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I think you're one of the few reactors who got that Paul is like not a good guy haha. But there is a deeper level here, which is did he even have a choice? One of the messages that I think was hard to convey in the movie was that Paul was trapped by his role as a messiah. He had no control over the forces he was unleashing by claiming to be the messiah, once he steps into the role he was trapped by needing to fufill the prophecy. His ascendancy makes the war innevitable. "Lead them to paradise..." is a deeply ironic and sad line.
1:13:05 You'll never guess what... Because the Fremen language isn't actually mapped out in any of the books, the filmmakers actually got the guy who mapped out The Dothraki language for this 😂
@@sucreepark6260 Dude, they are ALL human. There's no aliens, "humanoids" and nothing of such kind in the [known] Dune universe. They are all descendants of Earth.
@@sucreepark6260 Every person in Dune is human, just separated through centuries in different planets and change though artificial inbreeding, genetic modification and etc.
The movie doesnt explain this, but when one of their laser guns hits a shield, it creates a feedback loop at both ends of the shot, basically setting off two nukes. So if laser guns are in play, NOBODY wants a shield on.
The effect is stated to be totally random in the books. It could cause a nuclear explosion where the laser impacts the shield. It could feedback and detonate within the lasgun. Or both. Or the laser beam could do nothing and just fizzle out where it hits the shield. You never know. Nobody wants to find out though. EDIT: The effect is *NOT* random. I remembered it wrong. After looking through all the Dune books again (Frank Herbert’s books, not his son’s glorified fan fiction) the effect does always lead to a detonation at both ends. It never says anything about it being random. Always verify!
There's one scene in the books that shows it. During the Harkonnen attack Duncan is fighting and with the Sadukar closing in he takes a gamble and shoots the Sadukar shields with a lasgun, causing a nuclear explosion on the Sadukar end. It was a complete toss up as to if The Sadukar, Duncan or both sides would have exploded. I was hoping for that scene because it shows how much Duncan was a badass.
A few things you might have not noticed /know: - "May thy knife chip and shatter" and the chest beating said/done by Paul when fighting with Feyd, Paul took it from Jamis (Dune 1). - When Feyd asked Paul "She's your pet?" when referring to Channi. Noticed that when the film first introduced Feyd, Feyd asked the three girls "Would you like some fresh meat my darlings?". Is because he treats them like pets. Hence when he saw Channi, he assumed she is Paul's "pet". - The worm nostrils (scene where Paul was riding the worm). Whenever the hook exposes the nostrils, it causes the worm to stay above surface and not dive. (sand getting into the nostrils irritates the worm)
The thing about dune is there isn't supposed to be any actual magic. All of Paul and the bene gesserit powers come through intense trainjng and genetic breeding. The bene gesserit have unlocked 100% of their bodies function, basically they jailbreaked the human body. Paul on the other hand is a result of thousands of years of crosbreeding for specific traits that make you more efficiently use the spice or something. That allows them to see the future more vividly when consuming the spice. (Spice gives future vision anyway when consumed in crazy amounts, but you usually get mutated, thats what the guild navigators are)
By the way guys, paul has to navigate to get to a future he wants, so basically he could still die based on his decisions. In the book there's many times where he could have died in the fight with feyd, but his death wouldn't have stopped the war anyway. So he decided to fight not knowing if he'd survive.
Maybe in the book, but in the movie, there's a clear clip of a vision after waking up from the juice where it shows the image of him stabbing feud, he saw it coming in the movies hence why allowing feud to stab him and get over confident coming in close so he can stab him with the blade still in him 🤷🏽♂️
@@xBeastAsBrox in the books its quite literally spelled that he cannod see his future past the fight with feud, which has happened multiple times before and means he might die during said event
@@firemaiden029 He played one of Charles Manson's guys in "Once upon a time in Hollywood" and played Elvis in the Baz Luhrmann Movie. He's no joke as an actor
Thats true but thats not the reason for the "No shields!" from the beggining. If you pay attention, they are being sniped with laser guns, which causes an almost nuclear explosion in contact with a shield. So the Harkonnens know that if they use a shield there, all of them would be vaporized in a second.
@@davidcastromacia7166 I don't actually think they were being sniped by Laserguns, the first couple who got hit were hit by maula pistols, and no Fremen are carrying lasers when they reappear after the fight. When Paul and Jessica are picked up by Chani and Stilgar and the end of the first movie, Chani has a maula pistol, so i think that's what they're using. The lasers you see being fired are the Harkonnens firing back at the Fremen positions, mostly out of panic because they can't see them I guess. You're right tho the reason he shouts no shields is because the Harkonnens are using laserguns and its just safer no one uses shields
@@Killerkwoi13 Interesting explanation and makes sense. I also thought it was because shields in the deep desert drive the worms into a killing frenzy, meaning the won't even stop attacking a mountainous outcrop.
Saw that movie in the theaters with the highest possible screen and sound possible and let me tell you every time a worm show up because of a Thumper or someone used the Voice Everyone Gets silenced and in fear. Because the seats and the walls vibrate with the sound waves, A Unique Experience in the scales of seeing The way of water and the sheer scale of creatures and places
A couple of things 1. The Harkonnen said no shields coz laser guns and shields explode when they hit one another and they didn’t know whether the Fremen were using them / plus they had laser guns so it’s just safer no to use them. Secondly shields attract worms hence why no one uses them in the desert not even the harvestors 2. Paul’s sister, Alia, is pre-born aka a fully matured BG reverend mother in an infant’s body, she can also hijack Jessica’s body briefly. The BG consider pre borns to be abominations and extremely dangerous. 3. Paul only takes Irulan’s hand in marriage for political reasons, dw he still loves Chani. In the book this is explained much better and Chani isn’t as independent as Zendaya’s portrayal but Denis changed it so Chani emphasised that Paul’s rise to power is not a good thing (albeit the only way for Paul and his family / friends to survive) 4. Feyd-Reutha is also a product of BG breeding and possesses some of the abilities that Paul does (which is why he has those visions and dreams about Lady Fenring). In the book he actually uses his foresight to find Seitch Tabr when none of the other Harkonnens ever could
YEEEEESSSS i was waiting for thissssss, so hyped! EDIT: Also in the beginning the harkonnen soldier told "No shields" because if a laser gun hits an active shield, the result is basically a nuclear explosion! This is never quite explained in the movies, but that is why everyone fights with a sword, since guns are useless and lasers create massive explosions!
Definitely. I be the reason why Frank Herbert wrote Dune Messiah so obvious with its message is because I bet even back then, some people believed Paul was your average chosen one.
33:48 In the book the blue scarf in Chani’s hair symbolizes that a Fremen woman just gave birth to a son. The director has said that in the movie it is a sign that Chani is in love with Paul. Watch where she places the scarf in the end.
For me that said she still loved Paul, but she morns the man he became, so I get the feeling they’ll have them get back together early enough in the film. I feel like the next movie isn’t going to have a drastic time jump, so they might play more on a tragic note depending on if they’re gonna try to add the contraceptive subplot. But maybe they might not go that route. They’ll probably use Irulan as a spy and maybe try to kill the baby. There’s a few avenues they could go down, but I feel like they could really make it tragic because of his visions, especially his visions of Chani
At the end of the movie the Great Houses came because the Baron sent a message saying that Arrakis was under Sardaukar attack. Also, the reason Feyd is so strong is because he was meant to be the father of the Kwisatz Haderach and Paul was supposed to be a girl and the mother - they're almost similar in power level, but Feyd didn't have a Bene Gesserit mom to train him, so he can't knowingly tap into that power like Paul does. It's the reason why Paul didn't forsee the attack on Sietch Tabr, one prescient can't see the actions of another, something that's central to the plot of the next movie.
1:33:49 I think Paul could see all possibilities. There was a reality where Jamis taught Paul what it was to be a Fremen. There was one where he died too. Spice does crazy things.
My biggest complaint about this movie is they never showed baby and toddler Alia. She is terrifying. In the third book that baby becomes the most terrifying person in the universe.
Dune does a good job showing how dangerous religious fanaticism and messiah figures are. Also, I think the "there are no sides" line means regardless the bene gesserit wins
The movie is over 2.5 hours long, and still every time the end credits hit, the widespread reaction is "damn it's over". That is what you get with incredible top notch filmmaking. 2.5 mesmerizing hours that is so well done that you are locked in and a part of the movie yourself. It's emotionally stirring when it ends because of how well it's done. Thanks for the reaction.
Alia, Paul's sister, is already conscious and aware in the womb. She will be born with all the power of a full Reverend Mother. Im the womb, she can even take over Jessica's body for brief periods. We saw it once when Alia spoke to Paul and again at the last fight. That's why the Emperor's Bene Gesserit called her Abomination.
@@AveChristusRex789 That's how I interpreted it as well, especially since IIRC from the first film, only women are supposed to have the power of the voice. So a male using it on her would be seen as an abomination - something improper.
@@AveChristusRex789 Its not very clear in the movie, but in the book the reverend mother calls Alia aka the unborn sister an abomination. This is because she will be born with all the memories of previous reverend mothers and little to no self-identity. It is actually forbidden in the Bene Gesserit to undergo rites to become a reverend mother for this very reason. It's why the Fremen rev mother also says "what have we done" when Jessica drank the water of life. So essentially she will be born containing multitudes of lifetimes of knowledge and memories from birth... enough to drive one mad.
@@Sneeeeeee The issue is that the unborn child doesn't have time to develop her own surety of self to defend all the ancestral personalities, so instead of carefully only accessing the female side like a true bene gesserit reverend mother would, alia got access to both, making her go insane in the womb since the most prominent ancestral personality is the baron vladamir.
1:44:42 Love it that you also caught on that Paul isn’t himself anymore. Very few reactors so far view it that way. Whenever he (or his mother) speak it’s like their individual personality just isn’t there anymore.
1:23:35 the great houses do not come to free the emperor,the baron send messages to the great houses saying the emperor was attacking dune,they came to fight the emperor if necessary.
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Dude Rock, that was an excellent callout on Stilgar's chanting immediately after Paul won the dual. The hypeman for the optics was so important. Even better that the hypeman was a true believer. Cheers!
1:20:52: Technically, both in the book and the films, Paul unites 3 houses(Atreides, Harkkonen and Corrino- through his political marriage to Princess Irulan), and with both the marriage, and defeat of Feyd, he sits on the throne; BUT because of the Bene Gessrit’s own doing, he leads no only the Fremen as the Mahdi/Lisan Al Gaib, but is also the Kwisatz Haderach. So in recap, by the end of Dune(book and film) Paul sits as the single most powerful person in the known universe, who not only has god-like powers of seeing the future and possible futures, and being the Massiah/Chosen One of two of the most powerful forces in all the human race (Bene Gesserit & Fremen), but also leads the top 3 powerful Houses in all of the Empire, WITH ALL THE RESOURCES THEREIN, all though less so with Harkkonen, definitely so with Atreides and Corrino.
"I thought the people in his memories were gonna hijack him." Then the very next scene after he said that it shows Alia lol. You may be more right than you thought in a way
@@philipgodsworth4764 Didn't his son use details his father left behind? I haven't read the ones he took up yet. Thought though he mentioned his father's writings and notes when putting things together.
its no shields because the laser weapons work off of the same tech and when they link it ends up with a nuke level explosion if they want to use shields they all have to use swords only just in case the fremin dont ever use the shields due to the worms and how they react to it but likewise if you want to shoot them you have to lower the shields
"I don't think he's that bad?" And compare him 1 second later to Daemon Targaryen. He is not AT ALL like Fyed Rautha. Daemon is a gray character, one of the best. He’s not JUST an evil guy doing evil shit. He also loves and cares about (some of) his family. He is more human than Fyed. For all of his flaws and negative traits Daemon really loved his brother and never rebelled against him or Rhaenyra. Damn girl don't do that to Daemon.
One thing that they left out of this adaptation which I think was important was the role of the Spacing Guild. In this world, power is really held by three organizations, the Great Houses of the Landsraad, the Emperor, and the Spacing Guild (which is supposed to be independent and unbiased). Everyone is truly at the mercy of the Spacing Guild since they have a monopoly on interstellar travel, however, the one lever (as the Bene Gesserit would put it) that can be used to control the Spacing Guild is access to spice since they cannot navigate without it. This makes Paul the most powerful emperor ever since he is the first to control the Spacing Guild and ultimately the movement of the other Great Houses.
@1:33:45 That confusion is on purpose...Part of the whole point is the foolishness of the Bene Gesserit. They can look backward (the past) & want a superbeing capable of looking forwards. What they misunderstand about time is that the future is constantly changing, because of people's choices. So, Paul's visions are SUPPOSED to be confusing, because they are possible futures he keeps seeing. What is so terrifying, of course, is that in just about all of them, no matter their variations, all these futures he keeps seeing end in billions of dead across the universe, because of his choices.
It's played way down in the movies, but when Feyd kissed his uncle, that's a power move. All the aristocrats are bi as hell in the book, the Baron is no exception. Feyd is young and beautiful, and he knows that is his uncle's weakness.
1:27:16: also all of this from the start of the fight and all the way to the end, hits different, when you realize, Paul saw this exactly how it was before hand…. EXACTLY HOW IT WAS…😮
Again, Paul sees all outcomes, the injuries sustained was chosen by him in the end fight scene perhaps self-hatred. (I just had a thought was this vision seen in part 1 of Dune?)
Remember, shields can not be used in the desert. It attracts worms. The Fremen are as ruthless as any other violent group, so what they did to the Sardaukar is very befitting. The hooks expose the worm's sensitive bits, so they roll to get at that area to the top. That's how riders get up to the point they can throw the lines. Jessica is talking with her daughter in utero, who is also a Reverend Mother. What happened is a huge no-no: pregnant women are forbidden from becoming Reverend Mothers. As was said in the previous film, the Bene Gesserit been working in the shadows for thousands of years. The homeworld of the Harkaunans have a different atmosphere. It's not as earth-like as the other planets you've seen. It makes them all look like uncooked sausages. All of the men that Feyd fought were the vestiges of the Atreides house. That said, the one that wasn't drugged was Lanville, who was a lieutenant whom you met in the first film. I'll probably add a bit more. When the emperor showed up, the Barron ordered a call to the great houses, stating the Sardaukar was attacking Arrakis. If you think about it, he was able to do what the Atreides could not. When Paul said what he did about marrying Irulan, if you recall, he also said it to Liet-Kynes. The fight between Feyd and Paul was similar to the practice fight in the first film, when Gurney made the comment of them being joined in death, when Paul didn't notice the threat. Leto didn't marry Jessica either, so there isn't an issue there, culturally. The issue is that Paul is behaving, not like a Fremen, but a Duke. Chani said he'd always have her if hey stayed himself. You know when that changed.
The sound design made IMAX the perfect place to see it. This was my first IMAX experience and Paul riding the sandworm was next level with the sound and vibrations. Felt like you were there with him.
The atomics hit the mountain n destroying it clearing the path for the sandworms to get thru they wouldn't have been able to do that with the sandworms in the attack cuz the mountain was in the way they the nuclear atomics blast it n left big enough path through it for the sandworms n fremen.
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Timothee Chalamet is the perfect cast for Paul. Paul's age in the books is 15 when everything started if anyone's going to complain he's a skinny lil b. If anything, he was *too* menacing at the end
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Rabban was never it. He was always covered by uncle's wealth and the tsunami wave of other soldiers crashing over their enemies. He's a coward and a dummy and not aware of strategy. He yelled and employed brute force and while that may work in certain situations, it doesn't across the board, so that guy got a tracheotomy in the field
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@@YaBoyRockLee Also the reason Paul and Jessica were so different after the water of life is that it awakens the one who drinks it to the memories of all the Bene Gesserit that came before, like a collective consciosness, so they know everything the Bene Gesserit ever knew. It allows them to play the long game better, but also it's hard not to lose who you were before.
@1:28:00 Notice how this is exactly like the 1st fight we see Paul do in the 1st movie: in his practice fight against Gurney, when they get each other with their blade. Now here, against Feyd, Paul basically does what Gurney did to him, and gets his opponent in the same spot.
The story of Beast Rabban, and Gurney are started way long ago. That's why it didn't take long for Gurney to kill him cuz he knows Rabban very well. Check it out if you intrested.
The non-drugged Atreides man Feyd fights, is actually (1) the stunt coordinator on both movies & (2) seen in part one, as the Atreides commander leading the first defensive assault in the palace steps against the night attack from Harkonnen.
Jessica was trained her whole life, she has the mental strength and maturity to deal with centuries of memories and trauma of all the past reverend mothers. Alia received the same memories and trauma but without training or the maturity to process them. Alia is at risk of "abomination", being consumed by all the past memories and personalities so they you lose who you are and go wildly out of control. Yes...Alia is going to be a problem.
Feyd-Rautha Harkonnen is honorable with-in his world view. Terrible person, great character. In a different world he could easily have been a great ally/friend.
Can i ask. Why are you explaining this? Its the second time i read it lol. One was condescending. What part of the video was someone confused. Lol. I just don’t remember. This explanation sounds obvious , but obviously someone said something in the video to warrant these corrections haha
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I think you're one of the few reactors who got that Paul is like not a good guy haha. But there is a deeper level here, which is did he even have a choice? One of the messages that I think was hard to convey in the movie was that Paul was trapped by his role as a messiah. He had no control over the forces he was unleashing by claiming to be the messiah, once he steps into the role he was trapped by needing to fufill the prophecy. His ascendancy makes the war innevitable. "Lead them to paradise..." is a deeply ironic and sad line.
1:13:05 You'll never guess what...
Because the Fremen language isn't actually mapped out in any of the books, the filmmakers actually got the guy who mapped out The Dothraki language for this 😂
Timothee Chalamet actually went so hard this movie. As a small guy, he conveys so much strength and ferocity
I've liked Timothee for a while but his total energy shift pre and post drinking of the water of life really sold me on his ability as an actor
Tim is skinny but still very tall
Like the Muad'Dib
Exactly i was sceptic at first but damn
Funny cuz he's not even small. Just skinny
"And you're not allowed to waste no sauce 🤭" Just fuckin' killed me.
ayoooooo 28:05
"But he stabbed those girls..."Yeah, but he's not that bad. That's their customs." I love how everyone paused like hmm for a minute before laughing😅😂😂
its true tho, no species is entitled to have our morals
@@saileshnaidu8102 they're human🤨
@@calvintyler9281 they are not human. They are humanoid. Their planet has a black Sun if I remember correctly.
@@sucreepark6260 Dude, they are ALL human.
There's no aliens, "humanoids" and nothing of such kind in the [known] Dune universe.
They are all descendants of Earth.
@@sucreepark6260 Every person in Dune is human, just separated through centuries in different planets and change though artificial inbreeding, genetic modification and etc.
'Bro they took your sleep apnea machine...'
IM DEAD
"Put your hand in the box". "WAIT, WHICH BOX?" 🤣🤣🤣
"climb" is common word for pilots to get to higher altitude
Yup
Remember Pauls words “she’ll come to understand”. Dont worry about Chani
The movie doesnt explain this, but when one of their laser guns hits a shield, it creates a feedback loop at both ends of the shot, basically setting off two nukes. So if laser guns are in play, NOBODY wants a shield on.
The effect is stated to be totally random in the books.
It could cause a nuclear explosion where the laser impacts the shield. It could feedback and detonate within the lasgun. Or both.
Or the laser beam could do nothing and just fizzle out where it hits the shield.
You never know. Nobody wants to find out though.
EDIT: The effect is *NOT* random. I remembered it wrong. After looking through all the Dune books again (Frank Herbert’s books, not his son’s glorified fan fiction) the effect does always lead to a detonation at both ends. It never says anything about it being random.
Always verify!
@@Gunnar001I didn’t think it was random in the books, it happened a few times
Another reason they didn’t use shields was because they send worms into a frenzy. And that’s the last thing you want.
There's one scene in the books that shows it. During the Harkonnen attack Duncan is fighting and with the Sadukar closing in he takes a gamble and shoots the Sadukar shields with a lasgun, causing a nuclear explosion on the Sadukar end. It was a complete toss up as to if The Sadukar, Duncan or both sides would have exploded. I was hoping for that scene because it shows how much Duncan was a badass.
@@tgiacin435 You’re right. It isn’t random.
"What he is doing is the path to peace tho"
10s later when Paul says lead them to paradise
"LISAN AL GAIB!!"
LMAO this story is definitely for you
A few things you might have not noticed /know:
- "May thy knife chip and shatter" and the chest beating said/done by Paul when fighting with Feyd, Paul took it from Jamis (Dune 1).
- When Feyd asked Paul "She's your pet?" when referring to Channi. Noticed that when the film first introduced Feyd, Feyd asked the three girls "Would you like some fresh meat my darlings?".
Is because he treats them like pets. Hence when he saw Channi, he assumed she is Paul's "pet".
- The worm nostrils (scene where Paul was riding the worm). Whenever the hook exposes the nostrils, it causes the worm to stay above surface and not dive. (sand getting into the nostrils irritates the worm)
The sister will never betray Paul. She loves her brother. She'll always help him. Personally, I trust her more than the mother.
If Denis eventually makes the fourth Dune movie, you'll find "betray" is a...very loose word here.
There's a price to have all genetic memories of your forebears in your mind
One has to hope that those personalities remain dormant.
I really hope she will not betray him
The question isn't if Alia (Paul's sister) betrays him "she" won't.
The "other {voices} " in her mind..?
Quite another matter...
The thing about dune is there isn't supposed to be any actual magic. All of Paul and the bene gesserit powers come through intense trainjng and genetic breeding. The bene gesserit have unlocked 100% of their bodies function, basically they jailbreaked the human body. Paul on the other hand is a result of thousands of years of crosbreeding for specific traits that make you more efficiently use the spice or something. That allows them to see the future more vividly when consuming the spice. (Spice gives future vision anyway when consumed in crazy amounts, but you usually get mutated, thats what the guild navigators are)
By the way guys, paul has to navigate to get to a future he wants, so basically he could still die based on his decisions. In the book there's many times where he could have died in the fight with feyd, but his death wouldn't have stopped the war anyway. So he decided to fight not knowing if he'd survive.
Maybe in the book, but in the movie, there's a clear clip of a vision after waking up from the juice where it shows the image of him stabbing feud, he saw it coming in the movies hence why allowing feud to stab him and get over confident coming in close so he can stab him with the blade still in him 🤷🏽♂️
@@xBeastAsBrox in the books its quite literally spelled that he cannod see his future past the fight with feud, which has happened multiple times before and means he might die during said event
Austin Butler went from being a background actor for Ned's Declassified to zoey 101 to this
He's also in hannah montana lol
@@firemaiden029 He played one of Charles Manson's guys in "Once upon a time in Hollywood" and played Elvis in the Baz Luhrmann Movie. He's no joke as an actor
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Bruh I’ve seen you on at least 3 or 4 other reactions saying the same thing 😂 no shade just find it funny
Shield tech drives worms insane, cant use them in the desert.
Thats true but thats not the reason for the "No shields!" from the beggining. If you pay attention, they are being sniped with laser guns, which causes an almost nuclear explosion in contact with a shield. So the Harkonnens know that if they use a shield there, all of them would be vaporized in a second.
@@davidcastromacia7166 I don't actually think they were being sniped by Laserguns, the first couple who got hit were hit by maula pistols, and no Fremen are carrying lasers when they reappear after the fight. When Paul and Jessica are picked up by Chani and Stilgar and the end of the first movie, Chani has a maula pistol, so i think that's what they're using. The lasers you see being fired are the Harkonnens firing back at the Fremen positions, mostly out of panic because they can't see them I guess. You're right tho the reason he shouts no shields is because the Harkonnens are using laserguns and its just safer no one uses shields
@@Killerkwoi13 Interesting explanation and makes sense. I also thought it was because shields in the deep desert drive the worms into a killing frenzy, meaning the won't even stop attacking a mountainous outcrop.
@@rickymartin4457 id say it's safe to say it's a little of column A and B.
Path to Peace? 61 Billion people are about to be real peaceful. 😂
Yea, to save all of humanity.
@@JWar- The movies will never even get that far lol
TBF that is like 1/1000 of the total human population at the time.
well in the book the path that paul chosen was the better one
any other path would have had more than 61 billion death
Is it so hard for y’all to stop spoiling?
"what he is doing is the path to peace though"
2 seconds later...
Oh.... crap. lol. i was smiling when he said that lol
Lisan al gaib Will bring us green paradise !!!
And it quite literally IS the path to peace. Or at least a much better future. It just takes a while to get there.
@@johnathanera5863 and some 60 billion corpses
Saw that movie in the theaters with the highest possible screen and sound possible and let me tell you every time a worm show up because of a Thumper or someone used the Voice Everyone Gets silenced and in fear. Because the seats and the walls vibrate with the sound waves, A Unique Experience in the scales of seeing The way of water and the sheer scale of creatures and places
A couple of things
1. The Harkonnen said no shields coz laser guns and shields explode when they hit one another and they didn’t know whether the Fremen were using them / plus they had laser guns so it’s just safer no to use them. Secondly shields attract worms hence why no one uses them in the desert not even the harvestors
2. Paul’s sister, Alia, is pre-born aka a fully matured BG reverend mother in an infant’s body, she can also hijack Jessica’s body briefly. The BG consider pre borns to be abominations and extremely dangerous.
3. Paul only takes Irulan’s hand in marriage for political reasons, dw he still loves Chani. In the book this is explained much better and Chani isn’t as independent as Zendaya’s portrayal but Denis changed it so Chani emphasised that Paul’s rise to power is not a good thing (albeit the only way for Paul and his family / friends to survive)
4. Feyd-Reutha is also a product of BG breeding and possesses some of the abilities that Paul does (which is why he has those visions and dreams about Lady Fenring). In the book he actually uses his foresight to find Seitch Tabr when none of the other Harkonnens ever could
YEEEEESSSS i was waiting for thissssss, so hyped!
EDIT: Also in the beginning the harkonnen soldier told "No shields" because if a laser gun hits an active shield, the result is basically a nuclear explosion! This is never quite explained in the movies, but that is why everyone fights with a sword, since guns are useless and lasers create massive explosions!
In addition, active shields attract worms and drive them into a frenzy.
This is the type of person that Dune Messiah was written for.
'Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.'
Definitely. I be the reason why Frank Herbert wrote Dune Messiah so obvious with its message is because I bet even back then, some people believed Paul was your average chosen one.
The rug pull is going to be brutal for all the people that somehow still don't realize this is a horror story, not a heroes journey.
dude read 2 books and now acts like an expert. inb4 u cry about having read chapterhouse. if you did, you didn't get it lol
@@rainiwakura2430 I did cry at reading Chapterhouse knowing I would never see the conclusion to the plotlines.
33:48 In the book the blue scarf in Chani’s hair symbolizes that a Fremen woman just gave birth to a son.
The director has said that in the movie it is a sign that Chani is in love with Paul. Watch where she places the scarf in the end.
For me that said she still loved Paul, but she morns the man he became, so I get the feeling they’ll have them get back together early enough in the film. I feel like the next movie isn’t going to have a drastic time jump, so they might play more on a tragic note depending on if they’re gonna try to add the contraceptive subplot. But maybe they might not go that route. They’ll probably use Irulan as a spy and maybe try to kill the baby. There’s a few avenues they could go down, but I feel like they could really make it tragic because of his visions, especially his visions of Chani
At the end of the movie the Great Houses came because the Baron sent a message saying that Arrakis was under Sardaukar attack. Also, the reason Feyd is so strong is because he was meant to be the father of the Kwisatz Haderach and Paul was supposed to be a girl and the mother - they're almost similar in power level, but Feyd didn't have a Bene Gesserit mom to train him, so he can't knowingly tap into that power like Paul does. It's the reason why Paul didn't forsee the attack on Sietch Tabr, one prescient can't see the actions of another, something that's central to the plot of the next movie.
Paul wasn’t TOO confident. He knew he had to take those stabs to get the “narrow way through”.
The sight of Fremen loading into Sardaukar space ships to fight for the first time off-planet is so chilling as a book fan
YaBoyRockLee crew drinking that Muad’Dib Kool Aid. Dune Messiah is going to wreck them.
I am here for it
“The path to peace” 💀
We all need a hype man like Stilgar 😂
1:33:49 I think Paul could see all possibilities. There was a reality where Jamis taught Paul what it was to be a Fremen. There was one where he died too. Spice does crazy things.
My biggest complaint about this movie is they never showed baby and toddler Alia. She is terrifying. In the third book that baby becomes the most terrifying person in the universe.
Dune does a good job showing how dangerous religious fanaticism and messiah figures are. Also, I think the "there are no sides" line means regardless the bene gesserit wins
51:41 It was like the Roman Empire among the nobility and Senate. Especially under the reign of Heliogabalus.
the way y'all predicted alia (the baby)'s character so quickly like YALL ARE PREPARED FOR SPACE H*TL*R
The movie is over 2.5 hours long, and still every time the end credits hit, the widespread reaction is "damn it's over". That is what you get with incredible top notch filmmaking. 2.5 mesmerizing hours that is so well done that you are locked in and a part of the movie yourself. It's emotionally stirring when it ends because of how well it's done. Thanks for the reaction.
“I recognize your footsteps old man”, he said that in the first movie when he first was exposed to spice.
Facts
Paul done set off the Rumbling on the entire Galaxy
Saw this in a Dolby theater. It was a great experience. The scene where he learns to control the sandworm was breathtaking being there to watch it.
Alia, Paul's sister, is already conscious and aware in the womb. She will be born with all the power of a full Reverend Mother.
Im the womb, she can even take over Jessica's body for brief periods. We saw it once when Alia spoke to Paul and again at the last fight. That's why the Emperor's Bene Gesserit called her Abomination.
I thought the Emperor’s bene gesserit called Paul the abomination? That was directly after he shouted “silence” at her
@@AveChristusRex789 she did idk what this guy on about
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That's how I interpreted it as well, especially since IIRC from the first film, only women are supposed to have the power of the voice. So a male using it on her would be seen as an abomination - something improper.
@@AveChristusRex789 Its not very clear in the movie, but in the book the reverend mother calls Alia aka the unborn sister an abomination. This is because she will be born with all the memories of previous reverend mothers and little to no self-identity. It is actually forbidden in the Bene Gesserit to undergo rites to become a reverend mother for this very reason. It's why the Fremen rev mother also says "what have we done" when Jessica drank the water of life. So essentially she will be born containing multitudes of lifetimes of knowledge and memories from birth... enough to drive one mad.
@@Sneeeeeee The issue is that the unborn child doesn't have time to develop her own surety of self to defend all the ancestral personalities, so instead of carefully only accessing the female side like a true bene gesserit reverend mother would, alia got access to both, making her go insane in the womb since the most prominent ancestral personality is the baron vladamir.
1:44:42 Love it that you also caught on that Paul isn’t himself anymore. Very few reactors so far view it that way. Whenever he (or his mother) speak it’s like their individual personality just isn’t there anymore.
1:23:35 the great houses do not come to free the emperor,the baron send messages to the great houses saying the emperor was attacking dune,they came to fight the emperor if necessary.
When I'm in a glazing competition and my opponent is Stilgar: 😰
I’m 45 years old but I will always watch these guys react to the stuff I love because I end up laughing out loud too many times. Love you guys love this story! Read the books after it will BLOW YOUR MIND!
Omg thank you for reacting to this absolutely masterpiece of a film you’ll aren’t ready for dune messiah!!!
1:30:54 IS THE PATH TO WHAT??🤣 love yall reaction!
I don't think they get it and that Paul is the tragic villain not the hero of the story
@@queenxx1690it kinda is tho its the golden path
Just remember that Paul’s mom and dad were not married.
Dude Rock, that was an excellent callout on Stilgar's chanting immediately after Paul won the dual. The hypeman for the optics was so important. Even better that the hypeman was a true believer. Cheers!
No problem. It was a major reason I was excited and hyped too. The movie did a great job
"Come here Director"
"Come here who? ⚔" 😂
1:20:52: Technically, both in the book and the films, Paul unites 3 houses(Atreides, Harkkonen and Corrino- through his political marriage to Princess Irulan), and with both the marriage, and defeat of Feyd, he sits on the throne; BUT because of the Bene Gessrit’s own doing, he leads no only the Fremen as the Mahdi/Lisan Al Gaib, but is also the Kwisatz Haderach. So in recap, by the end of Dune(book and film) Paul sits as the single most powerful person in the known universe, who not only has god-like powers of seeing the future and possible futures, and being the Massiah/Chosen One of two of the most powerful forces in all the human race (Bene Gesserit & Fremen), but also leads the top 3 powerful Houses in all of the Empire, WITH ALL THE RESOURCES THEREIN, all though less so with Harkkonen, definitely so with Atreides and Corrino.
"I thought the people in his memories were gonna hijack him." Then the very next scene after he said that it shows Alia lol. You may be more right than you thought in a way
50:40 "which box ?" 🤣🤣🤣
46:36 "You see them too, right?" XD
Absolutely love your guys' reactions to both films! Glad yall loved these movies!
Thanks so much!!
This is why i love lee mans found the rhythm quick through the violence😂 9:25
When Rock D Lee pulls out his saber you know he's too hyped 😂
Hahah
Lady Jessica is actually the daughter of reverend mohiam and baron harkonnen. The baron clapped those old cheeks.
Prequel bs written by the failson, not canon.
@@philipgodsworth4764 Didn't his son use details his father left behind? I haven't read the ones he took up yet. Thought though he mentioned his father's writings and notes when putting things together.
If it's not written in the 6 books by Frank Herbert or if it's not included in the dune encyclopaedia then it's not considered canon in my eyes.
its no shields because the laser weapons work off of the same tech and when they link it ends up with a nuke level explosion if they want to use shields they all have to use swords only just in case
the fremin dont ever use the shields due to the worms and how they react to it but likewise if you want to shoot them you have to lower the shields
"I don't think he's that bad?" And compare him 1 second later to Daemon Targaryen. He is not AT ALL like Fyed Rautha. Daemon is a gray character, one of the best. He’s not JUST an evil guy doing evil shit. He also loves and cares about (some of) his family. He is more human than Fyed. For all of his flaws and negative traits Daemon really loved his brother and never rebelled against him or Rhaenyra. Damn girl don't do that to Daemon.
She was referring to Aemond, not Daemon.
One thing that they left out of this adaptation which I think was important was the role of the Spacing Guild. In this world, power is really held by three organizations, the Great Houses of the Landsraad, the Emperor, and the Spacing Guild (which is supposed to be independent and unbiased). Everyone is truly at the mercy of the Spacing Guild since they have a monopoly on interstellar travel, however, the one lever (as the Bene Gesserit would put it) that can be used to control the Spacing Guild is access to spice since they cannot navigate without it. This makes Paul the most powerful emperor ever since he is the first to control the Spacing Guild and ultimately the movement of the other Great Houses.
Stilgar out here running Paul's social media
@1:33:45 That confusion is on purpose...Part of the whole point is the foolishness of the Bene Gesserit. They can look backward (the past) & want a superbeing capable of looking forwards. What they misunderstand about time is that the future is constantly changing, because of people's choices. So, Paul's visions are SUPPOSED to be confusing, because they are possible futures he keeps seeing. What is so terrifying, of course, is that in just about all of them, no matter their variations, all these futures he keeps seeing end in billions of dead across the universe, because of his choices.
PAUL IS THAT DUDE!
Lisan Al-Gaib!!
28:05 That was a wild statement 😂😂
“Prophecy includes the inevitability of certain choices made long ago”
It's played way down in the movies, but when Feyd kissed his uncle, that's a power move. All the aristocrats are bi as hell in the book, the Baron is no exception. Feyd is young and beautiful, and he knows that is his uncle's weakness.
1:27:16: also all of this from the start of the fight and all the way to the end, hits different, when you realize, Paul saw this exactly how it was before hand…. EXACTLY HOW IT WAS…😮
So glad for this reaction
Your brother attacks the Great Houses...The Holy War begins!
this is my movie of all time
greatest movie speech of all time
Again, Paul sees all outcomes, the injuries sustained was chosen by him in the end fight scene perhaps self-hatred. (I just had a thought was this vision seen in part 1 of Dune?)
Remember, shields can not be used in the desert. It attracts worms.
The Fremen are as ruthless as any other violent group, so what they did to the Sardaukar is very befitting.
The hooks expose the worm's sensitive bits, so they roll to get at that area to the top. That's how riders get up to the point they can throw the lines.
Jessica is talking with her daughter in utero, who is also a Reverend Mother. What happened is a huge no-no: pregnant women are forbidden from becoming Reverend Mothers. As was said in the previous film, the Bene Gesserit been working in the shadows for thousands of years.
The homeworld of the Harkaunans have a different atmosphere. It's not as earth-like as the other planets you've seen. It makes them all look like uncooked sausages. All of the men that Feyd fought were the vestiges of the Atreides house. That said, the one that wasn't drugged was Lanville, who was a lieutenant whom you met in the first film.
I'll probably add a bit more.
When the emperor showed up, the Barron ordered a call to the great houses, stating the Sardaukar was attacking Arrakis. If you think about it, he was able to do what the Atreides could not.
When Paul said what he did about marrying Irulan, if you recall, he also said it to Liet-Kynes.
The fight between Feyd and Paul was similar to the practice fight in the first film, when Gurney made the comment of them being joined in death, when Paul didn't notice the threat.
Leto didn't marry Jessica either, so there isn't an issue there, culturally. The issue is that Paul is behaving, not like a Fremen, but a Duke. Chani said he'd always have her if hey stayed himself. You know when that changed.
Bro on the right doesn’t understand Paul isn’t a “hero”
tthe message sent to the great houses was that arrakis is under attack by the emperor that is why the great houses arrived, not to free the emperor.
Been waiting on this 🔥🔥🔥
They dont use shields cause if a shield and a laser conect they go big boom
See it in IMAX you still can! 30% more footage
The sound design made IMAX the perfect place to see it. This was my first IMAX experience and Paul riding the sandworm was next level with the sound and vibrations. Felt like you were there with him.
Harkonnen arena scene with Feyd >
16:25 The wroms produce spice I think, that is why they are sacred.
1:11:10 "I need to learn how to walk."
😂
The atomics hit the mountain n destroying it clearing the path for the sandworms to get thru they wouldn't have been able to do that with the sandworms in the attack cuz the mountain was in the way they the nuclear atomics blast it n left big enough path through it for the sandworms n fremen.
my peoplessssss 🔥 so happy to see how quick y’all got this out
edit: y’all wrong for that background pic though lmao i couldn’t see shit during the darker scenes 😭😭
Timothee Chalamet is the perfect cast for Paul. Paul's age in the books is 15 when everything started if anyone's going to complain he's a skinny lil b.
If anything, he was *too* menacing at the end
I always enjoy y'all. You're a reaction and commentary channel. That's why we watch y'all. Most of us appreciate you for what you do and how you do it! Are y'all planning on watching Dune Prophecy when it drops on Max? I hope you do!
Rabban was never it. He was always covered by uncle's wealth and the tsunami wave of other soldiers crashing over their enemies. He's a coward and a dummy and not aware of strategy. He yelled and employed brute force and while that may work in certain situations, it doesn't across the board, so that guy got a tracheotomy in the field
@1:11:20 -- paul was not about to put a cap in his single greatest asset
I love my man's urban version of the plot recap at the beginning! Great breakdown of where everything stands when part 2 starts!
Lol. Thank you
@@YaBoyRockLee Just finished, I'd be surprised if anyone does a better reaction to this film than yours. This was fire... Never heard of this channel before this but I gotta sub just based on this reaction. Well done...
@@fochdion1152 ahhhhhh. Thank you 🙌🏽
@@YaBoyRockLee Also the reason Paul and Jessica were so different after the water of life is that it awakens the one who drinks it to the memories of all the Bene Gesserit that came before, like a collective consciosness, so they know everything the Bene Gesserit ever knew. It allows them to play the long game better, but also it's hard not to lose who you were before.
@1:28:00 Notice how this is exactly like the 1st fight we see Paul do in the 1st movie: in his practice fight against Gurney, when they get each other with their blade. Now here, against Feyd, Paul basically does what Gurney did to him, and gets his opponent in the same spot.
The story of Beast Rabban, and Gurney are started way long ago. That's why it didn't take long for Gurney to kill him cuz he knows Rabban very well. Check it out if you intrested.
When flying, “climb” means to go up
S/o to people that miss movie events of a lifetime to give us genuine reactions
The non-drugged Atreides man Feyd fights, is actually (1) the stunt coordinator on both movies & (2) seen in part one, as the Atreides commander leading the first defensive assault in the palace steps against the night attack from Harkonnen.
Jessica was trained her whole life, she has the mental strength and maturity to deal with centuries of memories and trauma of all the past reverend mothers. Alia received the same memories and trauma but without training or the maturity to process them. Alia is at risk of "abomination", being consumed by all the past memories and personalities so they you lose who you are and go wildly out of control. Yes...Alia is going to be a problem.
I hope the spacing guild and space navigators are major players in the next film that would be awesome
LMAO I would have rubbed the blood on the emperor's face too lmao. I'm petty.
56:31 Rock Muad'dib Lee Usul here trying to summon Shai-Hulud
Feyd-Rautha Harkonnen is honorable with-in his world view. Terrible person, great character. In a different world he could easily have been a great ally/friend.
An aircraft can be said to climb to altitude, and no feet or hands are used.
‘Climb” essentially means to ascend, or go upwards.
Can i ask. Why are you explaining this? Its the second time i read it lol. One was condescending.
What part of the video was someone confused. Lol. I just don’t remember.
This explanation sounds obvious , but obviously someone said something in the video to warrant these corrections haha
Someone was like “do plans have arms and legs? “.
Lmao. Had no idea what they were talking about
@@YaBoyRockLeethe question on my mind right now is: Is Dune: Part Two a truly awesome movie?
Effing right it is! 😏
@@davidolden971 the question though 😅
Those black ‘demon’ things you referred to during the colosseum fight are bull fighting picadores, Harkonnen style
I've been waiting for your reaction. You guys are sharp and I always love your discussions in the end.