WHAT THE YU-GI-OH! COMMUNITY GOT WRONG IN 2022
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Pour one out for Mathmech. Even in a world where Tear0 didn’t exist, the release of the Bystials is here to choke the life out of most decks that revolve around light and/or dark monsters. Ya know, the 2 attributes Konami prints most monsters as
Print a FIRE/WATER mix archetype, Konami, let us have a Steam Deck 😂
@@halyoalex8942
Hydrogedon
They really do need to print more of every other attribute.
Damn, DM still losing
They have to make money somehow, it definitely isn’t an oversight
I'm vaguely struggling to process how after actual years of Halq not getting hit and every potentially abusable tuner being dragged on to the ban list in it's place, Verte gets hit and Cydra starts lamenting how "It should have been the fusion spells!"
If the fusion spell wasn't broken before verte then the problem isn't the fusion spell.
thats just a cydra players despair.
all the deck had was Verte otk. nowdays all it can do is a single, hard to bring out and easy to disrupt and inconsistent to go into omninegate...
@@Disappointed_Philosoraptor believe it or not I’ve gone to plat 4 before a season ending with a control variant of cyber dragons, when the 15 traps didn’t work people failing to read seiger did
@@pissingspeedrun you know people hit diamond 1 consistently every month with cydra right ? Getting plat 4 is nothing to brag about
@@Disappointed_Philosoraptor Wait... What do you mean Cyber Dragon Infinity is hard to bring out?
That might just be a you problem. Cyber Dragon Infinity is so easy to bring out in a Cyber Dragon deck. All you do is go into it from Nova. It's one of the easiest XYZ boss monsters to summon, and it's so consistent that you can expect a Cyber Dragon player to be able to summon it every game if they can bring out a Cyber Dragon.
Master Duel is so funny because the base software is actually really good and there’s clearly been a lot of work put into it but Konami messed up the actual game part
I just looked at the new ban list....... Literally changes nothing.
It's like having a book that has an extremely killer cover, very elegant fonts and smells like lemon, and then the actual content is just the lorem Ipsum text you find as a placeholder for themes in Word.
@@DrAiPatch it does but they treat it like the tcg and hit what's already going out the door. They have really stepped up the banlist speed tho, we gotten like 1 every month
The "base software" isnt optimized at first-second season. Lagging cant reconnect, coin toss hacks, timeout hacks, etc.
Glad it was fixed
Game is unplayable in mobile devices
I still see people who say that the Bystials aren't that good because they only hit lights and darks. Like even if Tears did not delete all kind of opposition, the Bystials would still b the most batshit insane set of cards released this year.
Wild that a searchable DD crow with dark magician stats that specials on banish during either turn was considered mid at best.
Bystial is quite a scizophrenic material for light and dark attributed deck user
I'm sure Bystials is goign to be the next archetype in which every card is going to be in the banlist, also most cards are Light or Darj that it only hits those 2 attributes isn't an issue.
Oh, do you know the next Bystial is an omni-negate? Like they are not good enough.
It's good until kashtira format where they never sent in any dark or light to GY
I still think Konami is really sleeping on the fact that Master Duel is a digital format that they can use to freely experiment with the banlist. They're slowly easing up on a few cards but they should just take the dive and do like 10 a month to test the waters.
Just unban most things aside from the blatantly overpowered, see what happens, adjust accordingly.
Yea. Honestly. Konami is using master duel as a banlist curator zone. Since they still get like 1000 games played a second. So they can see what cards are fucked and what cards can come off
Different formats though. Master duel is a bo1 where these are gonna be ⅔
@@GhostHyperhex Yeah and that's why most of the banlist could be so different. A lot of the banned and/or limited cards are only good in a best of 3 game where they can side around card that easily beat them, unless it's cards that win games by themselves such as Masterpiece and Mystic Mine.
@@callmeriggy if by that you mean "ban every ftk enabler, floodgate and op + easy to bring out boss monster like access, Zeus and even baron as well as either butchering the consistency or endboard of combo decks then yes.
Its just weird to me that Konami is willing to put out these yugioh games that are legitimately good and then do nothing with them.
Funny how at the end he makes fun of rescue ace and then they became a tiered deck that was pretty good
I appricate the Ed Edd n Eddy reference. Thank you editor.
Why did Earthworm Jim come to mind.. ?
Liked the video specifically For that
Real ones know
Their name is L Amassor Dire
Dire has good taste
The fact they released master dual with a bunch of "kaiju this or lose" decks was not a good was to keep new players engaged
Why they thought Rhongo and VFD in a BO1 format was a good idea is way beyond me
Master duel having a ban list engineered for bo3 instead of bo1 is a nuclear stupid fumble from komoney
@@bonelesswater2665 I'm still pissed Gossip Shadow died for Rhongo's sins
I still remember MBT's "Hitting D.D. Dynamite on the Master Duel banlist means the bots won" take. None of the bots and FTKs the game has seen since have been nearly as effective and ubiquitous since that banlist.
And with Supreme King Starving Venom going to 1, most of the FTK decks are dead. The only bots left are self-TK bots, and if Konami wants to crack down on those, they'll have to make the gem economy more generous.
@@alexbrangan2885 actually pend magician can still FTK, they just need extra steps so they're a lot more vulnerable to interruptions. It's less an ftk deck now than a deck that CAN ftk, but likely won't.
7:52
The only way he could've ended a video about being wrong, naturally
It's always funny watching these older videos because you get shit like 7:48 and it really makes you go 😬
I genuinely think that the only thing that would change if Konami had been more invested in Master Duel is that the existing player base would be a bit happier and thats it. There's simply no way to change the fact that modern yugioh is a bloated mess that very few people who hadnt played it before would be able to get into
it would have had way better player retention. The core game is really good but anything outside of it is just so bad, like no way to get cards from selection pack after they expire, no interesting enough events or other modes/format, no good enough reward system or incentive to keep playing, very bad customization/personalization and socials system, and maybe most importantly people just can't build new decks fast enough before they get bored.
Believe me, there's no way to actually satisfy these people. They even call Labrynth a floodgate deck and think Swordsoul is ban-worthy.
I'm one of those very few people. Thank you very much
Most fair take of master duel
I agree and this is why Rush Duels need to be supported more by the TCG and not just the OCG.
I still love that I had the opposite take of the change of heart reaction. That was the only good take I had this year
That intro is a dire W
7:50 He called it
RACISTS are now tier 0
that intro invoked so much nostalgia holy fuck
normal summon Aleister?
@@REvoLverj98 normal summon Eddie
@@REvoLverj98 add Mechaba
Kashtira Fenrir is powerful enough that the Naturia Ishizu deck can't use Barrier statue of drought as a floodgate without having fenrir pop in and banish it face down.
Good
MBT played a terrible Kashtira list so that means the archetype is overrated duh, that's how it works.
MBT never was a good deckbuilder
Couldn't trick me with the Beetroopers. Sangan has been able to search Maxx C, Ash or a Kaiju this whole time and nobody cared.
Wait, there's a kaiju with less than 1500 attack?
Or are you talking about Santa Claws?
@@tripleaaabattery8480 Santa Claws
@@TheSeventhChild yeah, figured that's what you meant before i fully posted my comment. forgot he could search that but yeah sangan is too slow at this point for people to care anymore.
I like Joshua Schmidt's take on why Fenrir isn't seeing more play, that it clash with Bystials for both in decklost and in gameplay
He had a bad time with a bad build, henceforth now he thinks the cards suck
@@spikeshepard1897 he like Fenrir & he also think it's good but in this format Bystial is better for Tearls hence it's clash with bystial in deckslot. Using bystial also make you having a monster on the field so you can't ss fenrir hence its clash with bystial in gameplay
I still can't believe that we all thought that Phantom Knight's is going to be the next Tier 0 meta threat.
Oh god, I'm gonna feel old as hell when i ask this.
Who DIDNT know where the intro came from? 😅
4:44 Oh God, that aged like milk
Also that Zealantis take, but that's mostly because of the OTK.
That last joke about rescue ace is hilarious especially considering how it’s quite good in ocg rn lol.
Sheesh, yeah Master Duel really has fallen off. I think I stopped opening it for dailies around June and haven't touched it since we played Yugi/Kaiba format. Here's hoping they find some new ways to incentivize playing Master Duel, or whatever you're planning on doing with a possible tournament scene comes to fruition.
PS: Good job dire on the Ed, Edd, and Eddy title card. Petition for the next title card to be Power Rangers-themed with that new Elemental Hero Monotron fanart that I saw on Twitter.
If they had picked up the pace of balancing for bo1 it'd probably would've held together longer, but there's a ton of issues intrinsic to the game. The other really big problems are the gem stranglehold and pack pacing.
Gem prices are absolutely fucked and only become _kinda_ feasible when the limited purchase ones drop (ie. once every 20 blue moons), so nobody in their right mind is incentivised to buy gems, and the pace at which you get free gems is just ok. To top it off, you have a shitload of new archetypes getting added (and some that already existed) that have no secret pack. Selection packs should've either lasted forever or they should've been on the fucking ball with adding new secret packs, but noooo they can't exploit fomo if packs last forever (despite them ignoring that the fomo doesn't encourage people to buy gems, it encourages them to fucking quit).
Basically if you got in early enough, you're at the crest of the wave, and always know what you want to build ahead of time gems aren't a major issue and selection packs give you a big enough window to pick up what you want. If you don't fit that demographic you're fucked; hope you like making alts.
It's a shame cause I can't play paper in my current situation but Konami ignoring the fact its bo1 when making b/l decisions pushes me back to ygopro after week 1 on of every month
"The verte ban hurt Cyber dragons a lot!"
You don't even need to Overload fusion to OTK with cyber dragons. Most of the time you don't even *want* to make Verte rather than make your other, much better extra deck monsters.
bruv u literally do want to make infinity and rampage(with verte) thats your whole combo
@@xecor4450Nah, that combo takes too many resources, loses to any interaction on machine dupe, and isn’t even an impressive board if you’re able to make it in the first place. Cydra has wayyyy better plays.
@@WhoStoleMyNachos like what
I remember reading this at the time and just thinking sarcastically "Yeah, Cyber Dragons just don't have enough support so it's totes unfair to ban Verte."
It's one thing to complain when a staple gets hit that hurts your rogue deck because Konami doesn't release support so you need the extra cards, it's another to complain that decks like Dark Magician or Cydra got hit. Boo hoo you only have 50 archetype support cards, what will you ever do now?
The Ed, Edd n Eddy intro was fire 🤘🏼
hey zealantis is played in marincess and that deck did get top 4 at NA WCQ. Before Zealantis released, that is.
Goddammit, Dire blew it out of the park today
World sea from zealantis is aging very well
The change of heart freakout was totally inexplicable. Unsearchable, 1 of, targeting, temporary
The funny thing is people still side in Mind Control and not Change of Heart, even tho CoH is objectively better. Being a 3 of is that important.
That ending ages poorly
That intro gave me a Patrick Swayze roundhouse kick of nostalgia to the balls
That Ed, Edd and Eddy cutaway was genius
I think the real take away here is that players still think of yugioh in the lens of archtypes and evaluate them based almost on the average of their card pool.
In reality archtypes can be the central focus of a deck but 7/10 times you are better of stripping them down to like their best 12 cards at most and then mixing them with another 12 card engine filling the rest of the space with negates and using both as material fodder for the best extra deck monsters those will sometimes be in archtype kitkalos, ariseheart, purrly or be totally generic.
The funny thing is, you can apply the 'just run S/T hate' argument to *a lot* of decks or engines that have been problematic over the years, but a lot of TCG players have terminal cases of Combo Brain that would make them ignore this. This isn't to say that Mine didn't deserve to be banned (it 100% did), but rather that it's amazing it took a card as obnoxious as Mine to finally make it happen.
Maybe it's my old stubborn MR1 mind but I never could understand why people just won't run any level of backrow hate in the main deck. Opting to resign to lose game 1 because they have no answer to the very glaring weakness of their decks.
@@blackmark2899 because backrow hate isn't good against the majority of decks. You use draw twin twisters against fuckin spright and it does almost less than nothing, and makes you wish you drew dark ruler no more instead
@@dynomite9524 so players don't include counters to things that would slaughter their deck despite them knowing full well that weakness is there and when some one exploits that weakness the card that does it is called unfair. Sounds like people want their cake and want to eat it too.
@@blackmark2899 That's what the sideboard is for. If you lose game 1, that's fine as long as the sideboard helps you win games 2 and 3. If you lose a game against a weird matchup to win the match, that's fine. Backrow hate is not that good to main deck in most formats, but it's amazing to side
Tbf when runick came out mystic mine got like 10 times more annoying. Everything about runick seems to have had perfect synergy with mine, from the blind banishes being able to get rid of outs and get the deck out to being able to protect with hugin under mine.
I didn't think mystic mine was ban worthy until the runick stuff came out but once it did it was for sure.
I just wanted to play pure Kashtira cuz it looked cool. For reference, I play casually most of the time at locals with friends. When the set dropped and Kashtira Fenrir was $50 and Unicorn was $10 I was shocked. Now the price keeps climbing. They aren't even secret rares.
fenrir is a tearlament starter card next format
Absolutely love the ed, edd, n eddy intro 👏👏👏
My roommate bought a box of Darkwing Blast with the vain hope that he'd be able to get at least 1 Kashtira Fenrir. He got Kashtira Unicorn, instead. Knowing that Fenrir flopped as Pankratops v. 2.0 takes the sting out of it, somewhat.
It may have flopped, but it’s still sitting at almost $80 😭
Unicorn is gonna be more expensive than Fenrir, watch. You might not believe it if you haven't read the new support, but Unicorn is the 1 card combo starter, not Fenrir.
@@FrostGiant17 People still are hyping it because Photon Hypernova
@@dracoblizzard7944 but you play fenrir in the next best Deck. ishizu kash tear. i can see that kashtira will flop as a Deck cause it has so many fcking counter to it
I bought a box of Darkwing Blast and my two secrets were Mukraker and a Ghotti card. All my ultra rares were Ghotti and Ninjas. Meanwhile I opened 5 Fenrir and three Magnamhut out of the ten splat packs I bought at my grocery store.
3:56
Insert GigaChad
funny how rescue is unironically broken.
"Nekroz might be playable with this new tech" everytime anything remotely splashable in a ritual deck gets released
This video aged poorly
I needed that Ed Edd and eddy reference. Thank you MBT.
@YUGIOH-MBT oh wow thanks!
@YUGIOH-MBT if, and only if, you can prove you’re the real MBT
Life has many doors, MBT-boy!
my take that was wrong was "I will eventually see a yugioh player read." oh well
I had a take from years ago that was one hundred percent correct. No one would believed me when I said number 89 would be broken someday
I was such a simp for Mind Hacker since it came out that the moment I saw Kashtira it's where my brain went.
I once looked through every rank 7 to try and use in a Red-Eyes deck and though Mind Hacker was the best one ever, and if only there was a better rank 7 engine to abuse him...
@@mateusrp1994 for this reason you should advocate for the unban of the Dragon Rulers.
Or play a harpie deck lol
Much more excited for the new support for my top archtype of all time, Superheavy Samuri
Ed, Eddie, and Eddy reference in the intro? Common DireYGO W
MBT having humility is nice to see. Character growth is based.
The Ed Edd and eddy opening was amazing
loved the ed edd n' eddy intro
Props to Dire for that cool as hell Ed Ed and Eddy intro.
That Fenrir take is completely off base. Even if the Kashtira archetype didn't exist outside of that singular card it'd still be unthinkably powerful and a staple
yeah this video is only 11 days old, and it's ALREADY outdated. meta game is crazyyyy af bruh
As Beetrooper user in MD, you either take short combo to add 2 handtraps Maxx "C" and Retaliating "C", with an additional Sting Lancer if your hand good enough. Or you can take the long line make 3 Beater from 3k Link untargeted and can't be destroyed (Mirrorjade say hai), another 3K but can comeback if destroyed or banished, and 4K boy who don't care about everything. Or you can summon Xyz with permanent negate monster (Cicada) and Winda at home (Scary Moth).
I started playing Beetrooper in part because of the Maxx C promise, but I'm pretty sure I only ever play it if I hard draw it at this point. Making the big boys is way stronger than constantly threatening to refill my hand.
Who is the 4k?
@@thezestylime0989 I see. I never use the fusion myself so I forgot it even existed
This video reminds me of when I used to play rainbow neos as a rogue pick then I looked at how expensive the deck was on master duel when it released and didn't touch it since. Sad verte ban killed what was a pretty fun going 2nd deck
I used to Verte out Rainbow Neos and equip it with Megamorph for an easy OTK.
The Yugioh community? Wrong? Impossible.
I remember getting full comboed by Magikey during Swordsoul format and having to break the board with Swordsouls, which is actually my favorite thing to do in Swordsoul. Post-siding, my Nibiru even got Crossout'd. Can't believe I pulled it off.
Dragon Link was always good, even after the Elpy ban. People who thought that would kill the deck probably hadn’t played dragons that much. Heck, it was probably the best deck in Adventure Format-it won my regionals in May when half the room was on Branded Despia. Alba didn’t even put a dent in the decks ability to succeed because, despite how many times it gets said, setting Albaz actually isn’t an FTK against dragon. The Bystials are really nice for the deck now too, but it’s not like D Link wasn’t relevant in the months prior. +Dragons have a decent Tear match-up because of them. The Dragon synergy is strong and it’s not going anywhere, folks.
I believe to this day that Konami's recent focus on Wyrm archetypes was a response to D-Link, the moment they put out any good dragon support the deck just gets better.
@@HumanoidCableDreads You're not the only one saying this. IMO, wyrms are cards that would have just been dragon type in the past, but they wanted to start differentiating synergies while still working with similar themes. Tenyi cards and Swordsoul cards are good examples since their design seems to be based on traditional Asian depictions of dragons in mythology, but if those cards were dragon type, it'd be game warping.
@@TeaGarrison I agree 100%.
@@HumanoidCableDreads that wasnt dragon link that was BASED complitly different mate
7:50 MBT predicting the Rescue A.C.E support 3 months early
That was a fucking incredible intro.
Now to hope dire will do an intro using Cow & Chicken's titlecard theme.
THIS!
I remember people were saying we'd need an emergency ban for HERO Kid because it'd be too powerful with Sprights. Turns out even Sprights can't make HERO Kid playable.
Poor Hero Kid 😢
Greatest Yugioh intro of all time, got hit right in the nostalgia
YOOO IS THAT AN ED, EDD, & EDDY REFERENCE!?!?!!? DIRE W!
3:28 Oof, I'm really feeling the Magikey stuff. I have a deck in Master Duel that's just begging for a teeny-tiny bit of support to be a little more consistent.
Sadly Halqi is what made that deck so good, without it the deck is mid at best. Which sucks because I love it from a design and flavor standpoint.
That Ed Edd n Eddy intro was amazing!!
“Cross duel will be good after beta”. Brother I’ma have to cause a Jesus crisis for you and it’s announced closing
Yeah, I mean they released firewall dragon from the banlist with a simple errata, why can't they just give one to Gumblar dragon? Make it cyberse exclusive so mathmech can make it instead of appolusa.
Remember the debate of best deck between sprite and tear… then it turns out there are sprite cards that are better in tear than sprite
Dire: You, in and of yourself, are a love letter to this community. What a fantastic & nostalgic intro. If I wasnt using my paycheck to get 5% on singles and sealed products by clicking the link in the description and using code: CIMO5, I would donate to a Dire patreon
intro of the year
Love the Ed edd Eddie intro
campaign to make the EEnE title card the permanent MBT opening
I still remember MBT calling scareclaw just Accesscode turbo. That was a rough one.
Magikey got all that hype only to have 1 copy of Batosbuster and the negate counter trap show up in a topping drytron deck.
Pretty good tech choice tho
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I'm never wrong, and if you i'm wrong, you're wrong about me being wrong because i'm never wrong.
Lmao remember when everyone said crossout designator was gonna define the meta
That Ed, Edd and Eddy intro tho
that ed edd eddy MBT hahaha
"They cancelled the Utopia and Dragunity structure decks, but released an albaz deck? Nobody is going to want that!"
Albaz sold out within minutes at my lgs.
Also, waant there a gemini fire steucture deck only in OCG?
Ahhhh yes Ed Edd and Eddy to start must be a good video I’ll watch lol
7:52 this aged poorly
Still remember some takes that hopefully suships will get second support, that is backrows
Imma waiting here
Direygo made an ed edd n eddy referente, best video
I really wish konami treated MD better, I CANT play paper format, and really like the accessibility of MD. I've been meaning to make a switch to other programs but it's been hard primarily due to being PC only.
have you tried smth like ygo omega
Ok but here’s the real question: is MBT Ed, edd, or eddy?
Edd for sure
Eddy
Remember how prior to Yata coming back, every time it was brought up that Yata could come back some people were like NOOOO BUT THE HAND LOOP
But it is fucking sad that Master Duel didn't have like a "tier" system, with a system where each tier you go up it increases the card pool. People who like super simple casual Yugioh could play in the lower tiers, while people who like playing with all the cards in the game can do that.
"Double down on refusing to read them..."
Forgive me Father for I have sinned. The last time I read a Yu-Gi-Oh! card was 4 years ago. I refuse to read Drytron, Bird Up, Tribrigade, the Branded-adjacent archetypes, and Tearlament. I literally have to relearn each one when I watch a video/play against them. What is my penance?
Change my mind but desert twister should be the basis for a new arctype in the vain of the bestials
Who told MBT about the Tier 0 Rescue-ACE Strategy!? I was trying to keep that under wraps…
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This aged like milk on the sun
CYBER DRAGON SUPREMACY!!!!
The ed edd n eddy intro went too hard
To be fair mathmech is just kinda unlucky since the tear ishizu match up is probably on of the worst you could imagine while the deck also happens to be tier 0
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i am from 2024 and people ask for fenrir bans constantly while kashtira is just an engine for better decks
IDGAF about the meta of 2022, I was proven so very wrong with one of my longstanding favorite archetypes never being printed in the OCG: Puppet Chess by Reiko Kitamori from Yu-Gi-Oh R. You have no idea how giddy I am to see Battlefield Tragedy and some Puppet Chess monsters finally see the light of day!!
One thing OG players got wrong is accepting the new game play style that's out!!
IMO: It makes the game 3 times harder to understand.
Also allowing the new cards to not meld with the old cards.
Changing the rules what felt like every year.. Ohy!
A Huge F U to the OG Players!!
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and zealantis is finally good
I was so fucking wrong for just hoping that Konami acknowledging cyber dragon’s existence would mean we are getting support WE WILL GET SUPPORT SOMEDAY AND WE WILL BE GOOD PROBABLY TEIR 1 ANCIENT GEAR GOT SUPPORT LAST SET CYBER DRAGONS WILL GET SUPPORT