BMW 330e review | In depth look around AND actual range info!
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In this video I'll be checking out one of the newest additions to the 3 Series - the plug-in hybrid 330e.
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00:00 Intro
00:30 Charging & battery
00:55 Exterior
01:37 Boot
02:45 Rear interior
04:11 Front interior, screen & features
07:40 Road test
09:35 Xtra Boost
10:30 Charging battery using engine
11:50 Handling
13:18 eDrive performance
14:00 Battery use on motorway
17:00 Summary - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
I really like this, here in America, my work is about 5 miles from my house, I could literally do my whole commute and go weeks with out re-fueling
I just got one (not the M edition). I did a 264 km round trip for a meeting. I got just over 51 km on electric, then charged it while on the motorway, it was fully charged in about 35 minutes and I switched back to electric. Did not get a chance to charge while parked so just kept going with the partial battery and then charged on the go again on my way back. I managed 96 km in total on electric out of the 264 km round trip. I'm impressed, and very much enjoying the car.
What was your fuel consumption like ?
@@thetad1242 I'm in the United States I've had it for almost 5 months now and I'm averaging around 41 MPG or 17.4 km/l
@@ShieRozow-Composer thank you
@@ShieRozow-Composer Jesus that’s a lot. Is it always in sport mode?
It's a false economy and in the mean time, the battery loses efficiency...
Prob one of the most practical and best reviews of the 330e. Good job and a big thanks 🙏
What a stunning review, Thank you!
HYBRID? Does it make any sense lugging around a battery and electric motor when you have a perfectly good petrol engine?
HYBRID! Does it make any sense lugging around a petrol engine, and fuel when you have a perfectly good electric motor and battery?
No it does not, except for one tiny detail: IT BLOODY WELL WORKS!
I am approaching the end of a love affair with my 2018 330e, as the five year warranty ends soon. I have torn out my little remaining hair trying to find a replacement: Audi have some nice alternatives, but they are all outside my budget. After weeks of agonising, there is only one car (that I can afford), and that is the car you reviewed here. The improvements from the F30 to the G20 are all desirable, especially the larger battery. (If I win the Lottery, it will be the 330e Touring (wagon), available this year for the first time.)
It is impossible to arrive at a conclusion for plug-in hybrids, because they may be perfect for one owner's scenario, but totally pointless for another. (i.e. someone with nowhere to plug it in!)
Even though our car has only a 25km electric range, we are now retired and mainly do short trips... 85% of our motoring is electric. We moved our energy plan to one offering three hours free electricity per day. The car automatically begins charging at the start of that period, so the majority of our motoring has no cost for fuel.
Compare our situation to someone who does big daily mileage (Company Rep, for instance): yes, they will get their cheap 40km at the start of the day... after that, they will reap the benefits of regenerative charge into the battery from coasting and braking, but overall they are never going to see the sort of savings that I do.
Since 1980, I have always had a 3 series BMW. The most powerful was a 335d Touring; an effortless tourer, but that big diesel lump up front became noticeable whenever a nice twisty road appeared. The 330e does not have quite the same endless torque, but it is better balanced, and effortlessly puts in quicker times over a mountainous road we travel... the electric drive instantly kicks in out of hairpins, and fills in any gap in accelleration intil the turbo spools up.
This has been a car for all moods: Dial up Eco Pro / Comfort mode and enjoy the cruise... OR
Hit Sport Mode Plus, traction control off, make music with the paddles and the eight-speed trans and knock yerself out with the adrenaline rush! AND YOU'VE STILL GOT YOUR PANTS ON! 🥴
Excellent review. Thank you for not waving your hands around like you were looking for a role in My Left Foot.
I'm not in Rep of Ireland but I do watch some other Irish channels and got to say I enjoy yours the most Mark. Good style and lots of useful info. Very balanced reviews.
Thank you for always coming back to watch :)
My cousin bought one and I decided to find a random review of it. Glad I came across this one! Greetings from Norway. 👍
Enjoyed this. Thanks for posting.
Watched a lot of 330e reviews but your vid was more entertaining and informative. My 330e m pro edition in dravit grey is arriving in a few weeks, can’t wait to get going & have a play
Problerly the best rewiew of this car on the tube 🤩🤩🤩
Great review. Thank you.
Had mine for over 18 months now and loving it. With increased electric cost though then, particularly in the winter, I'm starting to charge it less. Main issue is that in winter, if you put the heater on, the electric range absolutely plummets - personally, driving sensibly in the winter and only putting heater on to clear the windows, I'd expect a range of 20-22 miles and in the summer that was 28-30 miles both of which beats petrol prices even now.
However my wife, who refuses to drive and be cold, managed to turn my 6 miles with 75% left into 12 miles with about 10% range left because she insisted on having the heater running full blast! On that basis I wouldn't even bother plugging it in now if she's taking it for a spin!
What I haven't quite worked out yet is whether the battery control function is worth using compared to just running on petrol. When electric was cheap it wasn't even something I thought of because I was only going to the petrol station three times a year but now, it is the "unknown" that I want to find the answer to. Is anyone regularly using battery control? Is it worth it?
Also surely it's healthy for the car to do a reasonable amount of miles using the petrol engine isn't it?
Overall though it's the best car I'd had the pleasure to own and I'm not intending to switch!
Hi thanks for that . Always had 3 series and 2 years ago I bought the current shape 5 series a 520d . I hate it , it’s too big and unwieldy and as soon as possible will go back to a 3 series. If I can I’d get a 330i but as they are are here I’d get the 330e no problem. How long does it take to charge at home
Just the type of review I needed. How much fuel used (not cost), acceleration, comfort. You covered everything someone thinking about this needs to know. Cheers from Southern California.
Glad it was helpful!
Great video! Mine arrives on Tuesday in mineral grey with 19” alloys and comfort pack. Can’t wait! 👍🏼
May be too late, but how did you like the car? i'm looking at getting one myself
@@eastonator1262 love it! Will probably get another/new one next year 👍🏼
@@darrengofton7564 thanks, im looking forward to getting one
Fantastic review of a fantastic car
Well done nobby great review
Thanks
brilliant review
thanks a lot
Great vid, well described review 👏🏼
Thanks for checking it out
Finally, car reviews without the mindless whooping and carry-on. Great stuff!
Thanks Charles
A musical genius AND he reviews cars! Thanks Billy Corgan!
ha! Thanks for watching
A review of a 3 30.....at 3.30....great work as usual thanks 👍
Cheers
I love this video so much ❤
Steering wheel: the whole point of the big knobbly bits is to NOT drive at 10 to 2 because with airbags 9-15 is better
Getting mine on Wednesday! So stoked!!!
Any issues? Do you like it?
two things to point out in this great video. you can drive in electric only mode up to 80pmh (approx 140 kmh) in the new model and to reduce the tyre noise and increase comfort is to simply DO NOT GO FOR THE PRO PACK. this is 19 to inch tyres, blue break calipers and a small spoiler as well as blacked out trim around the grill
Handy tip!
But the 19's look cool. I hope that I can find one set up like that when I'm ready to buy. I admit that I have 18's on my 428i right now, and it is more comfortable than the 20's in my garage, but the 20's look GOOD.
great comments well done i have the same car and its the best i ever had !!!!
Love your sense of humour 😅. Great review
Cheers
Hi there, I've had mine since Sept 2020, same colour & spec. I've used two tanks of petrol in that time (1,600 miles/2,574km) as I haven't done much company car driving in the last year! Just a couple of things - you can order luggage nets for the backs of the front seats (I know, should come as standard - come on BMW!) and you get wireless phone charging with the Tech Pack, which also gives you a Harmon Kardon stereo, heads up display and keyless entry.
Reverse assist and park assist are amazing and my 200 mile (320km) drive today gave me 54mpg at normal-high motorway speeds on just the overnight charge + petrol (eco pro mode).
Great review and enjoyed watching (love my car too!)
Great to have feedback from an owner, thank you. Two tanks is amazing!! Tech pack would be great if it came as standard on M performance.
Hi, can you tel what is the real difference em performance on the freeway after drain all the battery? Do you get only 184hp performance isn’t true?
@@ricardopereira597 I don't know if you've had your question answered Richardo but I've got the older model 330e, 2017 version (absolutely loving it!) and you don't need to worry. The battery never fully drains (it always keeps some back) and so while you'll be cruising at 184hp so if you put your foot down to overtake the battery still kicks in giving you full power - this is EVEN when it says you have zero range left in it. That's what I've read and exactly what I've experienced in mine so no need to worry on that account. I had a BMW 320d tourer with 200hp before - drove really, really well but despite the extra weight of the batteries in the 330e (which you barely notice to be honest) I would never go back to it. I just love the extra oomph and the slick handling of this 330e - REALLY love it.
I’ve got the 2023 edition 330e Msport tourer coming. Brooklyn grey and the 19” gloss back alloys. Can’t bloody wait.
great review I'm looking forward to you doing a review on the audi a3 plug in
hopefully will get a look at it
Have ordered that very color. Can’t wait for it to be produced! Am REALLY looking forward to having it in the garage.
did u get it?
Did you get it? How is it?
@@hojnikb Indeed we did. The battery weight led to wearing out the OEM tires in 20k miles. We have a Level 2 charger in the garage, so charge it very regularly. About 50% of our driving has been electric, even considering several long highway trips. Having the electric range for around town is great. Would like to find an X3 PHEV to add to the garage.
@@abhisheknauduri7013 See the comment I just wrote.
Do all the rear seats fold down - I suppose so but could you please confirm? Thank You!
I went with a dark gray and black details on the msport package.
Looks insane! So happy, picking it up in 1 week
Good luck with it
On the phone charging, it was actually part of a package, you could get it. But due to the lack of some pieces (thanks to pandemic) they don't have it available. I actually ordered mine with it and they called me asking if I agreed to remove it, get a cut in the price, so they could continue with scheduled production, which I agreed. The other item they didn't have was that bigger key with a screen, which I don't care and didn't even knew was part of my order :-)
I hope they gave you a nice discount, at least you can use cables I suppose.
@@NobbyOnCars 603.41 EUR to be exact. For a key I didn't know I had and having to charge my phone now with a cable instead of induction?! I'm good with that.
@@dremul : 603.41 EUR should buy you an aftermarket charging pad, with enough change to keep you in ice-creams for a long time! 😉
I see a nice one of these at a dealer in Dublin. Same colour, 330e similar spec. My trade in is a 2018 e220d amg line w213 with only 85k kms on it. Am I crazy to do this? I rarely leave the town I’m based in so figured I’d use battery. Just wondering what real world fuel mpg/range is like in Ireland.
Battery Control mode is not so much for charging the battery as it is for keeping the battery from discharging. It's true you can recharge the battery, but that's pretty inefficient. However, it is useful for when you want to force the car to use the petrol engine in order to save the battery for later. In this car, there is no way to force the car to use the ICE without going into some form of sport mode (shifting to M/S or using Sport Mode), but those modes are not very comfortable when driving in the city because the car becomes very aggressive. So, what's the solution then? Yes, to activate Battery Control, select the level of battery you need, and ensure the car will have enough electric energy for when you need it.
Great way of putting it for people, thanks for posting.
Does battery control mode only work in hybrid setting? It cancels out in sport? Got mine few days ago, still getting to grips..
@@bryanarmstrong8768 Yes, but when in Sport Mode you don't need the Battery Control mode, because the car automatically maintains and charges the battery, though it doesn't charge it so aggressively as in battery control mode, only opportunistically.
@@eddie8742 cheers, I’m noticing that now when in sport mode.
Hello, I am getting a deal of 41k for a 330e 02/2022 registered car luxury line .. actual price was 56k.. do you think it’s a good deal and what about the resale value of hybrids ? Please provide some inputs … thanks
Great review Nobby as ever. I must admit I did laugh when you showed us the scrolly indicators because generally speaking BMW drivers don't know what they are! 😂 That being said as a glimpse into the future it is interesting tho' at 50 plus grand and you don't get wireless charging for your phone that is a bit disappointing.
Would’ve been a nice touch to have it but at least it’s a mix of sockets
@@NobbyOnCars you'd think tho' given the price that you'd get the wireless charging as there are cars costing far less that have thus feature but that's the joy of buying premium German you're paying for the badge really.
Strange, I have a 330e and it does have wireless charging.
@@clivebrooks8207 did you pay extra for it?
@@NobbyOnCars No, it is standard on M Series model cars.
What is a full hybrid range please ?
Have a G21 M Sport 320d Xdrive Touring and it’s all the car you’ll ever need. Welded to the road!!
Love the look of them
Is this ULEZ compliant?
Okay I own a 330e M sport just like the one your driving.
I can only charge at home and travel 110 - 170 miles per day for my work.
It averages 47mpg over 5000 miles done.
The most I’ve ever seen on electric is 32 miles on a very warm day.
Cold weather kills the battery 🔋 to around 22 miles range (hybrid Standard)
Never put in Eco Pro unless you can charge the other end of the journey!
Also it will only charge at 6 miles per hour so totally pointless in putting on a public charger it still take 1/2 a day to charge!!!!
Overall the car is great but is a work car not so good as the £42 per month home charging is not refundable on expenses!
So all the BIK you save compared to a Self Charging vehicle is lost!!
And you have all the hassle of plugging it in.
Thanks for a good overall review.
BTW self charge function drops MPG to 25-27 MPG and takes around 1 hour of driving to charge it.
You need to get accounts to cough up!! Great to hear feedback from an owner thank you for taking the time.
@@NobbyOnCars they pay avg MPG so probably ok.
dont want to be rude but who would order a phev to drive over 150 miles per day? i know bik is a saving but come on…i ordered one because i drive 11 miles to work each way and can charge it for free…
Great review. I bought one last February and have about 9000 klms up on it. More than half by electric. It's a great car for my needs like. I can plug it in out in the drive and charged every morning. Tbh the only reason it has any miles with the petrol engine is me putting it into extra boost and enjoying the car that way. I dont think my wife ever kicks in the petrol engine up and down to school shops whatever. If u can charge it at home its perfect. If you cqnt then no point getting one. 👍
Sounds like you love it, nice one.
@@NobbyOnCars I came out of a 7.5 golf R and got to say I'm looking at the mark 8 with a bit of envy 😀 Dont think herself be pleased but I'm half thinking of going back 😀
@@Frank-1978 If you have the B48A20B engine, you can tune that sucker to over 400bhp. I'll go pass by the 8 r WITH ease.
What a beautiful car. I'm looking into Hybrid vehicles right now and thinking about getting this. Are hybrids better or full EV or Gas for BMW?
It really depends on your needs. Since this car review was filmed, they obviously have the i4. The 330i is the slightly more fun car to drive but this will be cheaper to run. Some prefer hybrid as they’re not stuck with just electric power and the need to rely on charging.
Will this bmw make a good part time uber and full time family car?
This car is not for everyone, it’s perfect for people who do short distances every day, take kids to school, go to work all in a short range, electric can be used without even needing the petrol engine, charge at home overnight and go again.
Great review again, 49k is a very good price for what you get. Would be interesting to see in the long term how the extra 250 kg adds to tyre and suspension wear compared to a 320i or 330i, and will the weight grate on you after a long time especially with the ride and handling... and the car height above the wheel arches is higher than a normal 3 series.. But for a company car it makes a lot of sense.
I thought it sat a little high alright.
Great review. I'm getting really serious about leasing one. Question - I'm in the US so please excuse my use of mi vs. km. I don't have much opportunity to charge this via elec. I drive about 80 miles a day. Could I count on the battery getting sufficiently charged during that commute. For example - if I'm using the petro engine 3/4 of the time - can I count on at least part of the commute to be covered by the elec engine?
Absolutely yes but do you mean charging it using the petrol engine too? You could charge this in work using the granny cable and you’d be covered to full again I’d imagine.
@@NobbyOnCars The other way around. I DON'T have many opportunities to plug it in. Not that many charging stations specifically where I live and work. So I'm hoping I could get sufficient charge while driving it "petro"
Second question..... does anyone have the dimensions of the trunk space? I can't find a car in a local showroom to get a live look at one.
I got my 330e M-Sport, brand new, in January. Absolutely love it, it's definitely a head turner!
Same colour?
Nope, i got mines in Mineral Grey. it really does look stunning!
@@alexmacarthur9159 mine comes Tuesday in the same colour 🙌🏼
@@darrengofton7564 Do you like it? Would you recommend it over diesel?
definitely
Nice review Nobby. One question for you or any owner......approx how much in £££££ and pennies to do a full charge at your front door. I do realise it can be done for free in some places. I`m looking to buy one now.
Just multiple the battery size by whatever you’re paying for a kWh of electricity and that’ll be fairly accurate
@@NobbyOnCars Thanks. Much appreciated.
Are kms measure differently from wherever you are? Or did the EPA rating underestimated the EV range at 37km?
It's underestimated, but the range depends on a lot of factors, being outside temperature, speed and driving style some of the most important. You can get over 50 Kms in this one at city speeds during the summer.
No adaptive cruise control?!! are they kidding? great review though :)
10:04 I see you were in Castleknock there.
I get around.
I've owned an all electric car for over 2 years which has superb performance and range but I'm tempted to get the 330e or similar next. Can the 330e automatically manage which power to use based on MPH? e.g. can it run on electric only up to a certain speed and then the ICE kick in at a higher speed? Great review btw
It can do both yes. Thanks for watching!
@@NobbyOnCars thank you!
If you floored it while in Electric Mode, does the ICE kick in, or do you stay in pure electric mode?
Petrol kicks in
Great car but the 330e touring is the one the get with the smaller boot on this versus the petrol and diesel 3’s
Also consider waiting for the upcoming i4
Can you drive it in a way that the electric motor works to help the petrol engine for driving long distances. I drive regularly 350km trips is it going to have close to a diesel car fuel economy
If you drive it in hybrid mode yes but not 350kms worth
Mine condumes 2.4l/100km in summer, 3l in winter
You're missing the point of self charging. If you are doing a long journey at steady motorway speeds, you wouldn't be using the electric motor and your engine produces a lot of excess electricity during that time. You can therefore use that to charge you batteries for use when you come off the motorway. It is very useful for those doing a lot of motorway miles.
thanks Nick - that is pretty much my situation
Noob question: Once the electric range runs out, does it work like a hybrid and still give you good mpg or does it run only on the petrol engine?
2.0 petrol engine
Like a hybrid
Strange. I just bought one (67plate) and it’s so different from your review. Couple of examples I have storage on back of seats , I have 37 miles on electric, after 60mph engine kicks in and so much more. Maybe I’m looking at a different 330e ?
Storage could be part of a pack. 37 miles / 50 kms ain’t that far apart
i know 2019 onwards is a newer version and os7 is being rolled out now. i did a test drive last week and on electricity alone you can do up to 80 mph. contact your local dealer?
I want to get one but can someone help with battery replacements is it as dear as I hear
The one I’m looking at is a 2016 analog dash which I wish I could put the electronic one in
Great review!! What would the fuel economy be at 120kmh using the petrol engine?
I think you'd still manage 7L/100kms
Nobby On Cars that could be handy to get some charge back into the battery when on the motorway so you can run in electric mode when coming back into a town
@@MrThehowlinator This car does exactly that but not from driving in the motorway, but rather from breaking, coasting, downhill driving, etc.
I do less than 7l/100km at 130km/h with the touring xDrive version.
Do you need to charge it or can you ignore it and just use the petrol ? Looking on a market and most of them are 330e i don't really want an electric but if i could not charge it and just use petrol then why not but honestly i don't know if that's a possibility just to use petrol and not use electric at all
You can just do that but you’re carrying around the extra weight for nothing. You get more power and use less petrol by charging it so you’d be better off in a 330i
There is one thing I can not understand, so I was considering buying one of these but the electricity does not make sense. For example it should do on average 30 miles to a full charge which is approx 12 KW/H (the size of the battery) which works out at 433 w/h per miles , todays electricity price is 0.49p per KW/h , so that is 0.49 x 0.433 = 21p per mile. That is more expensive than petrol ! and then you have the added weight and extra work the engine will have to do reducing the miles per gallon even further for when the battery is depleated. Can anyone explain to me why this makes sense To charge the bettery will cost £5.88 to do 30 miles !
It only makes sense if you charge it at home.
Also, you don’t actually have to charge it.
You can turn battery control on & it’ll charge up whilst you drive in petrol.
But imo, it’s a failed system.
The petrol tank is smaller so you get less range, & when the Electric runs out the mpg on the ICE alone is less than on the standard petrol car.
Also, you’d be very lucky to even get 30 miles of range.
I’m currently only getting about 17
@@KINGKING10109 I am finding exact same thing my mpg since 20mph was introduced in Wales has dropped to 24 and there isn't enough speed for regen. Around 17 is millage I'm getting from battery. The most annoying thing for me tho is the lack of flexibility in hybrid mode. It sets the cut over at 60 miles per hour so it drains battery fast then goes onto petrol. I would rather they work together for max efficiency not one or other. I expected it to help the petrol achieve the desired cruising speed then shut off the electric but at 60 this is way to high. The other issue I have is it slams into potholes there is no give in chassis at all any imperfections in the Road go straight through the whole car. However it has an amazing entertainment system good looks and she does cruise well on motorways. I think having a choice again I'd buy a pure petrol.
@@KINGKING10109 mine is a 20 plate in orange with black trim and grill :)
M sport …which is better Nobby , 330i or 330e for ‘ normal driving ‘ not a short commute
The petrol head in me would say 330i
Isn't there a sunroof option for 330e models?
I’m fairly sure there is
@@NobbyOnCars I've seen it too but I'm not sure which model variant
I wonder how much mpg would improve if those useless batteries are taken out
in Dublin it will always tell you that it is raining today
Most days 😊
I don't think the idea of the battery control is to use the petrol engine to charge the battery, more so you can set a percentage of battery aside. If you don't have any charging at your destination, you can set the battery control to 50% so the car splits battery use between the out and return trips.
i agree completely, and you are supposed to use sat nav all the time due to its live traffic info it will tell you that traffic is ahead, will automatically switch to electric mode and save a chunk of petrol!
Both actually. The car will charge it self when it runs low on battery regardless if you use battery control. It's using electric as boast even in comfort mode when it's running on the engine and it's not good for the battery do stay empty so the car will manage it on it self.
I bet BMW wouldn't be happy if you reported the MPG on a longer, say 120 mile round trip so long after the battery ran out. I hear 30mpg is optimistic.
I think it's just reasonable to understand that it will act more like a non hybrid 330i. Nothing to hide behind really.
@@NobbyOnCars except the weight penalty. These cars are designed for company car drivers to avoid benefit in kind tax, I certainly have no problem with that as I am guilty as charged too!!! The problem is some companies reimburse their drivers using HMRC AFR (approved fuel rates) and here is the nub, 2.0L PHEV's like this pay only 12p a mile means unless this car does at least 45mpg on petrol alone on longer trips the driver will be out of pocket!
That is what I am getting at, its a crucial number to know (mpg on petrol alone) and I bet BMW would prefer some potential buyers not to know. We have several staff who have got stuck in long lease contracts with these BMW PHEVS and now subsidise their own jobs daily, because the official fuel consumptions figures are so attractive but there is no data on the truth after the battery is used.
That's actually not the case, it's more like 40-50mpg, even with a discharged battery. Take a look at this: g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1745449
It should have radar cruise control and blind spot for the price you pay for a 330e. I’d have the 330e tourer but paying extra for safety equipment just pisses me off! Bmw should be fitting these as standard! And the same for every other manufacturer too. Safety should be standard on every new car, not an extra!!!
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Great review Nobby. I always enjoy your car reviews. How would you compare the acceleration of the 330e vs 330i? I'm considering stepping down from my current 530i as its a bit big for my needs but finding it difficult to decide between the 330i and 330e.
If you want to pay the extra €10k or whatever for the 330i, it’ll be a superior car to drive but in the mundane real world side of traffic, will you actually get to use that? 10k and still decent to drive....
@@NobbyOnCars 330i it is so! You only live once. :-)
Does anyone know if the climate control has a sync button? I had the older 3 series that didn’t have one, currently have a 5 series with one and awaiting arrival of a 330e and really hoping it has sync as found it so frustrating manually selecting matching temp left and right zones 🤯
Yes, you can sync the AC from the driver side to the passenger and the rear seats. You select that in the iDrive menu. You can also deactivate the controls for the AC in the back, so kids don't play with them, for example.
@@eddie8742 great thanks very much for that. When it arrives I’ll go find that. Cheers. 👍🏼
49k new and now it’s closer to 70. Even a used 2019 one is going for 30k
Great video, but I think a real interesting question wasn’t.
The car has 184hp combustion engine.
And more the. 250hp combined.
If you go on freeway and drain the 50km battery with speed let’s say 160kmh
After that the car only runs on 184hp in terms of performance isn’t that true?
Yes that’s correct
Just put the cable under the false floor in the boot ffs!
500 pounds heavier? Seems like a crappy compromise.
For Ireland with our stupid tax rules it’s a performance bargain 300 horsepower for 50,000 euro, no brainier
Do you recommend 330e or Tesla model 3?
I think I'd go full on and get the 3 just for the cool factor and due to this being a hybrid, this interior is far nicer though.
cant compare them really as one is fully electric and the other is a hybrid. think of daily commute you are normally doing before deciding
Emissions free = I've outsourced the pollution
Mark, the bmw type 2 cable is auto coiling. So if you remove it fully it will coil up into a very small amount of space. It looks like the press car, so I’d say the cable is just tangled to bits! It will take up less space in the glovebox then, or sorry, I mean boot 🤣
There was possibly one or max two others using this car as it is so new so that sounds interesting about the coiling - should’ve worked as you describe 🤔
My commute is only 7 miles either way, so I've been looking at one of these 2nd hand, if the car can do @25 miles fully electric it will be more than enough for me to never visit a petrol station!
I have driven the older version and even that would just about do it, so as a PHEV it is perfect for MY situation.
just have to find a bargain now!
Good luck with the search!
@@NobbyOnCars bizarrely, it looks like I may have found one already. Fingers crossed
@@MaddRIP1 did you get one?
@@28Miriamm yes I did, 2 year old G20 with 12k on the clock. I have used about 11 gallons of fuel since December 20, and have done in excess of 1200 miles, most weeks I just use electric. I also changed my electricity tariff so that it’s 5p/kWh between midnight and 5am.
he never got back to that
There is no need for 19" wheels
No but aesthetically people like them
@@NobbyOnCars I don't, I have to change them. Preferably I like a 55 profile.
ffs no one who owns an electric vehicle and certainly not a hybrid carries the cables with them. in every review of this car i see ppl complain about the cables taking up space in the boot but ffs NO ONE CARRIES THE CABLES WITH THEM. you either charge at home or at a charging station. most ppl have wall mounted chargers at home and if you don't then you use the cables, but there would be no point in taking them with you because charging stations have cables mounted. cmon, like just think about it, why the fuck would one need to carry the cables with them? especially in a hybrid where you have the petrol engine to fall back on as well.
And on street chargers have cables do they?
Nobby On Cars 1st off, 99% of people in the world don’t use them so it’s meaningless to complain about the charging cables taking up space if it only goes for 1% of potential buyers. I have never even heard about on street chargers, but as for what I found on Google, they’re only found in the UK and as far as i know they are mostly located in London and some other city centers. 2nd, if you need all the space in the trunk it’s most likely for a roadtrip and you could just leave the charging cables at home, the majority of chargers are chargers with mounted cables anyways so if you want to charge along your road trip you can certainly find one (not that you need it because the regeneration is enough to reduce the petrol usage by quite a lot).
Admittedly as I said earlier, I have never heard about on street chargers, but my point still stands, the vast majority of ppl with hybrids or EVs in the world don’t carry the cables with them so it doesn’t make sense to complain about them taking up space. And if you happen to be someone that for some reason can ONLY charge at one of these chargers and have no possible way of charging at a mounted charger, I’m sure you can just use the petrol engine and regeneration that one time where you need the entire trunk and the entire back row of seats and have no where else to store the charging cables. I mean isn’t that the entire point of having a hybrid? The flexibility of it, the ability to have an electric car for small trips to and from work and then a petrol car for road trips that’s also able to use less petrol than pure petrol cars.
It doesn’t seem like the charging cables taking up space would present a problem in any possible scenario.
"99% of people in the world don't use them".. it's too early on a Monday for this - all the best!
Nobby On Cars i mean, i’m from Norway and we have more Electric and hybrid vehicles than the UK and we don’t have those types of chargers. Every single review i’ve seen on hybrids and EVs never use an on Street charger, they always use the ones with mounted cables and it doesn’t seem hard to find them. Anyways why wouldn’t you address the other points that clearly shows that in no scenario is it a problem, even if you have to use an on street charger?
@@AbdullaFilmASyou're in Finland yet you think you know Ireland better than him. Plank.
A computer on wheels, very nice
I wouldn’t want a car without a spare wheel .
probably can't afford the Michelin pilot sport 4S zero pressure run flat either...🥺🥺🥺🔪🔪👩🍳
The elephant in the room is running costs once the warranty runs out... Some VW hybrids have suffered catastrophic failures to the hybrid system meaning €€€€€ bills
"Hey BMW" - does it concern you that your car is always listening to you? I am not paranoid - but this does concern me a little, perhaps just have to get used to it.
"Hey BMW, should I buy a Mercedes?"
Well you have to activate it but sure who isn’t watching and listening these days 🥴
Ask it what is the meaning of life. It will tell you. No bs 😀
Criminal that it does not have blind spot monitoring or adaptive cruise control as an option! Thats a big miss, even the Mazda CX-5 has it
It’s an option, it’s just not standard
@@NobbyOnCars Tks, I specced out one and didn’t notice it in the options (US) car. Will order one in January with the M package. Love the idea of this car!
@@TheRtc67 sorry didn’t know you were US based, perhaps not then but I’d imagine there must be some option for it
@@NobbyOnCars agreed! Great review either way!
You have no idea what you are talking about. 120km in electric mode. Not a chance. 20 miles and that's it. (10:16secs in)
It can do 120 kilometres per hour easily in electric mode is the point. Not distance travelled.
@@NobbyOnCars 👌 you missed the per hour bit out. Thanks for the clarification. 👍👍
@@paulpatrick2208 I did yeah for that split second but it’s well covered earlier in the video.
I do not want BMW , Mercedes , Amazon or Google listening to everything I say !
You don’t have to. Similar to Alexa and Siri, you have to turn it on. It can be off.
Having test driven this at the weekend thoroughly disappointed. That extra weight really does become apparent when accelerating and braking hard. The ultimate driving machine it is no longer I’m afraid.
Have you tried the 330i?
did you have regenerative breaking on to charge the battery up? i had to switch it off as it wasn’t pleasant at all… after that it was soooo much better
well that is interesting actually, because if you look at the 330d or 340i ( the models with bigger 6 pot engine and x drive) they get close to the 330e weight. for that reason I went for 330i as it is 260kg lighter than e, but I dont think I have seen a single reviever mentioning the extra weight of 330d or 340I/D vs the 4 cylinder versions RWDs. Every single one of them is talking about the extra weight of 330e but it is only 70kg heavier than M340I so if you like your car nimble probably the 330i is the one to go for. I know that 340i is a killerr in straight line but it is a heavier car too at almost 1700Kg
@@tureq85 You can turn off regen braking, or regen charging? I thought there will always be a bit of regen charging when the battery is depleted.
@@cpl8168 if you’re slowing down it will automatically regen, its very mild & barely noticeable. but if you plan to charge your battery through petrol it feels like having a handbrake on
The car for the ignorant grandpa’s without email!😂
No room for tablets for grandma?
With a simple tune will produce 420 bhp
Crazy how cheap these are now!
Yh i been looking ive seen some for 15k crazy cheap i wonder why there are so many for sale for so cheap
@@marcust123 I think a lot of them are company cars which have finished their 3/4 deal, ususally having one owner is the giveaway, definitely got me interested in one as I love performance cars but I’m also conscious about mpg on commuting!
@@HairyBeaver im the exact same mate have been eyeing these up for a while as it seems you get the best of both worlds and the price is pretty good, car giant uk seem to have a good amount of them in the 60-80k mileage range all for about 15-17k i expect as you say they are previous company cars one thing got me thinking tho how long will the batterys hold up and what kind of price to replace
@@marcust123 yeah it would be interesting to see, might go view one and see the real range after a few years use, currently got a 2015 Golf R which is great fun and I can get around 32 mpg when driving sensibly but I’d imagine I’d get 2x if not 3x better with one of these