Motherboard features are better on full ATX and ITX. Micro generally just has fewer options. A shame since micro can fit plenty of NVME in its footprint with all those lanes it can repurpose from lost PCIE slots...
I built the same desktop. This has been a joy to build in this case. My specs are: Ryzen 7600, 32GB 5600, Thermalright Phantom Spirit Cooler, 2TB Samsung 990Pro, TUF 7800XT OC, RM750e and for cooling I threw in 3x Antec Storm T3 fans. An absolute monstrosity for 1440p.
I would also recommend for anyone that is trying to step up the looks even more to add some custom GPU cables, will clean up the look of your build a ton!
I had the v1 version of this case for a long time. It worked for water cooling a GPU while air cooling a CPU. It definitely works for a small build but was very difficult to work in.
You are one of the few PC builders who actually install high tier fans (though anything similar or better than the Arctic P12/P14 is already good for this case) to address the Q300L's 'hotbox' issue. Most reviews for the Q300L rely on the pathetic single stock fan that came with the case, with shockingly predictable results.
Wow I decided to build a pc myself a week ago, after seeing another video on a similar build. Then I found this as I am about to get all the parts, and see that all the changes I’ve made to that build is similar to the build of yours. Stunning video as well!
I tried DDR4 and 5 with the 13600kf, most games you won't notice the difference, one game saw DDR5 get a clear win and a handful of games favoured DDR4. DDR4 has lower latency than DDR5 although it does perform better with some computing tasks such as 7zip. Should be using a replacement CPU mounting solution, especially in such a small case, it will lower CPU temps by 10+°C. No point buying a "k" if you don't overclock it, most 13600k's will do 5.5GHz with lowered voltage and massive temperature drops, it's crazy not to, again especially in a small case. Love that little case, and it's basically a solid build, looks good, solid performance, solid video.
What speeds did your ddr5 have compared to ddr4? I see ddr4 3600cl16-18-4000cl16-18(OC) demolishing ddr5 under 6200cl32 but as soon as ddr5 passes that in speeds is when it finally starts winning or being even, next gen should bring out higher 1:1 ddr5 speeds and we will finally see it surpassing ddr4 in performance on average and overall! (Hopefully)
This is a great mATX build, exactly what I am looking for having compared different parts on pc builder. Great explanation of the different parts fitting together and look forward to more content.
if you got an modular psu and case like that i would say - connect power connectors to the motherboard BEFORE you attach motherboard to the case then you can just move cables first via the holes and then attach the board :) no need of then using your raccon fingers to attach connector in tight space like that :D
I would encourage folks to just swing for 2TB+ if they can afford it (or save up if at all possible). Especially in a micro-atx build where getting to components can be a bit of a pain and "add-ins" are quite difficult if not impossible.. Games these days are 100GB+, so you will be able to fill a 1TB drive super quick.
@@williamelijah27 You certainly could do that. It is just one more thing hanging off of your micro-atx pc though. Also, USB4/TB4/TB5 traditionally has not kept up with PCIe/NVMe. So only a matter of time before your external ssd/enclosure begins to feel the speed pressure.
2:07 I can quite comfortably get around 5.7ghz with the 13600K so i think it is worth overclocking. Even if you're not going to OC you can still undervolt a bit to lower the tdp
Companies need to bring back Micro ATX. As far as I can remember, a lot of motherboards that came in prebuilts and what not are Micro ATX motherboards incased in either mATX cases or Mid Tower cases. With todays tech and everything being smaller (besides ITX) mATX should replace ATX just because it would save them some cost and fit all the bells and wistles appropiately.
Kinda big for an mATX case. Then again it's cheaper than many mATX case on the market so it's not bad. Plus, it's not putting the power supply at front. I do wish it had a bit more airflow to it then just holes. Otherwise great inexpensive case.
Especially with the smaller processor, I would have used an ATX 3.0 850 watt power supply. In the games you showed, you can see that the consumption is more like 400 watts, which is closer to the effective sweet spot of 50% utilization for an 850 watt power supply.
I have to thank you for this video and your channel. I pretty much copied the build you have here and am super satisfied with it. It's my first PC build ever after having bought various laptops and mini pc's to game on. But none of those actually matched the performance I wanted out of a gaming machine, so I decided to go all in. I feel great about the build because I more than likely won't have to worry about upgrades for a good while. I was thinking of switching CPU platforms to an AMD 7800X3D if I can find a buyer for the CPU/Mobo Combo. But if not, I still have a killer rig and it was a great experience following the video while building.
No it wont fit on the case, in fact nothing will since there isn’t any place to mount on it. But, it will fit in the case, if a 4090 can fit what do you think?
Im building this pc but slightly different parts. Same cpu 4070 Be quiet pure power 12 (650w) already have it thats why Same fans and mobo Kingston ram and ssd ( just like the brand)
Awesome video, planning on using this case but with an AMD build. Is the intake okay for the PSU? It seems quite clsoe to the floor. Also does spreading the thermal paste like that not lead to it overspilling?
I would have chosen a z690 or z790 chipset motherboard to unleash the full potencial of the cpu, as well as using at least a 240mm radiator to really disipate it's heat
Hey there, most of your Builds are solid. but on this one i don't get why pair a "K" CPU with a "B" MB. There is a 13600 available, so why spend money on an unlocked feature that you will most lokely never use?
Ha I just got this case a week ago, funny to see it in a video. I crammed three 140mm fans in there, two in front and one in the bottom. And two 120mm fans on top and another 120 in the exhaust. Also have two 120mm on the cpu cooler. And finally, crammed in a 6950xt as well as an HDD in that side panel with the cables. Cool case, I have it laying flat on its side on my desk.
If you're not gonna overclock and just run at stock speeds you might as well go for the non-K 13600 to save a little money, the performance difference between a non-K and K CPU is absolutely dismissable
Very awesome. I'm glad to see that the B760's can handle these beasts of cpu's in such a small build! Totally gonna upgrade my cpu later this year my 11700f is starting to bottleneck my 3080 in some games including Starfield. :(
I have a build that rivals this perfectly. :) Sliger Cerberus X (White) ASUS X670E Gene AMD Ryzen 7700x GSkill DDR5 6000Mhz RTX 4090 FE Silverstone 850R SFX PSU Noctua D12L
Есть такой корпус первой интерпретации, первое что я бы сделал сменил боковую панель на перфорированную, подумал как поставить водяное охлаждение 120 хотя бы на две секции, сузил пространство где hdd стоит тем самым сделал бы больше пространства в корпусе. Как корпус для Matx он мне больше всех нравится ничего лишнего просто ящик с перфорацией. Я больше предпочитаю теперь sff корпуса.
I'm struggling to understand, you connected all the cables to the motherboard, it was inside the case. Then you install the CPU cooler with the motherboard not in the case. I'm not following how you got the cooler and fans and cooler fan cables in the case and wired them through the back.. right now I have everything connected up to the motherboard, the motherboard is screwed in, and I don't have the CPU cooler installed yet. I just don't understand in what order you did it.. I know it's better for the video to install the CPU cooler outside the case, but for someone who is not making a video how do I do it?
Hello, what is the small window in the top of the screen which is showing the FPS, CPU Load, and more. You see it on minute 1:29 for example. I'm searching for so long for these software and could never figure out which one it is. Glad to here your feedback, many thanks and have a great day.
I have this case. Complete shit. Fans cannot blow it either from above or from the front, since the cells in the grid are too small and located far from each other. In fact, it does not blow at all, in any way.
I have the v1 of this case and the the thermals are actually terrible. Id be interested to see if this is any better because it looks as tho not one single thing has actually been changed or improved upon.
Depends on your needs truthfully. If you are planning to have a dedicated video card that’s plugged into pcie slots it’s best to have an ATX board to minimise blocking the gpu fans or as well on m-atx boards a 2.5-3 slot gpu will block the second pcie slot which would be for a dedicated video card If you are using an external visor capture device or just something like OBS nothing internal / external hardware wise m-atx is a good way for saving some money and maybe if you like smaller form factor cases. If you want to ask anything else or want more in depth answers to things ask away!
im looking for a matx case with a 140 rear fan and 2x140 or 280rad top and 2x140 or 280rad front... only could find the kolink mesh.. are there any more? also u forgot to mention when using a pcie m2 nvme drive ur gpu pcie lanes of the gpu will shrink...
micro atx is underrated. I always see people either building huge rigs in huge cases or the smallest thing possible mATX is just right imo
With no jacky tunning style. very discret its rare and don't add useless fan that you gone change.
they wanna sell rgb fans thats why big atx cases are around..
Motherboard features are better on full ATX and ITX. Micro generally just has fewer options.
A shame since micro can fit plenty of NVME in its footprint with all those lanes it can repurpose from lost PCIE slots...
This channel is just such a good channel for pc builders who prefer the simple and minimalist design over having a rig filled with rgb.
I'm really impressed with the space in this seemingly smaller case.
*This one video got me on the fence of downsizing to mATX vs ITX*
This video got me to build my first PC! Although I pretty much copied the build here, I'm super satisfied with mine.
But itx is smaller
Cooler Master NR200 is a great option for a first ITX build.
@@XxDaniel317xX they are not produced, 200p v2 only
mATX is way better than ITX because there are room of upgradability, you get 4 ram slot, more PCIe, more M.2, and a lot for just a little bigger size.
I built the same desktop. This has been a joy to build in this case. My specs are: Ryzen 7600, 32GB 5600, Thermalright Phantom Spirit Cooler, 2TB Samsung 990Pro, TUF 7800XT OC, RM750e and for cooling I threw in 3x Antec Storm T3 fans. An absolute monstrosity for 1440p.
What are temps while gaming
I would also recommend for anyone that is trying to step up the looks even more to add some custom GPU cables, will clean up the look of your build a ton!
lol
I had the v1 version of this case for a long time. It worked for water cooling a GPU while air cooling a CPU. It definitely works for a small build but was very difficult to work in.
This channel is criminally underrated, your content is great man! Keep it up and wish you to get the attention you deserve
but you are losing on fps if you dont have rgb
@@drakata27 bruh that myth is fake
@@arfa1599 hatem ben arfa🔥💯
@@arfa1599nah, it’s real, trust me
subbed just cause of ur comment, didint even watch the video yet.
You are one of the few PC builders who actually install high tier fans (though anything similar or better than the Arctic P12/P14 is already good for this case) to address the Q300L's 'hotbox' issue. Most reviews for the Q300L rely on the pathetic single stock fan that came with the case, with shockingly predictable results.
I'm so glad i'm actually able to find pc builds without rgb puke everywhere. thank you
Wow I decided to build a pc myself a week ago, after seeing another video on a similar build. Then I found this as I am about to get all the parts, and see that all the changes I’ve made to that build is similar to the build of yours. Stunning video as well!
Great vid. I like how you are featuring more affordable and accessible builds.
affordable and 4090 dont fit in the same sentence
Honestly, I can't remember in what state of mind I commented like that. I just wanted to post a comment for the guy. @@theforbiddentoystore1203
@@theforbiddentoystore1203for real lmao
I really simple builds like this. One recommendation i have is that instead of 32 gig you could get a 48 gb kit from corsair
I tried DDR4 and 5 with the 13600kf, most games you won't notice the difference, one game saw DDR5 get a clear win and a handful of games favoured DDR4. DDR4 has lower latency than DDR5 although it does perform better with some computing tasks such as 7zip. Should be using a replacement CPU mounting solution, especially in such a small case, it will lower CPU temps by 10+°C. No point buying a "k" if you don't overclock it, most 13600k's will do 5.5GHz with lowered voltage and massive temperature drops, it's crazy not to, again especially in a small case. Love that little case, and it's basically a solid build, looks good, solid performance, solid video.
What speeds did your ddr5 have compared to ddr4? I see ddr4 3600cl16-18-4000cl16-18(OC) demolishing ddr5 under 6200cl32 but as soon as ddr5 passes that in speeds is when it finally starts winning or being even, next gen should bring out higher 1:1 ddr5 speeds and we will finally see it surpassing ddr4 in performance on average and overall! (Hopefully)
What replacement CPU mount would you recommend?
For the memory, it's 5600 megatransfers, not megahertz. The actual clock speeds are half that.
This is a great mATX build, exactly what I am looking for having compared different parts on pc builder. Great explanation of the different parts fitting together and look forward to more content.
if you got an modular psu and case like that
i would say - connect power connectors to the motherboard BEFORE you attach motherboard to the case
then you can just move cables first via the holes and then attach the board :)
no need of then using your raccon fingers to attach connector in tight space like that :D
I would encourage folks to just swing for 2TB+ if they can afford it (or save up if at all possible). Especially in a micro-atx build where getting to components can be a bit of a pain and "add-ins" are quite difficult if not impossible.. Games these days are 100GB+, so you will be able to fill a 1TB drive super quick.
What about an external hd? Would that be a good solution?
@@williamelijah27 You certainly could do that. It is just one more thing hanging off of your micro-atx pc though.
Also, USB4/TB4/TB5 traditionally has not kept up with PCIe/NVMe. So only a matter of time before your external ssd/enclosure begins to feel the speed pressure.
It's not hard to upgrade mATX. My last build had 5 drives in it 3 of which were SATA.
I love your videos, visually they are very pleasing and you explain everything in a clear way... clear enough for me to pretend I understand 😅
I hope this revised version comes to India as well.
2:07 I can quite comfortably get around 5.7ghz with the 13600K so i think it is worth overclocking. Even if you're not going to OC you can still undervolt a bit to lower the tdp
Small powerhouse! I love this.
Companies need to bring back Micro ATX. As far as I can remember, a lot of motherboards that came in prebuilts and what not are Micro ATX motherboards incased in either mATX cases or Mid Tower cases. With todays tech and everything being smaller (besides ITX) mATX should replace ATX just because it would save them some cost and fit all the bells and wistles appropiately.
i would love how the thermals for it was, especially now some time has gone by
I am considering the AMD version of this build.
Kinda big for an mATX case. Then again it's cheaper than many mATX case on the market so it's not bad. Plus, it's not putting the power supply at front. I do wish it had a bit more airflow to it then just holes. Otherwise great inexpensive case.
Especially with the smaller processor, I would have used an ATX 3.0 850 watt power supply. In the games you showed, you can see that the consumption is more like 400 watts, which is closer to the effective sweet spot of 50% utilization for an 850 watt power supply.
I’m surprised that Cooler masters More Budgeted case can fit a 4090 that’s Just Wild man :00
I love Micro ATX, the ideal size.
The filming quality here is top notch. Nice clean build bro!
Good video, good build and I have to admit a pretty sweet case.
Thanks for sharing.
Bomb video, hope your channel grows exponentially bigger!
hey man you should do a more in-depth breakdown of building this pc i think that would be very enjoyable
nice. will be looking into this case when it becomes available in my neck of the woods.
Replacing LGA1700 stock contact frame with aftermarket one would be a nice upgrade for this build
Interesting to hear you say it has good airflow when every review I've seen describes this case as an oven.
Great video. Quality is excellent. Is this a case that I could throw in my carryon for travel or should I do it instead.
I returned mine in time after seeing how bad is the airflow with these small holes. DeepCool CH370 offer's a better airflow and has a similar size.
Nice build. You just informed me for the existence of the V2 of this case.
I have to thank you for this video and your channel. I pretty much copied the build you have here and am super satisfied with it. It's my first PC build ever after having bought various laptops and mini pc's to game on. But none of those actually matched the performance I wanted out of a gaming machine, so I decided to go all in. I feel great about the build because I more than likely won't have to worry about upgrades for a good while.
I was thinking of switching CPU platforms to an AMD 7800X3D if I can find a buyer for the CPU/Mobo Combo. But if not, I still have a killer rig and it was a great experience following the video while building.
Great video! I love this case... Is it possible to fit an ATX motherboard?
That case though 🔥. Wondering if sapphire nitro 7900xtx will fit on that case...
It will
No it wont fit on the case, in fact nothing will since there isn’t any place to mount on it. But, it will fit in the case, if a 4090 can fit what do you think?
Excellent production value as always!!
I found this channel first time, from video making slim Desktop PC to match with PS5 design 😅
great video man. you're gonna be successful on youtube for sure. i might actually copy your build eventually too, its so clean.
he just dont miss
He knows what he’s doing
Would loved to have seen it with an AIO at the front, great video though!
Dude, you rock, cheers from Argentina! Keep it up!
Great video! Just sad they dont fix airflow in the Q300L v2! Coolermaster, YOU HAD ONE JOB!
Just a question, shoudnt the HP plug for the graphic card had at least 3 PCIe conection in the PS side for a 4090?
Really well put together video. The 4090 is really pricey. Would the system perform well at 1440p using the 4070?
Yes
Why do you need fan hub if you used only two case fans? This motherboard have enough fan headers to connect them.
Im building this pc but slightly different parts.
Same cpu
4070
Be quiet pure power 12 (650w) already have it thats why
Same fans and mobo
Kingston ram and ssd ( just like the brand)
you motivated me to build again man, thank you
i use these devices alot so small difference/conveniences are easily noticeable
Woah! I have never visited this channel. This is some premo production! That build is amazing! Subscribed!
Such a good underrated channel.
Keep it up 👍
im gonna be using an rx 7900 xt 20gb with an i9 12900k with a 204mm water cooler do you think i'll need extra cables ?
Was thinking of getting the cooj z18 but considering the fact that this is 1/5th of the price im getting this case
What if we replace rtx4090 with rtx 3060 gpu in this build
Why do you chose CPU that can be overclock but not for the motherboard? Is there any reason for that?
Can you do a budget build in this pc case
Beautiful,. Compact, but an absolute beast.
$200 u can get nzxt H1 v1 which alr have psu 650w+aio 120+riser
How much is this brother? This is really good! Can you make a deeplearning rig and try to fit it in as small a case as possible?
Great video, love the build!
I prefer the DeepCool CH370.
Clean build ! Optimum 2 😉
Can you tell me what do you use for this blue background 0:58 ? Just a big piece of paper ? Thanks !
Awesome video, planning on using this case but with an AMD build. Is the intake okay for the PSU? It seems quite clsoe to the floor.
Also does spreading the thermal paste like that not lead to it overspilling?
I would have chosen a z690 or z790 chipset motherboard to unleash the full potencial of the cpu, as well as using at least a 240mm radiator to really disipate it's heat
Well, I don't really know what's going on with Starfield game. But I think run it at reasonable settings, it should make game run just nice
How do you get all these components ? Brands send you this stuff or you buy it for videos ? Thanks !
Hey there, most of your Builds are solid. but on this one i don't get why pair a "K" CPU with a "B" MB. There is a 13600 available, so why spend money on an unlocked feature that you will most lokely never use?
13600 isnt available in North America. I don't even know if it's available in Europe. there's a 13500 but it's different. closest to 13600 is 13600kf
Gread production quality
Awesome as always Devyn.
Ha I just got this case a week ago, funny to see it in a video. I crammed three 140mm fans in there, two in front and one in the bottom. And two 120mm fans on top and another 120 in the exhaust. Also have two 120mm on the cpu cooler. And finally, crammed in a 6950xt as well as an HDD in that side panel with the cables. Cool case, I have it laying flat on its side on my desk.
Finally an affordable case with USB-C front connector. Good job!
Montech air 903 base (;
love matx build because price is better than itx. i love mine cm nr400 =). nice vid
That case would be great if it could actually breathe, those holes are tiny and add the screen makes it even worse.
overall ,How much do this built cost ??
If you're not gonna overclock and just run at stock speeds you might as well go for the non-K 13600 to save a little money, the performance difference between a non-K and K CPU is absolutely dismissable
is the airflow in this case good? It doesn't look like it... it looks like the front panel is mostly solid.
Very awesome. I'm glad to see that the B760's can handle these beasts of cpu's in such a small build! Totally gonna upgrade my cpu later this year my 11700f is starting to bottleneck my 3080 in some games including Starfield. :(
Great video.. Which keyboard is that plz
What do you do will all of your pc builds after each upload?
I have a build that rivals this perfectly. :)
Sliger Cerberus X (White)
ASUS X670E Gene
AMD Ryzen 7700x
GSkill DDR5 6000Mhz
RTX 4090 FE
Silverstone 850R SFX PSU
Noctua D12L
Есть такой корпус первой интерпретации, первое что я бы сделал сменил боковую панель на перфорированную, подумал как поставить водяное охлаждение 120 хотя бы на две секции, сузил пространство где hdd стоит тем самым сделал бы больше пространства в корпусе. Как корпус для Matx он мне больше всех нравится ничего лишнего просто ящик с перфорацией. Я больше предпочитаю теперь sff корпуса.
how about the psu blcoking the gpu fans would it be an issue for very power hungry hot cards?
hi i havve deepcool assassin 4, do you think it will fit into this case? thx. love your build
I'm struggling to understand, you connected all the cables to the motherboard, it was inside the case. Then you install the CPU cooler with the motherboard not in the case. I'm not following how you got the cooler and fans and cooler fan cables in the case and wired them through the back.. right now I have everything connected up to the motherboard, the motherboard is screwed in, and I don't have the CPU cooler installed yet. I just don't understand in what order you did it.. I know it's better for the video to install the CPU cooler outside the case, but for someone who is not making a video how do I do it?
Hello, what is the small window in the top of the screen which is showing the FPS, CPU Load, and more. You see it on minute 1:29 for example. I'm searching for so long for these software and could never figure out which one it is. Glad to here your feedback, many thanks and have a great day.
MSI afterburner
Outstanding work 👍🏾💯
I have one question, what is the light bar that is placed behind you in the background? I have seen so many TH-camrs using something like this.
Great video, really interested in this new version of Q300L
How does the case perform in terms of noise level?
I have this case. Complete shit. Fans cannot blow it either from above or from the front, since the cells in the grid are too small and located far from each other. In fact, it does not blow at all, in any way.
had the q300l for my early matx build, honestly for the hardware you have used in your video, its a disgrace :D the airflow is really bad
I wish they have a tinted glass option for this.
I have the v1 of this case and the the thermals are actually terrible. Id be interested to see if this is any better because it looks as tho not one single thing has actually been changed or improved upon.
I KNOW that gpu is suffocating in there cuz my lil 3060 is choking in mine.
from technical persperctive the video value is next to zero, but my regards to the cameraman and video editor, that was done very well.
Is micro atx good for content creation and gaming both? And can I upgrade it with upgradeable components in the future…I appreciate replies
Depends on your needs truthfully. If you are planning to have a dedicated video card that’s plugged into pcie slots it’s best to have an ATX board to minimise blocking the gpu fans or as well on m-atx boards a 2.5-3 slot gpu will block the second pcie slot which would be for a dedicated video card
If you are using an external visor capture device or just something like OBS nothing internal / external hardware wise m-atx is a good way for saving some money and maybe if you like smaller form factor cases.
If you want to ask anything else or want more in depth answers to things ask away!
im looking for a matx case with a 140 rear fan and 2x140 or 280rad top and 2x140 or 280rad front... only could find the kolink mesh.. are there any more?
also u forgot to mention when using a pcie m2 nvme drive ur gpu pcie lanes of the gpu will shrink...
Medium is premium, not soo big like ATX or smaller like mini itx
Looks so much cooler than the rgb abominations a lot of people churn out