MY BEST 131ci BUILD YET
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 พ.ค. 2024
- Alex had been planning his engine build combo for some time now & after much discussion between myself & Alex over Instagram tossing up different options, I finally decided to suggest what I thought was going to be the best combo for him.
He had already had a CR483 Cam kit fitted & tuned previously, however due to a less than ideal tune, the bike was left running very poorly & left far from it's full potential as a Stage 2 Bike. Take a look for yourself just how bad it was running.
I will link the TH-cam short to the 'Before Dyno runs & running condition of the bike here: • Keen to see how this o...
Now running a 131ci Stage IV kit from Screamin' Eagle with the CR515 Camshaft from the A.P.E & Cycle-Rama collaboration, this Lowrider S packs A LOT OF PUNCH!
Alex had purchased the Thunder Header X-Series 2-1 exhaust which I had great expectations of.
It sure lived up the the hype online thats for sure!
I would happily suggest this pipe to anyone considering it.
Additionally, Alex added some Galfer Disc rotors on the front & rear, a new set of T-Bars, a Memphis Shades Fairing with smoked screen.
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Intro 00:01
Tear Down 00:50
Cam Chest Installation 01:04
Lifters & Cuffs 01:49
Ring End Gap 02:12
Heads On 03:35
Compensator 04:08
Exhaust 04:33
First Fire Up 06:00
Tuning 07:21
Dyno Results 08:32
Test Ride 09:30
Initial Thoughts 10:13
Summary 13:00
Outro 13:49 - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
10,000 subscribers ? you should have ten times that mate . beautiful build I'm learning so much from your channel cheers bud.
Thanks 👍
Cool to know my fat boy was one of your first videos. Told you it was a good idea. Well done Tommy
Thanks mate! still learning how to be a TH-camr haha
That graph line is pretty much as good as your gonna see!! Great tune and great choice of parts credit to you and owner
Master tech, we need you in America
@carlclauson2606 I am trying to plan & setup a trip the States this time next year!
I plan on visiting a few speed shops & Harley Dealerships along the way.
Plan is to do a few builds over there during my time for a few customers who wish to have me do it for them.
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I test rode a 131 low rider ST and loved it! Definitely a good combo with a basani 2 into 1
Great video and excellent build Tommy. Thanks for taking the time to share Mate, keep up the great work. Cheers
Thanks for watching mate! I appreciate the channel support & positive feedback 😀
You are killing it T Miller. Builds and vids are top notch. Keep it cranking. More technical the better.
Thanks mate! I Appreciate the feedback!
I know that exact feeling. Every time I let mine eat. Keep knockin em outta the park mate! 👌💪
Cheers mate!
Wow, a M8 softail without torque dip. That pipe basically works, for sure.
Great video Tommy, love your work.
Absolutely awesome 👏🏻
The end.
Outstanding work again Tommy. Very tidy.
Thanks mate!
Catch up again soon hey?
Wish I could get my bike built like that.
I love your work 😊
Thanks for watching 👍
Great work Tommy. Wow... What a beast 👏👏
Thanks for watching 👍
Damn, absolutely loved this one Tom. Very cool you used a thunderheader for a change. Love your videos, keep em goin!
Mitch from Pennsylvania, USA...
Thanks for watching! I had a blast on this build
Awesome build, luv it
Thanks for watching
Nice work that would be fun to ride for sure . Congrats on the 10k subs👍🏻🇦🇺
Thanks mate!
It's definitely a very fun bike!
your at 11,000 congrats it should be 100,000 love the channel
Thanks mate 👍
Hi Tommy. Thanks so much for the build. It has been fantastic to see the progress and hear from you during the build.
I have watched the video a couple of times now and can not wait until I can come pick it up and ride it myself. So excited and absolutely love how it’s come out.
It’s been fantastic dealing with you, discussing the build for quite a while now and you have absolutely done a bang up job!
Can’t wait to get in the saddle myself and let ‘er rip!
It had been a pleasure mate! I can not wait to see your reaction after your first test ride!
Thanks for your business & trusting me with your motorcycle!
Another great build love your content
Cheers mate! Thanks for supporting the channel 👍 🙌 🙏
Absolutely beautiful build and numbers.. thinking about getting a 131 for my road king also
Be sure to go with the CR515 from A.P.E
Damn Dr Miller , so precise, so good 👍👍👍👍
Thanks mate! I had a blast on this build
What a beast
Look forward to you dropping videos just like this , just traded 23.5 road glide cvo for the 24 road glide cvo love to see more of anything happening with the vvt 121 engine performance
Thanks for the great content
Thanks for watching!!!!
I have that same cr 515 cam in a se135 love it power everywhere also. 168-168
That exhaust has great sound and power. Only downfall is the black coating doesnt last and the pipe gets rusty.
That's a shame.
Hopefully if it does happen can recoat!
Was a 4 month wait to get it to Australia 🇦🇺
@@alexking1251 somethings are worth waiting for and this was definitely one of them. So you won there love the bike mate
@@danr919 thanks for the kind words!
TM did an absolute bang up job! I can not wait to pickup the bike and experience it all in perosn
@@alexking1251 Too bad you can’t ride it all the way back home your rear tyre won’t last 😂 have fun mate enjoy it
Onya Tommy🤛🍻
Cheers mate!
Love it tommy!! Animal of a bike , gives me inspiration for my fxlrs , all though i have been looking for a thunderheader in aus for a long time now 😅 any suggestions were to get one , im so close to just buying directly from the usa haha
Hey mate. No one in Australia stocks one. I had to purchase mine from the states. It’s not cheap and expect a 3+ month wait!
@alexking1251 thanks mate. I've just been to a local shop in Vic they can definitely get them. But basically siad exactly the same thing you did , so I brought it anyways lol 😆 🤟
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Excellent build with proven horsepower and torque gains. Now that the owner has all that added horsepower and torque, would it make sense to install better brakes, like Performance Machine calipers?
There is more than enough braking power with the OEM calliper & these oversized Galfer rotors
6 thou runout , eeeeek. What's your experience with the new excessive runout specs and engine longevity? As always great videos!!!!!
H-D engineers set the max run-out to 12thou. Sitting just under 6 thou is nothing to worry about.
Some people will loose their minds over it but it's not the end of the world.
Big bore kits running OEM flywheels are absolutely fine if just ridden around like a normal bike.
If you want to build the bike for racing, skids or wheelies, then the appropriate products will be used.
Sweet, sweet build Tommy,
What is the brand and model of your helmet please,
I need a new one
It's a Biltwell, Lane Splitter. I got a tinted visor for it
Impressive results ! are any of these exhausts specifically designed to work with the 117 ci M8 , or these big bore kits ,theres very limited choice here in UK and no Harley dealership even has a dyno ! want to make the right choice for my FXLRST once ive sorted all the comfort /fit mods , Seat ,bars pegs risers etc
This pipe will work with any 114ci & up
Didn't catch who did the head work. Was it Cycle-Rama too or a local shop? What stage if there was one? Thanks for doing these videos, I enjoy watching them. Doomsdave from PA, USA.
These heads are the CNC ported extreme flow from Screamin Eagle
Where u get them sunglasses bro I need a pair 😎🤙🏽
How goods that ✅✅✅✅
You didn’t use the ape pistons any reason why?
Do you heat cycle for the MLS gaskets? Again just curious your builds are wicked thanks for the content…..❤
This is a Stage IV kit from Screamin' Eagle. It uses MAHLE pistons which come out at 10.7:1 compression ratio.
I only use APE pistons when building Hi Comp 131 builds. Then I use a 12.0:1 Piston from APE.
Every engine I build is heat cycled, I never show it on TH-cam because I think it's very boring content & I want the video to keep flowing.
Thunderheaders rule!
Any experience with the all aluminum nikasil coated cylinders from revolution performance?
No. Not yet
10:14 Not a hair out of place.
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Look at the Red Thunder exhaust, it's a thunderheader made from stainless, and a far superior build quality. Gasoline Alley is a supplier in Aus. They are my next choice for exhaust.
Will do. Thanks for letting me know
It’s similar but not a SS thunderheader.
Different baffling, different length (shorter)
Hi Tommy awesome builds and videos .Does that thunder header pipe just have straight 2” primary’s no steps?.cheers grant
@grantcurran3567 Yeah mate, both Primary tubes are 2" in diameter & are the same length (equal length).
Thanks Tommy for replying. Awesome videos
What is your opinion to use gear drive instead of cam chain at 2024 Glides ?
Better reliability?
Next question is you didn't upgrade the copresator, fuel pump & cam plate ?
Gear drive cams offer no benefits whatsoever other than removal of the chain tensioner. Even that is a debatable benefit.
I assume you ment Compensator (your spelling was off)
I installed a full billet steel, hardened Compensator ramp from Cycle-Rama.
The OEM Cam plates, & latest 8 lobe oil pump from Harley-Davidson are more than capable of handling these applications.
It's becoming very rare to fit aftermarket cam plates & oil pumps these days.
Sure early on it was more popular due to the Sumping problems, but that's long since been rectified with the 8 lobe oil pump from Harley-Davidson introduced back in late 2019
Compensator is probably one of the first parts you have to upgrade to improve the reliability.
What is the reason you didn't chose aluminium cam plate ?
Billet plates have several advantages.
An aftermarket fuel pump is better for stages 3,4,5..OEM will not handle well.
Thanks for making videos , we all appreciate it.
Like the one who informed us about the problems with S&S cam plates
Question Tommy I was told when you do a tune on a bike and to know you have made the power if you crack the throttle in second Gear the back tyre should be frying rubber can you show a demo please 🙏
th-cam.com/video/XCo5wp-xQLA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=79Vqgf7apjB4BhAS
This link has just what you're after.
@@MasterTechMiller nice work 👌on the fat bob definitely frying that tyre 🛞 love the quality of your work but I would love to see you install a turbo or super charger kit with one of your tunes
@@user-rb8xo3cz8t it might be just about to happen sooner than you think.
I'm currently in talks with 2 customers about turbo applications
@@MasterTechMiller can’t wait can you drop a hint on what bike it’s going to be
So, the stock cam plate and pump are ok and no real need for expensive billet plates/pumps?
Absolutely! The OEM Cam Plates & 8 lobe oil pumps are MORE than capable
I have to ask. How do you keep these big motors from getting to hot?
The bikes have Oil Coolers & Oil Cooled heads that focus cooling around the exhaust valves. Setting the correct Air/Fuel Ratio during the tuning process.
@Master Tech Miller what would be better for long term longevity and reliability, a stage 4 se kit with the se cam or a stage 2 with aftermarket cam? as both produce around the same amount of power. Thanks mate
Stage 2 Cam kit offer great performance increases as you are aware.
The stage 2 option matter the cam choice will always be a more long term reliable option.
@@MasterTechMiller thanks mate, appreciate it.
Would the CR483 be good for a 131? I have it in my 24 LRS with HPI exhaust. I’m looking to do a 131 upgrade in the winter and I’m wondering if I can keep this cam or what the best cam would be.
I'm thinking it'll be a little light on. Probably want something a bit bigger mate
How loud was the pipe? I have a S&S race 2into1 on my 128. im looking for something quieter.
This has a deep & quirt thump to it. Sounds really nice actually
Hey pal. Looking to build my 24 LRS up to 131. Currently running stage II with:
CR483 cam
Oil pump/cam cover
Thundermax tuner
HPI 2-1
5.5’s
Ohlins front and rear
CR comp ramp
Among other things for the stage II like intake, etc.
I was planning to buy the SE 131 kit. I’m wondering if I should buy a flywheel but don’t know if I should go 4 3/8 or 4 5/8. Also would you recommend a CR515 or CR550 cam and 6.8 injectors.
Any info you can provide will be appreciated. I want it to be quick off the line but manageable in the corners.
If I lived in Australia I would just bring it to you, but I’m Canadian so the best I can get from you is your expert opinion.
Your bike currently has a 4-1/2" stroke. If you were to go down to a 4-3/8" stroke (107ci Models) you will be sacrificing displacement. If you go with a 4-5/8" stroke crank you will have more displacement for the same bore.
Using a 4.310" bore as a reference, a 4-3/8 stroke will give you 128ci, with a 4-1/2 stroke will give you 131ci & finally the 4-5/8 stroke will give you 135ci.
The CR515 works absolutely perfectly with the SE 131ci Stage IV kit with the comp ratio sitting at 10.7:1
You can take the comp upto 12.0: in the 131ci Stage IV kit with a set of high comp pistons from CP Carrillo.
If you decided to do that you should consider the CR550 Cam.
@@MasterTechMiller thank you for the reply!
what would be the difference between the CR512 and CR515 cam in a HD 131ci crate motor? going in a 21 Low Rider S with supporting mods.
More peak HP from the CR515.
The CR512 will provide a stronger low to mid range section
@@MasterTechMiller ok thanks.
Looks like you got lucky and the valve stem wasn't in the way for the strap lol
A very RARE event!
5°C = 41°F,
15°C = 59°F
hi Tommy, did you find out why it was running on one cyl before?
Shitty tune from another shop cause the spark plug to foul on the rear cylinder
@@MasterTechMiller Tommy can I ask for some advice pls?
Sure
@@MasterTechMiller I have 2018, 107 fatboy, 20k kms.
It came with screamin eagle pipes.
The engine response is lack lustre, boring, surprisingly fuel economy is excellent.
What can I do to make it feel like a bike not a car? cheers.
@ihateemael assuming the bike is not yet tuned & just running the Slip On Screamin Eagle mufflers (which is fine). I would start with getting a tune.
You'll need to select a tuning device. If your in Australia I suggest a Direct Link Key from Technoresearch.
If you're in the US I suggest a Power Vision.
You cam still opt for a Power Vision here in Aus too, but I prefer the Direct Link key.
If just a dyno tune is not enough for you, I highly suggest a Stage 2 cam package & air filter upgrade. While your current exhaust system is OK, It will be holding back potential of a stg 2 kit.
I would suggest a set of Freedom Sharp Curve Radius pipes & just about any high flow air filter option from SE or reputable aftermarket option. Keep in mind, the more Air Filter element you can see, the better the filter (generally). All the fancy looking decorative ones generally cover too much of the filter element resulting in restrictions.
What was the pipe?
Thunder Header X-Series?
❤ THIS, HOW MUCH USD DID THE PARTS COST ? & HOW LONG WAS THE LABOR & COST ?
Email me at workshop@ddhd.com.au & I will provide you with pricing.
The customer had purchased & supplied some of the parts prior to build to be fitted during the build & I am unsure on how much he paid for those.
I cam provide you with the labour cost, kit cost, dyno fee etc.
SUBSCRIBE PEOPLE. AMAZING BUILDS - LETS GO MASTER TM!
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Test rider 7154 suffers cold hands at 15 degrees , remind him to wear gloves.
🤣😂 Yeah, I should have put them on before leaving the shop.
Put the cost of all parts used pls 😭
For the engine build or entire job?
@@MasterTechMiller both would be nice, but im more interested in the engine build
like to know what that all cost...
How much do you think? Have a guess
I’m just about to do some work to my m8 roadglide, your channel pumps me up love your content
Thanks mate.
Glad you're enjoying watching
@@MasterTechMiller 💯 mate