Beastmen Update Explained!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- Beastmen update explained (by an Australian). Not including any DLC content.
Are the Beastmen fixed?
Are they stronger or weaker than before?
Are they fun?
These questions will be answered
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Rare to see Legend give that amount of praise
That really means something
He sees a lot of cheese to be had.
After he gave them so much shit for so long too
legend is great, but it seems like he sees the games in numbers. I can be super excited for a cool looking unique unit, and legend is like "trash. not efficient at all. 0/10"
@@awsomeman350 some people are more aesthetic while some are more pragmatic.
Beastmen campaigns went from splinter cell to doom eternal
Beastmen:The cow is going to give it to ya
Skarsnik: have mercy pls sorry for making fun of you
Beastmen: no mercy
Memes of warhemmer This gobbo is already laughing his ass out at monke norscans tho...
@@memesofwarhemmer7076 n o n e
Most underrated comment
When he said they are at the same rank as Skaven.... I could not believe he said such words, first a 10/10 Troll Doomstack, Strong StormVermin, and now 10/10 Beastmen! Ranked as the same as Skaven
I was suprised even more when he said Beastmen were stronger than Greenskins now, and i highly doubt it. Grom has Grom's Cauldron faction mechanic which gives good amount of buffs to your best units (like goblin archers). Thanks to Greenskins' building tree, when they expand enough they can literally recruit an entire army in a single turn. Greenskins can also use WAAAGH faction mechanic which literally doubles the amount of units you have in the game with no cost at all. Aaaaand on top of that if you are able to defeat WAAAGH target you get a permanent buff (lasts until other WAAGH reward) that depends on the faction you declared WAAAGH on.
@@harryofrevachol3240 Just some problems with greenskins: Grom is the only greenskin faction with that powerfull a faction buff, cauldron isn't a greenskin mechanic so it doesn't do anything for the faction ranking (nukes don't change skaven ranking, just skryre). There are more factions that can 1turn armies (empire/dwarfs) and have actual economy to support that kind of thing (still a sweet ability tho). Waaghs aren't free, they temporarily reduce rep after you finish them and slow down your armies (can be reduced by meming lords into the waagh armies but still a thing). "Permament" buffs which can't stack are just a toggle effect where you can pick an active bonus, with the added downside that choosing/switching can be rather annoying. Also they are melee oriented so on high difficulty they are penalized greatly. Overal not the worst faction, but definitely not top tier.
@@kirevkizrepnav572 truer words have not been spoken
@@kirevkizrepnav572 First when you finish and actually be successful at your WAAAGH you are either in another war atm or you definitely need to declare another war ASAP, so that after WAAAGH debuff really counts for nothing. Second, WAAAGH only slows down your armies when they are gathering, meaning that when a WAAAGH army reaches its host army's unit size, that movement penalty gets removed, meaning that you practically recruit units while moving in an enemy territory (which no other faction has this kind of ability). Third, I was talking about WAAAGH success buff when i said permanent buff, and not all of them provide melee bonus. Some provide casualty replanishment rate buff, some give more ammunition to ranged units and buff their missile damage, and some even increase public order (not sure about the last one tho). I think i answered these questions good enough. I don't claim Broken Axe is better than Clan Skryre but i definitely don't think Beastmen are better than Greenskins even without choosing Broken Axe as a starting faction. Btw i want to repeat that not many faction can increase their Global Recruitment capacity as easy as Greenskins do.
@@harryofrevachol3240 Well if the statement was that Beastman are similar rank as Skaven, than they are definitely better then Greenskins. Most important thing will be: How fast you can accumulate Dread....Compered to other Items, Bonuses etc. It doesn't seems to be that much expensive to hire Lords/Heroes at lvl. 40.
Beastmen have given up their old ways, now they're farmers and shepherds.
Makes sense, they're cows after all.
Now they are not Beastmen, but Tomb Beasts
Murderous herbivores still need to eat
And yet, by doing so, they can keep ruins ruined until someone burns the Herdstone.
@@indrickboreale7381 or Beast Kings
The denying of resettlement given me huge hope for the chaos update next game.
When razing settlements as woc you are essentially creating portals to the realms of chaos so it could work to make them act as semi garrisons, perhaps even allowing you to recruit some units at them. This beastmen implementation of no upkeep for units is also an obvious idea for woc
Nevermind the next game... The Chaos Invasion includes a Warherd of Chaos, so even if the player can't do it the AI might be able to deny resettlement and actually get past Kislev.
@@novakaizr Gates of Chaos mod has them summon vassal hordes, which I like a lot.
@@knuckle1493 I know, I use it too. It's not quite the same as a garrison though
whenever I raze a settlement a random faction out of nowhere colonized it in the next 3 to 5 turns it was ridiculous. least I got the despoiler trait.
The three guys actually playing Beastmen will have an absolute field day
Lol I’ve been playing beast men since I got the game there my fav faction but Even i couldn’t deny they where out of date but now I don’t have to worry and can get back to destroying humanity!
A lot more than 3 people will be playing them after the update simply because of how great the update is looking.
My mate and my cousin literally only play Beastmen, I think there are far more than you think. I would love to play them as well but I'm taking so long to play all the other free races first.
I've been waiting for a rework to properly play Beastmen. This is exactly what I wanted
love beastman, hate the old mechanic, this makes me very happy.
I'm so pumped, I love Beastmen thematically and this sounds like everything they needed.
Hell yea dude. I'm hype. Love the beastmen cant freakin wait. Wish they would just let us have it now
Same here! They've always been fun in battle but a chore in campaign. Now the campaign looks really fun, deep and thematically fitting. I cannot wait for this update and to rampage as Taurox across the world.
sending the game out with a BANG. expectations high for game 3 now
Nah. Expect TW3 at launch to be barebones. They will add more content at extra price.
I’m sure it’ll need some tweaking but hopefully it doesn’t pull a Rome 2 on launch day.
@@marcgw496 I think game 3 will launch rather light until the mortal empires update hits and then the game will soar past people's expectations
@@brockbabcock3086 Isn’t it confirmed immortal empires will be there at launch?
@@colef2222 Pretty sure they have said it won't. It makes sense to not do it as launch as well. For one it lets them focus exclusively on getting it to work without having to finish the rest of the game at the same time, and it allows them to keep the hype going for longer
"Is it a bird, is it a plane, oh man no...it stinks like shit, it's Malagor" had me lolling - great update overview
Patch notes:
Stink of Nurgle: -4 leadership for enemies in local region, from -5
Sad moo noises
Also Bastmen rework
*beastial roar*
Tomb Kings style recruitment makes so much more sense for the beastmen!
let the centigor milk flow
Love ❤️ centigor milk 🥛 , wait is this milk ??? ❤️🤣
What a sweet boy he was
gross
that is DISGUSTING XD
“Maybe you’ll have a herd of just centigors…” beastman centigor flc lord confirmed
Don’t do that… don’t give me hope…
Dude im still simping for moonclaw.
@@FR4Z3R96 Don't worry, it'll probably be in three. We've got three Big Names left after all. Moonclaw, Slugtongue and Ghorros
@@hawkticus_history_corner wouldnt really call the last two big names though
@@varengo1838 I'd kind of agree on Slugtongue but Ghorros is pretty well known as far as the tabletop was concerned and in any event, I was just listing off the Unique Characters we have left.
And I even forgot one, the two headed Ungor whose name escapes me
So I guess now when I hear the """BEASTMEN""" voice while playing another faction my butthole will pucker up a bit, in stead of just some free xp and money
'The Brayherds are coming'
before: oh look free money and exp
now: that is actually a problem
I think a lot of people would like if the option to "buy\confederate" legendary lord even if they die was something shared among all races.
I'm also pretty sure that a lot of the mechanics will also come back for the warrior of chaos in the future.
would make sense, CA have treated a lot of those DLC like experience before adding the newly made mechanics back to other races. The tomb kings' crafting has been given to the dwarfs, Norsca's confederation given to orks, etc...
It makes sense that they use this DLC as a test for the respond toward WH3
There is a mod i use that does this, when a faction of your kind is destroyed you have the option of taking them on, delaying, moving them onto another faction of your kind or killing them. It made start of games much more relaxed than rushing heroes to sprint to locations before the lord dies
@@chrisf7730 That's exactly how i feel and i think the game would just be better if it was in vanilla.
I'm sure that very few people would complain if they had to spend a Huge amount of money to resurrect a legendary hero with the ability to freely respec their skill tree.
I don't even think that's OP because this is not a competitive game, it's about having a good time.
Holy fuck.. These guys were unplayable before and now I feel like they're gonna be so much fun. Can't wait for the DLC to come out.
how do you feel now
I love to hear these news! Beastmen were one of the first factions I played when I got Warhammer 1, and I hated how badly they were treated by CA.
I like the passion when Legend says "destroy"
To be honest cant wait for the dwarf and ogre update
I always seem more excited for the FLC, can’t wait to play dwarfs in a new spot haha
ogres are in the game with this update part of the beastmen roster. They have some ogre units it looked like
I really just want runic golems. Make them like treekin. They don't wreck units but they can't take a beating and don't get pushed through by monsters and cavalry like mkst dwarf units do. Be nice to have a front line that can prevent large units from getting to your back lines.
@@imtherealgandalf3490 the ogres are part of a new mercanary mechanic and are not tied to a specific roster
Yes, cant wait
Yes! Yes!
This beastmen update sounds like everything beastmen fans could have hoped for. I can’t wait for the 14th!
Wasn't for the 24th?
ok, legend has succumbed to the ruinous powers. "destroy kill kill kill."
Raze for the raze god
Wow.
They are like Tomb Kings on crack. No need to slowly build and defend a large empire, you just grow constantly and never lose anything. That is nuts.
I bet they're going to be so fun to play now. I love the Dread mechanic to buy army caps you really want instead of the Tomb King way of just buying 1 of all the tier 5 and tier 4 buildings in every settlement.
I'm excited, can't wait.
Man this all sounds fucking great! I will play my first ever Beastmen campaign as soon as this is out
I can definately see a couple of these mechanics translating to Warriors of Chaos as well. Particularly the Dread/Rewards system. Would really like for WoC to be more splintered, like most other factions.
I've been sceptical of this DLC and update, but it's growing on me. Good to have the details explained. Cheers.
I am so pleased to hear how much more fun they are to play! I never got far with my previous campaigns because I just wasn't enjoying them as much as I felt I should have. Looking forward to release!
A real chad would do a doomstack with 20 Legends of Total War!
20 legendary spellcasters 1/19 heroes with the lore of cheese? Too OP.
Seems a pretty good pack of changes !
Sounds like a fantastic update. Can't wait to play Beastmen again, everytime I tried in WH2 I quit within 10 minutes. Did they change the Army Stances? Used to be pretty annoying in that horde stance wasted turns.
At last a beastman update, no need to download or try and make compitable mods work with each other. Beastman and goblins are the best !
im so glad this rework exists, finished recently an orion campaign and it was fun, before the update it was suffering. congrats ca on the good job, cant wait to play this and wh 3
really changes your old 20 turns guide man
From what little I know of the Beastmen lore, the rework is more lore friendly for the mentality of the Beastmen, where there all about moving from one site of atrocity to another, reveling in the destruction. It's more like what would happen if the Orks had the cunning, knowledge, and fighting of the Wood Elves (but a bit less because Elves are supposed to be OP in most fantasy).
This looks fantastic, I'm actually looking forward to playing a Beastman campaign now
The Beastly Pandemonium building says that it increases all Beastmen, Warriors Of Chaos, and Norscan Units. This means Chaos undivided will truly be undivided now! This is amazing since that means that if this update comes out and everyone likes it, then the Warriors of Chaos and Norscan factions will have a similar update
Can't wait to watch LegendofTotalWar's beastmen campaign livestream!
I wish I had watched this before starting your Taurox VoDs. The mechanics make so much more sense now. Great video!
Certainly looks a lot better than before. GOnna be interesting to see how the AI deals with it and if the Beastmen are gonna be hard to deal with
This looks really fun, very well thought out and I can't wait to play it. I LOVE the Beastmen so much that I played them on the tabletop for a decade, and played through their campaign on TWW2 twice.
Never played beastmen before this update but I got the dlc yesterday and started a campaign with Taurox. Dude is an absolute monster and I managed to take out malekith, grab the sword of khaine, and decimate the donut with it pretty quickly and easily. Taurox with the sword of khaine can easily be a one man doomstack I think. He can get an absurd charge bonus and hits enemy lords for most of their health in the initial charge. I've gone against full stacks of dark elves and high elves and the battles last only a minute or two until army losses is inflicted. Oh and being able to replenish movement and raze multiple settlements per turn is pretty fun. One of the strongest and most fun campaigns I've played so far.
Big question: you say the generic lords lose all their buildings when they die, but what if you've leveled them up to 20 and gotten immortal? It's understandable them losing the builds before that as they're just dead, but with immortal, surely they would keep their horde builds wouldn't they?
no. the buildings are not tethered to them
@@LegendofTotalWar Thanks for the reply, 'preciate it
*Happy moo* At last… beastbois finally aint a joke… For so long have we waited!
[Bassboosted version starts] TYLKO JEDNO W GŁOWIE MAM
Koksu pięć gram odlecieć sam
W krainę za zapomnienia
*Happy moo*
From dumpster-quality to rat-quality?! That’s insane! I can’t wait to give these lads another go!
THIS WAS GREAT!
Thank you for the brofessional review!
Thank You for all the hours and hard work you put into this video, it seems TWWH2 is going out with a gigantic bang!
I could emagine chaos portals for the chaos warriors now, just kinda like the Herdstones, *hope intensifies* :)
After seeing dread, empire influence needs a few more uses.
if i were to add anything to this update, I would add a buff for when you complete a blood ground. Like a 1 or 2 turn buff to movement for local armies. and a 1-2 turn buff to pop growth for the blood ritual site. would push the player to set up a new ritual as soon as possible. Call it a gore-slick buff or something.
Other than that, i love this update.
This update is solid hearing legend talk about it like this
When he says Gore Bulls it sounds like he wants us to start propagandizing in 1940s Germany.
I'm more of a Franco man myself.
@@markcollins2704 Based
Took me a sec
16:23 I love Legend's humor.
Thanks for the update vid legend. I was holding off on getting beastmen and the new dlc, but this really sold me on it. Looks like good fun.
Wow. Ive never seen legend be THIS positive about a major game change. Thats impressive. This video was definitely encouraging.
It's nice to see that Khazrak now starts with bestigors. It was odd how his old buffs were put towards bestigors and he didn't start out with any. When other lords did start with a target unit.
Wulfhart gets Huntsmen
Gromm gets a Pump Wagon
Count Noctilus gets a Necrofex Colossus. It's a nice change.
yes. It is my time.
Thank you so much for a detailed video! Love the passion and breakdowns!
This looks fantastic - Was abit worried, but now im fully hyped for beastmen campaigne. I love playing TomeKings and seeing a similare mechanic here just got me all up and hyped.
I never played Beastmen and never really wanted to give them a try.
But this... does put a smile on my face. Literally, I was grinning like an idiot when I reached the end of the video, I cannot imagine what it must be like for a Beastmen fan
think this can also make the beastmen more dangerous as ai too. they will likely get a stack of weak chaff quickly, and if they survive long e nough replenish strong units quickly.
Hope the Tomb Kings will get this confederation mechanic
Woah… Legend giving this so much praise when he is a pretty critical guy in general. Has me super hyped. I haven’t bothered even playing a Beastmen campaign cuz they seemed so bad, I’m excited to start my first campaign
Wait... A reason to raze settlements? Am I dreaming?!
Holy shit, that is serious praise.
I usually just buy the game for the sake of supporting and only watch it on YT.
I think I might consider actually playing it.
You are the legendoftotalwar!
I hope they do the whole legendary lord recruit mechanic with the Tomb Kings, they already have a alternative resource and they can maybe based that cost on how powerful that specific faction is you want to buy or be required to have higher strength ranking than them (so you don't just suddenly buy up a strength ranking 3+ faction and take over their empire with enough jars)
Or the faction of the legendary lord needs to be destroyed and then you raise them with the jars
Which would make more sense since it's like subjugating/resurrecting the fallen legendary lord
Oh wow, looks like the Beastmen got the Skaven level of attention in this DLC, I hope the Lizardmen won't get screwed over because of it - again (see Prophet vs Warlock DLC). Regardless, it'll be nice to killmaimburn through the second half of July and possibly beyond.
The denial of resettlement is a great feature it would fit thematically if the chaos factions where the frontline of destruction and beastmen would then move in an build herdstones and pillage whats left after the ruinous powers have swept through. Kind of Naikai style.
What an amazing thing for the legendary lords for confederation. They need to do this for all the factions in some capacity. Maybe not necessarily all races like the high elves(which diplomacy is kind of the point), green skins or tomb kings(who have other means of confederation), but would be an incredible add on for any campaign
MOO FOR THE MOO GOD AND BELLS FOR HIS THRONE
sounds great. everything in here. and it comes when i end the exams! this will be a good summer
This looks great. It also looks like they took a lot of inspiration from the SFO mod, which is also great
May I also say it is always refreshing to see Legend excited 😄
So the global bonus seems to be notable areas where you would feasibly fight as a beastmen lorewise. (That's why there isn't any in Tomb Kings areas because beastmen doesn't fight there)
I like the beast men lore wise so I’m super excited to play them
As a player that have finished only 1 full campaign, with the Beastmen, I`m very happy about this...
However as all other races bored me to death in the long run (reason for which i haven`t finished other campaigns), I hope the beasts are still fun as before
Luckily so it seems from this video...
I doubt Legend was critical enough of this Beastmen update, what with the simple questions lending themselves understandably to players but not asking if the new design of the race is good. It incentivises and rewards battle, in contrast Wood race mechanic rework but similar to the Greenskin Waaagh rework.
I take from this race rework Beastmen armies do not increases supply lines penalty. Units being free of recruitment and upkeep cost are an easy way to earn praise but the design of the Beastmen now by tieing army capacity to a currency else of money seems promising.
1:00. I play on vh/Legendary and i found the WE update improved their power compared to the standard way i was playing them (no debt economy exploit)
Beastmen thematically are one of my favourites. I was gonna buy the DLC anyways but it's nice to know I won't be dissapointed.
Hey, i got a question: You said, that the legendary Lord will keep the buildings, but the other Lords wont. Most likely because the legendary Lord can respawn but others get killed. My question: what if the other Lord is immortal, would he not also respawn when rerecruited?
I would also like to know lol
I’d guess they would also have their buildings back
He answered this question on someone else's comment, he said that no - the buildings aren't tied to none legendary lords even if they're immortal.
I can't fucking wait for this, I'm so hyped, like for any other dlc before
Really glad to see special herdstones for certain locations.
This encourages to lorefully kill all Wood Elves and i like it
Bodily liquids in my trousers!!! Lets gooooo
I brought the Beastmen DLC and have been playing with them just to see if they really were that bad, the update can't come soon enough for those who have been playing them since they first came and for those who just got the DLC because it was an offer... Man, I can't get over how bad it feels at the moment, if you get a bad battle you got to sit for a few turns, if you raze something you need to bodyguard whoever did it and sometimes AI resettles that very same turn, got that happening 3 times with 3 different factions in the same settlement. I can say I'm eager to stop scalies on Lustria and then swing back to Altdorf to give good 'Ol Karlos Frantzisco a piece of my mind about not sending 1 fully decked out army every turn for 3 turns.
love your videos dude. bro I always thought that the Beastmen shouldn't pay money. never expected CA to do this. I'm stoked. I hope they consider alternative ways of paying for other factions as well. namely, WoC, Vampire Counts and a few others that could have other means of recruiting troops that are more thematic. I love this update already and haven't even played it. They are proving that they know what we want, they're reading our considerations / criticism and taking them to heart. This is awesome. I only expect the best from their DLCs. they haven't disappointed me very often with the Warhammer series. it's only gotten better with each update for the most part.
"Bill-bali"
Sinkin' some bill's eyy mate?
im SO fucking happy they finally fixed beastmen... love these dudes thematically, easily one of my favorite old world factions, and it'll be so nice to actually have fun playing them now lol
Sounds like they actually did a good job on it! Good to hear!
Awesome video, thanks Legend
Sh*t, on par with Skaven? Seriously?
Poor Tarriff, he'll no longer have the beastmen to kick around anymore.
He is looking at Norsca lately
Don't worry, Morghur still dies continuously.
cant wait too see a campagin from you on this race! hope the flc lord is fun too!
Lore wise I love that the closest thing the Beastmen have to a city is just a really big rock they carve rituals into and cluster around.😁😂
Great video. Answered all my questions.
Skarsnik: LOOK! LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK!!!! -laughs-
Taurox: your time of living has expired.
Wish the army capacity mechanic was more used, has the potential to make the management during the campaign more dynamic
Ech.. huuuuge missed opportunity putting the global Herdstone in Altdorf instead of Middenheim...
I was thinking the same thing considering the lore lol.
Toddy: HAHA SUCK IT RIEKUCKS! MIDDENLAND FOREVER!
16:30 - I laughed so loud... and almost chocked myself with food... :D
Damn, I can't wait for Taurox to come out and play them. :)
Time to get back with paiting my Beastmens army. :)
Are Gorebulls the same as Doombulls? Cause I think i saw them in the trailer (some kind of gorebull fighting with his fists) that they were coming along with the other new units for beastmen in this DLC but I think i haven´t seen them yet (don´t have much idea of the lore itself)
Just bought this in 2022 summer sale. Time to raise the herd!
This is fantastic. Still a horde, yes, but people need to get over that mental block. It used to be a handicap, but now CA has finally made it fun and powerful.
Only 2 things missed: LL skill trees and any adjustments to LL starting traits
Khazrak actually starts with bestigors? What a surprise lol