Isn't that pathetic??? And they know they've never thought otherwise. The only time they say these asinine things is when someone threatens their world view.
I've got a sister who's living for herself. She has her reward. Even abandoned her only daughter. So now I'm living for God and an extra kid. The more the merry.
@Sterling Falls Productions uhhmm....maybe so for some. But for those who are submitted and willing to follow, the rewards in eternity are enormous. I will wear a robe of righteousness. Some will have only a garment of salvation. One thing's for certain.......we'll all see Jesus as Savior and Lord and will spend eternity ALIVE and not perishing forever. THAT'S good news from either perspective. 👍🏽
That is a typical millennial move, They act like psychiatrists when they know the topic is about to get serious in a conversation and they're about to get squashed by it.
15:20 Tests for Non-Fiction 1. Internal Consistency 2. Literary Style 3. Archaeology Verification 4. Manuscripts 18:20 Source Documents, 1st Person Accounts 20:52 Africa, South America, Asia 21:36 "The Human Heart Is Sinful" 22:49 Evil and Good, Value & Dignity 24:02 Slaves in Rome _Understand The Context_ 26:53 Genesis: It is Poetry, Ideas Parallel To Each Other
Watching older videos to his newer ones you can see what the education system is doing to the youth, I thank God I didn’t adopt these false doctrines. They got kids arguing that rocks are alive and that life isn’t life it’s just your perspective man. Pray for the youth, pray for the “educators” pray for America. Thanks be to God through Christ Jesus.
@@theoskeptomai2535 kid at 7:35...he doesn't say that rock and has life but that it is animate matter...correct me if I am wrong and I will gladly apologize or withdraw what I said about somebody I do not know
@@ryanmacmaster9074 OK. That is one student. I will admit that. I don't think that many students would agree with him. Do you think this idea of rocks having life is indicative of atheism?
Ive watched almost all these videos and u can tell that throughout the years u see the ppl gettin more and more prideful and unwilling to listen and learn. Two types of sinners. Those that r humble and want to learn vs those that r prideful
I have noticed the same…we are getting closer to a point in western societies where it is going to be very dangerous to preach the gospel and speak truth…persecution is coming. The youth are getting rabid and/or emotionally hurt if someone challenges their worldview…Cliffe challenges their own thinking and worldviews which are predominantly based on two things… that they evolved from pond scum to a higher order and they live for themselves. Cliffe is always intellectually honest in that he will admit he doesn’t have an answer for everything. He will honestly say he doesn’t know, but will point to evidence in the gospels that Jesus Christ is reliable and can be trusted.
Nah I'd say it's the same. People have always been people, ther is nothing new under the sun. Remember 2,000 years ago they killed the purest man to walk the earth.
@@theoskeptomai2535 Still rolling that rock up a hill expecting different results I see. You are the definition of absurdity. Bow now or bow later, Jesus is Lord!
I realize this is a small group of young people that you’re speaking to, but if this thinking is a majority thought with young people, Wow! I understand why your ministry is so relevant! Be blessed
The "Meme Generation" needs Cliffe more than any other generation as there is this information war going on. Young people like witty comments but fail to test the evidence behind these assumptions/beliefs. It's probably true of every generation at this stage of life, including when I was this age. Cognitive bias adds to this, as well.
@@darkeen42 It may seem that way, and I'm sure editing is involved, but also the videos are kept to about 28 minutes each, and he has to end somewhere. He doesn't try to prove there is a God, just give evidence, as an atheist might try to give evidence as to why they believe there is no God.
@@darkeen42 I have written down some of the evidence he uses. It does not seem like a whim, but a thought out response, that has been prepared in advance. I have a list of eleven he has mentioned before. And all seem rational. The reason it may not make sense to you is that everybody starts in their quest for truth, from a worldview, either there is a God, or there isn't. This bias may cloud one from finding the Truth. I can not buy the faith it would take to believe there is no God. The odds are stacked against it. I will list five of the evidences he uses, for now. 1 order and design point to an intelligent designer 2 the big bang shows the universe had a beginning, and beginnings have a cause 3 fine tuning of the universe for life to exist on the planet 4 densely packed information in the DNA of the cell 5 extremely complex, and all stages must be working properly to operate, ie. a mousetrap,(like a slab of wood, spring, hammer, but he gave an example of the eye, also). Plus, six more, one of them being, life comes from life. So, without even using the Bible, he has given evidence for God. But to someone who starts with, there is no God. They have to explain away everything, even if it means believing in aliens, and accepting really bad odds. If I just look at fine tuning, and think of a body that has to, by chance have a heart beating, at the same time as having blood vessels and blood, and then not having eyes yet, has to find a mate that is adapting at the same time, in the same area. This only begins the odds that are required, if there was no God. Alot of blind faith!
@@darkeen42 Says the stalker psycho who trolls this channel on every vid. There is clearly something very wrong with you my friend, weather you believe in Christianity or not. You obsessive stalking is creepy and not healthy. Normal people of sound mind and body so not behave the way you do here. And NO I will not be engaging in an argument with you for those very reasons. I don't argue with mentally unstable people.
I love listening to Cliffe, it’s so refreshing to listen to someone who puts thought into what they’re saying. This channel is a real treasure! Thank you for posting all of these videos.
@Michael Vandeventer you're not being intellectually honest. He goes around campuses doing this for years and years. He's there, in front of all, answering as many militants as possible. He's not doing the Matt Dillhunty Dodge by hanging up on every caller that asks a tough question. Come on man, look at this man's history. He's not hiding anything. He's willing to talk to anyone honestly, intellectually, and face to face. He even encourages you to come to his ministry and see for yourself. You can do better.
Cliff speaks with real conviction, and demonstrates a love for these young men and women, who want desperately to know the truth. Their minds may be cluttered with academics and peer pressures and whatever pressing issues their struggling with, however, they are genuinely trying to understand. Cliffs patience and understanding as a father, husband, and pastor, is respectable towards his gift to interpret the Gospels.
Since 2013 I have been watching Cliffe's vids. I gotta say you can see and hear the dumbing-down that has been pushed on these kids through their public education for the last 9 years. It gradually gets worse from 2013 to 2022. This is why I thank God that Cliffe and Stuart have a heart for God to help these students. Because I am convinced that the ones who strawman Cliffe's points or use extremely condescending tone or attitude towards Cliffe honestly have no idea what they are saying. Pray for them!
Omg I literally cant get enough of this guy. The truth that just flows put of him has helped me grow in my thinking & it just reinforces what I already know but he words it so eloquently 💋👌
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 clearly you don't understand the Bible nor 2000-year old vocabulary or how culture and history works I feel so bad for you but keep trying you're failing miserably right now. That is not at all what is meant by taking the lord's name in vain please educate yourself before you speak to me again there's nothing to say to you until you do
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 even funnier you are the pot calling the kettle black typical hypocrite easy to point the finger at others but never look at yourself and what your actions have done
@@darkeen42 What do you mean by "good work" and how do you know Cliffe isn't doing any? And what fallacious lies are you referring to exactly? Can you prove that there is more evidence to the existence of fictional characters than there is for the man who split time? And what about your own worldview? Can you state what that is and defend it? Can you demonstrate that anything at all that you believe is true with absolute certainty-or do you just go by faith?
@@darkeen42 So you're bailing on all counts and obfuscating then? Ever notice how all of the vids are the same length? If you don't even believe that happens by accident... Why do you believe in the great magical cosmic accident?
Once one is living with the Holy Spirit.. filling oneself... guiding oneself...that guidance and feeling is all the proof I need. I do appreciate Cliff and his wisdom..his style... 👍❤️🙏 God bless all..
God help the future with these clueless, arrogant kids. And the scary thing is that they’re so convinced they’ve got it all worked out at 18 years old.
The world has their ears and hearts closed to Jesus Gospel. Only a few get it. When Cliff talks it speaks to our hearts 💕 Christians, we understand him because we were and are ready for truth. The others , are confused because their hearts is not ready yet. Little time they have to believe and get saved from hell.
@@darkeen42 I don't blindly accept Cliffe's claims. There is a mathematical chance for some level of order. When I think of his argument for order, I think of how complex our brains and DNA are. Something I don't agree with Cliffe on is the age of Earth or the universe. My favorite arguments of his are the historical document reasoning and that life must come from life.
Humans as sinners is actually the greatest point to a designer. Since we were once perfect and now imperfect it identifies us to a T. The fact we have leftover DNA from a bygone age before the fall is a really great point. The adaptation that is built into us naturally is amazing, truly an awesome designer to provide thise survival skills and working dna.
@@darkeen42 Cliff is not taking about the way ripples of a wave leave its mark on the sand once it recedes, yes there is a clear pattern there, but look deeper, the water, molecules, atoms, the tide, moon, and you being there to observe it. The system itself is beyond comprehension. Compare it to the financial system or government. He is not talking about a penny you find on the ground but the penny nested in our monetary system. Regardless, one still has to provide an answer to his question, provide an example of how life comes out of non life and please to not reference a man made experiment mimicking a prehistoric earth with the emergence of a bacteria, that introduction in my biology class almost worked on me as a naïve 18 yr old (do not take my word on this google criticisms on the experiments yourself).
I need to make a minor adjustment here, Cliff said: " *_If there is a God WHO LOVES YOU ....... you'd be wise to put your faith in Him_* " - That's in response to the Kid who said he need's no validation from a sky-daddy. The most impactful way to answer this kid is to say that *_If there's a God - PERIOD._* Just think about this for a second, suppose there's a God who created you and he is not that good, not evil, but occasionally loses his cool with people. You'd be VERY WISE to do his will in order to avoid being killed or at least badly injured. Sure you wouldn't love him one bit, but still, unless you want to die which you can resolve that for yourself with the least suffering possible, you'd be very, very wise to seek validation from Him. This kid statement is only possible to go unscathed precisely because God loves him.
We should never ever put our faith and trust in some imperfect being who loses his cool occasionally. Not a chance. Because if God loses his cool times to times, then we can too, rightfully so and God would have no right to judge us for that.
@@STREEEEEET If God is imperfect, then his will is imperfect and if he himself throws tantrums, that is not a reliable being to put your trust on to do his will. The very reason why we ought to put faith in God is exactly because God is not imperfect and always does the right thing.
@STREEEEEET I get what you are saying, and philosophically speaking I can get on board with you as what you are describing is the sovereignty of God. Saying in essence, that if we can imagine God as the one and only...the very definition of reality...sort of in the same way as...if you were to author a story, then _you_ would be the _"god"_ of that world which you created in your imagination. As such, you and _you alone_ are *absolutely sovereign* over the lives of the characters in your story, and you can do anything you please with them! However, God did something that you and I are incapable of doing. He gave the _characters_ in His story *autonomy.* That is to say...you and I have been given free will. We can _choose_ to follow or _not_ follow God. However, what so many people miss out on is the fact that *ALL* of our choices come with consequences! And as you pointed out in your comment...if we disagree with God it is to our detriment! For God's will is *the only will.* And scripture warns us most soberingly that... _"It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God."_ *- HEBREWS 10:31*
I love when Cliffe calls on people who are just getting into semantics and being intellectually unhonest. Thank you Cliffe for everything you do - a struggling Christian
Wouldn't you benefit more if Cliffe were to discuss the rational position of atheism with an adult who can properly delineated, define, and explain the position instead of asking absolute nitwit college students drawn to such a circus sideshow?
@Theo Skeptomai I think his ministry is about debating college kids in particular. Hopefully he inspires these kids to look into the teachings of the Bible. I don't think he's concerned about winning the debate.
@@kathyreed8349 You honestly don't think Cliffe is concerned about winning the debate he initiates with these college students? Really? Are you asserting Cliffe would be content with losing these debates?
@Theo Skeptomai I could be wrong but I honestly don't think he's about winning a debate. How could it benefit him to win a debate? As far as I can tell it's all about getting this kids interested in seeking the truth. Might be the truth as he sees it but I admire that he cares enough to try. Gotta give him that.
Also I might add that he debates college kids because in my opinion he's good at relating to them. I also really respect the kids who don't agree and debate him in a respectful manner because I truly think they want to know if God exists. Otherwise I think they would just be on their way to their next class.
Proverbs 26:4-5 - Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself. Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own eyes.
It’s super tough to watch people who can’t carry a conversation with you, out of lack of respect. The best conversations, especially ones that come on disagreement, are best when respect is involved. Jesus will reward you for this ministry; don’t stop!
Is there anymore footage from this video? I wanted to see where you was going when you open the Bible to these college kids. They looked like they where learning. Keep up the good work Sir!
@@darkeen42 I love how it's literally the same guy trying to act smart in a comment section. How about you hold your talks outnumbering his crowds using actual data points instead of the literal satanic principles? You know, like "just trust the science, bro, not outdated texts." or my personal favorite, "do whatever feels good, just DON'T BE MEAN!!11!11!" There's a reason the college kids call out servitude as an 'injustice', blissfully unaware of how the tens of thousands of dollars they racked up in debt for that year at school to do the SAME PROFESSIONS. The difference from them and "slaves" of past, is that the old way taught people how to be adaptable for any profession, teaching eloquence, perseverance, highlighting personal strengths and making the ultimate individual. Today's students are LITERALLY adapted into a slave mindset, being told as children the only way to get ahead is to sign away your name to banks for the gift of being forced into a single task for the rest of your life. But these people think they're "progressive" and actually moving the world forward, rather than rocketing us backwards as planned all along for the never-before-seen personal benefit of the wealthy and powerful. Ignorance is bliss, however. Analyzing your beliefs through any lens other than self worship is nearly impossible for atheists/satanists, there's honestly no difference between the two. That's why the Bible remains historical, and we are enacting the events YET AGAIN. To our ultimate demise.
"Cliffe"! You have such faith in Jesus, which is not easy for everyone to obtain! The faith you have, just trying to win these people to Jesus, is overwhelming to say the least! I pray that Jesus watches over you and will keep you safe from harm, for these people need you, as do the world! Thank you Cliffe and your ministry for sharing the words from Jesus and the Bible for us! With ❤and🙏's!
A query for external answers will never fix internal problems. Discussing the irrational is just as hollow as seeking it. You must live it as it applies to every level of analysis. In the end you will know the truth.
Don't read Galatians 5 without reading the conclusion in Galatians 6. Applying reductionist principles, like either/or not both/and, like the five solas, cultural meaning from outside of Israel, and the argument from silence will result in abominable principles that teach things contrary to the whole truth of scripture and the culture of Heaven. Christ is man and Christ is Lord, it's both/and. Galatians 6: 1-4 "Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. Bear ye one another’s burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ. For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself. But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another." Don't only live principles described with the adjective "alone", scripture alone, grace alone, baptism alone, or belief alone, all just parts of the whole, but instead live all to the best of your ability, this is the love of God. To be doers not just hearers. To isolate and focus on parts of the culture of Heaven meet a carnal standard of good but is to fall short and meet an eventual destruction, to be cleared away. The whole culture of Heaven throws out the culture of alone (the Solas or the Romans.) Don't discard or forget the Hebrew culture of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob to substitute meaning from Roman culture of the Father and the Son, use the Hebrew meaning of Son and Christ given to Abraham by God. To live out the whole culture of Heaven, that is where true love and liberation flourish.
A few years ago when I started watching this channel I would get frustrated with these kids and how they would respond would sometimes make me angry. Now I genuinely feel sorry for them and it breaks my heart to even hear them trying to defend their atheism. I hope and pray that they will truly study the gospel and the purpose of Jesus Christ and realize what a wonderful gift He is offering them.
I'm curious. Why do you think the position of atheism has to be defended? I am not convinced of the baseless and unsubstantiated claim that a god exists. Are you asserting I have a choice to _not_ be in this position?
At 4:55, the student says the laws are what made up everything. I would have said where did those laws come from? Do laws ever create themselves? I thought laws come from lawmakers.
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 so math just happened by itself? How does an explosion (the big bang) cause laws to happen? Or math to occur? Order and design never come by chance.
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 Laws do not create and Math is a concept and concepts only exist in a mind. Math was not created by mankind however, for the concept of 1 or 2 were not dependent on the first man to think of it nor is the concept of 1 or 2 simply going to vanish when the last man dies. By this, math interestingly points to that mind which exists before, now and will continue to exist hereafter indefinitely. And as for the the Creator you are implying - He "didn't answer for any of the stuff that happens today"?? Really? Ever read Ezekiel 36? No other nation beside Israel who was scattered and brought back to their land after nearly 2k years. The land that was quoted by Mark Twain for being "desolate and unlovely". How about Matthew 24? Nation against nation, ethnicities against ethnicities, famines, pestilences and earthquakes, persecution and godlessness... seems to me Jesus, The Creator, nailed it on the head.
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 oh, hmm. I wasn't talking about humans yet. Was regarding the universe itself, which is so complex and fine tuned, that it had to be designed. Watch this short video for some facts regarding its complexity. th-cam.com/video/EE76nwimuT0/w-d-xo.html
I've been watching Cliff's videos for a while, and I really do think that the young people He talks to are becoming less and less intelligent as the years go on 😐
@@darkeen42 You previously stated that you understand where the Bible came from, whereas, I do not. To the contrary, I do know where the Bible came from. That was my point... You can't even understand that. WOW 🙄.
@@darkeen42 Incorrect... The gospels were written by the people whose names are attributed to them... Matthew wrote Matthew, Mark wrote Mark, Luke wrote Luke, and John wrote John. The names were never attributed to them until the authors were dying. Only then were the names of the authors attributed to the gospels, in order that people would know who wrote what.
There is no such a cogent concept of 'sky-daddy' to begin with. It is, but a term invented by those that refer to God as a delusion, I suppose. May God lead and bless these lost souls.
@@darkeen42 The holy Bible is one of the most trustworthy books to ever exist. Infact, the west in itself is rooted in the word of God. The synaptic Gospels, and the claims made by Jesus go in hand in hand. No contradictions whatsoever. The resurrection, the documentation of same also points to the reality that Christ is indeed the Lord God himself.
*REGARDING THE YOUNG MAN TALKING ABOUT PULSAR LGM1* His logic is _deeply flawed,_ for he puts forth the proposition that the pulses from the pulsar were... _"a message that we received, without a designer, without intention"._ ...but...uhm... *NO!* The pulsar was _NOT_ broadcasting a *"message",* for by the very definition of the word, in order for it to be a *"message",* it requires two things... *1)* There needs to be an *actual **_"message"_* ...such as, _"Greetings Earthlings,"_ or _"Please help!"_ etc. etc. And there was no such thing in the pulsar's signal. *2)* There needs to be *a messenger!* There was *NO MESSENGER* from the pulsar broadcasting messages. Then to add insult to injury, the young man attempts to draw parallels with DNA! Uhmmmm... *REALLY???* I can say with all sincerity...and I assure you, I am not saying this for the purpose of insulting the young man, but really...a six year old could understand the absurdity of such a comparison! DNA is _actual and intentional information,_ whereas the pulsar is merely a phenomenon which arises out of simple physical properties. There is no _information_ from the pulsar. --------------------- By the way, if anyone is interested in the article on the pulsar and the astronomers who discovered it 50-odd years ago, here is a link... www.space.com/38916-pulsar-discovery-little-green-men.html
Hey man! This is off topic from your comment but I’m a Christian and these questions pop up in my head a lot and it gets me stuck sometimes: How truly old is the world because science says billions but the Bible says a couple thousand? Also, a lot of non believers will ask me “where’s the evidence/scientific evidence of God?” Do you know how I can maybe respond to that?
@@koolaidman4461 two good questions. First. The age of the earth question is sort of weird to me. Personally, I just don't care. No matter what view you take, you'll have to make certain assumptions that you can't prove. Maybe I'm wrong but since the earth's age isn't a salvation matter, I spend no time worrying about it. Second, if someone asks for scientific evidence for God, it isn't you that needs to work on your answer, it's them that needs to work on their question. Science being the study of the physical has nothing to say about the non physical. It's an error in reasoning to even ask the question that way.
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 If your god enters our reality to answer prayers etc, then science should be able to detect it. What's unreasonable about that? Have we ever demonstrated anything that came from a non physical source?
@@colinmatts I can only assume that your reply made sense to you in this context. And 8 has no material source but we've been over that and you we'l never understand the point because you have a warped sense of reality . Metaphysical realities are axiomatic and they're everywhere.
Prayers for the young man I continue to see pacing back and forth as he has something going in his life that's hard. 20:57 I recognized him from a Different video where he had a hard time discussing/conversating with cliffe
9:15 That punk is trying to twist Cliffe's arguments into ad hominem-esque assaults. He is not being intellectually honest. Such is the temptation in these universities apparently, attack the man if you cannot best the argument.
@@uSpeakTruth Really? Now listen carefully. Name ONE and only ONE Roman or Jew who wrote about Jesus. If you provide a list of persons, I will know you are ignorant and not willing to discuss your assertion. After you identify ONE person, I will have a series of questions to ask. They will be questions that only require a yes, no, or short phrase answer. If you do not answer the questions simply and directly, I will end the discussion. Once we come to a resolution concerning whether or not your first selection wrote about Jesus, you can then select another ONE until we come to a resolution on that selection. If you haven't studied the historicity of Jesus extensively _on your own_ and rely only on what you've read from Christian apologists and Dr. Erdman, you will look foolish, and that is not my intent. My intent is for you to examine what you have asserted. If you can deal with that, then kindly identify by name a Roman or Jew that wrote about Jesus. Just the name if the person for now. I do not need or desire a lecture. So name this 1st person who wrote about Jesus.
@Justin Gary Are you now willing to answer each and every of my straightforward questions about _Antiquities?_ You see, idiot, I have actually studied FJ. And I doubt if you have read any of FJ's annals. So are you now willing to answer my questions? Yes or no.
Of course that first guy makes such an ignorant statement about a “sky-daddy” and walks away. How someone like that even passes any classes is a mystery to me.
@@lightworker4512 so you do understand it. GOD is so loving that he will not force himself upon you. You have free will. You get to make a choice to be with him or separate from him. On top of that he sent his only begotten son JESUS to take your punishment. That's the greatest love ever is that you would be willing to die for your friends. A completely unselfish act 🙌
@@larzman651 I served in the gulf war and was willing to sacrifice my life for my country. Our armed services sacrifice their life for their country. Jesus never sacrificed his life, he is eternal and so are we all. If you were born in India as a Hindu, you would burn in hell
@@lightworker4512 that's fantastic , I served in desert storm as well. Since you are alive and writing you as well as me sacrificed nothing , we followed orders. JESUS sacrificed himself for the remission of all sins as only he could because he was sinless and only GOD can forgive sins. His father YAHWEH rose him from the grave on the 3rd day sealing that we pass through death into life eternal if we are covered in the blood of his SON 🙌. We are all sinners and deserve death but GOD made a way for that to be forgiven. Are you under the assumption you are a good person?
I do wonder sometimes if as a human, I travel to a different world where everything is different. No math, no communication, water is not water (H2O) etc... Everything is different. We are born into this world as it is so we already have assumptions.
Big fan but how can you say genesis 1&2 is poetry? What evidence is there in Scripture that it’s not literal? I don’t know of any. I would argue that it’s literal because when God is given the 10 Commandments to the Jews he says you are to work for six days and rest on the seventh just as I had in the creation. They took it literal and still do.
I don't think that Cliff is saying that portion of scripture is make believe. I think he is pointing out that it's not a chronological news paper like account of how things went down. There are mysteries to what is explained to us and not every detail of the creation account was recorded in Genesis (that would be impossible). It would be different if he outright denied the creation itself but he did not. Yes, God rested on the seventh day. But just because he rested on the seventh day doesn't mean that every detail of what He did on the six previous days was recorded in exact detail. Genesis is a abbreviation of what took place, not a history of what took place.
@@1977seabiscuit what makes you think it’s not a history of what took place? I think that’s exactly what it is. I agree that not every tiny detail is there but my point is that I think it’s accurate history and I think it’s a normal seven day week because it says so. And there’s nothing in the scripture to say that it’s poetry or that it’s not literal.
@@sandina2cents779 You said, "I agree that not every tiny detail is there". That's all I am saying. God didn't give Moses every detail, because it would be more than Moses could handle or we could handle. In The end Christ treated Gensis as truth, and so I must do the same. I just don't think every detail is given to us. I would never go as far as label Genesis as poetry but the greater point is that Cliff and I would agree that there was a creation, that there was a perfect creation and then a fall. Neither of us would call Genesis fiction, but rather a abbreviated account that we could wrap our minds around.
@@1977seabiscuit A ‘perfect’ creation can’t make an ‘imperfect’ choice. If supposed ‘creation’ were ‘perfect’, there would be no possibility of a ‘fall’. I’m more than happy to call Genesis fiction.
@@darkeen42 I can’t believe I’m actually pointing somebody to Bart Ehrman…. He disagrees that it is written like poetry (except psalms) or like fiction of the time. no true document scholar would agree with you. I think you’re just stating things and haven’t actually done any research. Again, it’s the most historically accurate book in existence. That’s not poetry or fiction. There’s over 24,000 artifacts the back up it’s historical accuracy. They have found cities based on where the Bible said they would be. See…Here I go doing your work for you. nicely played
even how calm his voice is (one strategy in a debate to make you look intellectual and organize, materially, though.). But the words that came out from his mouth is so loud and arrogant. watch the video before you comment. ✌✝️🙏💞
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Just making meself a cup of tea Jesse, .. then I'll enjoy watching the video.. no doubt I'll find something which sparks my interest. I love these interactions between Cliffe and the students. .. as you know. 😍
The guy who said he was projecting was the one projecting. I noticed that ppl have used this "projectibg" trend to pawn off their initial reactionary thoughts on someone else but end up Projecting, being judgemental and intolerant as they claim to not be.
@@theoskeptomai2535 why do you need to know my personal beliefs? What so you can load up a preemptive counterattack and insinuate I'm "stupid, delusional, crazy" which proves nothing. It's none of your business what I believe in.
@@theoskeptomai2535 this is the problem these days it doesn't matter what you believe ppl just want to tell you your "wrong" and they have so-called superior comprehensive abilities. It's a game and nothing more I want no part of. You want an argument go to you local political building or university and have fun.
@@jensbasement3862 I think Theo Skeptomai scrolls through the comments all day long long for someone to argue with. Nice job denying him the opportunity.
The guy in the black shirt with the tree on it, wanted to sound so smart he sounded stupid! And was refuted so quickly. He had no choice but to leave defeated
He says that it is impossible for life to come from non-life. He is implying that a living thing cannot be born from a non-living thing, but when the question of life and its essence is explored further, we find that "life" is more than just what comes out of what, and that it can in fact come from something that is "non-living." We are all made of the same non-living elements that exist in the universe (iron, zinc, potassium, calcium, etc). The right combination of these non-living elements is what is ultimately responsible for the formation of life, firstly as single-celled organisms. The cell wall is made of some combination of those elements, so is the nucleus of that cell, the membranes, and so one. From there, the evolutionary process is responsible for the variety of shapes that we see in nature and the complexity of organisms. Yes, these same non-living molecules can also come together to form non-living things. All things, living and non-living, come from the same fundamental, non-living elements found in nature. I feel like that argument was an easy one to refute. It is unfortunate that no one had the insight to attack his argument with that approach.
Question: yes, I agree with some of your thoughts. Consider though something is missing, a big part of your thought process, if what you say is true, wouldn't science already have "created" a living organism with non-living structures?
@@coreywatson1093 Why would you think that? Would you expect science to already have "created" a galaxy? Scientist know quite a lot about galaxies, correct?
I really don't understand why more people have a hard time understanding the fact Jesus christ was and is our human savior. I don't agree with giving us a choice to choose our fate. I want to be told what to do so I do not screw up life and disappoint our creator, just my thoughts but true. Father control my everything, so I am to be with you I so long to be forgiven because I am a sinner and want your loving hands to guide me please my lord I will always love you your son Robert. Does anyone feel the same way, or am I alone in thinking this way, and thank you, Cliff, for your words today
The sabbath was made for man to bless him. On the 7th day sabbath there exists on this day of the week only, an almost imperceptible level of stronger concentration to tap into, that provides a greater clarity of thought, that’s not available in the same concentrated way, on the other 6 days of the week. However to obtain the maximum benefits of the sabbath we need to keep it holy. We achieve this by ceasing from as much work as possible, and thereby take a break from admiring our working achievements for a day. And also on this day we cease from our own pleasures as instructed in Isaiah 58. And from abstaining from this motivation for a day, of admiring our achievements, we admire God in a purer way. This is holiness. Because its not contaminated by admiring ourselves, which we do on the other 6 days of the week. This appreciation or admiration of our own achievements is a healthy God given motivation, whether they be big or small or minuscule achievements. And this 7th day sabbath blessing will bleed into the other 6 days resulting in an improved intellect.
Cliffe got them literally arguing that a rock is alive. Lol
Isn't that pathetic??? And they know they've never thought otherwise. The only time they say these asinine things is when someone threatens their world view.
Right. 😂 Every generation gets worse. Humanity needs a serious reset. Praise be to God. It’s coming soon.
@@techgamer8 a reset of the heart is exactly what Jesus came for
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 what?!
Luke 19:40 if we don’t cry out the rocks will~
I've got a sister who's living for herself. She has her reward. Even abandoned her only daughter. So now I'm living for God and an extra kid. The more the merry.
God bless you.
@@SkepticforTruth God bless you all the more my friend. Means alot.
Keep praying for her. Her story's not done yet. Some folks repent on their deathbed. Better late than never for eternity.
🙏🏻 I’m sorry to hear that. Only God knows what will come. I pray he will deliver your sister.
@Sterling Falls Productions uhhmm....maybe so for some. But for those who are submitted and willing to follow, the rewards in eternity are enormous. I will wear a robe of righteousness. Some will have only a garment of salvation. One thing's for certain.......we'll all see Jesus as Savior and Lord and will spend eternity ALIVE and not perishing forever. THAT'S good news from either perspective. 👍🏽
When I tell you I lost it when that guy said “Your tone is really aggressive” 💀💀💀💀
We all have a choice to and not to agree some are just lost and need a bit more time to understand
He learned what "An aggressive tone" is at this very school. He should try the military basic training for more examples.
Same. I can’t believe he had parents.
That is a typical millennial move, They act like psychiatrists when they know the topic is about to get serious in a conversation and they're about to get squashed by it.
“What are you feeeeeling in this moment” 😐 bruh huh??
15:20 Tests for Non-Fiction
1. Internal Consistency
2. Literary Style
3. Archaeology Verification
4. Manuscripts
18:20 Source Documents, 1st Person Accounts
20:52 Africa, South America, Asia
21:36 "The Human Heart Is Sinful" 22:49 Evil and Good, Value & Dignity
24:02 Slaves in Rome
_Understand The Context_
26:53 Genesis:
It is Poetry, Ideas Parallel To Each Other
Yoooo it's that time stamp guy
Thank you so much for this…. I was about to rewind the video to find this 😂
Doing a service for the people, that time stamp guy is 😂 much appreciated
Gosh the patience that cliff has being interrupted and still managing to remember all of his points
Watching older videos to his newer ones you can see what the education system is doing to the youth, I thank God I didn’t adopt these false doctrines. They got kids arguing that rocks are alive and that life isn’t life it’s just your perspective man. Pray for the youth, pray for the “educators” pray for America. Thanks be to God through Christ Jesus.
When you start arguing with somebody that thinks a rock has life then you know you ain't going to make progress
Who thinks a rock has life?
...Kids at this school.
@@johndavis7078 I seriously doubt that.
@@theoskeptomai2535 kid at 7:35...he doesn't say that rock and has life but that it is animate matter...correct me if I am wrong and I will gladly apologize or withdraw what I said about somebody I do not know
@@ryanmacmaster9074 OK. That is one student. I will admit that. I don't think that many students would agree with him.
Do you think this idea of rocks having life is indicative of atheism?
Ive watched almost all these videos and u can tell that throughout the years u see the ppl gettin more and more prideful and unwilling to listen and learn. Two types of sinners. Those that r humble and want to learn vs those that r prideful
I have noticed the same…we are getting closer to a point in western societies where it is going to be very dangerous to preach the gospel and speak truth…persecution is coming. The youth are getting rabid and/or emotionally hurt if someone challenges their worldview…Cliffe challenges their own thinking and worldviews which are predominantly based on two things… that they evolved from pond scum to a higher order and they live for themselves. Cliffe is always intellectually honest in that he will admit he doesn’t have an answer for everything. He will honestly say he doesn’t know, but will point to evidence in the gospels that Jesus Christ is reliable and can be trusted.
Nah I'd say it's the same. People have always been people, ther is nothing new under the sun. Remember 2,000 years ago they killed the purest man to walk the earth.
Are YOU willing to listen and learn?
@@dogelife7901 Who was this "purest man to walk the earth"?
@@theoskeptomai2535 Still rolling that rock up a hill expecting different results I see. You are the definition of absurdity. Bow now or bow later, Jesus is Lord!
I realize this is a small group of young people that you’re speaking to, but if this thinking is a majority thought with young people, Wow! I understand why your ministry is so relevant! Be blessed
The "Meme Generation" needs Cliffe more than any other generation as there is this information war going on. Young people like witty comments but fail to test the evidence behind these assumptions/beliefs. It's probably true of every generation at this stage of life, including when I was this age. Cognitive bias adds to this, as well.
@@darkeen42 It may seem that way, and I'm sure editing is involved, but also the videos are kept to about 28 minutes each, and he has to end somewhere. He doesn't try to prove there is a God, just give evidence, as an atheist might try to give evidence as to why they believe there is no God.
This generation is so lost.
@@darkeen42 I have written down some of the evidence he uses. It does not seem like a whim, but a thought out response, that has been prepared in advance. I have a list of eleven he has mentioned before. And all seem rational. The reason it may not make sense to you is that everybody starts in their quest for truth, from a worldview, either there is a God, or there isn't. This bias may cloud one from finding the Truth. I can not buy the faith it would take to believe there is no God. The odds are stacked against it.
I will list five of the evidences he uses, for now.
1 order and design point to an intelligent designer
2 the big bang shows the universe had a beginning, and beginnings have a cause
3 fine tuning of the universe for life to exist on the planet
4 densely packed information in the DNA of the cell
5 extremely complex, and all stages must be working properly to operate, ie. a mousetrap,(like a slab of wood, spring, hammer, but he gave an example of the eye, also).
Plus, six more, one of them being, life comes from life. So, without even using the Bible, he has given evidence for God. But to someone who starts with, there is no God. They have to explain away everything, even if it means believing in aliens, and accepting really bad odds. If I just look at fine tuning, and think of a body that has to, by chance have a heart beating, at the same time as having blood vessels and blood, and then not having eyes yet, has to find a mate that is adapting at the same time, in the same area. This only begins the odds that are required, if there was no God. Alot of blind faith!
@@darkeen42 Says the stalker psycho who trolls this channel on every vid. There is clearly something very wrong with you my friend, weather you believe in Christianity or not. You obsessive stalking is creepy and not healthy. Normal people of sound mind and body so not behave the way you do here. And NO I will not be engaging in an argument with you for those very reasons. I don't argue with mentally unstable people.
I love listening to Cliffe, it’s so refreshing to listen to someone who puts thought into what they’re saying. This channel is a real treasure! Thank you for posting all of these videos.
Also look up grace community church with Him and his sons and there community real gems for brothers and sisters in Christ 🙏🏾😭
I love this man and this ministry so so much 🕊️
@@darkeen42 didn't look like he was refuted at all.
Need a part two,to the ending. It was getting really good.
Agreed
@Michael Vandeventer they're all about 30mins. So I highly doubt it was a conspiracy to hide a great unraveling of his truth.
@Michael Vandeventer you're not being intellectually honest. He goes around campuses doing this for years and years. He's there, in front of all, answering as many militants as possible. He's not doing the Matt Dillhunty Dodge by hanging up on every caller that asks a tough question. Come on man, look at this man's history. He's not hiding anything. He's willing to talk to anyone honestly, intellectually, and face to face. He even encourages you to come to his ministry and see for yourself. You can do better.
@@darkeen42 lol the comments on the video you linked speaks for itself
@@darkeen42 the comments speak for itself
Cliff speaks with real conviction, and demonstrates a love for these young men and women, who want desperately to know the truth. Their minds may be cluttered with academics and peer pressures and whatever pressing issues their struggling with, however, they are genuinely trying to understand. Cliffs patience and understanding as a father, husband, and pastor, is respectable towards his gift to interpret the Gospels.
He answers tough questions on the spot, it's interesting he gets a lot of the same questions though over and over.
u nailed it
Since 2013 I have been watching Cliffe's vids. I gotta say you can see and hear the dumbing-down that has been pushed on these kids through their public education for the last 9 years. It gradually gets worse from 2013 to 2022.
This is why I thank God that Cliffe and Stuart have a heart for God to help these students. Because I am convinced that the ones who strawman Cliffe's points or use extremely condescending tone or attitude towards Cliffe honestly have no idea what they are saying.
Pray for them!
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 "u have" thank you for proving my point. You'll be in my prayers.
Hey, I noticed that as well.
I always like how people discount a book because of its age. Haha 😄 🤣
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 Have you read the book?
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 let me guess. You read the Levitical Legislation Laws and drew your conclusions on the Bible based on that. Am I close?
Praise God!!!! All Glory and Honor to Him!! Blessed be his name!!❤️❤️❤️
Omg I literally cant get enough of this guy. The truth that just flows put of him has helped me grow in my thinking & it just reinforces what I already know but he words it so eloquently 💋👌
Could you please elaborate on what you mean by 'Omg'?
@@Seeker7257 pretty it's for Oh My Gosh.
@@Seeker7257 nah you can google
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 clearly you don't understand the Bible nor 2000-year old vocabulary or how culture and history works I feel so bad for you but keep trying you're failing miserably right now. That is not at all what is meant by taking the lord's name in vain please educate yourself before you speak to me again there's nothing to say to you until you do
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 even funnier you are the pot calling the kettle black typical hypocrite easy to point the finger at others but never look at yourself and what your actions have done
Keep up the great work, Cliff! Your patience, reasoning and knowledge inspire me to do similar work.
@UC9h6OA7-PsnDsEU10NfOlvQ why are you so upset ?
@@darkeen42 were you there?
@@darkeen42 Matthew mark luke and John are historical documents. What are the evidence you have against this truth?
@@darkeen42
What do you mean by "good work" and how do you know Cliffe isn't doing any? And what fallacious lies are you referring to exactly? Can you prove that there is more evidence to the existence of fictional characters than there is for the man who split time? And what about your own worldview? Can you state what that is and defend it? Can you demonstrate that anything at all that you believe is true with absolute certainty-or do you just go by faith?
@@darkeen42
So you're bailing on all counts and obfuscating then? Ever notice how all of the vids are the same length? If you don't even believe that happens by accident... Why do you believe in the great magical cosmic accident?
That guy at at around 9mins 😂😂😂. ‘What are you feeling right now’?
🤣🤣 like bruh what?
Once one is living with the Holy Spirit.. filling oneself... guiding oneself...that guidance and feeling is all the proof I need. I do appreciate Cliff and his wisdom..his style... 👍❤️🙏 God bless all..
God bless you Cliff, i want to see more of these videos.
God help the future with these clueless, arrogant kids. And the scary thing is that they’re so convinced they’ve got it all worked out at 18 years old.
We all are blind and all fall short of the glory of God. Let us be quick to forgive and gentle with the scoffers, but wise and ferocious as wolves.
@@dogelife7901 True.
such a blessing just to see cliff talking . Honesty, knowledge, good ethics, truths just flows from his mouth
The world has their ears and hearts closed to Jesus Gospel. Only a few get it. When Cliff talks it speaks to our hearts 💕 Christians, we understand him because we were and are ready for truth. The others , are confused because their hearts is not ready yet. Little time they have to believe and get saved from hell.
Keep the faith Cliffe.. I enjoy your logic.
Cliffe, your videos & reasoning has helped me reach a couple of people. Thanks
@@darkeen42 I don't blindly accept Cliffe's claims.
There is a mathematical chance for some level of order. When I think of his argument for order, I think of how complex our brains and DNA are.
Something I don't agree with Cliffe on is the age of Earth or the universe. My favorite arguments of his are the historical document reasoning and that life must come from life.
Humans as sinners is actually the greatest point to a designer. Since we were once perfect and now imperfect it identifies us to a T. The fact we have leftover DNA from a bygone age before the fall is a really great point. The adaptation that is built into us naturally is amazing, truly an awesome designer to provide thise survival skills and working dna.
@@darkeen42 Cliff is not taking about the way ripples of a wave leave its mark on the sand once it recedes, yes there is a clear pattern there, but look deeper, the water, molecules, atoms, the tide, moon, and you being there to observe it. The system itself is beyond comprehension. Compare it to the financial system or government. He is not talking about a penny you find on the ground but the penny nested in our monetary system. Regardless, one still has to provide an answer to his question, provide an example of how life comes out of non life and please to not reference a man made experiment mimicking a prehistoric earth with the emergence of a bacteria, that introduction in my biology class almost worked on me as a naïve 18 yr old (do not take my word on this google criticisms on the experiments yourself).
Search Dr. James Tour, one of the worlds most renowned nanotechnologist, more than 1000 published papers on what he thinks of abiogenesis. : )
I need to make a minor adjustment here, Cliff said:
" *_If there is a God WHO LOVES YOU ....... you'd be wise to put your faith in Him_* " - That's in response to the Kid who said he need's no validation from a sky-daddy.
The most impactful way to answer this kid is to say that *_If there's a God - PERIOD._*
Just think about this for a second, suppose there's a God who created you and he is not that good, not evil, but occasionally loses his cool with people. You'd be VERY WISE to do his will in order to avoid being killed or at least badly injured. Sure you wouldn't love him one bit, but still, unless you want to die which you can resolve that for yourself with the least suffering possible, you'd be very, very wise to seek validation from Him.
This kid statement is only possible to go unscathed precisely because God loves him.
We should never ever put our faith and trust in some imperfect being who loses his cool occasionally. Not a chance.
Because if God loses his cool times to times, then we can too, rightfully so and God would have no right to judge us for that.
@@nikokapanen82 I didn't say to put your faith in an imperfect being. I said you'd be wise to do his will.
@@STREEEEEET
If God is imperfect, then his will is imperfect and if he himself throws tantrums, that is not a reliable being to put your trust on to do his will.
The very reason why we ought to put faith in God is exactly because God is not imperfect and always does the right thing.
@@nikokapanen82 You try that argument with an imperfect god and see how it goes...
@STREEEEEET
I get what you are saying, and philosophically speaking I can get on board with you as what you are describing is the sovereignty of God. Saying in essence, that if we can imagine God as the one and only...the very definition of reality...sort of in the same way as...if you were to author a story, then _you_ would be the _"god"_ of that world which you created in your imagination. As such, you and _you alone_ are *absolutely sovereign* over the lives of the characters in your story, and you can do anything you please with them!
However, God did something that you and I are incapable of doing. He gave the _characters_ in His story *autonomy.* That is to say...you and I have been given free will. We can _choose_ to follow or _not_ follow God. However, what so many people miss out on is the fact that *ALL* of our choices come with consequences!
And as you pointed out in your comment...if we disagree with God it is to our detriment! For God's will is *the only will.* And scripture warns us most soberingly that...
_"It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God."_
*- HEBREWS 10:31*
I love when Cliffe calls on people who are just getting into semantics and being intellectually unhonest. Thank you Cliffe for everything you do - a struggling Christian
Wouldn't you benefit more if Cliffe were to discuss the rational position of atheism with an adult who can properly delineated, define, and explain the position instead of asking absolute nitwit college students drawn to such a circus sideshow?
@Theo Skeptomai I think his ministry is about debating college kids in particular. Hopefully he inspires these kids to look into the teachings of the Bible. I don't think he's concerned about winning the debate.
@@kathyreed8349 You honestly don't think Cliffe is concerned about winning the debate he initiates with these college students? Really?
Are you asserting Cliffe would be content with losing these debates?
@Theo Skeptomai I could be wrong but I honestly don't think he's about winning a debate. How could it benefit him to win a debate? As far as I can tell it's all about getting this kids interested in seeking the truth. Might be the truth as he sees it but I admire that he cares enough to try. Gotta give him that.
Also I might add that he debates college kids because in my opinion he's good at relating to them. I also really respect the kids who don't agree and debate him in a respectful manner because I truly think they want to know if God exists. Otherwise I think they would just be on their way to their next class.
Pastor Cliff your so intelligent 🙏 i've learned alot about your preaching thank you God bless you ❤️ philippine watching 🇵🇭
Proverbs 26:4-5 - Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself. Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own eyes.
bruh that ending was such a tease, you guys better put the rest of that next week
these videos make me so happy i really hope hes made a difference in at least one persons life
Glad to see your still out there. God Bless
It’s super tough to watch people who can’t carry a conversation with you, out of lack of respect. The best conversations, especially ones that come on disagreement, are best when respect is involved. Jesus will reward you for this ministry; don’t stop!
Well maybe Cliffe should consider conversing with rational adults for once.
@@theoskeptomai2535 that would disqualify you. .
@@theoskeptomai2535 Cliff would never upload vids of that like he does with these kids. Because he'd be trolling himself. lol
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 Would you consider ANY of the 18,000 gods anthropologists claim have been worshiped to be mythological?
@@theoskeptomai2535 I've answered that question 6 times in the last week. Do you even read the answers you're given?
It all boils down to this: athiest don't want to acknowledge God because they don't want accountability. But, they'll still be accountable regardless.
This channel is personal helping me a lot! And I admire the things you do to spread the great Commission. God bless! More power to this channel!
You guys are the best. So encouraging. God bless!
Cliff is great, I love watching these & learning
Cliffe knocks it out of park in this one 👍❤️
Cliffe is ignorant.
The comparison between older videos and current ones is crazy. Modern students aren’t asking questions in good faith the majority of the time.
Nooooo!!! It was just getting good at the end!!! I need a part 2! TALK ABOUT GOOD ANSWERS AT THE END!!!
There is a new spirit in the air.
It is part of the spirit coming from you Cliff.
Bless you! May you continue to find new life in this Renewal
I love you cliff I apologise for the hard times you get off people,,, please don't ever loose faith,, jesus loves you brother
@@darkeen42So someone who doesn't hold the same beliefs as another individual is lying?
@@darkeen42 Comment is too vague. What specific claim than is he lying about
Best Cliff video I have seen in a really long time. Speaking life into these young kids.
Is there anymore footage from this video? I wanted to see where you was going when you open the Bible to these college kids. They looked like they where learning. Keep up the good work Sir!
@@darkeen42 I love how it's literally the same guy trying to act smart in a comment section. How about you hold your talks outnumbering his crowds using actual data points instead of the literal satanic principles? You know, like "just trust the science, bro, not outdated texts." or my personal favorite, "do whatever feels good, just DON'T BE MEAN!!11!11!" There's a reason the college kids call out servitude as an 'injustice', blissfully unaware of how the tens of thousands of dollars they racked up in debt for that year at school to do the SAME PROFESSIONS. The difference from them and "slaves" of past, is that the old way taught people how to be adaptable for any profession, teaching eloquence, perseverance, highlighting personal strengths and making the ultimate individual. Today's students are LITERALLY adapted into a slave mindset, being told as children the only way to get ahead is to sign away your name to banks for the gift of being forced into a single task for the rest of your life. But these people think they're "progressive" and actually moving the world forward, rather than rocketing us backwards as planned all along for the never-before-seen personal benefit of the wealthy and powerful.
Ignorance is bliss, however. Analyzing your beliefs through any lens other than self worship is nearly impossible for atheists/satanists, there's honestly no difference between the two. That's why the Bible remains historical, and we are enacting the events YET AGAIN. To our ultimate demise.
th-cam.com/video/ZOmWgAwjlN4/w-d-xo.html
I'm 3 months late but here it is.
"Cliffe"! You have such faith in Jesus, which is not easy for everyone to obtain! The faith you have, just trying to win these people to Jesus, is overwhelming to say the least! I pray that Jesus watches over you and will keep you safe from harm, for these people need you, as do the world! Thank you Cliffe and your ministry for sharing the words from Jesus and the Bible for us! With ❤and🙏's!
A query for external answers will never fix internal problems. Discussing the irrational is just as hollow as seeking it. You must live it as it applies to every level of analysis. In the end you will know the truth.
Oh no! Just when the video gets really interesting the dialogue is cut off. Why? Cliff you are the best. God Bless!
Don't read Galatians 5 without reading the conclusion in Galatians 6. Applying reductionist principles, like either/or not both/and, like the five solas, cultural meaning from outside of Israel, and the argument from silence will result in abominable principles that teach things contrary to the whole truth of scripture and the culture of Heaven. Christ is man and Christ is Lord, it's both/and.
Galatians 6: 1-4 "Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. Bear ye one another’s burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ. For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself. But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another." Don't only live principles described with the adjective "alone", scripture alone, grace alone, baptism alone, or belief alone, all just parts of the whole, but instead live all to the best of your ability, this is the love of God. To be doers not just hearers.
To isolate and focus on parts of the culture of Heaven meet a carnal standard of good but is to fall short and meet an eventual destruction, to be cleared away. The whole culture of Heaven throws out the culture of alone (the Solas or the Romans.) Don't discard or forget the Hebrew culture of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob to substitute meaning from Roman culture of the Father and the Son, use the Hebrew meaning of Son and Christ given to Abraham by God. To live out the whole culture of Heaven, that is where true love and liberation flourish.
A few years ago when I started watching this channel I would get frustrated with these kids and how they would respond would sometimes make me angry. Now I genuinely feel sorry for them and it breaks my heart to even hear them trying to defend their atheism. I hope and pray that they will truly study the gospel and the purpose of Jesus Christ and realize what a wonderful gift He is offering them.
I'm curious. Why do you think the position of atheism has to be defended?
I am not convinced of the baseless and unsubstantiated claim that a god exists.
Are you asserting I have a choice to _not_ be in this position?
At 4:55, the student says the laws are what made up everything. I would have said where did those laws come from? Do laws ever create themselves? I thought laws come from lawmakers.
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 so math just happened by itself? How does an explosion (the big bang) cause laws to happen? Or math to occur? Order and design never come by chance.
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 Laws do not create and Math is a concept and concepts only exist in a mind. Math was not created by mankind however, for the concept of 1 or 2 were not dependent on the first man to think of it nor is the concept of 1 or 2 simply going to vanish when the last man dies. By this, math interestingly points to that mind which exists before, now and will continue to exist hereafter indefinitely. And as for the the Creator you are implying - He "didn't answer for any of the stuff that happens today"?? Really? Ever read Ezekiel 36? No other nation beside Israel who was scattered and brought back to their land after nearly 2k years. The land that was quoted by Mark Twain for being "desolate and unlovely". How about Matthew 24? Nation against nation, ethnicities against ethnicities, famines, pestilences and earthquakes, persecution and godlessness... seems to me Jesus, The Creator, nailed it on the head.
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 oh, hmm. I wasn't talking about humans yet. Was regarding the universe itself, which is so complex and fine tuned, that it had to be designed. Watch this short video for some facts regarding its complexity. th-cam.com/video/EE76nwimuT0/w-d-xo.html
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 do you know what the constants of the universe are? You think they just magically came about?
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 that video didn't make up the mathematical constants of the universe. Just said what some of them are. There's more.
Please give the second part for this. Thanks and God Bless!
Kind of sad where nowadays you have to explain to someone that a literal rock is not a living thing
Bless cliffe for keeping up with this.
I've been watching Cliff's videos for a while, and I really do think that the young people He talks to are becoming less and less intelligent as the years go on 😐
Sad, but true. They think an object such as a inanimate rock has a conscious somehow?! 😂
@Ed yep.. I was just sitting there going..he's not gonna argue that point--he's not....he did😶
Yes I agree
Yes he tried to argue the difference in life, then got offended when cliffe called him on the intellectual dishonesty....
I'm not sure they're less intelligent, they just know so many things that aren't so. Kind of like Michael Vandeventer.
Perfect display of a man that met them with an intellectual argument, and completely irritated their prideful ways.
Most "Higher Education" is just a higher level of indoctrination and regurgitation.
Sounds like Christianity, huh?
@@theoskeptomai2535 To you I guess
That was a good one. Thank you for posting. May God Bless you.
Jeez, sometimes the amount of bigotry coming from the students at Texas State University is unreal. Liberal arts school, my ass.
where was there bigotry, are you talking about toward the Christian ?
@K H well that's why I was asking wise guy...read my comment friend. Bless up!
"I'm curious with your feeling in this moment"
"Your voice is very agressive"
Thank God for SJW with the wisdom to have dialogue
All praise, honour and glory belongs to Jesus Christ, the King of kings and Lord of lords.
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Proverbs 18:2 ~
A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion.
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You assume that you know what I believe?!?... Further proof that you are indeed a fool.
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You previously stated that you understand where the Bible came from, whereas, I do not. To the contrary, I do know where the Bible came from. That was my point... You can't even understand that. WOW 🙄.
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Who are the people whose entire job it is to tell what to believe?... Who are "those people"?.
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Incorrect... The gospels were written by the people whose names are attributed to them... Matthew wrote Matthew, Mark wrote Mark, Luke wrote Luke, and John wrote John. The names were never attributed to them until the authors were dying. Only then were the names of the authors attributed to the gospels, in order that people would know who wrote what.
I love these videos Cliffe! Thanks so much for sharing ❤️ God bless you!
There is no such a cogent concept of 'sky-daddy' to begin with. It is, but a term invented by those that refer to God as a delusion, I suppose. May God lead and bless these lost souls.
@@darkeen42 Sorry. How does that prove the delusional state? The Bible is indeed reliable as pointed out by cliff in the above video.
@@darkeen42 The holy Bible is one of the most trustworthy books to ever exist. Infact, the west in itself is rooted in the word of God.
The synaptic Gospels, and the claims made by Jesus go in hand in hand. No contradictions whatsoever.
The resurrection, the documentation of same also points to the reality that Christ is indeed the Lord God himself.
@Justin Gary Michael Vandeventer won't be able to respect others until he respects himself and.... given his ridiculous comments... how could he?
tree shirt guy seems like he needs to take 10min in the safe space closet , you know the school has one.
Was Cliffe speaking to college students or 4 year olds? I feel like they give out college degrees to anyone these days. God bless Cliffe.
Cliffe just talks to them like they are four year olds. Most of them are probably a lot smarter than him
Cliff has to go for the low hanging fruit.
Those students getting the best education PERIOD!
9:10… here we go with the self victimization
God bless you Cliffe.
*REGARDING THE YOUNG MAN TALKING ABOUT PULSAR LGM1*
His logic is _deeply flawed,_ for he puts forth the proposition that the pulses from the pulsar were...
_"a message that we received, without a designer, without intention"._
...but...uhm... *NO!* The pulsar was _NOT_ broadcasting a *"message",* for by the very definition of the word, in order for it to be a *"message",* it requires two things...
*1)* There needs to be an *actual **_"message"_* ...such as, _"Greetings Earthlings,"_ or _"Please help!"_ etc. etc.
And there was no such thing in the pulsar's signal.
*2)* There needs to be *a messenger!* There was *NO MESSENGER* from the pulsar broadcasting messages.
Then to add insult to injury, the young man attempts to draw parallels with DNA! Uhmmmm... *REALLY???* I can say with all sincerity...and I assure you, I am not saying this for the purpose of insulting the young man, but really...a six year old could understand the absurdity of such a comparison!
DNA is _actual and intentional information,_ whereas the pulsar is merely a phenomenon which arises out of simple physical properties. There is no _information_ from the pulsar.
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By the way, if anyone is interested in the article on the pulsar and the astronomers who discovered it 50-odd years ago, here is a link...
www.space.com/38916-pulsar-discovery-little-green-men.html
Hey man! This is off topic from your comment but I’m a Christian and these questions pop up in my head a lot and it gets me stuck sometimes:
How truly old is the world because science says billions but the Bible says a couple thousand?
Also, a lot of non believers will ask me “where’s the evidence/scientific evidence of God?” Do you know how I can maybe respond to that?
@@koolaidman4461 two good questions. First. The age of the earth question is sort of weird to me. Personally, I just don't care. No matter what view you take, you'll have to make certain assumptions that you can't prove. Maybe I'm wrong but since the earth's age isn't a salvation matter, I spend no time worrying about it.
Second, if someone asks for scientific evidence for God, it isn't you that needs to work on your answer, it's them that needs to work on their question.
Science being the study of the physical has nothing to say about the non physical. It's an error in reasoning to even ask the question that way.
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 If your god enters our reality to answer prayers etc, then science should be able to detect it. What's unreasonable about that? Have we ever demonstrated anything that came from a non physical source?
@@colinmatts I can only assume that your reply made sense to you in this context.
And 8 has no material source but we've been over that and you we'l never understand the point because you have a warped sense of reality .
Metaphysical realities are axiomatic and they're everywhere.
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 I appreciate your answer and your time. This helps a lot man. God bless!
Prayers for the young man I continue to see pacing back and forth as he has something going in his life that's hard. 20:57 I recognized him from a Different video where he had a hard time discussing/conversating with cliffe
He's gotta be on something. You never know what these kids do on their own time.
9:15
That punk is trying to twist Cliffe's arguments into ad hominem-esque assaults.
He is not being intellectually honest.
Such is the temptation in these universities apparently, attack the man if you cannot best the argument.
Do you think Cliffe presents a sound argument for the existence of a god?
I wish I get the opportunity to meet Cliff one day.
Without Jesus and the prophets before Him.. this entire world would be doomed!! The replies of these students are mind boggling! 🤦🏻♂️
How so - how have you determined this Jesus ever existed?
@@theoskeptomai2535 The Romans and Jews wrote about Jesus.
Um you know what year it is right?
@@uSpeakTruth Really? Now listen carefully. Name ONE and only ONE Roman or Jew who wrote about Jesus. If you provide a list of persons, I will know you are ignorant and not willing to discuss your assertion.
After you identify ONE person, I will have a series of questions to ask. They will be questions that only require a yes, no, or short phrase answer. If you do not answer the questions simply and directly, I will end the discussion. Once we come to a resolution concerning whether or not your first selection wrote about Jesus, you can then select another ONE until we come to a resolution on that selection.
If you haven't studied the historicity of Jesus extensively _on your own_ and rely only on what you've read from Christian apologists and Dr. Erdman, you will look foolish, and that is not my intent. My intent is for you to examine what you have asserted.
If you can deal with that, then kindly identify by name a Roman or Jew that wrote about Jesus. Just the name if the person for now. I do not need or desire a lecture. So name this 1st person who wrote about Jesus.
@Justin Gary Are you now willing to answer each and every of my straightforward questions about _Antiquities?_ You see, idiot, I have actually studied FJ. And I doubt if you have read any of FJ's annals.
So are you now willing to answer my questions? Yes or no.
Please have the full video put soon, with parts that continue from the last. The ending was very interesting wanted to see how it ended!
@8:40... Literal Beta Male
Once we realized again that we are all sharing just a fraction of God's life, understanding will come clearly to who believes
Of course that first guy makes such an ignorant statement about a “sky-daddy” and walks away. How someone like that even passes any classes is a mystery to me.
SALVATION IS ONLY IN JESUS CHRIST 🙌. Romans 10:9 Kjv
Yup, billions of souls burn in hell every generation. Yeah, that’s a loving and just God!
@@lightworker4512 so you do understand it. GOD is so loving that he will not force himself upon you. You have free will. You get to make a choice to be with him or separate from him. On top of that he sent his only begotten son JESUS to take your punishment. That's the greatest love ever is that you would be willing to die for your friends. A completely unselfish act 🙌
@@larzman651 I served in the gulf war and was willing to sacrifice my life for my country. Our armed services sacrifice their life for their country. Jesus never sacrificed his life, he is eternal and so are we all. If you were born in India as a Hindu, you would burn in hell
@@lightworker4512 that's fantastic , I served in desert storm as well. Since you are alive and writing you as well as me sacrificed nothing , we followed orders. JESUS sacrificed himself for the remission of all sins as only he could because he was sinless and only GOD can forgive sins. His father YAHWEH rose him from the grave on the 3rd day sealing that we pass through death into life eternal if we are covered in the blood of his SON 🙌. We are all sinners and deserve death but GOD made a way for that to be forgiven. Are you under the assumption you are a good person?
I do wonder sometimes if as a human, I travel to a different world where everything is different. No math, no communication, water is not water (H2O) etc... Everything is different. We are born into this world as it is so we already have assumptions.
Yes we take our world, and it's logic, reason, and choices for granted. Thanks be to God that we are so loved that we can live.
Big fan but how can you say genesis 1&2 is poetry? What evidence is there in Scripture that it’s not literal? I don’t know of any.
I would argue that it’s literal because when God is given the 10 Commandments to the Jews he says you are to work for six days and rest on the seventh just as I had in the creation. They took it literal and still do.
I don't think that Cliff is saying that portion of scripture is make believe. I think he is pointing out that it's not a chronological news paper like account of how things went down. There are mysteries to what is explained to us and not every detail of the creation account was recorded in Genesis (that would be impossible). It would be different if he outright denied the creation itself but he did not. Yes, God rested on the seventh day. But just because he rested on the seventh day doesn't mean that every detail of what He did on the six previous days was recorded in exact detail. Genesis is a abbreviation of what took place, not a history of what took place.
@@1977seabiscuit what makes you think it’s not a history of what took place? I think that’s exactly what it is. I agree that not every tiny detail is there but my point is that I think it’s accurate history and I think it’s a normal seven day week because it says so. And there’s nothing in the scripture to say that it’s poetry or that it’s not literal.
@@sandina2cents779 You said, "I agree that not every tiny detail is there". That's all I am saying. God didn't give Moses every detail, because it would be more than Moses could handle or we could handle. In The end Christ treated Gensis as truth, and so I must do the same. I just don't think every detail is given to us. I would never go as far as label Genesis as poetry but the greater point is that Cliff and I would agree that there was a creation, that there was a perfect creation and then a fall. Neither of us would call Genesis fiction, but rather a abbreviated account that we could wrap our minds around.
@@1977seabiscuit A ‘perfect’ creation can’t make an ‘imperfect’ choice. If supposed ‘creation’ were ‘perfect’, there would be no possibility of a ‘fall’.
I’m more than happy to call Genesis fiction.
@@darkeen42 I can’t believe I’m actually pointing somebody to Bart Ehrman…. He disagrees that it is written like poetry (except psalms) or like fiction of the time. no true document scholar would agree with you. I think you’re just stating things and haven’t actually done any research. Again, it’s the most historically accurate book in existence. That’s not poetry or fiction. There’s over 24,000 artifacts the back up it’s historical accuracy. They have found cities based on where the Bible said they would be. See…Here I go doing your work for you. nicely played
even how calm his voice is (one strategy in a debate to make you look intellectual and organize, materially, though.). But the words that came out from his mouth is so loud and arrogant.
watch the video before you comment. ✌✝️🙏💞
All aboard the TROLL T-T-T-R-R-R-A-A-A-I-I-I-N-N-N! Get ready! Here they come!
Bonnie < The Little Engine that Can't, Jackal's Gate, ColinMatts, Jsk, Vekyn1, Korpse6Rinder, Sterling Fall Productions, Theo Skeptomia < The sad little caboose who is unhitched from reason.
_Toot! Toot!!_
Just making meself a cup of tea Jesse, .. then I'll enjoy watching the video.. no doubt I'll find something which sparks my interest. I love these interactions between Cliffe and the students. .. as you know. 😍
The Little Engine that Can't is the first to show! _Who's next?_
Plot twist: The troll is you.
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Really? Maybe you could make your case for that? Or maybe you are just... trolling?
God bless him a lot, his job is tough but I'm pretty sure very rewarding,a brave man of God.
Good conversation I wanted the video to continue
15:26 This is always my favorite Cliffe explanation.
If anyone ever finds the complete clip of that last guy's discussion, please let us know. Please, please and please. Thank you.
The guy who said he was projecting was the one projecting. I noticed that ppl have used this "projectibg" trend to pawn off their initial reactionary thoughts on someone else but end up Projecting, being judgemental and intolerant as they claim to not be.
I wouldn't want to project. So may I ask, do you assert any god to be real?
@@theoskeptomai2535 why do you need to know my personal beliefs? What so you can load up a preemptive counterattack and insinuate I'm "stupid, delusional, crazy" which proves nothing. It's none of your business what I believe in.
@@theoskeptomai2535 this is the problem these days it doesn't matter what you believe ppl just want to tell you your "wrong" and they have so-called superior comprehensive abilities. It's a game and nothing more I want no part of. You want an argument go to you local political building or university and have fun.
@@jensbasement3862 I never needed to know your personal beliefs. And _now_ I don't even care to. Have a good evening.
@@jensbasement3862 I think Theo Skeptomai scrolls through the comments all day long long for someone to argue with. Nice job denying him the opportunity.
Thank you cliff for these videos the mean alot :)
The guy in the black shirt with the tree on it, wanted to sound so smart he sounded stupid! And was refuted so quickly. He had no choice but to leave defeated
Cliffe- have I answered your question?
Girl- new question
The 28:26 be killing me bro be burning for more😆🙏🏾🏁
Praise Christ everyone
“Little Children love ye one another”
He says that it is impossible for life to come from non-life.
He is implying that a living thing cannot be born from a non-living thing, but when the question of life and its essence is explored further, we find that "life" is more than just what comes out of what, and that it can in fact come from something that is "non-living."
We are all made of the same non-living elements that exist in the universe (iron, zinc, potassium, calcium, etc). The right combination of these non-living elements is what is ultimately responsible for the formation of life, firstly as single-celled organisms. The cell wall is made of some combination of those elements, so is the nucleus of that cell, the membranes, and so one. From there, the evolutionary process is responsible for the variety of shapes that we see in nature and the complexity of organisms. Yes, these same non-living molecules can also come together to form non-living things.
All things, living and non-living, come from the same fundamental, non-living elements found in nature.
I feel like that argument was an easy one to refute. It is unfortunate that no one had the insight to attack his argument with that approach.
Question: yes, I agree with some of your thoughts. Consider though something is missing, a big part of your thought process, if what you say is true, wouldn't science already have "created" a living organism with non-living structures?
@@coreywatson1093 Why would you think that? Would you expect science to already have "created" a galaxy? Scientist know quite a lot about galaxies, correct?
thanks lord for this man🙌🙌
Losing in a debate, he is filled with so much pride, that he argues a rock is living 🤣 flippin blind
I really don't understand why more people have a hard time understanding the fact Jesus christ was and is our human savior. I don't agree with giving us a choice to choose our fate. I want to be told what to do so I do not screw up life and disappoint our creator, just my thoughts but true. Father control my everything, so I am to be with you I so long to be forgiven because I am a sinner and want your loving hands to guide me please my lord I will always love you your son Robert. Does anyone feel the same way, or am I alone in thinking this way, and thank you, Cliff, for your words today
Please come to Eastern Washington University! We need your wisdom!
NOOOOOOOO IT WAS GETTING SO GOOOOOODDDDDD
Never thought I’d hear Cliffe say “sky daddy”
I pray these kids give their lives to the Lord. Eternity is no joke.
Simply ask these people who don't know what life means, if they believe murder is wrong.
The sabbath was made for man to bless him.
On the 7th day sabbath there exists on this day of the week only, an almost imperceptible level of stronger concentration to tap into, that provides a greater clarity of thought, that’s not available in the same concentrated way, on the other 6 days of the week.
However to obtain the maximum benefits of the sabbath we need to keep it holy.
We achieve this by ceasing from as much work as possible, and thereby take a break from admiring our working achievements for a day.
And also on this day we cease from our own pleasures as instructed in Isaiah 58.
And from abstaining from this motivation for a day, of admiring our achievements, we admire God in a purer way. This is holiness. Because its not contaminated by admiring ourselves, which we do on the other 6 days of the week.
This appreciation or admiration of our own achievements is a healthy God given motivation, whether they be big or small or minuscule achievements.
And this 7th day sabbath blessing will bleed into the other 6 days resulting in an improved intellect.