If Xbox made a Retro Handheld [Logitech G Cloud]
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Logitech, yes the mouse company, just released an Android Gaming device specifically for Cloud Gaming. BUT it turns out to be a great Emulation machine, for a price...
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I’m not looking to buy this or most of what Bob reviews at all, but I always find myself watching his stuff because I find his videos to be very soothing
Right?! I haven't touched my switch in months but I watch all of Bob's videos
Bob's got a great entertainer personality and his podcasts are integral to my weekly rotation, so I'm mostly here to support him
Same. I have no interest in getting a retro handheld device and yet I watch every one of his videos about them. Lol
I'm looking to buy this or most of what Bob reviews but I always find myself broke
It's his snarky sarcasm that gets me to watch all his videos, even for stuff like this that I think are stupid.
I suppose you could say the D-Pad is a big plus.
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I actually laughed out loud at that. Thank you.
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I'm hoping that it sells well enough to make Logitech make a handheld Windows device about the same price range that can run and install Gamepass game natively.
There are devices out there, but they all either very new to the game, impossable to get shipped, or they use dirt cheap tech and charge as much as a low end Steam deck.
A native device with the backing of a company like Logitech would be an instant hit.
I love the attention to detail! 2:59
That calendar was really packed. The 30 minute bathroom time is the most relatable though!
Not for that price, but this device could be for me: I hate playing on PC (I'll do it, but uncomfortably), love my Switch but not my joycons; and really love the cloud route of the game pass. Being able to play those games, like dishonored which I'm playing now, but portably would be really nice, even if it is just inside the house. Maybe... 150. 200 tops.
Great video I hate the device but according to eta prime in the settings menu you switch to tablet mode and the touch controls work etc
$200 I think is where this should be, and even then, against the switch lite it's a hard sell
Considering, that switch has expensive games, zero emulators and no cloud gaming, I don't think they are comparable at all, but I agree that even at 200€ it's a hard sell, when devices like the odin lite, Loki mini or even a retroid pocket exist.
Even my 200€ phone is way more powerful (sd 860) and I got a kishi controller and a powerbank.
@@biglevian sure, switch has expensive games..but to be fair, it has inexpensive games as well...there's free to play, indie, retro (emulated), discounted, used games etc... And as far as emulation, there's hundreds of emulated titles on the eShop+switch online. And there's even some (unfortunate) cloud titles...lol.
But I get what ur saying, walled garden n whatnot
I like that the Logitech ui has more character than the switch has after 5+ years of updates
If only it was 150 dollars and black
i prefer white consoles over black consoles
I thought it was strictly streaming, but still too expensive for what it is.
Anyone interested in this, I'd recommend looking into Ayn's Odin line. Or maybe GPD, but I'm not sure what they're charging for their newer redesign. But my Odin does everything this device purports to, without trying to style itself around streaming. Which it does just fine! I've streamed Game Pass and Luna, GFN, Stadia (RIP lol) and PS Plus via Shadow...which might sound weird to double stream, but I played a bunch of Bloodborne and Arkham Asylum that way. Emulators run up to that GameCube and certain PS2 level that this seems to.
Also, as mentioned in the vid, Steam Deck. Honestly it's not even that hard to get the streaming stuff working. Except for PS Plus, that took me like 20 minutes. But for Game Pass and GFN, it's more or less just setting the browser to your steam library, and there's a couple commands you have to get to make it recognize the controller with the browser and lock to the streaming service's launcher. But most guides have those posted, so it's just copy/paste. Shouldn't take more than a few minutes to get going.
Bro I seen so many people on TH-cam talk trash about this device. I just got it today. It’s not better than the steam deck but it’s a very good device
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This should be $199, honestly.
Honestly this device would've been a hit if not for the major price tag
It’s for people who want mobile gaming, don’t want to be locked down by Nintendo, but don’t want to tinker and finagle as much as you would have to for a steam deck. It’s also more portable than a steam deck. And I think that’s actually a pretty large segment of gamers. Basically anyone who buys the android portable emulators like the Odin. But you said it in the video, you can actually buy one. The only real flaw I see is that it’s priced too high. They would sell like crazy if they could get it under $300. Even just a flat $300 is borderline impulse buy. I want one, but I want to get it on sale for $280 during Black Friday
I would trust a company like Logitech to get the feel of the controller right, like putting a premium feeling product in my hand. There's a reason I've only bought Logitech mice and keyboards for the last decade. After the reviews of other products though, I think I'd rather go with a newer smaller company for a product like this. They make one thing and they do it REALLY well overall, as a package. My problem is that I really don't have the space for this kind of product in my life. I play time-wasting games on my phone in the small amounts of downtime that I have away from home..and when I'm home I'm on my gaming computer with a dedicated GPU and two displays. Not that I ever use it to play games anymore. There are many reasons but chief among them is I just don't have the time for much gaming these days.
We can see you changing the title from „what if microsoft made a hand-held” or something like that don’t think we can’t
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Kinda like what Bob said, I think I'll be better off just buying a Steam Deck.
But for some reason getting a Steam Deck makes me feel like I'm cheating myself out of finally getting a PC for myself.
Ah yes, the $350 competitor to the $100 Chromebook.
Hey now, that $100 chromebook or tablet needs a controller! Hehe
The G Cloud is such a ripoff at $350...
At $200 I could see this making sense, but with all the other competitors it doesn't make sense when they can do everything this can and more.
I'm just happy there's no back macro buttons man f****** up my grip
I just got it now on ebay for $240. Mostly for cloud streaming and emulators.
I want one but I don't $350 want one. I have an ayn odin and rp3. For me this could replace my odin from what I've seen from the emulation videos and it'd be more comfortable for around the house gaming.
sooo the thing is you can switch to the regular android navigation/homescreen
I think it would be for me at 250$. I want a big screen, don’t currently have anything that can play PS1, Sega Saturn/Dreamcast, or game cube games. I have a PS4 in the basement and 3 young kids. Sometimes I want to play Diablo without bringing attention to the blood and gore on the 86 inch tv. I have a new 3ds XL for all the older games. It’s just hard to justify it being more expensive than the PS4
Bob looks like a Jedi
When I was 11, I thought bob was Keanu reeves
I knew this guy once that worked in the back warehouse for Target and he had a bit of Tourette's and he would sometimes make these noises when we were working in the other other aisle that kinda sounded like michael jackson. But i guess that’s just the kinda person he was. Anyways, he eventually left the store and people would come in asking me about cameras with something like 3 megapixels and i would say sure, that’s plenty of megapixels, and before they left they would pickup a copy of Dude Where’s My Car or Shakespeare in Love or something like that. This console is for those people
Gpd Xd+ == better
Odin == better
XiaomiPad 4 == better
Iphone 8 == better
So yea not sure who this is for, pli believe another reviewer mentioned a partnership with Tencent so…maybe the Chinese market? But doubtful
I know I’m an extremely niche use case, but I use mine like I would use a TV for gaming except I don’t have a TV because I don’t live in my own (local streaming from my PC, not cloud gaming). It’s pretty nice for that (except I have some minor gripes that make me contemplate returning it because it’s $350 and there might be better options coming out)
Also OMG I ran into the same problem with the back button and dolphin. One of the things making me contemplate returning it. There’s just a lot of little software things that make it clear they just slapped this thing together without much thought.
I think there's plenty of us that would just use the G Cloud as a peripheral rather than a device. I'd have bought one around $200 just to local stream from my laptop whilst in bed or on the couch. Hopefully, cheaper options with 8" screens come soon but for now, I'll just macgyver a tablet/controller combo.
God I wish this wasn't overpriced
Very expensive for a cloud gaming handheld. I'm sure you could get a decent phone for the same price to play game pass stuff.
The emulation just seems awkward.
When I got to the ad I almost hit like for the second time for that "Ya hungry" bit LOL I mean double likes Bob, not cancelling my like
I have a $4.5k gaming rig and I still regularly stream with Nvidia GeForce Now, xcloud, and Stadia (RIP) on my surface and my phone.
Yeah I remember when retro handhelds used technology from 20 years in the future
Currently playing persona 5 on xcloud, it's a lot of fun
that issue where you have to unbind B to hit back on android os is a complete dealbreaker alone tbh
I want to have a use case for this because logitech's hardware and software is usually really good but there just aren't any
bruh, those cuticles. get it together
How does it not have an oled the Nintendo switch oled is only 350-360 and can play so many games and can hook up to your tv
I love it and I want it, but I also am blocked by the price.
I personally don’t want the bulk and complexity of the steam deck. I love how svelte this is, even with the big screen.
If you held a switch it’s just like that. No where near as bulky as a steam deck nor as heavy
Exactly. I don't need the steamdeck's horse power and I'd use it 99% of the time at home where I could just local stream off my laptop. I just want a budget 8" tablet and gamepad fused together. Such a device shouldn't cost more than $200.
I dunno. Tablets with that processor cost $300. So $200 sounds a bit optimistic.
It's not for me. But, the battery life on it is amazing, so if you're looking for something you can walk around the house with and stream from your local PC or something. I can see it. The problem still lies with there are other options for far more versatility
amazon is selling it for $299 right now and theyre offering a monthly payment plan
I am looking for something below $300 that will play GameCube and GameBoy games, along with PS and XBox GamePass games. Unless Valve releases a mini Steam Deck, I will wait for this to come down in price. I just got an XBox Series S 2 months ago and love it along with my Switch OLED.
With 350 USD I can buy the best joystick for my Android phone, and still have spare money to buy something else and have the same experience (considering that already using an Android Phone).
The Logitech console it's pretty cool looking, but too expensive for what it offers.
Hope the move goes well!
love your videos Bob!! I'll take all the emulation videos you can throw at me!
Yes I paused to read his entire schedule
I just want a switch lite sized device capable of at least up to Gamecube, that doesn't cost an absurd amount that also isn't a chinese emulation device as I have had some bad experiences with those types of devices in terms of hardware/software/customer service. Then I thought about those controller attachments for phones but many of them are shitty quality or the software doesn't play nice with various things. There is also like no long term reviews on those phone controllers to see how well they last before going dumb. This seems neat and is close to just what I need but like it has some pretty big cons for me software wise.
That’s good that is 350 dollars that’s how you know it more expensive Microsoft than the psvita
The Deck is too fiddly and PC-centric for my liking so jist use it as an emulator now. So I'd seriously consider replacing it with this, it looks great!
Id gladly take that cumbersome device off you. free of charge even
Interesting. Maybe I'll grab one when they're dirt cheap as retailers are trying to clear out dead inventory because nobody wants a $350 cloud gaming device.
6:16 - Because PlayStation, that's why. Sony's never ready with anything at launch anymore.
I just got my G-Cloud, $299 on Amazon. Bought it to remote play my Series x and PS5 games, and it does that quite well. I did not even know you could play Gamecube, and other games like 8 and 16bit. So how do I get those apps on my G-Cloud?
Look up Retro Game Corps android emulation guide
I really like this and want this to be better but even at 300 dollars seems like a lot. Like an xbox series s is 300 dollars and this thing is basically just another screen/controller to play xbox games on. If it was 200 or even 250 with a little more power than id have no problem buying this thing. I really hope they come out with another one that is more powerful but the price goes down or stays the same justifying the extra power
Honestly it looked cool on paper besides being a cloud ganing machine. Plus the price tag is a big yikes. I'm a bit disappointing because they could've made a pretty nice hand held console with cloud gaming being something you could do but not required. It could be nice for those who play Gensin and other mobile games if they don't want to use their phones
I trust Logitech, I'm still using my G15 keyboard that I got about 15 years ago (Because of the cool screen).
I see no point in buying this handheld though. Now if someone could make a Mister Handheld I would be interested in picking up a good one of those.
The controls, screen etc would need to be good.
Have you heard the good word of the Analog Pocket?
8:05 you mean 64gb of storage not memory, memory is a completely different part. and 64 is substantial for memory
From the Logitech website - Internal Memory: 64gb (ROM)
Honestly, I'm waiting for a device like the xperia play, call me entitled but I want a phone with the controller attached that easily fits in my pocket even if it wouldn't be the most comfortable to hold. Untill then, my samsung galaxy 20fe with the game sir x2 is good enough.
Needs a hefty price drop.
It's definitely for someone with better internet than me 😅
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the price is not worth it you can buy a samsung s7 or s8 tablet that can do everything plus gaming just connect a controller
Ergonomics. Phone screens aren't very tall (wide) and good telescopic controllers for tablets are non-existent.
Does Bob mispronounce words on purpose?? I honestly can't tell anymore 🤣🤣
Honestly, if this was 250$ rather than 350$, it would look a lot better for what it is.
You can go into tablet mode in the settings. This lets you use it like any other android device
yeah, but with tablet mode the physical button stop to work on emulation, right? so useless
@@valentds no, the buttons still work
@@valentds gamepads work on android you can even still navigate
lol, Bob can trash half the video
@@valentds Lol, asks question and incorrectly answers it themselves. Ya got me :P
... do we need to have a talk about your 2pm slot?
Not now it’s bathroom ✨me✨ time
If it was $250 I'd think it's a much better product. You can buy the Steam Deck without waiting forever now.
People bitch too much. I bought mine for $300 and am extremely happy with it. I went with G cloud instead of Steam Deck because it's battery life is way better.
$150*
@@navygirlav2012 battery life , more comfortable, way better screen. If you only want to do cloud gaming, this is the way to go. If your a pc gamer, then yea steam, its literally the only device for that.
@@EduardoLopez-tged I'm not paying a bunch of money to play on a crappy little device when I have a nice lappy that I can take anywhere.
@@navygirlav2012 if you don;t want to pay 300 for a niche product, I completely agree with you. But its not a crappy device, its build quality and functionality at what it is designed to do is actually quite incredible. I played on my laptop (cloud gaming not pc) as well but its just not as comfortable an experience. It works..... but I don't want a solution that works, I want something that excels at gaming and this device does. I have done more cloud gaming in the week I have own this then I did for Months of having game pass. But again asking someone to shell out 300 is rough and if you don't want to, power to you.
I can't forgive that "Hydeo Kojeema," Bob.
Yeah Bahb, what's up with that? Your Japanese teacher is disappointed
Seems like Bob loves to be unique at pronunciation! Meh-rio, 8bit Doo, high Dee oh Kojima
Don’t forget RetroARK
As far as i know, the english speakers have a lot of problems with how they pronounce some names, just look the Mario name, i never heard someone from that region say his name correctly except for teachers
hidey-ho kojima!
Bob you can actually switch it to the default android UI, but it's a bit buried in settings.
Also one limitation that is a bummer is that you can only have the MicroSD be Fat32 format, so you can't have any files/Roms that are bigger than 4gb for a single file.
Weird, since android has supported exFat, for quite some time now.
I guess that is the way Logitech make this handheld to work/function, the SD card slot only fat32 format🤔🤦 only 64 gb internal memory, price so high 😱 and using 720g, my Odin more powerful than this
Dang I didn't know it was only fat32, so many complete dealbreakers for this thing I wouldn't even buy it for $200
If this was $199 it would replace my Retroid Pocket 3 that I just got. There is no way I'm spending $350 for this.
I would like to see Logitech make an upgraded version with the same SoC as the Razer handheld for $300 and then discount the old one for $199.
199 gets you a Nintendo switch maybe 99 or 149 max everyone to nice getting robbed
300 gets you a Xbox series s next gen might as well save an get PS5 or X
@@mauricionarcia2015 Home consoles are not equal to portables in the same way that a desktop is different from a laptop.
@@mauricionarcia2015 The switch and Android handhelds don't really share market space. A switch needs a TON of work to do what a tablet does and it is still clunky. Out of box, purpose built android phone/tablet/ Handheld has a operating system that is appealing to the emulation community and has tons of native and non native options that are VERY easy to run.
@@greenprotag Nintendo switch your comparison is strange but I was focus on value money spent well might as well get a steam they start at 399
Bob - you are a beast. Keep up the great content! Much love.
Easily my favorite hardware reviews on TH-cam, incredibly thorough and honest and covers exactly what gamers want to know. Keep up the great work!
AT $200 I would consider. They are way off. Looks cool though.
Underrated use case is local streaming. Very low input latency and significantly less artifacting and streaming hiccups compared to cloud streaming. I do most of my handheld gaming at home anyway so honestly I've been enjoying this more than my Steamdeck. Way nicer screen w/ 16:9 aspect ratio, Haven't even looked at my PS5 through my TV since I got it. Played the Mw2 campaign and about 15 hours of Tiny Tinas Wonderlands on it so far.
Yeah, local streaming is all I'd do with this device. But at $350, I think I'll just macgyver a tablet/controller combo.
@@RandomPlaceHolderName it’s a niche device for sure. The perceived value by the customer really hinges on whether they are already into cloud gaming to begin with. This is a devices for people already sold on cloud gaming, it’s not going to sell people on cloud gaming at $350 though.
Yep. I use it to remote play my PS5 and Xbox Series S at home. That's a I use it for and it's been amazing.
@@RandomPlaceHolderName I tried this from every angle, I have iphone 13 pro and pixel 7 , and ipad mini. I have play with razer kisi on both, controller on my ipad mini, and laptops. Honestly at the end of the day, I just didn't find myself cloud gaming (or remote play) nearly as much as I wanted. Cobbling together a janky switch lite or having to play with my tablet/laptop on the table (rather then right in front of me in my hands) just isn't great when all you want to do is play on a whim. I agreed with you about the price but after exhausting all this I said fuck it and bought it (best buy has it for 300). I LOVE this thing, i was ready to try it and maybe return it. But I am keeping it, cloud gaming is so much better on this, it loads fast, no latency, the screen is beautiful, and its the most comfortable way to hold. I play BL3 for hours on it no problem rather then the 20min i could tolerate it on my phone (due to screen size and comfort). This build quaility is leagues above everyone else, honestly give it a try.
@@EduardoLopez-tged It's a solid device but you seem to have money to throw around. I personally can't justify $300 just for cloud gaming on the couch or in bed.
That said, I did get a refurbished Tab S6 Lite for ~$140. It's been a solid experience with my 8bitdo Pro controller. I just prop the tablet up on the coffee table, back of the couch or my nightstand. Hardly ideal but it works well with a 10" screen.
14:13 by the way, the Steam Deck has been readily available for a few weeks now lol
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The Steam Deck is $50 more and despite what was said in the video it is shipping almost immediately.
this should be around 150$ max
Yep. It's a tablet screen, cheap phone SoC and gamepad fused together. Nothing special.
I see a few reasons I'd want this. I trust Logitech MUCH more than a random new Hong Kong company like Ayn, and the form factor looks more comfortable than a Steam Deck. It seems pretty simple to mod/flash, it looks really good... honestly, I'd probably purchase this if I had the money right now. It's on sale for $299 for Black Friday, but I'm out of a job at the moment, but it's definitely on my radar. Thank you for the video, I wouldn't have looked into this otherwise!
Just wait until you find out that Logitech partnered with tencent to make it
@@castor9907 I'd primarily be concerned if Tencent had access to my personal data in some way. Manufacturing the thing in the first place, though, I don't have much of an issue with that.
I know it defeats the purpose of a gaming handheld but when you set up the device you can select tablet mode which I believe allows you to swipe down and access the typical Android stuff.
I'm waiting to fish it out of the bargain bin! Also, I was of understanding that there was a "tablet mode" you could access in this so you could get a more vanilla Android! Can't seem to find how to access it though!
You’ll be waiting a while then. They’re in no hurry to discount this thing, because with the amount of promotion it’s getting people will inevitably buy it even at that price.
@@Lumn08 This thing is a scam for even a third of what they're charging. It would only be worth it if it were exceptionally cheap, and only then as an emulation device. The "official purpose" of the device is a scam.
@@Lumn08 I agree, but I'm in no rush! I am on a very low income, so is very low priority. And in honesty, I don't use the portables I have. And tend to only play Switch docked!
@@StormsparkPegasus No way. If it were $117, it would blow all the budget handhelds out of the water. I think you’re missing it’s beautiful 7” 1080p screen, which is its real selling point.
@@RGGeek I feel like people are really over looking the phone market comparison with these silly streaming tablet things cause there's a few phones you can pick up for cheaper then grab a detachable controller and still be under the price of this thing and have way more features like being able to take calls and text or use it on the go still online or take nice pictures with it etc while having similar or better specs.
it feels like all the creators i follow move about every 6 months. i think the government might be hunting them.
Mine is arriving any minute, just received my steam deck but I’m curious to see which one will fit my needs more.
Edit: It’s going back. The screen is beautiful but game streaming off my computer vs native on deck, the deck is better.
Cool device though.
I'm not kidding when I say you're the only person I LOVE to watch ads for. Your most replayed spot is your ad. LOL
In a world where things like the odin and steam deck didn't exist, sure this could do well. In this market what in god's name was Logitech thinking.
I picked up the G Cloud over the weekend from my local Best Buy for $299, and I already love the device. The screen is big and amazing, while being lighter than the Switch Pro. It runs Emulator, and I LOVE streaming via Steam. It's shockingly good. I've been using it to go through Final Fantasy VII Remake on Steam, and like, save for some home router nonsense, the experince has been stellar.
I really am glad I didn't listen to reviews, because all of them told me not to get this, but.. IDK.. I guess I am the audience for this.
I'm in your same boat!! I just ordered it but I am so sure that I'm the demographic for this device.
Nobody mentions the battery life on this thing either, but I easily hit 12 hrs of battery when emulating gba! That alone and the ability to stream Steam locally is what sold me .
For thr love of God by a Steam Deck since it can literally do all the things this can and ALSO play Elden Ring...
and there's no backorder for the steamdeck so there is no benefit for buying this. When you can just buy a steam deck right now and it will ship in around 9 days or so from what I have seen.
@@kitkat5465 aa
This is definitely something I'm not very interested in. Considering I have the Steam Deck and the RG552, my emulation needs are pretty much good to go. And if I'm wanting to do "Cloud Gaming", I can just do that on the Steam Deck with 0 issue. If anything, the only devices I'm interested in at the rate is an Ayn device (Odin, Loki, etc.), or an Aya device (Neo lineup, etc.) Past that? Nothing else can really beat what I already have.
I’d pick this up for 200 if they added touch screen mapping for android games.
For $250, I’d buy it. At $350, a little out of my price range.
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I don't know. It's confusing. I cN do just as much and more with my old Pixel 4a and my Razer Kishi controller and not be out any extra money.
Couldn't care less about the Logitech handheld but I clicked, watched and updooted because I love ya. Mwaaah.