The scene of Paul embracing his role is some of the best screenwork done in years, so awe-inspiring and so haunting. One speech and he convinces millions of fanatics that he is the savior their entire culture has waited for.
@@ianmills6260exactly this, we root for him to get them on his side so he can kill the emperor and the baron but at the same time we know what him getting them on his side will lead to. it’s so conflicting.
Yes. Denis did a masterful job of clearly showing that Dune is not some white savior novel. It is a cautionary tale about the cost of following a charismatic leader. You root for Paul but despair at what he becomes and where it all leads. And Timothy's acting! His speech at the war council was soul shaking. We know Dune will be nominated again for all those technical awards - special effects, sound, score, costumes, etc. But I think we may also see some serious contenders for acting coming from Part Two.
That scene is, IMO, one of the greatest scenes in cinematic history. The creeping sense that Paul's power has suddenly lurched into a very dark place; the way he embraces how terrifying and alien he is to his followers - 'I am the one your mothers warned you about'. He is exulting in how utterly petrifying he must seem to the people in the cave - he is no longer some kind of Jesus figure with whom they can communicate on a human level; he is now something alien, awesome, that they must simply fear and obey. It is one of the most startling transformations by any actor. The twinkling eyed, soft, determined young man is replaced by a kind of supernatural demon. This film has the feel of a film that will be spoken of in the same breath as all-time greats in ten, twenty years' time, if it isn't already being spoken of in such a way. Villeneuve hasn't done anything anywhere near this brilliant. It feels like he was born to film this story. And I thknk part of the reason it's so great is that he's been able to see the other adaptations and learn from their mistakes. Lynch's version showed him what did and didn't work, what not to do, what kind of scale was appropriate, what to include and not to include. Ditto the nooughties version. It's like Michael Mann remaking LA Takedown as Heat - he learned from the earlier version and made something almost perfect, and Villeneuve has done the same.
Imagine having your whole culture coopted to be turned into blind zealots rampaging through the galaxy, leaving your planet empty. That had to be rough for Chani.
People are so caught up with Stilgar turning into some sort of "comic relief" that they completly miss him going from a strong and respectful leader devolving into nothing more than a blind zealot, completly void of a personality beyond serving the mahdi
@@CedricBassman LITERALLY honestly so many reactions have been kinda lackluster cuz they really don't pick up on a lot..even tho i feel like denis made it all alot more clear especially with the changes to chani... but yeah seeing who Stilgar was in part 1 vs part 2 is extremely telling
I’m glad you appreciated Rebecca Ferguson’s performance, I feel like it doesn’t get praised enough how she transformed from caring mother to plotting Bene Gesserit!
From Part One: Leto: Will you protect our son? Jessica: With my life. Leto: I'm not asking his mother. I'm asking the Bene Gesserit. Jessica: ... ... ... ... ...
@@dematbyes at first she acts for Paul, her son, but after she drinks the poison she acts for Paul the Kwisatz Haderach. Same person but different agendas.
so freaking nice to have someone react who also knows the background of the story. your reaction is totally unique from every other person's i've seen.
Should be clear, Denis has said that he’s taking a break from Dune for a little while so he can explore new projects and he wants Timmy to get a bit older for Messiah. He also said he only wants to make a trilogy and doesn’t want to push past Herbert’s work in Messiah. Definitely the best choice
Being the juggernaut that this franchise is for Warner Brothers, I guarantee you that once Denis finishes Messiah, they will still look to another filmmaker to continue the franchise. With 6 books to pull from, it's simply too much potential money just sitting there for the studio to pass up on.
@@codyt821 The main problem is the degree to which the series gets weird after Messiah. Dune is a -mostly- straightforward hero's journey and Messiah is relatively follow-able tragedy about the cost of power/fanaticism. I think you could maybe stretch Children for a general audience (though concepts like the Golden Path, inherited memories, Ghola, etc would be a tough). Any book after that though? Probably just not possible.
@@kesh862 they would have to change a shit ton to make it something general audiences could accept and enjoy, yeah. And some things after Children of Dune I don't even see how you could even visually film it, it's so out there. But I could see them taking the bare bones of those stories and making major changes to create more films. I don't want that necessarily, but I just wouldn't put it past a film studio to do that, especially with the amount of money and critical acclaim this series is making for WB. Time will tell I guess. I'm excited for the HBO series, and am hopeful for Messiah. And I would even be down for a Children of Dune film. I enjoyed the SciFy miniseries back in the day, and would enjoy a big budget adaptation if done well. Beyond that, major changes would have to be made to make it filmable. You're 100 percent right, it gets very weird and esoteric. I like that stuff and it even gets a little too weird for me at parts.
@@codyt821 I agree, there's plenty of material that would play better on TV. The fandom, quite rightly, is pretty mixed on Brian's work. However there's no denying that they'd be easier for TV than most of Frank's. I can see the other School novels, the House novels, or the Caladan novels being good for TV. Butlerian Jihad novels are probably a little too hard/expensive given their expansive nature, but who knows. In the end, I'll watch all of them. Not only because I love Dune, but because I hope it's successful enough for WB to keep making Dune content.
@@Smeagol601 So, you want to watch a movie and not people react? Then why don't you just watch a movie instead of reactions, sound pretty freaking stupid.
The Confrontation of Gurney and Rabban was perfect. Rabban was a Tyrant, good at oppression of people that are already down. Gurney is a Fighter of the same caliber as Duncan, with both of them being considered better than even the Sardaukar. And it was Duncan *and* Gurney who trained the Atreides Army to such a degree that word already got around the Atreides army is almost on par with the Sardaukar. So Gurney dispatching Rabban in two quick moves, highlighting their ridiculous gap in skill, was perfection.
"May your knife chip and shatter" and the fist pounding on the chest from Jamis, the gesture from chest to forehead with the blade from Duncan... I love this scene
The "flames" from the emperor's ship are due to static induced by the sand, blown by the storm, hitting the Holtzman shield of the ship. And the atomics sent by Paul are meant to blow up a hole into the shield wall, and allow the worms to pass through and attack. Oh and Jessica taught the Chakobsa to Paul, so yes, she knows... :)
1:13:40 in the novel, he sees multiple paths, including one where he sees the baron again and addresses him as grandfather: _He had seen two main branchings along the way ahead--in one he confronted an evil old Baron and said: "Hello, Grandfather."_ Wonder if this is a nod to that, a change from Alia’s scene but still keeping an essence of the original
I love how the harkonnen spice harvesters look like ticks sucking the blood from the planet, just gorgeous visual storytelling and symbolism I also love that in pauls symbolic vision of him following jessica in the south and billions of people dying across the galaxy you can hear water dripping in the background which is a nice addition for non-book readers to associate that vision with the later line "lad then to paradise" showing to those who dont know the full story yet that he chose to kill all of those people and solidifying that paul is a new person now
I rember seeing the troops ascending the rock at the start of the movie looking like ants crawling on a hill. And then when the barons body was fed to the desert it was a mountain of flesh being crawled by bugs so nice symmetry for me 🎉
2 things that are my favorite parts of the movie that you picked up on. 1. How the thopter blew up within the shield itself 2. Irulans costumes. Her chain mail headdress was so elegant yet intimidating. Her and Jessica’s costumes were so cool.
Irulan starts out with no headdress, then adds bits and pieces throughout the film till she's all in chainmail, then in the very last scene she lowers her battoulah - she's regained a tiny amount of control over her life, but is still mostly constrained.
I love that there was no music during that final duel. Other movies would have had loud, dramatic music in the score but having none here makes it so much more dramatic. No music until the duel is over. Brilliant. As far as Walken's performance, I really think he was playing it as a man who had realized a long time before that he has lost and there's really nothing he can do about it at this point. Just my interpretation of what he was doing.
Shaddam, just a little like Paul, had the self-awareness to realize that he was being played by fate. He never figured out how he was being played by the Bene Gesserit, though. I think most or all of his wives were Bene Gesserit, too, ensuring he didn't have a male heir.
Also--I think the film or scene can benefit from music or no music. Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan fighting Darth Maul was a scene where music definitely enhanced it. Paul and Feyd's duel was enhanced by the silence.
@@rikk319 When the scenes are cutting between three different battles, music works better. I think you forget though that Qui-Gon v. Maul and Obi-wan v. Maul solo duels are almost entirely music-silent as well.
On your next rewatch, take note of the not drugged slave in the gladiator pit. It's Lanville, whom has very short brief lines in Part 1 but is recurring up until the attack on Arrakeen. He is the same guy that calls "shields" as the family disembarks from the landing ship for the first time on Arrakis; asks Leto and Gurney to come back indoors because its getting too hot out; and also the one that warns of Stilgar holding a knife before his meeting with Leto.
@@joshuafischer684 They managed to make it so clear he fought hard until he was overwhelmed and captured. They mirror this with Chani's friend who stayed behind at Sietch Tabre, killed many with a single blade until subdued to capture as well. This movie is so darn good with details!
@@SK4Madhi_Freal The Sardaukar were still around by Children of Dune, Leto II married one of them (a Corrino) to his sister. They had just been reduced
Leto II was such a badass at the end of the book. My favorite part is him using Fremen warriors as projectiles against other Fremen warriors. Or when he breaks through the door “designed to withstand incredible forces”.
Dune is what happens when Luke instead kills the Emperor, and says “The Emperor, and my father Darth Vader, were absolute p*ssies. Prepare yourselves.” I’m glad Star Wars had a happier ending, even though I LOVE Dune and it’s message lol. 😅
The cinematography, the music, the setting, the acting...all combine to elevate this movie onto another level. It might be a long long time until we see something like this again.
I actually loved Christopher Walken as the Emperor. He played it so subtly. To me the feeling it invoked was a feeling that the Emperor is allowed to be normal because he has all the power (or thinks he does) while in contrast the Harkonnen are super reactive and fearful and their entire culture is the same because they live in fear of the Emperor, the Harkonnen are sorta like a catch-all as a representation of the other great houses, it's implied that even house Atreides has a checkered past, Leto's father was somewhat of a brute and Leto wanted to be the father for Paul that his father wasn't for him, which drew people to Leto because he cultivated a culture of trust, communication, community and loyalty making it easy to turn the Emperor against Leto who the Emperor saw as a threat to his power and authority and ultimately his safety. The Emperor is meant to appear as old, tired, with too much shoved onto his plate trying to walk a knifes edge and I think Walken did a phenomenal job. I also loved the touch that the Barren was trying to crawl to the throne while the Emperor, tired and haggard from a lifetime of holding that responsibility just ignores the throne which is nothing but a symbol, a stupid man's idea of power, and he addresses the real power in the room: Paul. Paul also completely ignores the physical throne because it's just a symbol. In the books when Paul does sit on the throne he sees the physical throne as nothing more than for a leader to hide how tired he is.
A strong Emperor in his twilight years. Vitality lost, harried by the Landsraat, forced by his own survival instincts to slay his surrogate son to retain power, relying on the toxic cancer of the Harkonnen to do his dirty work... I think Walken played the Emperor beautifully.
I'm so glad you shared this reaction with us!!! it's nice to watch with someone who already knows what's happening, and can even give context 🤣 thank you! & Jessica walking around talking to her womb is crazy LMAO I would be very scared 😂 I love that line the rev mom said "we don't hope, we plan" they're way too shady! Feyd is psychotic and I love it 🤣 & I hated those ink blotch fireworks but I love the black & white aesthetic of their planet
If you ever feel moved to, look up the production design for Jodorowsky's Dune project. The drawings by H.R. Giger, Moebius, and Chris Foss were clearly inspirations for Villeneuve's version, and it's most clear in all the Harkonnen designs.
Everyone who'd read the book going into this had certain scenes of the book which really resonated with them, but were changed for the film. For whatever reason, mine was the fight between Paul and Feyd. The movie version is FANTASTIC cinema, but in the book it's a duel on so many more levels. It's a dance macabre of despair, training, treachery, strategy, rage, and in the end, bitter victory. I'd be ungodly greedy if I let that ruin my enjoyment of this amazing film, but it did give me a twinge.
In my opinion, this movie absolutely deserves to be re-released in theaters at least once. If not multiple times, I would go see it every time. It’s brings back memories of when people would actually line up hours ahead of time to see a blockbuster movie. I would love to go see it in a theater again.
Damn bro you have such a different perspective of watching these movies, you really get into the details or realize them, and I think I've watched dune 2 like 6 times and i never caught them on. Really great to watch your reaction, you must be a wizard
Leto was not weak. He refused to participate in the evil actions of the Empire and the Great Families. He behaved in a just manner, no matter the provocation. That is the definition of strength. The weak person says "It's necessary" to excuse their bad actions.
He was weak though. He caused most of his men and family fortunes to perish in the name of sympathy, when he could have been more ruthless to not only prevail over Harkonen but also tame his son's prophecy and prevent all the deaths and destruction. The central thesis of Dune has never been about "good vs evil". The depiction of the Atredes being "good guys" and the Harkonen being the "bad guys" was an intentional wool over our eyes to make the audience side with Paul, which ultimately is a head fake that makes us realize that we too were swooped in by the Messiah narrative and complicit in Paul ultimately committing mass murders. In the end, these were all feudal houses in very gray moral shades that all fought for survival and would do all they could to best the other houses. Leto being somewhat "humanist" ultimately resulted in his demise, and ushered in the rise of Paul who was worse than any Harkonen ever could be. If there was a "thesis", especially considering the later stories and the entire arc of Leto the second, was that sometimes our best humanist instincts don't really serve us well.
Spoilers alert* Even Paul eventually waivers from the Golden Path because he couldn’t bear the suffering any longer. His son, Leto II does take up the Mantle, becomes a Tyrant, endures all the pain and loneliness, and successfully guides mankind to a better future. Does that make Paul a “weak” man compared to his son?
Leto was a good man and a good leader but not a good politician. In that regard, he was indeed weak. Not that it is entirely his fault, since the Atreides have been snugly fitted for tens of thousands of years and Caladan is a peaceful world. No need to be an evil political mastermind when you're secure. But as soon as the ball entered the Imperium's court, Leto lost.
Excellent reaction. Few other reactors have made so many observations that echo my own. I think this is the first time anyone has joined me in making the “cowbell” joke. And yes, a sniper occultation to accompany the eclipse. I imagine Paul thinking of OPPENHEIMER and saying, “Yeah, I got your Trinity Test . . . right here!”
It occurs to me at around 19:00 that the reason he expected Jamis is because 1) he killed the man and he feels he deserves to be haunted and 2) he dreamed of Jamis showing him the way of the desert. That would have been a very interesting undead/jinn mentor situation.
I think the changes was probably for better flow. Baby Alia would have been creepy if she was born just like the other iterations. Chani not giving birth to Paul’s son didn’t bother me. I’m grateful Denis Villeneuve doesn’t like using heavy dialog and his movies never disappoint. It was brilliant not using any music during Paul and Feyd’s final battle. Just hearing grunts, blocks, and knives clashing made the scene more powerful and Hans knew less is more in this scene. Great reaction! 🍻
I don't believe his father was a weak man. He just got caught unprepared as anyone can be in life. I admire his character immensely. He loved his people more than anyone.
It's not about the Harkonnens "coming out clean" it's about using the secret as political leverage to to make a deal with the Emperor. Also, I think the visual design of House Corrino is meant to focus on open air and greenery. It's the most temperate looking place we've seen. Caladan had plenty of water and green, but it also seemed drizzly and cold, the other two places we've seen are obvious in their drawbacks.
There's also the whole "old money style" when it comes to wealth and privilege - people with real generational wealth are usually not ostentatious, preferring a form of elegance that can sometimes mask extremely advanced craftsmanship and cultivation.
Ah, that might make more sense. My impression was that, since Paul mentiones the Atreides and Harkonnen having fought for centuries, that conflict between the non-imperial great houses is fair play, but the Emperor showing favouritism (by lending his own forces to upset any natural balance) would be seen as dishonourable. As far as I understood it, the whole point of the great houses is that they as a collective are a check against imperial abuse, this balance is upset when the Imperial forces aid a speicifc great house against another.
@@Nikolaj11 There's a little of that, sure, it's no secret the houses don't like each other, but with no witnesses or recordings of what happened the Harkonnens and the Emperor could just claim the Fremen wiped out the Atreides or whatever story they wanted and have neither of them look bad.
@@WiqidBritt Oh yeah, for sure, but my though was more in regards to if the Harkonnens were to reveal the truth, the Emperor might look worse and the houses might not think Harkonnens guilty of a crime.
One of the best freaking movie I've ever watched. Edit: GODDAMN I still get chills throughout the end. The facial expressions from everyone is incredible and Timothee's performance is just chef's kiss.
I never thought we'd get a sci-fi movie of this calibre in this time. I'm so glad its had such a great impact on everyone and it gives me hope for the future of sci-fi movies in general.
Masterpiece‼️ Thank you for your reaction, I was waiting in anticipation for your reaction and as always didn’t disappoint! I’m still speechless on both Dune movies, I’ll be thinking of these gorgeously made movies for years to come! Wow! 💛
One detail that I adore, but see barely anyone pick up on (at least on first watch, cause it took me a second watch to figure out and a third one to make sure it's deliberate), is that Chani's tear was completely irrelevant to resurrecting Paul. As in the novel, Paul had already survived the Water of life, but got trapped inside his own mind, so at that point what's needed is just to give him another drop of the water of life for his body to sense it from the outside and him snapping back into reality. This is why when Jessica then wants Chani to resurrect him, Chani realizes that Jessica is basically just dragging it out purely so that "some stupid prophecy" about "Sihaya aka desert spring" can be woven into the moment to enhance the religious impact on the Fremen. So understandably, Chani instead of resurrecting Paul justifiably sets her concern aside and gets pissed at Jessica ("do it yourself") until Jessica literally forces her to participate in the mythmaking. It's freaking genius.
Lead them to paradise breaks me everytime, goosebumps and tears knowing what those words cause. These two movies are just such a masterclass of filmaking and story telling
I’m also in agreement that Christopher Walken as the emperor left something to be desired. I don’t think he gave a bad performance or even that his face is too recognizable, honestly I think his voice is too distinct and that when you hear him talk the first thing that comes to mind is “more cowbell” I wish they would have explored Kaitain a little more and we could have got a look at the golden lion throne.
The scene after Paul's resurrection is, IMO, already one of the greatest scenes in cinematic history. The creeping sense that Paul's power has suddenly lurched into a very dark place; the way he embraces how terrifying and alien he is to his followers - 'I am the one your mothers warned you about'. He is exulting in how utterly petrifying he must seem to the people in the cave - he is no longer some kind of Jesus figure with whom they can communicate on a human level; he is now something alien, frightening, unpredictable, that they must simply fear and obey. He can look inside their heads! Imagine a god who can look inside your head... You'd better believe in him as hard as you can, right? Otherwise he'll know, and who can say what he'll do to you? It is one of the most startling transformations by any actor. The twinkling eyed, soft, determined young man is replaced by a kind of supernatural demon, with a voice that can shatter buildings. This film has the feel of a film that will be spoken of in the same breath as all-time greats in ten, twenty years' time, if it isn't already being spoken of in such a way. Villeneuve hasn't done anything half as good as either Dune film IMO. It feels like he was born to film this story. And I think part of the reason it's so great is that he's been able to see the other adaptations and learn from their mistakes. Lynch's version showed him what did and didn't work, what not to do, what kind of scale was appropriate, what to include and not to include. Ditto the noughties version. It's like Michael Mann remaking LA Takedown as Heat - he learned from the earlier version and made something almost perfect, and Villeneuve has done the same.
Paul and Jessica were both utterly terrifying after drinking the Water of Life. I felt nothing but dread and unease during the climax of the film…on one hand, it’s exhilarating to see Paul get revenge on the Emperor and the Harkonnens, but you also have a pit in your stomach due to his radical change in personality. You just know it’s not going to end well even if you haven’t read the books.
@@keefriff99 Paul and Jessica were both terrifying, yes. Jessica's face after she comes back from the other side - 'the beauty and the horror'. I've not read the books, but I know people who have and I get the general shape of Paul's arc. Isn't it strange that you can watch a film, knowing exactly what's going to happen to the main character...yet still hope and desire for a different outcome? What's going on there in us when we rewatch a film we've seen hundreds of times and still find ourselves believing things can turn out differently? Some kind of confusion about free will clearly. We know the characters in the film have no free will but we still believe they can do differently each time. Now imagine being Paul, and being able to see someone's life stretched out like you or I can watch the story of Walter White. He can see they have no free-will, like we can see Walter White has none either.
This is such a treat. I love his Star Wars channel- his expertise of even the most obscure lore really elevates whatever he's reacting to/commenting on. When I saw that he graced the internet with a DUNE PART 2 reaction and seeing that he was bringing that same energy in the intro, I knew we were all in for a treat. This is *EXQUISITE* content.
I’m a 65 year old sci-fi fan who also read all of the Dune books. I was disappointed with the Lynch version and was a gigantic fan of the Sci-fi mini-series “Dune” and “Children of Dune” for the exact same reasons as you. Most of my peers had never read the books and preferred the Lynch movie, above attempts to explain which was ridiculous on my part. I was afraid of what was to come of the Villenueve release. Villenueve and every single aspect of the new Dune movies have completely blown me away. The heart of the Dune books remains alive and strong despite them being less faithful to the details in the book. How he was able to achieve that is truly remarkable! To put it into perspective, I have probably watched “Children of Dune” fifty times over the years and its predecessor i’ve only been able to watch it on TH-cam. Your reaction and analysis has made me a subscriber to your channel.
A strong Emperor in his twilight years. Vitality lost, harried by the Landsraat, forced by his own survival instincts to slay his surrogate son to retain power, left with his only royal daughter who could not inherit the throne, relying on the toxic cancer of the Harkonnen to do his dirty work... I think Walken played the Emperor masterfully.
Ever since seeing her as Rose the Hat, Rebecca Ferguson has scared the hell out of me. And *then* I realized I’d seen her before in a Mission: Impossible movie. I don’t quite understand how someone so mind-bogglingly stunning can also be a chameleon. Oh yeah… talent. Meanwhile, her portrayal of Jessica in the second movie out-Roses Rose. I mean, if you ever need to cast an utterly terrifying female lead, and you also want her to be drop-dead gorgeous, Rebecca’s your girl. And I have no idea, but I’ll bet she’s a sweetheart in person.
This was an awesome reaction to a masterpiece of a movie and I thank you for choosing to let us watch along while you experience it for the first time my dude! Cause I mean like seriously tho…even with a big screen to watch on…it can’t even begin to compare it to the intended mind blowing I-Max experience! So thanks for kinda sorta taking a little L by sharing with us my dude!😉👍😅
1:10:30 in the board game (recommend play it one day, original version andn ot the movie version) the wall blocks off the sandstorm that goes around the planet. there is a card where if you deploy your troops at a certain moment in the game rounds you can play that card to blow up the wall. so troops within the safe zones are no longer safe and get killed if hit by the sandstorm and it limits ppl (unless your fremen faction) movement in that area if storm is passing by.
this was a great reaction. Some really sharp insights that I haven't seen in other reactions. Like Gurney wearing a recycled Sardaukar helmet. A reaction worthy of such an amazing film. Great stuff. Blessings from Australia.
I think the "flames" coming off of the Emperor's ship is its shield getting de-polarized from all the static electricity in the air due to the Grandmother storm that's coming. That's why Paul timed his attack with the storm because it will fuck up their shields.
Just caught the meaning when Paul kills the Barron. - Stab to the neck (like the needle of the Gom Jabbar) - "You die like an animal." (the reason for the Gom Jabbar test) I swear, the pool of water that is this story just gets deeper the more you look into it.
On top of it just being a flat-out _incredible_ film, it's especially enjoyable seeing you respond to things as a really long-time fan of the story & universe.
And there are thousands of such caches... Even if the average is only 10 million people per "well", and even if there's only 5,000 "wells" on the planet, that's a hell of a lot of people's water.
@@DoremiFasolatido1979 Ok so taking this further lets say by your math its 50 billion people. They said there were "millions of fremen" so lets be conservative and say 10 million. That would mean 5000 generations of every single fremen born would have to be in the well. If we assume the average generation length is the same as earth, 27 years, that would mean the fremen have waited for 135,000 years??? If you assume its closer to 3 million fremen then its ~500,000 years 🤯 and dune is set in like ~10,000 right? Oh well I guess somethings arent meant to be taken this seriously
@@agentseptember7185 Correct. But, presumably, part of that water is also from other "pure" sources. Water from nature itself, also sacred enough to be united with the souls of the dead. That's my take, anyway. Otherwise...yeah, it gets absurd pretty quickly.
I'm not entirely sure, but I think that, during that scene in Sietch Tabr, we actually hear Alia talk to Jessica - it's her who suggests targeting the weak ones. Someone else also suggested that she may be possessing Jessica.
My man I appreciate you waiting to see it so we get to see you react, but as soon as you are done with this go to the theater and see it there. I have seen it in the theater four times, on my 80 inch TV a few times, on my 32 inch TV a few times, and on my iPad Pro a few times. Nothing compares to the movies theater. Many of the scenes look a little less real on TV's as opposed to in the theater. One scene that comes to mind is when Rabban is fighting the fremen on the ramp of his Ornithopter. That scene is stunning in the theater. On a TV is looks a little fake. Anyway, it was a great reaction as always. I was excited to see what you would think, since you and your buddy are such massive Star Wars fans, you must be Dune fans too. Your my go to reactors on Star Wars and most stuff like it.
13:05 I did the math. The average human body contains ~0.6 liters of water. 38 million dekaliters divided by 0.6liters equals about 633,000,000 people. And that's *just* in Siech Tabr.
Loved to see a reaction by a fellow dune enthusiast! Loved the Dune Mini-series, Quinn’s Ideas has some of the best Dune lore if anyone needs a place to go
46:12 "I sense some Bene Gesserit fuckery... literally" HAHAHAHA XD And yes, you are right, so many people in their reaction point out to Margot Fenring using the Voice on Feyd, but I agree with you that she doesn't need to do it at all - and I never got the impression that she does. She simply knows his levers.
The baron made perfect sense. Many of the houses have fought against each other for thousands of years. The movie also told you that Spice is why vast space can be ruled. Who ran Arrakis and was sole spice merchant? House Harkonnen.
That’s a good comparison. I understand why Jackson made the decision to designate Gimli as the “comic relief”…it’s filmmaking 101, but at the same time, he went overboard. Yes, Gimli is absolutely portrayed as a formidable warrior, but turning to him EVERY time for levity (usually by making him the butt of the joke) got annoying after a while and reduced his dignity. And don’t get me started on “Legolas the Infallible”… As far as Stilgar… he does fulfill the role of comic relief at times, but it wasn’t nearly as overdone as Gimli was.
What others are saying is comedy I see as purely tragic. Seeing such a strong wise, dignified man in the first film be reduced to a small minded religious zealot because of that manipulative prophecy is beyond sad.
13:10 To your question: The average adult body holds about 40 Litres of Water (including intracellular Water). To fill the pool would take at least 9,5 million Bodies - if they are able to extract every last drop of water. Otherwise we could be talking about any number between 10 and 75 million.
01:02:15 - Tetsuo in the house. Given that Chani's character, who was a more passive and accepting follower in the novel to someone who resisted and questioned Paul's shift into the KH position of this adaptation, I wonder what changes you might predict for the third film. Is it going to go down the same way as in the book, or will there be kind of a reversal of fates for Usul and Sihaya?
I really enjoy Reaction Videos! I have seen several on Dune 2 and yours was by far the best! Your knowledge of the Dune Saga enhanced the experience! Thank you!
1:19:27 yeah but the princess seemed quite impressed and charmed by Paul (from the first moment she ever heard of him.. and now even more). 😆 1:20:28 polygamy is the solution 😅
I’ve now seen Dune: Part Two multiple times; 3 times in 70mm 15perf IMAX & 5 times on UHD blu ray….& it just keeps getting better. Words can’t even begin to describe just how stunning it was in IMAX. Even as a long time fan of the novel; which I first read back in the 80s, every aspect of this film is beyond what I expected. The eclipse looks so good at the start, because they actually managed to film a really eclipse; & then enhanced it with the second moon. Regarding the volume of water in Seitch Tabir (& correct me if my maths is wrong). A 70kg human holds approximately 42 litres of water. 42 litres = 42’000 millilitres 1 decilitre = 100 millilitres Therefore 38 million decilitre would equal water from approximately 9.5 million people Villeneuve’s adaptation of Dune: Messiah is going to be something very special & we’re going to have one of the; if not the finest trilogy ever!!
Yepp, simply a spot on reaction. This was me the entire movie ( 32:19 ) Would have been fun to see Count Hasimir Fenring. But alas, it is a movie and they have to cut out a lot. I thought the flames on the emperors ship was sand and wind interacting with shields. Again, such a good reaction!
01:25:20 I'm the opposite - this is exactly what I expected. Gurney is one of the Atreides' greatest fighters. Rabban is a cruel, clumsy coward who's only tough against his subordinates or when he has superior numbers on his side. Of course Gurney would make quick work of him.
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This reaction was recorded two weeks ago, I have since watched Dune Part 2 in IMAX 2 times! Oh my GAD
That’s what a lot of people have done. Such a good movie. I wish they’d take both to theaters at the same time though
Bless the Maker and His Water.
This movie is amazing in IMAX! Glad you were able to see it in the theater.
I really wish they left Jessica speech to Chani about wives in.
As written…
The scene of Paul embracing his role is some of the best screenwork done in years, so awe-inspiring and so haunting. One speech and he convinces millions of fanatics that he is the savior their entire culture has waited for.
Such a bittersweet scene. You can't help but root for Paul, even though you know he is exploiting the fremen.
@@ianmills6260exactly this, we root for him to get them on his side so he can kill the emperor and the baron but at the same time we know what him getting them on his side will lead to. it’s so conflicting.
Yes. Denis did a masterful job of clearly showing that Dune is not some white savior novel. It is a cautionary tale about the cost of following a charismatic leader. You root for Paul but despair at what he becomes and where it all leads. And Timothy's acting! His speech at the war council was soul shaking. We know Dune will be nominated again for all those technical awards - special effects, sound, score, costumes, etc. But I think we may also see some serious contenders for acting coming from Part Two.
That scene is, IMO, one of the greatest scenes in cinematic history. The creeping sense that Paul's power has suddenly lurched into a very dark place; the way he embraces how terrifying and alien he is to his followers - 'I am the one your mothers warned you about'. He is exulting in how utterly petrifying he must seem to the people in the cave - he is no longer some kind of Jesus figure with whom they can communicate on a human level; he is now something alien, awesome, that they must simply fear and obey. It is one of the most startling transformations by any actor. The twinkling eyed, soft, determined young man is replaced by a kind of supernatural demon.
This film has the feel of a film that will be spoken of in the same breath as all-time greats in ten, twenty years' time, if it isn't already being spoken of in such a way. Villeneuve hasn't done anything anywhere near this brilliant. It feels like he was born to film this story. And I thknk part of the reason it's so great is that he's been able to see the other adaptations and learn from their mistakes. Lynch's version showed him what did and didn't work, what not to do, what kind of scale was appropriate, what to include and not to include. Ditto the nooughties version. It's like Michael Mann remaking LA Takedown as Heat - he learned from the earlier version and made something almost perfect, and Villeneuve has done the same.
@@thesprawl2361 Its almost as if Denis Villeneuve was fated to make this movie.
Imagine having your whole culture coopted to be turned into blind zealots rampaging through the galaxy, leaving your planet empty.
That had to be rough for Chani.
People are so caught up with Stilgar turning into some sort of "comic relief" that they completly miss him going from a strong and respectful leader devolving into nothing more than a blind zealot, completly void of a personality beyond serving the mahdi
@@CedricBassman LITERALLY honestly so many reactions have been kinda lackluster cuz they really don't pick up on a lot..even tho i feel like denis made it all alot more clear especially with the changes to chani... but yeah seeing who Stilgar was in part 1 vs part 2 is extremely telling
ahhh you're twice reborn. my friend become thrice reborn. some prophecies are real far from where they are fake.
I’m glad you appreciated Rebecca Ferguson’s performance, I feel like it doesn’t get praised enough how she transformed from caring mother to plotting Bene Gesserit!
From Part One:
Leto: Will you protect our son?
Jessica: With my life.
Leto: I'm not asking his mother. I'm asking the Bene Gesserit.
Jessica: ... ... ... ... ...
Seriously. From a very motherly figure to just frigging scary! Even her glance or look was terrifying.
She Still acts for him
@@dematbyes at first she acts for Paul, her son, but after she drinks the poison she acts for Paul the Kwisatz Haderach. Same person but different agendas.
@@SuperStella1111 Especially the stare that turns from neutral to almost evil.
so freaking nice to have someone react who also knows the background of the story. your reaction is totally unique from every other person's i've seen.
Should be clear, Denis has said that he’s taking a break from Dune for a little while so he can explore new projects and he wants Timmy to get a bit older for Messiah. He also said he only wants to make a trilogy and doesn’t want to push past Herbert’s work in Messiah. Definitely the best choice
Being the juggernaut that this franchise is for Warner Brothers, I guarantee you that once Denis finishes Messiah, they will still look to another filmmaker to continue the franchise. With 6 books to pull from, it's simply too much potential money just sitting there for the studio to pass up on.
@@codyt821 The main problem is the degree to which the series gets weird after Messiah. Dune is a -mostly- straightforward hero's journey and Messiah is relatively follow-able tragedy about the cost of power/fanaticism. I think you could maybe stretch Children for a general audience (though concepts like the Golden Path, inherited memories, Ghola, etc would be a tough). Any book after that though? Probably just not possible.
@@kesh862 they would have to change a shit ton to make it something general audiences could accept and enjoy, yeah. And some things after Children of Dune I don't even see how you could even visually film it, it's so out there. But I could see them taking the bare bones of those stories and making major changes to create more films. I don't want that necessarily, but I just wouldn't put it past a film studio to do that, especially with the amount of money and critical acclaim this series is making for WB. Time will tell I guess. I'm excited for the HBO series, and am hopeful for Messiah. And I would even be down for a Children of Dune film. I enjoyed the SciFy miniseries back in the day, and would enjoy a big budget adaptation if done well. Beyond that, major changes would have to be made to make it filmable. You're 100 percent right, it gets very weird and esoteric. I like that stuff and it even gets a little too weird for me at parts.
@@codyt821 I agree, there's plenty of material that would play better on TV. The fandom, quite rightly, is pretty mixed on Brian's work. However there's no denying that they'd be easier for TV than most of Frank's. I can see the other School novels, the House novels, or the Caladan novels being good for TV. Butlerian Jihad novels are probably a little too hard/expensive given their expansive nature, but who knows.
In the end, I'll watch all of them. Not only because I love Dune, but because I hope it's successful enough for WB to keep making Dune content.
@kesh862 Ghola are introduced in Messiah so... I'm interested to see how *the actor* changes his performance for that role.
This is a good reaction, without jokes every 5 minutes and appreciating the details
I don't like reactions where they constantly talk over the movie, I like when they are really watching the movie.
@@Smeagol601 So, you want to watch a movie and not people react? Then why don't you just watch a movie instead of reactions, sound pretty freaking stupid.
The Confrontation of Gurney and Rabban was perfect.
Rabban was a Tyrant, good at oppression of people that are already down. Gurney is a Fighter of the same caliber as Duncan, with both of them being considered better than even the Sardaukar. And it was Duncan *and* Gurney who trained the Atreides Army to such a degree that word already got around the Atreides army is almost on par with the Sardaukar.
So Gurney dispatching Rabban in two quick moves, highlighting their ridiculous gap in skill, was perfection.
"May your knife chip and shatter" and the fist pounding on the chest from Jamis, the gesture from chest to forehead with the blade from Duncan... I love this scene
The "flames" from the emperor's ship are due to static induced by the sand, blown by the storm, hitting the Holtzman shield of the ship. And the atomics sent by Paul are meant to blow up a hole into the shield wall, and allow the worms to pass through and attack. Oh and Jessica taught the Chakobsa to Paul, so yes, she knows... :)
Thank you for answering that, I had been wondering about the "flames" as well. :)
It is SO satisfying watching the reaction of a true super fan of not only the movies, but obviously the novels. Great reaction Grizzled Wizard!
1:13:40 in the novel, he sees multiple paths, including one where he sees the baron again and addresses him as grandfather:
_He had seen two main branchings along the way ahead--in one he confronted an evil old Baron and said: "Hello, Grandfather."_
Wonder if this is a nod to that, a change from Alia’s scene but still keeping an essence of the original
6 minutes into the reaction, you'd know this reactor is the best there is on YT reacting to Dune 2.
*reacting to everything
He sure is… one of the best videos I’ve seen so far
This & the Normies is top tier
@@dragerdet the Normies might be the most media illiterate reactors on the site
So far it's been the only reaction by a serious book reader. Makes it so much more interesting from everything else.
I love how the harkonnen spice harvesters look like ticks sucking the blood from the planet, just gorgeous visual storytelling and symbolism
I also love that in pauls symbolic vision of him following jessica in the south and billions of people dying across the galaxy you can hear water dripping in the background which is a nice addition for non-book readers to associate that vision with the later line "lad then to paradise" showing to those who dont know the full story yet that he chose to kill all of those people and solidifying that paul is a new person now
I rember seeing the troops ascending the rock at the start of the movie looking like ants crawling on a hill. And then when the barons body was fed to the desert it was a mountain of flesh being crawled by bugs so nice symmetry for me 🎉
It was nice to have someone who really knew the story react to the movie.. I love all the other people's reactions, but you know the story.
It's pretty amazing to watch a Dune reaction in which the person reacting is explaining things to the viewers rather than vice-versa. Well done!
2 things that are my favorite parts of the movie that you picked up on.
1. How the thopter blew up within the shield itself
2. Irulans costumes. Her chain mail headdress was so elegant yet intimidating. Her and Jessica’s costumes were so cool.
Irulan starts out with no headdress, then adds bits and pieces throughout the film till she's all in chainmail, then in the very last scene she lowers her battoulah - she's regained a tiny amount of control over her life, but is still mostly constrained.
I see the opposite. In the first scene, she was free. But the elements to her costume add opporesion. The last outfit tells a lot about her fate.
I love that there was no music during that final duel. Other movies would have had loud, dramatic music in the score but having none here makes it so much more dramatic. No music until the duel is over. Brilliant. As far as Walken's performance, I really think he was playing it as a man who had realized a long time before that he has lost and there's really nothing he can do about it at this point. Just my interpretation of what he was doing.
Shaddam, just a little like Paul, had the self-awareness to realize that he was being played by fate. He never figured out how he was being played by the Bene Gesserit, though. I think most or all of his wives were Bene Gesserit, too, ensuring he didn't have a male heir.
Also--I think the film or scene can benefit from music or no music. Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan fighting Darth Maul was a scene where music definitely enhanced it. Paul and Feyd's duel was enhanced by the silence.
@@rikk319 When the scenes are cutting between three different battles, music works better. I think you forget though that Qui-Gon v. Maul and Obi-wan v. Maul solo duels are almost entirely music-silent as well.
Walken is a man bowing to fate: a better franchise has dethroned his ;)
Actually the silent final battle has been very mainstream for about a decade.
It is effective, but it's definitely not something new.
On your next rewatch, take note of the not drugged slave in the gladiator pit. It's Lanville, whom has very short brief lines in Part 1 but is recurring up until the attack on Arrakeen. He is the same guy that calls "shields" as the family disembarks from the landing ship for the first time on Arrakis; asks Leto and Gurney to come back indoors because its getting too hot out; and also the one that warns of Stilgar holding a knife before his meeting with Leto.
It's a small role, but he shows the competence and professionalism of the Atreides troops perfectly.
@@joshuafischer684 They managed to make it so clear he fought hard until he was overwhelmed and captured. They mirror this with Chani's friend who stayed behind at Sietch Tabre, killed many with a single blade until subdued to capture as well. This movie is so darn good with details!
He’s also the person who trained the actors in the martial arts for the stupendous fight scenes.
@@LCLoyal found this out only yesterday! Was totally blown away by that info
My favorite fan theory is that the voice at the beginning is Leto II recording in his journals and speaking to us across time and space.
I like that theory, but it does raise the question why he would be speaking the Sardaukar language.
Yeah I heard that theory too. Seeing as the Sardaukar language would be dead by the time LetoII comes about.
@@SK4Madhi_Freal The Sardaukar were still around by Children of Dune, Leto II married one of them (a Corrino) to his sister. They had just been reduced
Leto II was such a badass at the end of the book. My favorite part is him using Fremen warriors as projectiles against other Fremen warriors. Or when he breaks through the door “designed to withstand incredible forces”.
@@niamhmaloney8750was it the former emperors grandson he married her to?
Dune is what happens when Luke instead kills the Emperor, and says “The Emperor, and my father Darth Vader, were absolute p*ssies. Prepare yourselves.” I’m glad Star Wars had a happier ending, even though I LOVE Dune and it’s message lol. 😅
Yeah. Technically, Vader / Anakin is more Paul, than Luke is, despite the inspiration it took of Dune.
Lucas toyed with an ending for ROTJ where Luke kills Vader and the Emperor, puts on Vaders helmet and orders Jerrjerod to destroy the Rebellion.
@@Deagneticthat’ll be a fun what if scenario
The cinematography, the music, the setting, the acting...all combine to elevate this movie onto another level. It might be a long long time until we see something like this again.
This film is clearly an entire crew just doing everything 100%
I actually loved Christopher Walken as the Emperor. He played it so subtly. To me the feeling it invoked was a feeling that the Emperor is allowed to be normal because he has all the power (or thinks he does) while in contrast the Harkonnen are super reactive and fearful and their entire culture is the same because they live in fear of the Emperor, the Harkonnen are sorta like a catch-all as a representation of the other great houses, it's implied that even house Atreides has a checkered past, Leto's father was somewhat of a brute and Leto wanted to be the father for Paul that his father wasn't for him, which drew people to Leto because he cultivated a culture of trust, communication, community and loyalty making it easy to turn the Emperor against Leto who the Emperor saw as a threat to his power and authority and ultimately his safety. The Emperor is meant to appear as old, tired, with too much shoved onto his plate trying to walk a knifes edge and I think Walken did a phenomenal job. I also loved the touch that the Barren was trying to crawl to the throne while the Emperor, tired and haggard from a lifetime of holding that responsibility just ignores the throne which is nothing but a symbol, a stupid man's idea of power, and he addresses the real power in the room: Paul. Paul also completely ignores the physical throne because it's just a symbol. In the books when Paul does sit on the throne he sees the physical throne as nothing more than for a leader to hide how tired he is.
A strong Emperor in his twilight years. Vitality lost, harried by the Landsraat, forced by his own survival instincts to slay his surrogate son to retain power, relying on the toxic cancer of the Harkonnen to do his dirty work... I think Walken played the Emperor beautifully.
"How shall we f--k off my lord?"
He has ascended...oh wait no there he is.
Best Sci Fi movie I’ve ever seen - everything - the story - the cinematography - the characters - the visuals - so enjoyable !!
I'm so glad you shared this reaction with us!!! it's nice to watch with someone who already knows what's happening, and can even give context 🤣 thank you! & Jessica walking around talking to her womb is crazy LMAO I would be very scared 😂 I love that line the rev mom said "we don't hope, we plan" they're way too shady! Feyd is psychotic and I love it 🤣 & I hated those ink blotch fireworks but I love the black & white aesthetic of their planet
Dune part 2 was incredible
I'm not going to lie I absolutely love the esthetic of house harkonnen.
If you ever feel moved to, look up the production design for Jodorowsky's Dune project. The drawings by H.R. Giger, Moebius, and Chris Foss were clearly inspirations for Villeneuve's version, and it's most clear in all the Harkonnen designs.
Everyone who'd read the book going into this had certain scenes of the book which really resonated with them, but were changed for the film. For whatever reason, mine was the fight between Paul and Feyd. The movie version is FANTASTIC cinema, but in the book it's a duel on so many more levels. It's a dance macabre of despair, training, treachery, strategy, rage, and in the end, bitter victory. I'd be ungodly greedy if I let that ruin my enjoyment of this amazing film, but it did give me a twinge.
In my opinion, this movie absolutely deserves to be re-released in theaters at least once. If not multiple times, I would go see it every time. It’s brings back memories of when people would actually line up hours ahead of time to see a blockbuster movie. I would love to go see it in a theater again.
Damn bro you have such a different perspective of watching these movies, you really get into the details or realize them, and I think I've watched dune 2 like 6 times and i never caught them on. Really great to watch your reaction, you must be a wizard
Leto was not weak. He refused to participate in the evil actions of the Empire and the Great Families. He behaved in a just manner, no matter the provocation. That is the definition of strength. The weak person says "It's necessary" to excuse their bad actions.
He was weak though. He caused most of his men and family fortunes to perish in the name of sympathy, when he could have been more ruthless to not only prevail over Harkonen but also tame his son's prophecy and prevent all the deaths and destruction. The central thesis of Dune has never been about "good vs evil". The depiction of the Atredes being "good guys" and the Harkonen being the "bad guys" was an intentional wool over our eyes to make the audience side with Paul, which ultimately is a head fake that makes us realize that we too were swooped in by the Messiah narrative and complicit in Paul ultimately committing mass murders. In the end, these were all feudal houses in very gray moral shades that all fought for survival and would do all they could to best the other houses. Leto being somewhat "humanist" ultimately resulted in his demise, and ushered in the rise of Paul who was worse than any Harkonen ever could be. If there was a "thesis", especially considering the later stories and the entire arc of Leto the second, was that sometimes our best humanist instincts don't really serve us well.
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Even Paul eventually waivers from the Golden Path because he couldn’t bear the suffering any longer. His son, Leto II does take up the Mantle, becomes a Tyrant, endures all the pain and loneliness, and successfully guides mankind to a better future. Does that make Paul a “weak” man compared to his son?
He wanted to use the Fremen for his own goals so I'm not sure how noble he would have been if he had lived.
@@resathe6760 Eh, "use" is a harsh word. He would have hired them, simple as. Labour for money and water.
Leto was a good man and a good leader but not a good politician. In that regard, he was indeed weak. Not that it is entirely his fault, since the Atreides have been snugly fitted for tens of thousands of years and Caladan is a peaceful world. No need to be an evil political mastermind when you're secure. But as soon as the ball entered the Imperium's court, Leto lost.
Excellent reaction. Few other reactors have made so many observations that echo my own. I think this is the first time anyone has joined me in making the “cowbell” joke. And yes, a sniper occultation to accompany the eclipse. I imagine Paul thinking of OPPENHEIMER and saying, “Yeah, I got your Trinity Test . . . right here!”
It occurs to me at around 19:00 that the reason he expected Jamis is because 1) he killed the man and he feels he deserves to be haunted and 2) he dreamed of Jamis showing him the way of the desert. That would have been a very interesting undead/jinn mentor situation.
I think the changes was probably for better flow. Baby Alia would have been creepy if she was born just like the other iterations. Chani not giving birth to Paul’s son didn’t bother me. I’m grateful Denis Villeneuve doesn’t like using heavy dialog and his movies never disappoint. It was brilliant not using any music during Paul and Feyd’s final battle. Just hearing grunts, blocks, and knives clashing made the scene more powerful and Hans knew less is more in this scene. Great reaction! 🍻
What a pleasant surprise to see Dune 2 pop up on this channel! Grizz is the lisan al gaib of reactors in the Star Wars/Duneverse.
I don't believe his father was a weak man. He just got caught unprepared as anyone can be in life. I admire his character immensely. He loved his people more than anyone.
I would spend so much money to see extended cuts/deleted scenes of both part 1 and 2, even though Denis V isn’t super for extended cuts
It's not about the Harkonnens "coming out clean" it's about using the secret as political leverage to to make a deal with the Emperor. Also, I think the visual design of House Corrino is meant to focus on open air and greenery. It's the most temperate looking place we've seen. Caladan had plenty of water and green, but it also seemed drizzly and cold, the other two places we've seen are obvious in their drawbacks.
There's also the whole "old money style" when it comes to wealth and privilege - people with real generational wealth are usually not ostentatious, preferring a form of elegance that can sometimes mask extremely advanced craftsmanship and cultivation.
Plus, they filmed those scenes in a tomb in Italy. It's an actual building. So cool.
Ah, that might make more sense. My impression was that, since Paul mentiones the Atreides and Harkonnen having fought for centuries, that conflict between the non-imperial great houses is fair play, but the Emperor showing favouritism (by lending his own forces to upset any natural balance) would be seen as dishonourable. As far as I understood it, the whole point of the great houses is that they as a collective are a check against imperial abuse, this balance is upset when the Imperial forces aid a speicifc great house against another.
@@Nikolaj11 There's a little of that, sure, it's no secret the houses don't like each other, but with no witnesses or recordings of what happened the Harkonnens and the Emperor could just claim the Fremen wiped out the Atreides or whatever story they wanted and have neither of them look bad.
@@WiqidBritt Oh yeah, for sure, but my though was more in regards to if the Harkonnens were to reveal the truth, the Emperor might look worse and the houses might not think Harkonnens guilty of a crime.
One of the best freaking movie I've ever watched.
Edit: GODDAMN I still get chills throughout the end. The facial expressions from everyone is incredible and Timothee's performance is just chef's kiss.
Instant sub. Honest, humorous, and intellectual. Looking forward to the future of your channel!
1:04:00 iam loving this scene... he turns the curiosity in the room into hate, hate into fear and fear into hope in just 2 minutes! awesome!
I never thought we'd get a sci-fi movie of this calibre in this time. I'm so glad its had such a great impact on everyone and it gives me hope for the future of sci-fi movies in general.
Masterpiece‼️
Thank you for your reaction, I was waiting in anticipation for your reaction and as always didn’t disappoint!
I’m still speechless on both Dune movies, I’ll be thinking of these gorgeously made movies for years to come! Wow! 💛
I usually don’t care for overtalk watching reaction videos but your commentary is very insightful and adds value.
One detail that I adore, but see barely anyone pick up on (at least on first watch, cause it took me a second watch to figure out and a third one to make sure it's deliberate),
is that Chani's tear was completely irrelevant to resurrecting Paul.
As in the novel, Paul had already survived the Water of life, but got trapped inside his own mind, so at that point what's needed is just to give him another drop of the water of life for his body to sense it from the outside and him snapping back into reality.
This is why when Jessica then wants Chani to resurrect him, Chani realizes that Jessica is basically just dragging it out purely so that "some stupid prophecy" about "Sihaya aka desert spring" can be woven into the moment to enhance the religious impact on the Fremen.
So understandably, Chani instead of resurrecting Paul justifiably sets her concern aside and gets pissed at Jessica ("do it yourself") until Jessica literally forces her to participate in the mythmaking.
It's freaking genius.
Lead them to paradise breaks me everytime, goosebumps and tears knowing what those words cause. These two movies are just such a masterclass of filmaking and story telling
I’m also in agreement that Christopher Walken as the emperor left something to be desired. I don’t think he gave a bad performance or even that his face is too recognizable, honestly I think his voice is too distinct and that when you hear him talk the first thing that comes to mind is “more cowbell”
I wish they would have explored Kaitain a little more and we could have got a look at the golden lion throne.
The scene after Paul's resurrection is, IMO, already one of the greatest scenes in cinematic history. The creeping sense that Paul's power has suddenly lurched into a very dark place; the way he embraces how terrifying and alien he is to his followers - 'I am the one your mothers warned you about'. He is exulting in how utterly petrifying he must seem to the people in the cave - he is no longer some kind of Jesus figure with whom they can communicate on a human level; he is now something alien, frightening, unpredictable, that they must simply fear and obey. He can look inside their heads! Imagine a god who can look inside your head... You'd better believe in him as hard as you can, right? Otherwise he'll know, and who can say what he'll do to you?
It is one of the most startling transformations by any actor. The twinkling eyed, soft, determined young man is replaced by a kind of supernatural demon, with a voice that can shatter buildings.
This film has the feel of a film that will be spoken of in the same breath as all-time greats in ten, twenty years' time, if it isn't already being spoken of in such a way. Villeneuve hasn't done anything half as good as either Dune film IMO. It feels like he was born to film this story. And I think part of the reason it's so great is that he's been able to see the other adaptations and learn from their mistakes. Lynch's version showed him what did and didn't work, what not to do, what kind of scale was appropriate, what to include and not to include. Ditto the noughties version. It's like Michael Mann remaking LA Takedown as Heat - he learned from the earlier version and made something almost perfect, and Villeneuve has done the same.
Paul and Jessica were both utterly terrifying after drinking the Water of Life. I felt nothing but dread and unease during the climax of the film…on one hand, it’s exhilarating to see Paul get revenge on the Emperor and the Harkonnens, but you also have a pit in your stomach due to his radical change in personality. You just know it’s not going to end well even if you haven’t read the books.
@@keefriff99 Paul and Jessica were both terrifying, yes. Jessica's face after she comes back from the other side - 'the beauty and the horror'.
I've not read the books, but I know people who have and I get the general shape of Paul's arc. Isn't it strange that you can watch a film, knowing exactly what's going to happen to the main character...yet still hope and desire for a different outcome? What's going on there in us when we rewatch a film we've seen hundreds of times and still find ourselves believing things can turn out differently? Some kind of confusion about free will clearly. We know the characters in the film have no free will but we still believe they can do differently each time.
Now imagine being Paul, and being able to see someone's life stretched out like you or I can watch the story of Walter White. He can see they have no free-will, like we can see Walter White has none either.
This is such a treat. I love his Star Wars channel- his expertise of even the most obscure lore really elevates whatever he's reacting to/commenting on. When I saw that he graced the internet with a DUNE PART 2 reaction and seeing that he was bringing that same energy in the intro, I knew we were all in for a treat. This is *EXQUISITE* content.
In the book Paul sees one possible future in which he meets the baron and says "Hello grandfather". Villeneuve use it.
Did the math for the water. Turns out it's just shy of 10mil Fremen give or take.
I’m a 65 year old sci-fi fan who also read all of the Dune books. I was disappointed with the Lynch version and was a gigantic fan of the Sci-fi mini-series “Dune” and “Children of Dune” for the exact same reasons as you. Most of my peers had never read the books and preferred the Lynch movie, above attempts to explain which was ridiculous on my part. I was afraid of what was to come of the Villenueve release. Villenueve and every single aspect of the new Dune movies have completely blown me away. The heart of the Dune books remains alive and strong despite them being less faithful to the details in the book. How he was able to achieve that is truly remarkable! To put it into perspective, I have probably watched “Children of Dune” fifty times over the years and its predecessor i’ve only been able to watch it on TH-cam. Your reaction and analysis has made me a subscriber to your channel.
A strong Emperor in his twilight years. Vitality lost, harried by the Landsraat, forced by his own survival instincts to slay his surrogate son to retain power, left with his only royal daughter who could not inherit the throne, relying on the toxic cancer of the Harkonnen to do his dirty work... I think Walken played the Emperor masterfully.
I love how Jamis isn’t just a guy Paul killed. I also love that the water from Freman is to help return Arrakis to paradise
I've watched so many reactions to this film... yours is by far my favorite. So insightful and well spoken.
Ever since seeing her as Rose the Hat, Rebecca Ferguson has scared the hell out of me. And *then* I realized I’d seen her before in a Mission: Impossible movie. I don’t quite understand how someone so mind-bogglingly stunning can also be a chameleon. Oh yeah… talent.
Meanwhile, her portrayal of Jessica in the second movie out-Roses Rose. I mean, if you ever need to cast an utterly terrifying female lead, and you also want her to be drop-dead gorgeous, Rebecca’s your girl. And I have no idea, but I’ll bet she’s a sweetheart in person.
This was an awesome reaction to a masterpiece of a movie and I thank you for choosing to let us watch along while you experience it for the first time my dude!
Cause I mean like seriously tho…even with a big screen to watch on…it can’t even begin to compare it to the intended mind blowing I-Max experience! So thanks for kinda sorta taking a little L by sharing with us my dude!😉👍😅
Dont worry I've seen it twice on IMAX since this reaction!!
1:10:30 in the board game (recommend play it one day, original version andn ot the movie version) the wall blocks off the sandstorm that goes around the planet. there is a card where if you deploy your troops at a certain moment in the game rounds you can play that card to blow up the wall. so troops within the safe zones are no longer safe and get killed if hit by the sandstorm and it limits ppl (unless your fremen faction) movement in that area if storm is passing by.
I love how Gurney has an Atreidies spice harvester, a Sardukar helmet, a Fremen still suit, and Harkonnen suspensor tech.
this was a great reaction. Some really sharp insights that I haven't seen in other reactions. Like Gurney wearing a recycled Sardaukar helmet. A reaction worthy of such an amazing film. Great stuff. Blessings from Australia.
I kept getting "Life of Brian" flashbacks when Paul was talking about how the Bene-Gesserit planned this.
as is written
Stilgar: Only the true Messiah denies his Divinity
Paul: Well, what story of chance does that give me!?
Stilgar: Only the true Messiah denies his Divinity
Paul: Well, what sort of chance does that give me!?
In the novel the fremen would never leave tracks on the sand they had the last guy hiding tracks they didnt show it in the movie.
45:50 Every Great House can fight against another Great House. Only Emperor must be neutral.
Maybe for Feyd Rautha’s character we avoid describing the actors’ performances by using the phrase “he killed it” 😂
Every time I watched this film and every time I watched reactions I love it more and more. Modern classic. Already in my top 5 movies ever.
"Call off what?"...he wasn't ready LOL
I think the "flames" coming off of the Emperor's ship is its shield getting de-polarized from all the static electricity in the air due to the Grandmother storm that's coming. That's why Paul timed his attack with the storm because it will fuck up their shields.
Great reaction! It was fun watching someone with knowledge of the books and lore be able to speak intelligently on the film while watching it.
Just caught the meaning when Paul kills the Barron.
- Stab to the neck (like the needle of the Gom Jabbar)
- "You die like an animal." (the reason for the Gom Jabbar test)
I swear, the pool of water that is this story just gets deeper the more you look into it.
41:59 And THAT is how you introduce a villain!
Finally, someone else who not only remembers the Sci-Fi Channel _Dune_ miniseries, but likes it.
1:09:30 I think that the flare in the ship is the shield being hit by the storm
On top of it just being a flat-out _incredible_ film, it's especially enjoyable seeing you respond to things as a really long-time fan of the story & universe.
Great rection! If it ever releases on IMAX or Dolby again you should try to experience it that way too
16,190,476 is the amount you are looking for. There are 42 liters of water in the average human body.
Thanks for doing the math!
and thats just ONE Seches well... there are 1000's of Seches
And there are thousands of such caches...
Even if the average is only 10 million people per "well", and even if there's only 5,000 "wells" on the planet, that's a hell of a lot of people's water.
@@DoremiFasolatido1979 Ok so taking this further lets say by your math its 50 billion people. They said there were "millions of fremen" so lets be conservative and say 10 million. That would mean 5000 generations of every single fremen born would have to be in the well. If we assume the average generation length is the same as earth, 27 years, that would mean the fremen have waited for 135,000 years??? If you assume its closer to 3 million fremen then its ~500,000 years 🤯 and dune is set in like ~10,000 right?
Oh well I guess somethings arent meant to be taken this seriously
@@agentseptember7185 Correct. But, presumably, part of that water is also from other "pure" sources. Water from nature itself, also sacred enough to be united with the souls of the dead.
That's my take, anyway. Otherwise...yeah, it gets absurd pretty quickly.
This is the best Dune reaction I’ve seen.
Your reactions are always so good. Thank you as always. I died at the cowbell reference 😂
I'm not entirely sure, but I think that, during that scene in Sietch Tabr, we actually hear Alia talk to Jessica - it's her who suggests targeting the weak ones. Someone else also suggested that she may be possessing Jessica.
My man I appreciate you waiting to see it so we get to see you react, but as soon as you are done with this go to the theater and see it there. I have seen it in the theater four times, on my 80 inch TV a few times, on my 32 inch TV a few times, and on my iPad Pro a few times. Nothing compares to the movies theater. Many of the scenes look a little less real on TV's as opposed to in the theater. One scene that comes to mind is when Rabban is fighting the fremen on the ramp of his Ornithopter. That scene is stunning in the theater. On a TV is looks a little fake. Anyway, it was a great reaction as always. I was excited to see what you would think, since you and your buddy are such massive Star Wars fans, you must be Dune fans too. Your my go to reactors on Star Wars and most stuff like it.
I watched it in IMAX twice since this reaction! Mind BLOWINGLY GOOD
After the last two tries, I really was skeptical that they would ever be able to adapt this novel to a movie. Denis did it.
“This one’s for you Leto” is how I felt most of this movie , especially when gurney let lose the atomics , also love u grizzled Kyle
13:05 I did the math. The average human body contains ~0.6 liters of water. 38 million dekaliters divided by 0.6liters equals about 633,000,000 people. And that's *just* in Siech Tabr.
“This could have been avoided!” Your earnest way of delivering this truth is very lovable.
The “Lisan Al Gaib” Stilgar says after the duel with Feyd-Rautha almost feels like he forgot his line and someone had to nudge him
finally!!! was so excited to see you watch this one
Loved to see a reaction by a fellow dune enthusiast! Loved the Dune Mini-series, Quinn’s Ideas has some of the best Dune lore if anyone needs a place to go
54:10 when we watched this scene my friend went ‘damn that woman is enormous’
Best Sci-Fi film I've ever seen
Holy shit a reaction from someone who knows the lore. Really enjoyed the watchalong.
46:12 "I sense some Bene Gesserit fuckery... literally" HAHAHAHA XD
And yes, you are right, so many people in their reaction point out to Margot Fenring using the Voice on Feyd, but I agree with you that she doesn't need to do it at all - and I never got the impression that she does. She simply knows his levers.
The baron made perfect sense. Many of the houses have fought against each other for thousands of years. The movie also told you that Spice is why vast space can be ruled. Who ran Arrakis and was sole spice merchant? House Harkonnen.
It's true. In the adaptations, Stilgar is to Dune as Gimli is to Lord of the Rings. They've been made a bit into comic relief, but I'm okay with this.
You say Stilgar is the comic relief.
But he is arguably the most tragic character of the movie.
That’s a good comparison. I understand why Jackson made the decision to designate Gimli as the “comic relief”…it’s filmmaking 101, but at the same time, he went overboard.
Yes, Gimli is absolutely portrayed as a formidable warrior, but turning to him EVERY time for levity (usually by making him the butt of the joke) got annoying after a while and reduced his dignity.
And don’t get me started on “Legolas the Infallible”…
As far as Stilgar… he does fulfill the role of comic relief at times, but it wasn’t nearly as overdone as Gimli was.
What others are saying is comedy I see as purely tragic. Seeing such a strong wise, dignified man in the first film be reduced to a small minded religious zealot because of that manipulative prophecy is beyond sad.
13:10 To your question: The average adult body holds about 40 Litres of Water (including intracellular Water). To fill the pool would take at least 9,5 million Bodies - if they are able to extract every last drop of water. Otherwise we could be talking about any number between 10 and 75 million.
01:02:15 - Tetsuo in the house. Given that Chani's character, who was a more passive and accepting follower in the novel to someone who resisted and questioned Paul's shift into the KH position of this adaptation, I wonder what changes you might predict for the third film. Is it going to go down the same way as in the book, or will there be kind of a reversal of fates for Usul and Sihaya?
I really enjoy Reaction Videos! I have seen several on Dune 2 and yours was by far the best! Your knowledge of the Dune Saga enhanced the experience! Thank you!
1:19:27 yeah but the princess seemed quite impressed and charmed by Paul (from the first moment she ever heard of him.. and now even more). 😆
1:20:28 polygamy is the solution 😅
I’ve now seen Dune: Part Two multiple times; 3 times in 70mm 15perf IMAX & 5 times on UHD blu ray….& it just keeps getting better. Words can’t even begin to describe just how stunning it was in IMAX.
Even as a long time fan of the novel; which I first read back in the 80s, every aspect of this film is beyond what I expected.
The eclipse looks so good at the start, because they actually managed to film a really eclipse; & then enhanced it with the second moon.
Regarding the volume of water in Seitch Tabir (& correct me if my maths is wrong).
A 70kg human holds approximately 42 litres of water.
42 litres = 42’000 millilitres
1 decilitre = 100 millilitres
Therefore 38 million decilitre would equal water from approximately 9.5 million people
Villeneuve’s adaptation of Dune: Messiah is going to be something very special & we’re going to have one of the; if not the finest trilogy ever!!
Yepp, simply a spot on reaction. This was me the entire movie ( 32:19 ) Would have been fun to see Count Hasimir Fenring. But alas, it is a movie and they have to cut out a lot. I thought the flames on the emperors ship was sand and wind interacting with shields. Again, such a good reaction!
01:25:20 I'm the opposite - this is exactly what I expected. Gurney is one of the Atreides' greatest fighters. Rabban is a cruel, clumsy coward who's only tough against his subordinates or when he has superior numbers on his side. Of course Gurney would make quick work of him.