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I have liked the BMW Three Series over the last forty years or so and am quite happy to see a hybrid version, especially one that fits the bill as well as this one. Thanks for the great review and stats on the car.
Great review, well filmed, keep 'em coming!
Preconditioning the interior for Canadian winters while plugged into provided outlets is my biggest attraction to this trim.
Great review. Seen you reviews by chance before. But now subscribed due to great substance
why are you still only on 16k subs???... it doesnt make sense given quality of delivery and production.....
Great review. Very detailed, none of the forced comedy or endless blurb you get with a lot of car review channels. Very well shot also 👍
hybrid cars are the best way forward... no doubt about it. Batteries bigger than 16 KWH are extremely expensive, heavy, etc. And fuel engine is needed whenever you are leaving home and driving to a hotel or somewhere else
I’ve had mine for a month now - it’s great. I’m getting about 28 miles in the cold - heating on with some motorway speed driving - very impressed
But a Tesla Model 3 is around the same price, quicker, cheaper to run (like £1000 a year cheaper) and has better tech! Plus you pay less road Tax and BIK tax if that is applicable. So you must love BMW? Next car when u sell this one?
Simon Yapp the model 3 is way more expensive to lease plus I like the look and interior of the bmw more
Simon Yapp the lease rates were not good compared to bmw, for me at least when I asked...?
Mind if I ask you how many miles can it do on battery power alone on a motorway at 70mph and how mpg will it do in hybrid mode thanks
@@simonyapp The Model 3 is also noisy, the central display position is awkward, the rear seat position for passengers is far from ideal and build quality is...inconsistent. Tesla cut too many corners making it.
Do you know where to find the key for the locking wheel nuts? I do because I had a puncture and had to try to find it, nothing was said in the handbook, the lady at BMW assistance said "have to tried the glovebox" (yes I had), I looked inside the tyre inflation kit and found a polystyrene block with a cutout shape of the key, but no key in it. Then my wife remembered the salesman had to show us when we got the car a year ago. In the boot there is a black plastic box at the side which contains the first aid kit and tyre inflation kit, remove them, look into the box carefully and you will see it has a false floor, find where it clicks into place and remove it, and there is your key for unlocking the wheelnuts, inside the secret compartment. What a great place to hide stuff, just what I needed when I had a puncture.
I later found it in the handbook under O for "On-board toolkit"
Best review . I have enjoyed it like i use to in my childhood watching car reviews . Its too amazingly filmed and well scripted
Awesome vid !
Does the 2019 have ambient lighting or is that the 2020?
Hi,
In the beginning of the video, where you were talking about changing the vehicle. It was showing 21 miles on the speedo meter but during the video in your you said you got about 31 miles.
I am interested in buying this car. Can anyone explain there's difference......?
Great review, keep up the good work mate!
I've had mine nearly 4 months now, being an urban commuter it's on electric most of the time. My best pure electric range was 34 miles, worst (in very heavy traffic and winter weather) was 18, and on petrol only I got 42 mpg. Overall average is 121 mpg. I went for the Sport instead of the M-Sport and saved a big chunk of my money because I get the same gadgets and drivetrain without paying extra for the bodykit and hard suspension. And it's list price is under £40k so I don't get hammered on extra road tax. PS Melbourne red is lovely.
Anyoldion does it self charge when driving? Many thanks
@@Hazzer20 yes, there is a graphic display which shows how energy is moving between petrol engine, electric motor, battery, and wheels that shows what is happening in real time. But in petrol and htbrid modes most of the energy goes to the wheels rather than the battery, so go on a long run and you will end up with some charge rather than a full one.
Anyoldion forgive me if I sound stupid but if the hybrid battery is depleted. Is the cars max power capped at the engine power I.e 180ish bhp or is the full engine + electric motor together at all times ?
@@mraeece Good question, and I think the answer is that the battery is never fully depleted, so you almost always have the full 290 available to you, but in practice you never use 290 for more than a few seconds, and when your foot is off the gas then the battery is being topped up, ready for the next time you call out for 290. But yes, if the battery is properly flat then you only have 180 bhp. Likewise if you've got no petrol then you've only got 110 bhp from the electric motor.
@@nowiplay2 no, you could leave it in hybrid mode permanently and it would run fine, I think some lazy people do that, but that's not using it the right way. You might as well get a toyota self-charging car which does the same thing, but your mpg will be way less than if you plug it in each night, think about 45 mpg vs my 118 mpg. You need to drive as much on electric as possible, so you need a big charge and a big battery, and a petrol engine can't deliver that at the same time as driving the car, it only gives a trickle, so the overnight charge gives the car a massive head start each morning, and the car will do your first 20-30 miles on electric before switching to hybrid. Hope this helps.
I'm looking at the 330e touring.
hi.. does anyone know why you need to charge up a hybrid? i thought hybrids re-charge themselves. is it simply just for more charge capacity so it lasts longer?
It’s an option, plug in hybrid could charge their battery via cable or normal driving. So you could a save more on gas if you are only doing short trips.
Mine tops out at 18 miles fully charged ... trip to the dealership required I think.
Love the new 3 series design
Yes! I could not stand anything past 2004/5
Callusny This design actually pays homage to the e46 (headlights for example)
Why don't they have a station wagon version???
Could you tell me the mileage I could get on a full tank without any charge ? Mostly driving on tha Autobahns?
Autobahn in India ? Lol
great video too :)
So if you buy a used one 3 years old say , then the battery is fucked in 3 years ?
Who are you and where have you been? Your delivery is superb👍🏾.
Can someone tell me does the electric motor assist the petrol engine to gain higher mpg on the motorway or is it the case once you increase over a certain speed the car is powered only by the petrol engine ! I'm anxious to know what mpg it can achieve on the motorway at 70mph !!!
I have a Golf GTE and if your on the motorway and in hybrid mode it does do some assistance - for example when braking or slowing down, it cuts the engine and puts charge in the battery. As you start to accelerate back to up speed it uses a bit of the battery to assist before firing up the engine again, all very seamlessly. As for MPG, I can't speak for the BMW, but in my car o the motorway it close to 60mpg. It doesn't sound huge, but add that to round town and short drives I get around 200mpg, it works out to be a very economical car.
@@m.r.a.c.m thanks anton thats v helpful and what capacity petrol engine is your GTE ?
RK SBK it’s a 1.4 petrol.
I've had my 330e for a couple of weeks now. It will accelerate up to 68 MPH on electric only, provided you haven't put your foot to the floor in which case the ICE will kick in. Once over 68 in Standard Hybrid mode, its ICE only although as the other reply surmises, off-throttle it will go into charge mode (severity of which can be managed by manipulation of the throttle, or if you put it in Eco Hybrid it will glide by default rather than charge)). An average day for me, the first 4 miles or so are urban (electric only) then its 30 -40 miles or so motorway / dual carriageway, some of which is quite congested to closer I get to the city, followed by town or city driving until its time to go home (I work in sales, visiting clients). Depending on where I am going, and how long I am parked, I can sometime get the battery charged up at my destination, but more often or not I cant so its the initial overnight charge, and then only what the regenerative breaking can scavenge throughout the day. Fully charged range is currently about 27 miles BUT it has been really cold here (Central Scotland) since I got it so I'm expecting better in warmer weather. I'd say an average day is 100 miles travelled, the car tells me I'm doing about 30-35 miles of those as electric and since I got the car its average MPG is 56. On days when I can get it charged at both end, that come up closer to 80mpg. For comparison, my Merc 220d was getting 53MPG on the same route.
@@KeveeGee awesome reply 👍
I have the 2020 model and you only get 26 miles from the battery and not the 37 claimed. Bit disappointing but still a good car though
Can she actually see over the dash ?
Glad they’ve increased the battery pack and your getting more range. Sadly at over £40k though you will be paying luxury car tax prices. So much for going slightly green here. I do love BMW’s but feel like they have scrimped on standard spec here with no electrically adjustable drivers seat and adaptive cruise as standard.
Mark Gaudie Founder of Northwest England EV Owners it’s under £40k
BHBeckenbauer bonus!!!
Thanks but no comment or demo of what its like to drive in pure electric mode? This is useful to know if it's practical for a short daily commute. Does it pull off like a fat snail in pure EV mode?
William Pearce drives really well in pure electric and goes like stink off the line from a standing start! 👍
@@DavidThomas-bv5nz I can second this, its certainly no slouch!
I wan to buy used please
Correction, all models have the same screen
I have 320i M and I have same as this screen, which is awesome
A Z pretty sure 316 se comes with the 8 inch screen
Not all engines get the bigger screen as standard. It depends on the country tho. Here everything that isn't a 330e or m340 get the smaller screen and analog dials as standard
Does anyone know how much MPG the petrol engine gets on its own? I know the review said around 40mpg - can anyone confirm?
I saw one of these today in Oxford - It did make me look
Did u see it in cowley road 🤣🤣🤣😂
*VOLVO XC60 T8 (0-100 kph 5,3 seconds!*
BMW should add Xdrive with an electric motor at the front with at least 80 pure electric miles.
They already have xdrive systems, they just go through the conventional transmissions. If you want a full ev you may find the upcoming i4 a nice alternative, though beware since it isn’t designed from the ground up to be an ev - sharing the same platform as the non-bespoke 4 series gran coupe - it loses out on interior space and practicalities seen in completely bespoke ev architecture.
This or Alfa Gulia? That's the dilemma
Derv all the way
it shows 21 miles under fully charged... (2:05) so WTF? what is the real EV range? half of the range that was claimed by BMW?
Depends on what you're doing, crawling through traffic jams in winter with lights and heater on I only get 18 miles from the battery but on a steady run through the countryside in September I got 34. The computer display is based on your recent driving. Overall I'm doing 75% of my driving on electric and my combined average mpg is 118, which the same as saying 25% of miles on petrol at 30 mpg and 75% on electric at zero mpg. I'm happy with that, and it goes like stink and looks good.
The number depends on the driver habits, AC, weather....
Being a review unit it has probably sern lots of hard driving to test the car, so it will show a lower range because it expects the driver to keep doing it
You get a used Model S for that price...
Just another legacy auto manufacturer showing their age and inability to adapt to market demand. Model 3 dominated before this hybrid and this will probably be the death of it.
unlike Tesla or any other EV focused startups that only makes cars for US or europe BMW makes cars for 95% of the world, in case you haven't notice most of those countries still not EV ready yet, probably not for another 10 years, so BMW and other "legacy manufactures" still have time to develop EVs
@@hellmekun I'm not a Tesla fan but your obviously aware that Tesla have a factory in China , soon to have one in Germany ! Teslas software and hardware is years ahead of it competition, they don't advertise ( yet everyone knows the brand) .
There quality is known to be continually improving , simply put they are the brand other car manufacturers want to be.
hellmekun .. Sorry but the tesla brand takes over
Amen
@don storm only the early versions. Tesla owners have a very high satisfaction rate. Autopilot, free updates, no emissions, Supercharging network, safest car ever tested, fast, beats BMW by miles
I have now had one of these for a couple of weeks, I would question the numbers you quote on electric range as mine has only delivered 25 miles max, the more I drive the lower it goes with each charge cycle.
David Thomas wit till summer and you will see the range increase again
Mark Gaudie Founder of Northwest England EV Owners currently the charge is only 19 miles, considering the reviews all reckon it should deliver 37 miles, that seems to be out of reach on current performance.
U didn't want model 3 tesla!.... Must be similar money
sunsetlights100 wasn’t an option....
David Thomas I'm getting between 38 and 41 km, depending on temperatures. Sometimes the range will indicate 46 km when setting off only to drop by 5 when driving the first km. Battery range indicator is also not linear at all... When I took delivery in September, 45 km real range was not uncommon. I wonder how it will behave in spring.
Shame it's such a tiny battery. That's the problem with hybrids... neither one thing nor the other. AND it still has that hump for the drive shaft, taking up space..
Alex McKenna it fits the bill for buyers who are unsure about going fully electric. Once you’ve had a PHEV your likely to get a fully electric car for your next purchase.
@@markgaudie80 only if that PHEV was owned for that reason. The UK government are introducing tax breaks for company car drivers to encourage them into EV which in turn should increase the supply in the used market. At the moment the cost of used EV which meet the needs of a family are few and far between. Leaf is maybe the best option. The Zoe battery rental seems prohibitive against the value of buying used.
No wonder Tesla is eating their lunch. 36 mile range with a 60K warranty? Both should be double that for the money they want. Their own 300d is the better bet if you have to have a BMW.
I seen her in that car today on M62 she was checking me out
don’t lie mate
The quality of these reviews is really good but could overall benefit from adding a sense of ... humour. In other wording: it's fifth gear now, with humour it could become top gear-ish :-)
Yes, she is a bit stiff
The stiffness is nice however because it means it’s actually a review not an actors piece.
40 mpg is bad. My last BMW, a 320D ED that was 9 years old did 68mpg. How are they progressing backwards?
Clive Flint yes but that’s a diesel I think your missing the point here. We are trying to get away from diesel.
I thought we were trying to reduce CO2. Getting worse MPG isn’t achieving that
@@SirHackaL0t. moving away from diesel is less about CO2 and more about NOX and particulates.
@@matthewrichardson666 I get that NOx is important but so is CO2 and CO2 seems to now be an 'issue' any more. Yet the world gets warmer.
Bmw does not do anything for me anymore. I can’t tell what the difference is between this and a Camry going down the road now which is a shame. That’s why I bought the Volvo. The material in this car felt cheap the very plastic consol annoyed me and I felt that this on test shuttered over bumps.
After hundreds of independent tests, this car actually emits 3 times the hydrocarbons that BMW claim, and only averages 51mpg !!!
I'm a massive BMW serial owner, love the brand, but the claims about this care have now been proven to be absolute bs.
I like the fat steering wheel .
Y does it have a exhaust outlet when it is a electric car.
gokul arjunan it’s got a 2 litre turbocharged engine, so it still needs an exhaust
My Dad Has This Car But Next Year He’s Getting A Polestar. WOWO!
for the price just buy Tesla Model 3 (they even charge you for the cable)
The Model 3 is both more expensive and one or two classes below the 3 series. Doesn’t make sense in my opinion.
Fast forward 4 years and I wonder if all the Tesla and EV fanboys are still singing the same tune, after range anxiety, cold weather blues, high repair & insurance costs, and charging infrastructure nightmare. Tesla has cut prices to boost sales, and sales of EV in general have levelled off.
60,000 mile battery warranty ha ha ha
gazz robb yes I feel this is quite low. But I’m pretty positive the battery will be just fine for well over 100k miles and 12 plus years without issue providing it isn’t neglected as used as it should be.
If you get in,take your time or you could find yourself very quickly coming to a sticky end!😉
She sounds like she's gonna burst into tears any moment...
If you don´t mind the running costs and are used to your BMWs, this is going to be OK for you. It does not excel at EV range and will not amaze proper petrolhead. I am wondering, Tesla can do long distance trips and cheaper. It costs about the same. Making this kind of car really only shows that BMW don´t have battery suppliers or are stuck in the past.
That’s why I stop buying BMW, you even can not get an adaptive cruise control, where is head up display, etc. for that price.
Sorry.....
Exactly
Adaptive cruise control should be standard in all cars. I can imagine that AEB is standard on BMW because legislation forced them. SMH.
That M badge is a disgrace on this Prius.
Agreed, but please don't insult the Prius
Agreed, and a Prius shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as an M, unless you simultaneously fart for the Prius
Marinus Antonius it’s hardly a Prius with 288bhp
£40000?! The average salary in the U.K. is £27000!
Well, in Spain it costs even more. It starts in 58000€ 😅😢😭
@@DavidGarcia-zv2xr same in Ireland €56000
BMWs were never cheap. Why the fake shock?
MasterOzgun after Brexit, everything will be better! ;)
There are alot of above average people out there.
Bmw are so far behind the competition. Where’s the fully electric 3 series. My last two cars have been bmw. Not the next one.
Agreed. Sooooo far behind Tesla
I expect they are not fully convinced about electric cars as the answer, like the rest of us
tubetop123 if anything Tesla’s are sooooo behind BMW, great there electric, the quality and overall interior is poor and the exterior is boring, the Tesla doesn’t do a single thing better than the BMW
@@viperlook4118 that sure explains why the Model 3 sales in 2019 has beaten all models of BMW combined in USA.
tubetop123 yeah In the USA 😂 how about any other country.....
Sorry but this is a poor quality electric car BMW could of at least made a fast charging mode.
No need for fast charging on a PHEV.
I think these late comers of these environmentally vehicle manufacturers are trying to over engineering their vehicles now in trying to make up for the lost time. Just do it like the Lexus, why would you want to plug it in to charge 30 miles or so. Either just get a full electric or a pure hybrid. That's my two cents worth😂
hybrid has no place in today's world. bmw need to take note and take the 3 series back to the factory for full ev capability.
disagree. With hybrid I can commute as EV and be able to have a single vehicle that covers my needs. No EV on sale today does that (outside of Tesla Model S or X which are outside my price range).
@@matthewrichardson666 have you considered the base model tesla model 3? its $67k aud where i am, not sure where you reside, but i'll drum up some figures for usa and uk. 38k gbp, 35k usd. when you consider its the same price as a toyota avalon in the usa, and a vw arteon in the uk, and both are not exactly luxury cars, i would consider them middle of the road, ev's are certainly within reach of most folks. 220 miles / 354km range, 0 - 60 mph (100 kph) in 5 secs.
Ordered one after your video . Ps I hope you’re single 😂
lol, a Model 3 destroys this
Don’t be so scripted. Just speak naturally
Realy....I'd suggest Vicky Parrot is one of the most natural presenters on the tube.
Paulthorpe agreed!
so why would you buy one of these when the Model 3 exists for the same price? Plug in hybrids are dead in the water, Media please stop promoting them. They only still exist because the manufacturers didn't get it together soon enough and work out a good battery supply. BMW should be castigated for still doing this, not praised.
I wish Tesla fanboys would look at the cars objectively rather than being "omg based elon" all the time.
@@fredfredburger5150 I am looking at the car objectively, and its probably a better car to drive, with nicer interior (the BMW) but if I was paying for it, I would not want to buy a new ICE car now.
All I am trying to say is I am annoyed how sycophantic the media is to BMW, MB, VW, etc. They should be saying "this is a half arsed attempt and we know it - you need to do better"
@@reubenmitchell5269 You're not looking objectively. Tesla has some way to go both in terms of car build quality and production/infrastructure before they become a genuinely viable option. I would agree the trend is moving toward electric cars but we're not there yet.
@@fredfredburger5150 Agreed, and I am not necessarily advocating for people to buy a Tesla ( I cannot afford one myself) but any BEV. I'm trying to say, the media should not be praising the car manufacturers for making a lame attempt to reduce CO2 emissions and mostly only because they are forced to. Look at the waiting lists for the Hyundai and Kia BEVs in the UK, people want to buy them but Hyundai and Kia dont want to sell them, because they cant get the batteries.
Over priced with a century old technology.
Yes well said
Er electric cars were around before ICE, even older tech and it still has the 100 year plus problem of range anxiety
@@davidviner4932 No toxic fossil burning has been disingenuous suppressing protecting there global market from 1860 when they own every government on earth 🌎 sad as we all face anthropogenic extinction☠⛽☠. I been interested in electric cars and never had range axietety as I know exactly how far it goes. But we need to build green infrastructure ban sale of toxic fossil lable whith a government health warning ⚠️ fossil number 1 killer on Earth and responsible for most war. Toxic makes lots of cash 💸 money buys P.R and lot of F.UD . future must go green renewable energy made at home and linked to smart grids electric cars used as energy bioderctional storage. Burning toxic going to lead us all to more anthropogenic extinction emergency 🤡☠⛽☠ have a think why all governments in debt 🤔 to toxic a big con.
sux. It's a gas car.
Too bad it’s so ugly..
I think Bmw reached a dead end on their design... and Zooming the front grill was a terrible mistake and it's not innovative at all.
Not interested in this. It's a fossil. End of.
@Lukas Sadly I've noticed the people on this topic don't appear to live in the real world, I easily drive 250 miles in a day and drive a BMW diesel, for me the hybrid option could be better but I will have to evaluate them. Electric simply isn't an option as I would need to buy a petrol generator and mount it in the boot to charge the battery to keep the range, hardly practical is it
Tesla all the way
Depends on you as a driver.
Tesla is unique but the built quality. Falling apart at the showroom bits fiddly and I have seen these new on road and the headlamps are already mist/foggy inside. One had a line from the rear lights gone. BMW has good built quality I think of Tesla 3 were to match a BMW for quality the price would be insane.
What a stupid car
This is not an EV , sadly will unsubsubscribe from here....