HANDS ON with the Fanatec CSL DD - Detailed First Look & Driving Tests
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Today we're very excited to be sharing with you our first detailed hands on look at the Fanatec CSL DD! There has been a massive amount of hype surrounding this product, and thanks to your support we have been selected to be one of the first to put it to the test and share our opinions.
The aim today is to use this pre-production sample answer as many questions as we comfortably can, and arm you with as clear a picture as possible prior to reviewing the final production version.
We’ll be taking a look at the experience with the standard 5NM rated power supply, as well as the upgraded Boost Kit 180 which unlocks the CSL DD’s full potential of 8NM. We’ll take a look at the driving experience when mounted on the same high end cockpit we use for all our other wheel base reviews, as well as some cheaper mounting options, along with the optional Table Clamp Accessory to determine if the CSL DD is worth it for those not ready to step up to a more expensive cockpit, and of course compare the driving experience based on our personal experience to that of some other common wheel bases including Fanatec’s CSL Elite, ClubSport WheelBase 2.5 and of course the Podium DD1 and DD2, as well as some other relevant wheelbases from other brands.
We’ll also spend some time explaining some of the terms you’ve no doubt heard being referenced such as Direct Drive, Fidelity and Dynamic Range. By the end of this article, our hope is you’ll have a clearer picture of whether or not the CSL DD is right for you!
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0:00 - Intro & Pre-Production Info
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Let's hope this will be amazing and the simmarket will get it's much needed competition and innovation.
Exactly...I feel that this will give some really good drivers but with bad sim setups that much needed boost
I think it's been a market with huge marigins, seems like maybe they have invested some of that back
@@henrik1743 Here's to dreaming people do the right thing
@@henrik1743 would have been pretty low volume manufacturing in the past too, but with the jump in interest for sim racing in the last few years, they might just be jumping on that trend targeting lower cost higher volume products. Should be a good thing all round!
1 hour and 22 minutes? Am I gonna spend one and a half hour of my life for this? Yes! Yes, I freaking will!
Funny. Higher end sim gear becoming more affordable and yet, the graphics card I need to run these sims at high end graphics have become more expensive than entire PC's.
You can probably get away with much cheaper options and turn one or two settings down lower or off. The biggest bulk of graphics rendering are easily punched out by most low to mid range grahpic cards nowadays, and have been for a long time. It's those little things to "max out" that really cost. As always, the rule of diminishing returns applies.
@@benvella1728 I'm working with a 1660 ti on a laptop so I'm REALLY looking to upgrade asap. It's not a bad machine, it's just not what I want right now. Noise, temps, thermal throttling, games looking better on console, etc. It's to the point where I'm thinking about just moving over to console. I won't have iRacing, but at least the AC games are available. But I really hate to go over to console as my main simracing rig.
ACC on console is far from great. Hopefully they are actually working on a proper next gen version and not another downgrade port
Mining is set to stop being profitable so GPUs should become available soon.
fk miners..... fk miners...
If the final production model feels similar to this pre-production model out of the box I'd really appreciate a video showing how to get it feeling nice and smooth as I'm new to both Fanatec and DD wheelbases.
Absolutely will do!
That's the only thing giving me cold feet personally. If production means this will be hit or miss with what is available it'd be a serious bummer. If their production line can churn out high quality pieces they've absolutely acquired a new customer.
@@benvella1728 and that the customer support is on par as well
@@boostedmedia what were the default settings out of the box? Was it grainy because natural damper, friction and inertia were turned off completely? I am worried because i plan to use mine without those settings when it arrives.
Best format so far with both of you giving driving impressions and the observations/FAQ.
I’ve been watching all the wheel base review videos you’ve made over the past week in preparation for this video 😁 now it’s finally time !
Never thought I would get a DD but I think this is my ticket 😍😁
Me too
This ain’t like your typical DD lol
@@austinbasiolli2705 But its close
@@austinbasiolli2705 Eh....ok? Define ”typical DD”. I’m guessing based on your comment you define a typical DD based on a certain torque threshold. Sorry, but DD and torque are not in any way related.
@@austinbasiolli2705 What do you mean not your typical DD?
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Reggie M here from the FaceBook Sim Page. Another great (very detailed) video and glad you were able to get it out in time despite getting it 9 days after the other two. Just placed my order and looking forward to it.
Still watching but incredible video quality, loving the discussion at the end.
I like that u took the responcibility to give feedback and observations about durability. Many future owners should be thankful for their long living wheelbases but they don't know to whom.
As always professionally presented content full of detail. Very exciting times with companies like Fanatec making Sim racing kit more accessible to the wider community..Great initial thoughts, looking forward to the full review.
Far out this is a great video. Just so much more detail than anyone could ever expect, I feel like I could buy one of these tomorrow and have no questions left!
Ooooh! The inclusion of the t-slot rails is a QoL feature I didn't anticipate. Fanatec's engineers are really on it! Great review Will!
Looks like I'm getting this for Christmas 2021. I'm not a hardcore sim racer but I still enjoy sim racing occasionally and this price is just right. DD1 and other direct drives are way too expensive to justify playing occasionally.
Did ya end up getting it... Curious how u liking it
I agree with the other guy, how is it?
@@HyperFlie I wound up buying the Logitech dd instead. lol.
I’m gonna get the csl dd this year also how is the Logitech dd
@@TJBPlayz Logitech is awesome. Buttery smooth and strong enough for most sim racers. Only cons is there's only 1 wheel so far.
Woooooo! Yeaaaah baby! This is what I've been waiting for!
It's the second time I see Tom in a review. You are really good expressing your impressions! Really helps to decide whether I'll like the product or not, so big thanks 👌
Your technical knowledge of the entire chain of the product all the way from motor design through electronics, firmware, as well as car and racing knowledge, really elevates these kinds of videos from you. It's *super* informative, and so valuable for the viewers! Thanks, Will!
Thanks very much for the support Christoffer! That means a lot :)
Well deserved Will! Thank you for the review.
Must be so cool to get your hands on with all this gear and hit the track testing them all.
Thanks for the honest comparison to the 2.5. I've been running one for 12 months and I've been more than happy with it coming from a T300. Great review lads.
do you remember about what part he compares them? thanks
Thank you for this very complete and sincere review, just as I love for doing the right decision 👍🏻
Just placed my order along with a McLaren GT3 V2 wheel, thanks Will and Tom! This was a great preview, certainly one of the most complete preview videos I have seen on a sim gear. Can't wait.
You guys are great! The banter and discussion back and forth during the Q&A was fantastic and very thorough. Nice job! 👍🏁
Thanks so much for the review Will, and especially the 'Heads Up' when the pre-order went live today. I was able to get mine pre-ordered.
Ok, I think time has come. Thank you g27 for all these great years, you served me well.
Thanx for the total review of this wheel base.I also have much respect for you two gentlemen as when you two have a difference of opinion you both do so with respect for each other.
Yes please in the DD1 “fundamentals”/“tuning” course.
well made review!! You can tell the amount of effort and knowledge put into it.
Quality choice in DnB music as always. I never get tired of saying it. Massive review, thanks! I feel much better about my recent DD1 purchase, although I had similar thoughts as you initially did about the CSL DD.
I have been following your channel from the early start, unbelieveable how far you came in such a short time. You and the Sim Racing Garage are the goto channels for indepth sim racing equipment reviews. You helped me a lot with your explanations, reviews and other vids!
Thanks for a good review guys! Absolutely love seeing you both working together on the channel 🤘
Your reviews and the way and level of explanation are really amazing! Great video, THANK YOU!!
Thanks for both of your reviews on the DD, I've now ordered a CSL DD with the boost kit, ,and McLaren GT3 rim, looking forward to getting it!
Appreciate the detailed review, i impulse ordered mine when it went up to upgrade from my csl elite and hearing your thoughts on the comparison just solidified my decision lol. Bravo
Well done! Really appreciate the videos you guys put out and the work you put into them.
Thank you for the immensely comprehensive review, maybe the best I found so far online. I ordered mine yesterday with the boost kit and a WRC wheel following your wheel comparison review. You've helped me really well, thanks for that.
Can't wait for the unit to arrive in September!
One small comment though, you mentioned multiple times that the boost kit gives a 40% increased dynamic range, but from 5Nm to 8Nm is a 60% increase even.
Thanks because the first video in which speaks about the mounting on a wheel stand. I'm happy to see that you can update a CSL elite without drilling your stand plate...
This is one of the best early looks i have ever watched
Very detailed review, thank you!
Thanks for the review, answered all my questions.
Thanks for the dd1 vs DD CSL comparison. Would love a dd1 settings fundamentals course! Really overwhelming, looking forward to getting more out of my dd1!
Thank you Will and Tom! I've been schooled! I feel so much more knowledgeable because of your coverage in all regards! I am still on the fence; however, Fanatec has given me time to completely evaluate this purchase due to the fact that I am not an existing customer and placed on the last order priority. I am looking forward to your post-production DD analysis.
Thanks for making this vid, just ordered mine.
Thank you for this review Will.
I'll have to wait for a PS licensed version since I need PS5 and PC compatibility but, I'm glad you're giving us the thumbs up.
Coming from a G29.
It's been two years, my friend. Did you ever end up getting gt dd pro that came out?
Nice overview Will - can’’t wait to try one myself.
Thanks for the video! I ordered my and received my V2.5 literally days before this was announced. Not complaining too much because it's still worlds better than my old G920 but you still have to love it.
Amazing review!. The fundamental course video would be amazing, since the CSL DD will be my new wheelbase.
Thanks for the excellent video guys! Thorough as ever🍻
Great Video. Great Info pretty much answered every question i had.
Great stuff!! Thx!! I’m getting a Next Level Racing F-GT Lite for Father’s Day so I was really happy to see that it can handle CSL DD. Great and useful info!!
Thanks guys
Will be using your links to pre order.
FANTASTIC Video!!! Thank you so much
Amazing video!!! Well done! I want one of these so bad. I'm sure its a big step up from my Thrustmaster TX.
This is going to be perfect next to my DD2 for my kids to play on!!! Been waiting a long time for a DD in the range my wife won't kill me buying for the kids!
Did you hear about the Janitor who went racing? His car went Broom Broom
Day made!
@@boostedmedia my day was made when I watched one of my favourite youtubers then seen 2 of my other favourites at the top of his comment section, You and Gear Seekers on Jays video
How dare you +1
Awesome video once again brother 👍. As much detail as possible, this is why I watch Boosted Media. You guys ROCK 🤘. Thanks Will & Tom enormously. This is my question guys, how many of you are going for the 180 boost kit over the standard 90? 🤔
Forever Racing 🏁
gonna be upgrading to this from my csw v2.5, great review guys
Awesome review brother! You are setting the standard for Sim reviews 👍
Great initial review guys. 👍
Great video, I think my decision to preorder the CSL DD Boosted is no failure. Thank you, guys
Great review lads.
fantastic and very detailed review, thank you very much. been thinking about this one, since the trailer. probably going to upgrade my csl elite wheel to this one with the McLaren Wheel, so the exact setup you did the test :)
Exciting stuff, thanks guys!
Great review as always. Products like this that up the competition is always good for us the consumers. I have a DD1 but I wouldn't downgrade to this even though I run it half torque. I always like the room for expansion if needed
Great video guys! Thanks.
As someone whose last wheel was a Logitech G25, and last used it about Ten years ago, I'd say you've pretty much convinced me to get one of these when they eventually make them available to the general public.
Thank you for this amazing detailed review - I've been looking forward to this all week. I was also worried about whether it was overhyped but I am now confident about my choice to upgrade to this from my Logitech G920. Hopefully they'll also release a new rally wheel soon too!
Ima see the video right now. I hope the csl dd is good !
I get discouraged seeing the length of Boosted Media videos before watching but Will had SO MUCH useful information that I end up not minding.
Being a subscriber, I know that Will likes using extreme high force and FFB compared to Joe average (7-8Nm). So keep that in mind and consider not waiting for another Fanatec offering between CSL DD and DD1!
Excellent review and video!
Finally recieved it couple weeks ago still spending time adjusting and getting used to the new setup. But first impression is very positive. I've been using the CSW 1.5 for years. While V2.5 and CSL Elite were very tempting I'm glad I held off for this. There really is a distinctive difference between a DD and a gear/belt driven.
Pre ordered one, thanks Will!
great review guys, very informative. I think i will go for something bigger but still not sure which base.
Very detailed review for an initial look, really great job guys. Thanks.
I would say that with extra dynamic range/maximum torque output some people don't need it to be competitive. However for other people it doesn't just add extra immersion but does improve laptimes and/or consistency. Some people need their sim to feel somewhat like real life which is not possible with lower torque wheels. Whether because they have real life driving/racing experience and can't adapt to the different feel of low force or some other reason I'm unsure.
Well said.. I personally feel like the belt driven G29’s and such are absolutely atrocious. So a step up from there is monumental. This is a downgrade for these guys no matter they review it.
Great video. I run a MIGE OSW and I love it but I will be recommending this to at least one friend. 2 things I never expected to hear thought in a DD Review: Vegemite Sandwich and DD table clamp.
Super Video!! like allways.... ciao From Lugano Switzerland!!
Thanks Warren :)
Awesome video guys! Thanks a lot!
Really needed that comparison to the Clubsport 2.5 - waiting for the CSW DD, think that makes sense. Thanks for your insights, lads!
Me too only had mine since January and love it, a CSW DD would be the bomb.
What’s the time stamp for the CSW 2.5 vs CSL DD comparison?
@@ryanroff6330 about 10 min before end? During conclusion
SOLID review. Very happy to see that you were able to get hands on one! I have been patiently waiting for a review of this as I want to jump into my first DD and the price point for a newer SIM racer has been previously prohibitive until this new product. Hoping the pedal set gets the same positive review, as well I am eager to see what wheels are offered.. a more affordable BMW GT3 wheel would be REALLY nice...5k for the new BMW wheel is insane... almost same price as my real WRX rallycross car.. lol
Great review! As the owner of a Logitech G29 and Next Level GT-Lite cockpit, your comments regarding the power unit were very useful! I will definitely be getting the CSL DD with the regular 5nm power unit, and upgrade to the 8nm one whenever I get a sturdier cockpit. BTW, liked and subscribed! Thanks!!
That thing you drive in is incredible
Yay! Wanted to watch what was up with this one!
Will, we didn’t have Barry reviewing this time until Fanatec have the ‘final version’. You did carry the torch this time, all respect to Chris and James for their review. Very nice review, as always. Thanks
But there is a third base sent to someone. Who?
Lol will is such a nice guy! Every video he thanks us for supporting im like wait when did i hear him telling thank y’all and then im like oh yeah last video😂 will keep going goat
awesome! buying IMMEDIATELY
I’m so excited wooooo
I just pulled the trigger on a csl dd with the mclaren gt3 v2 im so excited to start racing with it
Tom was a great addition to this channel
Dont think its enough for me to upgrade from my 2.5 which i love. Ill wait to see if they came out with another / better base. or ill get a dd1 in time. Thanks Will and Tom great job guys !
Awesome review! Im sold. Coming from a half dead logitech DFGT, I dont think the 5nm is going to make me loose sleep.
Cool! EVERYTHING I needed to know about the new DD!
Gonna go with "standard" first and will upgrade to boosted power once my wallet has recovered again!
Thanks guys! 👍
Was looking to spend 1k on my first rig and didnt think a DD was possible glad I held off plan to go ahead and jump both feet in with this new product.
I’ve been waiting for this one 😂
Great vid.. content quality sure makes it worthwhile. Just wonder if it's worth holding out for the DD-powered kart vid? Or did I miss it?
Purchased the CSL Elite LC pedals a couple of weeks ago ... but the second the CSL DD comes out I'm definately upgrading my g29 .. only need to decide on the Fanatec McLaren GT3 V2 vs Formula V2 conundrum , I REALLY enjoy those revlights .. :)
I didn't knew the power of the G29 (~2.1nm from what I've seen) and I was worried about the power of the base version CSL DD but now that I know it's more than twice as powerful as my current wheel I went from cautiously excited to very, very excited and I have no doubt that I'll will upgrade to this as soon as I can.
there's a booster kit that adds another 3 nm to the dd aswell which i like you can get the dd and then upgrade it more if you need to
Ordered this with the csl pedals, 80/20 upgrade for my next level challenge, and the newer metals shifter from aliexpress that’s getting good reviews. Coming from a g29 should be nice
The connector looks like a standard 4pin molex connector. voltage/current is the same as the CSL elite adapter, so maybe you can mod the csl elite adapter to power it.
Do you believe in fairy tails? Me neither.
Are you willing to risk that on a $400 piece of equipment?
I would not thrust a company so sloppy that would give away 8Nm for free 😁.
Seriously, Fanatic is taking advantage of the moment and pull in as many as they can in the ecosystem. The low every point is symptom.
I will pay €500 for a Thrustmaster 12Nm base.
@@jopereirapt which thrustmaster pulls 13nm? Thr new tgt is 8 I think
@@youngstadan4999 None! So, I won't be buying a base anytime soon.
I guess people get obsessed with torque, the more the better mindset. The market, including Yters, make us think that way.
So cool that u have this
Coming from a Fanatec CSR, 5nm will be a step up in detail and power. Good to know. I have to go 5nm initially. I'll get the BK180 later. Life got in the way.
And while hovering over the option to add the BK180, my index finger twitched. Long story short, I have the BK180 on the way. :)