Citizen isn't Holding Back...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ค. 2024
- Citizen is not messing around. If you are looking for the best watch $500 can buy today, this is my vote.
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PRX style bracelet with Grand Seiko vibe dial. I feel like they understand the community better..
Then they should offer an option of Tsuyosas without a cyclops.
Then ruin it with separate seconds hand, integrated bracelet, and octagon shaped case. I want something like SBGY007 under 1000$.
The clasp the part ot the watch that the wearer interacts with the most. So, watch manufacturers need to stop cheaping out on their clasps especially on watches with integrated bracelets. Instead of giving me a display caseback for an unremarkable movement, just put a solid caseback and a better clasp.
Agreed 💯
💯 if they release a new version with butterfly clasp I will definitely buy it . I'm pretty confident that they will correct that mistake because they listened to thier costumers and fixed that default on the Tsuyosa small seconds.
Not to mention display caseback either brings WR down, Increase thickness or both, making it sit little higher on the wrist.
I gotta disagree with this one. As long as the clasp doesn’t fail, doesn’t really matter to me. We interact with it 1 second a day, assuming you wear the watch all day.
Never not bought a watch because of the clasp... But certainly will immediately exclude a watch as an option if it has a solid caseback and it isn't for acoustic purposes like in a minute repeater or alarm watch.
I'm glad to see Citizen stepping up their game, but I also think its criminal that since they also own Bulova, they haven't applied their Eco-Drive technology to the Lunar Pilot. Imagine the marketing for a Solar Powered Lunar Pilot. Here's hoping the YT review channels start asking Citizen about this.
man.. watching your videos is a good enough fix to keep the watch addiction at bay. There is always a new watch and there is always something missing… which leads to the continual search
I prefer citizens eco drive
what about the eco do you like? im curious because im interested in buying a citizen
@@sealedindictment I’m into solar and citizen is the leader in this field . I have plenty of automatic watches and lately started expanding my collection to solar powered. Just bought a Casio mud man last week
@@sealedindictment Got myself an AQ4020-54y and I love it so so much
There is an eco driver version of this watch
me too 😀
Eco drive 3 hand white dial on my list! Snow flake for a fraction of the price
I bought it. I like it. But, I hope it has little smaller case or dial. It looks little big.
Beautiful honest revew . Beautiful watch . Many thanks
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Citizen is definitely the new king of affordable watches. Great job from Citizen, I even like their AW0130 line even more.
Toyoza haha. Sounds like a Toyota. Should be “Tsuyosa” Max haha…😂😂😂
Bought one for a friend's birthday, great value for money. Ways lighter than the Tsuyosa but yes it misses the butterfly clasp and the movement finishing from the small second Tsuyosa which would make that a watch a all time hit
They should release a 37mm with Ecodrive!
I would instantly buy it.
Citizen needs to make a 1000 to 1500 dollar version of this. What they've done for $500 is very impressive, so much so that I want to see them release a more refined version at 2-3x the price.
Well said. Completely agreed.
Put in the series8 movement.
Titanium. 39mm. Better bracelet clasp. Sold.
No one will buy a 1500 dollar citizen. Not for a few next years at least
Though not similar to the watch reviewed in this video, Citizen actually has come up with a very expensive (relative to their collections) watch line already: The CITIZEN. If I'm not mistaken, it costs > USD2,000. So, if you're looking for a very expensive Citizen, there's an option.
@vankodoq have you tried one on? I'm curious to see how good it is
@@TMansWorld101 Unfortunately no. To be very honest, I have never seen the piece in its physical form with my own eyes. ^^)a
Max. Rapidly becoming one of my top 5 content providers. Thanks for your efforts.
Thank you for making high quality videos!Love amzwatch ’s watches
I own a Oceanus OCW-S100-1AJF that appears to spec out very similar to the eco drive version of this watch with great accuracy
Citizen watches are getting better ❤❤❤
They’ve always had some great ones. They have mass market crap too, but you don’t have to buy those.
"A pattern that looks like it can grate cheese" HA!! This is a great description of the 12. Lots to like, but not my jam.
Instead of these large corps using focus groups with people that have no watch knowledge. They should tap into watch crunch. With a 9015 and a milled clasp… home run! Good review.
The blue and the white are my favourites...
Good one. Nice articulated video
amzwatch You are so well-informed about luxury watches. You've obviously done your due diligence and the comparison to the US is very informative...because of course, I live in New York. thank you very much
I like it and do consider. Looks a little like the beater version of the Zenith Defy Skyline.
An another note, listening to this video while wearing headphones the background music is very loud and distracting. Would be great to tune it down next time.
Thanks a lot and keep it coming! 💪🏻
Been watching your videos for a while now and was inspired to start a collection. Started with the mamacoo, its specs for price and clean looks, now am looking for a dress watch to add.
I think people are slow to implement the "Collections" feature...I really like it and appreciate all you do for the website!
I personally don't see an issue with a stamped clasp. It's functionally identical to a milled one, and you can't see or feel the difference when the watch is on your wrist or in your watch box.
But you know 🤔
@@WatchCrunchOfficial But we dont know. Is there really a difference, or is it a matter of principle?
@@bertholdbach4959 I'm with you milled clasps are thicker and heavier. Everyone cums over Rolex yet so many came with the crappiest folded link stamped bracelets into the 2000's
@@WatchCrunchOfficial
You also know there’s a horrible 20 bucks movement inside. You simply can’t have good exterior finish and real substance at this price point.
On the fly adjustment is way higher on the list for me as a want rather then stamped vs milled.
I have an old citizen eco-drive. 30 years old. Same clasp. Simple. Works! Nice! Do not fix what's not broken! And a few days ago, I bought eco-drive version of this - Citizen Zenshin AW0130-85L. Just love it. Dial like WOW!
Just when I thought I was satisfied with my watch collection for now…I must add a Forza to the collection soon. Thanks for the recommendation, videos are awesome, just subscribed.
Riviera is Fu..ing briliant watch,all in satin steel and with probably the best pound to pound movement on the market,gorgeous watch.
to me, it’s a must-have for the era … only a matter of which color😅 mine is the jade stone
Citizen are really making some compelling watches, their designs are really on point right now. Six months ago I would have politely bypassed Citizen, but now these Forzas are incredible.
Citizen are killing it, stellar looks, fabulous materials and even better value. I prefer all my watches to be 10 ATM. As for the Direnzo, it has it's charm too, but it's going to be far more expensive, is stainless steel and so will feel differently on the wrist as it weighs 50% more. Citizen has a the NJ0180-80M which would be my preferred watch out of them all.
It’s almost perfect. I might grab the green dial. Hopefully some third party straps are hitting the market soon for this watch.
got the mint dial version a month ago for a good price, absolutely love it
That clasp just kills the watch unfortunately. Incidentally I've just ordered a drz04 mondial so glad you brought that up!
Great video, very accurate analysis. In my 4.5 years in the game as a watch collector and enthusiast, I collected a lot from MaMaCoo I was thinking I was able to get a blue SD but I'm not vip enough, but I'm not giving up. Hehe. Great video.
just have mine with the white dial, amazing under sunlight😍
I have never been disappointed since I became a customer of amzwatch. Their watches are of exceptional quality.
I agree with you on CW's "The12": nice, but the dials are somehow "too much" for my taste. I really like the SW300-1 that they put in the titanium "The12s" too. I've really warmed up to titanium since I got my Citizen Promaster Land AT6080-53L. It's just insanely comfortable. If I bought a gold or tantalum watch I'd want to feel that weight on my wrist, but man there's something to be said for a watch that you can hardly feel on your wrist. That Citizen on its titanium bracelet is comfier than anything else I own, whether it's on a bracelet or FKM strap. So that brings me to "The Citizen" AQ4091-56L. I believe I need to have that watch. I definitely see more titanium watches in my future.
This is literally a PRX KILLER! Gave my PRX to a buddy a while back, but always missed the style. Ordered this watch immediately when I saw it.
Been watching your videos for a while now and was inspired to start a collection. Started with the MaMaCoo , its specs for price and clean looks, now am looking for a dress watch to add.
I don't know if I'm crazy or something, but the PRX still has my heart over the Tsuyosa and over the Forza. Maybe it's the waffle dial, I don't know, but it oozes luxury to me in a way that these don't. I don't know what it is.
Love this review! I do wish they had an option with the green dial from the other release, it’s a very traditional Japanese color (very popular in 90s, brings back nostalgia) really looking to fill that green dial void in my line up.
It definitely caught my attention upon release, especially the variant reviewed here. I am definitely considering one. I like the Twelve quite a bit, but the titanium model is not pocket change. Interesting comment about the F77. I have not tried them on, but the Lapis Lazuli variant looks great. I think I will hold off on that until I can get hands on one. As for integrated bracelet watches, I think it has gone beyond the trend and is now basically a style of watch, like pilot, field, etc. Even if it is not always the flaming hot desirable watch style, a well executed variant will always look good on the wrist.
That’s absolutely beautiful! The clasp is ridiculous but whatever. I have the 40mm PRX I got it when they first dropped the auto and it’s still the best overall package for the price.
This is easily watch of the year. I got the NJ0180-80A. It is soo good!!
Good daily wrist driver. No watch is perfect and if it fits the wallet, you learn to live with its foibles.
This looks great.
The main issue I have is that once I've worn a bracelet with on-the-fly micro-adjustment, I can't wear one with out.
Dial texture, Titanium and offset subcounter are cool. But why oh why is a great Japanese brand falling for the very long in the tooth Genta thing ?
Now we need to wait for the version two with a proper clasp... Deja-vu anybody?
Hello and thanks for this video. I really like what Citizen is doing these last years. But not this watch. Because the dial is meaningless. The brand name at 12 ? Ok. A date window at 3 ? Not necessary, but ok. But wtf a small second at 5 and a model name beetwen 8 and 9 are for ? ... This way the dial, imho, is clearly unbalanced.
It looks amazing. I want one.
Completely agree!!!
Great review!
I haopened to stumble upon this watch I rhink yesterday and I had the photos side by side. Thought to myself - I really like the way this watch looks! But heres a question - not going crazy expensive - whatbwould you recommend if you wanted to step up in quality?
And the Direnzo with that color is sold out...
citizen has the potential to be a serious watch brand and not just a shopping mall glass case brand
Citizen getting the recognition it has so sorely lacked. Promaster chronomaster and their JDM models have been so overlooked
Great watch and another great video man
Damn. If it had killer AR it would be so much nicer. But I'm going to get the green or blue version at some point anyhow. You can't expect everything for a relatively reasonable price. If they gave it good AR, an on-the-fly adjustable clasp and a 9-series movement, it would be perfect even for a lot more money. But actually I'm kinda glad they made it more entry-level. A more reasonably priced watch can be enjoyed more worry-free, and this is a sports-watch after all.
I’m excited to use the Collections feature on WC!
I just hope the hype for this watch doesn't leak outside the watch enthusiasts. I don't want to gatekeep, but I saw what happened with the Moonswatch and its price hike due to scalping.. Hopefully, that won't happen with Citizen..
Citizen definitely makes fantastic affordable watches.I bought an eco drive chronograph 12 years ago,works just like the day I bought it
i like your video
u pointed out every positive and negative very wise
thank you
Id be curious to see how this compares to the citizen nb1050, its pretty much around the same price. Definitely prefer the 9000 series movement though if i was going to pay over half a grand for a watch. Nonetheless the design of this watch is outstanding imo.
9000 would be stellar
It's just ok. I will see one in hand this month and maybe that will change my mind but I don't see myself buying it.
Looks awesome
That thin ass stamped clasp on a $500 watch is NUTS💀
This kind of shit belongs on $70 dollar Casio watches.
Not sure if you know wut u talking about, those "PRX" Casios are feels like 5$ fake-metal clumsy shiet, Citizen even tho overpriced still feels like solid thing.
Yummy asymmetry on this one, but I just got the Tsuyosa small seconds in stainless steel.
The video is good. the impressions are valid. the watch, not so much. That said, if you are a PRX fan, then this one will appeal to you.
I used to care about stamped clasps but honestly my dad has had a Rolex Blusey for 30 years with a stamped clasp and it still works just fine. Milled would be cooler but I wouldn’t let it be a deal breaker for anyone who’s considering this watch.
When people are saying #amzwatch is a better option for buying a watch,I very much agree!
Na, its like the PRX all over again. Saw rave review after rave review and when I tried it on, it failed to meet expectations.
My ‘97 Explorer has a stamped clasp (honestly worse than this one) and I’ve only ever cared about it when I’ve read that other people do. Just a thought for everyone.
I have the aikon and am happy with that.
I'm so happy, as a contrarian, that the "integrated bracelet" thing is over for watch snobs. I'm on the side of, bracelets cover more of the wrist then the dial, so it matters! While straps are OK, they seem to be almost irrelevant compared to the watch itself, except for comfort. #LongLiveTheBracelet
How about an episode FEATURING the bracelets that are most delightful???
What is your opinion on the Fredriqiue constant highlife ? The salmon dial looks good. Is it worth at its price ? New one available at 40 percent off retail.
I own a Direnzo Mondial red dial and it’s executed very well, and so I can’t justify spending more money on a similar watch, but this citizen looks like a good product except for the clasp
Looks way better than the tacky PRX. Anyone that buys the PRX over this needs a checkup
the dial looks great! I do wish it was smaller though, like 39, or even better at 38mm.
And why offset the small seconds??
The offset small seconds is one of the reasons I like it. It’s fun.
@@AlbeeBarrett fair enough. We all can’t like the same things
@@AlbeeBarrett I'm the opposite it's the thing that kills it for me. I love everything else. I don't do quartz so I'll probably get a Christopher Ward instead.
Once they knock off a few mm from this watch I’ll buy it
I'm so excited for what Citizen will release next. It's been banger after banger.
Great video, very accurate analysis. In my 4.5 years in the game as a watch collector and enthusiast, I collected a lot from mamacoo I was thinking I was able to get a blue SD but I'm not vip enough, but I'm not giving up. Hehe. Great video.
When people are saying #mamacoo is a better option for buying a watch,I very much agree!
A Miyota 8-series with a pressed clasp is a "trade up" from a PRX? That gets a chuckle.
Titanium and a unique attractive dial make this worthy of consideration. I'm hanging on to my PRX, though.
Citizen change all the image of the brands,thanks to tsuyosa model,they are all great,nice and good quality,lot of my friend worn it proudly,my question is: did the acuracy of this automatic citizen is good?
It’s not bad actually. Mine is within 10 spd. Same movement, different watch.
I wish this wasn't an integrated bracelet. I already have the PRX, an FC Highlife and a Perception.
i own a prx and well i never thought the tsuyosa looked better esp the bracelet no matter how many vids hype that watch haha
The moment you opened that clasp- I choose to pass on the purchase. Thank you for the review.
Not selling my PRX p80. Pd 500 2 yrs ago on a cruise. Not paying more for the quasi upgrade. Maybe a CW12 in the future. Maybe not. Wear my PRX every week.
I just bought a tsuyosa small seconds like a week ago. Now i want this instead 😭😭
LoL me too 😢
Seiko speedtimer chronograph I think around this price range is the GOAT
I love the eco drive version
I just got into watch collecting. I've loved watches since I was young but I never had anyone teach me or bring deeper into the world. amzwatch brought closer to a community and hobby I always wanted to get into more and that is incredibly meaningful to me !
I am not going to sell my PRX. I will get a Forza in addition. I also don't see an issue with a stamped deployant style clasp whatsoever. It's a non-issue. A butterfly clasp may look classier when opened, but at the end I do not consider the clasp when deciding on which watches to buy.
When it comes to fine imitation watches, MaMaCoo delivers. I've bought from them several times, and I've never been let down.
I can’t wait to get my green one
The clasp also disappointed me, but I’m still getting one
With a colour matched date window it would be perfect ✊🏼
Yes, or even a black date wheel!
@@WatchCrunchOfficialyeah, a black date wheel would've matched nicely with the black chapter ring
Thanks for this excellent video Max! I was wondering what your thoughts might be regarding the new Citizen 365 watches? I realize they are probably not for everyone, and the 365 days of power reserve may only be an interesting gimmick, but when I saw one at the AD I was drawn to the unique industrial appearance of the integrated case and bracelet, especially when combined with the faux aventurine dial. The main thing that kept me from purchasing it was the black plastic-looking bezel.
Citizen is really a great company, if you allow yourself to get to know it better. Loved this one.
They've been on a roll lately 👍
I would probably never sell my prx, the watch fits too perfect for my to let it go, the irony of it is when service time comes I would rather buy a Le Joux Perriet G100 (Citizen's swiss made high end movement) and retro fit it. This idea comes from me wanting to learn and be able to service my own watches, the powermatic 80, good as it is, cannot be serviced by conventional means.