Great review folks! I got my '22 Rav4 Hybrid XLE from Thronhill Toyota in April after ordering it in December. I switched from a 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee and can't be happier with a 3 fold fuel saving. My Rav4 is averaging 5.6L combined ! I had a Corolla crossed pre-ordered and was on the fence between the two. I canceled my cross after it landed in the dealership.
Would love to see more of these cross-category comparisons. It’s hard to decide between a sub-compact and a compact when you don’t have a big family. Oftentimes the sub-compact will do, but you get more available features with the bigger car, so it’s nice to see a comparison that addresses the pros and cons of each. Fingers crossed that when the new Niro is released you do a comparison between that and the new Sportage HEV/PHEV. Both of those look very compelling.
The cross is plenty big, if you don't need much room in the rear seat, or the trunk. A family with a lot of cargo would have to check if that's enough for them.
A brilliant comparison. I think the RAV4’s biggest competitor (formally the Honda CRV) is, in fact, now the Corolla Cross. And I predict that the Corolla Cross will outsell the RAV4. I think Toyota has drummed up enough press/attention/social media presence while providing quite the value proposition, especially because they are so reasonably close in size. They’ve got a winner. Thanks for the video.
I have the Corolla Cross and it has been great for suburban and urban driving. It's very good to those speeds, and gets to highway speed, but that's all it can do. Enough for its customers, if they're honest. A bit noisy above 80km/h but it's got quieter after 10,000km. Didn't want a car as large as the RAV4. I thought they'd have sold better if the hybrid was available right away. They should have had that available from the start. Lexus UX is the same platform but has had the hybrid for a couple of years already so there's no reason CC didn't.
I have a 2020 Rav4 Hybrid and plan to get my high voltage cable inspected before my warranty is up. I'm in southern Ontario and while we don't get much snow here they do pour a lot of salt on the roads at even a hint of icy/snowy weather. Come on Toyota do the right thing! It's a high voltage cable that powers the rear electric motors of the hybrid system. It should be covered under the hybrid system warranty of 8 years or 160,000 km (in Canada).
Just curious: what kind of milage do you get with it in the winter? Got my Le hybrid a few weeks ago. Summer milage is beating my expectations very easily.
Great informative reviews again Zack and Andrea. Engine noise? The hybrid engine utilises an Atkinson Cycle design. It is lower compression by design meaning less power but in its operation the camshaft closes the inlet valve after the piston passes bottom dead centre resulting in a quieter operation. This is why they get phenomenal fuel savings. The Aisin transmission also has a launch gear before the cvt kicks in resulting in better performance and further improving fuel economy and reliability. Win win and win.
The exhaust systems in Toyotas are usually set up to get noticeably louder after 4,000 RPM. I think they do this on purpose to discourage drivers from utilizing the higher RPM range, thus potentiating a longer life engine. Higher RPMs sometimes causing problems of overheating a very specific area in a head or engine block.
One, Corolla cross’s size. 2, both vehicles are great. But bad news to Toyota for not cover this cable and they are not very nice for not pay to to cover this cable. Great video guys!
Love the video. I actually cross shopped the Corrola Cross and the Rav4 hybrid. I landed on the Rav 4 because it's fuel economy and more proven platform. I found the Corrola Cross to be pokey even in city driving, but I liked the size, simple but elegent interior and driving experience otherwise from the slow poke engine. I think you have to be hammering the throttle to get 6l/100km. Take your timeline and you will easily beat the epa rating(especially in the city). I think I get around 6l per 100km doing about 110km per hour on a 4 lane with the cruise control on(never did an actual test). I do get 5.5l/100km or better driving 90km/h on country roads and some small town driving. And they only get better in the city. The vehicle does like a calm accelerator, but as I discovered it has lots of power when you ask for it. My engine was noisy when it was brand new, but now with 1300km it has quieted down noticeably. As far the cable goes, someone told me that they improved the cable for 22(no idea if this is true or not), but I'm still going to get annual Krown treatment for it.
When the day eventually comes to replace my Vibe, the RAV4 Hybrid is top of the list. As I have taken the Vibe to Krown every year and completed all the other preventative maintenance, the date of replacement is still some years away.
@@rightlanehog3151 The Vibes with the 1.8 litre were a great vehicle. The Corrolla Cross is a very near miss in my view. If they offered the 2.4 litre from the Rav4, it would be really tough to say no to. I think it was a miss also not to use the Rav4 hybrid system in the Corrola Cross. It capable of getting better gas milage, as seen when it's used on the Camry Hybrid.
@@ghenry85 Yes, the 2.5 and 2.5 Hybrid system for the Cross is the obvious choice. I don't know how Toyota blew that one. As things stand, the RAV4 Hybrid just makes more sense. Having said that, I would like to see the upgraded 2.5 -245 hp Hybrid system from the Sienna/Highlander available on the RAV4. It seems like there is no penalty in fuel economy yet a nice boost in power. 😁
@@rightlanehog3151 Even just as an option, it would have an audience for sure Thr 219hp in the Rav4 hybrid is laid back(doesn't like to accelerate fast), but it has alot of power in reserve.
2:00 good idea, but for families it would have been helpful to put a stroller or 2 weeks of groceris in the cargo space and a couple of car seats in the second seat row to really have an idea whic vehicle would fit their needs.
When I was shopping for a new vehicle recently, the Toyota Sales didn't even show me a gasoline RAV4. he took me directly to the Hybrid RAV4 then to the Venza. It is almost like Toyota doesn't even want to sell gasoline only vehicles anymore.
The RAV is for the US market, but one thing I find interesting is Japan uses less corrosive salts for their roads than the US and Canada. Magnesium chloride in particular is horrible stuff, while Japan uses calcium chloride which is much less corrosive than even regular rock salt and in cities often carbonated sprinklers. This may be why Japanese cars often struggle with rust despite being engineered in a snowy country.
Great review. I love the RAV4 hybrid awd but the are hard to come by. Any way Toyota could put a skid plate on the hybrid to protect the cables. You two have the best job.
Nice review. Owner of both a 2022 Rav4 Hybrid and a 2022 Corolla Cross AWD. It's sort of a Corolla and Camry comparison really, what do you need? The Hybrid is nicer to drive for sure, ample power and great efficiency. The Cross is simpler and the proven mechanical AWD which can split 50:50 to send almost 85HP to the rear wheels is likely to be superior to the Rav 4 rear motor AWD system which is only 54HP maximum at the rear. No traction battery and associated motors + electrics on the Cross, but a complex direct shift CVT versus Hybrid's simple planetary gears. The Cross Hybrid will be electric rear drive? Hopefully if so the rear cable is better located and/or protected than the Rav4's. Cross is slower and typically noisier because there is no electric boost on acceleration. Plus, no engine cover or hood insulation on the Cross, but you could buy and add those yourself. Being Toyota, they should both be reliable and long lasting. The higher optioned Cross will cost more than entry level Rav4. Now that's a quandary.
Thanks for talking about the cablegate. I have a 2021 Rav4 Hybrid and I live in Quebec City. It’s a matter of time before I have that problem too. One of the earliest case that I saw is 3 years 2 months with only 52 000km.
@Sylvain Alain can't you get the dealer to drill a hole in some part that allows drainage and avoids the cable problem? At least that is what I heard. We don't get that here in California but I thought there was a ghetto kind of fix. Ask your dealer!
I wish Toyota would take a lot more cues from their Mazda partnership... You get into a CX-5 from 2017-current comparing trim line to trim line to a conventional Rav4, and the differences are very obvious in Mazda's favor... Have owned plenty of both brands, worked professional Toyota service, but lately Toyota IMO and experience is using up a lot of their previous generally well earned reputation.
I am not sure why hybrid wasn't offered right away since the Lexus UX250 is the same platform with that hybrid powertrain already for a few years. CCs re being delivered quickly (mine was less than 6 weeks) but I'm in a big city and seen fewer than half a dozen in the past 6 months. They'd have been very popular as hybrid.
I currently have a 2021 RAV 4 Prime. It's great. But I wouldn't mind seeing a Corolla Cross Plug-In Hybrid come to market. Toyota can do better than combined 37 MPG for the Corolla Cross Hybrid. The Corolla Cross Hybrid is about 700 lbs lighter than the RAV 4 Hybrid, so can definitely get better fuel economy.
Currently drive Rav 4 2.5l 6 speed auto. For our needs good size & power. For not much more that Cross when time to trade in current Rav4 will get another one. Good review. 👍😎🇨🇦
I came here on the fence between the Cross hybrid and the RAV4 hybrid. Will definitely still like to test drive them both, but I feel confident in saying the RAV4 hybrid is where I’m leaning right now
Been on the fence between RAV4 Hybrid and Corolla Cross Hybrid and learned RAV4 is a little better fuel efficiency, but Corolla Cross is a little smaller, which I would assume is easier to drive around in the city with tight corners (and parallel parking), and also cheaper.
hahaha, the "used car alternative" is a 3 year old Rav4 XSE hybrid with 57,000km for $42,590. Meanwhile the exact same model brand new has an MSRP of $40,790. As someone with a deposit on a Rav4 limited hybrid, I can confirm that this is the reality we live in. Downside is a 2 year wait list
RAV4 XSE Prime with the Premium package is the best vehicle on the road. Very difficult to get now. I bought mine Nov 2021. Very Happy. I would have liked the height adjustable passenger seat. I will be looking at the concept to retro-fit the new 2023 entertainment system as the 2021-2022 version has some limitations and a few software bugs.
I live in Europe Toyota doesn’t sell pure CVTs anymore so the regular Cross is out. It’s a race between better performance RAV4 vs cross hybrid that is better equipped. It appears the trunk space isn’t large enough to matter. It will all depend on the price
I haven't test driven a RAV 4 but when I sat in one at the dealership, I did not like the hard seats. The one in the highest trim was better with the softex seats but come on, soft comfortable seats should be standard. Subaru's blows away Toyota in this department.
Are the Subaru's seats better? I have a 22 Camry Se, w/soft tec seats. The driver's seat is killing me after 30 min. I will have to trade it in and take a loss. I thought the Corolla Cross seemed more comfortable, but have yet to look at Subaru. Any thought?
@@staceys1870You should have definitely visited different dealership and sat in the various vehicles before buying. Subarus do have comfortable seats and the softex ones really impressed me that I told the sales man I didn't want to get out of car which was the Crosstrek. Nissan Rogue felt nice and Honda Civic and CRV also Toyota, not so great with soft seats. Sat in your Camry also so I know how you feel. Some people has butts that don't car about bad seats so it depends on you and them. Good luck!
@@Flying-Fox19 yes, and I am in 100% agreement! ☺️ I think I’ve sat in so many, my head is spinning. I’m going to try to rent a Subaru this week for a day. Once I rent it, I’ll let you know! Thank you!!
My wife and I checked out both at the Auto Show in San Diego and found all the Toyota offerings to have uncomfortable seats. My neighbor's wife insisted they buy a Highlander. They both hate the seats after a year.
No stock for any RAV4 Hybrid, wait time 12-24 months. Likely the same situation for any Corolla Cross Hybrid either. There is NO, absolute NO supply of RAV4 Prime in Ontario.
The RAV4 PHEV is right for me, but you can't buy one at a price which makes sense... Even at MSRP it should have been $2000~$3000 cheaper. Seems like the Tucson PHEV may make more sense for mostly in-town trips.
I'm not surprise that the Rav4 has a better fuel economy than the Corolla cross. It was the case too between the CRv and the HRv. I think smaller engine work harder.
glad that you finally mentionned the cable corrosion problem :) i'm in Quebec and I chose the gas model over the hybrid instead because of this pricy repair
Love Toyota, but I think the 2023 Mitsubishi Outland PHEV is the way to go, but it's not out yet and I hope you'll do another review on the 2023 when it arrives.
Great news you’re warning your subscribers about the corrosion issue ! Thanks for sharing that info up front 💪✌️ Vancouver has seen it’s share of cases also as the Midwest and New England 🤦♂️🤷♂️
Great review! Love your content! Keep up the good work! You can see the new updated infotainment system and digital combimeter on the press release room from Toyota (on EU). Waiting for when I can order the 2023 Rav4 Prime.
The price you list for the Corolla Cross LE AWD is $28,490, yet when I go online it lists it at $30,190! All in after taxes and delivery $37,487!!! Is Toyota marking up due to low production? I have heard recently Toyota is going to open the taps on production, does this mean the price will go back down to normal as inventory levels improve?
I don't know, I don't think the RAV4 gasoline version is any louder than other SUVs. Yes, you can hear the smooth engine if you floor the gas pedal, but driving it normally, I really don't notice any excessive noise. Nice vehicles built by Toyota.
I noticed the RAV4 Hybrid got better fuel rating than the Corolla Cross Hybrid but I wonder what how the real world milage will match up in cold weather. Since the cabin heat for these vehicles comes from the gasoline engine, it could very well be that the Corolla Cross Hybrid will get better milage in cold weather since it will burn less fuel to heat the cabin than the RAV4 Hybrid. Time and testing will tell.
Well said Zack, the made-in-Canada RAV4 Hybrid is the standout in the compact CUV category. Toyota will figure out a solution to the high voltage cable issue and then drivers will go back to fully enjoying their more spacious, more powerful and more EFFICIENT RAV4 Hybrid. The comparatively poor fuel efficiency of the Cross can be blamed entirely on Toyota's decision to use the undersized and over-stressed 2.0 Corolla engine in a vehicle that weighs just as much as a Camry. Finally, the Corolla Cross Hybrid shown in last month's previews has no room for a space saver spare tire which is another major drawback. The RAV4 Hybrid can accommodate a full-size spare if owners are not satisfied with the temporary spare that comes with every model. 😁
Unfortunately Toyota so far hasnt done anything to permanently fix the corrosion of the voltage cable issue. & the warranty for it falls under an only 3year or 36k miles. & the fix is $5k - $7k!
@@jxmar_ Yes, I was fully aware of that. Did you know there are also places where the RAV4 and Camry come with the 2.0? Luckily Toyota knows better and put the right engine in ours. As the Cross weighs as much as a basic Camry and costs about as much, it too should have received the 2.5 for Hybrid and non-Hybrid applications.
Except for Camry and Highlander, hybrid has always been the "default" choice in Toyota model range. RAV4, Corolla sedan and Corolla Cross's regular engines are too noisy. The same goes for the Lexus UX. The same reason why they have dropped base engine in flavor of hybrid only in Canada.
Corolla cross is supposed to be more affordable? Msrp is 22-24k depending on trim, and rav4 msrp is 27-30k. The prices I’ve been seeing are 30k for Corolla cross and 32k for rav4. So although Corolla cross on average would be cheaper by 1-3k, it’s marked up 6-8k from msrp rather than rav4 makeup is under 6k, on average
I have the Cross which vin number beginning with 7, Made in Oceania . They interior quality same as the domestic car like 90’s, very bad. Never expect 2022 still has poor quality interior for Toyota and ship all the way from Oceania to canada
Great review folks! I got my '22 Rav4 Hybrid XLE from Thronhill Toyota in April after ordering it in December. I switched from a 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee and can't be happier with a 3 fold fuel saving. My Rav4 is averaging 5.6L combined ! I had a Corolla crossed pre-ordered and was on the fence between the two. I canceled my cross after it landed in the dealership.
I agree with Zac, Toyota defs makes the louder engine to add attraction to the more quiet hybrid…that’s a clever af
Would love to see more of these cross-category comparisons. It’s hard to decide between a sub-compact and a compact when you don’t have a big family. Oftentimes the sub-compact will do, but you get more available features with the bigger car, so it’s nice to see a comparison that addresses the pros and cons of each. Fingers crossed that when the new Niro is released you do a comparison between that and the new Sportage HEV/PHEV. Both of those look very compelling.
The cross is plenty big, if you don't need much room in the rear seat, or the trunk. A family with a lot of cargo would have to check if that's enough for them.
A brilliant comparison. I think the RAV4’s biggest competitor (formally the Honda CRV) is, in fact, now the Corolla Cross. And I predict that the Corolla Cross will outsell the RAV4. I think Toyota has drummed up enough press/attention/social media presence while providing quite the value proposition, especially because they are so reasonably close in size. They’ve got a winner. Thanks for the video.
This really helped me decide. Was originally planning to get the cross due to the price but I"ve go a 2020 Rav 4 selling less 30k. Got a bigger space
I have the Corolla Cross and it has been great for suburban and urban driving. It's very good to those speeds, and gets to highway speed, but that's all it can do. Enough for its customers, if they're honest. A bit noisy above 80km/h but it's got quieter after 10,000km. Didn't want a car as large as the RAV4.
I thought they'd have sold better if the hybrid was available right away. They should have had that available from the start.
Lexus UX is the same platform but has had the hybrid for a couple of years already so there's no reason CC didn't.
Watching now from the Philippines, I'm from Vancouver too. More power to this couple and to their channel.
I agree with you on this theory of making noisy Rav4 gas version
"Why should we improve it? It's already a huge seller." -- That's some top level GM/Chrysler/Ford thinking right there.,
RAV4 Hybrid. Great video comparison 👍
I have a 2020 Rav4 Hybrid and plan to get my high voltage cable inspected before my warranty is up. I'm in southern Ontario and while we don't get much snow here they do pour a lot of salt on the roads at even a hint of icy/snowy weather. Come on Toyota do the right thing! It's a high voltage cable that powers the rear electric motors of the hybrid system. It should be covered under the hybrid system warranty of 8 years or 160,000 km (in Canada).
Mine is failing, and I live in Toronto. AM radio interference. No full car shutdowns, yet…
A friend of mine has a 2021 RAV4 hybrid and loves it.
Thanks for the comparison. I still love my 2020 Rav4 Hybrid XLE and I'm not having the "Cable-Gate" issue living in Ottawa. Keep up the good work!
Just curious: what kind of milage do you get with it in the winter? Got my Le hybrid a few weeks ago. Summer milage is beating my expectations very easily.
@@ghenry85 I get closer to 7L/100km in the winter but 5.6L/100km in the summer. The engine comes on more when it's -35C out.
@@Gman450a1 That's still pretty good. My old car(chev cruze) got about the same.
Great informative reviews again Zack and Andrea.
Engine noise? The hybrid engine utilises an Atkinson Cycle design. It is lower compression by design meaning less power but in its operation the camshaft closes the inlet valve after the piston passes bottom dead centre resulting in a quieter operation. This is why they get phenomenal fuel savings. The Aisin transmission also has a launch gear before the cvt kicks in resulting in better performance and further improving fuel economy and reliability. Win win and win.
RAV4 hybrid is awesome !! Hello from upstate New York, You guys are awesome
The exhaust systems in Toyotas are usually set up to get noticeably louder after 4,000 RPM. I think they do this on purpose to discourage drivers from utilizing the higher RPM range, thus potentiating a longer life engine.
Higher RPMs sometimes causing problems of overheating a very specific area in a head or engine block.
toyota is cutting cost in sound deadening department, thats all it is.
I got my Brandnew RAV4 XLE high Hybrid today, I love it 🥰 thanks to my honey 😘❤
One, Corolla cross’s size. 2, both vehicles are great. But bad news to Toyota for not cover this cable and they are not very nice for not pay to to cover this cable. Great video guys!
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Love the video. I actually cross shopped the Corrola Cross and the Rav4 hybrid. I landed on the Rav 4 because it's fuel economy and more proven platform. I found the Corrola Cross to be pokey even in city driving, but I liked the size, simple but elegent interior and driving experience otherwise from the slow poke engine.
I think you have to be hammering the throttle to get 6l/100km. Take your timeline and you will easily beat the epa rating(especially in the city). I think I get around 6l per 100km doing about 110km per hour on a 4 lane with the cruise control on(never did an actual test). I do get 5.5l/100km or better driving 90km/h on country roads and some small town driving. And they only get better in the city. The vehicle does like a calm accelerator, but as I discovered it has lots of power when you ask for it.
My engine was noisy when it was brand new, but now with 1300km it has quieted down noticeably.
As far the cable goes, someone told me that they improved the cable for 22(no idea if this is true or not), but I'm still going to get annual Krown treatment for it.
When the day eventually comes to replace my Vibe, the RAV4 Hybrid is top of the list. As I have taken the Vibe to Krown every year and completed all the other preventative maintenance, the date of replacement is still some years away.
@@rightlanehog3151 The Vibes with the 1.8 litre were a great vehicle.
The Corrolla Cross is a very near miss in my view. If they offered the 2.4 litre from the Rav4, it would be really tough to say no to. I think it was a miss also not to use the Rav4 hybrid system in the Corrola Cross. It capable of getting better gas milage, as seen when it's used on the Camry Hybrid.
@@ghenry85 Yes, the 2.5 and 2.5 Hybrid system for the Cross is the obvious choice. I don't know how Toyota blew that one. As things stand, the RAV4 Hybrid just makes more sense. Having said that, I would like to see the upgraded 2.5 -245 hp Hybrid system from the Sienna/Highlander available on the RAV4. It seems like there is no penalty in fuel economy yet a nice boost in power. 😁
@@rightlanehog3151 Even just as an option, it would have an audience for sure
Thr 219hp in the Rav4 hybrid is laid back(doesn't like to accelerate fast), but it has alot of power in reserve.
@@ghenry85 By this time you would know the Cross Hybrid has 194 HP. No need for the 2.4l engine.
I have just bought a 2023 Corolla Cross Awd. A very nice car, and much cheaper then a RAV 4 in Norway.
Both are good choices, but I would be looking at the Rav4.
2:00 good idea, but for families it would have been helpful to put a stroller or 2 weeks of groceris in the cargo space and a couple of car seats in the second seat row to really have an idea whic vehicle would fit their needs.
Corolla still keep that old school useful practical reliable charm and RAV4 is best all purpose crossover
When I was shopping for a new vehicle recently, the Toyota Sales didn't even show me a gasoline RAV4. he took me directly to the Hybrid RAV4 then to the Venza. It is almost like Toyota doesn't even want to sell gasoline only vehicles anymore.
The RAV is for the US market, but one thing I find interesting is Japan uses less corrosive salts for their roads than the US and Canada. Magnesium chloride in particular is horrible stuff, while Japan uses calcium chloride which is much less corrosive than even regular rock salt and in cities often carbonated sprinklers. This may be why Japanese cars often struggle with rust despite being engineered in a snowy country.
Corolla cross hybrid. The yellow is an awesome color. Great pricee
Great review. I love the RAV4 hybrid awd but the are hard to come by. Any way Toyota could put a skid plate on the hybrid to protect the cables. You two have the best job.
The RAV4 is much bigger these day, have one , might consider switching to the Cross. I didn’t realize the size prior to purchase.
Nice review. Owner of both a 2022 Rav4 Hybrid and a 2022 Corolla Cross AWD. It's sort of a Corolla and Camry comparison really, what do you need? The Hybrid is nicer to drive for sure, ample power and great efficiency. The Cross is simpler and the proven mechanical AWD which can split 50:50 to send almost 85HP to the rear wheels is likely to be superior to the Rav 4 rear motor AWD system which is only 54HP maximum at the rear. No traction battery and associated motors + electrics on the Cross, but a complex direct shift CVT versus Hybrid's simple planetary gears. The Cross Hybrid will be electric rear drive? Hopefully if so the rear cable is better located and/or protected than the Rav4's. Cross is slower and typically noisier because there is no electric boost on acceleration. Plus, no engine cover or hood insulation on the Cross, but you could buy and add those yourself. Being Toyota, they should both be reliable and long lasting. The higher optioned Cross will cost more than entry level Rav4. Now that's a quandary.
Can't wait for the comparison between the hybrid options of these cars
Thanks for talking about the cablegate. I have a 2021 Rav4 Hybrid and I live in Quebec City. It’s a matter of time before I have that problem too. One of the earliest case that I saw is 3 years 2 months with only 52 000km.
@Sylvain Alain can't you get the dealer to drill a hole in some part that allows drainage and avoids the cable problem? At least that is what I heard. We don't get that here in California but I thought there was a ghetto kind of fix. Ask your dealer!
I wish Toyota would take a lot more cues from their Mazda partnership... You get into a CX-5 from 2017-current comparing trim line to trim line to a conventional Rav4, and the differences are very obvious in Mazda's favor... Have owned plenty of both brands, worked professional Toyota service, but lately Toyota IMO and experience is using up a lot of their previous generally well earned reputation.
I am not sure why hybrid wasn't offered right away since the Lexus UX250 is the same platform with that hybrid powertrain already for a few years. CCs re being delivered quickly (mine was less than 6 weeks) but I'm in a big city and seen fewer than half a dozen in the past 6 months. They'd have been very popular as hybrid.
RAV4 hybrid is awesome!
Which car are they sitting in? I love the panaromic sunroof!
I currently have a 2021 RAV 4 Prime. It's great. But I wouldn't mind seeing a Corolla Cross Plug-In Hybrid come to market. Toyota can do better than combined 37 MPG for the Corolla Cross Hybrid. The Corolla Cross Hybrid is about 700 lbs lighter than the RAV 4 Hybrid, so can definitely get better fuel economy.
Always an enjoyable and informative video. You guys nail it every time. Nice job!
4:22 I'm with you on this one!
Currently drive Rav 4 2.5l 6 speed auto. For our needs good size & power. For not much more that Cross when time to trade in current Rav4 will get another one. Good review. 👍😎🇨🇦
No brainer Rav4 hybrid over Corolla Cross hybrid.
I came here on the fence between the Cross hybrid and the RAV4 hybrid. Will definitely still like to test drive them both, but I feel confident in saying the RAV4 hybrid is where I’m leaning right now
Been on the fence between RAV4 Hybrid and Corolla Cross Hybrid and learned RAV4 is a little better fuel efficiency, but Corolla Cross is a little smaller, which I would assume is easier to drive around in the city with tight corners (and parallel parking), and also cheaper.
Does Toyota have a fix planned for the rusting cables? (To prevent the issue?) Or do they just replace them? Thanks for all the info!
Lovely comparison video, really like that green colour of the Cross, sadly the corolla cross isn't available yet in the UK. Great job.
Love RAV4 Hybrid. Great car. However, I drive in TX, so not in that cold.
Thanks for addressing the cable issue. It is a big deal. Also, the roof racks are prone to leaking, even with the new foam plugs.
so hard to pick love both of those cars
Hi dear friend i love your interview 😊. waiting for my new corolla cross , instead my chr .i wish you all the best.
On this side of the pond (SEA), the Corolla Cross Hybrid is around 39.4k CAD
is that with a 2.0l or 1.8l
@@mikej238 1.8
hahaha, the "used car alternative" is a 3 year old Rav4 XSE hybrid with 57,000km for $42,590. Meanwhile the exact same model brand new has an MSRP of $40,790.
As someone with a deposit on a Rav4 limited hybrid, I can confirm that this is the reality we live in. Downside is a 2 year wait list
Is it worth to wait on waiting list for Toyota RAV4 hybrid xle?
Thanks for this comparison! I was considering looking at both but sounds like Rav4 hybrid is the way to go
order now! For next summer 😆
on 2nd rav4 never found the rav loud love the toyota brand
RAV4 XSE Prime with the Premium package is the best vehicle on the road. Very difficult to get now. I bought mine Nov 2021. Very Happy. I would have liked the height adjustable passenger seat. I will be looking at the concept to retro-fit the new 2023 entertainment system as the 2021-2022 version has some limitations and a few software bugs.
I live in Europe Toyota doesn’t sell pure CVTs anymore so the regular Cross is out. It’s a race between better performance RAV4 vs cross hybrid that is better equipped. It appears the trunk space isn’t large enough to matter. It will all depend on the price
I haven't test driven a RAV 4 but when I sat in one at the dealership, I did not like the hard seats. The one in the highest trim was better with the softex seats but come on, soft comfortable seats should be standard. Subaru's blows away Toyota in this department.
Are the Subaru's seats better? I have a 22 Camry Se, w/soft tec seats. The driver's seat is killing me after 30 min. I will have to trade it in and take a loss. I thought the Corolla Cross seemed more comfortable, but have yet to look at Subaru. Any thought?
@@staceys1870You should have definitely visited different dealership and sat in the various vehicles before buying. Subarus do have comfortable seats and the softex ones really impressed me that I told the sales man I didn't want to get out of car which was the Crosstrek. Nissan Rogue felt nice and Honda Civic and CRV also
Toyota, not so great with soft seats. Sat in your Camry also so I know how you feel. Some people has butts that don't car about bad seats so it depends on you and them. Good luck!
@@Flying-Fox19 yes, and I am in 100% agreement! ☺️ I think I’ve sat in so many, my head is spinning. I’m going to try to rent a Subaru this week for a day. Once I rent it, I’ll let you know! Thank you!!
Yes,
Another great view
Thank you👌
I like to see venza vs rav4 too
My wife and I checked out both at the Auto Show in San Diego and found all the Toyota offerings to have uncomfortable seats. My neighbor's wife insisted they buy a Highlander. They both hate the seats after a year.
No stock for any RAV4 Hybrid, wait time 12-24 months. Likely the same situation for any Corolla Cross Hybrid either. There is NO, absolute NO supply of RAV4 Prime in Ontario.
Corrola Cross will be built in the USA. No way they will introduce a new car and tell you to wait for a year.
i wanted a 2023 hybrid cross but the problem is I need a car now. Is it possible to trade in after 1 year?
Do the Hybrid comparison now.
Would like to see a comparison between cross xse and rav4 when it comes out.
The RAV4 PHEV is right for me, but you can't buy one at a price which makes sense...
Even at MSRP it should have been $2000~$3000 cheaper. Seems like the Tucson PHEV may make more sense for mostly in-town trips.
I am about to buy either a Toyota Cross or Rav4, now I can not decide on which one to buy, as I am the only driver and not hard on any vehicle.
I'm not surprise that the Rav4 has a better fuel economy than the Corolla cross. It was the case too between the CRv and the HRv. I think smaller engine work harder.
Hi, when will you do the rav4 xle review be done? thanks
Do you think that they will have more Corolla crossover’s available in the future every dealership I’ve gone to doesn’t even have one to test drive
Great review!
glad that you finally mentionned the cable corrosion problem :) i'm in Quebec and I chose the gas model over the hybrid instead because of this pricy repair
Did I miss the rear seating section..?
Hi, the 2023 Toyota models are now up on the Toyota site with new pricing, up 3.3% for the XLE, when might you review the 2023 XLE?
Love Toyota, but I think the 2023 Mitsubishi Outland PHEV is the way to go, but it's not out yet and I hope you'll do another review on the 2023 when it arrives.
Great news you’re warning your subscribers about the corrosion issue ! Thanks for sharing that info up front 💪✌️
Vancouver has seen it’s share of cases also as the Midwest and New England 🤦♂️🤷♂️
12 month wait for a Rav 4 Hybrid in Canada....you will get a 23 but price won't even be finalized if you order one.
8:25 I paid the same price for my 2019 limited hybrid model in April 2021 with only 36600 km. Sheesh!
U guys are awesome
Best reviews and honest opinions
Great content ❤️🇨🇦
what car are you guys sitting in
No I don’t think engine noise factors in when most people buy a car because it’s a nice Color………….
Great review! Love your content! Keep up the good work! You can see the new updated infotainment system and digital combimeter on the press release room from Toyota (on EU).
Waiting for when I can order the 2023 Rav4 Prime.
Thanks
The price you list for the Corolla Cross LE AWD is $28,490, yet when I go online it lists it at $30,190! All in after taxes and delivery $37,487!!! Is Toyota marking up due to low production? I have heard recently Toyota is going to open the taps on production, does this mean the price will go back down to normal as inventory levels improve?
The prices online now have to include freight and delivery fees.
@@Motormouth...Thank you for your quick reply, The online price is before freight and delivery!
I have a Rav 4 Hybrid SE on order , test drove a regular ICE Cross, I might switch my order depending on price and real MPG of a Cross Hybrid
I just got my Rav 4 Hybrid XSE and love it so far! You will be very happy! :)
@@SeekingYahweh yes....next summer 😆
Only if i can get my hands one of these :’O
Thank you!
I don't know, I don't think the RAV4 gasoline version is any louder than other SUVs. Yes, you can hear the smooth engine if you floor the gas pedal, but driving it normally, I really don't notice any excessive noise. Nice vehicles built by Toyota.
Sadly, you can add $8-10k more per base price to Puerto Rico, to the USA prices. It’s a very sad thing.
I noticed the RAV4 Hybrid got better fuel rating than the Corolla Cross Hybrid but I wonder what how the real world milage will match up in cold weather. Since the cabin heat for these vehicles comes from the gasoline engine, it could very well be that the Corolla Cross Hybrid will get better milage in cold weather since it will burn less fuel to heat the cabin than the RAV4 Hybrid. Time and testing will tell.
The mileage estimate is not from the EPA it's just a manufacturer estimate.
Well said Zack, the made-in-Canada RAV4 Hybrid is the standout in the compact CUV category. Toyota will figure out a solution to the high voltage cable issue and then drivers will go back to fully enjoying their more spacious, more powerful and more EFFICIENT RAV4 Hybrid. The comparatively poor fuel efficiency of the Cross can be blamed entirely on Toyota's decision to use the undersized and over-stressed 2.0 Corolla engine in a vehicle that weighs just as much as a Camry. Finally, the Corolla Cross Hybrid shown in last month's previews has no room for a space saver spare tire which is another major drawback. The RAV4 Hybrid can accommodate a full-size spare if owners are not satisfied with the temporary spare that comes with every model. 😁
Unfortunately Toyota so far hasnt done anything to permanently fix the corrosion of the voltage cable issue. & the warranty for it falls under an only 3year or 36k miles. & the fix is $5k - $7k!
@@finalboss7956 I think a class action lawsuit or two will motivate Toyota to fix the situation. 😉
You know we get the “faster” version of the cross right? Everywhere else gets the horrible 1.8L w like 139 HP🥴
@@jxmar_ Yes, I was fully aware of that. Did you know there are also places where the RAV4 and Camry come with the 2.0? Luckily Toyota knows better and put the right engine in ours. As the Cross weighs as much as a basic Camry and costs about as much, it too should have received the 2.5 for Hybrid and non-Hybrid applications.
….any thoughts on a plug in hybrid version of the Corolla Cross AWD in the future?
😆 you can't even get a Rav 4 Prime
@@mikej238 everyone knows that! I am just wondering if they planning on a “prime” version in the future when supply chains and other factors nomalise…
Your conspiracy theory is true. They do that to sell more hybrids because profitability on them is higher compared to gas models.
Except for Camry and Highlander, hybrid has always been the "default" choice in Toyota model range. RAV4, Corolla sedan and Corolla Cross's regular engines are too noisy. The same goes for the Lexus UX. The same reason why they have dropped base engine in flavor of hybrid only in Canada.
Corolla cross is supposed to be more affordable? Msrp is 22-24k depending on trim, and rav4 msrp is 27-30k. The prices I’ve been seeing are 30k for Corolla cross and 32k for rav4. So although Corolla cross on average would be cheaper by 1-3k, it’s marked up 6-8k from msrp rather than rav4 makeup is under 6k, on average
Can someone explain the math of the Corola Cross Hybrid... I don't get it lol
Zack Carplay and Andrea Auto.
The hybrids will be trouble free for 10 years. After that, the repair costs will be higher when they break
I live in South Carolina. I don't want a sun roof or 4 wheel drive. Let Scotty Kilmer start talking about that corrosion. They will fix it then
Wish they wouldn't have put a CVT in the Corolla.
What is wrong with a CVT in the Corolla Cross ??
I have the Cross which vin number beginning with 7, Made in Oceania . They interior quality same as the domestic car like 90’s, very bad. Never expect 2022 still has poor quality interior for Toyota and ship all the way from Oceania to canada
Canada gets theirs from the US , you still have the crappy 1.8l engine
OMG is Andrea saying ROV4?
the grill of the regular corolla cross has lonely appeal......i like the grill of the hybrid better
I have tried RAV4 and Kia Sorento. Result: bought Kia. Goodbye Toyota 👋
There are no good reasons to buy Hybrid.
Like EV? Buy EV.