Sudhir Srinivasan's The Late Review | Indian 2 | Shankar | Kamal Haasan | Siddharth | Nedumudi Venu
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- Here is Sudhir Srinivasan with the latest episode of The Late Review, where he dissects director #Shankar's film #Indian2, starring #KamalHaasan, #Siddharth, #RakulPreetSingh, #SJSuryah, #PriyaBhavaniShankar, #Vivekh, and #NedumudiVenu, among others. The analysis contains minor spoilers.
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Shankar has made a "Thamizh Padam" of Indian (1996). Completely spoofed and spoiled our childhood memories.
The reason why the film didn't work out is: "Indian Thatha character's authenticity is spoiled."
Exactly 😢
Authenticity means exactly ena sola vareega ? Any example?
@@amarnaths.p1685 Avaru makeup, avaru behavior, idhu rendume Indian 1 ku match eh agala bro. No consistency.
Brilliant review! In Part 1, the investigation officer Krishnaswamy (Nedumudi Venu) with his booming voice from Nasser is the real hero. When he meets Senpathi (Kamal) it was like Robert DeNero meeting Al Pacino - two grown up serious people from two different sides with mutual respect. It was well written with depth. Indian thatha rarely spoke and when he does speak, its razor sharp. Here in part 2, he explains what the villain guy did wrong, how it affected, now what varmam he is going to apply on him, the effects of it (which is clownish as well) for 15 mins on each murder and breaks the 4th wall looking for applause as in Bigg Boss. Pathetic!
9:54 You either die a hero, or u live long enough to see yourself become a joker 😂
Forward this video to Mr. Shankar... 👏
You forward 100 videos.. Avan innum thirunthala mama moment thaan.
It is actually Anniyan in disguise, Vivek character Chari is now CBI officer
Bobby simha=Prakash Raj
Kamal=Vikram
Vivek=Vivek
Hey Sudhir. Consider titling the series “late night review” than “late review”😂
th-cam.com/video/p_r7qDDKjZM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=pd0ifSZ_Uj_CAF2A 🙊🙊🙊
Sir your review interview far better then baradwaj ranggan...good job
You cannot compare an 8 minutes review to that of a 22 minutes review. Just watch them for what it is without comparisons. If you watch baradwaj ranggan's interview on why Indian 2 didn't work for ne, he would explain a lot more there.
@@is4649 Sudhir way of thinking is far better than bharatwaj
Sudhir speech is respectable
Out of the clutter of reviews online who are just spitting venom on this movie, I'm glad to see at least one sensible individual who addressed the exact pain points with such clarity ...
The execution of the scenes involving the killing of characters by Senapathy's character was so gimmicky that it trivialises the purpose of those killings ..
Also, the character of Senapathy is someone who kills out of compulsion, however in this movie he seems to sadistically enjoy them, and it snaps you out of the movie and makes you cringe..
I'm not sure why a legend like Kamal haasan would agree to such gimmicks, as there are so many directors with great stories ready to work with him..
Even if he trusts Shankar, he should have asked him to rework those scenes and write them with more imagination ..
It pains me immensely to see that a Visionary and Cinematic Genius like Kamal Haasan is saddled with stories that he doesn't deserve..
I just wish that great storytellers out there get access to Kamal Haasan Sir, and he does work that upholds the legacy he has created since the last 63 yrs..
Ji, matha reviews vidda ivar thaan bayangarama kaluvi uthi irukaar.
@@jnandam100But sila peru madhiri moonjila nera adikama , subtle a solirukaaru ......
all because of frens, money milking industry
Now what did you do? You are also talking negative only
Avanum sanghi thana bro.. sanghi sanghi friends thana
Sudhir, the quality of the movie doesn't merit a review of your class. Wow! you brought out so coherently , the angst of every 90s kid, who has Senapathy etched in their mind. The other major down point in the movie which you didn't touch upon was the music.. and the only places the music felt a little organic were those where Ani has used ARR's bits from Indian. Maybe Shankar could have made an AI listen to Indian once and then compose for this one. It would have done a much better job !
Nice to see S approaching things in a concerned way ( Not condemning way....as if he is Sankars elder bro or family member. Pointing out things in a dignified affectionate way. Being mindful of the past great films given by Sankar and Kamal.
Nov..nee romba yosikra naa idha pathi...they dint probably know how much of an impact senapathi has on us...they jut wanted to milk that character avlo dhan..short ah senapathy was massacred..RIP
One of the open hearted and best review of Indian 2 👍 I prefer to see the movie reviews of second show rahman brother and now you added on the list 🙌 All the best and waiting for your upcoming reviews👍
What a clarity👏👏👏
So far the best critique and review of this movie. Being a 90’s kid, Indian movie has a huge impact on many of us and the generation at large. It really made us think and introspect and state of corruption in the nation and triggered a sense of patriotism within us. The situation of corruption hasn’t changed much in the last 30 years. So Indian 2 was a great opportunity to trigger this emotion in the generation today. But I don’t know what happened, this opportunity was completed lost and actually ruined by this movie and the lackluster characterization of Senapathy. I don’t know if even Shankar or Kamal realize this. I don’t if the current political environment in Tamil Nadu and the influence they had on the making of this movie, played a part in it.
This sequel has only put even the original Senapathy in bad light.
It’s a pity.
Best review ever for a worst movie. You have earned a fan by this 👏🏼
Hope you get to interview Shankar in post release interview. You got the perfect points why the movie didn’t work
Full compassion, feel the same and feel almost badly especialy for the actors like Jagan, Siddarth, Samutrakani, Vivek and especially Kamal sir
மிக அருமையான விமர்சனம் தம்பி
21:10 படம் பார்க்கும் பொழுது நானும் இதையே தான் நினைத்தேன், இந்தியன் கூறும் விஷயங்களை பின்பற்றினால் ஏற்படும் நடைமுறை சிக்கல்களை இந்தப்படம் பேசியிருந்தால் இது மற்றொரு வெற்றிப்படமாக காலம் கடந்து பேசும்படமாக அமைந்திருக்கும், ஆனால் இதனை இந்த படத்தை எடுத்தவர்கள் உணரவில்லையே 👍
Anna big fan of your commentary in EURO'S keep ROCKING 🎉❤👍🏾 .
Big fan of your தமிழ் pronocation ❤ .
Super sir very honest review felt very sad to watch this part came home and saw Indian in Netflix to forget this damage.
Very sensible and non-commercial review👌
What a top notch review. Superbly detailed and captured my thoughts perfectly! well done Sudhir sir!
This video stirred more emotions and Indian nostalgia than Indian 2
honest review bro.,unga idathula vera yaru iruthalum epdi solvangala? kandippa solla matanga.,nenga different nooliban (sorry bro)
unga thaadi vetri maran sir thaadi mari romba PURE ah irukkum🤔 nu nenaikra bro...apdi irutha happy tha😊...
Vimarsagar thilakam sudhi, ❤yr reviews as always for the nuances.
👍😁..இன்று இரவு நேரலையில் சந்திப்போம்..நல்ல பொழுதுபோக்கு காத்திருக்கு..இதை மறந்துவிட்டு வாங்க..
Has it been ever felt like the world that Shankar creates or that brings on the screen become unrelatable? The world that we see in movies like Mudalvan, Indian etc felt like it's from our world in comparison to super saturated high coloured world of Indian 2, I, 2.0, etc. That world itself is alien to us.
I was thinking .. These young generation, believing he probably died. Tried to recreate him using his techniques. (Like Pyscho killer films, how some other pyscho will try and emulate that) Then suddenly their cover is taken and at the brink of the moment really Indian Thatha comes and saves them and takes responsibility and guides them like Ramana Vijayakanth rather than taking into his own hands.
This sounds like a better story.
Give this man the fucking budget lyca gave shanker. Let this man make Indian 2
Taipei la Anniyan oda sethu ‘I’ uhm pathutaro xD lol
If this V2 was done by Rajinikanth or Balakrishna , it would not be criticised this much. I am wondering how KH agreed to do this script. Million dollar question!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Genuine and Brilliant review Sudhir !!!!
INDIAN 2 = FIRST HALF ( 3 HRS )
INDIAN 3 = 2ND HALF ( 3 HRS )
TOTAL = 6 HOUR MOVIE
Very clear points. Many others are just trolling which is also just due to Kamal's politics. Sudhir is just deeply disappointed.
1000th Like.. Nice Review/Roast.. Same style like Second Show, Kaki's Talkies and little Tamil Talkies.
😃
The best advice to salvage this movie:
Announce that Indian 2 is a spoof movie of Indian 1. People will laugh at all the scenes, and business will go through the roof!
Even the scene that slightly worked for you did absolutely not work at all for me. While that scene is playing out , i was forced to contemplate with questioning the reasons that could justify it and i couldnt it find anything convincing rather it was so illogical and far fetched and over dramatised like a tv serial that completely took me out of that emotion and made it look like a joke.
With respect to that portion :
*First of all , One could find it hard to swallow that Sidarth was completely oblivious to the fact his dad was corrupt right until the moment in life indian thatha has advised him to expose his family. especially when they have such a good bonding and close knit , clearly there would have been hint since from childhood that his dad's income and his financial backing ratio would have been way off .
*when the dad was getting arrested it appears that mom did not have a single iota of conscience that all those years that she enjoyed the life was out of corrupt money , even after his son makes a very long justification , she doesnt seem to care about it at all . She only seems to worry that her husband got arrested and then she decided to take her life.
*The way everyone made sure his son doesnt see her mom face during final rituals was down right joke, and that scene played out right from sun tv mega serial . There is no way anyone could stand in a way even by law , this is utterly unbelievable some random distant relatives were acting as bouncers to thrown him away from his own from from seeing his mom.
The total scene was felt very forced and placed only for the purpose of creating a reason to send indian back , even for that reason it failed miserably.
I mean what was even shankar thinking and how did it passed through all those who were in the creative department to okay this !!! The whole nation was caught on to this misconstrued idea and blamed indian for it and started chasing him every corner to the point of publicly pelting him with stones ??? I mean cmon , TO Me Shankar's prime has gone after Sivaji .
Excellent review!
Weirdly came to this review for condolences.
Shankar(despite his flaws ) is one of the most successful Tamil director , Kamal (assumingly) never chose a script without any real challenges, has decided to make THIS movie.
On any level they couldn't have thought this film is good, if they did I am sad that they had such a cognitive decline . If they thought it's a miserable filem , and still pushed this bad film , I am sad that we trusted them.
Right relevant comments
I heard it from some of my friends once that , SHANKAR's contribution is very minimal for any of his films. It's all about assistant directors who give the idea and all nuances.. Now it's proven one more time. He is nothing without SUJATHA and good ADs .... He became outdated a way before, since his Robo film.
அப்ப பெயரை மட்டும் தட்டிச் செல்வார் பிரமாண்ட இயக்குனர் என்று.
Yes , Endhiran ( Robot ) was the last good film he made .....
Maniratnam in Katru Velliyidai
This can be seen to be very true. Without KV Anand, Atlee etc Shankar is outdated. Shankar is actually a scam if that's true.
#ShankarExposed
ennathayachu olarikitu😂😂😂
You are one of the most intellectual reviewers! Good effort!
As a hardcore fan of Kamal from my childhood, got upset watching this film.
Makeup is became a mask literally a mask for Kamal’s face.
No emotional moments works except Siddharth mother suicide and related scenes…
Political awareness w.r.t to social justice is lacking in all Shankar’s movie, even I prepared for it while going to the movie. Still his vague vision towards a society surprises me, how come a man who done many political genre films not having basics of socio economic development.
Shankar doesn’t learned or understand anything from writer Sujatha it seems.
Dialogues are very childish effortless writing.
Shankar is not only apolitical his views and thoughts on genders shows his ignorance…
I think Indian 3 also will have the same issues mentioned above…
Waiting of Thug Life 😒
Indian 1 senapathy- character crafted by sujatha Indian 2 thatha crafted by Shankar. That's the difference. The man who created and understand a golden character like senapathy will not spoil his authenticity like this
Hi Sudhir. I agree to your views. Problem I feel in this movie. Story known to everyone and need to make universal movie.
But I watched the trimmed version which was ok for me.
Concept of finding and exploring your family surrounding issues. Which really good one.
Good sir thank you
I had written a couple of days ago that there is a dearth of good clever film reviews on Tamil and also other Indian languages .
With this late review , l think l may have to re view my comments!
In the 60's I used to refer to reviews in magazines like Kumudham, Vikadan and Kalki. But now, I feel they have kind of democratised the process and let the partisan diehard fans coming our of the cinema halls on the first week of the release of the.film to deliver the final.verdict !
You exactly mirrored my mind voice. 🤝
Director means writing than important
i was glad to see your analyzing on how this fails as a sequel specifically. also glad you brought up that “acting like a girl” i didn’t see anyone else talk about that
watched indian 2 otha movie fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥 daa...evan da nalla illanu sonathu .. corrupted tharkuris....chennai is the worst corrupted place ...thats y people ass is burning.... Movie is commercially rocking
Correct ta Sonna bro padam Massss 🔥🔥. Interval scene la 🔥🔥
I watched this movie in US and felt the same as there is no lip sync….when you said the same… back home also if they did the same it’s mere insane!! Taking viewers lightly is a pathetic thought!! I totally agree with your views man!!
As a ardent fan of Kamal, You expressed my view of review!
Excellent brother...very unique and researchable review... Looking at this review, I feel that various things that appeared in my mind came out through you. Great work ...keep going on...As a Kamal hasan fan..
Enna pa JEYAMOHAN இந்த எடுத்துவெச்சுட்டு MANJUMAL BOYS மொக்கனு சொல்லுறா 😂😂😂 .
PUNCH DIALOGUE ❌
CRINGE DIALOGUE ✅
உங்கள் தமிழ் நல்ல இருக்கு நண்பரே
Unga nermayana riveiw valtthukkal🎉
With Kamal and Shankar's experience, they should have known what to include in the movie. There are too many repetitive scenes, and no substantial development for almost all characters, including Senapathy. The interval, climax, and Senapathy's introduction were lackluster. Making it a two-part movie just to increase revenue was a bad choice, as trimming at least 60 minutes wouldn't make a difference. They need to learn not to take the audience for granted.
Good review 👍🏻👍🏻 Sprit illadha sequel. Thatha watched Anniyan, I in Taipei and came back doing boomer things 😂
Naan ninachatha apdiye soliteega. Intha movie ku senapathy thevai ila or last Siddharth portion than whole movie concept mathathu ellam periya OP adichutaru shankar.
More sensible sudhir ... It's great work 👏
Late review on second day 😂😂 yes every reviewer has roasted this movie .. watching it for Sudhir's wit
Bro Shankar outdated illa but therila avar epdi avaroda fansku ipdilam podikumnu ninacharu
superb review
None of shankars movie have aged well. If you rewatch most of his comedy, romantic scenes are complete cringe , his actors tend to ham, over act and hyper-react !! Even indian1 urmila scenes were so unnecessary and damn cringe
100%
Sudhir Srinivasan's The Roast.
It really took more than a day to realise that Indian 2 is a complete letdown for a movie which once considered the best work of SHANKAR sir & KAMAL sir which earned accolades and attained a cult status.
Maybe an excitement watching a "SHANKAR" sir's movie on a big screen after a long gap since 2.0 might have been the reason for this late realisation.
It started off well unraveling the plot of
"Comeback INDIAN" with justified leads, but then it all started to crumble and fell like a pack of cards that we rarely witness in a SHANKAR sir's movie with the most talented KAMAL sir too involved when he is currently at a commercial peak.
There were too many lead and supporting cast who did their best to shoulder the plot which wasn't enough to save the already outdated plot.
The main plot of "COMEBACK INDIAN" later got down to a point "GO-BACK INDIAN" when a series of events unfolded itself with a weak and tiresome screenplay which kind of struck very odd to be honest.
Though there were a few high moments which got elevated only because of AR Rahman sir's original INDIAN BGM's and not the original composer Anirudh. This is by far his weakest and least impact work of his career unfortunately.
The climax was chosen to be open ending with a lead for INDIAN 3 making it feel mixed emotions about this classic and leaving us with no choice.
Verdict : The curse of sequel 2.0 is still a myth to be broken even for AANDAVAR.
Roast oh Roast special recipe from Sudhir 🤣
Wow super ji I thin some plot points you said will come in indian 3 but overall this movie could have been made just like you said totally agree. Don't know what shankar cooked during covid it's half baked and hard to swallow.
Unit of distance I think that was intentional intellectual bit from sir
Good review
If you have delayed one or two days...the film would have been on OTT...
I wonder how Kamalhaasan accepted the story?
They know how to promote the movie with the help of social media but they didnt realise how it gives back when it is not upto mark. maybe second mistake they did after the movie.
What if ?
This movie was edited int0 a hour only.
Like removing the unwanted stuff
(Tjose are, * reduce kamal's comical portio, * focus on only chitra aravindan portion, * redus killing and lecturing portion, *minimal usage stunt).
Is this bring indian 2 first half as fair mov?
and yes where is Sukanya ? She also lost her children
Thalaivan eay kadupethetengala da 😤 Ivaru ivlo harsh ah review pani romba naal aachi. Apdi eduthu vachi irukenga.
Atlee would have taken INDIAN 2
Ivlo naala twitter news pannitu iruntha thatha, vera news paathu ethum pannalaiya, comeback indian pota mattum than varuvara
Nice review (roast)
Shankar is missing Sujatha badly!
Writing is missing in Shankar movies currently
To write all the things that are bad about this movie, youtube won't allow the limits of characters. May be one word: Udhayanidhi.
👍👍👍👍👍👍
Why rely on old dialogues - even vikram had 'ningge nallavara kettavara' so key is script n crisp editing, not money grab by stretching one movie into 2 - makes shankar n kollywood look weak vs ss rajamouli and Tollywood
Indha movie announcement pannapo enna ninachena current situation la nasakkura problems ku Meendum murder panraru adhe pattern murder ah retire cbi krishnaswamy identify panni, avaroda point of view la Meendum story travel aagumnu ninachen, without substance disappointed from Shankar sir, i hope he will comeback with quality script
This is not late review. Why don’t you do review of good English movies suggesting audience to watch. Example, intern, Couples retreat, Her etc
Brilliant review !! 1st time ever hated Kamal’s scenes…. Embarrassing…
I mean Shankar is for sure zoned out, he talks abt govt office corruption. Ok fine it still exists. But viewers here are used to people like Dhruv rathee. Who exposes big fishes. Guy who complains about his uncle who runs highway hotel scenes reminded me of Gopi sudhagar’s bus pavangal. People enjoy their content. Viewers did not demand for great visuals or anything. Just a green mat. They just wanted a content where every youth can relate to. Same goes here. No one gives damn abt the bad guy’s golden adobe. (I know Shankar has that stupid grandeur fetish or something) But they care about proper human emotions. One tweet comeback Indian.. everyone does it. Suddenly one demise go back Indian hash tag immediately all hate Indian thatha.. for gods sake they’re real people not some dummy robots following a psychopath cult. Is this ur real understanding abt current society?
One more part 2 furniture destroyed
Kadha illadha kaaranathil
Kadha_ral
Irundhuirukkaru illai irukkaru..
Nuance # Shankar
1000 crore loading...😂😂😂
IN MY OPINION: ALLEGEDLY CORRUPTED GANG PRODUCING "ELIMINATING CORRUPTION movie"" : POTENTIALLY ELIMINATE INDIAN 2 MOVIE THEN ALLEGEDLY 50% CORRUPTED GONE
Desam nasa pola. Desam urupada ve illa😂😂
எனக்கு என்ன ஆச்சிரியம் என்றால் பழுத்த கமல் எப்படி இப்படிபட்ட திரைகதையை ஒப்புக்கொண்டார் என்பதுதான்???படத்தையும் அவர் வேடத்தையும் சங்கர் சொல்லும்போதே அவருக்கு இது சரிபடாது என்ரு தோன்றவில்லையா??
இதற்காகத்தான் RKFI production உருவானது....இதில் அவர் தவறு எதுவும் இல்லை....ஷங்கர் சில நேரம் கைக்கூலி ஆகி விடுகிறார்....
actually the real problem is shanker and team planned to make Indian 2 as single film. but he has taken almost 5hours of footage and the budget has gone high over the limits and they were facing lot of issues. but later they planned to make it as 2 parts so that they can get the money what they have spent. That is were there was a clash between kamal, shanker and producer almost the movie was planned to drop. but after vikram movie success they planned to work and release with udhay's help. Kamal himself said in the interview he agreed to act Indian 2 because of Indian 3 only. he gave the hint
You had not responded to me on X. Not even an honorable mention of Sujatha sir and, evidently, how his contribution to part 1 was crucial which is clearly missing in Indian 2??!! Come on, Sudhir!!
He is not entitled to reply to you, me or any internet warriors.
Exactly not many realise that it was Sujatha behind Shankar's success. Sujatha illama Shankar is kuppai. And after Indian 2 reviews I realise many did not know about Sujatha's works or contribution to Shankar movies
@@PK-pz9ku dei ass yes Sujatha did his best ,bt without shankar you cant visualize the movie , he has good movies on his own too
@@rameshsk5332Agreed! There was a specific video on cinema express before the movie's release discussing how nuanced part 1's writing was. I am expecting it from him because the lack of intellectual and emotional connect with the audience is apparent. I know am a nobody but Sudhir is not. He's literally one of the most respected reviewers.
Nalla riveiw 😂
ஏன் சாமி 22 நிமிடத்தோட நிறுத்திட்ட! பேசு இன்னும் பேசு உன் உலகசினிமா அறிவை கொட்டு
intha padam kuppai than. but Jigarthanda double X yena da sequel? yethaachum continutuity irukaa? name ah use panirukaan
It's not sequel that's prequel
Shankar never did any Good Film
That's too much. He did some exceptional movies until enthiran. After that none of the movies worked
@@musicplagiaristcatcher1931in a way it is true Shankar never did any good film . Only Sujatha did . Films like Indian-1 , Anniyan , mudhalvan were good only because of Sujatha . Without Sujatha's writing all of shankars other films have been barely mediocre at best
@@dandanakadon7779dei sunni wt about gentleman, kadhalan
@@dandanakadon7779I disagree with you. Shankar-Sujatha were the reason for the success. Script is one of the essential elements for a good film. For example:The Spanish remake of Breaking Bad. It only had a good script and look how crappy it looks. Shankar gave the life to the script written by him and Sujatha
@@krishnakumar.k3051 gentleman screenplay was Sujatha . Kadhalan was okay movie only . It was hit because of prabhu deva dance and vadivelu's exceptional comedy . mathabadi nothing new or great in that
We know sanker outdated cringe director 10 years back. late.