i wish 8bitdo would make a dedicated fightpad as opposed to just making versions of older controllers. neo-geo-esque frame, abc/xyz 6 face buttons, both sets of triggers and bumpers, both start/select, saturn m30 dpad. it would be perfect.
Love 8bitdo and their controllers but man im still not a big fan of the m30 face buttons. I understand its a saturn pad with a specific design philosophy but to me it just feels outdated. This probably feels amazing on retro era sega games but man i really want a solid fightpad from these guys because they make solid dpads.
@@mat_max it was for Xbox series too? Because I know of the one they made for switch/pc or whatever and that one was awesome you could put keys on it if you didn’t want a joystick but I believe this one is fully missable as well but not sure. I plan on putting in some sanwa buttons and an American style joystick one of these days myself
You can change all the buttons in the software. This would be the best controller of it was bigger. It’s for sure the best next gen fighting game controller. Somehow they need to make one for the ps5
Wrong. The Dualsense w/ Battlebeaver's D-buttons installed, instead of the standard pad, is the best pad for FGs. They're cheap, easy to install and there's not a pad on the market that compares.
Yeah I used to have the same issue with this model of the M30, and constantly had it with the 2.4 ghz version. It takes some getting used on where to put your finger where it registers forward only. I have lost some rounds and matches due to this issue though.
You can re-program the buttons via an app for PC, and then assign that to any profile of your choosing. You can switch button config profiles via the button below the "X-button".
I LOVED playing SF2 Turbo Ultra Tournament fighter Championship edition version 2.8823 pi with my sega genesis 8-button controller. I was 10 yrs old than and yeah, my hands have probably grown since than and this wouldn't be comfortable. But it really just looks like that 8-button controller.
will you be doing a video on extreme rate's new clicky button mod for the dual sense edge? It recently released and im excited to see how it will function as a main fighting game controller even moreso now with that available
have you tried anchoring your thumb at the middle of the dpad? Cause i think thats the better method to use for this kind of dpad, and not the same way how you would use the ps4/5 dpad where you use the tip of your thumb to do dashes and motions. I have both ps4 and xbox controller and the way i use their dpad differs from each other. For xbox, i anchor my thumb and do all the motions For ps4, i use the tip of my thumb
I tried the rotating method before but just couldn't get used to it. I couldn't feel the dpad. Maybe I didn't give it enough time. I'll give it another shot though.
This controller is incredible in every way...except its made for baby hands 😭. This is by far the best dpad ive felt in a long time. I i hold pads with middle fingers on the triggers but with this controller i have to hold with one finger on the shoulder buttons. Either way mt xbox series x controlelr finally died on me so going forward this is my main pad. Its a great pad, but very tiny
Is it almost if they did not tested all the features on this thing.. So frustrating that they almost broke the d-pad and flipped the layout buttons on the triggers. Not everybody buy them for fighting games. Retro platformers and old pc games are also why we love this design so much.
Hori fighting command 4 is the best pad in my opinion. They stop making them unfortunately but they make one for switch and it works on PC. I got it recently and feels the same as for ps4. I just ordered M30, I want to see how it feels. Does dpad feels same as Betop controller ?
man I really want to get this controller but the dpad being looser is a bit of a downer since I wanted to use this for non fighting games like shoot'em ups and run'n guns
Hey man have you looked into the new mega drive controllers from retro bit? They work on pc and its basically this just bigger. Thinking about buying one
I own both the m30 and the retrobit so I can give a small opinion on them. First and foremost QC and consistency is a lot better on the m30. Everything feels absolutely solid and buttons feel very consistent. The retrobit on the other hand all the buttons feel slightly different, the z and c buttons being more mushy on my unit. If you don't tap them from their sweet spot it will feel very short throw mushy and poor. The retrobit has an actual pivot, and is a lot more accurate when it comes to motion inputs in my testing. It's very responsive and very good. Problem with the dpad is the same as the button, it feels very inconsistent when you click around the edges, it's just not as big of a problem when you're using it as a pseudo joystick. This has a looser feeling dpad as well, not sure if it matches the Xbox m30 in that category but it's nice. The m30 feels a bit smoother in shmups despite not having a pivot it feels better in a 360 degree space. Problem is it's very easy to trigger center which can make you stop in place for a moment. This is less of a. Issue in fighting games where you're doing distinct inputs and not constantly rolling a ship around. Shoulder and trigger buttons are probably the best part of the retrobit Saturn pro, they feel fine compared to the other buttons but you can't map RS and LS. The non Xbox m30 only has shoulder buttons and they are high quality. You don't have space for RS and LS so it's moot. The retrobit Saturn pro has connectivity issues in xinput, steam doesn't seem to detect triggers in dinput mode. It's a weird problem. The m30 works flawlessly in Bluetooth mode using xinput.
Really great in depth review! I’m glad you covered the dpad. 8bitdo drives me nuts with their dpads. I hate that you can push the middle of the dpad down. On an actual genesis controller it has a pivot so you can’t push the middle down. I have a Bluetooth M30, wanted to see if the Xbox version was any better.
i wish 8bitdo would make a dedicated fightpad as opposed to just making versions of older controllers. neo-geo-esque frame, abc/xyz 6 face buttons, both sets of triggers and bumpers, both start/select, saturn m30 dpad. it would be perfect.
Love 8bitdo and their controllers but man im still not a big fan of the m30 face buttons. I understand its a saturn pad with a specific design philosophy but to me it just feels outdated. This probably feels amazing on retro era sega games but man i really want a solid fightpad from these guys because they make solid dpads.
They make an amazing fight stick with easy to change components I have it for Xbox and love it
@@traphousegamer1906the one they had before was better and they discontinued it for some reason
@@mat_max it was for Xbox series too? Because I know of the one they made for switch/pc or whatever and that one was awesome you could put keys on it if you didn’t want a joystick but I believe this one is fully missable as well but not sure.
I plan on putting in some sanwa buttons and an American style joystick one of these days myself
I think youre supposed to rest the pad on your lap when using it with a claw grip
A DS4 pad with this d-pad would be the perfect controller... Thanks for the review!
and 6 face buttons. I don't know why they don't make this exact controller at either sony or 8bitdo.
@@joelevy3042really 8bitdo just need to give us a "pro" version of this controller like what they did with the SN30 pro+
@@HollowRick I see it's real kings with great ideas on deck...because you are 1000% correct.
You can change all the buttons in the software. This would be the best controller of it was bigger. It’s for sure the best next gen fighting game controller. Somehow they need to make one for the ps5
Wrong. The Dualsense w/ Battlebeaver's D-buttons installed, instead of the standard pad, is the best pad for FGs. They're cheap, easy to install and there's not a pad on the market that compares.
@@intellectic9155no it's not. I don't know why people say independent dapd buttons are any good
@@mat_maxI agree with you. Especially when it comes to fight games.
2:08 for the goblin laugh.
This was going great until I kept accidentally jumping trying to do a quarter circle. Never had that problem with any other controller.
Yeah I used to have the same issue with this model of the M30, and constantly had it with the 2.4 ghz version. It takes some getting used on where to put your finger where it registers forward only. I have lost some rounds and matches due to this issue though.
You can re-program the buttons via an app for PC, and then assign that to any profile of your choosing. You can switch button config profiles via the button below the "X-button".
I LOVED playing SF2 Turbo Ultra Tournament fighter Championship edition version 2.8823 pi with my sega genesis 8-button controller. I was 10 yrs old than and yeah, my hands have probably grown since than and this wouldn't be comfortable. But it really just looks like that 8-button controller.
will you be doing a video on extreme rate's new clicky button mod for the dual sense edge? It recently released and im excited to see how it will function as a main fighting game controller even moreso now with that available
I hate that you have to choose between pretty colors or having triggers.
have you tried anchoring your thumb at the middle of the dpad? Cause i think thats the better method to use for this kind of dpad, and not the same way how you would use the ps4/5 dpad where you use the tip of your thumb to do dashes and motions. I have both ps4 and xbox controller and the way i use their dpad differs from each other. For xbox, i anchor my thumb and do all the motions
For ps4, i use the tip of my thumb
I tried the rotating method before but just couldn't get used to it. I couldn't feel the dpad. Maybe I didn't give it enough time. I'll give it another shot though.
@@FrameCountingsega dpads are kind of made to be used like that so that's kind of a dealbreaker
Please review the Astro c40 if you get the chance I'd love to hear your review on it.
would be cool if they iterated on the design and added analog sticks for non fighting games
Does the dpad on this one also gets stuck directions as in the original m30 ? Mine sometimes drives me crazy because of that
Nah
Children between the ages of 5, 6 and 7 are also playing games, maybe they thought about them. I think it's perfect for small hands.
I wish they would make this for people who have big hands.
i got 1 the pad is good.. but the face button ...btw have u try 8bitdo ultimate software to remap the button?
snk pad is bigger that is the difference
Between this and the 8bitdo neogeo repro, which should I choose? I mostly play 2d fighting games
This one for sure!
would've been awesome if that top right button was white like on the xbox controller
Great review
xbox version
This controller is incredible in every way...except its made for baby hands 😭. This is by far the best dpad ive felt in a long time. I i hold pads with middle fingers on the triggers but with this controller i have to hold with one finger on the shoulder buttons. Either way mt xbox series x controlelr finally died on me so going forward this is my main pad. Its a great pad, but very tiny
Agree!
Doesn't the LS switch at the back let you use the input lag tester?, or does it needs full 360 range for it to work?
Yes, but without a continuous signal from the stick, the result will be incredibly inaccurate, choppy and not reflective of actual input lag.
@@FrameCounting got it, thanks for the clarification, awesome content btw
Is it almost if they did not tested all the features on this thing..
So frustrating that they almost broke the d-pad and flipped the layout buttons on the triggers.
Not everybody buy them for fighting games.
Retro platformers and old pc games are also why we love this design so much.
Hori fighting command 4 is the best pad in my opinion. They stop making them unfortunately but they make one for switch and it works on PC. I got it recently and feels the same as for ps4. I just ordered M30, I want to see how it feels. Does dpad feels same as Betop controller ?
man I really want to get this controller but the dpad being looser is a bit of a downer since I wanted to use this for non fighting games like shoot'em ups and run'n guns
Hello, I like your reviews with sf6. What is your best pad for sf6? And which one mainly do you use for playing sf6?
this controller is perfect for me except... no wireless option :(
It works with Fire TV Stick Amazon (hub USB) ? Thanks
Hey man have you looked into the new mega drive controllers from retro bit? They work on pc and its basically this just bigger. Thinking about buying one
I own both the m30 and the retrobit so I can give a small opinion on them.
First and foremost QC and consistency is a lot better on the m30. Everything feels absolutely solid and buttons feel very consistent.
The retrobit on the other hand all the buttons feel slightly different, the z and c buttons being more mushy on my unit. If you don't tap them from their sweet spot it will feel very short throw mushy and poor.
The retrobit has an actual pivot, and is a lot more accurate when it comes to motion inputs in my testing. It's very responsive and very good. Problem with the dpad is the same as the button, it feels very inconsistent when you click around the edges, it's just not as big of a problem when you're using it as a pseudo joystick. This has a looser feeling dpad as well, not sure if it matches the Xbox m30 in that category but it's nice.
The m30 feels a bit smoother in shmups despite not having a pivot it feels better in a 360 degree space. Problem is it's very easy to trigger center which can make you stop in place for a moment. This is less of a. Issue in fighting games where you're doing distinct inputs and not constantly rolling a ship around.
Shoulder and trigger buttons are probably the best part of the retrobit Saturn pro, they feel fine compared to the other buttons but you can't map RS and LS.
The non Xbox m30 only has shoulder buttons and they are high quality. You don't have space for RS and LS so it's moot.
The retrobit Saturn pro has connectivity issues in xinput, steam doesn't seem to detect triggers in dinput mode. It's a weird problem.
The m30 works flawlessly in Bluetooth mode using xinput.
Can you review the gamesir G7?
Imagine using this on the retron 5
Does anything know if this works for Tekken 8 on pc?
Yes
Well that thing just looks stupid in all accounts.
Really great in depth review! I’m glad you covered the dpad. 8bitdo drives me nuts with their dpads. I hate that you can push the middle of the dpad down. On an actual genesis controller it has a pivot so you can’t push the middle down. I have a Bluetooth M30, wanted to see if the Xbox version was any better.