car because of looks.
When I first bought my Tesla, I thought like you do about the interior. I have owned a lot of cars and it was very different. Fast forward a couple of years and I love the look. I don't like getting in another car a looking at all the junk cluttering up my view. I would like some custom lighting in the cab, but you can always do that aftermarket.
@@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726 Start using your brain, many people will, and you missed the word “partly”.
@@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726 What is "a less save car?"
8 percent loss in a year? How has your charging routine been? Last i heard that issue happening was from over burdening the natteries by charging too frequently
The regen braking should work fine if you set a scheduled time to depart. The car will warm up the interior of the car to whatever temp you have it set to and it will preheat the battery as well.
Regen braking is greatly reduced if you’re charged up to 95% or more
Now this is an excellent advice. Thanks!
I have owned a Model 3 for three years and genuinely look forward to driving it to work on a daily basis. I can't see this changing anytime soon. Also, I have not noticed any loss in mileage through charging. I do about 18000-mile pa.
Same for me. No loss of battery either, but I'm only 1-1/4 years into Model 3 ownership. Also I only charge to 80% unless going on a long trip which I've only done once.
I'm wondering if he's accounting for ambient temps when comparing range.
@@Just_Me yes I only charge to max 90%, 99.9% of the time and also have never had the issue he described with regen braking unless I have charged to 100%.
@@soupcan_97 I was wondering the same
Range is lower in cold weather, so the 5-10% decline makes sense when you see he's wearing winter clothes.
I’ve watched a ton of these video reviews on various EVs and I’d love to hear your reviews if you decide to buy a different brand. Tesla definitely seems like it’s the most complete package across the board, and the charging network is golden. We haven’t been able to drive our Y yet (ice storm and now getting PPF), but our M3LR is absolutely perfect.
IPhone 12 are not MagSafe, that is why it’s hit or miss. Don’t blame your car for you not buying the correct case for your phone.
Tesla: 10 TFLOPS
Nio: 1,016 TFLOPS
@@seccat my iphone 12 pro max is def magsafe
Not even close porsche taycan has the best of everything. Interior and looks wise
@@Uygsoerk Sounds good but let me try to explain this, The NIO has more cameras and radar. The compute needed for each additional camera or radar is n * (~1.5). This is to process the image and fuse it with the other images aka sensor fusion. The NIO needs the speed, has more to do. Both of these units are designed for image and neural net processing. Have a seperate clock for NN processing. The TFLOPS numbers may be misleading. Tesla and NIO are attacking the problem in different ways. Tesla is doing first principles using a minimalist approach. NIO seems to be adding more hardware because it, not exactly sure. Thinking better to much than too little maybe. Thus the faster processor. I am watching both Looking for info other than PR from NIO. Interesting stuff.
Does the phantom braking only happen in auto pilot mode?
Yes on cruise control
Driven my model 3 for 7 months now and i have never experienced phantom braking
I drive an old car because purchase price. I’m looking for an upgrade but might not need it yet. Tesla is something I consider - because, frankly, where I live it’s not normal to have your own driveway… but we’re moving soon where this is an option. This video is one of the most helpful out there. I’d still consider one, just gotta remember the pros and cons I guess. What’s interesting to me: how does the supercharger network help you on longer or holiday trips, and how does on board turn by turn navigation help you (specifically clear indications of what lane you need)? Thanks for making this video!
For the cold battery regen check out the option in the menu where regen is replaced with breaks to preserve the muscle memory.
I tried it but doesn’t feel natural