Idk, around the Abyss Rising era Gungnir was briefly a chase card and I remember successfully opening and flipping a dozen or so advent calendars that year.
I mean advent calendar usually has like 24 slots so if like all of them are filled 1 dollar worth of packs each you'll get 24 dollar worth of packs for 20 dollar.
You can't really surpass MTG 30 anniversary edition. It's so awful that it managed to upset the Mtg, Yugioh and Pokemon communities; that's an accomplishment on it self.
@graztriton8431 no. the fact they made proxies of cards they promised to never sell again was bad enough. then they had the audacity to charge more than what a regular pack, or even what a collector pack costs. for this garbage. it's be like if LoB cards were never allowed to be printed after MRD came out, then konami decided to reprint LoB as a set but randomise the packs and charge 1k per. that's what happened. nobody would buy LoB proxy packs for 500. they wouldn't do it in mtg either
@@UMAtronic I’d honestly say $4-5 would work. For a pack of non-tournament legal cards, or a booster box for draft, I’d want it to just be normal draft box pricing, maybe even cheaper
The MTG 30th anniversary was litterally made by people who never played MTG a day in their fucking life, might actually hate all card games, or they are just an investor.
Back in the early 2000s, a mom came into our local card shop to buy her very young son his first "booster box." She noticed one that was significantly cheaper than the rest, so she purchased it for him and they left excitedly. Moments later, the mom came back inside feeling furious that every single pack had identical cards in it. She purchased a "box" of the Movie Exclusive pack. The poor kid was heartbroken. He ended up being okay in the long run - we're still in touch - but what a rough early outing into the game.
Poor kid :( That was just a bad decision on Konami’s part. The point of packs is to get people to buy a bunch of them in the hopes that they get rare powerful cards, it was a stupid business decision for them to have the same cards in each.
@@knockout8157 - 100% agreed. It was so misleading to customers who weren't actively buying products. While I get the "idea" for recruiting newer fans - every pack has ALL the rare cards, so no need to hunt - it doesn't give the actual idea of what YuGiOh is like.
@@polocatfan - Absolutely, and several of the regular players felt that way. I think I'm gonna bring this up to him this week and see what he remembers. 😄
That bit at the end is the thing to keep in mind out of all of this; for all the bad sets, janky toys, and video games that were effectively paying $40 for a card, all of them are still functional, usable products. The MtG cards are literally unplayable in official tournaments. You are giving Wizards a thousand dollars for *a chance* to get something you could print for yourself for pennies!
The funniest thing is how true that last part is. There are proxy MTG card websites that sell INCREDIBLY convincing proxies (like as in I literally held one of my proxies up to the real deal and COULD NOT FIND ONE SINGULAR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM) for the LOW LOW. Like getting 60 dollar cards for 50 cents to a dollar plus shipping.
Honestly the video games were the best way to play yugioh for a bit. You didn't have to ask your parents for 50 bucks for a piece of cardboard to help build a deck, you had a time capsule of what the game was at this point of time, later you could play against other players deck online. Really the cardboard was the bonus.
At least some of the games are actually pretty fun. The Tag Force games are enjoyable as ways to play against A.I. back when the game DIDN'T feel like solitaire where you can't do anything after because the opponent has an utterly unbreakable board with all of their counters
The only thing close to the 30th Anniversary was learning that you had to PAY PER DUEL on YGO Online. At least that wasn't advertised as a way to celebrate the game's legacy but holy shit
to be fair, by 2007, they changed it so you didn't pay per duel, Also it was like 2005 and Komoney was trying to figure out how to monetize a simulator.
And it was fun. It used the real life card packs. You got cards from winning, and money. You could trade too. You know, all the basics of a tcg. Paying per duel when you get a prize at the end (lose or win) isn't that weird.. unless you've never set foot at a local. The only thing missing was a casual duel that didnt cost nothing but won you nothing, yes. Also they indeed did change it with 5D. And guess what? That made the game 10 time worse and more P2W than ever before.
The old days of the internet my dude and yeah, the way that game worked was atrocious. One of the reasons I never got to play it back in the day because you had to pay to duel and since I was a teenager, it was impossible for me.
Still amazing that YGO has released the only video game even temporarily banned in the US because of fraud. Not Blizzard. Not WB. Not EA. Yu-Gi-Flipping-Oh. That takes an impressive amount of effort.
No way the average YGO player even knows what deodorant is, based on how my last YCS event smelled. And no, Axe body spray is not a substitute for bathing.
Legacy of the Duelist (base game) is really good if you're a fan of the anime. You get to play a ton of duels forward and backward with constructed decks for both sides. You get to play all scenarios as villains as well and try to figure out how to win with dogwater cards.
Yeah I don’t get it it’s not supposed to be a constantly updated simulator. It’s supposed to cover every single anime duel. What more does a person want from a game where the entirety of the single player content is anime duels with anime decks (though you can use your own deck if you want)?
The baffling thing for me was despite the big single player pulling cards for a deck could be a NIGHTMARE. i remember grinding points for so long just for a chance to maybe pull a set of like 3 cards of a pack to complete a deck
Yeah, the way Magic did their 30th packs would be if like Konami had done that Platinum Blue-Eyes and charged like $100,000 for a chance to get it or one of the other main character/antagonist cards. $1,000 for the one card is still kinda ridiculous but at least there was a reason for it to be so expensive, wasn't treated as the player facing anniversary celebration, and wasn't random. If Wizards had just made these boxes either $100 or guaranteed you the entire set for $250 in a DUDE-like manner I would bet they would have never seen these complaints. It's still frankly ridiculous for fake cards with nothing special about them like being made of an expensive metal but that would be far more within most people's price range for what it is. Of course the right thing to do really would have been to just reprint those cards normally and stop pandering to the scalper market which people who just want to play the game don't care about, but we're talking about a company who thought that was a good idea to ever do to begin with. Common sense has clearly not ever been a thing they have or desired to have (if they did it certainly wouldn't have taken 30 years to obtain it).
Funnily enough, Number Hunters was the first piece of YGO product I ever got as a kid. I pulled Fortune Tune as a secret rare and I have the distinct memory of looking at it as the magpie part of my brain in the back of my head just thought "oooo shiny!".
Remember the early Yu-Gi-Oh figures that had stuff like Fiend Kraken and Killer Needle. Not good enough to put on cardboard at the time, but good enough to be molded into plastic. Make it make sense.
The editor pointed this out, but Link Evolution actually *did* get a major update... but back in 2020, and then never again. And it doesn't have crossplay. It also has a weird format, IIRC halq pile, Invoked Shaddoll, and maybe Lyrilusc Raid raptor were the best decks. Spyral might be crazy, can't remember.
It's mekknight invoked halq pile and it's a beautiful mess that works cause it's weird banlist. Same with infinitracks can make a board of savage, arc light and dawn dragster. Cyber dragons where also a deck to beat because it's so easy to build and only required like 1 pack 10/10 best format
I wish yugioh did the same thing as pokemon does with their digital counterpart. Real life packs should have a code inside the pack you can enter in master duel that lets you open a master pack or something. But they wont do it cuz master duel needs to make money on its own
@@kennydarmawan13 You mean the 'formats' yes plural, that exist solely to, a, prevent people from suing over product they paid for being deleted after x number of years, and b, sell overpriced as hell digital cards that warp the entire said formats around them that didn't even exist in the formats they were attempting to keep alive?
@@fanusobscurus you roasted WotC there. I mean, Yu-Gi-Oh!'s cards aren't designed around being functional on its own as much as Magic: the Gathering, so making formats for that needs more practice and idea, and even that's uncertain.
I felt so bad when I saw that my parents got me both speed duel packs and that gold box set at 5:40 for Christmas. I had just started playing IRL again and even I knew how bad a deal these.
Konami, no. UDE on the other hand... For those who don't know, Konami at least has the dignity to NOT MAKE COUNTERFEITS OF THE PRODUCT THEY'RE SELLING, SHILL THEM OFF TO A THIRD PARTY DISTRIBUTOR, AND THEN TRY TO SUE TAKAHASHI-SAN SAYING THE COUNTERFEITS ACTUALLY CAME FROM ILLEGAL CHINESE FACTORIES. Yes, this is real, this is something UDE did. It was one of the points in the game where fan fears of it dying off were actually understandable and well-grounded. To this day, I have to wonder if those counterfeit cards are worth anything, monetarily, due to their part in making (and nearly ending) Yugioh history. Then again, Konami DID have weird-ass GX reprints shipped in with figures of their corresponding monsters, that - despite no one actually giving two shits of a Giant Rat's ass about - became so ludicrously hard to find, and thus expensive, that before someone found a binder full of them in their basement 15+ years later, ONE SET OF SAID CARDS WERE CONSIDERED A MYTH IN THEIR EXISTENCE!
I remember when the Wii game Duel Transer was advertised with a cool adaptor that lets you scan your own cards into the game to unlock them. When that got canceled, Duel Transer became boring.
So it’s not the TCG, but I think the worst Yugioh product decision Konami made was releasing the “missing child tokens” in Korea during the GX era. Literally a full set of tokens featuring actual photos of kidnapped children, one per pack. I’m sure it felt bizarre as a child to see that right on the heels of you new holo neo spacian cards, not to mention the implication of making a set of them as part of a collectible card game.
I know one item that I WISH would have made it: Konami once advertised a home card reader that could scan your cards for play in the video games. It apparently never came out because they could not get it to read high-rarity cards. The holo-foil kept messing with the sensors.
white horned dragon ACTUALLY worked for me in eternal format. as side option against sky striker. banishing six spells from their grave yard off of not hard once per turn REDMD was absolutely insane.
Nonono, but I'm absolutely with the person that submitted World Duel Carnival 3DS I was excited for it - finally another singleplayer YGO game! And about Zexal, which I knew nothing about! - and then they absolutely GUTTED the international release by removing a bunch of the character storylines from 40 + 1 to a whopping... 13 + 1 (one of them being the player character) (as far as I can tell it was structured like a fighting game arcade mode where your opponents (and your deck of course) would depend on which character you selected, so there was just flat out less replayability in the international version)
On the topic of video game promos, remember that Harpie's Feather Duster was a video game promo? And then even when it was next released it was 3 years later in a tournament pack, and those were the only ways to get it until 2012? Because I liked the games, and in playground Yugioh days kids weren't going to their LGSes for tournaments, and buying singles was also pretty rare, I think I was the only person to have one of the kids I played, and it single handedly turned my otherwise dogshit decks into halfway decent. (I do think it was banned for much of that time, but none of us really knew about the ban list, so we were basically playing Traditional format, since most of us didn't have multiples of banned cards anyway)
most of the people just told him "hey dude. this is actually a scam" ofc there were haters and drama chasers. but it was nice a lot of people actually helped ruxin
Funny thing, the "yugi's legendary deck box" was actually the first yu gi oh cards i ever bought just cause of the simplicity as i wanted to learn with some easier cards, also meant i could teach my brother to use them. And we still play em to this day sometimes lol
Whats even funnier about the videogame thing is that Tag Force 6 and later Tag Force Special are both fantastic, seriously there's well done english translations (in fact TFS got a re-done translation because the first one was vulgar and memeified by one guy) And the games are fully playable on an emulator or hacked PSP. TFS goes up to like, The New Challengers iirc.
Despite looking somewhat dated now, the original Legendary Decks were probably one of the most important ever product releases in the history TCG Yugioh. Before 2015, Yugioh was still not an entirely beloved established franchise and there were no real option to pick up all the OG show cards without spending hundreds to do so. Getting a box with all the OG stuff + 2 extra decks for only $20 was absolutely insane value for any casual collector, and I remember there was an article somewhere that showed that on a massive wholesale website the Legendary decks were in the top 10 best sellers of the year for all collectibles. Not just Yugioh, literally all items in the collectible category. I think Yugioh would look completely different without them
You’re telling me Elon Musk can pour millions of dollars into almost killing Twitter, but can’t spare a couple of bucks to make real life holographic duel disks??? Literally 1984
With the way Elon seems to destroy almost everything he touches, I'm afraid that him trying to make such a duel disk would instead be a thinly-veiled attempt to kill ygo as he makes his own tcg where internet notoriety is the resource and one deck gains such by requiring the player to call their opponent a slur
Also have to acknowledge that Hasbro's company stock dropped after the release of the 30th Anniversary product. Hasbro has been considering making Wizard of the Coast its own company because of how much everyone hates their products right now.
I remember Power of Chaos, a PC game that was released somewhere around early GX era, but had only up to Spell Ruler (and not even all of them). All the game did was allow you to duel 1 character, no online or anything. The music was pretty cool but uh...it ain't worth a full priced game.
The worst of all is the Ghost from the past that we get in the tcg because that meant that we would never get the updated Dragunity Structure Deck, MISERABLE
I know the Ursarctics suck(and I wished they would get some support) but theyre so fun to play and I really love them. It kinda sucks that all the archetypes in the set were bad tho.
Imo konami probably tried to half-assedly downplay the game's complexity with that set and war rock and those didn't work, so we get the tier 0 atm. Either that or there was a period after mr4 revision when konami pandered to casual players for some reason
I wish Ursarctic had any gameplan at all against monsters *with a level* lmao. Like, Serpentrion is a decent boss monster, but it just does literally nothing to any monster that isn't an xyz or a link...
Yugioh Online (YGO3) was honestly the pinnacle of my childhood. Taking online surveys and definitely downloading malware to get gift cards so I could buy duelpasses to play... Using Doomcal as currency because it was purchased in the shop for 100 points. Losing all the cards in my account because I gave someone my login info so they could transfer Dooms to me. Yeeeeeeeeeeep peak Yugioh. Duels were essentially 10 cents a game btw. EVERY single game, including vs. AI. 10 cents.
Ah yes, a red glowing and spinnging "Subtly" on an animated burning backdrop to the sound of Nightwish' "Ghost Love Score (Live at Wacken 2013)" with an explosion effect. The definition of subtlety
How did no one mention spirit warriors, the first set I bought when I came back, a deck build pack that has 0 cards playable in anything else, and our own $1000 scam, the platinum blue eyes white dragon, which you also cannot use in a duel
Plat. BEWD is clearly labeled "These cards are not for everyone", is obviously a collector item, limited to one person per product, and they have intrinsic value. Plat. BEWD sold out in the matter of hours while Magic 30th being mocked by everyone.
Duel Carnival was funny as hell. You got to play dogwater anime decks against the 2012 meta under OCG rules also the japanese release was like a solid 2/10 and the rest of the world got the game 2 years later, 1 set before pendulums, machine translated and with 70% of the content missing.
The hell you mean the Japanese release was a 2/10? It has like 40 playable story modes. That alone bumps the rating up a huge amount. The English release got 12 story modes, and they “compensated” us by adding art sleeves and game mats, as if that makes it okay. Game is awesome btw. I still play it because I can make a full alien deck on it without having to unlock any cards. It’s rad. And you know you can edit the anime story decks, right? Each character has a trunk of cards each with their own unique card pool. Did you just not bother making the decks better?
I really like the yugi decks, as a sort of prop or replica of something that was in the fictional series, they're cool. Yes the Duelist Kingdom deck has no wincon but that's accurate to the cartoon.
I'm surprised to not see the Noble Knight box was included here. Included at the time most if not all Noble Knights, Merlin, Noble Knight sleeves and playmat and to top it all off a rarity that was only printed in that set
Because that was a banger product??? Noble Knights may be utter dogshit, but Platinum Rarity is the best looking rarity in the entire game to this day. (The supporting packs that you got 3 of in the box also included actually good cards, like a Platinum Rare Veiler/Torrential/Solemn)
I also resent that comment about Synchro Storm. I bought two boxes, got 2 copies of Baronne De Fleur, 1 GR hi speedroid cycle thing and an entire Speedroid core, which is what I was looking for. Deck is extremely playable and works as a good fun combo deck. Set would have been fine if the Lyrilusc boss monster hadn't been hit, now it's back at 2.
As someone who also buys OCG cards, not getting a rare doesn't feel awful at all. The odds are still the same per box, essentially, there's just a bunch of extra packs that don't have a rare in the box. You might think "Why would I want more packs of random commons?" but ironically you actually get less bulk taking up space since the packs have less cards in them to begin with. Of course then you might think "But I paid the same for less cards?!" And maybe you did. But at least what you got actually goes through quality control processes unlike seemingly everything over here at this point. And the same thing actually does apply to speed duel. Their cards are much higher quality.
As a follow up to my other comment, the other cards associated with Metalmorph were in other games as promos and not in regular sets. Although this could also apply to the magnet Warriors since Valkyrion was a promo for a different game and it was on a completely different game system roo.
World Duel Carnaval in NA was bad because it didn't have a Physical Release, and the NA version didn't have the Single Player mode at all. All you could do was play duels with bots with all cards available.
I still loved my duel disk. The fact that it had a switch so it came together and then turned to the side of your arm was awesome, and my nephews just see it as a weird axe.
Ancient Guardians got me back into yugioh tbh - but 100% right that those three archetypes just don’t work efficiently to keep up. They’re fun to play against each other more than anything
RIGHT !? My gf got me one for 2 years running and I loved them. They were fun and I still consider them to be max rarity for a lot of the cards contained.
Though it's it terrible condition, I still have the Duel Disk I bought as a kid in 2004. One of the side broke off so it's literally bolted together and, thus, cannot switch forms. Still, nice bit of cosplay material and legacy pride.
4:09 counter point: it includes speedroid support which is great for the archetype and basically makes the deck playable and gives some great boss monsters, fuck the lyrilusc
I got into yugioh during Hidden Arsenal 1 and it was a nightmare, it truly was the Ice Barrier of sets: a handful of decent and even good extra deck monsters that you could never pull for your deck that couldn’t make them anyway.
I had kinda had the Yugioh bathset. I know I used the millennium puzzle soap on a rope but I took it from my little brother since it was a gift for him and I was jealous that he got it and I didn't, because my grandma didn't think it was a girls thing. Plus he was barely old enough to play. I know it's 6+ but he played by Duelist Kingdom rules.
Nah, the bathroom set was ahead of its time. (I remember getting it as a kid.) I also remember getting a starter pack for the Dungeon Dice Monster spinoff game...
3:05 What about cards from one game where they needed cards from another game to actually play? Valkyrion the Magna Warrior came with new copies of Stairway to the Destined Duel while the three Magnet Warriors came from Duelist of the Roses. Also, Duelist of the Roses is the only Yugioh video game with a password system to get cards that doesn't use the codes printed on the cards. To make matters worse, the Magnet Warriors weren't even in the game! You couldn't even use the promo cards you just got in the game you got them from!
Okay I know it's considered a sin but I'm gonna defend world duel carnival a little bit, just in that I do think it's better the modern legacy of the duelist games. The multiple playable characters in the story mode which each had their own unique card trunk to create deck from made it fun to go through a campaign and see what decks you could build from the limited pool. Still not as good a Tag or the later WCS but, for a $20 download far from the worst thing ever.
It's worth noting the Yugi decks did come woth a reprint of BLS, which I know because I didn't want to buy one for $10 and then I realized I had one on my shelf.
Ogdoadics (i.e. reptiles in general) need an end boss, ursarctic is dead until decent 8+ tuners get made (preferably ones with GY floating in case they get dropped off), and solfachords are...kinda in the same place as a lot of pend decks: a lot of combo potential, but isn't allowed to slow down and can't deal with more than a single interruption (I know this is probably a bad idea for some reason, but I think the best option would be pendulum monster hand traps. maybe they add themselves from the hand to the ED face-up for the effect which would hilariously bypass called by. otherwise the only option would be to make them able to push through a full board break like nib, and I'd prefer the option that ISN'T worse than full power tear)
Comparing to MTG I think Yu-Gi-Oh has a pretty good product line, but I do disagree with how many secrets there are in a standard box compared to how many are worth pulling. But MTG having like 4 different booster boxes for each set is just mind numbing and no one wants to google card lists and differences to buy a box of cardboard.
Anyone remember the other Yugioh pc games where you could only duel Yugi, Kaiba, or Joey based on the version? I remember those stinking. Thank goodness for the World Championship and Tag Force games.
Wonder if they knew about a marketing stunt in Yu-Gi-Oh that WASN'T from Konami, but BANDAI, with their first rendition of Yu-Gi-Oh The Rendition that was more "Oh hey its a scene from Season 0, Everyone knows that! Buy these cards NOW!" Worst thing is, they print the RULES of the game...IN THE GODDAMN CARDS.
Rush Duel never got updated outside of Japan? Maybe it's for the best. I know people joke about games looking like they're from the past when they have bad graphics, but this one literally looks like a PS2 game.
Haunted mines was a banger for me. I saw it first at a flea market, went to an ATM to get some cash, called my shot and told everyone there I would lose my mind if i hit a blue-eyes, and by god it hit a blue-eyes and LOST MY SHIT. Amazing memory, 11/10 would pay the 5 dollar ATM fee to do it again.
We also got a modern rework of the original Duel Disk that was objectively worse by getting rid of the spring tab that holds the cards in the deck slot, making the graveyard smaller, and making the cover that went over top of it flatter and less detailed. Plus all of the tabs and hinges were loose. All for the low, low price of $100 on release before being heavily marked down. EDIT: Say what you want about the movie exclusive pack, I still run Shining Dragon in my deck to this day and actually have used it a number of times to win.
I'm surprised no one brought up the Yugioh advent calendars. They were only $20, but for that you got maybe $1 worth of common pack-filler cards.
Idk, around the Abyss Rising era Gungnir was briefly a chase card and I remember successfully opening and flipping a dozen or so advent calendars that year.
Eh, those weren't for the cards themselves, but the novelty. I can give it a pass.
I mean advent calendar usually has like 24 slots so if like all of them are filled 1 dollar worth of packs each you'll get 24 dollar worth of packs for 20 dollar.
@@yuuya3639 bruh they didnt have 24 packs, they had 24 cards lmao
Ahahaha Santa Claws is $12 now ahahaha the future rules
You can't really surpass MTG 30 anniversary edition. It's so awful that it managed to upset the Mtg, Yugioh and Pokemon communities; that's an accomplishment on it self.
At the rate it's going, it's going to massively upset those who distribute and sell pearls.
@graztriton8431 no. the fact they made proxies of cards they promised to never sell again was bad enough. then they had the audacity to charge more than what a regular pack, or even what a collector pack costs. for this garbage. it's be like if LoB cards were never allowed to be printed after MRD came out, then konami decided to reprint LoB as a set but randomise the packs and charge 1k per. that's what happened. nobody would buy LoB proxy packs for 500. they wouldn't do it in mtg either
@@jakebennett9130 maybe 8 dollars per pack. But i just think nobody really care even then.
@@UMAtronic I’d honestly say $4-5 would work. For a pack of non-tournament legal cards, or a booster box for draft, I’d want it to just be normal draft box pricing, maybe even cheaper
The MTG 30th anniversary was litterally made by people who never played MTG a day in their fucking life, might actually hate all card games, or they are just an investor.
Back in the early 2000s, a mom came into our local card shop to buy her very young son his first "booster box." She noticed one that was significantly cheaper than the rest, so she purchased it for him and they left excitedly. Moments later, the mom came back inside feeling furious that every single pack had identical cards in it.
She purchased a "box" of the Movie Exclusive pack. The poor kid was heartbroken. He ended up being okay in the long run - we're still in touch - but what a rough early outing into the game.
Poor kid :(
That was just a bad decision on Konami’s part. The point of packs is to get people to buy a bunch of them in the hopes that they get rare powerful cards, it was a stupid business decision for them to have the same cards in each.
@@knockout8157 - 100% agreed. It was so misleading to customers who weren't actively buying products. While I get the "idea" for recruiting newer fans - every pack has ALL the rare cards, so no need to hunt - it doesn't give the actual idea of what YuGiOh is like.
the local card shop should have really informed her of that.
@@polocatfan - Absolutely, and several of the regular players felt that way. I think I'm gonna bring this up to him this week and see what he remembers. 😄
That bit at the end is the thing to keep in mind out of all of this; for all the bad sets, janky toys, and video games that were effectively paying $40 for a card, all of them are still functional, usable products. The MtG cards are literally unplayable in official tournaments. You are giving Wizards a thousand dollars for *a chance* to get something you could print for yourself for pennies!
The funniest thing is how true that last part is. There are proxy MTG card websites that sell INCREDIBLY convincing proxies (like as in I literally held one of my proxies up to the real deal and COULD NOT FIND ONE SINGULAR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM) for the LOW LOW. Like getting 60 dollar cards for 50 cents to a dollar plus shipping.
Honestly the video games were the best way to play yugioh for a bit. You didn't have to ask your parents for 50 bucks for a piece of cardboard to help build a deck, you had a time capsule of what the game was at this point of time, later you could play against other players deck online. Really the cardboard was the bonus.
At least some of the games are actually pretty fun. The Tag Force games are enjoyable as ways to play against A.I. back when the game DIDN'T feel like solitaire where you can't do anything after because the opponent has an utterly unbreakable board with all of their counters
The only thing close to the 30th Anniversary was learning that you had to PAY PER DUEL on YGO Online. At least that wasn't advertised as a way to celebrate the game's legacy but holy shit
Fun thing is you had to pay to also play the A I.
to be fair, by 2007, they changed it so you didn't pay per duel, Also it was like 2005 and Komoney was trying to figure out how to monetize a simulator.
And it was fun. It used the real life card packs. You got cards from winning, and money. You could trade too. You know, all the basics of a tcg. Paying per duel when you get a prize at the end (lose or win) isn't that weird.. unless you've never set foot at a local. The only thing missing was a casual duel that didnt cost nothing but won you nothing, yes.
Also they indeed did change it with 5D. And guess what? That made the game 10 time worse and more P2W than ever before.
The old days of the internet my dude and yeah, the way that game worked was atrocious. One of the reasons I never got to play it back in the day because you had to pay to duel and since I was a teenager, it was impossible for me.
Still amazing that YGO has released the only video game even temporarily banned in the US because of fraud. Not Blizzard. Not WB. Not EA. Yu-Gi-Flipping-Oh.
That takes an impressive amount of effort.
Konami sucks
Was it the zexal 3rd game?
YGO Players to Wizards: Please, PLEASE stop giving Konami ideas!
It was suspended because of the users using it as a fraud, not because it was a fraud.
Multiple Yugioh games are banned in Belgium, so it's super funny whenever Konami gets a Belgian guy to promote them.
They should sell deodorants in YCS because everyone is becoming sweaty over time
No way the average YGO player even knows what deodorant is, based on how my last YCS event smelled. And no, Axe body spray is not a substitute for bathing.
they should just bring back the Dirt Dueler kit and give them away to everyone who shows up
I always wear deodorant and shower everyday, and I am the dumbass who plays Bystial/Branded Dragonmaids
I work construction so having a shower every day is my normal
I'm pretty sure I saw a Yu-Gi-Oh Millenium Puzzle bath salt released by Konami in 2020, so there's that.
Legacy of the Duelist (base game) is really good if you're a fan of the anime. You get to play a ton of duels forward and backward with constructed decks for both sides. You get to play all scenarios as villains as well and try to figure out how to win with dogwater cards.
Yeah I don’t get it it’s not supposed to be a constantly updated simulator. It’s supposed to cover every single anime duel. What more does a person want from a game where the entirety of the single player content is anime duels with anime decks (though you can use your own deck if you want)?
The baffling thing for me was despite the big single player pulling cards for a deck could be a NIGHTMARE. i remember grinding points for so long just for a chance to maybe pull a set of like 3 cards of a pack to complete a deck
You know what the wise man says:
“The worst Yu-Gi-Oh! product is the one that is yet to come.”
-Sun Tzu, probably
Yeah I think there's a difference between "this set is really bad competitively" and "this is a scam"
Yeah, the way Magic did their 30th packs would be if like Konami had done that Platinum Blue-Eyes and charged like $100,000 for a chance to get it or one of the other main character/antagonist cards.
$1,000 for the one card is still kinda ridiculous but at least there was a reason for it to be so expensive, wasn't treated as the player facing anniversary celebration, and wasn't random.
If Wizards had just made these boxes either $100 or guaranteed you the entire set for $250 in a DUDE-like manner I would bet they would have never seen these complaints.
It's still frankly ridiculous for fake cards with nothing special about them like being made of an expensive metal but that would be far more within most people's price range for what it is.
Of course the right thing to do really would have been to just reprint those cards normally and stop pandering to the scalper market which people who just want to play the game don't care about, but we're talking about a company who thought that was a good idea to ever do to begin with. Common sense has clearly not ever been a thing they have or desired to have (if they did it certainly wouldn't have taken 30 years to obtain it).
Imagine having to pay per game in Master Duel and the opponent wins the coin flip and goes full Drytron combo.
I remember the hygiene products, the soap and shower gel were alright, but the deodorant bar was worse than dollar store quality.
Funnily enough, Number Hunters was the first piece of YGO product I ever got as a kid. I pulled Fortune Tune as a secret rare and I have the distinct memory of looking at it as the magpie part of my brain in the back of my head just thought "oooo shiny!".
Remember the early Yu-Gi-Oh figures that had stuff like Fiend Kraken and Killer Needle. Not good enough to put on cardboard at the time, but good enough to be molded into plastic. Make it make sense.
Funnily enough, Fiend Kraken is still not in the TCG, but it's retrain is.
At least we still got Killer Needle. How else do I out Statue of Stormwinds with my Beetrooper deck?
@@colossaldonut5190 somehow it's usable now in beetrooper
The editor pointed this out, but Link Evolution actually *did* get a major update... but back in 2020, and then never again. And it doesn't have crossplay.
It also has a weird format, IIRC halq pile, Invoked Shaddoll, and maybe Lyrilusc Raid raptor were the best decks. Spyral might be crazy, can't remember.
It's mekknight invoked halq pile and it's a beautiful mess that works cause it's weird banlist.
Same with infinitracks can make a board of savage, arc light and dawn dragster.
Cyber dragons where also a deck to beat because it's so easy to build and only required like 1 pack
10/10 best format
I wish yugioh did the same thing as pokemon does with their digital counterpart. Real life packs should have a code inside the pack you can enter in master duel that lets you open a master pack or something. But they wont do it cuz master duel needs to make money on its own
At least Master Duel doesn't do something like Alchemy and includes as many cards as possible.
@@kennydarmawan13 You mean the 'formats' yes plural, that exist solely to, a, prevent people from suing over product they paid for being deleted after x number of years, and b, sell overpriced as hell digital cards that warp the entire said formats around them that didn't even exist in the formats they were attempting to keep alive?
@@fanusobscurus you roasted WotC there.
I mean, Yu-Gi-Oh!'s cards aren't designed around being functional on its own as much as Magic: the Gathering, so making formats for that needs more practice and idea, and even that's uncertain.
I felt so bad when I saw that my parents got me both speed duel packs and that gold box set at 5:40 for Christmas. I had just started playing IRL again and even I knew how bad a deal these.
They tried
Konami, no. UDE on the other hand...
For those who don't know, Konami at least has the dignity to NOT MAKE COUNTERFEITS OF THE PRODUCT THEY'RE SELLING, SHILL THEM OFF TO A THIRD PARTY DISTRIBUTOR, AND THEN TRY TO SUE TAKAHASHI-SAN SAYING THE COUNTERFEITS ACTUALLY CAME FROM ILLEGAL CHINESE FACTORIES. Yes, this is real, this is something UDE did. It was one of the points in the game where fan fears of it dying off were actually understandable and well-grounded. To this day, I have to wonder if those counterfeit cards are worth anything, monetarily, due to their part in making (and nearly ending) Yugioh history.
Then again, Konami DID have weird-ass GX reprints shipped in with figures of their corresponding monsters, that - despite no one actually giving two shits of a Giant Rat's ass about - became so ludicrously hard to find, and thus expensive, that before someone found a binder full of them in their basement 15+ years later, ONE SET OF SAID CARDS WERE CONSIDERED A MYTH IN THEIR EXISTENCE!
I remember when the Wii game Duel Transer was advertised with a cool adaptor that lets you scan your own cards into the game to unlock them. When that got canceled, Duel Transer became boring.
So it’s not the TCG, but I think the worst Yugioh product decision Konami made was releasing the “missing child tokens” in Korea during the GX era. Literally a full set of tokens featuring actual photos of kidnapped children, one per pack. I’m sure it felt bizarre as a child to see that right on the heels of you new holo neo spacian cards, not to mention the implication of making a set of them as part of a collectible card game.
'yugioh cards depicting real kidnapped children' sounds like the start of a godawful creepypasta
.....i know someone who collects those.
...What???
Are you making this up? This can't be real
What . . .
Wha . . .
WHAT THE FUCK!?
I know one item that I WISH would have made it: Konami once advertised a home card reader that could scan your cards for play in the video games. It apparently never came out because they could not get it to read high-rarity cards. The holo-foil kept messing with the sensors.
still have some small hate from my parents giving away my duel disk
white horned dragon ACTUALLY worked for me in eternal format. as side option against sky striker. banishing six spells from their grave yard off of not hard once per turn REDMD was absolutely insane.
Mentioned in a previous Twitter Thread video incidentally.
Nonono, but I'm absolutely with the person that submitted World Duel Carnival 3DS
I was excited for it - finally another singleplayer YGO game! And about Zexal, which I knew nothing about! - and then they absolutely GUTTED the international release by removing a bunch of the character storylines from 40 + 1 to a whopping... 13 + 1 (one of them being the player character)
(as far as I can tell it was structured like a fighting game arcade mode where your opponents (and your deck of course) would depend on which character you selected, so there was just flat out less replayability in the international version)
I can't wait for this series to be renamed to Yu-Gi-Oh Tumblr threads when Twitter eventually dies
On the topic of video game promos, remember that Harpie's Feather Duster was a video game promo? And then even when it was next released it was 3 years later in a tournament pack, and those were the only ways to get it until 2012?
Because I liked the games, and in playground Yugioh days kids weren't going to their LGSes for tournaments, and buying singles was also pretty rare, I think I was the only person to have one of the kids I played, and it single handedly turned my otherwise dogshit decks into halfway decent. (I do think it was banned for much of that time, but none of us really knew about the ban list, so we were basically playing Traditional format, since most of us didn't have multiples of banned cards anyway)
ruxin opening the mtg 30 set was honestly so hilarious i hope he doesn't get any genuine hate
most of the people just told him "hey dude. this is actually a scam" ofc there were haters and drama chasers. but it was nice a lot of people actually helped ruxin
@@jakebennett9130 that's good. it's just such a classic ruxin move i love it
Funny thing, the "yugi's legendary deck box" was actually the first yu gi oh cards i ever bought just cause of the simplicity as i wanted to learn with some easier cards, also meant i could teach my brother to use them. And we still play em to this day sometimes lol
Whats even funnier about the videogame thing is that Tag Force 6 and later Tag Force Special are both fantastic, seriously there's well done english translations (in fact TFS got a re-done translation because the first one was vulgar and memeified by one guy) And the games are fully playable on an emulator or hacked PSP. TFS goes up to like, The New Challengers iirc.
Synchro Storm has the Speedroid support. Automatically GOATed.
3:20 This song is Paralyzer by Finger Eleven. I don't know why I know that off the top of my head, but I do
Despite looking somewhat dated now, the original Legendary Decks were probably one of the most important ever product releases in the history TCG Yugioh. Before 2015, Yugioh was still not an entirely beloved established franchise and there were no real option to pick up all the OG show cards without spending hundreds to do so. Getting a box with all the OG stuff + 2 extra decks for only $20 was absolutely insane value for any casual collector, and I remember there was an article somewhere that showed that on a massive wholesale website the Legendary decks were in the top 10 best sellers of the year for all collectibles. Not just Yugioh, literally all items in the collectible category.
I think Yugioh would look completely different without them
You’re telling me Elon Musk can pour millions of dollars into almost killing Twitter, but can’t spare a couple of bucks to make real life holographic duel disks???
Literally 1984
He didn't spend millions, he spent tens of billions of dollars.
With the way Elon seems to destroy almost everything he touches, I'm afraid that him trying to make such a duel disk would instead be a thinly-veiled attempt to kill ygo as he makes his own tcg where internet notoriety is the resource and one deck gains such by requiring the player to call their opponent a slur
lol Musk's new staff moves to finally ban child p--n from Twitter and of course ygo players are shitting themselves
killing?
lmao, sure
Where's our cardgames on motorcycles, Elon?!
Also have to acknowledge that Hasbro's company stock dropped after the release of the 30th Anniversary product. Hasbro has been considering making Wizard of the Coast its own company because of how much everyone hates their products right now.
I remember Power of Chaos, a PC game that was released somewhere around early GX era, but had only up to Spell Ruler (and not even all of them). All the game did was allow you to duel 1 character, no online or anything. The music was pretty cool but uh...it ain't worth a full priced game.
Seeing your avatar activated a part of my brain that has been starved and I just want to say I appreciate that spore dinosaur
The worst of all is the Ghost from the past that we get in the tcg because that meant that we would never get the updated Dragunity Structure Deck, MISERABLE
Same deal with gftp2 and the updated Agents structure, which had Nibiru in it...
I know the Ursarctics suck(and I wished they would get some support) but theyre so fun to play and I really love them. It kinda sucks that all the archetypes in the set were bad tho.
Literally the best ursarctic does is summon shenshen on the opponent's turn and even that requires a specific hand.
Imo konami probably tried to half-assedly downplay the game's complexity with that set and war rock and those didn't work, so we get the tier 0 atm. Either that or there was a period after mr4 revision when konami pandered to casual players for some reason
I wish Ursarctic had any gameplan at all against monsters *with a level* lmao.
Like, Serpentrion is a decent boss monster, but it just does literally nothing to any monster that isn't an xyz or a link...
@@skeletonwar4445 Well now they do - the deck is Skill Drain Turbo now
Yugioh Online (YGO3) was honestly the pinnacle of my childhood. Taking online surveys and definitely downloading malware to get gift cards so I could buy duelpasses to play... Using Doomcal as currency because it was purchased in the shop for 100 points. Losing all the cards in my account because I gave someone my login info so they could transfer Dooms to me. Yeeeeeeeeeeep peak Yugioh. Duels were essentially 10 cents a game btw. EVERY single game, including vs. AI. 10 cents.
Ah yes, a red glowing and spinnging "Subtly" on an animated burning backdrop to the sound of Nightwish' "Ghost Love Score (Live at Wacken 2013)" with an explosion effect.
The definition of subtlety
0:06 So this was before Dire did the "intro cartoon reference" ..... ?
How did no one mention spirit warriors, the first set I bought when I came back, a deck build pack that has 0 cards playable in anything else, and our own $1000 scam, the platinum blue eyes white dragon, which you also cannot use in a duel
Plat. BEWD is clearly labeled "These cards are not for everyone", is obviously a collector item, limited to one person per product, and they have intrinsic value. Plat. BEWD sold out in the matter of hours while Magic 30th being mocked by everyone.
I'm surprised the Yu-Gi-Oh advent calendars weren't in this.
Duel Carnival was funny as hell. You got to play dogwater anime decks against the 2012 meta under OCG rules also the japanese release was like a solid 2/10 and the rest of the world got the game 2 years later, 1 set before pendulums, machine translated and with 70% of the content missing.
And also no online battle mode. What the hell?
And in that game in the west they somehow gave you all the cards in that game from the start. No need to unlock anything.
@@BananenBread Yes, the banlist can be turned off and one of the opponents plays full powered dragon rulers. There is no pot of greed though
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The hell you mean the Japanese release was a 2/10? It has like 40 playable story modes. That alone bumps the rating up a huge amount. The English release got 12 story modes, and they “compensated” us by adding art sleeves and game mats, as if that makes it okay.
Game is awesome btw. I still play it because I can make a full alien deck on it without having to unlock any cards. It’s rad.
And you know you can edit the anime story decks, right? Each character has a trunk of cards each with their own unique card pool. Did you just not bother making the decks better?
I really like the yugi decks, as a sort of prop or replica of something that was in the fictional series, they're cool. Yes the Duelist Kingdom deck has no wincon but that's accurate to the cartoon.
I'm surprised to not see the Noble Knight box was included here. Included at the time most if not all Noble Knights, Merlin, Noble Knight sleeves and playmat and to top it all off a rarity that was only printed in that set
Because that was a banger product???
Noble Knights may be utter dogshit, but Platinum Rarity is the best looking rarity in the entire game to this day.
(The supporting packs that you got 3 of in the box also included actually good cards, like a Platinum Rare Veiler/Torrential/Solemn)
I also resent that comment about Synchro Storm. I bought two boxes, got 2 copies of Baronne De Fleur, 1 GR hi speedroid cycle thing and an entire Speedroid core, which is what I was looking for. Deck is extremely playable and works as a good fun combo deck. Set would have been fine if the Lyrilusc boss monster hadn't been hit, now it's back at 2.
As someone who also buys OCG cards, not getting a rare doesn't feel awful at all.
The odds are still the same per box, essentially, there's just a bunch of extra packs that don't have a rare in the box.
You might think "Why would I want more packs of random commons?" but ironically you actually get less bulk taking up space since the packs have less cards in them to begin with.
Of course then you might think "But I paid the same for less cards?!"
And maybe you did. But at least what you got actually goes through quality control processes unlike seemingly everything over here at this point.
And the same thing actually does apply to speed duel. Their cards are much higher quality.
Synchro storm is good damn it, I fuckin love speed roids
I guess it's bad in a sense that packs and boxes are a waste of money to buy, but yes, making a bunch of archetype cores basically free is awesome.
Yo my grandma got me the shower kit because she thought I loved Yugioh enough to put it on my body
Proxy prints has to be the funniest troll ever.
As a follow up to my other comment, the other cards associated with Metalmorph were in other games as promos and not in regular sets. Although this could also apply to the magnet Warriors since Valkyrion was a promo for a different game and it was on a completely different game system roo.
World Duel Carnaval in NA was bad because it didn't have a Physical Release, and the NA version didn't have the Single Player mode at all. All you could do was play duels with bots with all cards available.
I still loved my duel disk. The fact that it had a switch so it came together and then turned to the side of your arm was awesome, and my nephews just see it as a weird axe.
Is this video just MBT crowdsourcing his christmas list?
I remember when I opened my last pack of Maximum Gold, I was 12 and I fucking hated that I got cards printed in German
4:02 just the fact that I actually recognized this editing as one of jontron's older videos
It really trips me out the way WotC went off the deep end.
Ancient Guardians got me back into yugioh tbh - but 100% right that those three archetypes just don’t work efficiently to keep up. They’re fun to play against each other more than anything
Funny enough I used to own the yugioh cleaning product back in the day they're foreshadowing most ychs duelist
I will defend the Yu-Gi-Oh Advent Calendars until I die, they're amazing and I will not accept anything otherwise
RIGHT !? My gf got me one for 2 years running and I loved them. They were fun and I still consider them to be max rarity for a lot of the cards contained.
absolutely same. was devastated we didnt get them in 2019
Though it's it terrible condition, I still have the Duel Disk I bought as a kid in 2004. One of the side broke off so it's literally bolted together and, thus, cannot switch forms. Still, nice bit of cosplay material and legacy pride.
4:09 counter point: it includes speedroid support which is great for the archetype and basically makes the deck playable and gives some great boss monsters, fuck the lyrilusc
My favorite part of synchro storm is on the night i bought my ghost crystal clear wing the dinner i had later cost more than the card itself
Okay beside the video, yooooo is that the Network theme from Starforce 2?
I got into yugioh during Hidden Arsenal 1 and it was a nightmare, it truly was the Ice Barrier of sets: a handful of decent and even good extra deck monsters that you could never pull for your deck that couldn’t make them anyway.
2:24 got like two of those packs from Dollar General like a year ago and pulled both Utopia and Leviathan as Starfoils
Surprised no one mentioned the yugioh soap.
Okay that Ruxin shade at the end was hilarious.
I had kinda had the Yugioh bathset. I know I used the millennium puzzle soap on a rope but I took it from my little brother since it was a gift for him and I was jealous that he got it and I didn't, because my grandma didn't think it was a girls thing. Plus he was barely old enough to play. I know it's 6+ but he played by Duelist Kingdom rules.
"McDonalds"
"These didn't have to be good. They were cool."
THANK YOU. That has what I've always said about the McDonalds cards.
This is just "sets I don't like".
So at the very least seems like a big W for Yu-Gi-Oh.
Nah, the bathroom set was ahead of its time.
(I remember getting it as a kid.)
I also remember getting a starter pack for the Dungeon Dice Monster spinoff game...
Rush Duel Battle Royale got updates, even as recent as April 2022, but those never came out outside of Japan
3:05 What about cards from one game where they needed cards from another game to actually play? Valkyrion the Magna Warrior came with new copies of Stairway to the Destined Duel while the three Magnet Warriors came from Duelist of the Roses. Also, Duelist of the Roses is the only Yugioh video game with a password system to get cards that doesn't use the codes printed on the cards. To make matters worse, the Magnet Warriors weren't even in the game! You couldn't even use the promo cards you just got in the game you got them from!
Loved the jontron reference at 4:00. I am glad to see you are even more cultured than I thought
Okay I know it's considered a sin but I'm gonna defend world duel carnival a little bit, just in that I do think it's better the modern legacy of the duelist games.
The multiple playable characters in the story mode which each had their own unique card trunk to create deck from made it fun to go through a campaign and see what decks you could build from the limited pool.
Still not as good a Tag or the later WCS but, for a $20 download far from the worst thing ever.
It's worth noting the Yugi decks did come woth a reprint of BLS, which I know because I didn't want to buy one for $10 and then I realized I had one on my shelf.
God that background music was super good, and i KNOW i've heard it somewhere before
I had an original Duel Disk circa 2003. I sold it in 2014 for NYCC loot money.
Hidden arsenal chapter 1 was ok, it had the first skill drain reprint after it being unlimited, shiny lava golem, and shiny alt art poly
Did no one bring up that weird metal hexagons board game?
Ogdoadics (i.e. reptiles in general) need an end boss, ursarctic is dead until decent 8+ tuners get made (preferably ones with GY floating in case they get dropped off), and solfachords are...kinda in the same place as a lot of pend decks: a lot of combo potential, but isn't allowed to slow down and can't deal with more than a single interruption (I know this is probably a bad idea for some reason, but I think the best option would be pendulum monster hand traps. maybe they add themselves from the hand to the ED face-up for the effect which would hilariously bypass called by. otherwise the only option would be to make them able to push through a full board break like nib, and I'd prefer the option that ISN'T worse than full power tear)
That Jontron joke nearly made me spit out my drink, HOLY
😂 this man really just used an old JonTron joke, you just became one of my favorite TH-camrs with that.
My locals has a box of assorted deodorant at the door that you can use for free
man i miss the world championship games
Dirt Dueler goes hard in the paint, and I will be designing a mold to make that soap, if it dosent exist
5:28, i got one of these years ago as a kid, still have the box somewhere lol
Legacy of the Duelist got me back into Yugioh after like 7 years so it's got that going
Comparing to MTG I think Yu-Gi-Oh has a pretty good product line, but I do disagree with how many secrets there are in a standard box compared to how many are worth pulling. But MTG having like 4 different booster boxes for each set is just mind numbing and no one wants to google card lists and differences to buy a box of cardboard.
Number 54 lion heart won me its fair share of duels ok. Its good
Anyone remember the other Yugioh pc games where you could only duel Yugi, Kaiba, or Joey based on the version? I remember those stinking. Thank goodness for the World Championship and Tag Force games.
Wonder if they knew about a marketing stunt in Yu-Gi-Oh that WASN'T from Konami, but BANDAI, with their first rendition of Yu-Gi-Oh
The Rendition that was more "Oh hey its a scene from Season 0, Everyone knows that! Buy these cards NOW!"
Worst thing is, they print the RULES of the game...IN THE GODDAMN CARDS.
Oh god, Yugioh online just came rushing back into my mind. I forgot entirely that I tried to play it.
Rush Duel never got updated outside of Japan? Maybe it's for the best. I know people joke about games looking like they're from the past when they have bad graphics, but this one literally looks like a PS2 game.
They had the scythe duel disk
Haunted mines was a banger for me.
I saw it first at a flea market, went to an ATM to get some cash, called my shot and told everyone there I would lose my mind if i hit a blue-eyes, and by god it hit a blue-eyes and LOST MY SHIT.
Amazing memory, 11/10 would pay the 5 dollar ATM fee to do it again.
Duelist of the Deep and Synchro Storm being on here is typical, considering i got a few packs of these
When i went to see the first movie the theater had a ton of left over packs and gave me and my friend 5 each
Rush duel did get updates tho.
But only in japan
We also got a modern rework of the original Duel Disk that was objectively worse by getting rid of the spring tab that holds the cards in the deck slot, making the graveyard smaller, and making the cover that went over top of it flatter and less detailed. Plus all of the tabs and hinges were loose. All for the low, low price of $100 on release before being heavily marked down.
EDIT: Say what you want about the movie exclusive pack, I still run Shining Dragon in my deck to this day and actually have used it a number of times to win.