Need for Speed: Undercover - Retrospective

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  • @soyunmanco4701
    @soyunmanco4701 ปีที่แล้ว +1401

    The game was fun but once you grow up it's like all the fun things are gone and the only thing left is suffering.

    • @mitchelldiedrich
      @mitchelldiedrich  ปีที่แล้ว +269

      just remember that, if the game came out only a few years later, it is a 100% fact that Pitbull would have been all over the soundtrack. we narrowly avoided disaster

    • @joeydiedrich
      @joeydiedrich ปีที่แล้ว +95

      You've unintentionally just described living tbh

    • @SchizoidRambler
      @SchizoidRambler ปีที่แล้ว +27

      ​@@joeydiedrich so what you're saying is nfs undercover is life

    • @iamFastYY
      @iamFastYY ปีที่แล้ว +14

      ​@Poizonous God if life identifies as nfs, than yes.

    • @gunman8452
      @gunman8452 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@SchizoidRambler Truly the game of life

  • @marquaviouschester6947
    @marquaviouschester6947 ปีที่แล้ว +340

    "the police are comically large"
    says the guy driving the smallest car in the game

    • @Halagini
      @Halagini 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Tru lol. Drive the Elise in MC3 versus SUVs and it looks comically small.

    • @NaruSanavai
      @NaruSanavai 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Halagini I mean, the Elise (and Lotuses, in general) are pretty small. Like, if you're above 5'7" - good luck getting in and out of one.

    • @dmer-zy3rb
      @dmer-zy3rb หลายเดือนก่อน

      my wife says the Elise is average sized though and generally the size isnt important 😢

  • @unreallincoln
    @unreallincoln ปีที่แล้ว +455

    "If I didn't care about having fun I wouldn't play need for speed, I'd play Forza" killed me lmaooooooooooo

    • @brawler5760
      @brawler5760 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      At least I can have SOME fun with Forza man…

    • @StarlightLancer01
      @StarlightLancer01 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      Until you remember that Forza Horizon is basically a watered down, non-progressive Test Drive Unlimited lmao

    • @ChugLife544
      @ChugLife544 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I played Forza horizon...and it's broring if you don't have a steering wheel or play with friends.

    • @hugopereira5640
      @hugopereira5640 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      ​@@ChugLife544 Forza Horizon 3 is a hell of a lot more fun than NFS games LMAO Beautiful map, city, atmosphere.

    • @liesideways
      @liesideways ปีที่แล้ว +3

      buut i liek fortza 🥺

  • @hawken796
    @hawken796 ปีที่แล้ว +748

    This game suffered through development hell. This game was originally called nfs the chase and was planned around a month before most wanted shipped. The original plan was to make a sequel to most wanted and then make the chase, but their forced yearly schedule tied their hands and prostreet was the filler game in between so the main team could finish the chase. During that time, blackbox was also working on NBA Playgrounds and Skate, so they were crunched pretty hard. That's the main reason this game is the way it is. Also, the story was originally supposed to have branching choices and multiple endings, but since they had to rush the game out, they just used whatever material they finished and called it a day. This really could have been the greatest nfs game if they had more time to finish it.

    • @luisortega8085
      @luisortega8085 ปีที่แล้ว +141

      didnt they also have to develop carbon and prostreet at the same time
      god i hate ea

    • @mikblues_146
      @mikblues_146 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      @@luisortega8085 Yeah that's why Carbon is so damn slow and Prostreet is buggy as hell

    • @lordeilluminati
      @lordeilluminati ปีที่แล้ว +62

      @@mikblues_146 ProStreet is very buggy if you play the PS2 version. I played the other versions and they are nowhere near as problematic.

    • @hawken796
      @hawken796 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      ​@@luisortega8085 yeah at that time, EA was awful due to their old CEO. I feel like they've been better lately

    • @luisortega8085
      @luisortega8085 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@hawken796 i wish carbon and undercover got remade, also nfs mw 2012

  • @cinimini4854
    @cinimini4854 ปีที่แล้ว +659

    No matter how screwed up this game is, it was my Need For Speed while growing up and I will forever cherish it

    • @Jubejabba
      @Jubejabba 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Same! I traded my copy on 360 for Red dead redemption when i was a kid, still regret it

    • @Hydraboss343
      @Hydraboss343 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Same i played it on the ps3 and i remember having a great time. Today i found it after many years and am currently playing it it is good

    • @tone-xl6me
      @tone-xl6me 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@@JubejabbaNah, Rdr1 is fucking beautiful. Probably the best open world ever to be released aside from elderscroll games.

    • @laszlonagy02
      @laszlonagy02 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same

    • @JounChef
      @JounChef 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@Jubejabbacan't regret ever trading it for Red Dead Redemption, I won't even regret trading any NFS game for it

  • @gunman8452
    @gunman8452 ปีที่แล้ว +398

    Undercover has many flaws, but one thing it excelled at was the soundtrack, especially the garage music. To this day the garage music is peak NFS imo

    • @ralphlorenzperolino3054
      @ralphlorenzperolino3054 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      I have to say that Black Box did it right about the Busted scenes. They we're brutal as hell. Especially when that one cop throws you a Dunkin' Donut.

    • @pardolagames8994
      @pardolagames8994 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      As a Pendulum fan, I agree

    • @Maximus6G
      @Maximus6G ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Blackbox always chose the best music to fit their NFS games. Too bad Undercover wasn't that great itself.

    • @nikobellic3526
      @nikobellic3526 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      ​@@pardolagames8994 I STILL FEEL LIKE HOME IS IN.......YOUR ARMSSSSS

    • @pardolagames8994
      @pardolagames8994 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@nikobellic3526 JOIN THE CIRCUS OF PEOPLE

  • @ileutur6863
    @ileutur6863 ปีที่แล้ว +229

    Undercover is actually an amazing example of how important the choice of game engine. Think about it, Undercover has the exact same mechanics and gameplay elements as the most successful NFS games. On paper its a copy paste success, but because of the ridiculous stiff handling it ends up being a mess

    • @HulluJanne
      @HulluJanne ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Wasn't the "handling model" called something like "Heroic" or something? It was printed on the box where they hyped it up. I remember feeling like, "hopefully it's not too arcade compared to ProStreet"... The hype text gave me a feeling that they wanted to steer clear from the ProStreet's more mellow and weighty feel.

    • @eniweii
      @eniweii ปีที่แล้ว +16

      No the handling on undercover is based on prostreet. Mw and carbon have totally different handling physics.

    • @divinehatred6021
      @divinehatred6021 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Its like a worsened version of prostreet with almost of all of assists turned on and buffed, pro street is the best on pc if you turn all the assists off

    • @deividaspetrauskas3768
      @deividaspetrauskas3768 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      man this is game is still amazing

    • @divinehatred6021
      @divinehatred6021 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@HulluJanne also prosteet unironically does have the best handling in series except shift 2 which is not even an NFS

  • @PgIsBoss
    @PgIsBoss ปีที่แล้ว +163

    Them arrest scenes 🤣

    • @mitchelldiedrich
      @mitchelldiedrich  ปีที่แล้ว +92

      the doughnut throw makes me laugh every single time.

    • @NarranSkigianProductions
      @NarranSkigianProductions ปีที่แล้ว +5

      😂😂😂😆

    • @PgIsBoss
      @PgIsBoss ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@mitchelldiedrichhahaha I love how violent the police get but yes the doughnut scene finished me off!

    • @RandomCarfromNFS
      @RandomCarfromNFS ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mitchelldiedrich you missed the one where they kick the player in the head

    • @VaticalliX
      @VaticalliX ปีที่แล้ว +5

      those cops in the arrest scenes were clearly the stunt doubles that were tapped instead of the actual actors 🤣

  • @elios7623
    @elios7623 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    i never get tired of the speedtrap bit lmfao it gets better with every upload

    • @mitchelldiedrich
      @mitchelldiedrich  ปีที่แล้ว +23

      lmfao I got a serious kick out of acting like I was forced to do it this time. acting like "sorry, I wish I didn't have to, but my hands are tied."

    • @elios7623
      @elios7623 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mitchelldiedrich deadass

    • @DripTitan6988
      @DripTitan6988 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I love how the echo gets more intense each time

    • @mitchelldiedrich
      @mitchelldiedrich  ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@DripTitan6988 it's gonna be muddled garbage soon if I keep it up lol

    • @janosbrutyo2835
      @janosbrutyo2835 ปีที่แล้ว

      Once you go undercover, running gag eats you.

  • @andrewrogers3067
    @andrewrogers3067 ปีที่แล้ว +433

    Worst part is? It had potentially to be incredible. The idea of you being an undercover cop and hunting other races and blending in sounds incredible.
    They literally could have copy pasted NFS Carbon and improved some aspects as well as whatever the fuck was going on in the story.

    • @mitchelldiedrich
      @mitchelldiedrich  ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Totally agree with you. Awesome idea but an absolute bag fumble. I just don't understand why they felt the need to fuck with the handling model.

    • @NoisR
      @NoisR ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thats the worst part for so many games from recent years. Sooo many games that had so much potential... just look at fh4/5. And i still dont understand why we havent gotten an nfs underground 3 yet thats literally what so many people want night time, open world, street races, tuning etc

    • @shira_yone
      @shira_yone ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I don't know, I feel like MW'05 is practically UC but executed better in almost every way. You not knowing that you helped an undercover cop even enhances the story a bit, and the story for the most part makes sense. UC is just "this happens _and then_ this happens" with no logic nor rhyme and there's no salvaging it.

    • @andrewrogers3067
      @andrewrogers3067 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@shira_yone MW has a major hole in that literally EVERYBODY saw the twist with Mia coming if you saw the cutscenes
      The only way that could have been interesting is if you the player were actually a reformed undercover cop. Now THAT would have been interesting.

    • @shira_yone
      @shira_yone ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@andrewrogers3067 maybe it's just me but I don't really get what is so interesting about playing an undercover cop, especially as it pertains to gameplay. Rival/racer takedowns, transporter jobs, escort/tailing missions, etc, are some of my least favorite thing to do in a street racing game.
      Btw if you want that _"working undercover to bust down some racers and organization"_ street racing game fix, I actually recommend The Crew 1. It's practically UC if done a bit more competently with 10 times the content + variety and map size.

  • @WarzoneXProductions
    @WarzoneXProductions ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I didn’t know much about game development, but even my 8 year old self knew at the time that something was seriously wrong with Undercover. Especially after playing it’s previous entries to completion

  • @yorrickwi
    @yorrickwi ปีที่แล้ว +37

    carmen is the singer of the kim possible theme song

  • @noice6421
    @noice6421 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    If I'm not mistaking, prostreet was made by a small team and it was in the process of making at the same time as undercover, and undercover was made by a different big team. So it is even worse.

  • @rlfpotatoking9253
    @rlfpotatoking9253 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    you forgot to mention one crazy thing about the handling and physics. If you use nitrous when turning into a corner, you can achieve insane levels of grip that your car will turn like some rollercoaster ride, and this applies for ALL cars in the game as long as they have nitrous. They messed up the handling big time, I'm guessing its because they used the NFS ProStreet car handling and tried to make it more arcade, when they could have just taken the handling model from NFS MW or Carbon.

    • @linkskywalker5417
      @linkskywalker5417 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Even if they didn't do that for the 7th gen consoles and PC, they could've done so for Wii and PS2.

    • @_Sylens
      @_Sylens 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bro that happens in unbound

    • @TheCapitalWanderer
      @TheCapitalWanderer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@_Sylensdifferent, Burst Nitrous is it's own mechanic, this one isn't.

    • @clarkdsaf
      @clarkdsaf 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also, letting off throttle while turning gives you insane amount of grip too..

    • @racdude01
      @racdude01 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@clarkdsaflol so either let of the gas or hit the NOS to turn, makes sense lol😂

  • @szybkiwojtas7895
    @szybkiwojtas7895 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    4:57 It's because both Pro Street and Undercover were developed simultaneously, so Undercover was kinda a rushed game.

  • @elperrodelautumo7511
    @elperrodelautumo7511 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    They could’ve been more focused on the criminal scene of the racing culture. Like maybe more deeper into the crime scenes. Also they could’ve used the busted cutscenes in which Q T E could be used to decide if you get busted by the cops or you steal a cop car and continue the police chase.

    • @TouchPlayEmu
      @TouchPlayEmu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Like the run

    • @linkskywalker5417
      @linkskywalker5417 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Yep. One of the busted cutscenes even has you stealing a rhino unit.

  • @callme_astro2111
    @callme_astro2111 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    "Comically large cop cars"
    Is in the lotus, the smallest model car in the game lmao

  • @Xvhalk3rieX
    @Xvhalk3rieX ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Even as a pre teen playing this game there were parts of this game that I remember being stuck on for weeks.

    • @SlothF004
      @SlothF004 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      got it all completed in a single weekend. Didn't even play much, game was easy as hell.

  • @marianpopa463
    @marianpopa463 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    There is a mod called Project Reformed that actually changes the game, making the game very good.

  • @TheBoostedDoge
    @TheBoostedDoge ปีที่แล้ว +79

    it's a terrible game but man, the garage music is absolute gold

  • @CS_Uravity_PRO
    @CS_Uravity_PRO ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Apparently BlackBox had to develop this in like 8 months time and with half of the team only. Yeah that was expected.
    You should try project Reformed for UC, fixes all the Graphical/Performance/Physics issues. It amps the game from bad to decent or even good if you ignore the story

  • @thatmemeguy6487
    @thatmemeguy6487 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Even if it was terrible, the getting busted cutscenes are my favourite out of any games ever

  • @TheOfficialRamVenkatakrishnan
    @TheOfficialRamVenkatakrishnan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    this game helped ME a lot personally, I was on vacation in the US and had no friends since I was only there for a month, and this game was really FUN, I loved the cheesy cut scenes and grinded the story to see every single one. I remember seeing the opening cutscene almost 50 times because the game kept crashing on my laptop haha. The game ran at I think 20-30 FPS max since I didn't know about graphic settings back then. and I got nearly every car! it was a fun game for kids haha. going back to it, it was WAY easier to see through the graphical problems since I mostly thought it was my laptop, but it was unfortunately overall a poorly optimized game .

  • @achmadsyariefhidayatullaha4643
    @achmadsyariefhidayatullaha4643 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    in Undercover, he refers to ProStreet when in that video he refers to Carbon when also in that video he refers to Most Wanted

  • @shariqhasan6220
    @shariqhasan6220 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    So in a nutshell, this game has the same plot as the first Fast and Furious movie.

  • @Soapetr394
    @Soapetr394 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    All the budget of the game went into making the “busted” cutscenes😹

  • @strider029
    @strider029 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The game was actually Black Box's reattempt to make something like Most Wanted again (their previous rellease 'Pro Street' was a sales failure), but ended up failing this one aswell (the game felt rushed to be honest).

  • @playbossthebest936
    @playbossthebest936 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Sooooo... This was done in around 6 months of actual development, right? That's not pretty. It's even worse when you realize that rivals had a comparable dev time and, glitches aside (but even then they're greatly reduced on console), it's a rather polished and complete game in comparison

    • @halmget3198
      @halmget3198 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      They were working on 3 games in that 6 months of time btw

    • @playbossthebest936
      @playbossthebest936 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@halmget3198 yeah, true. The team was also divided into 2 to manage that iirc

  • @skyline2601
    @skyline2601 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    3:02 literal nightmare fuel

  • @16BitGamerCat
    @16BitGamerCat 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    "You'll eat whatever i make, and you won't leave the table until you do."
    WATCH ME.
    *closes tab and labels video "not interested"*

  • @VaticalliX
    @VaticalliX ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I'm glad I have yet to play this
    on an unrelated note, I loved this as well as your other Need For Speed retrospectives; they got me into playing them

  • @Queek_Headtaker
    @Queek_Headtaker ปีที่แล้ว +35

    As a kid, I played a weird pirated version of the game that had absolutely no cutscenes in it. It was honestly much better that way, trying to imagine my own plot connecting all those story missions together. I also remember being disappointed by all the cop cars being so plastic compared to MW and Carbon's more or less realistic damage. That said, it's still one of my favourite games because of it weaving story missions and racing together, probably why I enjoyed Payback as well.

    • @mcslater_5281
      @mcslater_5281 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I Too, No Cutscenes No Soundtracks ,One Engine Sound For All Cars, Sudden Game Crash On Mission TAKING ZACK MAIO.

    • @alrecks619
      @alrecks619 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      pirated versions tends to cut back on the game sizes (oftentimes deleting cutscenes) so they can make more of them with CDs rather than having less with DVDs (which also consequentially means easier to download for countries that have bad internet connection) so there is that.

  • @vcp2077
    @vcp2077 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    You get more rep/skills if you dominate the event and driver skills somewhat alleviate some of the handling issues.
    And the word you are looking for when you mentioned that the handling is weird, is that the handling model doesn't suit the city and the map.

  • @rdgamer3215
    @rdgamer3215 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    In regards to the race with Rose, I think it is implied that Nickel cut the brake lines on the player car. He and Rose are seen together a lot when you are building your reputation with G-Mac and it does kind of seem like Rose starts taking a liking to the player, so Nickel attempts to derail the possibility of Rose falling for the player, he also is the most likely to do such an action given his criminal history.

  • @LuciusVulpes
    @LuciusVulpes ปีที่แล้ว +27

    This game holds a very weird place in my head. I still own the CD and the box, yet I don't remember jack shit from it. It's so garbage my mind erased it from my memory.

    • @mitchelldiedrich
      @mitchelldiedrich  ปีที่แล้ว +17

      it's weird asf how forgettable it is. obvs I harped on it pretty aggressively, but it wasn't the worst game I've ever played (not even the worst racing game). there ought to be something that sticks out, but there really isn't.

  • @kalsder
    @kalsder ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I don’t think it was their intention to make the mechanic job out to be a lesser profession by revealing she’s gonna be a doctor.
    They probably just wanted to highlight the fact that she’s different from all the racers the player is fighting against all game by showing her pursuing a non criminal career.
    Other than that great video 👌🏻

    • @mostafamagdy7117
      @mostafamagdy7117 ปีที่แล้ว

      The real question is how does a med student find time to be a mechanic

    • @janosbrutyo2835
      @janosbrutyo2835 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@mostafamagdy7117
      Hollywood rose tinted rags to riches logic:
      Sweet girl from the hood, meant for more. She has a passion for tinkering with cars, can hustle and make ends meet from that until she studies, gets a real career and breaks out from the slums. Pretty unrealistic, but at least inspiriational.
      Granted still looks down on the mechanic profession, but not on Carmen. And this is my reading. It's not about mending the 'prize' as her not being good enough, but giving her agency showing she is striving for more. Fast and botched, but I can see a good message behind it.

    • @gergoretvari6373
      @gergoretvari6373 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      this dude complaining about that is insufferable

    • @Halagini
      @Halagini 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@gergoretvari6373 Ye, it was so bad. I've never seen p*lit1cs hamfisted in a video more jarringly. Everything he said made absolutely no sense whatsoever in any way.

    • @gergoretvari6373
      @gergoretvari6373 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Halagini imagine if Mauler did a response video to him

  • @LuciusVulpes
    @LuciusVulpes ปีที่แล้ว +11

    babe wake up, Mitchell Diedrich just uploaded a new NFS review

  • @LowercaseLambda
    @LowercaseLambda ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I don’t say many good things about Undercover, but if there’s one good thing about it that I can immediately point out is obviously the soundtrack, more specifically the garage music and atmosphere. UC might have been a train wreck, but I honestly believe that the game’s garage might actually be one of the greatest things spawned for NFS ever. There is simply no other NFS game let alone racing game that matches the sheer *vibes* this game’s garage gave. Although many people including me say this game is super-forgettable, one thing about this game that I could never get out of my head in a good way is the absolutely genius music curation and design of the garage. That one single gap in the garage that lets the light in is so simple, yet so effective in giving the garage this ethereal atmosphere that no other racing game let alone ANY video game in general has given me. You think I’m done? I haven’t even mentioned the best part. What do you get when you combine the ethereal atmosphere created by that ray of light with the unrivaled genius of the song selection? You get what I would dare call the greatest video game menu of all time. When I see a picture of this game’s garage I think of songs like “Scuba (Amon Tobin Remix)”, “To Heal”, “The Mark Has Been Made”, “Indigo Children (JLE Dub Mix)”, and “Shunt”. When I think of those songs, I think of UC’s garage. It’s this aspect of UC that sometimes makes me forget that this game absolutely blows. Safe to say that the sound team at Black Box were *cooking* when they were setting up the feel of the garage. Shame that they didn’t get the time they needed to make this game what it deserved to be; a masterpiece.

  • @bryanvonstase6755
    @bryanvonstase6755 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    3:02 I LOST MY SH1T! HAHAAHAHHA. It was like RAZOR by BALENCIAGA.

  • @SylvieCanuck
    @SylvieCanuck ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I remember playing this on the PS2 and it being an absolute dumpster fire. Your experience of not being able to beat something on many repeated attemps, only to come back to it a month later and easily beat it is nothing new to me. I didn't even make it to the end of the story because I lost so much interest in it. I dumped the game and went back to NFS Underground 2, Most Wanted, and Carbon for the arcadey racing.

  • @adrishmajumder9878
    @adrishmajumder9878 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    honestly, when I played the game back in 2010, i was utterly disappointed by the horrific graphics, broken simulation, delusional camera angles, etc. etc. etc. so much wrong here.
    Honestly, NFS undercover was a steaming pile of garbage.
    However, I still hold my regard that NFS Undercover could've been so damn good. It had utmost potential to become one of the best street racing games of all time but EA does what they do best. Fuck things up.
    Also, its so astonishing to realize that in the same year they released Burnout Paradise and lets be honest, thats one damn good looking game.

    • @osopena3979
      @osopena3979 ปีที่แล้ว

      Paradise is still looking good AF on my PC compared to the hd version I remember when I first played it on 360.

    • @adrishmajumder9878
      @adrishmajumder9878 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@osopena3979 😅😅i also downloaded the original today as well.

    • @osopena3979
      @osopena3979 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Paradise wasn't built by the same team as nfs is being built with now. Criterion was still doing their own thing at that time

  • @RandomCarfromNFS
    @RandomCarfromNFS ปีที่แล้ว +7

    3:02 💀

  • @mitchelldiedrich
    @mitchelldiedrich  ปีที่แล้ว +19

    👀👀 Come join the Discord discord.gg/4j5GRSMfcU
    Support the Patreon (why would you do this?): www.patreon.com/MitchellDiedrich
    Watch me stream? www.twitch.tv/mitchelldiedrich
    I also Tweet twitter.com/mxtchxll
    Point of clarification: the checkpoint races are NOT as I've described in this video. The checkpoint races are extensions of the checkpoint/tollbooth races from the previous games. I over committed to the bit and gave myself tunnel vision.
    I'm really happy with how this one turned out. Obviously, I can always improve, and I'm always *extremely* interested in feedback on what I'm doing well and where I'm lacking, but I feel that this video suggests an upward trajectory.
    While I don't agree with the thesis, here is a very well made video (that I very much enjoyed) about the game. Show it some love. th-cam.com/video/VFI4UuRue1g/w-d-xo.html

    • @VaticalliX
      @VaticalliX ปีที่แล้ว +1

      joined the server =)

    • @StudioCorpse
      @StudioCorpse ปีที่แล้ว

      As much as I love long running jokes over the course of many videos but the "I'll refer to myself" joke just isn't landing here because your cutaway goes on too long as you explained the same racing event 4 times. It would land better if you said "I won't explain this event type in this video, I'll refer to my pro street video for it > You know what, I'll refer to my Carbon video... > Actually I'll just refer to my Most Wanted video".
      I get the set up was "I don't care about your time" but besides wasting time, it kills the overall flow and quality of the video.
      Other than that, it's a pretty solid video

    • @mitchelldiedrich
      @mitchelldiedrich  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@StudioCorpse this is G O O D feedback. might steal this if I don't give up on the bit entirely

  • @303sebas3
    @303sebas3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    played the PS2 version as a kid, didn’t know how different the gameplay was from other consoles 🤔
    but it was always good stupid fun going 300 in a ccx sending cop cars flying 😂 good times

    • @santerihaataja1624
      @santerihaataja1624 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah, i did also palyed the ps2 version so i thought it would be fun to play on pc,
      So i download undercover for pc later and i was suprised how different and bad the game is😢😂

    • @DMCdantenero112
      @DMCdantenero112 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I played the PSP version as a kid, and I loved it. I had no idea the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions were so much worse.

    • @Mrrizzzzin-vc6np
      @Mrrizzzzin-vc6np ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I loved the PS2 version. But when I upgraded to the PS3 I hated it

    • @Random-vp3rv
      @Random-vp3rv 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The ps2 2008 version is way different then the 2011 ps3 version. I did the same thing. Had a ps2, upgraded to a ps3 got what I thought was the same game and it turned out to be the 2011 trash. I have very fond memories of the ps2 version it was amazing.

    • @dimitris.4484
      @dimitris.4484 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Actually ps2 version sucks.

  • @yaboiijebus
    @yaboiijebus ปีที่แล้ว +3

    to this day this is one of the nfs games i refuse to go back to and play, yet i find deep dive videos like this really interesting, great video man cant wait for the UG2 video

  • @kacperNFS
    @kacperNFS 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The takedown missions I would turn into the set pieces, where you have to follow the enemy like a time trial, and if you manage not to lose them, you'll get some set piece of him crashing in actual cool way.

  • @vapno92
    @vapno92 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Seriously, when You showed footage from Underground 2, I was like "Man that looks so much better"... And it does. Not like "it almost looks better", it genuinely looks better, period.

    • @mitchelldiedrich
      @mitchelldiedrich  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's wild cause it's not just the awful effects that cause the difference. When you look at the parts of the video where I turned off the effects, it's still much worse than NFSU2.

    • @vapno92
      @vapno92 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mitchelldiedrich Seriously, this thing LITERALLY looks like a very early PS2 game upscaled in emulator.

    • @ventilo1825
      @ventilo1825 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Even Hot Pursuit 2 looked better in 2002 lol

    • @vapno92
      @vapno92 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ventilo1825 Basically, take Hot Pursuit 2, upscale it, add disgusting piss filter, extensive motion blur, heavy bloom, turn your camera's exposition way up and You have Undercover basically. And I'm not even sure about it, since Hot Pursuit 2 have more detailed enviroment, than this shit.

  • @grmm6845
    @grmm6845 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I loved this game back in the 360 days, haven't played it in years, but I can't imagine it aged well. I do remember a few issues

  • @ToCHawk
    @ToCHawk ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love your uploads, your perfectly timed humor along with actual analysis is spot on. Keep the videos coming

  • @ChrisPBolsak
    @ChrisPBolsak ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The physics of Underground always reminded me of a mash-up of not the best, not the worst, but the most lukewarm physics choices from Most Wanted, Burnout, and ProStreet.

  • @michaelgualtierijr5434
    @michaelgualtierijr5434 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The funny part about the income disparity thing is that obviously there are different types of doctors and vehicle techs but the technician field is quickly diminishing and the rapid rise in tech salaries are catching up to and even surpassing some doctor salaries.

  • @alifnaufalmaulana6156
    @alifnaufalmaulana6156 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Tbh the PS2 version looks more stable than the PC and PS3 ones. Idk why but I found the PS2 version is way better despite being an unfinished PS3 version. And one thing that I like. The lighting is better and not blinding my eyes

    • @lordeilluminati
      @lordeilluminati ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes, as far as I am aware, the HD version is slightly more stable on the 360. On PC and PS3 it crashes a lot.
      The SD version (PS2 and Wii) works fine without game breaking glitches like PC and PS3 but it doesnt mean it is a good game either.

  • @brendandrummond1739
    @brendandrummond1739 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm sure you see how well these videos are doing relative to your others, awesome that you continue to provide the content we want! If you've played Underground 2, I'd love a video on it if you ever get around to it! Edit: I see that was already the plan. Keep up the good work!

  • @richardpalmer2957
    @richardpalmer2957 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The inception of your explanation was hilarious and I would love you to keep doing it.

  • @Lulnateee
    @Lulnateee ปีที่แล้ว +5

    No lie I actually loved this game, yea it’s glitchy & the graphics are kinda shitty & so is the story but i just absolutely love it

    • @thesuperiorgolem5357
      @thesuperiorgolem5357 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think the car list was perfect and its just the last mw 05 and carbon style nfs which is why I like it.

    • @rickyggaming7210
      @rickyggaming7210 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I have the similar appeal to Driv3r.

  • @sicdemon7177
    @sicdemon7177 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My biggest gripe with this game was the physics. I remember having a fully maxed out Bugatti and being able to take every turn effortlessly by letting off the gas. My second gripe was the vinyl editor was SO. DAMN. SLOW! It became a chore to make any type of design.

  • @coupleddead247
    @coupleddead247 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just realized that the two thugs you take out after Hector and Zack are driving the Renault and Evo you stole for them

  • @celphtitled8284
    @celphtitled8284 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    make more videos like this where you are critical of video games and you'll get major views, especially for modern games, in which the state of modern games they are released in it's really easy to do.

  • @frizzyrascal1493
    @frizzyrascal1493 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Undercover on the PS2 was the best version of Undercover.

  • @dannysteensma411
    @dannysteensma411 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Even though I see its flaws I still love this game. Its the game that introduced me to NFS and it did do some things right:
    - the soundtrack is one of the best in the franchise
    - the busted scenes are badass and really fun to watch
    - the car selection is actually pretty good not too much and too little
    - the cutscenes are so dumb but that’s why I enjoy them to watch
    - highway battle is really awesome and I wished they brought it back to some of the newer nfs
    - customization is pretty good
    - I actually like the map and having everything being connected through highways is an actual good idea
    - the syndicate jobs are really cool and show off multiple cars that you could use later

  • @Zelosis_
    @Zelosis_ ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You aren't wrong, I will in fact watch whatever you upload

    • @mitchelldiedrich
      @mitchelldiedrich  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      bro literally yesterday I was thinking to myself "Have I not heard from him in a minute because he died or because I just haven't uploaded in forever?" lmao glad it was option 2

    • @Zelosis_
      @Zelosis_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@mitchelldiedrich I am alive! Most community tab stuff doesn't get pushed very well to home pages a lot of the time, but I try to stay on top of my sub box for content creators I like. Then commenting, liking, etc for algorithm. Really wish the fallout and other vids performed as well as the nfs stuff because I love the branched out content. Cheers man!

    • @mitchelldiedrich
      @mitchelldiedrich  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Zelosis_ yeah, I rewatched em, and I'm not surprised they flopped. I got a new mic after the Carbon video and I didn't know how to use it, so they audio was scuffed asf and the pacing was just too slow to hold attention. lessons learned!

  • @loudman6911
    @loudman6911 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    one thing i love about this game for Real are those goofy ass arresting cutscenes

  • @Brave-Octopus
    @Brave-Octopus ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I loved this game when it came out. But I was 13. Looking back and then replaying it I'm sitting here like "wow I had had shit taste." The music though is still good.

  • @RedSkylinex60
    @RedSkylinex60 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I kinda wish we got a 2007/8 Underground 3 that ties the stories of Underground 1 through Carbon together instead of Undercover.

  • @Happymali10
    @Happymali10 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So...the out-from-sea helicopters in Undercover are odd, but the "Helictoper in a roadblock in a tunnel"-ones in Most Wanted are not?

    • @TheCapitalWanderer
      @TheCapitalWanderer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      when was that?

    • @Happymali10
      @Happymali10 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheCapitalWanderer The first Most Wanted-game (2005?) had a bug where you'd sometimes get police-helicopters in roadblocks in the highway-tunnel beyond the golf club.

  • @radicalcentrist4990
    @radicalcentrist4990 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You should do Underground 1 aswell. Underground 1 didn't age as well as later entries but I think I still like it's vibe and soundtrack the most. It wasn't my first NFS but it was the one I spent the most time with in childhood, so I am most fond of it.

  • @chappanagent
    @chappanagent ปีที่แล้ว +6

    🇮🇳🙏a lot of memories from this game. I can see what kind of "Hollywood" look and aesthetic they were going for but honestly pro street looked way better visually and even gameplay wise was superior. To this day idk why the skybox in Undercover is so jacked.
    Edit: waiting for your next video on nfs shift.

    • @dalelumina3
      @dalelumina3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      worst part is that not even disabling bloom can fix that ugly skybox

  • @animavenatores5324
    @animavenatores5324 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Agree 100%...still my 3rd favorite need for speed

    • @thesuperiorgolem5357
      @thesuperiorgolem5357 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      glad im not the only one who likes this game.

    • @wedasantika6079
      @wedasantika6079 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was my first NFS game. Although at first I didn't get it why I had the game installed in my old laptop. So I played it and enjoyed it.
      I didn't know any other NFS game back then and never owned PS2.

  • @FastCarsNoRules220
    @FastCarsNoRules220 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've seen so many people wanting a Most Wanted remaster or remake, but honestly I think Undercover deserves a remake more and that's done better that the original.

  • @DanteLocquiao-go4yh
    @DanteLocquiao-go4yh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why is the need for speed undercover thumbnail is so good

  • @neal5807
    @neal5807 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    THIS IS ROCKET LEAGUE

    • @mitchelldiedrich
      @mitchelldiedrich  ปีที่แล้ว

      shogun with lowkey one of the greatest calls in the history of esports

  • @tanir7333
    @tanir7333 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Any hot takes on NFS 2012 or NFS The Run?

    • @mitchelldiedrich
      @mitchelldiedrich  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      hottest take I got: The Run is super underrated, but maybe I'm just a sucker for the concept. The avalanche legitimately changed my perspective on what racing games are capable of.

    • @jackverna339
      @jackverna339 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@mitchelldiedrich I'm so glad you feel the same way about The Run. While it was a fairly short game for me I thoroughly enjoyed it and thought the storyline had a familiar action movie feel, and as a racing game it was amazingly executed.

  • @dhhruvsingh3245
    @dhhruvsingh3245 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i'd love to get a retrospective from you on nfs world as well (given how there's still a dedicated community that still plays the game)

  • @jammiemc4447
    @jammiemc4447 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not gone lie, how they line up for the Gold Coast Mastery event went hard for no reason, lol. I also loved the bit for the checkpoint races, as this is my first time viewing you

  • @4386764
    @4386764 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I guess its late to tell you that there's the mod known as Reformed that basically fixes most of the game, especially graphics and handling.

    • @mitchelldiedrich
      @mitchelldiedrich  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      lol yeah. a commenter (maybe you? can't find the comment now) brought it up on my last video, but by then I had already recorded all of my footage. a missed opportunity, which is kind of a perfect metaphor for this game.

    • @4386764
      @4386764 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@mitchelldiedrich You could probably refresh the upload of this video with the added segment of the mod in which you give some quick thoughts about it like: "This is how good UC could have been if the devs weren't constrained with time and staff."
      Judging recent findings it can be seen that UC only had 6 to 7 months of dev time while also being made by a understaffed team. (making almost 3 to 4 games in the same time frame) gotta give these devs some slack as for them miraculously managed to create a decent foundation to mod despite being against all odds.

  • @jachu7117
    @jachu7117 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    IT wasnt bad. IT was different than carbon and that's IT. You are complaing about helis which are going from the ocean 😂 that's too much

    • @nyairiclarke9025
      @nyairiclarke9025 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I wonder if he stretched before that hell of a reach dwl

  • @Jules-69lol
    @Jules-69lol ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I got the Reformed mod that has Most Wanted and Run handling so it's really good now

  • @sinfulsuave
    @sinfulsuave ปีที่แล้ว +1

    have your notis on and was excited seeing your vid pop up. keep on going brother

  • @kraevous
    @kraevous ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Anyone actually love this game or is it just me?

    • @zionz1164
      @zionz1164 ปีที่แล้ว

      I played this game back in 2010 and i still actually enjoying it till this day

    • @ciaranalexander2533
      @ciaranalexander2533 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's a good game... Currently playing it... Much better than the garbage we've had from Criterion and Ghost...

  • @piaskowski590
    @piaskowski590 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    EA forced BlackBox to channel their efforts into 2008 NFS, leaving Pro Street an unfinished product. This unfinished product was one of the best NFS of my childhood and it's sad that Pro Street could've been even better.

  • @father042
    @father042 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You should talk about the PS2/Wii version which is just as bad

    • @lordeilluminati
      @lordeilluminati ปีที่แล้ว

      it is bad but at least it doesnt crash often as the PC and PS3 versions

  • @deathaero9149
    @deathaero9149 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i liked playing it as a kid. as an adult it was kinda good but not perfect. my main complaints is no music in free roam, the physics are off, and they really needed to categorize the rims by manufacturers. the garage is the best part. what’s with the light behind the wall? the garage music is great as well.
    by the way, in some areas the sky will change color when you look back at the camera

  • @Rockport1911
    @Rockport1911 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Iam so glad I got to grow up exacly young enough to play the titles from Underground to ProStreet but old enough to see that the series declined after. Carbon was my first pirated game and Iam glad I didnt spend any money on NfS after...

  • @Visstnok
    @Visstnok ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't know, man. You make it look like a very fun game!

    • @marsoh7972
      @marsoh7972 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It really is. I think this video must be satire or something, either that or Michelle is just trying to sound cool by bashing the last great NFS game. I loved Most Wanted but I'd be lying if I said it didn't feel extremely repetitive and lacked more mission types. Undercover does that and the new modes are really good. The only legitimate complaints here are the physics and the occasional pop in.

    • @TheCapitalWanderer
      @TheCapitalWanderer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@marsoh7972"last great nfs game" opinion discarded

  • @Jo3man96
    @Jo3man96 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When I played this when it first came out, back when I was 12/13 (so 2008/2009), I used my Mom’s credit card to get the Bugatti Veyron as quick as possible. I got grounded for 6 months, which was reduced to 6 weeks for good behaviour, which worked, cus I didn’t do anything as stupid again.
    Anywho, when I got my xbox back, I played the game with the Veyron for all of 5 mins before I decided I didn’t like it and went back to Forza Motorsport and what was probably CoD WaW at the time, shortly before I switched to Battlefield.

  • @staciefreshener4032
    @staciefreshener4032 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    When you talk about graphics it's so true . And I didn't knew about physics , I still play undercover often.. I love the game actually because I just hop in with music to race and open world , but yeah... Graphics.. That Bloom effect I thought also was overly done. The sun and world effects are done badly , It honestly feels like if you play this game in night , you're literally playing " Need for Sunlight - simulator "

  • @atomiczombie29
    @atomiczombie29 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I absolutely enjoyed tf out of this game. Still do whenever I can play it. Needs a remaster.

  • @Fishnchipsz
    @Fishnchipsz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You just spitting bullshit at this point 😂😂😂

  • @nemtudom5074
    @nemtudom5074 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    12:04 * 'The safeword is police brutality!' *

  • @salimrahal1811
    @salimrahal1811 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember getting it mostly for the car list, having the BMW M3, Audi R8, Mclaren F1,Nissan GT-R R34,35 and the Porsches was kinda a dream game for me at that time. Also I think the story would've been better with a blacklist.

  • @SVSportscars
    @SVSportscars ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A very accurate review of the game, only comment I missed is that the world felt empty and lifeless.
    Back in the day I waited for the arrival of every NFS game until this game.
    I got the game from EA as was the case with previous titles (MW and Carbon) while working for nfsunlimited and even then it felt like a massive disappointment. Even free it felt like being ripped off. Felt very sorry for the people who paid for it.
    I felt obligated to finish the game but never touched it afterwards. It just felt like a drag playing it, it was the complete opposite of MW.
    Sure no NFS games had people in it on the streets etc. only cars. Yet Carbon and especially MW felt like it was lived in for some reason.
    Never liked the visuals, EA called it the golden hour of the day for sunlight but all it dit was make it look yellow and boring.
    The car list wasn't bad at all, just could not be bothered much with it.
    This game made me loose all hope in NFS and I was basically done with it.

    • @mitchelldiedrich
      @mitchelldiedrich  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I wrote "empty world" in my outline and then forgot to talk about it lol
      I agree with every single one of your points - especially with it being the game that soured me on the series. It had a good run, but this one confirmed that it was dead.

    • @hawken796
      @hawken796 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unbound has npc's on the street now so, improvement.

  • @NoiseBombS14
    @NoiseBombS14 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Guess what fellow commenters
    NFS Prostreet was the best NFS game and it’s not close.
    Cry about it.

    • @mitchelldiedrich
      @mitchelldiedrich  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      anyone who disagrees is banned. they can appeal by writing a five paragraph essay about Ryyyyyannnnn Cooooper

  • @HbEthan.
    @HbEthan. หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Like how recovering the pda and the car was basically the plot of fast 5 when they stole the gt 40 or the hyper car in fast 7 😂😂

  • @tomasburian6550
    @tomasburian6550 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sweeping shot over the ocean that eventually pans up is the laziest, most overused opening shot in movie history. When someone uses it, you know they are creatively dead.

  • @donaldsalkovick396
    @donaldsalkovick396 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    How original. Another milennial video game youtuber who constantly cries about the game

  • @jldldr3933
    @jldldr3933 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1 second gang lets go!

  • @Balbaar
    @Balbaar หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    my time in this game only exists as a bad fever dream.

  • @SiMBol10
    @SiMBol10 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This got me laughing out loud so often

  • @M4V3R1CK_13
    @M4V3R1CK_13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Undercover stills better than Payback, Heat and Unbound combined.

  • @gabrieleliotahumadaadrianz1665
    @gabrieleliotahumadaadrianz1665 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh, man, i had the same problem with the master race at the middle of the game. Was driving the Audi TT that you got from the chase race, spec it up, it was really a nice driving car but i just couldn't win, Problem was i needed to buy a next tier car to get there and to do so, i needed to win sh%t ton of races to have enough money to buy the next one (The Gallardo for me). Funny the car with no extras was as fast as the spec up TT but the game cranked up the dificulty on the bots to force you to change cars.