Just turo’d one and drove it 460 miles, he is holding back, car has many flaws. Definitely do yourself a favor and rent this car beforehand. Flaw’s I cannot live with as a daily driver.
@@ChosenMJ yes my date is the 13th I am passing at this time. The yoke is annoying. Not that I couldn’t probably accept it , it’s just to darn wide! The list of things that I found on the LR s that I didn’t like was just to much.
This car costs $150,000? Wow! I think this would definitely be a viable alternative to my 27-year-old car with 425,000 miles. I think I need to test drive one. Great video!
A 3 sec 0-60 is fast enough for me so saved $40K and bought mS long range. For safety, I drive under 100mph so brakes and handling seem fine to me. There are no plans to race or enter a competition with car. Absolutely love white and upgraded wood interior. However, 11 month wait for my delivery was quite painful.
the crazy part with that is the LR is just a software limited 0-60 lol it could definitely hit 2.2/2.3 but that would cut to far into plaid sales tbh the new LR is beast and only has a tiny 1/4 mile difference (obv due to the locked 0-60) than the pre-refresh S Performance and taycan turbo s and beats both of those cars in their 60-130 numbers it’s a great value for what the previous gen performance models / 100D long ranges used to run. just sucks that they upped the price to 95k from its original 80k price
@@RepsTheLegend Yes, raising price sucks for most. But I bought back in early January when the price was very low so saved $20K over today’s price. My plan is to trade it in when they announce a 4680 model with two motors delivering 500+ miles.
I have a similar drive and it's all highway. Once fsd is out of beta I think I have to get one. I drive most of the day, if I could be sending emails or working on my laptop while going from customer to customer, my productivity will skyrocket. Also, it has proven its a much safer vehical then anything else on the road. Highest crash raiting and least amount of accidents per mile driven. Other cars don't evan come close.
i see you're a CPA. you know as well as i do, buying a highly depreciating asset like an EV isn't a smart financial decision. if you have a 20 mile round trip commute (10 miles each way), just get a quality used Toyota vehicle that will last you the next 10+ years mostly trouble free. and use the savings and invest in assets that will produce cash flow that you then could use to buy an EV down the road or something
The brake is only an issue if you are driving at 150 miles per hour, however, you do have the plaid which means you should have fun by driving fast with it. My friend installed the ceramic brake and they make a huge difference. Hurts the wallet though …
Yeah, having good brakes is like insurance though. If you're driving at those speeds often, you should definitely get ceramics because crashing is much more expensive than buying good brakes
@@gotchyeaaa yeah! Noticeable better! If money is not object, get it ! If you are only doing normal road driving, and May be hard on the wallet, the stock brake is fine. I rarely use the break for daily driving
I already trst drove it. That car defeats everything on the road while being fully electric. I never go off what a troll says to stir you in a certain direction. Models S Plaid is supreme.
Per the Tesla website, the Tesla S Plaid is $129990 in white without the wheel upgrade or full self driving. There are actually pretty decent looking wheels under the aero hubcaps. I agree the yoke is dumb.
Car and driver did a test of 0-150-0 and the plaid did it quicker than the quickest ICE (Porshe Turbo S). The Porsche did it in 19.3 seconds and the tesla in 16.2 seconds. The Sapphire was even quicker (15.5 seconds) but took longer than the Tesla to brake from 150.
Dude, 100% HONESTY is what viewers can appreciate. I'm a BMW guy and thoroughly unimpressed by the direction they're going with their EV lineup. We'll see what the future offers. But I'm subscribing based on your honesty alone.
I'm driving a 525 6cyl 3L bmw for 10 years. Just tested the new 530e (4cyl 2L) .. I was sooooo dissapointed! Bad drivetrain, no power.. really not bmw :((. Gonna get a tesla now
I’ve owned an X6M, X3M Comp and now drive an Alpina B7. As I’m considering going EV, I drove an I7 for about two weeks. This Tesla Model S Plaid definitely impressed me more than the I7. And the interior of the Model S Plaid is actually more impressive than any other Tesla I’ve seen. I’m really considering the Model S Plaid. Crazy for a BMW only guy! 🤔
Helpful info, thank you. I plan to get the Plaid in December of 2022, so the 2023 model. My hope is that by then they’ll have fixed the vibration issue, added bigger brakes, and maybe/hopefully added soft close doors.
didn't know I would miss soft close doors until i realized I had to pretty much SLAM the doors on the plaid. If 3rd parties release them, i will definitely install them
I use a yoke everyday on my Tesla, took about 3-4 hours of driving to be 100% used to, only reverse parking & big corners u miss a steering wheel, outside of this it makes driving 100% more fun!
Agree on brakes but the car handles pretty good . Also amazingly fast and the brake regeneration makes the brakes less important during normal driving .,
Tesla model s normal ( not plaid ) White colour 21 inch alloys White interior Normal steering wheel Aftermarket upgrade Red calipers Blacked out Chrome badges It would be best for me i guess
Remove the plastic covers, until you get the custom wheels they are serviceable. ...Its a Sports Utility Sedan. Don't even think about trademarking "Sports Utility Sedan" I already did. I am putting Vossen wheels on my 19's
Compared to other manufacturers Tesla do lack that last piece of quality. Be it panel gaps paint etc. However the technology they have is miles ahead of anyone else. airbags so advanced that seatbelts are obsolete. A sterile air mode that effectively allows you to drive through bio hazards. Best sound system in the world utilising the windscreen as a resonator. Most powerful ultrasonic radar system ever made. The list goes on. Yes I’m getting a plaid.
@@Montenegro651 bro that is also not true. Mercedes with the new eqs wiped the floor with tesla. Longer range, better quality, better infotainment system, way smaller turn circle, better and more innovative features (like self adjusting side mirrors) and much more. Tesla is a hype machine.
Have one of first ones since July. Impressive drivetrain, tech and interior. Agree with you on brakes somewhat. Bit scary but check the speeds first. When you slam brakes at +150 mph..., no other big sedan will behave much better. Handling is decent in advanced/low. Not $150k sport sedan handling (M5..), but decent still. Mine is with 21" wheels, that could help high-speed cornering vs. 19", maybe.
@@MichaelOrtega There is no issue... if your are not used to braking down from +100 mph any brakes feel slow and underpowered from that speed. There is nothing wrong with the brakes for normal road use. Just do not take it to a race track with the stock brakes.
If you have to slam the brakes from 150mph, then you have no business driving at those speeds. Let off way early and you'll minimize your need for the brakes. You could even stay wide to let cars pass, then immediately pass them coming out of the turn. Different driving style with a 5K lbs vehicle. Show me a race car that can stop weighing in at 5k lbs. that's why they use parachutes.
At least the cars in your garage is old. The Plaid will never be. It will be in the scrapyard within 3-4 years, mark my words. Quality is so bad it will break down on you. I think it looks quite bad too, has that granny car aura
its not a 150K car if you didnt buy the wheels lmao. have one in the garage. this video is a bunch of bullshit. got fsd and the wheels and somehow its still not a "150k car"
I often hit 145+ and occasionally 163 with zero braking issues. That's because I let off early and allow the regen to do all the braking. You're right, the brakes on the car is not made for a nearly 5k lbs car that hits crazy speeds so fast. Use better judgement and let off early and you'll have no issues slowing the car down. No brake dust and your brakes will last nearly forever. I rarely have to use my brakes. I only go fast if there's room to make combination passes and then I'm gone. Leave room, never tail gate, pull over and the fools speed into braking situations. Wait for combo pass openings then bam, seeyaaaaa. Of course this is only done if 1)Equipment is safe 2)Conditions are safe 3) No traffic cops(brainwashed wealth transfer infantry low lives)
I do agree the Model S is a bit too expensive... but I disagree with your reasoning about not to get the Model S. Why? Simple, this car is a SEDAN, not a sports car. If you want a real sports car from Tesla, wait for the Roadster to come out and pay an extra $100K on top of the price of the Model S. Should the Model S come with better brakes? Probably, but just face it, why would you go racing with this car knowing it is not meant to be a race car? Might be the fastest acceleration, but that is just part of the “fun” of getting a Tesla. Nothing to do with racing. I currently drive a 2022 Model 3 Performance, it is writhing my budget and I got it because I wanted to have a Model 3 that is fast and fun to drive. Do I plan to race with it? Nope. It has the Track mode, I have never used it and while I might test it for fun, most likely I will never use those functions. If one day my budget allows me to get a Model S, I probably will. Is it worth it? Like you said, probably not, but if I can afford it, why not? To race? Nope, just to have a nice sedan that can accelerate like a spaceship. Just for fun. Cheers
Upgrading the brakes are fairly easy. 1. Just upgrade to better(cooler) brake pads (very cheap). 2. New/larger brake calipers + better brake pads (gives decent results) 3. New/larger brake discs + brake calipers + brake pads (gives good results) Back in the days when ppl knew how to just upgrade those on their cars themself it was a cheap fix. Nowadays I guess few knows how to turn a wrench and needs to turn it in to a shop it might get a bit expensive. But if you know how to do some basic stuff on a car yourself. A Tesla is no different then other cars I have worked on. Guess the handling could be adjusted with software if a "racemode" similar to M3P is added that stiffen up the suspension a bit, extra swaybars are very cheap to add also though. This should do a good difference?
@@jimdandy9118 Nah, that is just going over the top. It's a family car with excellent acceleration. I guess the Roadster will be a real "race car". I agree on that it could and should have better brakes and maybe suspension. But concidering its a family car I do understand that it does not have it.
@@jimdandy9118 what MB did you have in mind? Mercedes EQS 580 4Matic? Cost twice as much as a Tesla Model S. Possible Better build quality but bad on track and slower than the Model S and less Tech(if we are talking speed and brakes). But I agree on it seems to be a fantastic and comfortable car, I could buy it just for the massaging chair's. Mercedes creates great cars, but there is no competitor in the Model S segment due to lack of tech and several other details. Or what car would you say is a perfect competitor to the S?
I have one, the brakes are actually very good, it’s just so fast that when you pass someone on the freeway for example you’re already on the speed limiter (163) in just a few seconds. I would recommend Tesla adds an adjustable spoiler on the back to help with braking from the speed this Plaid achieves. An aero kit and carbon ceramics on the Plaid will make it outperform almost any multi million dollar car even on the track (check Laguna Seca track times).
I gotta be honest. I'm not fan boy but alot of his gripes feel like he should have known this before he ordered this. This feels like he didn't do any due diligence to check these things. A test drive or visit to a tesla dealership really could have given him some insight.
This very optioned (white interior) Plaid is now $108K , not $150 . Maybe if u had the 21’ ($4,500) wheels the handling wud be much better . Also the round steering wheel is now a free option if u don’t prefer the yoke
Everybody has a Plaid these days. It's not really a special car when you see 5 of them every day, and it looks the same as it did a decade ago. Long in the tooth. People buy these, have some fun with them, get bored and sell them. The used car market is flooded with Plaids, which says a lot about their one hit wonder status and lack of special-ness.
?? Smart people realise what an engineering marvel it is to fit this much storage, luxury, tech and speed so they will definitely keep it and enjoy every second of it. Some kiddies who don't even know what's it supposed to be will sell it...
Tesla reinvented the steering wheel made it useless and unsafe to use. Ridiculous. This isn't a plane, the steering wheel in cars need to turn full circle and for that practical use, a circular steering wheel is much more intuitive to use.
This week I’ve tested the Porsche Taycan Turbo and the Model S Plaid. As much as I can appreciate a Porsche, the speed and power of the Model S Plaid is incomparable!!
I think the model S is much better than the taycan and I’m a Porsche guy. I love the S design and hatch. Not a fan of the taycan design and don’t like that it has a trunk vs hatch. Love the S minimalistic interior design. It’s a great overall car. For corner carving, that’s where the 911 comes into play. But for every day car, model S wins in my book.
I’ve had no issues with the yoke since day one. Thought I would swap it out but never did. All this “dangerous” talk is baffling. Doesn’t hit my legs and as for fast turning, not sure what the issue is there either.
Add a front lip, canards and a bit bigger rear lip spoiler for more stability at speed! Some side splitters and a rear diffuser would be cool too! Go full aero mode! Then upgrade to carbon ceramic brakes! Another $50-60k should get it about where you want it 😂
Didn't watch the video but the Plaid is the best car Ive ever owned. Finally, an American car with the power and traction to destroy the Germans, Italians and Japanese.
I love this car Tesla plaid s my favorite color is purple n black . N not a ravens fan but a Tampa buccaneers fan from day one . Two loosing seasons. Am hoping we go to da Super Bowl 2023. Let’s go
Personally I feel like the only selling point of this car is the performance. I don't see why else you'd buy a glorified 150k estate sedan. There are cheaper cars with better luxury options and more brand prestige. And there are cheaper cars that perform better all around (when I say all around I mean speed and handling, not just raw acceleration) so tbh I don't see the point of this car aside from it just being a flex for wealthy people. For all that just get a regular S or model 3 or X. Because you're really only paying for the performance and tech. And if you aren't gonna be drag racing or bringing it to the track then buying for the performance is pointless. And if it's just the luxury you want as previously stated there are cheaper cars that have more options. And the cars in it's price range are way more luxurious and have brand prestige. The Plaid is the iPhone of cars. It's just an unnecessary flex that has a single selling point: Camera/crazy acceleration.
Porsche makes outstanding cars. The suspension refinement, build quality, handling prowess, they're just a standard. So please respect Porsche. It doesn't flatter any car owner to disrespect such an accomplished and storied brand.
Good news, mid-2022 you can upgrade the Factory brakes from Tesla for only $20,000 more LOL LOL LOL. Now only $170k for the vehicle to get it to stop properly when using all of that hp.
Why do you have your seat positioned so far up? I have one and I'm a lot taller than you are. I don't have the issue you have. Try moving the seat back.
I’ve said this ever since I first got a P3, the brakes suck ass. It’s unfortunate that for the price you pay, you shouldn’t have to buy better aftermarket brakes. Tesla really needs to provide much better brakes that are capable of stopping the vehicle if you need to slam on them.
You gave Elon your hard earned cash and he just pissed in your face by providing a useless and dangerous car. Hope it is worth it, the one day per year you can outrun a teenager in a Honda civic at the red lights. The utter stupidity of Tesla drivers amazes me
You paid 150k for the 0-60 when you could have paid 3 million to get even less performance. Spend money to upgrade the brakes and quit bitching - geez. BTW how does the Plaid do so well on the Nurburgring - better than the Taycan? Lots of people buy performance cars and then spend a ton more money to upgrade them and STILL don't get close to this Plaid.
$150,000 😱😱😱 I just picked up a 2019 model s P100D with 37,200 miles for $54,500 or over 60% off a new plaid and what do you get for spending nearly $100,000 more than I did? I second faster 0-60 time which is great if you're on a racetrack I guess. I can't believe people actually spend so much more money then they have to. I could get close to 3 used model S performance cars for the same price as 1 new Plaid and in 2 years his plaid will be worth less than $100,000 while my model S will still be worth close to $60,000.
Now it's like 20k cheaper, you can get a normal steering wheel and the brakes are painted red and upgraded with higher thermal capacity (everyone knows red brakes stop the car faster) it's nice that they listen to costumers, also I think that the rear display got a lot bigger but I am not sure.
First reason. Plaid means CRAZY fast, but at the same time it's a sleeper. No extra bells or whistles to catch racers of guard Second reason. To taunt Porsches, look at me granny's car, but will kick your *** at any speed. Is that enough reasons Chandler? But if you want those extra bells and whistles by all mean put them on..
They're very different cars with very different purposes. And spoilers: lots of people ripping around in a 911 Turbo or GT3 on the public roads already own a Model S/X for the wifey or as their "regular" daily. If you can afford a purpose built high-end sports car, you can probably afford a 150K daily driver too... 😉 That said, you can def embarrass frat boys in a Cayenne or Macan who think they own the road cause Daddy bought them a 80K "sports SUV". But that's just doing the lord's work regardless of what car you do it in.
@@shammyh Must feel so nice to be a Tesla fanboy. Paying 150k just to smoke a teenager in a Honda Civic at the red lights once a year. And on top of that you get a car with bad breaks, poor build quality, degenerating battery, tech that have annoying bugs and looks like a granny car.
Thought those rims are designed to give you more range compared to the upgraded ones! There was another video where they were racing a Plaid at the track against other high end sports cars and they also complained about the long time it took to come to a stop. The breaking needs some work or a upgrade.
Dose it have a spare wheel ? Dose it stay changed when not in use or dose it lose charge which cost money ? Is it cheap to repair ? Dose it go for 400 miles on one full charge ? Dose it still require text message and 4/7 hours for assistance to arrive ?
Get the upgraded brakes on teslas site. Brakes are fine for normal use. Just like you can buy upgraded brakes for other cars. Also use track mode for better handling. For being a “fanboy” I would think you’d know this.
My advice to someone, go test drive it yourself and DO NOT LISTEN to folks or videos like this. 💯
He’s only doing it for the clicks….
@ I agree. 💯
Just turo’d one and drove it 460 miles, he is holding back, car has many flaws. Definitely do yourself a favor and rent this car beforehand. Flaw’s I cannot live with as a daily driver.
@@scottw595 Hey Scott, aren't you waiting for a delivery of one?
@@ChosenMJ yes my date is the 13th
I am passing at this time. The yoke is annoying. Not that I couldn’t probably accept it , it’s just to darn wide!
The list of things that I found on the LR s that I didn’t like was just to much.
This car costs $150,000? Wow! I think this would definitely be a viable alternative to my 27-year-old car with 425,000 miles. I think I need to test drive one. Great video!
A 3 sec 0-60 is fast enough for me so saved $40K and bought mS long range. For safety, I drive under 100mph so brakes and handling seem fine to me. There are no plans to race or enter a competition with car. Absolutely love white and upgraded wood interior. However, 11 month wait for my delivery was quite painful.
the crazy part with that is the LR is just a software limited 0-60 lol it could definitely hit 2.2/2.3 but that would cut to far into plaid sales tbh
the new LR is beast and only has a tiny 1/4 mile difference (obv due to the locked 0-60) than the pre-refresh S Performance and taycan turbo s and beats both of those cars in their 60-130 numbers it’s a great value for what the previous gen performance models / 100D long ranges used to run.
just sucks that they upped the price to 95k from its original 80k price
@@RepsTheLegend Yes, raising price sucks for most. But I bought back in early January when the price was very low so saved $20K over today’s price. My plan is to trade it in when they announce a 4680 model with two motors delivering 500+ miles.
@@johnpoldo8817 he doesn't plan on joining a race with an electric car? No F'in shit! It's a battery factory on wheels...piece of shit
There’s no replacement for displacement. Don’t kid yourself, 3rd motor is there for a reason. Software my arse.
I've been getting tempted by a Tesla. I have a 20 mile commute for work each day and a Tesla would be a fun car to commute in!
I have a similar drive and it's all highway. Once fsd is out of beta I think I have to get one. I drive most of the day, if I could be sending emails or working on my laptop while going from customer to customer, my productivity will skyrocket. Also, it has proven its a much safer vehical then anything else on the road. Highest crash raiting and least amount of accidents per mile driven. Other cars don't evan come close.
@@stang10189 Auto pilot is next best thing in the Tesla. Its a life saver on long road trips.
Trust me it's a must try, truly a blast! MYP owner
Model 3 Performance owner with FSD Beta 10.4 and absolutely love the vehicle. I recommend it to everyone.
i see you're a CPA. you know as well as i do, buying a highly depreciating asset like an EV isn't a smart financial decision. if you have a 20 mile round trip commute (10 miles each way), just get a quality used Toyota vehicle that will last you the next 10+ years mostly trouble free. and use the savings and invest in assets that will produce cash flow that you then could use to buy an EV down the road or something
The brake is only an issue if you are driving at 150 miles per hour, however, you do have the plaid which means you should have fun by driving fast with it. My friend installed the ceramic brake and they make a huge difference. Hurts the wallet though …
Yeah, having good brakes is like insurance though. If you're driving at those speeds often, you should definitely get ceramics because crashing is much more expensive than buying good brakes
Ceramic is quite a bit better?
@@gotchyeaaa yeah! Noticeable better! If money is not object, get it ! If you are only doing normal road driving, and May be hard on the wallet, the stock brake is fine. I rarely use the break for daily driving
Ceramic brake pads?
I already trst drove it. That car defeats everything on the road while being fully electric. I never go off what a troll says to stir you in a certain direction. Models S Plaid is supreme.
Supreme prize at least. Quality more like an 80´s Chinese budget brand
How do you not know that you can take the wheel covers off to reveal some pretty nice wheels underneath?
That’s only on the model 3. A $150k car isn’t going to have hubcaps like a $35k model 3.
@@anthonymehring2064 The Tesla model S with 19 inch wheels does come with hubcaps but underneath the hubcaps are the wheels you see in this video
@@anthonymehring2064 you would think but you’re wrong.
@@anthonymehring2064 tgey do it for more range. Take it off and u have nice wheels
Per the Tesla website, the Tesla S Plaid is $129990 in white without the wheel upgrade or full self driving.
There are actually pretty decent looking wheels under the aero hubcaps.
I agree the yoke is dumb.
You sit soooo close to the wheel and high up, of course it hits your legs.
Car and driver did a test of 0-150-0 and the plaid did it quicker than the quickest ICE (Porshe Turbo S). The Porsche did it in 19.3 seconds and the tesla in 16.2 seconds. The Sapphire was even quicker (15.5 seconds) but took longer than the Tesla to brake from 150.
Model s Lr is the way to go. It’s lighter , handles better and it’s fast enough . Plus you save 40k
Same weight as plaid
@@Kable10 just eat less donuts and the car will handle better
Dude, 100% HONESTY is what viewers can appreciate. I'm a BMW guy and thoroughly unimpressed by the direction they're going with their EV lineup. We'll see what the future offers. But I'm subscribing based on your honesty alone.
I'm driving a 525 6cyl 3L bmw for 10 years. Just tested the new 530e (4cyl 2L) .. I was sooooo dissapointed! Bad drivetrain, no power.. really not bmw :((. Gonna get a tesla now
yea the BMW EVs are overpriced and just shit overall. The BMWs with internal combustion engines are beasts tho
I’ve owned an X6M, X3M Comp and now drive an Alpina B7. As I’m considering going EV, I drove an I7 for about two weeks. This Tesla Model S Plaid definitely impressed me more than the I7. And the interior of the Model S Plaid is actually more impressive than any other Tesla I’ve seen. I’m really considering the Model S Plaid. Crazy for a BMW only guy! 🤔
Helpful info, thank you. I plan to get the Plaid in December of 2022, so the 2023 model. My hope is that by then they’ll have fixed the vibration issue, added bigger brakes, and maybe/hopefully added soft close doors.
didn't know I would miss soft close doors until i realized I had to pretty much SLAM the doors on the plaid. If 3rd parties release them, i will definitely install them
Just what I was thinking, surely they will improve the brakes after what every reviewer has said
I use a yoke everyday on my Tesla, took about 3-4 hours of driving to be 100% used to, only reverse parking & big corners u miss a steering wheel, outside of this it makes driving 100% more fun!
Agree on brakes but the car handles pretty good . Also amazingly fast and the brake regeneration makes the brakes less important during normal driving .,
he owns a taycan and a model 3 so it's really relative on what you are used to tbh
My friend's Model 3 autopilot makes multiple mistakes a day that could be deadly. They don't trust it at all.
This guy $65k underwater
Do another review with the latest update with track mode and you will be impressed. I just installed the update and it’s awesome!
My current dilemma as well. No one has compared track mode feel on Plaid vs 3 Performance
Tesla model s normal ( not plaid )
White colour
21 inch alloys
White interior
Normal steering wheel
Aftermarket upgrade
Red calipers
Blacked out Chrome badges
It would be best for me i guess
Great video! We got polar opposite’s! Got Black on Black! Love the white interior, smash those Brakes!!!
Remove the plastic covers, until you get the custom wheels they are serviceable. ...Its a Sports Utility Sedan. Don't even think about trademarking "Sports Utility Sedan" I already did. I am putting Vossen wheels on my 19's
Plz no, I don't want people abbreviating it to SUS
Theres no need for the 0-60 but I want it for the 0-60.
Do you think the base Model S is worth the money? I'm torn between M3 LR, M3 P, and Model S base.
Compared to other manufacturers Tesla do lack that last piece of quality. Be it panel gaps paint etc. However the technology they have is miles ahead of anyone else. airbags so advanced that seatbelts are obsolete. A sterile air mode that effectively allows you to drive through bio hazards. Best sound system in the world utilising the windscreen as a resonator. Most powerful ultrasonic radar system ever made. The list goes on. Yes I’m getting a plaid.
Lol are you crazy? Seatbelts are obsolete?
Do you have any proof for this fake news?
@@Whitebeard6262 I don’t think he meant it literally. Probably just excited on how advanced they are 😆
@@Montenegro651 bro that is also not true. Mercedes with the new eqs wiped the floor with tesla. Longer range, better quality, better infotainment system, way smaller turn circle, better and more innovative features (like self adjusting side mirrors) and much more.
Tesla is a hype machine.
@@Whitebeard6262 I believe it.
@@Whitebeard6262 You can not come here with facts to the entitled Tesla fanboys. You might damage their fragile emotions!
Really love my 3P. Waiting on the roadster which should have the handling and braking figured out. Thanks for sharing!
Still waiting huh?
Have one of first ones since July. Impressive drivetrain, tech and interior. Agree with you on brakes somewhat. Bit scary but check the speeds first. When you slam brakes at +150 mph..., no other big sedan will behave much better. Handling is decent in advanced/low. Not $150k sport sedan handling (M5..), but decent still. Mine is with 21" wheels, that could help high-speed cornering vs. 19", maybe.
There is a new package for performance brakes that should fix the issue
@@MichaelOrtega There is no issue... if your are not used to braking down from +100 mph any brakes feel slow and underpowered from that speed. There is nothing wrong with the brakes for normal road use. Just do not take it to a race track with the stock brakes.
If you have to slam the brakes from 150mph, then you have no business driving at those speeds. Let off way early and you'll minimize your need for the brakes. You could even stay wide to let cars pass, then immediately pass them coming out of the turn. Different driving style with a 5K lbs vehicle. Show me a race car that can stop weighing in at 5k lbs. that's why they use parachutes.
This car literally make everything else in your garage look old 🗑 and obsolete. It's just facts LOL
At least the cars in your garage is old. The Plaid will never be. It will be in the scrapyard within 3-4 years, mark my words. Quality is so bad it will break down on you. I think it looks quite bad too, has that granny car aura
you are complaining that the model S looks just like model S... "plaid" is speed based improvement, it's still model s, what else should it look like?
I also have a 22’ model S Plaid. I agree with you on brakes but cornering is 1.08G? That blew my mind.
Superior Job! You are very thorough and insightful. Thank you so much for your attention to detail.
its not a 150K car if you didnt buy the wheels lmao. have one in the garage. this video is a bunch of bullshit. got fsd and the wheels and somehow its still not a "150k car"
I would rate it at 20K tops. That is what it should cost, considering the poor quality, bad battery, low range and ugly looks
I often hit 145+ and occasionally 163 with zero braking issues. That's because I let off early and allow the regen to do all the braking. You're right, the brakes on the car is not made for a nearly 5k lbs car that hits crazy speeds so fast. Use better judgement and let off early and you'll have no issues slowing the car down. No brake dust and your brakes will last nearly forever. I rarely have to use my brakes. I only go fast if there's room to make combination passes and then I'm gone. Leave room, never tail gate, pull over and the fools speed into braking situations. Wait for combo pass openings then bam, seeyaaaaa. Of course this is only done if 1)Equipment is safe 2)Conditions are safe 3) No traffic cops(brainwashed wealth transfer infantry low lives)
I do agree the Model S is a bit too expensive... but I disagree with your reasoning about not to get the Model S. Why? Simple, this car is a SEDAN, not a sports car. If you want a real sports car from Tesla, wait for the Roadster to come out and pay an extra $100K on top of the price of the Model S. Should the Model S come with better brakes? Probably, but just face it, why would you go racing with this car knowing it is not meant to be a race car? Might be the fastest acceleration, but that is just part of the “fun” of getting a Tesla. Nothing to do with racing. I currently drive a 2022 Model 3 Performance, it is writhing my budget and I got it because I wanted to have a Model 3 that is fast and fun to drive. Do I plan to race with it? Nope. It has the Track mode, I have never used it and while I might test it for fun, most likely I will never use those functions. If one day my budget allows me to get a Model S, I probably will. Is it worth it? Like you said, probably not, but if I can afford it, why not? To race? Nope, just to have a nice sedan that can accelerate like a spaceship. Just for fun. Cheers
💯. a supercar status is not only 0-60 but its top speed, handling, turning braking, safety and center of gravity!
Is the body panel gap improved on the exterior?
Upgrading the brakes are fairly easy.
1. Just upgrade to better(cooler) brake pads (very cheap).
2. New/larger brake calipers + better brake pads (gives decent results)
3. New/larger brake discs + brake calipers + brake pads (gives good results)
Back in the days when ppl knew how to just upgrade those on their cars themself it was a cheap fix. Nowadays I guess few knows how to turn a wrench and needs to turn it in to a shop it might get a bit expensive. But if you know how to do some basic stuff on a car yourself. A Tesla is no different then other cars I have worked on.
Guess the handling could be adjusted with software if a "racemode" similar to M3P is added that stiffen up the suspension a bit, extra swaybars are very cheap to add also though.
This should do a good difference?
Pay attention Fanboy….at $150k you shouldn’t have to do anything to make it safer. It’s a shit car for the money….looks plastic with a shit interior
@@jimdandy9118 Nah, that is just going over the top. It's a family car with excellent acceleration. I guess the Roadster will be a real "race car".
I agree on that it could and should have better brakes and maybe suspension. But concidering its a family car I do understand that it does not have it.
@@RichardAnderssonDeffe That’s why intelligent people by a Mercedes S Class. Same money but a whole different level of quality.
@@RichardAnderssonDeffe You watch this and tell me which car is superior. Not even close. th-cam.com/video/xEEp9Xse544/w-d-xo.html
@@jimdandy9118 what MB did you have in mind? Mercedes EQS 580 4Matic? Cost twice as much as a Tesla Model S. Possible Better build quality but bad on track and slower than the Model S and less Tech(if we are talking speed and brakes).
But I agree on it seems to be a fantastic and comfortable car, I could buy it just for the massaging chair's.
Mercedes creates great cars, but there is no competitor in the Model S segment due to lack of tech and several other details.
Or what car would you say is a perfect competitor to the S?
I have one, the brakes are actually very good, it’s just so fast that when you pass someone on the freeway for example you’re already on the speed limiter (163) in just a few seconds.
I would recommend Tesla adds an adjustable spoiler on the back to help with braking from the speed this Plaid achieves.
An aero kit and carbon ceramics on the Plaid will make it outperform almost any multi million dollar car even on the track (check Laguna Seca track times).
True and I believe it's a matter of weather you can drive or not . How good is you driving skills.
I remember spy shots of a tesla plaid with active aero from the nurburgring, wonder if it was scrapped or is coming later?
I bet Elon is laughing all the way to the bank.
I’m guessing theres a 75% profit margin on the Plaid.
@@CarStory thats not how it works buddy. there margains are way lower on the plaid. still insanly high tho.
I really appreciate your honesty but I'm still getting a plaid.
Very wise.
Ok Sir. Enjoy your overpriced poor quality car!
But what about the long range one? Is it worth it?
Tesla has upgraded the brakes and now plaid is only 20K more than long range. So do you think it is worth it now?
Chandler, the type of guy who buys a car to tell you why not to buy it.. much appreciated! =D
for the 0-60 you weren’t in cheetah mode which makes it faster
I gotta be honest. I'm not fan boy but alot of his gripes feel like he should have known this before he ordered this. This feels like he didn't do any due diligence to check these things. A test drive or visit to a tesla dealership really could have given him some insight.
Did you get FSD or just autopilot? Autopilot is standard but fsd is $12,000.
You should follow up this video with a Tesla Model S Plaid giveaway! 😄 Good review! Thanks!
Thanks for the insight!
This very optioned (white interior) Plaid is now $108K , not $150 . Maybe if u had the 21’ ($4,500) wheels the handling wud be much better . Also the round steering wheel is now a free option if u don’t prefer the yoke
Can even get a better deal with available inventory in some areas. I paid $101k for mine
Everybody has a Plaid these days. It's not really a special car when you see 5 of them every day, and it looks the same as it did a decade ago. Long in the tooth. People buy these, have some fun with them, get bored and sell them. The used car market is flooded with Plaids, which says a lot about their one hit wonder status and lack of special-ness.
?? Smart people realise what an engineering marvel it is to fit this much storage, luxury, tech and speed so they will definitely keep it and enjoy every second of it. Some kiddies who don't even know what's it supposed to be will sell it...
@@lukabosnjak3829 true, thats why they sell them so fast. Because they're so good. Makes sense.
Btw i sold my Wifes Model Y too. Never again.
@@lukabosnjak3829 it's just that Tesla forgot handling and brakes. th-cam.com/video/Hn9QWjxFPKM/w-d-xo.html
I could not agree more. Plaid is a boring, overprized one trick pony
Tesla reinvented the steering wheel made it useless and unsafe to use. Ridiculous. This isn't a plane, the steering wheel in cars need to turn full circle and for that practical use, a circular steering wheel is much more intuitive to use.
Absolutely deal killer if the brakes are shit, and high speed stability is scary, thank God for Porsche!!!!
This week I’ve tested the Porsche Taycan Turbo and the Model S Plaid. As much as I can appreciate a Porsche, the speed and power of the Model S Plaid is incomparable!!
How's the exhaust note?
You say the steeling wheel is dangerous but you are sitting super close to the steering wheel, scoot your seat back, it won’t hit your legs.
I think the model S is much better than the taycan and I’m a Porsche guy. I love the S design and hatch. Not a fan of the taycan design and don’t like that it has a trunk vs hatch. Love the S minimalistic interior design. It’s a great overall car. For corner carving, that’s where the 911 comes into play. But for every day car, model S wins in my book.
That steering wheel though......would be a no-go for me
yuck
If original cars started with the yoke and twsla went with the round wheel people would have said the same this isn't anything new
@@oxide9717 not quite kid
I’ve had no issues with the yoke since day one. Thought I would swap it out but never did. All this “dangerous” talk is baffling. Doesn’t hit my legs and as for fast turning, not sure what the issue is there either.
Add a front lip, canards and a bit bigger rear lip spoiler for more stability at speed! Some side splitters and a rear diffuser would be cool too! Go full aero mode! Then upgrade to carbon ceramic brakes! Another $50-60k should get it about where you want it 😂
And you still save 2 million bucks over the Chiron.
But then you would go slower because of aero
I think you have to put the car in cheetah 🐆 mode for the 1.99 0-60
Do you think if you're set on getting a Model S it should be an earlier model like 14-15?
Didn't watch the video but the Plaid is the best car Ive ever owned. Finally, an American car with the power and traction to destroy the Germans, Italians and Japanese.
I just placed an order on a Plaid, thanks to you.
😂
if it had a normal steering wheel option id buy it.. im literally sticking with my model 3p just cause i cant stand how impractical the half wheel is
@@BarbeloSees ye.. 1 day after writing the comment I ordered the plaid btw
I'm such an idiot 😂
Is the standard model s or the plaid more worth it?
Long range definitely.
I am probably one of the few people who consider this car underpriced lol
I love this car Tesla plaid s my favorite color is purple n black . N not a ravens fan but a Tampa buccaneers fan from day one . Two loosing seasons. Am hoping we go to da Super Bowl 2023. Let’s go
Personally I feel like the only selling point of this car is the performance. I don't see why else you'd buy a glorified 150k estate sedan. There are cheaper cars with better luxury options and more brand prestige. And there are cheaper cars that perform better all around (when I say all around I mean speed and handling, not just raw acceleration) so tbh I don't see the point of this car aside from it just being a flex for wealthy people. For all that just get a regular S or model 3 or X. Because you're really only paying for the performance and tech. And if you aren't gonna be drag racing or bringing it to the track then buying for the performance is pointless. And if it's just the luxury you want as previously stated there are cheaper cars that have more options. And the cars in it's price range are way more luxurious and have brand prestige. The Plaid is the iPhone of cars. It's just an unnecessary flex that has a single selling point: Camera/crazy acceleration.
The Plaid DESTROYS the Toocan on so many levels.
and yet the taycan is worth the money
Except looks, build quality, the interior, brand recognition etc etc etc
Expect for the breaks locking at random times
@@connor40625 wait tesla or taycan
Porsche makes outstanding cars. The suspension refinement, build quality, handling prowess, they're just a standard. So please respect Porsche. It doesn't flatter any car owner to disrespect such an accomplished and storied brand.
Good news, mid-2022 you can upgrade the Factory brakes from Tesla for only $20,000 more LOL LOL LOL. Now only $170k for the vehicle to get it to stop properly when using all of that hp.
Too much money! I HATE the steering wheel. It's good for planes but NOT for cars. I'd rather have a round steering wheel!
No Tesla sponsorship for you LoL
I wouldn't get it just based off of all the beeps and warnings driving me nuts
Why do you have your seat positioned so far up? I have one and I'm a lot taller than you are. I don't have the issue you have. Try moving the seat back.
Those plastic aerodynamic wheel covers pop off, and their are nice-looking wheels underneath
Soon as you talked about the driving dynamics I hit the like. I mean my man has a 458 Italia obviously he knows somethings
I’ve said this ever since I first got a P3, the brakes suck ass. It’s unfortunate that for the price you pay, you shouldn’t have to buy better aftermarket brakes. Tesla really needs to provide much better brakes that are capable of stopping the vehicle if you need to slam on them.
You gave Elon your hard earned cash and he just pissed in your face by providing a useless and dangerous car. Hope it is worth it, the one day per year you can outrun a teenager in a Honda civic at the red lights. The utter stupidity of Tesla drivers amazes me
Tesla is basically for the elderly, nerds who watch Star Trek reruns and people who like gay sex - not that there’s anything wrong with that.
You paid 150k for the 0-60 when you could have paid 3 million to get even less performance. Spend money to upgrade the brakes and quit bitching - geez. BTW how does the Plaid do so well on the Nurburgring - better than the Taycan? Lots of people buy performance cars and then spend a ton more money to upgrade them and STILL don't get close to this Plaid.
I would rather pay 3 million for a 80´s lada than 3 dollars for a plaid. The quality is just too bad in the Tesla. It is a very dangerous car as well
The weight is the battery pack for the extra range.
4:27 In fairness, you can opt to have that b pillar leather wrapped to avoid the cheap plastic. It does cost a lot of money though.
$150,000 😱😱😱 I just picked up a 2019 model s P100D with 37,200 miles for $54,500 or over 60% off a new plaid and what do you get for spending nearly $100,000 more than I did? I second faster 0-60 time which is great if you're on a racetrack I guess. I can't believe people actually spend so much more money then they have to. I could get close to 3 used model S performance cars for the same price as 1 new Plaid and in 2 years his plaid will be worth less than $100,000 while my model S will still be worth close to $60,000.
This video made me glad I didn’t swap my current S for the plaid 😅
Now it’s 110k and the quality has improved inside and out
I hate that steering wheel to 🤢
Now it's like 20k cheaper, you can get a normal steering wheel and the brakes are painted red and upgraded with higher thermal capacity (everyone knows red brakes stop the car faster) it's nice that they listen to costumers, also I think that the rear display got a lot bigger but I am not sure.
Very honest. I liked this video
I am between this or a model 3 performance.
You have to understand that with Tesla you pay for drivetrain and tech, not fancy details :)
Tech having a lot of issues, drivetrain maybe decent but not any more. Owning a Tesla would drive me nuts, all the bugs and errors you hear about...
its a $130K car not $150K
Once you get the white interior, full autopilot, carbon fiber trim and destination fee it is.
Glad that I will buy a fully loaded Model S Plaid anyway.
Nice car man! Throttle house had a good track test video and was stressing how terrible the breaks are.
I love my model s, its fast like crazy
Incredible how Tesla dropped the price in 2023. Crazy depreciation as well.
Why dont u just adjust steering wheel height? Like it has more range of motion than a regular car steering wheel
The car looks more aggressive. Around the wheel sticks out more.
I would have waited for the 4680 battery pack that we'll see in 2022. Lighter and more energy.
@@possibilityspace where do u see these estimates mate?
Hi can you drive none stop for 330 miles?
No
First reason. Plaid means CRAZY fast, but at the same time it's a sleeper. No extra bells or whistles to catch racers of guard
Second reason. To taunt Porsches, look at me granny's car, but will kick your *** at any speed.
Is that enough reasons Chandler?
But if you want those extra bells and whistles by all mean put them on..
They're very different cars with very different purposes. And spoilers: lots of people ripping around in a 911 Turbo or GT3 on the public roads already own a Model S/X for the wifey or as their "regular" daily. If you can afford a purpose built high-end sports car, you can probably afford a 150K daily driver too... 😉
That said, you can def embarrass frat boys in a Cayenne or Macan who think they own the road cause Daddy bought them a 80K "sports SUV". But that's just doing the lord's work regardless of what car you do it in.
@@shammyh Must feel so nice to be a Tesla fanboy. Paying 150k just to smoke a teenager in a Honda Civic at the red lights once a year. And on top of that you get a car with bad breaks, poor build quality, degenerating battery, tech that have annoying bugs and looks like a granny car.
By the way I love your sensor of humor! and yes I am straight....
Thought those rims are designed to give you more range compared to the upgraded ones! There was another video where they were racing a Plaid at the track against other high end sports cars and they also complained about the long time it took to come to a stop. The breaking needs some work or a upgrade.
Dose it have a spare wheel ?
Dose it stay changed when not in use or dose it lose charge which cost money ?
Is it cheap to repair ?
Dose it go for 400 miles on one full charge ?
Dose it still require text message and 4/7 hours for assistance to arrive ?
Get the upgraded brakes on teslas site. Brakes are fine for normal use. Just like you can buy upgraded brakes for other cars. Also use track mode for better handling. For being a “fanboy” I would think you’d know this.