I notice people often criticize Paul for seeking Pugh's hand, but he is not only following the narrow golden path he perceives as the only way to secure the best future, but he also sees it as a necessary political marriage to gain favor with other houses and legitimize his claim to the throne. Despite resisting his visions for the longest time, believing he can avoid the direst consequences, once he acknowledges the inevitability of his path and the fact that his family and the Fremen won't be safe and free without his own moral and ethical sacrifices, he embraces it.
There’s also a bit more to it. Paul got both Chani and Irulan. But Irulan is only Paul’s wife in name only. And as Jessica said, “those of us who bear the name concubine, history will call us wives.”
@@tgiacin435rly wish they included Shani and Jessica's conversations on love and what it means to be a concubine compared to the Queens situation would ease a lot of the hate
Way too many people act like that was a rushed decision or Paul is following his mom's advice when this was his plan even before the second movie started. He literally states that plan in part 1.
18:05, The spice melange improves health, extends life and expands the mind. Because the Fremen live on Arrakas they are constantly getting spice in their air and diet, they are kinda high and physically super charged all the time. The Emperor's Sardaukar troops (the guys in white with the fishbowl helmets) are supposed to be the deadliest fighters in the Imperium. But the Fremen just mop them up like they are a bunch of clowns.
correct - also in the books it explains that at this point in the Emperor's reign, the Sardaukar have lost a little of their edge primarily due to the fact they live like Kings on their home world and have too many soft comforts, as well as the fact they hardly have to fight anyone anymore because more forces simply surrender when they turn up, so yeah the Fremen are much more battle hardened than they are now
@@Killerkwoi13 it wasn’t that they went soft. You can’t really go soft on a planet like selusa. It’s that the fremen and sardukar lived and trained on unforgiving planets. But the difference is the sardukar train like an army, while the fremen has their community backing each other up. You have fremen sacrificing themselves for the benefit of the tribe
28:12 The actor playing the last Atreides soldier is Lt. Lanville who was in several scenes of the first movie. He is played by Roger Yuan who is also the fight coordinator of the movie.
In terms of Paul becoming the villain, since he has seen all possible futures he knows the only path forward to prevent the worst possible future from occurring, the golden path, and has to do some shit in order to bring about the best outcome.
There is also no one who can fact check him. Frank Herbert has spoken about how delusion and self-justification of power can corrupt anyone, even ones we might think are the 'hero'.
It's not black and white. At the end of the day he chooses the future, so he is simply choosing the future he thinks is best. That doesn't mean it is best.
@@joeyrobertson9523 People are often too quick to take paul's vision for granted like he MUST know the 'best' way forward, but as you say, it's just as likely that he doesn't, only assumes he does. And backed by his seemingly supernatural abilities, he can only be assured he's making the right decisions.
50:25 Sooo many changes from the book. Chani and Jessica were thick as thieves and worked together to help Paul. Because they were together for like 3 years before the final battle, Chani had Paul’s son. She knew she would have to stand by Paul as his concubine but not his wife. Paul marries the Princess Irulan and puts her up in a nice place but goes home to Chani. He never even touches or shows any affection to Irulan. There is a funny scene in the 2nd book where Irulan is feeling slighted and tries to make demands on Paul as his wife. Paul just looks at her and says “Irulan you were chosen to play a role. You know who my real wife is”. She storms out of the place in a huff. Chani comes right in after with a cup of coffee like “Is that chick still tripping on the marriage baby?”
This adaptation changes that dynamic slightly though. People seem to want to keep comparing it to the events in the book but it was adapted/changed for a reason. To work better as a movie. So in THIS version of Dune, no, Chani does not feel like Irulan is just for show and that she is still Paul's 'concubine'. The story has been adapted, and doesn't need to follow the books like a direct script-to-screen.
Another thing i love about Mellow’s edits are the length…this movie’s edit is over an hour long (which it deserves to be), other channels reaction to this have been as low as an 18 min edit! When I edit for YT channels I also try to edit the reaction so even if you haven’t seen the movie, you’ll fully understand it. Mellow knows this and it’s yet another reason why he’s so good.
Seeing this film in IMAX(3 times) everything you loved and moments that got you…multiply that times 100. The sound system. The screen size. It made this epic masterpiece truly the most amazing cinema experience in decades. Not hyperbole. Not since my lil a$$ sat watching Empire Strikes Back at the Continental(long gone theater with imax size screen long before imax) in Tulsa, Oklahoma did a movie have my jaw dropped and eyes wide without blinking as a sat frozen in my seat for the entire film. Even Spielberg said it’s the best science fiction film he’s ever seen. It’s a perfect film in my opinion.
Thank you for giving Austin Butler due props. He’s a great actor and there is some weird bandwagon effect happening online against him. Kick rocks, haters.
Bunch of chronically online losers who get all their personality from the culture they either consume or find it fashionable to hate on. Can't stand people like that, but thankfully they seem to only really exist online. People don't usually act like total ass-hats in person talking about this stuff, and if they do it is SUPER CRINGE.
I like that Paul’s inner conflict about the golden path is externalised with Stilgar and Chani. In other versions they are merely there. Even though Chani in the novels has no lasting qualms about the political marriage, I like the feeling of betrayal Chani has. It puts a face to Paul’s control over the Fremen and using them for his play for power.
7:30 When Paul and Jessica first met the Fremen in the desert (at the end of Part 1), the Fremen discovered Paul and Jessica were carrying around 2 liters of water (called "literjons" in the book). The Fremen were amazed that they were walking around with a fortune in water. Spice is the most expensive substance in the universe. On Arrakis, it is worth less but is still incredibly expensive. But on Arrakis, water is worth more than spice. In the novels, there are clues that suggest the greatest crime in Fremen society is for one Fremen to kill another Fremen to steal their water.
10:14 She's talking about Alia. When Jessica drank the Water of Life to become a Reverend Mother, it also turned her baby (Alia) into a Reverend Mother. Alia gained all the memories of past Reverend Mothers that Jessica did. Alia is fully aware and conscious while still in the womb. Mentally, Alia is almost a fully functional adult stuck in the body of a fetus.
Technically Paul becomes a villain, and that was certainly one of Frank Herbert's main messages in the book. But it should be pointed out that his situation isn't just about corruption of power by Paul. For one, his lineage and upbringing were designed by the Bene Gesserit. For another, the prophesy on Arakkis was also a BG plot. And then on top of all that was the very real situation that everyone was exploiting Arakkis at the expense of the Fremen (as horrible as the Harkonnens were, the fact of the matter is that nobody except the Atreides every gave a shit about them, and even that relationship was political). When Paul said his visions were clear, he could see there were basically two options: 1, lose the war, fremen are killed and repressed again, and there is no justice for his family. Or 2, he unites the fremen by hijacking the BG's religious plots, become the Kwizatz Haderach/Lisan Al Giab, and takes control of Arrakkis. The problem with option 2 is that once he gets the fremen rolling, they were inevitably going to start a Holy War. At the end of the movie, when they say the other Great Houses won't accept his ascendancy, its seals the deal. The Great Houses won't let Paul become Emperor (thus having say over what happens to Arakkis), so the only thing left is to lead the fremen to gain their freedom at the cost of billions of lives in a Jihad (which is what it was called in the books).
Dune Part One was completely necessary especially for those who are not familiar with the books. To appreciate Part Two, one has to digest the world building background in the first part.
39:50 For thousands of years, the Bene Gesserit have been running a breeding program to produce the Kwisatz Haderach. The Bene Gesserit wanted a Harkonnen daughter to be wed to an Atreides son (Leto and Jessica). They then wanted Jessica to have a daughter who would then be wed back into the Harkonnen bloodline, which would have been Jessica's daughter married to Feyd-Rautha. It is suggested that the purpose of this inbreeding was to remove the defiant attitudes that had been showing up in the Atreides. It is not stated outright, but I think the Bene Gesserit expected the child of Feyd-Rautha was going to be the Kwisatz Haderach. However, Jessica cocked up those plans when she had Paul instead of a daughter.
The eclipse shot at the beginning of the movie is actually real. There was a partial eclipse during filming and they shot it in case they wanted to add it to the movie
@@endlesskev "gurney will open the way for you...." and "remember i need the emperor alive" What part of both of those statements allow for nuking the emperor with a direct hit? lol. It's clear as day, it just doesn't hold your hand and respects the audience's intelligence.
40:15 In the books we found out that Jessica is the Baron’s daughter before Paul and his mom meet the Fremen in the desert. But I like that the director moved that reveal to later in the movie. Paul and Jessica are from a family of psycho thugs. So when Paul said “We have to be Harkonnen’s to survive” I knew he meant they got out thug their relatives. Fun fact the Emperor was actually a cousin to Paul’s dad Duke Leto. The old scheming Reverend Mother was revealed to be Jessica’s mom in a Dune prequel book. So basically all of their deadliest enemies are actually their own family.
it also reflects something gurney said when preparing Paul for the move to Arrakis in pt one, "you don't know the harkonnens, they're not human they're brutal" so when Paul says they will have to be harkonnens to follow the golden path he's saying he'll have to leave behind his atreides principals (his humanity) and be a harkonnen (a brutal leader)
4:38 In the Duniverse, the primary personal weapons are laser guns (lasguns) and swords/daggers. Because of shield technology, projectile weapons are not used for combat, as they would just harmlessly bounce off the shield. There are probably sport hunting projectile weapons floating around, but they aren't used for combat troops. The exception are the Fremen, who use "maula pistols", which fire poisoned darts. The pistol that Paul took from Jamis in the first film was a maula pistol. Using lasguns in the Duniverse is a risky option. When a lasgun intersects a shield, you wind up with an atomic explosion. I don't recall the yield being mentioned in the novels, but it is mentioned that both target and attacker would be destroyed.
@@sonofmoss I'm not so certain about that. I suspect the yield of a lasgun/shield interaction would be low enough that it would just be written off as a weapon interaction. In the first novel, there is an explosion when the Harkonnens hit a shield that was turned up to full power by Duncan Idaho as a trap. I got the sense that the destruction was on the order of several city blocks. I doubt much fuss would be made over it, as invoking the Great Convention against atomics against humans would be a huge headache, as the punishment is the complete destruction of the attacking House's planet. Paul references this when he blasts a hole in the shield wall. He mentions that the legalists will be looking for any excuse to avoid saying that it violated the Great Convention against atomics. (However, this may have been a special case with Arrakis, as NO ONE wanted to destroy the planet with all of its spice.)
@@ccl7983 I can see that but Vader became a tyrant for the empire to crush a rebellion. Paul became a tyrant after fighting in a rebellion against the empire. Hmm. Now that I think about it, Lukas knew Dune well and may have even intentionally written Vader as Paul's thematic opposite. haha
3:30 In the novels, the time difference is a little over 3 years. At the end of the novel, I believe Alia is 3 years old, a full reverend mother, talking like an adult. She is the one who kills the Baron.) In the film, I believe the difference is a few weeks or months.
I knew surely there would be some people hatin in the comments of the first video but I’m really surprised how much there was/you seen and felt from it. I love the movies and the og story, but I still really enjoyed your reaction. Like it didn’t hinder anything. I just appreciate hearing your thoughts and seein how excited you get, especially in this one! ❤
there are a lot of other channels that react to movies, a lot of good ones that I'm subscribed to, but Mell, I LOVE your reactions, so when I see you reacting to a movie I like, I can't click on that thumbnail fast enough!🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
17:33, remember Dr. Kynes the black lady in the first movie? Well in the Dune books Dr. Kynes was a man and Chani's father. But when they gender swapped that character they broke the family connection as well. In the books Paul and Chani both lost their fathers in the same Harkonnen attack. That mutual trauma was one of the things (and Paul's dreams) that drew them together.
As I understand it Denis said in an interview chani is still the daughter of kynes, it’s just one of the unsaid things like mentats existing but never explicitly called by name in the movies just to not bog down the movie with 100 things to remember
7:17 Stilgar is saying that when the Fremen have collected enough water, they will use it to grow plants on the surface. I don't have the novel on hand to check, but I seem to recal Liet-Kynes (the planetary ecologist) estimated that if the Fremen could get 3% of the planet covered with plant life, it would create a self-sustaining system that wouldn't need Fremen intervention to keep alive. The water being sacred has to do with Liet-Kynes' father Pardot Kynes. He was the planetary ecologist assigned to Arrakis by the Emperor. After Pardot met the Fremen, he tried to explain to them that it was scientifically possible to turn Arrakis into a planet with lots of plant life. The Fremen didn't know what to do with him. His ideas sounded crazy. They sent Uliet, a Fremen warrior, to kill him. Pardot was busy talking about hidden wind traps the way absent minded professors do when Uliet approached him. Pardot had no idea what Uliet planned, and said "Remove yourself" just to get rid of the distraction Uliet was making. Uliet (probably listening to Pardot's dreams for Arrakis) took 3 steps then fell on his own crysknife. This act convinced the Fremen that God had brought Pardot to the Fremen, and that the dream of changing Arrakis was sacred. So for the Fremen, ANYTHING having to do with changing Arrakis is sacred, and has the highest priority. Getting rid of the Harkonnens is just one step in the sacred plan.
6:25 The Fremen have a couple of methods of long-distance communication. As a last resort, they'll use radios, but they prefer to use flying animals to convey messages. Birds are most commonly used, but bats are preferred for more covert messages, as they fly at night. A technology called a "distrans" is implanted in the animal. The sender tells the message to the bird/bat, then the receiver uses a code word/phrase which commands the animal to repeat the message. This is why the scene where the Harkonnens were burning the birds were important (aside from showing them as being monsters).
Seeing the worm riding scene in an IMAX Theater with Hans Zimmer’s music blasting through the speakers was an unreal cinematic experience! Goosebumps all around!
EVERYTHING sounded amazing in theaters from this movie! Especially the music when they showed Geidi Prime! The scene where we meet Feyd-Rautha and seeing Giedi Prime was easily my favorite part besides that fight scene at the end between him and Paul
6:09 Stilgar is making the sound of a desert animal or bird (I'm not sure which). The Fremen only allow themselves to make the sounds you would naturally hear in the desert. Except in emergencies, they always travel in a military troop, and the rear guard has the job of making sure their passage leaves no trace.
- When the Reverend mother said "Abomination", it was actually addressed to Jessica to her child and not to Paul, imagine a child who died as a little girl in the womb becoming an adult immediately because of the Water of Life and also from a witch! - Paul could have killed Feyd with just his Voice, but he didn't because he saw a vision that he had to defeat him in a duel - In the books, Emperor Shaddam 4 was a 70-year-old grandfather with the appearance of a young man because of the use of Spice in a uniform and with regalia, in the film it's not a powerful old man in a tunic that completely sucks - A Princess Irulan keeps a diary from beginning to end because he knows how Paul's life will end - "Lead them to paradise" can be interpreted in different ways as a crusade and a massacre for the sake of Muad'ib's religion, his homeland is Kaladan and looks like a paradise with seas and flora, the destruction of all houses...
7:00 Actually, a lot of the water is from "moisture traps". It is similar to a "wind trap". Wind blows hot air into the opening of the trap, and is funneled underground where it is cooler. The moisture condenses and is captured. Arrakis is very dry, but there is still some moisture in the air. I don't know if Frank Herbert ever gave a percentage, but I'm guessing it would be about 10% to 20% humidity. The heat would likely feel less uncomfortable, but the evaporation rate would make keeping hydrated more critical . As a side note, wanna guess where George Lucas got moisture farming and moisture vaporators...
42:30 Because the Bene Gesserit Order were running their breeding program, they absolutely know that Jessica is a Harkonnen. However, within the Bene Gesserit, the breeding records (called the "stud records" by some Bene Gesserit) are kept secret on a need-to-know basis.
53:15 The novel ends with Paul marrying Irulan (the Emperor's daughter), but Chani becomes Paul's concubine. But Paul has nothing to do with Irulan, and Chani is his wife in all but name. I understand the change the film made, as it sets the stage for the next novel (Dune Messiah).
16:30 The purpose of the black goo isn't explained. However, I believe it is a healing bath to help him recover from the poison he inhaled in the first film. In real life, there are oxygenated liquids that you can actually breathe. Perfluorocarbon is one example. There are videos on TH-cam showing rats breathing this liquid. Since the Baron inhaled the poison, it makes sense that the treatment would be suspended in a liquid that he can breathe.
25:56 This scene was amazing in 1.43:1 IMAX aspect ratio. With the screen being taller, you got a very different view of the scene. The scene was shot using an infrared filter, which is why it doesn't look like typical black and white. The infrared filter was used to show how the light from the planet's "dark sun" would make everything look. If you pay close attention, the people are in color until they step out into the sunlight.
51:30 The plot armor is still there, its just not detailed in the film. Paul now has all of the powers of a full Reverent Mother. He can control every muscle in his body, change his body chemistry, heart rate, blood pressure, temperature, etc. Getting stabbed is an inconvenience, but not as immediately fatal as you would think.
“Are there other benefits to spice?” Yes. They don’t really go into detail about them in the first movie, but they do generalise with, ‘long lasting life and enormous health benefits.’ Spice can extend one’s lifespan greatly. It can help heal, improve eyesight, enhance hearing, give people foresight and visions, greater intellect, clairvoyance. The downside is that it’s highly addictive. So much so that it becomes an integral part of people’s bodily process, and eventually, they simply can’t live without it - literally.
Just picking one out of a plethora of great performances, but I loved Bautista as Rabban. The whole point of that character was that he was a bully who crumbled under the slightest amount of pressure. A whole lot of other actors (especially big action hero types) would have at least tried to make him kinda sorta cool just to sate their own image. Bautista went full tilt on being a cowardly dog, and I love it.
45:00 The city of Arakeen (where the Emperor landed) is protected by natural cliffs called the "shield wall". Paul blew up a section of the shield wall with atomics.
It does not matter now, the opinion and intent of the author is one interpretation, not the only one, and even Frank Herbert contradicts himself in the creation of the Dune universe, which is fine because it makes it more deep and complex. Art is open for interpretation because is not propaganda, in art you can interpret and take what you find valuable. Many times the author creates something beyond his original intent.
Just like there was very little Chani in the first movie but she's a main character in this one, there's not much of Irulan in this movie but she's got a much bigger role in part 3. And she's a scholar, not a fighter. Each chapter in the novel Dune starts with an excerpt from one of her books. Most of them are about Muad'Dib (Collected Sayings of Muad'Dib; A Child's History of Muad'Dib; The Wisdom of Muad'Dib; Private Reflections on Muad'Dib, etc.), but she also writes about history, she writes biographies and profiles about other characters, analyses of what happened on Arrakis, and more. The last line in the novel tells us that Irulan is somewhat of a tragic figure, but she's much more than that: “See that princess standing there, so haughty and confident. They say she has pretensions of a literary nature. Let us hope she finds solace in such things; she’ll have little else.” A bitter laugh escaped Jessica. “Think on it, Chani: that princess will have the name, yet she’ll live as less than a concubine - never to know a moment of tenderness from the man to whom she’s bound. While we, Chani, we who carry the name of concubine - history will call us wives.”
Fun fact from the books: Originally since Paul was expected to have been born a girl, the mother of the planned Kwizatz Hadarach, the Bene Gessirit's plan was for "her" to have married Feyd Rautha, so if it weren't for Jessica changing up the plans and having a son, Paul would've been Feyd-Rautha's Bride.
14:30 I think most fans would say that the first novel (Dune) and Duncan Idaho are their favorites. I think I'm a weirdo, because my favorites are Paul's son (Leto II) and the 4th novel (God Emperor of Dune).
20:20 The hooks that Paul is using on the worm are called "Maker Hooks". He has 2 of them. To turn the worm, he removes one of the hooks, and then moves it to another location. As the worm turns over to get the exposed sections as far away from the irritating sand a possible, it will turn left or right at the same time.
The nukes weren't supposed to hit the Emperor's fortifications (remember they need him alive), they were aimed at the mountains that shield the area from the storm. They opened a path for the storm to come through. And the Worms I guess, even though technically all the riders on the worms would prolly get irradiated. Maybe they fixed that problem in the future!
Paul saw only one way out in viewing all possible futures. He used the prophecy to his advantage to get revenge but also he does have legitimate powers of foresight. Once he could see all possible futures he also saw the end of humanity as a species and so he has started on the "Golden Path" to keep humanity alive into the future, although horror and atrocity are the requirements to ensure humanity survives in the long run.
I'm amazed how some people completely miss the point of this film, being the false Messiah narrative, blind fanatism and following charismatic leaders who promise everything. Once Paul gives in he essentially becomes the villain. Frank Herbert who wrote the book said take the book as a warning. Once Dune Messiah comes out it'll make a lot more sense, Paul's Arc.
16:00 The sietches have door seals so that moisture doesn't escape. The stilltents have door seals, and the tent fabric collects moisture and stores it in a catchpocket that you can drink from. I'm not sure how a stilltent would handle a thicker kind of moisture though...
9:58 One of the things about religion in Dune is that the Bene Gesserit have been manipulating every religion for centuries. In the novels, this is a closely guarded secret within the Bene Gesserit. In the film, they changed this so that the audience could get a sense of what the Bene Gesserit were doing to the Fremen religion. The problem is that it is unclear if the Bene Gesserit manipulation is actually a part of God's plan. This is definitely the case in the novels written by Frank Herbert. I prefer to not think about the novels written by his son and Kevin J. Anderson.
They changed Chani a bit to suit the times, which was probably for the best, but in the original she does understand that Paul marrying the princess is a political move. Jessica even outright states it: “Think on it, Chani: the princess will have the name, yet she'll live as less than a concubine - never to know a moment of tenderness from the man to whom she's bound. While we, Chani, we who carry the name of concubine - history will call us wives.”
21:20 In the film, there seems to be more emphasis on Paul seeking revenge. In the novel, it is almost entirely about Paul trying to avoid the jihad that will be carried out in his name when he takes power. (I know avoiding the jihad is mentioned several times in the film, but in the novel it is a monster that is constantly looming over Paul.
16:32 "Why does he keep going in that black goo again?" Dr Yueh and Leto's poison wrecked his lungs. Spice heals, so he bathes in it. He wasn't in good health beforehand having acquired a brittle bone disease, hence his floating device and overweight, but the breathing device and need for spice baths is new. In the book Stilgar is Chani's uncle on her Fremen side. That has been excised in the film due to Villeneuve wanting to lampshade Frank Herbert's view of messianic religion, hence Stilgar is southern and Chani is northern. Dr Kynes, the Imperial ecologist, is Chani's mother (father in the book), though the relationship isn't mentioned. Presumably her father was Dr Kynes's Fremen lover who died in battle. The sandworm sequence was done as "practical" as possible. I believe a stunt man had to go into a wind tunnel and have sand thrown at him.
In the book Chani gives a little push back about the prophecy but eventually supports Paul in full she understood the marriage proposal. But idk I guess they wanted to do a message about colonization or something. I just don't know what route they're going to take to get to where Chani, Paul, and Irula are in the book's. Or if they're just going to veer off completely. Denis Villenueve seems to respect the source marerial a lot. So I'll hold of any judgments until the 3rd movie.
27:00 In the Harkonnen gladiatorial combat, slaves are often used as fighters. The slaves are drugged. In this instance, the Baron wanted to turn Feyd-Rautha into a hero. Fans of the games are VERY familiar with how drugged slaves move and fight. They would DEFINITELY spot a slave who was not drugged. By fighting an un-drugged slave, the fans would know that Feyd was in greater danger than normal. Most would assume that some traitor had not drugged the slave. Feyd winning despite the treachery made him a hero.
Such a great reaction! Thank you! This was like my internal monologue the whole movie lol (and I've read the books! So I knew, in general what to expect, but I was STILL shook). The whole team absolutely cooked with this film.
18:00 They just barely touched on the effects of Spice in the first movie. It has geriatric properties that can allow a normal human to live around 300 years. It is never made clear if the spice slows the affect of aging on your body (you're 70 but look 30), or if it just allows you to grow older than normal (you're 300 years old and look like Gollum). Spice gives immunity to most of the common poisons. Spice is also addictive. Spice withdrawal is supposed to be especially nasty. Finally, spice is mind-altering. Because of his genetics and training, Paul is able to see the future. The Bene Gesserit use the Water of Life (concentrated spice) to become Reverend Mothers, which unlocks the ancestral memories of every genetic ancestor on the female side. When Paul took the Water of Life, it unlocked his genetic ancestral memories on the male AND female side. As for asking questions, it should be obvious by now that I ABSOLUTELY LOVE answering questions about the Duniverse.
34:45 That is a vision of what would happen to the Fremen if Paul used the atomic weapons on the Harkonnens. The Empire is VERY strict about using atomic weapons on humans. The Great Convention lays down the punishment: planetary obliteration. This is why the Harkonnens never risked dropping atomic weapons on the Atreides. If they did, then the Emperor and every Great House would turn the Harkonnen homeworld (Geidi Prime) into radioactive slag.
17:45 There isn't an exact moment when you get the blue eyes of spice addiction. It's more gradual, like spending a summer building up a good sun tan. The one exception might be drinking the Water of Life. It is such a concentrated form of Spice that it may be instantaneous.
12:45 Think of the Fremen as light fighters who focus on stealth. The Harkonnens focus on heavier armor and weaponry. The Harkonnen gear is suitable when fighting shielded opponents who have swords. However, the faster Fremen run rings around the Harkonnens.
28:00 The Harkonnen gladiator fights have some similarities with Spanish bullfighting. Everyone knows about the matador who holds the cape taunting the bull. What most people don't know about are the "picadors" who jab the bull with lances. It's certainly unfair, but I wouldn't call it cheating (breaking the rules).
9:10 "What about the baby?" One thing to keep in mind about Jessica is that, at this moment, she is focused on securing a safe place for Paul and herself (in that order). Although she certainly would like to keep her baby, that was secondary. The Bene Gesserit train their students to be practical. This training didn't work completely on Jessica, as she disobeyed the Bene Gesserit to give Leto the son he wanted instead of the daughter the Bene Gesserit ordered. But here with the Fremen, Paul and Jessica are in a very precarious situation and could be killed. Therefore, she had to risk her baby. The Bene Gesserit didn't tell Jessica much about the process of becoming a Reverend Mother. Obviously Jessica knew that what affected her would affect her baby. However, I don't think Jessica knew exactly what the Water of Life would do to Alia.
I agree that Austin Butler did the best performance and was very impactful with everything he did on screen, even though he had a limited amount of screen time. The Giedi Prime sequence was on another level.
Love the religious/philosophical themes: its easy to dismiss a prophecy of you becoming a Messiah, especially when you know the prophecy is a lie, but when you have mind control powers, and you get the ability to see the past AND future, then you understandably will start acting differently
as a big book fan, my favorite character is probably duncan idaho for reasons that may end up being spoilers for later movies. paul is a great tragic character too, he's like the protagonist from an ancient greek myth; he may be the main character but his actions aren't always good
Villenueve made some interesting changes from the book, one of which is the split in Fremen politics/religiosity between the southern fundamentalists and more secular, northern sietches. Another is Chani's place in it and her relationship with Paul. In the book, all the Fremen, including Chani, are ready and willing to be Paul's unwitting tool in his revenge and to fulfil his "Golden Path". There are differences in Fremen's intensity of religiosity and adherence to their "true" culture , but it is not a central point of conflict. And Chani submits willingly to her role as concubine. These are interesting and thought-provoking changes.
also on your comment about chani's parentage being unclear: liet kynes, the doctor from the first movie was gender swapped, in the books he is chani's father and stilgar is her uncle. they dont express any of these familial relationships in the movie but it is explained in the book
wonderful reaction, mate. I've been a fan of Dune (Books and Villeneuve) for a while now and I'm very happy that you enjoyed Part 2 and I hope you can reconsider and give new meaning to Part 1 since both films watched together makes them more wonderful, as the work is fundamental to the inspiration of many other franchises we love in pop culture in addition to talking about the control that religious institutions have over the people and not trusting charismatic leaders
When I saw the cool costumes in the arena, I nearly shouted "HEARTLESS!" I played Kingdom Hearts and they really channelled that in the character design. I'm all for the Austin Butler defense. His performance in this and in Masters of the Air made it his year.
53:25 The jihad was going to happen with or without Paul. Paul needed to become Emperor so that he could keep the jihad from getting out of hand. Even still, by the end of the jihad, 61 billion people had been killed, 90 planets had been sterilized, 500 worlds were demoralized. Also, 40 different religions were wiped out along with all of their followers.
yea the dune movies are amazing i dont get how people dont like them. the story and world building are great! i can understand how it can be confusing at first but all i did before watching the first movie was read an article on all the things i needed to know like the houses and the specific terms used in the books that might confuse you. the two dune movies are some of the greatest movies i have ever seen. im hyped for the third one
The death of the Baron is crazier in the book : killed by Alia the baby (yes ! the time is longer in the book), 4 years old, with a poisonous gom jabar needle in the room
I thought it was funny when the princess pleaded for her fathers life saying the throne will be yours. You the first reactor the point out it gonna be his regardless. She had no leverage with that offer 🤣🤣
You should definitely check out society of the snow. It's a great movie and I would love to hear what you have to say about that. If you do watch it I recommend the original language with subtitles, the acting was amazing.
Absolutely. Every time I see those childish idiotic comments, it just bothers the mess out of me. People are so jealous and will just say anything. They think they're so smart but will be sounding so dumb.
@@HelloMellowXVI People just love that sweet sweet dopamine hit they get from hating I guess. Anyway, enjoy your reactions! Sorry you had to deal with some toxic nerds. Most of us aren’t like that, we’re just excited when new fans discover our favorite IP. You were cracking me up and your questions were all totally valid.
Never read the books. But I'm aware of their existence. For me, Dune Part One movie was the first proper introduction into this world. Immediate, I'm a fan. Part Two is what cinema is supposed to be. These are the movies why I pay good money to watch in cinema. IMAX!
one thing that they didn't include from the book was that, the moment paul introduced himself to the fremen, the holy war was bound to happen regardless.. he couldn't stop the holy war from happening no matter what the did
The environment of Dune is so harsh, it is the ultimate survival of the fittest. It requires the strictest of discipline just to survive. If you waste water, your punishment isn't a beating, you die.
In the books, Paul discovers his future sight in the tent we find them in at the end of the 1st movie. There he discovers Jessica is Baron Harkonen's daughter. His future sight is more that he can see a branching web of possible decisions people may or may not take. He cant see the whole thing, and on the horizon there is the holy war jutting up like a mountain. During the book, he precieves that no matter what he does, the war aproaches, sometimes faster, sometimes slower, but it feels inevitable. Eventually, someone does something that he couldn't predict or see, so he drinks the Water of Life. During the fight with Feyd-Rautha, he sees that no matter the outcome, there will be a galaxy spanning war.
He knows if he is atreides/Harkonnen and he marries irulan a corrino he can unite the great houses in power. He never sleeps with her and they never have children. It’s purely political. He takes chani on as a concubine, and because he loves and respects her she has more influence on him and his decisions as a fighter and emperor. Later on, their son Leto II does the same but with his own twin and falladin, irulans nephew
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I notice people often criticize Paul for seeking Pugh's hand, but he is not only following the narrow golden path he perceives as the only way to secure the best future, but he also sees it as a necessary political marriage to gain favor with other houses and legitimize his claim to the throne. Despite resisting his visions for the longest time, believing he can avoid the direst consequences, once he acknowledges the inevitability of his path and the fact that his family and the Fremen won't be safe and free without his own moral and ethical sacrifices, he embraces it.
There’s also a bit more to it. Paul got both Chani and Irulan. But Irulan is only Paul’s wife in name only. And as Jessica said, “those of us who bear the name concubine, history will call us wives.”
@@tgiacin435rly wish they included Shani and Jessica's conversations on love and what it means to be a concubine compared to the Queens situation would ease a lot of the hate
@@jeambeam3173 the thing is in the book, Jessica is the one worrying about Paul’s effect on the fremen. And was there to play mentor to Chani
Way too many people act like that was a rushed decision or Paul is following his mom's advice when this was his plan even before the second movie started. He literally states that plan in part 1.
It also clear it was strictly political which is why he tells her that he will love her as long as he lives
18:05, The spice melange improves health, extends life and expands the mind. Because the Fremen live on Arrakas they are constantly getting spice in their air and diet, they are kinda high and physically super charged all the time.
The Emperor's Sardaukar troops (the guys in white with the fishbowl helmets) are supposed to be the deadliest fighters in the Imperium. But the Fremen just mop them up like they are a bunch of clowns.
And the spice orgies also helped with that
correct - also in the books it explains that at this point in the Emperor's reign, the Sardaukar have lost a little of their edge primarily due to the fact they live like Kings on their home world and have too many soft comforts, as well as the fact they hardly have to fight anyone anymore because more forces simply surrender when they turn up, so yeah the Fremen are much more battle hardened than they are now
@@Killerkwoi13 it wasn’t that they went soft. You can’t really go soft on a planet like selusa. It’s that the fremen and sardukar lived and trained on unforgiving planets. But the difference is the sardukar train like an army, while the fremen has their community backing each other up. You have fremen sacrificing themselves for the benefit of the tribe
Timothee acted the fuck out of that speech @41:34
I agree.
Indeed, I thought he was gonna keep the same demeanor. Nope!
I hate when people mix up cinematography and acting, lol
@@johnjungkook2721 2 things can be true at once. the cinematography AND acting are good. c'mon don't be intentionally thick
28:12 The actor playing the last Atreides soldier is Lt. Lanville who was in several scenes of the first movie. He is played by Roger Yuan who is also the fight coordinator of the movie.
Roger Yuan also played the "Fiendish Dr. Wu" in _Black Dynamite. ("DY-NO-MITE! DY-NO-MITE!")_
@@Wired4Life2 He was also great assassin Lazarus in Walker, Texas Ranger.
@@Wired4Life2 Whaaaat? Bro Dr. Wu was awesome! This guy is a treasure
In terms of Paul becoming the villain, since he has seen all possible futures he knows the only path forward to prevent the worst possible future from occurring, the golden path, and has to do some shit in order to bring about the best outcome.
There is also no one who can fact check him. Frank Herbert has spoken about how delusion and self-justification of power can corrupt anyone, even ones we might think are the 'hero'.
It's not black and white. At the end of the day he chooses the future, so he is simply choosing the future he thinks is best. That doesn't mean it is best.
@@joeyrobertson9523 People are often too quick to take paul's vision for granted like he MUST know the 'best' way forward, but as you say, it's just as likely that he doesn't, only assumes he does. And backed by his seemingly supernatural abilities, he can only be assured he's making the right decisions.
EXACTLYYY
The best outcome for who? Paul himself? It definitely gets him power and revenge.
50:25 Sooo many changes from the book. Chani and Jessica were thick as thieves and worked together to help Paul. Because they were together for like 3 years before the final battle, Chani had Paul’s son. She knew she would have to stand by Paul as his concubine but not his wife.
Paul marries the Princess Irulan and puts her up in a nice place but goes home to Chani. He never even touches or shows any affection to Irulan. There is a funny scene in the 2nd book where Irulan is feeling slighted and tries to make demands on Paul as his wife.
Paul just looks at her and says “Irulan you were chosen to play a role. You know who my real wife is”. She storms out of the place in a huff. Chani comes right in after with a cup of coffee like “Is that chick still tripping on the marriage baby?”
Honestly its a pretty good change imo because lot of people missed the point
This adaptation changes that dynamic slightly though. People seem to want to keep comparing it to the events in the book but it was adapted/changed for a reason. To work better as a movie. So in THIS version of Dune, no, Chani does not feel like Irulan is just for show and that she is still Paul's 'concubine'. The story has been adapted, and doesn't need to follow the books like a direct script-to-screen.
@@samhunt6300 Very good change, for a movie series at the very least.
I think the relationship between Jessica and Chani will somewhat revert to the book version in the 3rd film
@@janellelives5158 it's likely. What will be interesting is seeing how we get there.
You have to remember they’re on a desert planet with no water. That’s why Stilgar is so thirsty lol
bro your little edits when you put yourself in the movie (If that make sense) kills me everytime lol
Mello big ol head in the background while Zendaya and Paul rolling in the tent 😂😂😂
@matthewpollock9685 should've been me!
Yeah, i’d argue Mellow has the best editing of all reactors on YT
@@realitydrip3293 i definitely agree, i appreciate that he does that because it makes him stand out more than all the other movie reactors on YT
Another thing i love about Mellow’s edits are the length…this movie’s edit is over an hour long (which it deserves to be), other channels reaction to this have been as low as an 18 min edit! When I edit for YT channels I also try to edit the reaction so even if you haven’t seen the movie, you’ll fully understand it. Mellow
knows this and it’s yet another reason why he’s so good.
Seeing this film in IMAX(3 times) everything you loved and moments that got you…multiply that times 100. The sound system. The screen size. It made this epic masterpiece truly the most amazing cinema experience in decades. Not hyperbole. Not since my lil a$$ sat watching Empire Strikes Back at the Continental(long gone theater with imax size screen long before imax) in Tulsa, Oklahoma did a movie have my jaw dropped and eyes wide without blinking as a sat frozen in my seat for the entire film. Even Spielberg said it’s the best science fiction film he’s ever seen. It’s a perfect film in my opinion.
Thank you for giving Austin Butler due props. He’s a great actor and there is some weird bandwagon effect happening online against him. Kick rocks, haters.
Bunch of chronically online losers who get all their personality from the culture they either consume or find it fashionable to hate on. Can't stand people like that, but thankfully they seem to only really exist online. People don't usually act like total ass-hats in person talking about this stuff, and if they do it is SUPER CRINGE.
I like that Paul’s inner conflict about the golden path is externalised with Stilgar and Chani. In other versions they are merely there. Even though Chani in the novels has no lasting qualms about the political marriage, I like the feeling of betrayal Chani has. It puts a face to Paul’s control over the Fremen and using them for his play for power.
7:30 When Paul and Jessica first met the Fremen in the desert (at the end of Part 1), the Fremen discovered Paul and Jessica were carrying around 2 liters of water (called "literjons" in the book). The Fremen were amazed that they were walking around with a fortune in water.
Spice is the most expensive substance in the universe. On Arrakis, it is worth less but is still incredibly expensive. But on Arrakis, water is worth more than spice.
In the novels, there are clues that suggest the greatest crime in Fremen society is for one Fremen to kill another Fremen to steal their water.
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Watching this movie in IMAX was an unparalleled experience. Absolutely love this film. Amazing movie. Can't wait to see Dune Messiah
10:14 She's talking about Alia.
When Jessica drank the Water of Life to become a Reverend Mother, it also turned her baby (Alia) into a Reverend Mother. Alia gained all the memories of past Reverend Mothers that Jessica did. Alia is fully aware and conscious while still in the womb. Mentally, Alia is almost a fully functional adult stuck in the body of a fetus.
Technically Paul becomes a villain, and that was certainly one of Frank Herbert's main messages in the book. But it should be pointed out that his situation isn't just about corruption of power by Paul. For one, his lineage and upbringing were designed by the Bene Gesserit. For another, the prophesy on Arakkis was also a BG plot. And then on top of all that was the very real situation that everyone was exploiting Arakkis at the expense of the Fremen (as horrible as the Harkonnens were, the fact of the matter is that nobody except the Atreides every gave a shit about them, and even that relationship was political).
When Paul said his visions were clear, he could see there were basically two options: 1, lose the war, fremen are killed and repressed again, and there is no justice for his family. Or 2, he unites the fremen by hijacking the BG's religious plots, become the Kwizatz Haderach/Lisan Al Giab, and takes control of Arrakkis. The problem with option 2 is that once he gets the fremen rolling, they were inevitably going to start a Holy War. At the end of the movie, when they say the other Great Houses won't accept his ascendancy, its seals the deal. The Great Houses won't let Paul become Emperor (thus having say over what happens to Arakkis), so the only thing left is to lead the fremen to gain their freedom at the cost of billions of lives in a Jihad (which is what it was called in the books).
Dune Part One was completely necessary especially for those who are not familiar with the books. To appreciate Part Two, one has to digest the world building background in the first part.
39:50 For thousands of years, the Bene Gesserit have been running a breeding program to produce the Kwisatz Haderach.
The Bene Gesserit wanted a Harkonnen daughter to be wed to an Atreides son (Leto and Jessica). They then wanted Jessica to have a daughter who would then be wed back into the Harkonnen bloodline, which would have been Jessica's daughter married to Feyd-Rautha.
It is suggested that the purpose of this inbreeding was to remove the defiant attitudes that had been showing up in the Atreides.
It is not stated outright, but I think the Bene Gesserit expected the child of Feyd-Rautha was going to be the Kwisatz Haderach.
However, Jessica cocked up those plans when she had Paul instead of a daughter.
timeline bumped up lol
The eclipse shot at the beginning of the movie is actually real. There was a partial eclipse during filming and they shot it in case they wanted to add it to the movie
45:00 That was exactly as planned: Blow up the mountain range guarding the city from the desert, so the worms can pass through
And the storm...
The film doesn't make that clear, unfortunately
And that it is strictly forbidden to use atomics against people. Directly, anyway. Using them to fling rocks on people is ok.
@@endlesskevpaul clearly said he need the emperor alive
@@endlesskev "gurney will open the way for you...." and "remember i need the emperor alive"
What part of both of those statements allow for nuking the emperor with a direct hit? lol. It's clear as day, it just doesn't hold your hand and respects the audience's intelligence.
40:15 In the books we found out that Jessica is the Baron’s daughter before Paul and his mom meet the Fremen in the desert. But I like that the director moved that reveal to later in the movie.
Paul and Jessica are from a family of psycho thugs. So when Paul said “We have to be Harkonnen’s to survive” I knew he meant they got out thug their relatives.
Fun fact the Emperor was actually a cousin to Paul’s dad Duke Leto. The old scheming Reverend Mother was revealed to be Jessica’s mom in a Dune prequel book. So basically all of their deadliest enemies are actually their own family.
it also reflects something gurney said when preparing Paul for the move to Arrakis in pt one, "you don't know the harkonnens, they're not human they're brutal" so when Paul says they will have to be harkonnens to follow the golden path he's saying he'll have to leave behind his atreides principals (his humanity) and be a harkonnen (a brutal leader)
Part 2 literally starts hours after the first movie. They are still carrying the body after Paul’s first kill
4:38 In the Duniverse, the primary personal weapons are laser guns (lasguns) and swords/daggers. Because of shield technology, projectile weapons are not used for combat, as they would just harmlessly bounce off the shield. There are probably sport hunting projectile weapons floating around, but they aren't used for combat troops. The exception are the Fremen, who use "maula pistols", which fire poisoned darts.
The pistol that Paul took from Jamis in the first film was a maula pistol.
Using lasguns in the Duniverse is a risky option. When a lasgun intersects a shield, you wind up with an atomic explosion. I don't recall the yield being mentioned in the novels, but it is mentioned that both target and attacker would be destroyed.
Also the family of the one who fired the lasgun would be marked as war criminals.
@@sonofmoss I'm not so certain about that. I suspect the yield of a lasgun/shield interaction would be low enough that it would just be written off as a weapon interaction.
In the first novel, there is an explosion when the Harkonnens hit a shield that was turned up to full power by Duncan Idaho as a trap. I got the sense that the destruction was on the order of several city blocks.
I doubt much fuss would be made over it, as invoking the Great Convention against atomics against humans would be a huge headache, as the punishment is the complete destruction of the attacking House's planet.
Paul references this when he blasts a hole in the shield wall. He mentions that the legalists will be looking for any excuse to avoid saying that it violated the Great Convention against atomics. (However, this may have been a special case with Arrakis, as NO ONE wanted to destroy the planet with all of its spice.)
"But I do see a way... there is a narrow way through."
But he is more similar to Vader than Luke Skywalker. But I always seen Paul as what if Vader became emperor of the galaxy
@@ccl7983 I can see that but Vader became a tyrant for the empire to crush a rebellion. Paul became a tyrant after fighting in a rebellion against the empire. Hmm. Now that I think about it, Lukas knew Dune well and may have even intentionally written Vader as Paul's thematic opposite. haha
@@IYAMNI I think he took aspects of Paul to create Vader and Luke’s story
3:30 In the novels, the time difference is a little over 3 years. At the end of the novel, I believe Alia is 3 years old, a full reverend mother, talking like an adult. She is the one who kills the Baron.)
In the film, I believe the difference is a few weeks or months.
I knew surely there would be some people hatin in the comments of the first video but I’m really surprised how much there was/you seen and felt from it. I love the movies and the og story, but I still really enjoyed your reaction. Like it didn’t hinder anything. I just appreciate hearing your thoughts and seein how excited you get, especially in this one! ❤
there are a lot of other channels that react to movies, a lot of good ones that I'm subscribed to, but Mell, I LOVE your reactions, so when I see you reacting to a movie I like, I can't click on that thumbnail fast enough!🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
"I'm scared about this, bro." My good sir, THAT is the correct reaction to that scene. 💯
17:33, remember Dr. Kynes the black lady in the first movie? Well in the Dune books Dr. Kynes was a man and Chani's father.
But when they gender swapped that character they broke the family connection as well. In the books Paul and Chani both lost their fathers in the same Harkonnen attack. That mutual trauma was one of the things (and Paul's dreams) that drew them together.
Awwweee ok, I appreciate that thank you
Stilgar is Chani’s uncle in the novel. Chani’s mother is Stilgar’s sister. Villeneuve also eliminated that connection. ☹️
@@SunsetRogue I wonder why he didn't include that it's such an interesting fact. It would have been cool to see it :(
Kynes lineage is also very important in the transformation of Arrakis (mini God emperor of dune spoiler)
As I understand it Denis said in an interview chani is still the daughter of kynes, it’s just one of the unsaid things like mentats existing but never explicitly called by name in the movies just to not bog down the movie with 100 things to remember
7:17 Stilgar is saying that when the Fremen have collected enough water, they will use it to grow plants on the surface. I don't have the novel on hand to check, but I seem to recal Liet-Kynes (the planetary ecologist) estimated that if the Fremen could get 3% of the planet covered with plant life, it would create a self-sustaining system that wouldn't need Fremen intervention to keep alive.
The water being sacred has to do with Liet-Kynes' father Pardot Kynes. He was the planetary ecologist assigned to Arrakis by the Emperor. After Pardot met the Fremen, he tried to explain to them that it was scientifically possible to turn Arrakis into a planet with lots of plant life.
The Fremen didn't know what to do with him. His ideas sounded crazy. They sent Uliet, a Fremen warrior, to kill him.
Pardot was busy talking about hidden wind traps the way absent minded professors do when Uliet approached him. Pardot had no idea what Uliet planned, and said "Remove yourself" just to get rid of the distraction Uliet was making.
Uliet (probably listening to Pardot's dreams for Arrakis) took 3 steps then fell on his own crysknife.
This act convinced the Fremen that God had brought Pardot to the Fremen, and that the dream of changing Arrakis was sacred.
So for the Fremen, ANYTHING having to do with changing Arrakis is sacred, and has the highest priority. Getting rid of the Harkonnens is just one step in the sacred plan.
6:25 The Fremen have a couple of methods of long-distance communication.
As a last resort, they'll use radios, but they prefer to use flying animals to convey messages. Birds are most commonly used, but bats are preferred for more covert messages, as they fly at night.
A technology called a "distrans" is implanted in the animal. The sender tells the message to the bird/bat, then the receiver uses a code word/phrase which commands the animal to repeat the message. This is why the scene where the Harkonnens were burning the birds were important (aside from showing them as being monsters).
Seeing the worm riding scene in an IMAX Theater with Hans Zimmer’s music blasting through the speakers was an unreal cinematic experience! Goosebumps all around!
EVERYTHING sounded amazing in theaters from this movie! Especially the music when they showed Geidi Prime! The scene where we meet Feyd-Rautha and seeing Giedi Prime was easily my favorite part besides that fight scene at the end between him and Paul
Bro editing had me rolling on the floor! 😂
6:09 Stilgar is making the sound of a desert animal or bird (I'm not sure which).
The Fremen only allow themselves to make the sounds you would naturally hear in the desert. Except in emergencies, they always travel in a military troop, and the rear guard has the job of making sure their passage leaves no trace.
- When the Reverend mother said "Abomination", it was actually addressed to Jessica to her child and not to Paul, imagine a child who died as a little girl in the womb becoming an adult immediately because of the Water of Life and also from a witch!
- Paul could have killed Feyd with just his Voice, but he didn't because he saw a vision that he had to defeat him in a duel
- In the books, Emperor Shaddam 4 was a 70-year-old grandfather with the appearance of a young man because of the use of Spice in a uniform and with regalia, in the film it's not a powerful old man in a tunic that completely sucks
- A Princess Irulan keeps a diary from beginning to end because he knows how Paul's life will end
- "Lead them to paradise" can be interpreted in different ways as a crusade and a massacre for the sake of Muad'ib's religion, his homeland is Kaladan and looks like a paradise with seas and flora, the destruction of all houses...
7:00 Actually, a lot of the water is from "moisture traps". It is similar to a "wind trap". Wind blows hot air into the opening of the trap, and is funneled underground where it is cooler. The moisture condenses and is captured.
Arrakis is very dry, but there is still some moisture in the air. I don't know if Frank Herbert ever gave a percentage, but I'm guessing it would be about 10% to 20% humidity. The heat would likely feel less uncomfortable, but the evaporation rate would make keeping hydrated more critical .
As a side note, wanna guess where George Lucas got moisture farming and moisture vaporators...
42:30 Because the Bene Gesserit Order were running their breeding program, they absolutely know that Jessica is a Harkonnen.
However, within the Bene Gesserit, the breeding records (called the "stud records" by some Bene Gesserit) are kept secret on a need-to-know basis.
26:22 And THAT is how you introduce a villain!
Austin Butler spent 4 months in Budapest, Hungary, training for the role with a former US Navy SEAL!
He is a phenomenal actor with phenomenonal screen presence.
@@phantom213 He said he deliberately mimicked Stellan Skarsgard's voice in the movie.
The best Dune movie in my opinion.
FR, this is one of the few sequels made currently, that outdoes the first one! S+ All the way
I consider the DV movie one film since dune was one book
53:15 The novel ends with Paul marrying Irulan (the Emperor's daughter), but Chani becomes Paul's concubine. But Paul has nothing to do with Irulan, and Chani is his wife in all but name.
I understand the change the film made, as it sets the stage for the next novel (Dune Messiah).
16:30 The purpose of the black goo isn't explained. However, I believe it is a healing bath to help him recover from the poison he inhaled in the first film.
In real life, there are oxygenated liquids that you can actually breathe. Perfluorocarbon is one example. There are videos on TH-cam showing rats breathing this liquid.
Since the Baron inhaled the poison, it makes sense that the treatment would be suspended in a liquid that he can breathe.
25:56 This scene was amazing in 1.43:1 IMAX aspect ratio. With the screen being taller, you got a very different view of the scene.
The scene was shot using an infrared filter, which is why it doesn't look like typical black and white. The infrared filter was used to show how the light from the planet's "dark sun" would make everything look.
If you pay close attention, the people are in color until they step out into the sunlight.
51:30 The plot armor is still there, its just not detailed in the film.
Paul now has all of the powers of a full Reverent Mother. He can control every muscle in his body, change his body chemistry, heart rate, blood pressure, temperature, etc.
Getting stabbed is an inconvenience, but not as immediately fatal as you would think.
Fun fact: when Chani tells Stilgar he's insane, she says the Chakobsa phrase "Zaihaash lek", which is literally "[you] drink sand".
“Are there other benefits to spice?” Yes. They don’t really go into detail about them in the first movie, but they do generalise with, ‘long lasting life and enormous health benefits.’
Spice can extend one’s lifespan greatly. It can help heal, improve eyesight, enhance hearing, give people foresight and visions, greater intellect, clairvoyance.
The downside is that it’s highly addictive. So much so that it becomes an integral part of people’s bodily process, and eventually, they simply can’t live without it - literally.
Just picking one out of a plethora of great performances, but I loved Bautista as Rabban. The whole point of that character was that he was a bully who crumbled under the slightest amount of pressure. A whole lot of other actors (especially big action hero types) would have at least tried to make him kinda sorta cool just to sate their own image. Bautista went full tilt on being a cowardly dog, and I love it.
I felt he was a waste. He literally shouted all his lines. He never had a decent conversation with anyone.
45:00 The city of Arakeen (where the Emperor landed) is protected by natural cliffs called the "shield wall". Paul blew up a section of the shield wall with atomics.
The author has always said the message of the book was that people should not trust charismatic leaders.
It does not matter now, the opinion and intent of the author is one interpretation, not the only one, and even Frank Herbert contradicts himself in the creation of the Dune universe, which is fine because it makes it more deep and complex. Art is open for interpretation because is not propaganda, in art you can interpret and take what you find valuable. Many times the author creates something beyond his original intent.
Just like there was very little Chani in the first movie but she's a main character in this one, there's not much of Irulan in this movie but she's got a much bigger role in part 3. And she's a scholar, not a fighter. Each chapter in the novel Dune starts with an excerpt from one of her books. Most of them are about Muad'Dib (Collected Sayings of Muad'Dib; A Child's History of Muad'Dib; The Wisdom of Muad'Dib; Private Reflections on Muad'Dib, etc.), but she also writes about history, she writes biographies and profiles about other characters, analyses of what happened on Arrakis, and more.
The last line in the novel tells us that Irulan is somewhat of a tragic figure, but she's much more than that: “See that princess standing there, so haughty and confident. They say she has pretensions of a literary nature. Let us hope she finds solace in such things; she’ll have little else.” A bitter laugh escaped Jessica. “Think on it, Chani: that princess will have the name, yet she’ll live as less than a concubine - never to know a moment of tenderness from the man to whom she’s bound. While we, Chani, we who carry the name of concubine - history will call us wives.”
Fun fact from the books: Originally since Paul was expected to have been born a girl, the mother of the planned Kwizatz Hadarach, the Bene Gessirit's plan was for "her" to have married Feyd Rautha, so if it weren't for Jessica changing up the plans and having a son, Paul would've been Feyd-Rautha's Bride.
Biggest plothole of the book. And it's in the first chapter of the book.
14:30 I think most fans would say that the first novel (Dune) and Duncan Idaho are their favorites.
I think I'm a weirdo, because my favorites are Paul's son (Leto II) and the 4th novel (God Emperor of Dune).
20:20 The hooks that Paul is using on the worm are called "Maker Hooks". He has 2 of them. To turn the worm, he removes one of the hooks, and then moves it to another location. As the worm turns over to get the exposed sections as far away from the irritating sand a possible, it will turn left or right at the same time.
The nukes weren't supposed to hit the Emperor's fortifications (remember they need him alive), they were aimed at the mountains that shield the area from the storm. They opened a path for the storm to come through. And the Worms I guess, even though technically all the riders on the worms would prolly get irradiated. Maybe they fixed that problem in the future!
Paul saw only one way out in viewing all possible futures. He used the prophecy to his advantage to get revenge but also he does have legitimate powers of foresight. Once he could see all possible futures he also saw the end of humanity as a species and so he has started on the "Golden Path" to keep humanity alive into the future, although horror and atrocity are the requirements to ensure humanity survives in the long run.
I'm amazed how some people completely miss the point of this film, being the false Messiah narrative, blind fanatism and following charismatic leaders who promise everything. Once Paul gives in he essentially becomes the villain. Frank Herbert who wrote the book said take the book as a warning. Once Dune Messiah comes out it'll make a lot more sense, Paul's Arc.
16:00 The sietches have door seals so that moisture doesn't escape. The stilltents have door seals, and the tent fabric collects moisture and stores it in a catchpocket that you can drink from.
I'm not sure how a stilltent would handle a thicker kind of moisture though...
9:58 One of the things about religion in Dune is that the Bene Gesserit have been manipulating every religion for centuries.
In the novels, this is a closely guarded secret within the Bene Gesserit. In the film, they changed this so that the audience could get a sense of what the Bene Gesserit were doing to the Fremen religion.
The problem is that it is unclear if the Bene Gesserit manipulation is actually a part of God's plan. This is definitely the case in the novels written by Frank Herbert. I prefer to not think about the novels written by his son and Kevin J. Anderson.
They changed Chani a bit to suit the times, which was probably for the best, but in the original she does understand that Paul marrying the princess is a political move. Jessica even outright states it: “Think on it, Chani: the princess will have the name, yet she'll live as less than a concubine - never to know a moment of tenderness from the man to whom she's bound. While we, Chani, we who carry the name of concubine - history will call us wives.”
22:40 Rabban is particularly afraid of the Baron's wrath because the Baron's punishments tend to be, um...extravagant.
I saw Dune Part 2 in IMAX. IT WAS INCREDIBLE!! This movie is easily the best film of 2024 (so far). Great reaction Mello! 👍🏿
21:20 In the film, there seems to be more emphasis on Paul seeking revenge. In the novel, it is almost entirely about Paul trying to avoid the jihad that will be carried out in his name when he takes power.
(I know avoiding the jihad is mentioned several times in the film, but in the novel it is a monster that is constantly looming over Paul.
16:32 "Why does he keep going in that black goo again?" Dr Yueh and Leto's poison wrecked his lungs. Spice heals, so he bathes in it. He wasn't in good health beforehand having acquired a brittle bone disease, hence his floating device and overweight, but the breathing device and need for spice baths is new.
In the book Stilgar is Chani's uncle on her Fremen side. That has been excised in the film due to Villeneuve wanting to lampshade Frank Herbert's view of messianic religion, hence Stilgar is southern and Chani is northern. Dr Kynes, the Imperial ecologist, is Chani's mother (father in the book), though the relationship isn't mentioned. Presumably her father was Dr Kynes's Fremen lover who died in battle.
The sandworm sequence was done as "practical" as possible. I believe a stunt man had to go into a wind tunnel and have sand thrown at him.
In the book Chani gives a little push back about the prophecy but eventually supports Paul in full she understood the marriage proposal. But idk I guess they wanted to do a message about colonization or something. I just don't know what route they're going to take to get to where Chani, Paul, and Irula are in the book's. Or if they're just going to veer off completely. Denis Villenueve seems to respect the source marerial a lot. So I'll hold of any judgments until the 3rd movie.
49:55 as a leader u tend to have to not be on the kind side to have a strong empire. Kindness only gets you so far for certain things
27:00 In the Harkonnen gladiatorial combat, slaves are often used as fighters. The slaves are drugged.
In this instance, the Baron wanted to turn Feyd-Rautha into a hero. Fans of the games are VERY familiar with how drugged slaves move and fight. They would DEFINITELY spot a slave who was not drugged.
By fighting an un-drugged slave, the fans would know that Feyd was in greater danger than normal. Most would assume that some traitor had not drugged the slave.
Feyd winning despite the treachery made him a hero.
Such a great reaction! Thank you! This was like my internal monologue the whole movie lol (and I've read the books! So I knew, in general what to expect, but I was STILL shook). The whole team absolutely cooked with this film.
Quote of the day - "They're about to get ringworm" 😮😂
18:00 They just barely touched on the effects of Spice in the first movie.
It has geriatric properties that can allow a normal human to live around 300 years. It is never made clear if the spice slows the affect of aging on your body (you're 70 but look 30), or if it just allows you to grow older than normal (you're 300 years old and look like Gollum).
Spice gives immunity to most of the common poisons.
Spice is also addictive. Spice withdrawal is supposed to be especially nasty.
Finally, spice is mind-altering. Because of his genetics and training, Paul is able to see the future.
The Bene Gesserit use the Water of Life (concentrated spice) to become Reverend Mothers, which unlocks the ancestral memories of every genetic ancestor on the female side. When Paul took the Water of Life, it unlocked his genetic ancestral memories on the male AND female side.
As for asking questions, it should be obvious by now that I ABSOLUTELY LOVE answering questions about the Duniverse.
34:45 That is a vision of what would happen to the Fremen if Paul used the atomic weapons on the Harkonnens.
The Empire is VERY strict about using atomic weapons on humans. The Great Convention lays down the punishment: planetary obliteration.
This is why the Harkonnens never risked dropping atomic weapons on the Atreides. If they did, then the Emperor and every Great House would turn the Harkonnen homeworld (Geidi Prime) into radioactive slag.
17:45 There isn't an exact moment when you get the blue eyes of spice addiction. It's more gradual, like spending a summer building up a good sun tan.
The one exception might be drinking the Water of Life. It is such a concentrated form of Spice that it may be instantaneous.
3:26 2-3 years...
18:02 The gift of foresight,rejuvenating effect,increased intelligence
12:45 Think of the Fremen as light fighters who focus on stealth. The Harkonnens focus on heavier armor and weaponry.
The Harkonnen gear is suitable when fighting shielded opponents who have swords. However, the faster Fremen run rings around the Harkonnens.
28:00 The Harkonnen gladiator fights have some similarities with Spanish bullfighting. Everyone knows about the matador who holds the cape taunting the bull. What most people don't know about are the "picadors" who jab the bull with lances.
It's certainly unfair, but I wouldn't call it cheating (breaking the rules).
9:10 "What about the baby?"
One thing to keep in mind about Jessica is that, at this moment, she is focused on securing a safe place for Paul and herself (in that order). Although she certainly would like to keep her baby, that was secondary.
The Bene Gesserit train their students to be practical. This training didn't work completely on Jessica, as she disobeyed the Bene Gesserit to give Leto the son he wanted instead of the daughter the Bene Gesserit ordered. But here with the Fremen, Paul and Jessica are in a very precarious situation and could be killed. Therefore, she had to risk her baby.
The Bene Gesserit didn't tell Jessica much about the process of becoming a Reverend Mother. Obviously Jessica knew that what affected her would affect her baby. However, I don't think Jessica knew exactly what the Water of Life would do to Alia.
10:35 I'm pretty sure Stilgar is just fucking with Paul about the centipedes. He's probably being serious about the Djinn.
I agree that Austin Butler did the best performance and was very impactful with everything he did on screen, even though he had a limited amount of screen time. The Giedi Prime sequence was on another level.
Love the religious/philosophical themes: its easy to dismiss a prophecy of you becoming a Messiah, especially when you know the prophecy is a lie, but when you have mind control powers, and you get the ability to see the past AND future, then you understandably will start acting differently
4:27 Jesus, that edit caught me off guard I've been choking on my Fanta for the past 2 minutes 😂
as a big book fan, my favorite character is probably duncan idaho for reasons that may end up being spoilers for later movies. paul is a great tragic character too, he's like the protagonist from an ancient greek myth; he may be the main character but his actions aren't always good
Villenueve made some interesting changes from the book, one of which is the split in Fremen politics/religiosity between the southern fundamentalists and more secular, northern sietches. Another is Chani's place in it and her relationship with Paul.
In the book, all the Fremen, including Chani, are ready and willing to be Paul's unwitting tool in his revenge and to fulfil his "Golden Path". There are differences in Fremen's intensity of religiosity and adherence to their "true" culture , but it is not a central point of conflict. And Chani submits willingly to her role as concubine. These are interesting and thought-provoking changes.
Yeah from what you told me. I prefer what they did with the movie. Gave it more drama and really made you understand the change in Paul.
Thank you for finally admitting that Dune 1 is excellent and that sci-fi dudes are super chill
Bro is that fucking Zelda music playing while you pontificate?? I think it unlocked a core childhood memory from like 20-30 years ago lmao.
also on your comment about chani's parentage being unclear: liet kynes, the doctor from the first movie was gender swapped, in the books he is chani's father and stilgar is her uncle. they dont express any of these familial relationships in the movie but it is explained in the book
wonderful reaction, mate.
I've been a fan of Dune (Books and Villeneuve) for a while now and I'm very happy that you enjoyed Part 2 and I hope you can reconsider and give new meaning to Part 1 since both films watched together makes them more wonderful, as the work is fundamental to the inspiration of many other franchises we love in pop culture in addition to talking about the control that religious institutions have over the people and not trusting charismatic leaders
This movie was Insane. Truly surprised me, especially the feedback you got from ur last Dune reaction.
When I saw the cool costumes in the arena, I nearly shouted "HEARTLESS!" I played Kingdom Hearts and they really channelled that in the character design.
I'm all for the Austin Butler defense. His performance in this and in Masters of the Air made it his year.
33:40 They are going to carry out the warheads using suspensor technology. It is essentially anti-gravity tech.
53:25 The jihad was going to happen with or without Paul. Paul needed to become Emperor so that he could keep the jihad from getting out of hand.
Even still, by the end of the jihad, 61 billion people had been killed, 90 planets had been sterilized, 500 worlds were demoralized. Also, 40 different religions were wiped out along with all of their followers.
yea the dune movies are amazing i dont get how people dont like them. the story and world building are great! i can understand how it can be confusing at first but all i did before watching the first movie was read an article on all the things i needed to know like the houses and the specific terms used in the books that might confuse you. the two dune movies are some of the greatest movies i have ever seen. im hyped for the third one
The death of the Baron is crazier in the book : killed by Alia the baby (yes ! the time is longer in the book), 4 years old, with a poisonous gom jabar needle in the room
I thought it was funny when the princess pleaded for her fathers life saying the throne will be yours. You the first reactor the point out it gonna be his regardless. She had no leverage with that offer 🤣🤣
Wasn't so much an offer than a reminder that the throne will be his even if he spares the Emperor. She was flat out begging for her father's life.
@@Akaeus Exactly. And the throne isn't his yet. He has to fight the other Houses for it.
You should definitely check out society of the snow. It's a great movie and I would love to hear what you have to say about that. If you do watch it I recommend the original language with subtitles, the acting was amazing.
It was so cool of you to take up for Austin Butler.
Absolutely. Every time I see those childish idiotic comments, it just bothers the mess out of me. People are so jealous and will just say anything. They think they're so smart but will be sounding so dumb.
@@HelloMellowXVI People just love that sweet sweet dopamine hit they get from hating I guess. Anyway, enjoy your reactions! Sorry you had to deal with some toxic nerds. Most of us aren’t like that, we’re just excited when new fans discover our favorite IP. You were cracking me up and your questions were all totally valid.
Never read the books. But I'm aware of their existence. For me, Dune Part One movie was the first proper introduction into this world. Immediate, I'm a fan.
Part Two is what cinema is supposed to be. These are the movies why I pay good money to watch in cinema. IMAX!
30:34 The Voice, punani and gaslighting are the Bene Gesserit’s most powerful tools. Feyd didn’t stand a chance against Margot.
one thing that they didn't include from the book was that, the moment paul introduced himself to the fremen, the holy war was bound to happen regardless.. he couldn't stop the holy war from happening no matter what the did
When Feyd Rautha started drooling while about to kill the Atreides soldier, I thought, 'ah yes, he is truly like a Skarsgard'.
The environment of Dune is so harsh, it is the ultimate survival of the fittest. It requires the strictest of discipline just to survive. If you waste water, your punishment isn't a beating, you die.
In the books, Paul discovers his future sight in the tent we find them in at the end of the 1st movie. There he discovers Jessica is Baron Harkonen's daughter.
His future sight is more that he can see a branching web of possible decisions people may or may not take. He cant see the whole thing, and on the horizon there is the holy war jutting up like a mountain.
During the book, he precieves that no matter what he does, the war aproaches, sometimes faster, sometimes slower, but it feels inevitable.
Eventually, someone does something that he couldn't predict or see, so he drinks the Water of Life.
During the fight with Feyd-Rautha, he sees that no matter the outcome, there will be a galaxy spanning war.
He knows if he is atreides/Harkonnen and he marries irulan a corrino he can unite the great houses in power. He never sleeps with her and they never have children. It’s purely political. He takes chani on as a concubine, and because he loves and respects her she has more influence on him and his decisions as a fighter and emperor. Later on, their son Leto II does the same but with his own twin and falladin, irulans nephew