I know that’s these controversial videos (with even more controversial thumbnails) are successful on TH-cam. It was a good video, don’t get me wrong. But I like you other (more analytical) stuff better. Just wanted to let you know. Wish you the best and greetings from Germany
My core videos will continue to be the analytical ones, but it’s summer and those videos require a lot more research and a lot more time to put together. Sometimes i have to pace myself with some lighter stuff. Fear not though. I have thoughts on the way about IWC, Tudor vs Omega and the cliches of watch design. 😀 But first a couple of summer vids Cheers 😀
The video was great. In the middle of hear waves and turbulent politics, droll is appreciated. You could market this videos for new hires, or just folks in their 20s about what to buy. Thinking back on my motorcycle jacket I wore to work 35 years ago
I will say that this was the most intelligent and thoughtful of the click bait, hot take videos. So much better than yet another Rolex hate fest. And I agree with most of what was said and I hate those hate videos normally. lol
This. Today I am wearing a garish $30 automatic Chinese watch that is highly finished. I am pretty sure that this won't last a long time, and unless it becomes a cherished piece, I don't see myself paying for a service.
Agreed. Bought my first G Shock yesterday (2nd hand). Not even my favourite G Shock to look at, but I love the functions it has, even though there’s no way I’ll ever use them. It fits with what I want for my collection. There’s no bad reason to buy a watch, unless it’s someone else’s reason.
I remember back in the day, in January 1991, I bought a Tag Heuer Formula 1 Black with a red ring inside the dial. I paid around $220.00 USD... Now, this reissue is a joke at $1,500.00 USD.
I'd actually disagree, I've known plenty of people who were impressed with a rolex on the wrist. It's as much a status symbol as a benz or any other luxury good.
@@frozenfenix0 Sadly yes. While talking to a woman on the street she commented that I must be rich because I was wearing a Rolex. I let her know that it was just a homage. Then for some reason my hat came up and I told her it was a Stetson. "See you are doing well." Brand conscious people are strange to me but I see the power which it holds for some people.
I've set a crazy rule for myself; "only buy vintage or at least 10y old watches". There are so many interesting watches that are 15, 20 or 25 years old and you never get sucked in by hype 😅
One of the issues with getting attention by wearing a Rolex is, depending on where you live and travel at least, you often get the wrong type of attention. Less than upstanding members of society are more likely to recognize that little crown as a status symbol than the girl at the bar you were hoping to impress.
Let's be honest it's to impress the ladies.Problem is 99% of women and people in general don't care about watches.But I do find I get more looks and smiles when I'm decked out in all my jewlerry and one of my nicer dive watches, particularly by older women (cougars). And that's ok I like me some cougars. It's all about the colours you wear, the flashier the dial color, the better.
@@ChrisWolf75women like watches but are more impressed with a cartier than a rolex. Tasteful women dont like bright colored rolexes. They like steel or white gold and understated with classic design.
Fun fact: I ordered what I thought was a cheap $25 Monaco homage because I wanted to test it out to see if I'd like the real deal and was sent a very poorly done counterfeit. The Ali Express store I bought it from went dark shortly after it arrived. Lol.
I remember my paternal grandfather gave me his pride and joy 1960s Omega Seamaster DeVille 6 months before he passed away. According to my dad, that watch is as a symbol of his financial success at an early age. Been wearing his watch for 27 years now and now I am in the market for an Omega of my own. Really don’t care about impressing other people. Only care to get the one to put a smile on my face every time I wear it.
I recently bought the Hanhart 417es 39mm Manuel wind. When you go for what you really want and not the hype. It just feels good. And stays with you longer. The watch is amazing and can’t stop admiring it.
Great advice. All this makes sense. About half of those watches I already own. Would love a white-dial Moonwatch but I have the new Moonwatch so I'll stick with that.
@@aljoubert8749the olympic one? Or the mitsukoshi? Personally I would prefer the latter over the olympic ones. Then again any of them do not disappoint.
Clicked the video expecting disappointment based on the click bait title, but I was pleasantly surprised to find your takes to be rather rational and on-point. +1
TH-cam doesn't actually reward clickbait anymore. You have to make a thumbnail that represents what the video is about... So I do my best to hit that vibe 😃
I'm really enjoying your channel my friend. I like the fact that your blatantly honest without giving a damn which watchmakers you may upset. Keep up the good work
Is speedmaster white worth buying right now If I can get it at retail? I called the omega store at my city, and they said I can go pick it up right now.
Like he said, Speedmasters will generally sell under retail in the secondary market (with very few exceptions, like the Snoopy, or maybe the Ed White, which are much more limited in production). If you like it, if you’re ok with the price and you want it right away then go for it. If you’re willing to wait, then you could probably get it for cheaper.
Having owned a white dial speedy for more than 2 decades, I would say yes. They do look great and if it suits your personality and makes you happy, go get em. That aside, sometimes I do find it a bit too eye-catching, which isn't what I enjoy immensely.
I'm a fairly new subscriber and I think you hit the nail on the head woth every video I've seen. Just wanted to leave a comment and say your content and views/insights are brilliant 👏
Start of with a Casio F-91W :p (I know this is opposite of the theme of this video) I bought my first F-91 a couple of weeks ago, and it has really stirred up my relationship with watches.
Best thing about this watch is that it's unassuming and practically does everything you would require from a watch. I have never had one, I do have a number of squares though and I usually wear of them alongside my other mechanical watches on both left and right wrists.... yes I m strange guy to some 😅
I have two of the (original) TH Formula 1 watches, one with the jubilee type bracelet. They are tiny when compared to more contemporary watches, but the bracelet is very well made. Both have had new mvts fitted.
Enjoyable video as always. A couple of things I would add. One is that $1,500 may be high for a regular quartz watch, but for a high accuracy quartz watch such as a Citizen Chronomaster or Breitling Aerospace, it can be worthy of much higher price than that. Two, regarding Chinese homage watches, I would only dabble in it if the cost is such that you can eat it if it dies. I've been buying some homages lately and have no illusions about after sales service. It's basically gambling, but while they are working, it's fun to have some without spending a lot of money.
I agree with you. I’m shopping more on movements. I have a Direnzo eclipse with a stellita 200 movement. I’d like to try other movements and build a collection on calibers. Not just looks.
Thank you for a such great teaching. " You should always make up your own mind, If you like something , go for it". Today I won an eBay auction for a Sekonda USSR Poljot style gold plate vintage watch with a blue dial. I fell in love when I saw it, so I got it . May you be well and happy, with metta kindness
You had pink chinos? Sheesh. There is a depth to your content, as can be seen in this excellent, opinionated, and well-reasoned list. Agree with your view of Bremont ; they're unlikely to ever be on my 'maybe' list - but part of me kind of hopes that one day they could be.
I agree with mostly everything, EXCEPT the ROLEX commentary that "nobody cares". My experience with my daily two-tone black-dial Submariner has been the total opposite with 2-3 nice compliments per month from watch people, and normal humans as well :) . Love my Sub.
I bought a Chinese watch (Seagull 1963, not a replica) and one of the numerals had not been glued in properly. A watchmaker here quoted me X to put it right and I asked the Chinese manufacturer for that amount. They offered 1/3X which I refused and then said if I'd give them a 5 star rating and no bad press they'd pay X to my PayPal account. They were true to their word. A somewhat compromising deal but it sort of worked out.
Great videos as always . . . Some recent watch shopping . . . 1) Unwilling to buy a watch from a farm building only open on certain days AND their own customer star rating system (not trustpilot). 2) With another watch tried to buy a leather strap AND a metal bracelet - this was too difficult for the watch company who did not seem to have part numbers for these items . . . only ad hoc arrangements ---- Eventually happy with a different watch brand. It pays to ask a lots of questions . . .
In addition to the oil filled models, a lot of Sinn watches have the dehumidifying technology, which fills the case with an inert gas while being assembled in a vacuum. I have a U2 with this feature as well as the copper sulfate capsules to absorb any moisture. I don’t think there is anyone but Sinn who would be able to really service the watch properly, despite it being a pretty pedestrian Sellita GMT movement.
"Have your staples in place first", great advise for long term watch collecting. Also, the Rolex advice. As Baldassarre said, "nobody cares about your damned watch". The reality is we're the only people who care about them.
And this is why I don't understand the fixation with dial diameter. If I like a watch with a 48mm dial I'll buy it and I'll wear it. I don't give a 4x what anyone else thinks - I don't wear any of my watches for others, unless it was a gift from the Mrs.
As someone who recently purchased one of the 31 Tangente color combinations that Nomos released, I would echo your advice to be thoughtful about your purchase. The first color way I got looked really good in the online pictures, but in real life (where the 37.7mm dial looks different from the 5 to 6 inch dial in the online images), I was less enthusiastic about the watch. While it was nice, it felt a bit dull (for lack of a better word), and a bit duplicative (in terms of when I would wear it) with a couple of other watches that I own. After mulling things over for the weekend, I returned the watch, and ended up buying a different color combination. In both cases (as with all my watch purchases), I try to think through when (and how often) I'll wear the watch and whether it's an addition that's worth the price (to me). The first Tangente didn't hit the mark, the second one did.
It's not very well talked about but one thing I would consider when buying a watch is whether I'll be able take it to an AD for servicing later down the road. I'm not considering buying a Grand Seiko only because I will have to mail it New Jersey to get it serviced.
Have been tempted by the Sinn Hydro. Initially I was put off by the fact Sinn felt an air bubble was OK. Apparently that's no longer the case, and the special case back sounds cool, but agree with you that the whole Sinn network is a pain (UK here) and am sticking with my U212 now. Love the brand but they have some oddities to their range too IMO.
Could not agree more for U50 Hydro. Biggest gripe for me is Ronda movement in that price range and based on forums, service times are bonkers with Sinn atm.
When I got the Sinn U50 Hydro I knew that I would need Sinn to change the battery but it will last almost 10 years and the legibility in and out of the water is superior to the U50. Accuracy was also crucial for me.
I have other watches that would tide me over the month or so it might take ... but I wouldn't want to see the bill for servicing an oil-filled model out of warranty.
I am another “Sinner”, and I have An 857 UTC that had the crown on the standard right side. I live in the USA. I also have a smallish 6.5 inch wrist and the large crown was annoying when it hit the back of my wrist. At 43mm the watch was too big for me in this configuration so I asked Sinn if they would flip the crown and they did it for a very reasonable price and quickly. It TRANSFORMED the wearability! The result of this experience is that I would not shy-away from buying an oil filled UX or U50 Hydro just because it has to go to Frankfurt. While the U50 Hydro would fit me better I would buy the UX because of its backstory and its superior quartz movement! …just a thought!
My first 2 watches were skeletons, one was maurice lacroix aikon 45mm masterpiece skeleton. The other was zenith defy classic skeleton. Both are good watches and I still wear them on regular basis 😊
@@petrokersta5293 My comment was to the OP with his two skeletons. I wouldn't buy one (in 2017 I purchased a Carrera Heuer 01, non-skeleton) but good for him ...
I own quite a few watches, including several Rolexes and an Underd0g ... and I 100% agree with everything in this vid: The Watermelon is a lot of fun, but it's not an everyday watch. Occasionally a watch nerd wants to see / talk about one of my less-common Rolexes, but nobody else cares. I'd hazard to guess that to 99% of people (probably more) all they see is 'Oh, look, she's wearing an old-timey boomer watch.'
I lived in 3 countries in Asia for 10 years. Asians care in some places and others not so much. Those who care are usually insecure and need western made objects to compensate for their feelings of inadequacy in relation to "western" people no matter how much money they have. That's just stupid.
@@vpsn99 sure. The fact that Asia bothers to mass produce replicas and sell them openly speaks volume. It's also good - only the elites will know if it's a real thing while keeping robbery away
Great commentary and warnings. I’d add: the world economies are going to get worse before they get better - so if you’re going to buy a luxury watch on the grey market a) negotiate hard to get a better price; b) wait, because the sellers are going to have to lower prices. Still waiting on your FXD video - why you bought it and what else you considered, what you like/don’t like after a month.
Regarding the Rolex, I think I would argue contrary to your point; you will get more attention from NON-enthusiasts rather than enthusiasts. I say that because everyone knows the name Rolex, even non-enthusiasts, and those people will associate the name with high status and will be more likely to be "impressed" just because of the name. As an enthusiast, if I were to see someone wearing a Rolex, I may ask about it, ask about their experience, and then move on. I think a non-enthusiast is more likely to be kind of "star-struck" because of the name Rolex.
Rolex is the name even that non watch people know. That is why new money often buys a Rolex instead of (lets say) a Glashutte, Chopard or IWC. Rolex basicly is what Montblanc is for fountain pens. If you want to show off. It's the brand to go to. personally, I would be more impressed by a Patek Philippe or A A.Lange & Sohne.
I'm a similar vein, Rolex is the only expensive watch brand I can see on someone's wrist and not immediately know whether they're an enthusiast or not.
@@Zion-18 yeah, that’s true. If I see someone wearing an Oris or a Christopher Ward, I would feel a lot more confident assuming they are actually a watch enthusiast.
Amazing video! Would love to see you discuss the Seiko Presage line, Citizen 1050 and 1060 line and your favourite everyday dress watches in this price category ($500 to $1500 USD).
Whew! I love the Santos. Dual time? Nope! Isn't the "regular" Santos coming with an in house movement, or does it come with a Sellita or ETA? Everyone needs to bing on your channel, prior to spending any significant money on watches. Great work!
I am still on the fence. The "scratch magnet" reputation of the steel bezel is making me pause. Does this impact your decision in any way? I am just trying to gage the pulse of other fellow collectors.
@@dannysimenauer5745I bought the steel with ADLC bezel version and I love it. Initially I wanted to look at it because of the “scratch magnet” reputation the Santos had. When comparing side to side I actually fell in love with the dial, it’s both horizontally brushed in the center and then radially brushed outside the chapter ring, and it has a depth that doesn’t really come through in photos. To me, it made the white dial with printed numerals look a bit plain by comparison. Watch is super versatile, looks great on the bracelet and I bought a couple leather straps. Curved case is insanely comfortable on the wrist even with a butterfly and no micro adjustments.
@@dannysimenauer5745 It does not for me. I still want one. The Santos is just a classic icon with such an interesting history. I don't worry about the scratches, It depends how and when you wear the watch. I'm always very careful with my watches. I have a vintage Omega with an acryllic crystal that I have worn for years. and still no scratches on the crystal (or the case). And even if a scratch would happen. In worst case they can be buffed out.
@@dannysimenauer5745 it's not having any affect on my desire to purchase a Santos, at all. But I'm retired and don't subject my watches to the wear and tear that I used to. I'm leaning towards the blue dial, as I, also, like the blue strap that comes with it.
Well, I purchased a fully tegimented Sinn U50 Hydro. Love the watch. Sending it to Sinn from the US will certainly be an added pain, but I figured I can live with that every 5-10 years. In my experience many premium brands also have fairly significant turnaround times, based on recent Breitling and Omega watch servicing in the US.
Cartier asks crazy money for the Cartier Design. The Santos was such a good design that it still sells like hotcakes two decades after it was released and even inspired the design for the Apple Watch. You're not paying for the movement when you buy a Cartier watch, so it's not correct to compare them to other watchmakers in that regard.
@@MegaThucydides Indeed. Especially the Santos that has such a long history (designed 120 years ago.) And probable the first (if not, than at least one of the first) wristwatches for men that wasn't a modified pocketwatch.
A lot of the quartz watches they make are targeted towards women, who mostly don’t care about the movement, and probably prefer quartz due to the convenience.
What I’ve loved about your videos over the last year is the “look behind the curtain“ vibe that I got. I appreciated your insight and candid opinion. I always learned something. This video felt a bit like Clickbait and I didn’t learn anything.
I’m thinking of getting 8k the black speedmaster sapphire. Is it true these are often sold below retail? What is considered a good price for a new one?
I love Tag but I would never buy an Kith. I had a Formula One as well. They were cool! I dont like skeleton watches generally so I am with you on that. I dont care for Cartier would not wear one if I owned it so I can agree with you there as well. I love those Sinn's but I wont buy one either! I hear you on the Nomos and SU... If you want color get a G-Shock. You are right. Rolex is good but meh. I might pick up the Terra Nova second hand. Seems rather sporty. Have a great weekend Mike!
My biggest problem with Kith is that basically nobody knew who they were. A niche "supreme" that have gained popularity in the US but virtually unknown everywhere else. All youtubers clearly had no clue who they were and had had to google what it was. It's cool and trendy but that's about it 😃
@@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch You are right. I still dont know who they are and I am not bothered enough to find out so why would I want them on my watch...
Once again as usual enjoyed it… 👍👍👍 Really gone mad thinking should I buy the Panerai Radiomir Annual Calendar Platinumtech PAM01364 ? In love with it BUT they have priced it too high and thus the other watches come into play !!!! JLC IWC Mosier Czepak……
Very interesting approach and I like that you call out actual watches instead of watch types you shouldn't buy. However, I disagree with the Sinn U50 Hydro. This, for me is the ultimate tool watch with its maximum resistance, rubustness, legibility and accuracy and Sinn doing a great job servicing them. But, I may be biased since I live in Frankfurt. Cheers!
Fair enough on the hydro - I thinks it's a great watch but I do feel that for new buyers these highly featured specialty watches are not always the best option. If you're way down the rabbit hole of Sinn - then it's a whole other story 😃😃😃
I have zero distaste for the Hydro. I think it's cool, but for a regular watch buyer I feel it has a level of potential impracticality built in that is worth considering before buying. Especially when there is a version of the same watch without those concerns 😃
Thanks. Yes... but it's been a very very very very very very long time since I last surfed, let alone in SA. Last time i stood on a surfboard was in Hawaii at diamond head in 2007. Almost got myself killed 🤦♂️
I had never been a "watch guy". I don't know what possessed me, but one day, about two years ago, I just said, "I want a watch." Not being an enthusiast, I started looking at looking at watches that were between $75-150 bucks. First, I discovered Vostok, and fell in love with something called the "Amphibia." Secondly, I then discovered modding, and thirdly, decided to build my own Amphibia from genuine Vostok parts. Needless to say, I caught the bug, and the rest is history. Today, I have two Amphibias I've built, a Komandirskie 65 "R2-D2", a Seiko 5 that sucks, a Citizen Eco-Drive 1430, and a Steeldive SD1953. TL;DR: Two years later, I've got a 6 watch collection that I'm proud of, and didn't have to spend a whole hell of a lot of money.
The white Speedmasters are already available at my local boutique (Bangkok). The SA even said she could get me a 321 Ed White immediately if I was willing to bundled the two watches.
Wow you're spot on about Rolex. I have a friend who wears a Submariner. It's really a good quality & gorgeous watch. But every time when we go out, be it business seminar or just for fun, no one talks to him about his Submariner. Only Rolex enthusiasts would talk to him about his watch, or the process of buying a Rolex. My Hamilton X-wind sparked more conversation with random people than his Submariner. But I gotta say, when he ran into other Rolex people, their conversation are very enthusiastic. You really have to be into that stuff to understand.
A little harsh perhaps re reliability of Chinese watches - maybe not in terms of Chinese Sugess/Seagull movements (but they're still good movements), but surely for the Seiko V63 NH35 etc. movements.
great video mate! I literally agree with everything you said, like you read my mind :D the only people you might impress with a watch, are robbers, or a few watch enthusiast if you hang out with them. No one else, trust me. Buy watches that you like, that make you happy, and that you will wear. Because wrist watches are made to be warn.
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I know that’s these controversial videos (with even more controversial thumbnails) are successful on TH-cam. It was a good video, don’t get me wrong. But I like you other (more analytical) stuff better. Just wanted to let you know. Wish you the best and greetings from Germany
My core videos will continue to be the analytical ones, but it’s summer and those videos require a lot more research and a lot more time to put together. Sometimes i have to pace myself with some lighter stuff.
Fear not though. I have thoughts on the way about IWC, Tudor vs Omega and the cliches of watch design. 😀
But first a couple of summer vids
Cheers 😀
@@Mike.thiswatchthatwatchthank you for taking the time to respond. I’m hyped for your next videos. Have a nice summer :)
@@Mike.thiswatchthatwatchenjoy your summer!!
The video was great. In the middle of hear waves and turbulent politics, droll is appreciated. You could market this videos for new hires, or just folks in their 20s about what to buy. Thinking back on my motorcycle jacket I wore to work 35 years ago
I will say that this was the most intelligent and thoughtful of the click bait, hot take videos. So much better than yet another Rolex hate fest. And I agree with most of what was said and I hate those hate videos normally. lol
Bottom line, Buy what you like and gives you enjoyment. Nothing else matters as much.
This. Today I am wearing a garish $30 automatic Chinese watch that is highly finished. I am pretty sure that this won't last a long time, and unless it becomes a cherished piece, I don't see myself paying for a service.
Agreed. Bought my first G Shock yesterday (2nd hand). Not even my favourite G Shock to look at, but I love the functions it has, even though there’s no way I’ll ever use them. It fits with what I want for my collection. There’s no bad reason to buy a watch, unless it’s someone else’s reason.
Yeah, this. My tombstone sure as hell won’t say anything about the watches I had on my wrist.
@@charlesrusselliii2952 Ahhh someone who understands the concept of value for money!
That's why i collect Grand Seikos
Don’t buy primarily for value. Buy what you love that is comfortably in your budget.
Spot on 😃
I remember back in the day, in January 1991, I bought a Tag Heuer Formula 1 Black with a red ring inside the dial. I paid around $220.00 USD...
Now, this reissue is a joke at $1,500.00 USD.
That TAG looks like a Filk Flak
"Nobody is impressed." Truer words were never said.
Great video as always.
I'd actually disagree, I've known plenty of people who were impressed with a rolex on the wrist. It's as much a status symbol as a benz or any other luxury good.
@@frozenfenix0 Sadly yes. While talking to a woman on the street she commented that I must be rich because I was wearing a Rolex. I let her know that it was just a homage. Then for some reason my hat came up and I told her it was a Stetson. "See you are doing well."
Brand conscious people are strange to me but I see the power which it holds for some people.
The only person who really notice your watches are robbers.
@@betochiwas I think the woman who noticed my homage was a catfisher. She told a basically unverifiable story of financial woe.
Thieves are impressed... they have no problem taking one off you...
I've set a crazy rule for myself; "only buy vintage or at least 10y old watches". There are so many interesting watches that are 15, 20 or 25 years old and you never get sucked in by hype 😅
One of the issues with getting attention by wearing a Rolex is, depending on where you live and travel at least, you often get the wrong type of attention. Less than upstanding members of society are more likely to recognize that little crown as a status symbol than the girl at the bar you were hoping to impress.
Men wear to impress other men mainly
Girls are more impressed by my mint green (Tiffany blue) quartz PRX than any Rolex
Let's be honest it's to impress the ladies.Problem is 99% of women and people in general don't care about watches.But I do find I get more looks and smiles when I'm decked out in all my jewlerry and one of my nicer dive watches, particularly by older women (cougars). And that's ok I like me some cougars. It's all about the colours you wear, the flashier the dial color, the better.
Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof is the perfect example, as well as Paris and Berlin...
@@ChrisWolf75women like watches but are more impressed with a cartier than a rolex. Tasteful women dont like bright colored rolexes. They like steel or white gold and understated with classic design.
You can still get a original tag F1 in very good condition for less than 400 if you look and have a little patience.
Fun fact: I ordered what I thought was a cheap $25 Monaco homage because I wanted to test it out to see if I'd like the real deal and was sent a very poorly done counterfeit. The Ali Express store I bought it from went dark shortly after it arrived. Lol.
I have one and absolutely enjoy wearing it for its aesthetic and the way it feels on the wrist. The white dial with black bezel is classic.
I still have an original tucked away in the collection, had to double take seeing the reissue thumbnails start to appear in my recommended.
Bingo 😃
I recently found a Ladies Formula 1 at a pawn shop for 410€.
It's in pretty good condition (the bracelet has some stretch) and works perfectly. 😊
I remember my paternal grandfather gave me his pride and joy 1960s Omega Seamaster DeVille 6 months before he passed away. According to my dad, that watch is as a symbol of his financial success at an early age. Been wearing his watch for 27 years now and now I am in the market for an Omega of my own. Really don’t care about impressing other people. Only care to get the one to put a smile on my face every time I wear it.
I recently bought the Hanhart 417es 39mm Manuel wind. When you go for what you really want and not the hype. It just feels good. And stays with you longer. The watch is amazing and can’t stop admiring it.
I’ve been back and forward with Hanhart 417es. It’s a great design and a quality piece. Wear tours in good health!
@@petrokersta5293thx its an amazing tool watch. Im using the bund strap but will buy the strap eventually
Great watch and nice people at Hanhart! Cheers from Germany!
White dial version? 😃
@@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch just the black dial 1954 I’m a black dial kind of person 😂
I've done all the wrong moves possible. I'm basically a gangnam dancing handswinging pirate. Always appreciate ur videos.
Lol. You do you. Always 😃😃😃
White dial speedy is stunning and an absolute strap monster.
Shut it Shanice
Thank you for sharing the value of your experience. Each of us, individually, has our own path, but you are a Guide along the watch trail.
Puffy shirt would definitely be a "staple" 😂
@@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch Stay Puffy. 8)
Great advice. All this makes sense. About half of those watches I already own. Would love a white-dial Moonwatch but I have the new Moonwatch so I'll stick with that.
Scratch the white Speedmaster itch with a Japanese edition Mark 40 in the meantime :)
@@aljoubert8749the olympic one? Or the mitsukoshi?
Personally I would prefer the latter over the olympic ones. Then again any of them do not disappoint.
Clicked the video expecting disappointment based on the click bait title, but I was pleasantly surprised to find your takes to be rather rational and on-point. +1
TH-cam doesn't actually reward clickbait anymore. You have to make a thumbnail that represents what the video is about... So I do my best to hit that vibe 😃
Never hate on Barbara’s Rhaberberkuchen!
lol 😂
I'm really enjoying your channel my friend. I like the fact that your blatantly honest without giving a damn which watchmakers you may upset.
Keep up the good work
Thanks . I'll try 😃
I like your reviews very much! Honest and on point none of the drama found on many other watch channels. 👍
I try. Thanks 😃
Great video! Thank you. Also, I like your new studio setup!
Thanks. I know it's kind of morphing into a generic studio, but it's what I can do with the space I have 😂
Another great video with sensible advice. Thank you!
Cheers 😃
What if I’m an actual pirate, with a parrot?
I'm picturing a tiny watch on the parrot.
@@xwngdrvrPolly want a flyback.
I’ll show myself out.
Butt pirates don’t count. There are to many of them.
Then you _really_ don't need parrots on your shirt.
Rado Captain Cook?
Dear Mike, nice Tudor Pelagos FXD Black in your wrist! Looks really good on you!
Video coming up about it next week 😉
Is speedmaster white worth buying right now If I can get it at retail? I called the omega store at my city, and they said I can go pick it up right now.
Like he said, Speedmasters will generally sell under retail in the secondary market (with very few exceptions, like the Snoopy, or maybe the Ed White, which are much more limited in production). If you like it, if you’re ok with the price and you want it right away then go for it. If you’re willing to wait, then you could probably get it for cheaper.
If you like it? Yes. Definitely 😃
Having owned a white dial speedy for more than 2 decades, I would say yes. They do look great and if it suits your personality and makes you happy, go get em.
That aside, sometimes I do find it a bit too eye-catching, which isn't what I enjoy immensely.
Well said. No one cares what watch you wear except you. So as the man says, take your time. Buy what you like. Enjoy life.
I'm a fairly new subscriber and I think you hit the nail on the head woth every video I've seen. Just wanted to leave a comment and say your content and views/insights are brilliant 👏
Thanks for taking the time to comment. It is appreciated 😃
"You do you." Great advice.
Start of with a Casio F-91W :p
(I know this is opposite of the theme of this video)
I bought my first F-91 a couple of weeks ago, and it has really stirred up my relationship with watches.
It should last you forever.They just keep on..
@@EmeraldHill-vo1cs I have a feeling it will outlast me
Best thing about this watch is that it's unassuming and practically does everything you would require from a watch.
I have never had one, I do have a number of squares though and I usually wear of them alongside my other mechanical watches on both left and right wrists.... yes I m strange guy to some 😅
I just picked up my White dial - Speedmaster at a boutique this thursday, your thumbnail was a real heart-stopper there for a minute 🙈😅
Happy for you watch friend.
@@kehehaho thank you, that´s very kind to say!
I have two of the (original) TH Formula 1 watches, one with the jubilee type bracelet. They are tiny when compared to more contemporary watches, but the bracelet is very well made. Both have had new mvts fitted.
Enjoyable video as always. A couple of things I would add. One is that $1,500 may be high for a regular quartz watch, but for a high accuracy quartz watch such as a Citizen Chronomaster or Breitling Aerospace, it can be worthy of much higher price than that. Two, regarding Chinese homage watches, I would only dabble in it if the cost is such that you can eat it if it dies. I've been buying some homages lately and have no illusions about after sales service. It's basically gambling, but while they are working, it's fun to have some without spending a lot of money.
I agree with you. I’m shopping more on movements. I have a Direnzo eclipse with a stellita 200 movement. I’d like to try other movements and build a collection on calibers. Not just looks.
That's what I am thinking, if the watch dies, you put in a new movement. Not worth to service a NH35, a Myota 8 or even 9 series movement.
Thank you for a such great teaching. " You should always make up your own mind, If you like something , go for it". Today I won an eBay auction for a Sekonda USSR Poljot style gold plate vintage watch with a blue dial. I fell in love when I saw it, so I got it . May you be well and happy, with metta kindness
Red lacquer shoes. That’s a mental image that’s hard to get rid of. 😂
As we say, video of it didn’t happen
Off to see the Wizard?
Only when paired with the screaming pink chinos, brah.
IT was a phase.... Thankfully long before the advent of social media and digital record keeping 😂
They were Hugo Boss if I remember correctly. 😃😃
Just found your channel . I like how you speak . Enjoyed this one !
Thanks. Welcome aboard 😃
Wow! I agree every single word! Very well done! Chears from Austria!
You don't have to agree - Just enjoying the video is fine 😃
@@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch 🤣👍
You had pink chinos? Sheesh. There is a depth to your content, as can be seen in this excellent, opinionated, and well-reasoned list. Agree with your view of Bremont ; they're unlikely to ever be on my 'maybe' list - but part of me kind of hopes that one day they could be.
Pink chinos. Yessir. Burgundy velour jacket at one point as well 😂
I agree with mostly everything, EXCEPT the ROLEX commentary that "nobody cares". My experience with my daily two-tone black-dial Submariner has been the total opposite with 2-3 nice compliments per month from watch people, and normal humans as well :) . Love my Sub.
Buy what makes you happy. Your happiness is what people notice and is your greatest "accessory".
Well said!!!!!!
I bought a Chinese watch (Seagull 1963, not a replica) and one of the numerals had not been glued in properly. A watchmaker here quoted me X to put it right and I asked the Chinese manufacturer for that amount. They offered 1/3X which I refused and then said if I'd give them a 5 star rating and no bad press they'd pay X to my PayPal account. They were true to their word. A somewhat compromising deal but it sort of worked out.
How about the Grand Seiko 9f quartz?
I like mine. Gains about one second by the time I have to adjust for +/- DST, every six months.
I absolutely adore your brutal honesty and clear analysis. Great job Mike! My favourite watch channel.
Thank you, so very much 😃
Ahh from Wing zero to 00 raiser, the man has class.
More to come 😉😉😉
@@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch just finished up a MG red Zeta, top coated and all.
There are some Ali Express brands that give you a refund if there is a problem, no questions asked. The trick is only to find out which.
True - The trick is to find them 😃
Great videos as always . . . Some recent watch shopping . . .
1) Unwilling to buy a watch from a farm building only open on certain days AND their own customer star rating system (not trustpilot).
2) With another watch tried to buy a leather strap AND a metal bracelet - this was too difficult for the
watch company who did not seem to have part numbers for these items . . . only ad hoc arrangements
---- Eventually happy with a different watch brand. It pays to ask a lots of questions . . .
In addition to the oil filled models, a lot of Sinn watches have the dehumidifying technology, which fills the case with an inert gas while being assembled in a vacuum. I have a U2 with this feature as well as the copper sulfate capsules to absorb any moisture. I don’t think there is anyone but Sinn who would be able to really service the watch properly, despite it being a pretty pedestrian Sellita GMT movement.
"Have your staples in place first", great advise for long term watch collecting. Also, the Rolex advice. As Baldassarre said, "nobody cares about your damned watch". The reality is we're the only people who care about them.
And this is why I don't understand the fixation with dial diameter. If I like a watch with a 48mm dial I'll buy it and I'll wear it. I don't give a 4x what anyone else thinks - I don't wear any of my watches for others, unless it was a gift from the Mrs.
The only time I would care about what other people think of my watches is when I am sensing a potential of robbery happening.
As someone who recently purchased one of the 31 Tangente color combinations that Nomos released, I would echo your advice to be thoughtful about your purchase. The first color way I got looked really good in the online pictures, but in real life (where the 37.7mm dial looks different from the 5 to 6 inch dial in the online images), I was less enthusiastic about the watch. While it was nice, it felt a bit dull (for lack of a better word), and a bit duplicative (in terms of when I would wear it) with a couple of other watches that I own. After mulling things over for the weekend, I returned the watch, and ended up buying a different color combination. In both cases (as with all my watch purchases), I try to think through when (and how often) I'll wear the watch and whether it's an addition that's worth the price (to me). The first Tangente didn't hit the mark, the second one did.
Cant agree more with what you said sir, especialy the part about omega speedmaster hype and rolex status
I’m wearing a 2022 yellow gold daydate right now. Lol. I’m part of the problem!
lol 😂
Absolutly agree with you with any brands you coments,just perfect analysis..
Don't buy what Mayer and Sheeran already bought!
It's not very well talked about but one thing I would consider when buying a watch is whether I'll be able take it to an AD for servicing later down the road. I'm not considering buying a Grand Seiko only because I will have to mail it New Jersey to get it serviced.
Have been tempted by the Sinn Hydro. Initially I was put off by the fact Sinn felt an air bubble was OK.
Apparently that's no longer the case, and the special case back sounds cool, but agree with you that the whole Sinn network is a pain (UK here) and am sticking with my U212 now.
Love the brand but they have some oddities to their range too IMO.
Could not agree more for U50 Hydro. Biggest gripe for me is Ronda movement in that price range and based on forums, service times are bonkers with Sinn atm.
When I got the Sinn U50 Hydro I knew that I would need Sinn to change the battery but it will last almost 10 years and the legibility in and out of the water is superior to the U50. Accuracy was also crucial for me.
I have to say, after sending few watches to Frankfurt, it was fast, very profesional, and pleasant. So idk what the problem with hydro series
I have other watches that would tide me over the month or so it might take ... but I wouldn't want to see the bill for servicing an oil-filled model out of warranty.
I am another “Sinner”, and I have An 857 UTC that had the crown on the standard right side.
I live in the USA.
I also have a smallish 6.5 inch wrist and the large crown was annoying when it hit the back of my wrist. At 43mm the watch was too big for me in this configuration so I asked Sinn if they would flip the crown and they did it for a very reasonable price and quickly. It TRANSFORMED the wearability!
The result of this experience is that I would not shy-away from buying an oil filled UX or U50 Hydro just because it has to go to Frankfurt.
While the U50 Hydro would fit me better I would buy the UX because of its backstory and its superior quartz movement!
…just a thought!
Sinn are great. No doubt about it. 😃
Wow...finally, seriously good review and recommendations! Cheers!
Thanks a ton 😃
My first 2 watches were skeletons, one was maurice lacroix aikon 45mm masterpiece skeleton. The other was zenith defy classic skeleton. Both are good watches and I still wear them on regular basis 😊
Some of us can pull skeleton watch and other cool stuff. It takes confidence
Good for you 👍
@@zsb707 I didn’t mean myself :) it’s my observation. I’m quite the opposite: boring black dial watches and plain clothes, lol
@@petrokersta5293 My comment was to the OP with his two skeletons. I wouldn't buy one (in 2017 I purchased a Carrera Heuer 01, non-skeleton) but good for him ...
Got it! Definitely, I’m glad for everyone wearing and enjoying their watches!
Excellent advice!!!
Thanks for watching .😃
I own quite a few watches, including several Rolexes and an Underd0g ... and I 100% agree with everything in this vid: The Watermelon is a lot of fun, but it's not an everyday watch. Occasionally a watch nerd wants to see / talk about one of my less-common Rolexes, but nobody else cares. I'd hazard to guess that to 99% of people (probably more) all they see is 'Oh, look, she's wearing an old-timey boomer watch.'
If I’m doing business and I notice a watch I will comment very favorably about it. It has led to a better consumer experience. People eat it up.
Esp given that any watch not a smartwatch is definitely pre Zoomer.
U50 hydro thoughts were pretty interesting to me. It's a conundrum ive thought over recently.
Come to Asia and wear a Rolex instead. Asians will care 😂
Latin America same thing.
I lived in 3 countries in Asia for 10 years. Asians care in some places and others not so much. Those who care are usually insecure and need western made objects to compensate for their feelings of inadequacy in relation to "western" people no matter how much money they have. That's just stupid.
Most will assume you purchased from Palika Bazaar for 700 rupees.
Asians are mostly new money, except for the Japanese. Perfect candidates for Rolex.
@@vpsn99 sure. The fact that Asia bothers to mass produce replicas and sell them openly speaks volume.
It's also good - only the elites will know if it's a real thing while keeping robbery away
Great commentary and warnings. I’d add: the world economies are going to get worse before they get better - so if you’re going to buy a luxury watch on the grey market a) negotiate hard to get a better price; b) wait, because the sellers are going to have to lower prices.
Still waiting on your FXD video - why you bought it and what else you considered, what you like/don’t like after a month.
Regarding the Rolex, I think I would argue contrary to your point; you will get more attention from NON-enthusiasts rather than enthusiasts. I say that because everyone knows the name Rolex, even non-enthusiasts, and those people will associate the name with high status and will be more likely to be "impressed" just because of the name. As an enthusiast, if I were to see someone wearing a Rolex, I may ask about it, ask about their experience, and then move on. I think a non-enthusiast is more likely to be kind of "star-struck" because of the name Rolex.
Most people would think it's a cheap fake.
Rolex is the name even that non watch people know. That is why new money often buys a Rolex instead of (lets say) a Glashutte, Chopard or IWC. Rolex basicly is what Montblanc is for fountain pens. If you want to show off. It's the brand to go to. personally, I would be more impressed by a Patek Philippe or A A.Lange & Sohne.
I'm a similar vein, Rolex is the only expensive watch brand I can see on someone's wrist and not immediately know whether they're an enthusiast or not.
@@Zion-18 yeah, that’s true. If I see someone wearing an Oris or a Christopher Ward, I would feel a lot more confident assuming they are actually a watch enthusiast.
Rolex will get immediate attention
Excellent video thank you.
you are welcome 😃
Amazing video! Would love to see you discuss the Seiko Presage line, Citizen 1050 and 1060 line and your favourite everyday dress watches in this price category ($500 to $1500 USD).
Tag Heuer shouldn't cost more than a MoonSwatch just because it's better made. MoonSwatch is not a good reference as it itself is overpriced.
Those two annoying German dancers catching strays… love it
One is an Aussie. Now we know why this Saffer targeted them...
My favourite watch TH-cam channel this. Thank you for your thoughtful insights!!👌👍👍
One of the best short watch advise videos ever. Great job. 👍👍👍
Thanks 😃
Whew! I love the Santos. Dual time? Nope! Isn't the "regular" Santos coming with an in house movement, or does it come with a Sellita or ETA?
Everyone needs to bing on your channel, prior to spending any significant money on watches. Great work!
I agree about the Cartier Santos Dual time. The regular Santos on the other hand is on top of my list at the moment.
I am still on the fence. The "scratch magnet" reputation of the steel bezel is making me pause. Does this impact your decision in any way? I am just trying to gage the pulse of other fellow collectors.
@@dannysimenauer5745I bought the steel with ADLC bezel version and I love it. Initially I wanted to look at it because of the “scratch magnet” reputation the Santos had. When comparing side to side I actually fell in love with the dial, it’s both horizontally brushed in the center and then radially brushed outside the chapter ring, and it has a depth that doesn’t really come through in photos. To me, it made the white dial with printed numerals look a bit plain by comparison. Watch is super versatile, looks great on the bracelet and I bought a couple leather straps. Curved case is insanely comfortable on the wrist even with a butterfly and no micro adjustments.
@@dannysimenauer5745 It does not for me. I still want one. The Santos is just a classic icon with such an interesting history. I don't worry about the scratches, It depends how and when you wear the watch. I'm always very careful with my watches. I have a vintage Omega with an acryllic crystal that I have worn for years. and still no scratches on the crystal (or the case). And even if a scratch would happen. In worst case they can be buffed out.
@@dannysimenauer5745 it's not having any affect on my desire to purchase a Santos, at all. But I'm retired and don't subject my watches to the wear and tear that I used to.
I'm leaning towards the blue dial, as I, also, like the blue strap that comes with it.
Well, I purchased a fully tegimented Sinn U50 Hydro. Love the watch. Sending it to Sinn from the US will certainly be an added pain, but I figured I can live with that every 5-10 years. In my experience many premium brands also have fairly significant turnaround times, based on recent Breitling and Omega watch servicing in the US.
I had NO idea that the Santos is powered by a Selita Movement. You learn something everyday!-👌
Only the new dual time, the other ones have Cartier in house movements
Great advice!
Thanks for watching 😃
Cartier asks crazy money for quartz movement.
Hublot seems like an angel next to Cartier lol
Good design has its own value
Cartier asks crazy money for the Cartier Design. The Santos was such a good design that it still sells like hotcakes two decades after it was released and even inspired the design for the Apple Watch. You're not paying for the movement when you buy a Cartier watch, so it's not correct to compare them to other watchmakers in that regard.
@@MegaThucydides Indeed. Especially the Santos that has such a long history (designed 120 years ago.) And probable the first (if not, than at least one of the first) wristwatches for men that wasn't a modified pocketwatch.
A lot of the quartz watches they make are targeted towards women, who mostly don’t care about the movement, and probably prefer quartz due to the convenience.
@@Bu-22 Barely any men buy Cartier products, comparatively speaking.
What I’ve loved about your videos over the last year is the “look behind the curtain“ vibe that I got. I appreciated your insight and candid opinion. I always learned something. This video felt a bit like Clickbait and I didn’t learn anything.
I agree 100% with your assessment! Interesting video!
Glad you enjoyed it 😃
What is your thoughts on the Bell & Ross V2 line (non-square)?
I’m thinking of getting 8k the black speedmaster sapphire. Is it true these are often sold below retail? What is considered a good price for a new one?
Pretty much constantly under retail 😃
I love Tag but I would never buy an Kith. I had a Formula One as well. They were cool! I dont like skeleton watches generally so I am with you on that. I dont care for Cartier would not wear one if I owned it so I can agree with you there as well. I love those Sinn's but I wont buy one either! I hear you on the Nomos and SU... If you want color get a G-Shock. You are right. Rolex is good but meh. I might pick up the Terra Nova second hand. Seems rather sporty. Have a great weekend Mike!
My biggest problem with Kith is that basically nobody knew who they were. A niche "supreme" that have gained popularity in the US but virtually unknown everywhere else. All youtubers clearly had no clue who they were and had had to google what it was. It's cool and trendy but that's about it 😃
@@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch You are right. I still dont know who they are and I am not bothered enough to find out so why would I want them on my watch...
Great info. Especially about omega speed master and Rolex. 100% agree
Once again as usual enjoyed it… 👍👍👍
Really gone mad thinking should I buy the Panerai Radiomir Annual Calendar Platinumtech PAM01364 ? In love with it BUT they have priced it too high and thus the other watches come into play !!!! JLC IWC Mosier Czepak……
Thanks for the advice, Mr White
lol 😂😂
Beloved 80s watch that was costing 80 bucks and not 1500 EUR. What is TAG smoking exactly ?
TAG is laughing all the way to the bank. "What are the buyers smoking?" is the real question.
There's always someone ready to buy apparently 😃
Very interesting approach and I like that you call out actual watches instead of watch types you shouldn't buy. However, I disagree with the Sinn U50 Hydro. This, for me is the ultimate tool watch with its maximum resistance, rubustness, legibility and accuracy and Sinn doing a great job servicing them. But, I may be biased since I live in Frankfurt. Cheers!
Fair enough on the hydro - I thinks it's a great watch but I do feel that for new buyers these highly featured specialty watches are not always the best option. If you're way down the rabbit hole of Sinn - then it's a whole other story 😃😃😃
Fun video. I got some good laughs as many of the watches on your list are ones I cannot understand how anyone would buy them.
Yes. Why? 😉
Does your distaste of the U50 Hydro extend to the UX series, which is also oil-filled?
I have zero distaste for the Hydro. I think it's cool, but for a regular watch buyer I feel it has a level of potential impracticality built in that is worth considering before buying. Especially when there is a version of the same watch without those concerns 😃
Tag Heuer teamed up with Mike Tyson 🤣
Lamborghini teamed up with Technics . $400 more for a different colorway and a limited edition record lol
Truly a great no nonsense channel - builds my awareness of the industry and what's is really out there. Yo Mike have you ever surfed J-Bay?
Thanks. Yes... but it's been a very very very very very very long time since I last surfed, let alone in SA. Last time i stood on a surfboard was in Hawaii at diamond head in 2007. Almost got myself killed 🤦♂️
to much text on the bremont feel the same about tudor pelagos 4 lines of text is just ridiculous
Same for the Rolex Submariner. 6 lines of text.
I love the days since last incident. Keep that up! And you gotta let us know what it was when the counter resets
Next week I'll be doing a review of my most recent purchase 😉
@@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch Love that!
Love this topic
happy to hear it 😃
I had never been a "watch guy". I don't know what possessed me, but one day, about two years ago, I just said, "I want a watch." Not being an enthusiast, I started looking at looking at watches that were between $75-150 bucks. First, I discovered Vostok, and fell in love with something called the "Amphibia." Secondly, I then discovered modding, and thirdly, decided to build my own Amphibia from genuine Vostok parts. Needless to say, I caught the bug, and the rest is history. Today, I have two Amphibias I've built, a Komandirskie 65 "R2-D2", a Seiko 5 that sucks, a Citizen Eco-Drive 1430, and a Steeldive SD1953. TL;DR: Two years later, I've got a 6 watch collection that I'm proud of, and didn't have to spend a whole hell of a lot of money.
The white Speedmasters are already available at my local boutique (Bangkok). The SA even said she could get me a 321 Ed White immediately if I was willing to bundled the two watches.
I've had a few comments from people in asia saying they don't really sell in asia 😃😃
Fashion icon 😂
But of course. 48. pale. male. stale 😂
Wow you're spot on about Rolex. I have a friend who wears a Submariner. It's really a good quality & gorgeous watch. But every time when we go out, be it business seminar or just for fun, no one talks to him about his Submariner. Only Rolex enthusiasts would talk to him about his watch, or the process of buying a Rolex. My Hamilton X-wind sparked more conversation with random people than his Submariner. But I gotta say, when he ran into other Rolex people, their conversation are very enthusiastic. You really have to be into that stuff to understand.
Tisso will sell a mech prx for 600..500 new on other sites
A little harsh perhaps re reliability of Chinese watches - maybe not in terms of Chinese Sugess/Seagull movements (but they're still good movements), but surely for the Seiko V63 NH35 etc. movements.
great video mate! I literally agree with everything you said, like you read my mind :D the only people you might impress with a watch, are robbers, or a few watch enthusiast if you hang out with them. No one else, trust me. Buy watches that you like, that make you happy, and that you will wear. Because wrist watches are made to be warn.