Can We Upgrade a '08 Z06 Corvette to Outperform a '15 Z06 For Half the Cost? - Engine Power S2,E17
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- C6 Z06 gets new Track Day brake package, suspension upgrades, sticky tires plus get more LS7 power with long-tube headers.
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PARTS USED IN THIS EPISODE:
Continental Tire: Continental Tire, Extreme Contact Dw, 275/35/18 Front, 325/30/19 Rear
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Edelbrock: Supercharger System, E-Force, Serpentine, Black Powder coated, Intercooler, Chevy, 7.0L, Kit
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JBA Performance Exhaust Co.: JBA 06-11 Z06 Catted X-pipe for JBA Longtube Headers
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JBA Performance Exhaust Co.: Headers, Long Tube, Full-length, Stainless Steel, Silver Ceramic Coated, Chevy, 7.0L, Pair
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Power Stop: Z23 Evolution Sport Track Day Performance 1-Click Brake Kit
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QA1: Shock, Twin Tube, QA1 Stocker Star, 15.880 in. Extended, 10.880 in. Collapsed, Each
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QA1: Shock, Twin Tube, QA1 Stocker Star, 16.190 in. Extended, 11.200 in. Collapsed, Each
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American Powertrain Systems: Clutch Kit With Hydraulic Bearing Assembly For C6 Corvette
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PowerNation I opened the info to much disappointment when I saw the sweepstakes were now closed. Guess I missed it...Dang! When was this actually done?
@@quickgearshifter2719 before 2015, as the video stated verbatim, prior to the new 2015 Z06 being introduced.
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Chrisfix would've changed the rear main seal as preventive maintenance, along with the pilot bearing.
Yep.. all that trouble to get to it you would think they would have done that. Not like it's a ton of money to replace those.
Agree with you there! Why not just do it?
@Chuck Taylor Yea I have never thought the work done here was exceptional by any means.
Chrisfix is awesome
@@TEFLONDONTRUMP2024
He's both entertaining, and super helpful. I love watching his videos, and I don't even own a car anymore.
I would just do a cam/heads swap on that LS7. It'll produce about 625 hp and no blower and all the issues it brings with it. It's 1/3rd the cost of that blower kit. And if you're going to rip out the drive train to replace the clutch/flywheel, replace the $5.00 rear main seal.
@Chuck Taylor Yep. If you're going to remove the drivetrain, replace the stupid simple things that wear normally. Especially on a car that has been beaten to death. I wouldn't want this car.
WYAIT is the rule of the land of high performance and older cars.
“Make sure you use a 2 post lift. We wouldn’t even attempt this on jack stands”
Cleetus Cooper and James: Hold my beer and watch us do this countless times at the track on jack stands
lol I've seen my buddy remove hsi entire drivetrain and motor on his f1x c6z twice in a day, and put it back in twice as well all in the same single day. He's powered by about 40k of weed a year though
Cleetus can change out a clutch in both his vettes in under a hour
HELL Yeah Brotha
Johnathan Gillespie best reply ever 👌🏽😂😂
To be fair though, can we really call Leroy a Corvette anymore?
@@sparkplug1018 The title states it.
@@MedicatedOMO We all know what the car is based on. But come on is it really a Corvette anymore.
C6’s will always be the best vette in my eyes. Especially the zr-1
I think the look is perfect 👍😁
Idk a 2019 zr1 with a wing delete is the fastest and prettiest Corvette
Soundz By Que _ I actually like the C6Z06 better thanthe C6ZR1, but imo the C7 Z’s look better than any vett to date
I use to think that but the c7 is so much better in every facet imaginable. When you get inside a c6 they feel so dated. Fuck my GTO kills a c6 interior and comfort wise.
Jacob Herron yea of course. I drove one before and you absolutely right about the interior. Then again i’m not worry about interior I like performance lol. C7s are very beautiful cars.
A brand new 18 minute video on C6 Z06 in 2019 ... I'm freaking aroused.
sameeeeeeeee i came
I did. I spent 33k on my Z06 and 15k on my Supercharger, trans upgrades, and coilovers. 855rwhp later.
WOW!🙀😎👍
Kim Chi now it’s a super car killer 🤘
Cali Angler he spent $48,000 to beat a $70,000 hellcat stock my factory.
Pretty good numbers if you ask me.
Out another $15k in and you’d walk just about anything stock.
Jarrod G he could have easily gone the n/a route with doing his heads, bigger cam, some bolt ons and e85 and it would easily take out hellkitties all day
Cali Angler you're delusional
Scratch the Super Charger if you do it right you can get 600 to 650 at the wheels N/A Heads / Cam / Intake / Exhaust / Throttle Body / Cold Air Intake /Injectiors / Fuel System etc. Probably need a stronger clutch too
I've always loved the C6 Z06 but I never realized how much of a pain in the ass it is to work on
A c5 is just as bad
"...pain in the ass..."
Just a gentle reminder that Colossians 3:8 instructs us not to use vulgar language. Ignore God's rules for living at your own peril.
@@jhrsjhrs In a mechanics garage all that no cussing bullshit goes right out the door
Reality instructs us differently in the real world.
They're actually very easy to work on. Don't let pulling the drivetrain out of the car intimidate you. It's very easy. One of if not the easiest car i have ever worked on.
Haven't watched the Video. The answer is absolutely yes. The C6Z doesn't need much at all to outperform a C7Z
Corrie Elieff msd TB too
I have about $45k total invested in my 2008 Z06 (I know it's not worth that much. Engine upgrades costed around $10k - money I'll never see again, but it sure makes the car fun!). Anyway, it's just a naturally aspirated Heads/cam/exhaust LS7. No supercharger, turbos, or nitrous. Since it weighs just 3100 pounds, and now produces 660 hp, it will outperform any stock C7 Z06, Hellcat Redeye, and even the 2020 C8. The LS7 (with aftermarket heads) is a beast of a motor. It's the most fun I have ever had driving on the street.
Did they film this like 4 years ago?
yes
@@ethanhiggins4887 makes sense... when they talkked about the 2015 Z06 being the fastest yet I was like uhhhh the C7 ZR1 hello?? Lol
@@nickadkins7765 I was just saying that lol
So now that its 2020 and you can get a c7 z06 for 45k you're saying just get c7.
@@guyod1 no you can't lol
I’m so glad that this TH-cam channel exists. I’m addicted to this stuff
I would've replaced the pilot bearing also. The needle bearings go bad and can cause drive line vibrations. Being a GM technician and doing it under GM warranty,you were careful with checking all components didn't want to do the job for free.
They didn’t mention thread locker on the flywheel bolts, but surely they used some?
Feel like I just watched one really long commercial.
What about the valve dropping issue with that 7.0? Should of really done something before it does something. Also you didn’t replace the pilot bearing, big no no.
H&P Customs not their problem after they give it away.
@@RadDadisRad lmaooo that's fucked up
These guys do this sort of stupid shit on every build. It's stunning.
I guess if you win it then you can fix it.
There was a video they did on a mustang where they drilled and tapped into the oil pan while it was still on the car. They show you so many things to not do to cars. I also would never drive one of their cars. It would be sold if I ever won one.
Well damn don't burn up that clutch look like a pain to replace
Makes you understand how stupid that video is of the guy that thought he was doing a killer burnout but was smoking out his clutch. Watch it if you like to cringe ;
@@bailey9r “that was not the tires” lol
@@yungtooli ?
@@bailey9r thats what the guy recording said in the video you’re talking about after the guy roasted his clutch
@@yungtooli Oh very good that's correct! ;
Now I’ll tell you what. There isn’t a damn thing you can’t do on jack stands and a few busted knuckles. Changed a transmission in 3 foot of snow on jack stands
i teh ya HWAT
You da man 👍😁
Ok boomer
was it uphill both ways?
thatallredheadude 1 yoir got damn right it was
I'm not sure why you would buy a c6 z06 and supercharge it (unless you're building the motor). You can make over 600whp (650+ crank) with heads/cam/intake/headers. Let that 7L breathe!
Exactly why I stopped the video soon as i saw the blower. Disappointed they didn’t go max effort NA🤦🏾♂️
I love the look of the C6 Z06 idk why even though it doesn’t look that much different from a regular coupe its just a great looking car
I can confirm you can drop that driveline on jack stands. You’re cramped underneath it but you sure can do it.
If ya done an RaceProveMotorsports, "RPM," Cam package, w/ full intake & exhaust, they have made 650WHP, saved weight, prly cost less, and been a better car all around. Then put a blower on, lulz.
Haha ya I thought they were going to upgrade the heads and cam as that would definitely make it more competitive against the c7.
Advanced induction 280 cc cnc work on the stock heads, 1 7/8" headers, RPM B-3 cam (some are saying the actual spec is 243/259 .623 .623 116), ported Msd intake manifold, Halltec or Vararam intake, plus a good tune would have got them to 640-660 horsepower at the wheels (540-560 ft lbs of rear wheel trq)
@@GTStuning- I've always wondered what the specs were on that B-3 cam. Have these numbers been confirmed?
That should make them work, that’s some cool engineering right there
"on it's last leg" are you effing kidding me, that shit looks brand new.
My favorite dream car especially jet stream blue. It’s been on the locked page of my I-Pad for the last 15 years.
But the ipad was released 9 years ago
@@owenalphamgb7556 dont disrespect time travelers dude. They can do some crazy stuff.
@@Sak-zo1ui ha great stuff
Honestly the C4 ZR1 and C6 ZR1 are my favorite Corvettes of all time
You can make more than lt4 with an N/A setup on that ls7
"We would never attempt this on a set of jack stands." I have done a clutch swap on a C5 Z06 and a C6 GS and both was on jack stands. I also was by myself the whole time. Its not easy and a lift is definitely a huge help but you can do it on jack stands just fine.
In addition to jack stands, did you have to use 1, 2 or 3 jacks during the process? Thanks
@deadend Nothing dangerous about putting a car up on jack stands, it's literally a safety device to use when you jack a car up so it doesn't collapse on you in the first place.
@deadend Not sure you've ever worked under a car on jack stands before, there is literally nothing dangerous about it. Less room, sure. But at the same time... you have a jack on the trans when you drop it in either situation anyhow.
@deadend Except we're talking about a jack **stand** not a jack. You need a jack for both the lift or the jack stands anyhow, for removal of any parts you're dropping from underneath. You're not under the car very much to drop a transmission, as you're lowering it down onto a jack to pull it out. A jack stand is the exact same material as a hydraulic lift, they're both steel. One just has a hydraulic cylinder to move it up and down. Sure the jack stands don't lift it up as high, but you don't need to stand under a car to work on it, your grandfather did it long before those lifts became wide spread. Guess what they used then?
I've done it three times and need to do it again. Damn slave cylinder is leaking. Not looking forward to it at all.
10:06 You can also just remove that bolt to the right and the shifter rod will slide off
c6 z06 with the 7 liter is the best way to go in my opinion. no replacement for displacement!
keep up the good work guys, but i woulda changed the rear seal n bearing and done the other motor mount as well
Love the c6 z06 - 10/10
You don’t need boost in a c6 z. Heads , cam , ported msd intake, cold air , ported tb and you have 580-620whp na add e85 and you have 650 whp n/a. At the lowest and smallest cam 550-580 whp that will bot race a c7 z which makes 550-570 whp 580-600 wtq stock in both et and trap speed. You add boost and it’s not even fair for the c7 z it’s to heavy at 3570 the c6 z can weight 3109-3200 or less with light weight wheels and headers . Second those brakes are two heavy you want 2 piece rotors with aluminum hats those are one piece and heavy.
that clutch job is a nightmare
Pro chargers add 50% increase horsepower so 750 hp is easy with the ultimate ls engine
I always feel that the ls7 should stay high horsepower NA
Before even watching I know the answer to your title is YES. Hell you can get a C5 there too.
I will bet $20 new stock shocks ride better that the aftermarket one.
It was nice right up to the black rims I dont like black rims they were fine the way they were.
wish i had these guys skill and know how
Should have gone with the Magnuson 2650 blower. I think everyone knows that's true by now. ~
It want available back then when this was aired.
I cannot believe you did not do a Dino run prior to the engine work and exhaust. Instead you use your Dyno machine as a parts counter. Also I hope in the next video it shows you addressing the head problems that are major issues with this particular years and engine. There's videos on here of people leaving the dealership and had gone a couple of blocks away and had to be towed back to the dealer. GM is aware of the issue what has refused to fix. It's just like Ford's with their 6.0 diesels they are aware there's major issues but but refuse to fix. Anybody with Gen 6 Corvettes that are ZO6 have a saying have you fixed your problem with your heads and if you haven't yet it's just a matter of time before it goes.
This was the build that made me rethink my desire of owning a Corvette, particularly when seeing all the work that Mike and Pat had to do in order to do the transmission swap
I still want one but because of the size of my upper back it's really uncomfortable. I can get in a one but it makes me really claustrophobic.
Lol i did that job once on jackstands. Not fun
Pain in the ass
It builds character
jonathan ford indeed It did. Lol
What was the process to do it on a jack stand?
Juan C really the same. Take driveline out
What I actually want to watch vs what’s on tv
"We would never even attempt it on jack stands..." Apparently they've never seen how many people do this in their driveway.
I'm willing to bet the average Corvette owner has never even been under the hood, let alone under the car.
Facts right there. But that can be applied for pretty much any car owner. Changing brakes is more than most people can do. And let's be honest disc brakes are really simple to change.
Love the build but I can’t stop looking at the mismatched paint between the bumper and the rest of the car.
Awesome video. Love the older z06.
The LS7 had weak internals. Lots of issues with blown engines, stock engines many with under 7k miles on them. The titanium rods and valves were bad. This engine can not handle over 600 crank hp and last long without a full internals build.
I did this on a 09 zo6 on the floor with jack stands by myself.😂 probably one of the harder jobs I’ve done on jack stands .but it can be done also rebuilt the torque tube and added a twin disk . These cars are a lot of fun 👍🏻
Now I know what the indents in my forehead are for never noticed them until hair loss so like the tires my performance isn't fully optimized my indents are showing. I'm glad my wife hasn't seen this video
Like Jay Leno, he said carbon fiber brakes...lol
A 2015 Z will run between 44-52k... an 06 Z is anywhere from 25-35k... so meet in the the middle 46k vs 30k leaves you with a 16k budget... so, probably.
Doober717 c6 z06 is 15 k
Just seen one for 39k and one other for 40/41k(ish) come on C8! drive them babies down! lol
Sure a 2015 will run about 48k, today. Not when it was new.
preludeF20Bking no it is not.
sparkplug1018 and a c6 Z when it was new was around the same price if you count inflation. So, comparing new vs new, would leave you with a budget of 3K at the most. No way 3K will get you the gains needed on the c6 platform to touch 650 hp with 650 tq.
Uhh they could be making 200-350+ more hp and torque. And compete with a zr1. Cost idk but ls3 heads and a Magnusson 2650 with a cog drive system would do a MUCH better job
This show is awesome, it reminds me of the old 4x4 show
That's super wet!!! I would so love to have that!! That car must break necks lol
It's funny, the 2015 ZO6 was $80k, the new 2020 Mid-engine Vette is $60k (that's what they say anyway) and will beat it.
65k, and wait til the 2020 Z06 comes out.
60k msrp.... they're not going to be available for that
@Chuck Taylor Anybody that buys a new Vette for drag racing is just silly.
Put it on a road coarse and let her rip.
@Chuck Taylor You can use the $12,000 you save on the Vette for more horsepower and easily outrun the GT500 in a drag race. You can't make the GT keep up to the Vette around a corner no matter how much money you throw at it...
bdd1469 yeah idk about that.. We'll see
Buy a older Vette, turbo LS and drag radials....done
i have power stop rotors and pads on my 2500hd chevy, SOOO MUCH BETTER than factory
Replaced one motor mount but not the other? Then you plan to add horsepower to the engine while one old motor mount can fail at any moment? Never bothered to check the gear oil level in the transaxle? Put the new clutch disk in without replacing the pilot bearing? It take's the same amount of time and effort to do it right as it does to do it halfassed. Rookie mistakes like these make PowerNation look bad...get your shit together guys.
i honestly prefer the C6 over the C7, so this is awesome!
that dude has a mouth piercing lol
I would crack those rotors in minutes on track.
What's the HISTORY OF AMERICAN MUSCLE gonna do if Mike goes you know !
Nice video, thanks for sharing.
I'm not going to bother doing the exact math, but I call BS they spent less than $10,000 upgrading this car.
That's bc they didn't include labor cost. Parts list is probably around the 8k mark
I'm thinking a bit more than 10k. That transmission has to be a pricey piece of kit.
why not do a heads cam setup? that's good for 600whp N/A...
But how streetable is the Corvette though that's the problem you're dealing with.
They're giving away a used and abused test/track car, lol.
Whoever won it... I hope they were smart enough to sell it off quick. Then used the cash to buy a new car.
@@MidwestFarmToys still gotta pay taxes on it so not really “free” lol. plus registration fees, insurance
@@MidwestFarmToys what, am i wrong? thats still a grand or two you gotta spend right off the bat lol
Pat, can you do a video of what is all in your shirt pocket please? Thank you!
a 2015 z06 can be had easily in the 55k-60k range. Even if only paid 20k for that ragged on c6z... you're talking WAY more than 30k buildout... not sure where "half the cost" comes from.
I think this is about 5 years old...
A new exhaust system and you dont even start it up??
Enough with the black wheels. They were a bad idea when it was "cutting edge". They make great cars look like they're riding around on four space saver spare tires. Otherwise, cool project. I look forward to the end results.
if you have enough money, donated parts, you could put wings on it and make it fly.
A lot of no no’s committed here. Any mechanic with professional schooling will have a headache after watching this
1:56 oh power nation. Why on earth are you insistent on spending thousands upon thousands of dollars to get the smallest amount of performance possible?
This car came with 505 horsepower. You said you're going to give it 650. That's only 5 lb of boost
What the hell is the point of doing all of the work for 5 lb of boost?
You can run 10 lb of boost on pump gas on a daily driver
Anyone giving odds on how long it lasts before the valve guides or #7 ringland destroys the LS7?
No more than 5 - 20 pulls.
I didn't know Powerstop hired Goose to be their brand manager. How does he find the time in between movie productions?
My dream car.. a C6 Z06
Why does the narrator sound like every Harley Davidson commercial I've ever heard?
Impossible all that stuff is < $10k - the SC alone is $8k, you're going to get headers, a clutch and other misc items for < $2k? I don't think so.
Add another 3-4k in labor if you can't do the work yourself.
You can add a supercharger to a C6 and get equal power, but it will never keep up with the C7 as far as handling. Between the much stiffer frame to the electronic rear differential and electronic steering rack the C7 simply handles noticeably better. I've had both the C6 and currently have the C7, both Z06's, and the C7 is much more stable and planted, and gives you much more confidence in the twisties.
Wagner brake pads say to cut noise. They have to chamfer them. Why Power Stop don't chamfer their pads?
How the hell have I not found this channel sooner... TH-cam has failed me
Should of done h/c/I to keep it all motor and better with heat soak
Not when Edelbrock is paying them to use a supercharger.
I've never owned a Chevy I'd love to own a Corvette I'm a Ford guy got a few mustangs expedition what I'm missing is a Corvette
I wonder what would happen to FORD , If Mike likes Chevrolet
If you were going for power, why not an AL flywheel?
Nice to see Ryan Gosling's haggard older brother came by for a visit.
For those who are in Comifornia, Are these CARB legal ?
Do these parts come with a CARB E.O. # ?
It's nice to see Amish Mike outside the dyno cell & getting some exercise working on a real car
30k cash for a 40k mile z06 lol they cost 40k + in 2022 now.
Came here to write the same thing. I just bought one for $30k.. but with a rebuilt title 😬
I can do this job in my driveway on 4 jackstands
That Corvette is beautiful. I hope to see the additional episodes online. (:
I still wonder why didn't you just hit 20M subscribers yet...
I know they're a regular sponsor, but QA1 is nowhere near the quality of Koni.
Gotta love talking heads or editors that don't know anything about cars.
POWER UPGRADES! (Shows footage of the transmission) LOL.
Just like the carbon fiber 6 piston brembo brakes
All you need are stickers. Lots of stickers.
hci z06 can 630 to the wheels what are you guys doing not making that boosted
From The Ford brothers To Mike !