Single Turbo 5.4 vs Coyote Swapped 5.0!!
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- In today's video we race my single turbo 5.4 against Pats Coyote 5.0 swap. Such great races! Check it out and let me know what you think!
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That was the sickest race I’ve ever seen between two speedometers
Holy crap, that was way closer than I thought! Awesome video and great idea!
Thanks Mo!
Sweeeeet! Awesome trucks and awesome races. Can’t believe how close they were with such different platforms.
I know!! Insanely close for completely different trucks!
The sound of the coyote at 7K RPM superimposed with the turbo from gramps is beautiful
Couldn’t agree more!
I’d have to say... consider a 6/10 speed swap. SOMEBODY has to do one sooner or later in one of these older beasts of trucks.
planning to do that swap on my lightning whenever the stock trans goes out.
@@TheGuyWhoDidUrM0M hell yeah
@@moose2934 its a pretty simple swap from what I researched. a 6 speed 6r80 will bolt on directly to the 5.4 and a custom drive shaft will be needed. ussshift sells a stand alone controller and then a tunner has to take out the trans from the tune as if you were running a manual trans.
@@TheGuyWhoDidUrM0M Sir, that may have well of been Swahili … I don’t know what in the shit you just said 😂🤣… I get the gist of it… but not the specifics - I have buddies who work for beer for anything below the intake manifold
@@moose2934 you have some good friends right there. If I could pay for the swap in beer i would of already done it lol
Silver fox valve body in the stock trans will help a ton. They’re awesome. Then when you pull the motor you can rebuild it with better parts and a converter.
Also great job winning 3 out of 4 runs against a lighter truck with way newer technology and better fuel.
Alright, I’m slappin a turbski on this ole 5.4!
5.0 coyote is cool but seeing a 5.4 2v pretty much keep up with a 5.0 is something else. First time seeing your channel, are all these videos pretty much a step by step tutorial?
Same here
Hey! Thanks man! Yes. I documented the whole series and there’s a list of all the parts in the description.
i agree, ppl love having on the 2v but it can def hold it's own, when ppl realize they got beat by a 2v Ford ppl get that, "my shit just got shoved up my throat" look in their face, i love it..lol
Dude when I graduate and get another car, I'm gonna build my 5.4 3 valve and see how she does.
3v is regarded as the worst engine ever made
@@detroitmichigan3159 I know some say that but the GM Northstar is the worst engine ever made.
@Detroit Michigan who cares, it won't be if u build the engine with performance parts
Look at Patrick getting some exposure! Sweet
Dude that’s awesome I got the exact same truck same color and just as clean love this build the truck is my only stock vehicle.
That was great looks like the ole 5.4 won that!
Yessir 5.4 never disappoints those new f250s doe they smashing on everything out here lol
your videos are making me want to do some unholy things to my 10th gen f150 lmao
HOLY SHIT THIS IS THE CONTENT I SUBBED FOR. Looks like your truck is running real even with my 2016 ecoboost. I’m stock with a cat back exhaust, but that’s crazy man. Keep it up! 🙌🏾🔥
Never clicked on a TH-cam video so damn fast!!!! 🤘🤘🤘
I appreciate that Scott!
Heavy valve springs, a little higher duration cam, and up the limiter. Along with full forged bottom end, keep boost at 12 and your golden. Also jmod the 4r70w
Make sure differentials are good, check fluid and such.
Yeah, I should probably do that.
Dangit, I really do need to get myself a dragy... Great content, my vote is still for Gramps!
Yes you do! It’s fun to play around with and portable enough to test things that have no business being tested.😂
Wow the 5.4 held up that wild. But if he was supercharged he’d probably eat gramps
Pretty cool! I’m thinking of pulling my 4.6L out of mine and putting in a 5.4L
I wouldn't. The 4,6 can make plenty of power. Check out MMRs built blocks for the 4.6.
I just witnessed a turbo triton 5.4 smoke that 5.0 coyote pack
Gramps is heavier and still ran with the coyote. I'm impressed with the times, stock lighting in 03 ran 14.0s from the factory in a regular cab lighter 2wd. I think your truck is doing great
To sum up my replies on others comments, i'd go to pic n pull and grab front amd rear 3.73 factory differential instead of paying almost $3k to rebuild and throw on a throttle body elbow and throttle body from a v10 or accufab throttle body. These are 2 big differences for less than $400
I wonder how much worse a 4.6 would be with this setup. Any thoughts?
Time for the J-Mod to get those shifts crisp
I’d say let the thing rev out too 6k. And try going to a 4r100.
6k rpms would kill my stock rods. I’m toying with the idea of 4r100 or 6r80
@@AutoDetour definitely go with a 6r80 and manual trans controller would be quite a handful to drive and amazing
Absolutely great Job what muffler is on gramps?
A Mustang sure would look awfully nice parked next to Gramps!
So are you still getting water in the catch can?? I still don't get where all the condensation is coming from. Super curious.
How much did it cost to complete your turbo project and is it clearly better than a supercharger?
You could probably do a shift kit and change the shift points, and maybe do a different rear gear for better acceleration, another thing you could potentially do is lower the car with better suspension to increase your 0-60 time. Another potential thing you could do to the truck is get bigger wheels and tires for better traction, other than that I don't know any other way for improvement. You could probably put some cobra parts on the truck like a a throttle body and maybe intake manifold or something idk if it would fit but its an idea. Anyways I liked the video man, keep up the work! :)
Thanks! I’m also thinking a higher stall converter should help. I appreciate the input!
Yea i was looking into different builds and one I came up with is a lightning style throttle body which is dual blade 57mm instead of single 73-75mm. Amd 24lbs injectors NA. The lightning throttle body is the same for the navigator, cobra, and.... The v10. The v10 is the best donor to get from because the throttle elbow mounts the exact same as the 5.4l on the intake manifold side. And if you get the elbow you could upgrade to accufab single blade oval throttle body. Youll just have to reroute the intake pipe due to all v10 throttle elbows are curved to deiver side. Hope that helps.
Good oil pump and mhs cams you can rev that 5.4 out and power wont drop off until 6400
Even you not have good trasmision you truck is realy good good work y love you truck.😊
Have you thought about methanol and water injection to keep charge temps down in your intake? Might not be much but it would possibly increase efficiency of boost.
I haven’t, but that’s a good thought!
I have an 01 that I'm slowly doing stuff to and I have some stuff planned for mine that could possibly help you. I know you said traction is an issue you could do traction bars like caltracs I'm planning on ladder bars in the rear for adjustable pinion for pre loading. I also have a 3 inch drop in the front and a 4 inch drop in the rear to lower center of gravity. I am planning on a twin turbo setup with methanol and water injection. Also a rear and front diff regear could help your times.
Do you have a complete list for the swap
Need some good tires and a 4r100 or 6r80 not sure what the process of making that work with the 5.4 but it would be worth it
Is that a 2v, 3v, or 4v? I currently have a 3v but I’m dreaming of the 4v supercharged
I have a question I just bought a f150 2005 5.4 what do I do to change the factory spark plugs so it's not the two or three piece spark
How hard is it to swap a 5.4 with a 5.0?
id save my money and get an ecoboost 3.5 do the swap and its very fun ive got a 2105 f150 3.5 stage 3 turbos headers downpipe and intercooler a coldair intake tuned with e85 and its a beast. will be testing at the track
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Haha! Far from famous, but I appreciate you man!
Am liking the 2003 Ford F-150.
I really was expecting a race
Are running stock top and bottom end on this still
You should get a 4r100 trani from a lightning and upgrade it to support more power if that trani is capable of fitting on this 5.4 without a supercharger I think it should fit right in
I've thought about doing a 4r100 out of an expedition so I can keep the 4x4. I'd have to get rid of the 4x4 to run a Lightning trans. I really want to do a 6r80 when this one goes.
4wd is strooong!
No doubt you are suffering from the torque converter slipping, and of course the low stall.
Gearing is way too high and needs to be 4:10-4:30 final drive adjusted for tire size.
Without major engine mods you are limited.
Cams could help a bit but be careful using stock valve train parts.
You are at the limit of stock motor power without spending some $$$ for rods/pistons/bore/ported heads.
Water/meth is not a terrible idea with the current setup.
Where did you. Buy your tubo parts
the rev limiter you should set it to 5900 ish rpm, I know that 2 valve should handle a little more then 5k
Link to the turbo?
How much did the 5.4 build cost???
Sell me your 2 valve for my 04 ford e250? Or could you detail me everything I would need to get my 5.4 to where yours is?. Thanks
Got an update on that 5.4!?
The coyote is the newer dash?
Honestly man the 3.55s and the 4 speed are whats killing ya.. When you install the built motor I'd put in some 4.10s or 3.73s
Yea i had a 99 5.4l f150 with 3.55 and now an 03 f150 with stock 3.73. And just the small gear change makes a hugeee difference! Definitely swap gears man! You can probably grab stock 3.73 axles at any pic n pull. Just look at axle codes
@@dyllanbabb7472 my truck has 3.73s stock. I've thought about putting in 4.30s
@@roberth912 oh I was telling the original poster of the video that. I was going to do the same but they dont make 4.30 for our front differential or the ford 8.8 front differential so we're stuck with 4.10 or 4.56
@@dyllanbabb7472 what??? No way I'm a big Ford guy and never knew that
@@dyllanbabb7472 shit I feel like the jump from 3.73 to 4.10 wouldn't be worth it and 4.56 is too low gearing I feel like you'd have no top end especially in a truck
13.6 fast streetable heavy truck...20hp nos kit
You could probably get a shift kit
You guys should link up sometime in the future
I agree!
I was thinking that truck would be a lot faster than that but I guess it’s true spinning not winning. I think I would have keep the tailgate & spare tire for the weight.
Still doing videos? Last one was a year ago I’m just wonder ring what happens. Good luck over there.
Just meet up with pac and both of you run em just on 91 octane and both in 2wd and maybe some drag tires or just stock wheel size from 97-03 f150
Hey mate I have a question, I have a 2003 lincoln navigator with the same engine, and currently, it's cracked and I'm planning on swapping the engine and I'd like to know what is the exact engine measurements and if I could put the new ford 7.3L Godzilla into it. On the ford website, I can find the exact measurements for the engine but I can't find the exact measurements for the 5.4 triton.
When you do your swap send me your 5.4
You can fit a 6r80 in your truck. You just need an external controller for it
Shift kit in trans
6r80 swap would be a nice addition
What octain fuel are you running in the turbo 5.4L?
I’m running 93 right now
Custom grind turbo cams trickflow heads
I have a 05 F150 w/ the 5.4. Been thinking of doing the coyote swap vs building the 5.4 anyone have any thoughts on this? My truck is a pre-runner and made for the dirt.
Build that (3v??) !! Don't spend $10+k on a stock Coyote when you can put that money to good use n save a couple of thousands of $$$ while having a stronger engine with boost at 1k hp.. I'm a 2v guy so i'd build me a 5.4L 2v, but the 3v makes a bit more power..
Is there a way you can make the truck shift at 6500rpm
Oh yeah, but the stock rods don’t like anything much higher than 5,500, so it would probably blow to pieces pushing the rpms that high.
Does you're Turbo 5.4L SOHC 2V Triton V8 have an electric fan or does it still uses a factory clutch fan.
I installed electric fans to make room for the charge piping.
@@AutoDetour Awesome brother.
Need a cam kit and a good tune
Does a normal 5.0 run like that? I don’t feel like it would
Stock not normal
Let’s see single turbo 5.4 vs stock 10 speed mustang gt
Better trans, higher stall, then gears that will max out mph through the quarter
Built motor time!
i want for mine!
Trans and converter 👌
I have a ton of ideas that I wanna do but can't financially 😔😂😂 but man, do a shift correction kit on the trans, will improve speed and smoother and quicker shifts. Its a $50 dollar kit. Another thing is, get a 80mm throttle body. I have one and my truck is n/a but it definitely pulls better. Ditch the fan cluth and get electric ones, lightweight crank pulleys. And install high performance ignition coils. And best upgrade you can do, is tire upgrade 🤣
I already have electric fans to make room for the charge pipe, but a shift kit seems like it might be next.
@@AutoDetour ohh, guess I didn't pay that much attention to notice 😅😅 but yeah that'll definitely improve speed. And a 80mm throttle body, I bought one that is made for the 4.6 mustang and basically customized it to fit my 5.4 but I'd highly recommend
I can attest to the performance coils making a difference. Long story short I accidently got accel 3v coils for my 2v not paying attention(which they're rated for higher voltages, so lucked out) and ran them for couple years but then switched to the Msd street fire i believe, the red ones. And man what a difference over accel not just in performance but quality too. When i first installed the accel coils I changed the plugs knowing it would give me back some power, but wasnt expecting a significant gain like I got. So definitely helps. Also make sure theres no slack in throttle cable from inside the cab. Look under dash as very tip top of gas pedal where the cable attaches. Then you simply lift up on the gas pedal until it reaches full extension and see if theres slack. If so, add zip ties in a row to take up slack. One obvious way you can tell is if the gas pedal sits way lower in line with than brake pedal. My father in laws expedition was shifting odd, constantly in and out of overdrive when accelerating, didnt have a ton of torque. He had over 1in of slack so we threw 3 zip ties on it. And now shifting perfectly, and way more down low grunt with quicker throttle response. Man he was tickled pink like we threw on 6lbs of boost😅
@@dyllanbabb7472 I got my coils on amazon lmao but I sold the old f150 a while back now
@@danielcastro8012 lol those are usually a ticking time bomb. I've seen some go for 3-6 months if they work out the box lol
A JMOD would help tremendously and cheap to do.
Let’sssss goooo
Probably some meaty tires and drive train because more power is not useful if you can't put it down or use it reliably
Your next project should be a 5.4 3v
Heads and cams
why would anyone downgrade from a 5.4 to a 5.0
Imagine if pat swapped a 10r80 into it…
before the video finishes I don't think you can out run a 10speed.
Since there is basically no difference to brag about between the two, I say leave it well enough alone before you blow something up.
6R80 in that sucker would be deadly, 6 gears would be the perfect match for your motor you'd have a way better power band instead of having to lug down too 3500 every shift and you don't have to push through those tall ass gears so hard
Gears all the way around
6R80 swap it , the transmission can handle 1000+ horsepower
I love this idea. I need to make sure I can keep the 4wd.
i know a ford guy that has a ls swap
Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!! lol.. ;)
5.3 waooooo
Save up 3 speed powerglide
Swap your gearing to a 4.10 or 4.56 it will make your truck insane
It's boosted he would never be able to catch traction long gears are way better for boost
@@chrishansen7004 I have a very similar set up to what he runs except 4v heads and a manual trans and it made my truck a 100 time more fun to drive except on the hwy
6R80 swap Gramps!!
Will a 6R80 bolt up to the 5.4? If so, I have some questions. LOL
Strongly agree!
Don't know about a 6R80 but a 4R100 definately will. It might suck up some of your horsepower but it is WAY more stout than 4R70.
There’s a guide for swapping a 6R80 into a 99-04 Mustang. They use 2v engines and 4R70W transmissions as well.
@@AutoDetour you can get a 6r80 from an 09-10 5.4 F150. Believe 5.4 Expeditions around 06-14 too. Then you get an aftermarket controller. I have had a couple boosted 5.4s and the 4r100 just shifts way better under power than even the multiple different built 4r70ws I tried.
Get another truck for the other drivetrain. Leave Gramps alone, except the shifting.
Transmission, lower her, drag radials in rear and lighter wheels
And front lol solid mounts will help and maybe meth injection
@@anthonyortiz4538 The whole point of Gramps is that he looks stock...
@@ruggedrebel5727 I know what the point is I just think it has so much more potential Thanks for being captain obvious
@@anthonyortiz4538 Not argueing, I was just saying that incase you didn't know. He knows it just as much as anybody that if he wanted to he could make it a full on drag truck. He already gets that but wants to keep the exterior stock.
Im sure if you can think of mods that are internal that it would be much more useful to him.
Once again, Not worth agueing about. All the kids nowadays just want to start an arguement over anything.
@@ruggedrebel5727 my bad brother, the ... at the end had never thinking sarcasm it’s hard to judge emotion through text my apologies I get what you’re saying
Run e85 in gramps
Next engine I definitely will!🤘🏻
Coyote needs a tubro
That wasnt a race 😳
U pull just as hard at 4k as he does 6k. With less gears ect. Get the 6 speed and upgraded intervals and ur gonna scream
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